gameplay-help

[still gate]

shells

[atomic abyss]

red outline = high priority
so shells

[turbid dawn]

So say I have a pretty good meowficcer now, is there a way to rename it or something so I know what its for?

[vestal thistle]

For who though

[viscid swift]

all of your BBs
You want at least 3 pairs

[still gate]

for bb ships

[vestal thistle]

So get a pair?

[atomic abyss]

2 or 3 pairs

[vestal thistle]

My only used bb is alsace

[atomic abyss]

so alsace for now

[viscid swift]

that will change in the near future

[vestal thistle]

Okay which first

[viscid swift]

white shell, then black shell

[turbid dawn]

Ahhh thanks I was being blind and looking top left being a dumbass

[viscid trout]

Is there any way to disassemble Special equip? 150/150 already ...

[fluid brook]

Feed them to other Augs

[atomic abyss]

augments? feed them to other augments

[viscid swift]

only way is to use them to enhance other augments

[viscid trout]

Ooo thanks :)

[vale spindle]

If you equip them then they dont take up space as well

[frank pulsar]

how does ply gun perform as bb aux gun compared to stuff like 155

[vale spindle]

Should be better outright pretty sure

[frank pulsar]

this is for w15, the gear is fine right? im not sure if mog gun > 100 kai on laffii

[eager mulch]

how does mog gun perform as bb aux gun compared to stuff like 137

[vale spindle]

better

[eager mulch]

naisu

[vale spindle]

*in theory

cause it's basically 128 but jacked

[viscid swift]

According to suchi 155 is worse than the 137

[vale spindle]

well yes cause 137 is a cl gun in disguise

[frank pulsar]

i thought dd gun was straight up worse than cl gun as bb aux

[atomic abyss]

some CL guns just aren't as good at intercepting

[sweet delta]

138.6 should be worse than 137 for shooting suicide boats

[vale spindle]

But better than 128 right

[sweet delta]

I suppose

[frank pulsar]

anyone? if not im just gonna go in like this

[eager mulch]

hammer laffii sus

[vale spindle]

slash augment on shimanto might be better

[frank pulsar]

mash told me hammer > sword

[silver lintel]

how does clearing mode work for 15-4

[viscid swift]

Super CVs are changed to 3 star CV fleets and debuff from fighting the boss is removed

Boss fleet has to fight all 3 bosses though

[frank pulsar]

laffii almost died on first super cv node
i guess sandy gets the hedgehog

[hollow gust]

thats kinda impressive

[steady beacon]

That certainly holds in PvP, at least
I also prefer for boss fights, although I might be a tad weird in that
Most people seem to prefer Swords in most cases, though

[viscid swift]

did she actually die though

[frank pulsar]

like 10% left?

[viscid swift]

if she didn't die then keep on going

Laffey 2 isn't like other ships after all

[sweet delta]

Why pearl not manjuu

[viscid swift]

she's a cockroach after all

[frank pulsar]

i forgot manjuu exist

[eager mulch]

cock roach

[vale spindle]

She is very wholesome I'll have you know

[silver lintel]

hmm my boss fleet cant fight all 3 bosses?

[uncut oar]

lazy ass loli, not much wholesome about her

[silver lintel]

time to manually select ships

[uncut oar]

[viscid swift]

she's like a french DD in WoWs, the more damage she takes the harder it is to kill her because she takes less damage

[eager mulch]

i got detonated in Marceau

[tame jungle]

Detflagless behavior

There was some sort of guide for meowfficers right? I can’t seem to find it

[frank pulsar]

how do i know when to use circle and when to use double line? is it just circle whenever main fleet low and double when vanguard low?

[tame jungle]

Nvm i found it 🥸

[fading ginkgo]

Do muse ships count towards PR exp?

[uncut oar]

Muse is muse so no

[viscid swift]

they do

they're still part of their OG faction

[calm rose]

muse ship are still their original faction

[frank pulsar]

muse dont give tech point, but they contribute pr exp

[fading ginkgo]

Lol

[sweet delta]

Sandy gets sextuple, and use bulges instead of HP

[turbid dawn]

I'm presuming using a cat like this is worth it as it's only 1 talent off being perfect? Would it even be worth trying to get a better 1?

[uncut oar]

Wasn't there even skills that worked on muse as a faction

Or did they actually go out of their way to specify muse ships

[frank pulsar]

sandy? not shimanto?

