gameplay-help

[steady beacon]

Iirc all BB gun shells have splash 15, save Georgia (16) and Soyuz (14)

[inland shoal]

Akshually there's Sanshikidan

[steady beacon]

Oh right fuck, I forgot about that
I have no damn idea what the characteristics of that one are

[keen sable]

smh confetti before massa

[pastel ferry]

didnt work, weirdly only happens when i filter to BBs and then swipe 2 to three times.
After that i can go back, select a ship and swipe once and it stops working ( the swipe), or going back to the dock then is stuck at loading lol. Guess I will work around it somehow

[inland shoal]

It's just a shower of normal HE bullets

[icy mountain]

should i just craft these torps? they just wont drop from the techboxes

[forest palm]

it's really secret AA Gun tech

[keen sable]

normal HE bullets don't hit planes

[forest palm]

it's cheap, and simple, so sure

[inland shoal]

Well yeah normal HE bullets also don't travel in an arc, but you get the idea

[icy mountain]

okay then, guess ill craft like 3 or 4 of them

[icy mountain]

these torps are better equipped on a boss fleet right?

[undone plover]

They are better on auto for both fleets
Boss fleet generally needs better gear (until w15 at least)

[fluid brook]

Which is soyuz gun?

[steady beacon]

/wiki B-37 Triple 406mm

[odd root]

No wiki pages found.

[steady beacon]

Seriously... I hate these names

/wiki Triple 406mm MK-1

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(MK-1)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(Mk_6_Prototype)

Jun 18, 2024, 1:38 PM

[fluid brook]

[steady beacon]

Right, looking on the wiki itself, only CN and JP mention the B-37 bit...

[forest palm]

English Localization~

[rapid grail]

shut up @forest palm . i helped.

apologies for the rude comment, was tired

[sharp gyro]

What’s the difference between these two

[forest palm]

the bottom one is a shitty AA gun

[keen sable]

right is fuze aa

[sharp gyro]

Oh so that icon means you’re turning a dd gun into an aa gun?

[soft raft]

That logo is for fuze/long range AA which tries to be a quirky new AA gun type for backliners but they're too dogshit to be worth considering

[tame jungle]

well it's just a different equipment and that icon denotes it changing to the special timed fuze aa

[plain saffron]

that icon is to differentiate between normal and long range AA gun

it's not "turning" icon, it's actually part of the gear sprite

[keen sable]

there's a sprite that sets the fuze?

[plain saffron]

[dawn hamlet]

In OPSI, do you always empty the shop of all port?

[sage sluice]

If you can, some stuff is lower priority than others

[frigid linden]

I have both hood and Saratoga in the same fleet

[dawn hamlet]

Hmm like, I only have 500 purple tokens, there's some META mats I can buy, is it worth it?

[soft raft]

Ehhhh
Sure they're the enhancing mats for METAs but they're very low prio

[sage sluice]

I dont buy meta mats personally, seems like a waste, better off buying gold gear upgrades and prints

[sharp socket]

UR plan, SR plan and ordnance are more important

unless you got those already

[fresh tangle]

I dunno I’m liking bearn meta a lot for my mobbing fleet and she’s really only mlb so I wonder what she’ll do when she’s fully levelled skill wise etc

[dawn hamlet]

I bought those first yes, I've 500 purple tokens left but I'm wondering if I should save it for the next shop reset or buy the METAs mats

[tame jungle]

can you somewhat comfortably do showdowns?

[dawn hamlet]

showdowns?

[soft raft]

they dont transfer to the next monthly reset

the META Fights

[tame jungle]

the META bossfights yeah

[dawn hamlet]

oh no, I need two round against a lvl 12

[tame jungle]

if you can grind those i don't think you'll really need to buy the mats, unless you have ambitions to max a lot of META ships

[dawn hamlet]

Hmm since I only play one META ship for now I'm gonna save my purple token then, thanks everyone

another opsi question I'm starting to get enough basic mats but I lack SR design plans, how do I get more of those?

[tame jungle]

play game

(and don't spend on gear you don't need too early)

[soft raft]

grind grind grind opsi

[tame jungle]

outside of the shop materials and to an extent stronghold/arbiter rewards, getting materials is entirely dependent of rng

[dawn hamlet]

Alright thank you

[soft raft]

wait can Mitchita's chains affect backliners-
Just saw Soyuz fail to fire her barrage on Auto after BZ and Vanny did (I had to manually fire it)

[calm rose]

Isn't soyuz barrage on reload?

[soft raft]

*Salvo
the barrage went off but her salvo didnt go off for a good 2 secs

[calm rose]

I have not encountered it so I can't say

Does wichita chain even reaches backline

[soft raft]

it looks like it could sometimes

[inland shoal]

Then I think I'd go for Hood first

If it hits it should also block main fleet

I don't rly know how far it reaches exactly tho

[soft raft]

huh it happened again
but the chains didnt hit Soyuz and she fired on her own 2s later
And it only affected her first salvo

Then another round she didnt behave weirdly at all

wonky 🍝 code ig

[calm rose]

You using 3BB?

[soft raft]

yeah
Soyuz/BZ/Vanny

[hard mesa]

Didnt chain doesnt affect skill barrage? Soyuz barrage active when she finishes reloading

[calm rose]

Blaster meant salvo. Not barrage. The barrage went off

[calm rose]

Hmm maybe later I'll try that comp, been using 1BB2CV so I haven't encountered that

[hard mesa]

Could be Gun CD jam i guess? Does the gun circle full?

[soft raft]

yeah it was full
And it's on auto so there wasnt any other guns off of cooldown at the time

who'd want a +13 NJ gun first, BZ or Soyuz?

[graceful light]

well shit that's not good

[fresh tangle]

3*’d 12-1 and wondering if I should clear the rest or stay here for a bit and get the rest of my ships to 120/125? Then I plan on doing chessboard for IB tech

[keen sable]

125 is just overkill. now raise the ships you want

[meager gyro]

is this worth keeping? it look like its good

[keen sable]

it's inefficient to go around safing every map also

[soft raft]

Ehhhhhh not really

[hollow gust]

ofc its the same dude again

[fresh tangle]

What’s safing

[keen sable]

getting a map to safe

[plain saffron]

it won't hit BB/CV if that what you mean

[fresh tangle]

Ah wasnt gonna do that. Just wanted to know if I should clear out 12 and then go wide in terms of leveling other ships

[fresh tangle]

There’s some missions for leveling ships to 125 so I’ll do that then chill

[calm rose]

Oh, thanks for clarifying. @soft raft there you go

[soft raft]

ah
guess that was just 🍝 code fucking over Soyuz then

[plain saffron]

i reviewed my footage and nobody get blocked during the chains

[keen sable]

if you're going to farm it, you get it safe

[fresh tangle]

Yeah like 12-1 and 12-4 make sense for exp and coin farming respectively

[meager gyro]

anything thats worth crafting here?

[calm rose]

533 quint, barracuda, aichi b7a, FCR and anti torp

[forest palm]

FCR, and Torp Bulge are nice, but better left uncrafted till needed

[keen sable]

depends on what you have

[tame jungle]

Depends on what you have tbh

[tame jungle]

Given the significant amount of resources you need to catch up on, probably not worth investing in a lot of it

[keen sable]

you forgot to tap equipped

[keen sable]

btw a 9 gear depot prune much?

[meager gyro]

it was 7 before i opened the 2 boxes rn

[plain saffron]

sometimes i wonder

[calm rose]

In my defence this dude always say he has nth

[plain saffron]

i guess this is why

[meager gyro]

anyone worth retrofitting?

[forest palm]

Sandy, and Independence

[tame jungle]

Stop asking shit like that and start focussing on what nntktt told you to do

Get your base fleets in order before expanding out

[meager gyro]

he indirectly told me to fuck off yesterday

[tame jungle]

Yeah i wonder fucking why

[plain saffron]

so you decided to ignore everything he said and repeat your mistake again?

[calm rose]

He asked you to grind, not f off

[viscid swift]

frankly, when someone refuses to take and ignores advice this much

[meager gyro]

i just said that i cant limit break anything for now

[forest palm]

echoes of Salty Belfast

[soft raft]

[plain saffron]

then do the others

[meager gyro]

done all i could do

[plain saffron]

wait if you can't LB any one why are you asking WHO TO RETROFIT

[tame jungle]

Bro is lost

[plain saffron]

RETROFIT NEED BULINS

[left cedar]

salty get through W10 to W14 with GPH right ?