[sweet delta]

Sandy's AA mount is number wan

[keen sable]

are you sure that's a flame? a random cat could be far worse

[fluid brook]

You mean Rice's guide? ~~https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGuide~~

[turbid dawn]

Yeah it's flames aggresion, the only problem is the accuracy buff, which I don't feel like is even that bad but missing the 'ace pilot' as a result

[uncut oar]

What's the base on the cat

[keen sable]

you roll ace onto a flame or flame onto an ace. Starting with both is super cope.

[uncut oar]

I mean she's 28, you are missing 1 talent, rolling ace is a thing

[sweet delta]

If you don't want this to happen, then use bulge

[frank pulsar]

whys laffii sandwiched? also albion and haku

[sweet delta]

Because kirov died

[turbid dawn]

I'll stick with it now and work on other cats

[sweet delta]

Albion is meh anyways

[frank pulsar]

im surprised albion is working for you, she stopped working for me since 15-2

[sweet delta]

Almost all ships work for me

[frank pulsar]

you have maxed tech dont you

[sweet delta]

But I wouldn't call 50% hp after the first boss as working

[icy mountain]

is it fine to run double toolbox on my middle vanguard in chap 13?

[calm rose]

who is that ontop of illustrious in the support fleet?

[silver lintel]

tried swapping alsace and soyuz for 15-4 and performed much worse lol, man I hate concealment

[frank pulsar]

depends on the ship

[frank pulsar]

chen hai

[eager mulch]

how good are Spence and Jamaica augs

[sweet delta]

Spence Aug is pretty strong

[eager mulch]

naisu

[atomic abyss]

tn to t5?

[eager mulch]

what?

[sweet delta]

We don't deal with tiers here

[meager gyro]

what this?

[tame jungle]

not in prelim evals from ectl yet at least

[keen sable]

flavor

[calm rose]

lore for opsi

[meager gyro]

?

[atomic abyss]

nothing important in other words

[icy mountain]

should i craft saratoga aug?

[eager mulch]

important because star objectives

[frank pulsar]

is 2* bb node or triforce recon safer

[eager mulch]

one way to find out

[meager gyro]

does opsi reduce mood?

[keen sable]

it does benefit from mood though or suffer

[eager mulch]

doesn’t reduce your ships mood but it definitely reduces my mood

[uncut oar]

Skill issue

[meager gyro]

same

[sweet delta]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PHOpBGltnFNemxxsATJ-Qx-buk4HSh1jnIYFeK9EqhI/edit?usp=sharing

[lyric zealot]

I Ran Out Of Dock Capacity
Should I Eradicate The Elite And Below?

[cobalt rapids]

If backline dying to planes then circle, u can also check before each fight for a low cost of 2 morale and 6 oil

[frank pulsar]

doc doesnt state anyt specific, ill just go for the 2* bb node to save recon nodes

[cobalt rapids]

Are u 3* ing? If not i wouldnt fight main fleets at all

[viscid swift]

get rid of dupes and use bullins first

[lyric zealot]

No Coins :'v

[meager gyro]

i feel you

[uncut oar]

How big is flapjack vs skyrocket diff?

For w15 support

[frank pulsar]

mb im blind

[uncut oar]

Deciding rn if I wanna invest in flapjacks because I already have tigercats for bomb fighter duty

[frank pulsar]

ty guys

[uncut oar]

@sweet delta pinging you suchi because you wrote it, w15 support moment

[frank pulsar]

iirc was like 15%(?) diff in terms of aa dont quote me

[meager gyro]

do dr ships already come with lvl 10 skills?

[turbid dawn]

There doesn't seem to be any info on the guide+meowficcer page but how do the cat box quick finishers work? Because I had 9k thinking I'd be able to do 9k boxes but it costs 300+ to finish 10 boxes of SR and I'm already down to 3k, is there an easy way to get more of these quick finishers?

[cobalt rapids]

No its just from comfort

[keen sable]

i've never even used one

[cobalt rapids]

They cut a flat amount of time idr so ull use depending on how long the timer of the cat is and timer scales with rarity but diff per cat

[uncut oar]

Would you say all skyrocket is fine for support if I have the top 3 support carriers all raised

[sweet delta]

The only reasonable test I've seen found some difference after 2 battles 5 times for each setup

[turbid dawn]

So once I've used all quick finishers if I wanna continue farming for more I'm just gonna have to buy in bulk and wait for the 10hrs for the SR boxes to finish?