[meager gyro]

wait really?

[keen sable]

so they can limit break obviously

[soft raft]

either that or a dupe yee
but bullin is more convient

[crisp wadi]

Does rondo rerun get free tickets?

[keen sable]

you can't retrofit a ship that isn't limit broken in the first place

[meager gyro]

fr?

[soft raft]

most likely yes
At this point the new rerun system has become the new standard rerun system

We've only gone back to the old system for collab reruns

[crisp vine]

Ok, so im bored, back to washington (my Mother server) or start game in new server?

[calm rose]

Continue

[crisp wadi]

touch grass

[meager gyro]

my fdg is dev 27 rn, how many more prints to do i need?

[soft raft]

/devbp

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460648604974055424/885529968455598170/unknown.png

[crisp vine]

Nah i eat them all

[keen sable]

91-120

[tame jungle]

You can also click convert blueprints for an exact counter but Do Not Use Your General Prints For Friedrich

[meager gyro]

its 120

[meager gyro]

dont got any anyway

[crisp wadi]

Also is there any Ships that must build in rondo pool? Or its just for collection

[soft raft]

that's including FS5
91 is for D30

[finite crag]

how many books does it take to get a ship from 1 to 120

[tame jungle]

Nothing that noteworthy in the grand scheme of things

[soft raft]

Emden is the only one that really has any noteworthy use
but she's just a DPS CL without a AA gun so that kinda limits her uses later on

[crisp vine]

Start new Thread or continue in Old?

[crisp wadi]

I'll wait for vanny rerun then, ty for the info

[tame jungle]

3235675 and divide that by 3000

[soft raft]

And in terms of lvl 120 fleet tech:
Yorck, Emden, Elbing, and Thuringen are FP tech
Seydlitz and Lutzow are EVA tech

[finite crag]

thanks

[meager gyro]

what do i buy here next? got 4 white shells, 3 black and independence

[tame jungle]

(At least i think the packs are 3000 but don’t quote me on that)

[soft raft]

yeah you dont need to hard pull on this event
but at most use a free ticket as your daily pull

[soft raft]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[stone sluice]

Support fleet for w15 better to be lvl 125 or is 120 enough?

[soft raft]

better to be 125 if possible
iirc lvl advantadge/disadvantadge still affects the support fleet

[meager gyro]

whats timing adjustement?

[tame jungle]

Don’t worry about that for now

You will not need it

[meager gyro]

ok then it seems like only the rainbow torp makes sense

[tame jungle]

Don’t do that yet

[calm rose]

I don't think you needa care about that for now, but it's for timing purposes. Like to sync your backline to Helena debuff

[soft raft]

lmao no

[tame jungle]

Very expensive

[meager gyro]

ok then nothing makes sense to me

[tame jungle]

it's fine to save your core data

[calm rose]

You know you can save your core data right.

[unkempt mirage]

isnt this missing the gold wyvern

[soft raft]

prob hasnt been updated yet

[unkempt mirage]

i feel thats a pretty good buy

[viscid swift]

it's pretty low priority

[slender heart]

Gold wyvern? Breguet?

[tame jungle]

he can already do some operation siren so eventually he'll get wyverns

[keen sable]

I hope so considering they hadn't bought anything for 5 years but

[eager mulch]

[left gull]

So I'm in ch11 alr and about to clear it. What do i do now? Like what should be the focus at that point? And is there a point to pushing chapters?

[viscid swift]

push to W12

[tame jungle]

push to W12 and you can chill there for a while to farm

[left gull]

Alr, so 12-1 is better than 11-1?

[viscid swift]

yes

[tame jungle]

yes, and 12-4 even better for coins

[whole crypt]

11-1 is highest XP/oil in the game but you'll soon find that's not a very useful metric

[fluid brook]

Not alot of gold

[left gull]

Yeah i think i saw that somewhere as well. Why is it not that useful?

[silver lintel]

Is 15-4 best gold/oil?

[acoustic granite]

Any tips for w14? Is it still the airplane nightmare 13 was?

[whole crypt]

ch12 is still better XP/fight while offering more coins
relatively speaking it's also easier to carry low level ships for leveling than ch11
ch12 onwards will drop chips, ch11 doesn't

and you're still looking at better XP/oil rates than ch9 and 10 at that point

[viscid swift]

Stagger(don't have everyone launch/attack at the same time) your main fleet in both the mob and boss fleet to ensure smoother clears and fewer chances of your ships getting nuked by enemy BBs.

Run ASW gear in the mob fleet, at minimum you want the hedgehog on one of your vanguard and an ASW Plane on Unicorn(also run Unicorn in the mob fleet).

Use 155 Kais on your BBs, these are needed to kill the super beefy Kagero ramming ships.

Don't pick up flares, they scuff the targeting of your BBs so they pretty much make things worse.

A sub fleet is not mandatory but a good sub fleet can do a lot of carrying especially if your surface fleets are a bit deficient.

Do not run rocket planes(Bf-109Gs, HVARs, Skyraider), concealment mechanics in W14 scuff the targeting of their rockets and many high threat enemies in W14 are heavy armor for which they are suboptimal at dealing with.

The 14-4 boss is essentially just one long mob fight so bear that in mind when building your fleet, i.e. someone like Helena is suboptimal.

All your ships should be level 120 at minimum for W14 and gear at least +10.

[acoustic granite]

Any specific ships I could use? I have almost everything (all URs and most of the research ones too)

...unintended flex

[calm rose]

You can make a thread, with screenshot of your dock

Filtered to vanguard/main fleet

[viscid swift]

and just URs and SRs

[acoustic granite]

Ok, gimme a moment pls

[silver lintel]

So which stage is best gold/oil if not 15-4

[acoustic granite]

W14 Fleet Help

[viscid swift]

13-4 still

[whole crypt]

wasn't 14-4 like a sliver better, but just takes way longer and is much harder

[fresh tangle]

49 points for EU tech for anchorage woooo 😂 spoiled for choice here

[viscid swift]

something like that yes

[sweet delta]

#1252565641882370069 message @viscid swift

[polar venture]

What stage to grind for t3 cruiser bp's?

[soft raft]

any X-2 stage starting from W3

[whole crypt]

yeh this is going to need Helena...

[orchid tulip]

fleet1 is boss', this is for 14-4 farming. How can I improve it? any swap for volga?

[undone plover]

no BB in mob = dead

[viscid swift]

using a battleship in the mob fleet for a start in the mob fleet

[orchid tulip]

I've already 3starred the map with that mob fleet, they are great

[viscid swift]

you're manualing aren't you

[orchid tulip]

yea, what's the point of auto if you have to reset sometimes anyways, I just want to farm until I get new orleans

[viscid swift]

well a good fleet doesn't need resets farming on safe

[calm rose]

A solid fleet doesn't need restarts

[soft raft]

you shouldnt need to restart on safe either

[orchid tulip]

I'm still on lethal

[soft raft]

[whole crypt]

then get it down to safe

[drowsy finch]

if its working for you now, just get it to safe, then try building an auto fleet

[orchid tulip]

I want to improve the boss fleet.. but you focused on my poor shinano flag..

[whole crypt]

what's wrong with the boss fleet

[viscid swift]

the boss fleet apart from Emden instead of another CB or Anchorage is perfectly fine

[soft raft]

kinda hard not to when W14 is known for its ramming boats
And a lack of suicide boat interception is just asking to be shit on

[viscid swift]

not having any BB for interception in the mob fleet is a far bigger issue

[whole crypt]

I mean for a start you're doing this on manual, we already don't know what's causing you trouble for the fight

[orchid tulip]

the vanguard takes a lot of dmg and I don't quite understand the concealment mechanic of the boss

[whole crypt]

hit it until concealment breaks

there's no rocket science behind it

[orchid tulip]

does burning/flooding it help? that's why I'm asking for a possible volga replacement

[ebon verge]

who is the best AA vanguard currently?

[whole crypt]

probably between Guam and aug Sandy

[viscid swift]

does it actually sink though?

[orchid tulip]

sometimes, and I have to reset it for the S

[whole crypt]

just let it A until you get it to safe then not worth the effort

[ebon verge]

is sandy better in raw dps to planes?