[cobalt rapids]

Yes

But ull run out of sr boxes soon since income is lower than training by alot

[turbid dawn]

I was hoping to get this all done in 1 go damn but I'm 200 SR boxes deep and only got like 3 decent cats and 0 perfect 1s

[cobalt rapids]

Dw im 2 years of cat farm and havent got a perfect base

[uncut oar]

I'll just get skyrockets then since I don't think I really have the t2 ords to throw away atm, ty

[cobalt rapids]

Cat rework was a lie

[silver lintel]

Its fine i just cleared with fw190 / skyrocket mix and using lusty/chenhai/langley lol@uncut oar

[fresh tangle]

Shop priority for medals is outdated. Sirius isn’t in there or am I missing something?

[sweet delta]

Cat fix was no cap

[atomic abyss]

it is not outdated

medal shop rotation is different from month to month and server to server

[frank pulsar]

medal shop hull types rotate monthly
also go to sams server if you want to give feedback on his website

[fresh tangle]

Not a real complaint/feedback just wanted to make sure I wasn’t being silly

Sitting on some medals and already capped on gold bulins so I suppose the question is are any of the SRs worth it or is it just “fleet tech pick”

[viscid swift]

it's just fleet tech

[fresh tangle]

More EU tech for me

[tame jungle]

i'd say get the germans if you're still lacking for friedrich

[fresh tangle]

I’ve not even started thinking about IB tech tbh. I’m tunnel visioning anchorage 😂

[atomic abyss]

fdg shd be before ancho tbh...

[tame jungle]

how far are you along for anchorage?

[uncut oar]

Would you still actually focus pr4 in this day and age?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[uncut oar]

I imagine yes, because tenrai yeah

[eager mulch]

I don’t

[fresh tangle]

728/850 and 351 bps

[uncut oar]

Imo I'd get a german bb for fdg.

If it's going to be fleet tech anyways

[fresh tangle]

Well yeah idk if any of them are legit worth using or just fleet tech

[tame jungle]

ehhh honestly just finish anchorage atp because you'll be able to use her pretty soon after developing her

then just instaswitch to friedrich and coin her up every day

[fresh tangle]

I can develop Brest now too idk if that’s worth it

[tame jungle]

fdg first

[surreal gale]

how to get gold if i new to the game?

[uncut oar]

I don't think not getting a uss ship from medal is going to slow them down much is why I said that

[fresh tangle]

Brest is best? 👀😂

[atomic abyss]

not the priority

[uncut oar]

Brest is not best but she has use in 14/15

[atomic abyss]

agir is priority
also in pr4

[fresh tangle]

Yeah I mean it definitely isn’t make or break I’m using monthly/weekly epics for epic EU ships

[tame jungle]

carried by DR CB status...

[fresh tangle]

She might be priority but doing campaign gives you access to EU tech easily where for IB tech that requires divergent farming

[uncut oar]

Also it's elite/purple, not epic, this isn't a ubisoft looter-shooter

[fresh tangle]

I’m planning on getting to w12 then chilling

[tame jungle]

there's maps after W12?

[uncut oar]

if I don't believe w13 exists w13 cannot hurt me

[surreal gale]

How to lvl up ships

[fresh tangle]

Can’t hurt you if you don’t click that little arrow to the right

[tame jungle]

play game

[atomic abyss]

use them in battle

[fresh tangle]

Ok so focus people 😂 all of the medal ships are fleet tech or niche use yeah?

I’m gonna take a German BB otherwise for tech

[viscid swift]

every single BB in the medal shop is worse than Hood so yes

[sweet delta]

there's new IB event after Rondo rerun

[tame jungle]

is that so

[viscid swift]

yes

[tame jungle]

awesome

[viscid swift]

right after in fact

[tame jungle]

wait no dead week?