[viscid swift]

for the boss you mean?

[orchid tulip]

how is it not worth 6 of oil for a N.O. chance? please

[viscid swift]

what gear are you running
and drop Emden for Anchorage

[whole crypt]

I got Bunker Hill on an A clear on my first clear of 13-4, just saying it's not a 100% no drop if you A

[orchid tulip]

yeah, I'm going to swap Emden for another CA/CB

[orchid tulip]

oh ok thx

[whole crypt]

my guess is Guam's double mounts still adds more self AA damage to the circle but I'm not going to bother mathing it up
what do you even intend to do

[ebon verge]

im just trying to cut out a carrier for 13-4 auto (mob fleet)

[viscid swift]

why

[ebon verge]

exp farming

[soft raft]

the fuck

[viscid swift]

I see

[whole crypt]

just don't XP on 13-4?

[ebon verge]

well i need money too

[zinc turret]

did it keep spawning +1 even if i havnt done that 2 stronghold ?

[eager mulch]

12-4 gives money

[whole crypt]

just grind 12-4 or 13-1 some more

[viscid swift]

unless you're farming for Bunker Hill I wouldn't bother with 13-4, just run 12-4

[sweet delta]

I wouldn't bother with using a maxed vanguard ship for wasting exp

[whole crypt]

map can show up to 3
excess is "stored" until you clear existing ones and spawn when you reload OS

[loud rover]

Do the cruise mission skip tickets work on the SP missions? Too impatient to wait 4 more days for my mlb Nano

[zinc turret]

i see thanks

[whole crypt]

why waste gems

[loud rover]

Because mlb Nano

[whole crypt]

4 more days is really nothing for the course of the game

[ebon verge]

13-4 gives significantly more coin tho

[whole crypt]

just cut down your spending or something, or give up on XP

[loud rover]

Not even spending I’m waiting on anni to reset the double gems

[whole crypt]

I mean Akari's coins

[ebon verge]

it's worth a shot anyway imma just do a test run

[viscid swift]

just remember you'll have 2 out of ammo fights

[whole crypt]

I mean our opinion is it's not efficient to bother, but you do you I guess

[viscid swift]

and if your fleet isn't very built 3 star CV fleets will just eat it alive

[whole crypt]

I honestly think if consistent 12-4 grinding isn't enough coins checking expenditures first is just far easier

[ebon verge]

only encountered 1 red cv enemy (out of ammo) but i guess it should be stable

[inland shoal]

Okay but you're using very strong ships and 2 125s

[whole crypt]

again, no idea what you're spending on, but might be easier to cut costs to keep up XP efficiency

unless you're chipcapped then whatever

[ebon verge]

more like the opposite, i have tons of chips and no money

[whole crypt]

unless you're awakening a lot of URs there's no reason to be out of coins before you're done leveling

[zinc turret]

maybe research

[fickle scarab]

Maybe just not farming enough

[whole crypt]

shrug, if they're ok skipping on XP then whatever
XP efficiency does stop becoming a thing when you become chipcapped anyway

[inner delta]

did you do 457

[ebon verge]

yes im spamming D research hinden

[eternal basalt]

@viscid swift The new event is a SP event, not a raid

[viscid swift]

yes I saw

I'll take the L on that one

better though, means more cognitive chips

[meager gyro]

can you craft gold bulin?

[remote yarrow]

wdym craft?

You can buy some from Merit and Medal shop but craft no

[tame jungle]

Given that they’re shipgirls too technically, i wonder how that would work

[eternal basalt]

Buy, earn

[whole crypt]

Wichita is light though

[inner delta]

yes, that's a question

there's a reason why i ask

lol

[meager gyro]

like with loot boxes

[calm rose]

you cannot turn a purple bulin into gold bulin if thats what you're asking

[meager gyro]

or skill books (which i found out today)

[whole crypt]

was using Mk7, will probably lose quite a lot of shelling damage with 457

[inner delta]

cuz if you want helena, 457 seems to be such a perfect timing

[eternal basalt]

Loot boxes give loot, cubes give girls

[sweet delta]

That's a 3 strike so Helena doesn't radar right?

[solid quail]

Any ways to improve my fleet 2 (boss fleet) for 13-4 hard? Had to rely on mob fleet 1 to finish the boss

[whole crypt]

yeh Helena doesn't need to radar, it's on 20s

[sweet delta]

There's no way to fit skyraider on a 4 strike reasonably without enterprise

[meager gyro]

oh ok

[sweet delta]

Switch Guam and brest, and replace rear with a CV

Or switch kear and soyuz

If mob is overkill then also switch sandy and Scylla for good measure

[solid quail]

mob was just nice. Sometimes whole vanguard survives sometimes only one left standing (after finishing off almost all ships in map)

[sweet delta]

I have received evidence that the BB vanguard just dies. So brest will need to be replaced by anchorage, and that loses Alsace perma debuff

[solid quail]

How is brest used in the first place? Heard she is the best tank but smh when in boss fleet she kinda melts halfway through

setup for 13-4 hard atm

[eternal basalt]

She is not the best CB, she can heal herself though

[meager gyro]

merit aint happening bc i got told to not do pvp anymore

[cobalt rapids]

13-4 hm boss isnt meant to last

[calm rose]

you get points even after losing, just do pvp

[remote yarrow]

Who even told you that

[eternal basalt]

Nobody

[meager gyro]

#pvp message

[remote yarrow]

The voices

[whole crypt]

give up on (winning) PvP for now

[loud rover]

You can fight super weak opponents, you even have some free refreshes

[whole crypt]

you can totally still fight, lose and still get XP + merits

[strong tartan]

you still get rewards even if you lose

[whole crypt]

that channel mostly is on PvP meta and winning PvP, but from a gameplay stand point you can do all the PvP you want even if just lose everything

[solid quail]

Am I equipping the right gear for her to trigger self heal in the vanguard position?

[eternal basalt]

I mean, do you need the heal in boss fleet

[solid quail]

In general yes since I will use her in opsi as well

[whole crypt]

as usual, you're asking the wrong questions, in the wrong places, with the wrong goals

[keen sable]

Healing on ops boss is asking to die horribly

[eternal basalt]

"The 1st time this barrage fires every battle: restores 3.5% (8%) max HP to the ship with the lowest percentage HP left in your fleet; the 2nd time this barrage fires: restores 1.5% (6%) of this ship's max HP."

[solid quail]

well I only have agir & anchorage as my tanks for opsi so yea idk who else can be a tank. Can laffey 2 (heard its meh) and guam (idk if she is even a tank or not) fir that role?

[keen sable]

1. Are you going around killing extra mobs for no reason?
2. A 0/low ammo mob winning instead of boss means you have serious issues

[whole crypt]

probably start thread to get whole fleet checked, there's not much reason for Brest to not hold up for 13-4H

[keen sable]

Guam is a tank. She's tanking your mob fleet...

[whole crypt]

could be gear issue across whole fleet and not Brest herself

[wispy pendant]

Does Kearsarge have a place on a fleet without york2 in the meta, or not really compared to other comps?

[summer pecan]

What are the rp3 torps on the spearfish?

[inland shoal]

Depends but Kear is stronk

[summer pecan]

Also does it make them the best tb in the game?

[solid quail]

1. For the achievement and quickly getting that 3 star clear, yes.
2. No. Made sure mob fleet has ammo before fighting boss

[inland shoal]

They are rockets
And yesn't

[summer pecan]

That is quite weird as I never see their animations

[meager gyro]

who do i start after odin?

[keen sable]

Killing extra mobs on h is a waste

[whole crypt]

I will repeat one last time: don't bother with research for now

[summer pecan]

In what situation are they better over Wyverns?

[wispy pendant]

i'm not sure anymore, I don't use her anywhere

[keen sable]

If you want X enemies just Nemo in and out without wasting an attempt

[wispy pendant]

kinda sad, I Thought she was supposed to be gamebreakingly good, and turns out she's just pretty good.

[solid quail]

what strategy is this?

[remote yarrow]

Are you even in W12 yet? If not don't worry about research tbh, but give this a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research
In any case FdG > Anchorage > Agir > rest of PR4, for now

[inland shoal]

Enter
Kill mobs
Leave

[eternal basalt]

Enter kill boss Get 3rd star for FREE

[strong tartan]

what armor type is purifier? she's my guild boss this time

[keen sable]

That's ALL enemies

[whole crypt]

he has them
he needs to stop wasting time on research

[strong tartan]

guys am I missing some vital information

[inland shoal]

What is your guild cooking?

[strong tartan]

no idea but it's purifier

[remote yarrow]

Oh

[hard mesa]

Heavy iirc

[meager gyro]

seems like rupprecht is next

[whole crypt]

compiler is heavy, can't remember puri

[inland shoal]

Well purifier means lower difficulty and less rewards
No clue about the armour tbh

[meager gyro]

still stuck at 11-3

[strong tartan]

strange but thank you

[remote yarrow]

Get to W12

[solid quail]

so you mean enter stage, kill everything except boss, retreat, enter again (does it consume attempts?), repeat this till you get X ships destroyed?

[hard mesa]

Shes a bb should be heavy

[inland shoal]

Cuz no one wants less rewards so everyone does Compiler

[whole crypt]

regular advice does not work for this guy, just forget it

[meager gyro]

how?

[strong tartan]

see

[tame jungle]

Play game and stop wasting resourcrs

[inland shoal]

Yes and it doesn't
Don't need to kill all enemies either, just however many you need for 2nd star

[ripe bluff]

chat how do you build malin

[eternal basalt]

Light build

[remote yarrow]

Last time we had this similar case, some helpers got screamed at for telling "don't help this guy he's helpless"

[eternal basalt]

Similar case = same guy

[calm rose]

dont spam light build for her though

[remote yarrow]

Nah, I'm talking a long time ago, the laffey's pillow guy

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Le_Malin medal

[solid quail]

Oh nice. Might try this "Hit and run" strategy tmr. Thanks

[tame jungle]

i thought he meant equipment not actually building LOL

[whole crypt]

if equipment just go check equipment guide or something, Le Malin doesn't use anything special

[tame jungle]

tbh just mogador gun quadmags some aa accelerator and double kit will be fine

[wispy pendant]

Do you want help, are you taking it, is it helpful? Because in this relationship, it would be good to get some thanks from you and some signs you're taking advice. Like are you further than when you first asked, and had it helped a little at least?

[remote yarrow]

By pushing? And if you can't push we can help but idk if you will take our advice with fleet helping, you seem really stubborn

[meager gyro]

my ships die

[whole crypt]

attention span and patience issue

[remote yarrow]

Well that might be a fleet or gear issue

[mellow hornet]

Is Harbin or anchorage worth it?

[keen sable]

my 0lb odin dies when i try to push and farm ruppy at the same time

[meager gyro]

im not finished with odin yet

[remote yarrow]

And don't come with the "I have bad luck with gear" cuz there's perfectly commonly available transitional gear for T3~T4 boxes

[mellow hornet]

I can fully max out anchorage already but idk if it's worth my time

[meager gyro]

both i guess

[whole crypt]

1. your ships die because your gear is shit
2. your ships die because you make shit choices for ships to PR grind
3. your lack of gear will not be solved for weeks

[strong tartan]

both are worth it but if this is a question abt who you should pick first I'd go for anchorage

[remote yarrow]

Anchorage will always be worth rising

[wispy pendant]

don't work on PR dockyard development if you're not in w12 yet

[mellow hornet]

What about pr6, I have not even started on that

[keen sable]

Everything ever has been scrapped except for a zero and helldiver

[inland shoal]

Anchor is one of the top prios

[whole crypt]

don't work on PR if it needs you to compromise your setup

you can do it from ch6 if you wanted to, but you cannot be choosing a bad setup just for the sake of getting PR XP

[tame jungle]

PR4 had coinup right

[whole crypt]

PR4 yes DR4 no

[remote yarrow]

Yes, but only for PRs

[atomic abyss]

golds yes, rainbows no

[tame jungle]

yep got it i forgor, thanks

[wispy pendant]

I think the compromises taken to grind PR are better taken by someone who understands what the compromises entail and doesn't just complain about dying, having bad luck, and no gear.

[keen sable]

Anchorage is very meta. Harbin not so much. Maybe pvp or ops

[whole crypt]

if you're dying it's not worth the compromise

[mellow hornet]

What or 6 ship should I focus

[whole crypt]

Harbin is great DPS for OS mobbing

[meager gyro]

is this good?

[atomic abyss]

if anything, shimanto is the prio for pr6
but probably shd only work on that after finishing pr4 and at least plymouth in pr5

[keen sable]

Gold quint

[whole crypt]

not great but better than the last few times you tried to show us your ship gear

[atomic abyss]

much better

[meager gyro]

?

[atomic abyss]

this one is actually semi decent

[keen sable]

Gold quint torp in craft

[meager gyro]

the what now?

[remote yarrow]

Look, people are here to help but it's up to you to take that advice, but if you don't then don't come and say I can't beat X cuz this or that happens.
Anyways with that said, if you actually want help with your fleets, drop your dock in a thread sorted by level and leave out rare and commons

[strong tartan]

the gold version of the torp you have

[keen sable]

+10 purple quint is never decent...

[whole crypt]

he doesn't need to post any more shit
he needs to just level shit people have told him to level before and wait for gear to show up from daily raid and regular grinding

dude spent 4 years not doing daily raids, he has no gear to pick from

[keen sable]

You posted it earlier and now you forgot?

[whole crypt]

gold version of this torp

or something like that

[meager gyro]

i have this one

[keen sable]

See this. They have a total depot of 7

[atomic abyss]

i mean, if he lacks any gold torp, the above is the best he's gonna have

[meager gyro]

10 now

[wispy pendant]

who is the rest in your vanguard? I don't think any of us would've recommended taking the z fleet past lvl 120

[keen sable]

They have one in craft. Just don't want to remember it

[atomic abyss]

[meager gyro]

got told to not craft anything earlier

[tame jungle]

does 3+2 have way worse spread than the USS 5s?

[low juniper]

Which of these are a better option for Mogador's AA?

[wispy pendant]

Eh... you can use transitional torps before you have all quad mags... but crafting anything requires opsi, are you farming opsi?

[meager gyro]

z23, helena, ägir, roon, z1, san francisco

[meager gyro]

i do but then i get told im not supposed to play opis

[atomic abyss]

[wispy pendant]

why Z1? The only reason to use Z1 is for the other Z's, you are only using z23, not even z46. Don't think you should've worked on z1 tbh

[atomic abyss]

no, what people did tell you was not to rush abyssals, strongholds and arbiters

[remote yarrow]

Idk where these "don't do OpSi", "don't craft" come from

[wispy pendant]

z fleet is huge meme

[whole crypt]

"don't do abyssals and strongholds until you're ready" is not "don't do OS"

[atomic abyss]

that's far from the issue here...

[meager gyro]

i finished z1 a looong time ago and people told me to not use z46 (something something not worth the ressoureces)

[whole crypt]

this exists in your craft menu, it's a direct upgrade of the torp Z1 has now, though it's probably not key

[wispy pendant]

Otto and Felix count as Z ships, but pretty sure even if you were running pure Z destroyers, it's better to leave Z1 at home compared to the others

[atomic abyss]

usui, not relevant here

[wispy pendant]

you used cog arrays on Z1, that wasn't a good use of arrays

[remote yarrow]

Why are you still talking about Z ships

[wispy pendant]

because he has Z1 at lvl 122

[atomic abyss]

usui, you're just confusing him further

[whole crypt]

did anyone tell you to not craft this as well

[atomic abyss]

z1 is not inherently a bad ship

[zinc turret]

i been play this game for arround a month and im strong enough to clear c4 & c5 abyss , its not that hard tbh , all u need is rest to repair and remove the debuff , i see no reason to not doing abyss

[meager gyro]

found the screenshot

[atomic abyss]

he's already raised it, might as well use it

[eager mulch]

nothing he can do about it now

can’t uncog your ships

[meager gyro]

yeah, someone told me to not craft anything earlier

[wispy pendant]

well hopefully he's not putting Z1 on the tank or off tank position

[whole crypt]

I already told you which ships you should level
you just chose to pick your own ships because you insisted on doing Felix

[meager gyro]

what is cog arrays?

[tame jungle]

uncap material for post lv120

[whole crypt]

none of those are even his biggest problem now

[meager gyro]

i leveled those ships, just cant continue bc i cant limit break

[tame jungle]

then you have to be patient

you are so resource limited right now that spending more resources just digs you into a deeper hole

[wispy pendant]

arrays are a limited resource for taking ships from lvl 120 to lvl 125, and should be prioritized on your back line damage ships and maybe your tank.

[atomic abyss]

what they said was not to craft anything blindly

you were trying to craft random stuff in gear lab for example

[keen sable]

Here we go

[topaz smelt]

Just toss him in a thread again

[tame jungle]

banish this guy to the thread

[meager gyro]

not again

[atomic abyss]

that should be our reaction

[whole crypt]

you understand you've been placed in threads with instructions to fix 4 years of damage right? and that it's not going to be a quick fix?

[meager gyro]

what does any of this even do?

[atomic abyss]

it's still better than starting anew at least

[whole crypt]

none of that is of use to you for now

[topaz smelt]

just tell him to start new so he comes back in 2 months for the same shit again

[zinc turret]

Is it worth to buy ?

[meager gyro]

keep or scrap?

[remote yarrow]

With medals? Yes

[atomic abyss]

extremely worth
it doesn't count to the monthly cap

[whole crypt]

if you need UR bulins just buy up all 1000 every month until you have excess

[wispy pendant]

if you need to catch up on UR and ur reruns, sure

[inland shoal]

If you can spare the medals and need burins

[viscid swift]

I'm gonna be blunt, if you're not gonna listen to any of the advice we give you it is better for you to not ask in the first place and save everyone's breaths

[zinc turret]

i see thanks

[low juniper]

?

[zinc turret]

i need 2 more burin to mlb my mogador

[wispy pendant]

do you not have more than a couple of tech boxes to open?

[meager gyro]

no, i could open some grey and blues if you want

[atomic abyss]

the aa guns you have on port or laffey are fine
her aa is shit anyways

[remote yarrow]

Quad bofors or 90mm, would say the latter

[whole crypt]

usui if you don't understand the state his account is in please just don't add to the confusion

[keen sable]

Craft up if you need gear but it's a waste of time when you are on 11-3

[wispy pendant]

use these for now

[meager gyro]

11-2*

[low juniper]

Got it

[wispy pendant]

Okay, I'm totally willing to not respond to him and let you guys have him 😄

[keen sable]

Same thing

[ivory crown]

i was told to turn pr1 and pr2 blueprints into prototype cores? how do i do that

[tame jungle]

depot, click item, click convert

[soft raft]

Depot -> click on it -> analyze

[remote yarrow]

Keep in mind the ship needs to be Dev 30 for you to convert the extra blueprints

[ivory crown]

oh never mind lmao

[meager gyro]

ok so do you guys wanna do another thread or?

[tame jungle]

want to? no

[meager gyro]

ok

[ivory crown]

so i should level my ships daily for free little by little until theyre maxed and burn their blue prints for prototype shop?

[remote yarrow]

I think ppl already told you what to do in past ones

[tame jungle]

honestly just by going into the previous threads you can compile all advice we gave you probably

[keen sable]

did sam fail?

[remote yarrow]

Just stop trying to do 20 things at the same time and focus on the ones ppl told you to do

[keen sable]

Discount coins isn't terrible but prioritize. Like I would pay 200k personally for a rainbow gear

[zinc turret]

if u do free it will take ages .... do development u could afford like by spending 1200 coins per day it make ur development almost 4x faster

[tame jungle]

personally i aim for 10 prints per day (cutoff for the second to last discount) since it won't require you to break the bank for it, 10k daily and you're good

[remote yarrow]

Are you in W12 yet? Cuz if you aren't I wouldn't bother about focusing research, since it takes quite a few coins to keep a constant uptime and daily coining, just consider it as a side thing for now

[ivory crown]

im almost done with it im on 12-4 rn

[wispy pendant]

nice

[remote yarrow]

If you are, buy 10 BPs daily for PRs which is 3k and 10 for DRs which is 7200

[ivory crown]

uh where do i buy em

and yea im overflwoing in coins so i need an outlet lol

[keen sable]

Shipyard

[ivory crown]

oh you mean like leveling the ships?

[tame jungle]

not leveling, developing

[zinc turret]

yeah

[remote yarrow]

This menu

[tame jungle]

developing is done with blueprints usually, but PR1-4 and DR2-3 can be bought with coins

[keen sable]

Lab > shipyard

[remote yarrow]

It appears after you spend the blueprints you got btw if you can't find it and if the ship is coinable to start with

[zinc turret]

U will unlocked it after u develop the ship and done the development mission

[ivory crown]

what ships are not coinable

[tame jungle]

this

but the inverse of course

[meager gyro]

how tf do you have so much gold

[ivory crown]

how do i get more of these, like the top and bottom

[soft raft]

Haku, Agir, PR5, and PR6

[zinc turret]

opsi

[tame jungle]

by playing operation siren mode

[remote yarrow]

Forgot Haku

[ivory crown]

from just clearing stages or do they have to be specific stages

cuz im seeing a lot of "materials" but not these

[zinc turret]

abyss zone will be good place

[soft raft]

There's no real specific stages

[tame jungle]

you got a shop and you get a bunch of those by clearing zones

[zinc turret]

and shop

[remote yarrow]

To know if a ship is coinable they have this icon next to them

That one was really small mb

[keen sable]

That the rare stuff. Try hard stuff and shops

[fervent hearth]

Comrades may I see what you guys used for full lethal 15 - 4 clear fleet wise?

[undone plover]

I think there is an example in the guide do /w15 in #bot-spam

[fresh tangle]

Prototype Saiun Kai yay or nay?

[soft raft]

mainly only for timing adjustment purpoeses

[tame jungle]

Use for timing

[fresh tangle]

Cool will hold onto it for now

[ivory crown]

since i can leave this area to go repair do yk if i can leave this area and fight some random fleet to restore resolve or nah

[soft raft]

yeah just enter a regular zone, beat up a mob node, and dip

[ivory crown]

uh why does she heal is it her adds shes been bouncing back to 45 like 4 times

[crimson glacier]

you can read her modifiers before the fight

[soft raft]

Ah you got hit with the DPS check

[tame jungle]

Welcome to pain. That’s one of the skills that the stronghold bosses can have

[ivory crown]

she heals if my flagship goes lower than 30% bruh

[soft raft]

no not your flagship

[undone plover]

It is her own hp not yours

[ivory crown]

oh lmfao im cooked

wait so what do i do no shot i have enough dps for this

[undone plover]

Do you have a CV fleet
Go in and save strikes
When she gets to around 30% use 6 airstrikes and you do enough dmg

[ivory crown]

i have two fleets one mob one boss das it 😂

[undone plover]

Get her as low as possible and just leave after
U get most of the rewards anyway

[ivory crown]

rip

[knotty dome]

a while back i asked about suchiguma's example fleets and they were alft 81 and 94. the examples are gone from the excel and now there's a word doc for alft 184 and 185, are they superceding the previous now?

[undone plover]

What is alft 81 and 94

[knotty dome]

renhex.github.io/alft/xxx

[ivory crown]

leave as in just go? like i dont go to a specific node or anything

[undone plover]

Yeah. If u dont have enough dps not much else u can do tbh

[tame jungle]

maybe if you have decent leveled and geared subs you can use those

[steep merlin]

How is she?

[knotty dome]

i'm just a bit confused by changes, like why sushi in mob got switched for nj, or why yk2 uses a f7f instead of flapjack, why doesnt alsace use table, stuff like that. if anybody knows i'd be interested to know

[viscid swift]

she's decent

[steep merlin]

I see

[sweet delta]

184 is "poverty", 185 is rich.
NJ, tigercat, and no table is "poverty"

[knotty dome]

so if i can use 185 it will perform better than 184 in all stages?

[sweet delta]

185 requires your mob boss mob fleet to fight the three bosses

They're called example fleets for a reason, if you want do use boss mob boss then take 184 and add your better stuff

[uncut oar]

Are 184 and 185 w15 comps?

[knotty dome]

sorry i'm not clear on the distinction between mob boss mob and boss mob boss

[sweet delta]

read the 15-4 section in the doc, option A vs option B

[knotty dome]

Oh i was just reading your message wrong i think i get it now. thanks

if your tech isn't endgame level and you only want to clear, not 3*, option A should be easier right?

[sweet delta]

If you have Musashi Aquila unicorn Guam laffii plus either shimanto or Jeanne, then option b would be better even for not 3 star

[knotty dome]

ok thanks

[sweet delta]

maybe

[uncut oar]

How much of the +13s do you think I need to have to make 185 workable?

Apart from the no-brainer +13 hedgehog

[sweet delta]

This may have some differences with 185, but it worked with half cats and literally zero tech

[wispy pendant]

what is the 185 and 184 we're refering to?

[red stag]

how decent is Yorktown II? shes 5 star atm but i feel like im better off full star-ing other URs like Mogador n Guam cuz i alr have Shinano and Implacable fully LB

[viscid swift]

at 5 stars mediocre

[remote yarrow]

Please don't partially Limit Break ships

Finish her first before starting a new one

[soft raft]

Yk2 > Guam >> Mogador in terms of MLB prio out of the ones you listed

[red stag]

hmm fair

[cobalt rapids]

/w15

[red stag]

also just curious what website is this lol

[cobalt rapids]

I think its this one https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

[remote yarrow]

I remember Renhex he was a good guy

[red stag]

[wispy wind]

hey guys, perhaps a stupid question, but when does clearing mode unlock? When you get 3 stars or when you cleared the map (aka defeat boss node) enough times?

[hollow gust]

clear

[cobalt rapids]

when stage 100% so latter

[soft raft]

100% clear

[wispy wind]

hmm okay, thanks for the answer....I'm having difficulties with 14-3, so I guess I'll try clearing it enough times and then attempt the "defeat all enemies" part of 3 stars

[soft raft]

you do that when you get it to safe threat lvl

[agile furnace]

Would it be better to use sovetsky Soyuz or ulrich on 14-4 both level 125

[soft raft]

Soyuz

[remote yarrow]

Without further context Soyuz

[soft raft]

UvH's off flag gimmick is her own worst enemy in W14
spamming shots burns her concealment and if she's in mob, she'll have her damage gutted if out of ammo unless you move her to flag

[hushed cliff]

Is running 2 Helldivers on Zeppelin a good idea

[soft raft]

she needs a german plane so unless you're willing to rock a german rocket fighter plane and have no AA intercept, no

Better to just give her a Ju-87 TB in her flex slot

[fervent sage]

who is better taihou or amagi

[remote yarrow]

One's a CV the other is a BB

In general they are decent I guess

[fervent sage]

the question

is to be answered

[soft raft]

We dont really compare across hulltypes but relative in comparison to their respective hulltypes, Taihou would have more use, but barely by much

[fervent sage]

👍

[remote yarrow]

The question, can't be answered cuz you can't compare 2 different Hull types

[hushed cliff]

I use the German rocket fighter

[fervent sage]

thanks unc

[hushed cliff]

But I flex out a Hellcat for AA stages

As well as a Ju-87 to get the German buff

[wispy pendant]

ah, I see now, referring to links in the guide document

[hushed cliff]

First one is my general use planes, 2nd is when AA is needed. I guess I’m just asking would it be a good idea to ditch the Saiun Kai for another helldiver

[soft raft]

Since the Sauin Kai is more of a timing adjustment plane for syncing comps, sure

[dawn hamlet]

Hi I've unlocked 12-1, which is apparently a very nice spot to xp ships, but well some of my ships still die, what's the bare lvl minimum to ensure they survive?

[soft raft]

If this is lethal clear we're talking about, the lvl the enemies are at

[remote yarrow]

I usually book my carried ships to 70~80 and carry them with 110+ ships

But it really depends about your gear and overall ship strenght

[calm rose]

once it gets to safe, it should be much easier

[remote yarrow]

probably get it to safe before leveling other ships in there

[dawn hamlet]

sorry, what's "safe"?

[remote yarrow]

Threat level

[calm rose]

repeated clear will get the threat level down to safe, which gives damage reduction

[remote yarrow]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Combat#Threat_Level

[rocky fjord]

who's flag in fishpack?

[dawn hamlet]

oh damn I really didn't know it was a thing

[rocky fjord]

btwn flasher alba archer

[remote yarrow]

Either Alba or Flasher iirc

[hushed cliff]

Do the Helldivers deal more damage

[dawn hamlet]

I guess I'll level up my strongest ships first until it's safe then
Alright thanks a bunch guys

[remote yarrow]

Checked up and it's Alba

[wispy pendant]

do we have a preliminary fleet rec for witchita yet, or are we not at max level yet?

[remote yarrow]

Suchi has some expected comps #gameplay-help message

But read this too #gameplay-help message

[wispy pendant]

@sweet delta Do you think guam and anchorage better than this? I know we think Quyet is cooking, so just wanted to hear why his suggestions maybe not the best

[crimson rock]

what would be a good comp for Chapter 9 (currently at 8-3)

[wispy pendant]

if you're following the newbie guide, the same fleet you have now

[crimson rock]

i didnt follow any guides because difficulty didnt appear until 8-2

[wispy pendant]

welp, show us what you got, and we can fix what needs fixing

[remote yarrow]

Then just post your dock in a thread sorted by level, leave out commons and rares

[crimson rock]

how do i make it not display those rarities?

[wispy pendant]

hit the "sort" button and apply the filters by only clicking elite super rare and ultra,

[remote yarrow]

Click elite,Super rare and ultra

[crimson rock]

Aight

[sweet delta]

3 Helena scans is already 21.6%, and his fleet has a high chance of wiping before third strike finishes

[wispy pendant]

k, I'll try your recipe then. Thanks for the work.

i hope we can make a 100% reliable 2 run comp

[sweet delta]

Neither fleet will let you get a kill

2 shot is really easy

[wispy pendant]

i just need a 2 run comp tbh... single shot is luxury

[sweet delta]

Try Yat-sen Sirius ninghai with any carrier main fleet

[wispy pendant]

I'll be looking for your tube or jimmy's to show a sweet 1 shot soon ❤️

[keen sable]

1

Was unicorn the one you removed? And are you still one fleeting

[stone sluice]

Is the new single 113mm good for San Diego augment module?

[warm flax]

Why HE on Wichita

[dawn hamlet]

I didn't remove unicorn, she's kinda the main carry of the mob fleet and I intend her to carry a team to xp ships along with helena
and I've now 2 fleets!
for now I'm gonna lower the threat level to safe like people recommended to do and I'll see if unicorn solo is enough or not

[keen sable]

You can use 1 L1 ship. Not 5...

[dawn hamlet]

sorry I'm not sure to understand?

[keen sable]

Generally safer to keep two decent vanguards around

[soft raft]

Witchita META is light armor

[warm flax]

Thought every CA is medium

[soft raft]

nope

[keen sable]

Witchy should have been

[dawn hamlet]

is there some recommended ships which can protect well?

[soft raft]

I mean regular Witchita is light armor so

[remote yarrow]

No, just don't carry too many shitters that will either die or make your fail

[wispy pendant]

nvm found it

[dawn hamlet]

okay will do with 2 carry on vanguard for now then, thanks again guys

[remote yarrow]

Like just bringing Unicorn + 5 underleveled ships is a bad idea

[wispy pendant]

these are the light heavy cruisers:

[remote yarrow]

From my experience I bring 3 strong main (120) + 3 shitter vanguards (70~80) or the other way around, but you can play around with whatever you got

[keen sable]

Protection vanguards aren't really a thing. Just keep the weak ship in the middle

[dawn hamlet]

will do thanks

[knotty dome]

depends how underlevelled. i had some trouble with unicorn + lvl 70's on mob only so unicorn + 5x lvl 80's or 90's should be fine i think. also depends if you have best gear or not

[keen sable]

Like belfast anchorage jda and Harbin can protect other vanguards but just putting bodies in the way is enough

That's on safe also

[dawn hamlet]

Hmm I'll invest on unicorn gears soon then

[remote yarrow]

Get her a Wyvern

[keen sable]

Usually is they are still dying with just unicorn you add Volga or aquila

[knotty dome]

if you have high levelled UR's lying around you can also stack a few with crossfleet in the boss fleet to help out

[dawn hamlet]

unfortunately I've none of ships you said uniqueName but I'm gonna take note

[vivid aspen]

https://azurlane6th.com/contest it’s not loading the art for me, any1 else has this prob?

[dawn hamlet]

oh yeah alsace is in the 2nd fleet, it does help a lot

[soft raft]

I dont think anyone's even submitted anything for it
It was only announced today

[dawn hamlet]

does magador got something for crossfleet too?

[remote yarrow]

Not gph related go over to #al-general

[soft raft]

/crossfleet <-long answer, short answer: no

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Cross-fleet_Effects.jpeg

[dawn hamlet]

thank you

[knotty dome]

they don't load for me either

[rocky fjord]

are there no sub comparisons as usual

what is fishpack's calc vs wolfpack calc

[wispy pendant]

I think Jimmy made a video, can't get much better than that

[rocky fjord]

can always get better than jimmy's videos

[wispy pendant]

impossible]

[dawn hamlet]

on unicorn, is going from a seafang to a flapjack a nice improvement?

[soft raft]

seafang to flapjack is a very big improvement in general

[dawn hamlet]

oh nice, it's my first time crafting something in the gearlab, it's fine to craft the flapjack then?

[soft raft]

It's good but low prio

[dawn hamlet]

Ah okay should I wait then? and can I see the higher prio?

[soft raft]

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[keen sable]

Dps units are more important. Also making unicorn intentionally slow

[remote yarrow]

Give her a Hellcat if you got one but Seafang is also fine

[knotty dome]

if they're struggling with the 12-1 then the extra AA might be helpful compared to slightly faster options? idk

[keen sable]

There's no dangerous planes on 12 mobs

[knotty dome]

oh ok

[keen sable]

Even 3* aviation don't have many planes

[drifting marlin]

is it possible to change the operation siren fleet or is it just stuck like that forever

[keen sable]

Blue port > fleet deploy

[tame jungle]

Should be a button near the radar on the top right that says orders

[drifting marlin]

ah thanks

[dawn hamlet]

thanks guys
I think I'll craft this one then, for alsace and during 12-1 xp I'll put it on helena, is this a good idea?

[gloomy mesa]

Should I save up for independence in the core shop?

[soft raft]

Yee
She's the only ship there worth a damn for any pratical purposes outside of fleet tech, tech points, and/or collection

[silk sphinx]

she's also useful for fleet tech so

[wispy pendant]

that said, independence feels low priority over just getting to a comfortable spot farming w12

[remote yarrow]

How do those 2 corelate?

Buying Indep and getting to W12 are two different things

[wispy pendant]

#gameplay-help message

[stark quiver]

doesnt mean shes bad

[wispy pendant]

i didn't say she's bad

she makes it into my opsi fleets every month

[keen sable]

Are you still using twin 150 on Helena or something?

[dawn hamlet]

I think so, this one right?

[remote yarrow]

I used 150mm up until I got her a Plygun

[keen sable]

Is not a big improvement to your fleet but it also uses common resources so whatever

[dawn crater]

What secondary gun should I give Alsace? (No UR gear please)

[remote yarrow]

#gameplay-help message

[keen sable]

Mog gun

[dawn crater]

Thank you

[keen sable]

The real mogami

[keen sable]

I think like junkers and bidder should be your first craft

[low juniper]

What is Auto Search Battery Saver?

[keen sable]

Opposite of 60 fps

[tranquil saffron]

Is the quad mags better than UR quin mags for Shima?

[low juniper]

But there's another setting called auto search fps reduction

[remote yarrow]

Battery saver? Maybe the Opsi batteries or something? I'm just guessing

[keen sable]

Hmm dims the screen then?

[low juniper]

Does it autoplay when the device is in sleep mode???

[soft raft]

they are about the same except UR Quint is more expensive

[dawn hamlet]

bidder is the the sub torpedo right? it definitely could be a big improvement, I only got the free stuff so far
what type of weapon junker is? I can't find it

[keen sable]

Iron blood torpedo bomber

[crimson rock]

does that, yeh

[dawn hamlet]

its name is Ju-87 D-4 ?

I can see why it's called junker x) alright I'll make one for now
thanks a lot

[inland shoal]

Some ppl still don't call it junker cuz of the confusion with stuka

[lean warren]

any good transitionals torpedo bombers options for mob fleets besides barracuda?

[remote yarrow]

Tenzan?

Tho they are converging

[lean warren]

already have ryusei and junkers, Im needing parallel bombers for my mob fleet

while I farm for the wyvern or the other ur

[remote yarrow]

What other UR? Spearfish? Just get Wyvern

And idk what other stuff you got or can craft, check out this better https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment#torpedo_bombers

[elfin thunder]

hey guys, using the ch15 example fleets who would be a suitable replacement for York2?

[flint wyvern]

Can someone help me build teams for opsi??🥹

[topaz smelt]

is volga perma yet?

[soft raft]

nope

[south sequoia]

no

[soft raft]

she only reran like a few months ago
Aquila on the other hand is next in line to be perma

[silver lintel]

Haku/enty works

[elfin thunder]

thanks 🙂

[undone plover]

make a thread and post dock

[shell willow]

what does the 4th bar mean?

[soft raft]

you doing W14?
it's the concealment bar

[shell willow]

ye w14

i see

[wild tinsel]

hiii, i've been playing for a bit and i dont know where to farm xp for my fleets

[loud rover]

highest world you can safely do, but try to get to world 9 before you power farm

[wild tinsel]

ok i'll try to farm that, i cant get past 5-1

[remote yarrow]

What fleet are you using?

Cuz that's kinda concerning

[wild tinsel]

i have this fleet

[undone plover]

I am going to link this incase no one has already. read it, it will be very useful https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/early_ship_recommendations

[wild tinsel]

tyyyyy

[inland rain]

is U-37, U-81 and U-96 a good sub fleet?

[remote yarrow]

Put Penny in the middle and limitbreak her, replace Broolyn for Portland, get Helena and replace her for Cleveland

[undone plover]

also put z23 for tank now since she is level 100
later on u want portland in tank position when she has enough levels

[wild tinsel]

i have this other team too

[undone plover]

try and get Hood in medal shop for 80 medals
retire duplicate rare and elite ships to get medals
but dont do that to dupes of the ships u are using

[remote yarrow]

You don't really need a second fleet until later on

So scrap that one and move portland over to the other one

Also that fleet is pretty bad

[wild tinsel]

tysm for the tips

[remote yarrow]

Like Faerlein said, check your Medal shop and get Hood asap

And yw, just come here whenever you need help or got questions

[viscid mauve]

is there a list that has all the ships that uses specific guns/planes like gangut?

[remote yarrow]

Like Niche equipment?

[viscid mauve]

yeah

[remote yarrow]

They are mostly marked with a green border but make sure to read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[marble karma]

Hello, i'm new to the game

Is my fleet good? Or do i need to change some ships?

[viscid mauve]

thanks

[remote yarrow]

No and yes

Give this a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
But mostly the same we told the other guy

Nelson,Unicorn,Hornet
Portland,Javelin, Helena

[marble karma]

I have read it, and also the community tier list
Some ships i use on my fleet are good, and i have some early ships too

[remote yarrow]

You dont need to use a second fleet until later on

[remote yarrow]

Well if you read it why not use the recommended starter fleet?

[wispy pendant]

unicorn is a lot better after retrofit

all ships are better at full limit break

[marble karma]

I dont know who to swap, cuz some my ships good when paired

[remote yarrow]

Look just forget everything about "pairing" ships

They are mostly bait buffs

[viscid swift]

What pairings exactly

There's no ships in your fleets that particularly benefit from being paired with others

And frankly speaking some buffs don't magically transform a bad ship into a good one

[wispy pendant]

ask for help
proceeds to justify decisions instead of listen to help

[remote yarrow]

He didn't really said that tho

He just though it worked like that since he's a newbie

[viscid swift]

Nelson, Unicorn, Hornet, Portland, Javelin, Helena

Stick with that for now

[wispy pendant]

I think cheeky means use the ships he just mentioned

[marble karma]

Forgot to mention
I also have 80 medal token, who should i exchange?

[remote yarrow]

Hood since you are in Lil E

[wild tinsel]

i dont have enough of em

[wispy pendant]

or bulins

[marble karma]

I heard they once put enterprise, but she's gone

[viscid swift]

The ships in the medal shop rotate every month

This month for Little Enterprise it's BBs and CAs

[remote yarrow]

You still got time to get her

[marble karma]

Ohhh
Should i get for hood first or save for enterprise?

[wispy pendant]

you eventually want a good battle cruiser or two, Hood is really good and one of the easier ones to find:

But later this week, Seydlitz is coming, and she's good also

[viscid swift]

Get Hood

[remote yarrow]

I literally just said get Hood

[marble karma]

Ok

[hidden fox]

I forgot what I was talking about here yesterday but for mob and boss fleets. what type of torpedo bombers are better for mobbing: converging or parallel

[viscid swift]

You'll have more than enough time to get 80 more medals if Enterprise does appear next month

[remote yarrow]

parallel mostly

[hidden fox]

welp, time to reorganize gear. Again

[viscid swift]

Depends on the plane and context
Parallels usually but converging TBs can be potent when used correctly

[wispy pendant]

brunhilde also likely rerunning later this summer or in the fall

[hidden fox]

this for W13 so I was talking about my theoratical fleet comp for that and I got two ryusies on my Shinano + Tenrai bomber

I was thinking of putting her on mob

but I getting harkuyuu in a few sorties

[viscid swift]

I somewhat doubt Shinano should be on mobbing

Either way she should not not be using a ryussei in her first slot for W13

[undone plover]

just use indep + uni on mob up to ch14

[wispy pendant]

all ships that you're leveling are fine on mobs

[hidden fox]

yeah ik I got some work to do

[wispy pendant]

but i guess first clear on w13, leveling up shouldn't be what you're worried about

[hidden fox]

I on 13-4

so I got to account for taihou heavy armor

[wispy pendant]

so, who is on boss?

[hidden fox]

currently rn: Enterprise, NJ, Bismarck Z, Guam, Leffey II, Sandy

[wispy pendant]

even more carrier is good

but that might clear with that much aa

[viscid swift]

Doesn't really matter with that much AA

[wispy pendant]

yeh, that's a lot of AA

make sure your ACV is in the green

[hidden fox]

yeah some people thought I should move my boss vangaurd to mob because the aa would be good but then that makes the boss fleet very fucky wucky to say the least

[viscid swift]

I doubt they said that

What they probably said was move one of them to the mob fleet to cover AA there

[hidden fox]

yeah they didn;t I just saying I got a lot of options but they all counteract

[viscid swift]

What exactly do you have to work with

May as well sort the issue here and now

[hidden fox]

Well I rethought the fleet comp to compensate AA and this is what I have in mind:
Mob: Essex/Saratoga, Harkuyuu, Unicorn, Anchorage, Yudachhi, Seattle
Boss: Shinano, NJ, Bismarck Z, Guam, Laffey II, Sandy

I have both french URs, Unzen, Shimakaze

hold on let me finish the run and I screenshot what I got

[undone plover]

swap hakuryuu with NJ and yuudachi with laff2 imo

[hidden fox]

@viscid swift alr this what I got to work with. I 56% xp for Harkuyuu so the grind continues but anything change or

[viscid swift]

Mob: FDG, Unicorn, Saratoga, Roon, Yuudachi, Laffey 2
Boss: NJ, Bismarck Zwei, Enterprise, Guam, Unzen, San Diego

You don't need to wait to level ships, go now

[hidden fox]

but does my theoretical setup work?

[viscid swift]

It works

Not particularly the best fleet building wise though

[hidden fox]

eh, I just throw whatever works

I try to use the buffs UR's give so thats why I don't have UR in mob most the time

[viscid swift]

That's a very poor way of thinking things

You use ships wherever they're best utilized

And if anything late game mobbing is more challenging than the bosses in campaign

[hidden fox]

ah

oh so that fan wiki for the ships just use that to see whos good at what

[viscid swift]

What fan wiki

[hidden fox]

this thingy https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home

[viscid swift]

Just remember to read the guidelines
Really though my best advice would be to start learning what ships are good at what and lean off the tier lists entirely

[heavy shale]

what frontline units heal backlines

[viscid swift]

Brest, Kazagumo and I think Yukikaze for CVs...

It's a very short list

[silk sphinx]

*wean

[heavy shale]

nothing for bbs?

[hidden fox]

as in?

[viscid swift]

Huh?

[silk sphinx]

As in battleships that heal?

[hidden fox]

read the guidelines as in? the ship desc?

[silk sphinx]

uh is the best healer bb norcal ig, who's still a p bad ship

[heavy shale]

a vanguard that heals backline but also buffs bb

[viscid swift]

Brest if the BB is the lowest HP ship in the fleet

[heavy shale]

ok ty

[viscid swift]

What is this even for

[viscid swift]

The tiering guidelines for the tier list

[silk sphinx]

if your backline is dying, more aa, fire extinguisher and possibly even rudder. and make your vanguard and ships in general stronger

[hidden fox]

oh

[little tree]

What more then a fire extinguisher can i put on hood to keep her alive 11-3 is taxing she dies after fight 2

[heavy shale]

just grinding exp 12-4 backline low levels

for last ship unlock in labv

[little tree]

She is level 95

[viscid swift]

I would seriously suggest reevaluating your gear and ship levels then

[little tree]

okay she is the only one in my mob fleet taht dies

[silk sphinx]

probably suicide boats? reevaluate fleet and gear

[viscid swift]

Well considering she's 10 levels under the enemies that doesn't help

20% more damage taken from them and 20% less damage dealt to them by her

Also that's enemy BBs in w11 do

Treat this as precursor to what happens in W14

[little tree]

Gotcha do they alwasy target flagship first the enemy BB?

[viscid swift]

They'll target your main fleets and fire at them with HE shells that apply some serious fires

And because Hood is probably the only BB in your fleet she's probably the only one that's visible to them

[little tree]

Yes the other 2 are CV

or CL's what ever carriers are

[viscid swift]

So get some more levels on her and/or start enhancing gear to kill them faster

[hidden fox]

@viscid swift what would be better. Baguette or Ryusie

[viscid swift]

For what?

[hidden fox]

just general use TB

or in the context I've been talking about W13

[viscid swift]

On Unicorn and Independence Breguets

In Enterprise I'd lean more towards Ryuuseis

[uncut oar]

See TBs are either converging or parallel so there's not really a "general use" because parallel is a lot better for mobbing and converging is for bossing

[hidden fox]

what about Shinano and Harkuyuu or any other fleet carriers

[viscid swift]

Situationally dependent as always

[hidden fox]

got it

[uncut oar]

It's not like fighters or DBs where you're dropping bombs anyways in most cases and therefore don't care if it's mob or boss

[keen sable]

Are you underleveled? If you haven't noticed nagato will wreck you. This is why 11 is hard to farm. Kill nagato faster is the only cure. FE and rudder may help but doesn't help with the kill faster part

[little tree]

Well my mob fleet is fine on killing 7 fleets just hood dies really fast

[heady pier]

should i try to rush 12-x without gettin 3 stars and stuff? im at 10-4 and just about the 3 star it

[keen sable]

If you can yes

[heady pier]

well ill try to do it all i have to do is get every map %100 right to reach next one

[little tree]

Baltimore and hood take the most dmg everything else works well

[viscid swift]

Are you still one fleeting?

[little tree]

No

[keen sable]

Nagato is also anti medium...

[forest palm]

Baltimore isn't a tank for one

[viscid swift]

Why is Helena in the mob fleet then

[little tree]

Z23 is on boss swap them?

[viscid swift]

Well who else is in the boss fleet

[viscid swift]

Swap Z23 and Helena yes

[little tree]

Will do

[forest palm]

swap portland, and Baltimore while you're at it

[little tree]

Okay

[keen sable]

6?

[little tree]

6 what ?

[keen sable]

Boss shows up after 6

[little tree]

Oh yea It 6 fleets fine

Brennus is supreisingly tanky was orginl just leveling them but they work very well

are there any other good AA ships besides San Diego i should try farming for

[atomic abyss]

Her sister juneau is a good backup option

Otherwise there's Cheshire from PR3

[loud rover]

guam :> laff2

[little tree]

Thank you ill add them to the list

[atomic abyss]

You can't farm those tho...

[crimson rock]

I (somehow idk how) have 200 prototype core, what should I grab?

[atomic abyss]

/protocore

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Prototype_Core_Guide.jpeg

[atomic abyss]

Probably the PR3 gear BP for the champagne gun

[dense epoch]

when is this games s anniv event?