[viscid swift]

nope

[tame jungle]

[fresh tangle]

I mean there are CAs too 👀😂

[eager mulch]

every single CA in the medal shop is worse than Hood so yes

[fresh tangle]

Is CA comparing to BB not a little apples to oranges

[cobalt rapids]

Both fruits cost medals

[tame jungle]

backliners usually more influential on hard content anyway

[sweet delta]

It's comparing strawberries to lemons

[fresh tangle]

True yeah. Who cares about vanguard ships. I’m still using little spee and shigure

And not retrofitting

[uncut oar]

You do care about vanguard but it's just you prio backline

Dead vanguard means your backline doesn't do damage anymore because you lose the battle after all

Vanguard also has ships like helena, ply/harbin, laff2, all of the DDGs etc that come close to backline ship output (or in Helena's case, flat out exceed it if you have good RNG and a good fleet in general)

[fresh tangle]

I just missed laff2 I am sad

[rose whale]

So I'm using Brest with these gears for the fleet that handle 15-4 2nd boss fight. Won 4 times, but she always get dangerously low if I don't manual. How to improve? I just want to let it play auto, I'll select target and adjust formation

[calm rose]

try torpedo bulge

also give her the rainbow AA if possible, brest wants atleast a piece of french gear

[cobalt rapids]

Are u double line, try ancho

[calm rose]

ancho is better than brest?

[cobalt rapids]

For single fight, better vanguard support

[rose whale]

yesterday I planned to go with anchor, but after asking here, peeps suggested brest 😄

[sudden cedar]

How do i speed up the download of the resources

Its only downloading in 1mb/s

[atomic abyss]

get better internet

[rose whale]

Think I can move a rainbow AA gun to brest. Will try the torpedo bulge as well

[sudden cedar]

My internet is fast tho it csn download 1gb in a different game very fast

[fresh tangle]

For bearn meta what aux weapon should she use? Thinking because of her third skill

[atomic abyss]

full planes

[atomic abyss]

nothing you can do about it then

[sudden cedar]

HELP ME PLSS I DON'T WANNA WAIT THIS LONG

[calm rose]

we cant help you with that sadly

[sudden cedar]

I have to wait 15000 seconds

[atomic abyss]

just go touch some grass and it'll be done by the time you're back

[whole crypt]

it's definitely a network issue of some sort on your end, the fastest I've seen my updates go are like 20MB/s

[sudden cedar]

How many hours is 15000 seconds

[atomic abyss]

4h ish
but i doubt it'll be that long

[sudden cedar]

My download in blue archive and pgr goes burrrr tho

Takes abt 1 hour

[atomic abyss]

uh

[soft raft]

ok and?

[atomic abyss]

that is not fast

[sudden cedar]

Is there rlly no way?????

[topaz smelt]

Sounds pretty slow

[sudden cedar]

I wanananamaananaaaaa playayayayayayaya

[atomic abyss]

BA is like 7gb
7gb in 1 hour is slow lol

[whole crypt]

the last time I updated BA when I bothered, the large updates took me like 5-10min

[atomic abyss]

AL update is about 10gb ish

[sudden cedar]

Guess ill just sleep

[whole crypt]

go complain in #al-general #off-topic or #technology , we can't help you here

[topaz smelt]

Fresh installs take like 10mins tops

[tame jungle]

is this really a gph issue

[sudden cedar]

Maybe it will finish

[atomic abyss]

it's an internet issue lol

[topaz smelt]

Nope

[sudden cedar]

Also any tips when it finishes?

[whole crypt]

are you completely new player?

[sudden cedar]

Ye

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[whole crypt]

that and this https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/early_ship_recommendations

[sudden cedar]

Just saw it randomly in play store

[scenic valley]

where can i find the low rarity gear to craft rainbow aa gun

[sudden cedar]

Is the game easy or hard to understand?

[soft raft]

French tech boxes

[rose whale]

buy iris gear box in merit shop, daily shop, medal shop...

[whole crypt]

French boxes are in medal shop
you can also use protocore to buy PR2 prints for the gold AA gun which will save some materials along the way

[scenic valley]

gotcha, thanks guys

[sudden cedar]

Wait are the characters called ships?

[whole crypt]

if you're not going into ch15 or don't seriously have a lot of electronics I recommend waiting for PR2 prints

[atomic abyss]

if you read anything about the game before downloading it
all the characters in the game are named after ships

[whole crypt]

the characters are anthropomorphosized warships yes

[sudden cedar]

Ohh

I was just reading the link

[rose whale]

anthropomorphosized

I can never remember this word

[tame jungle]

good one for spelling bee

[sudden cedar]

Is this game easy to understand?

[whole crypt]

if you start from the PR2 gun you save this much electronics

[sudden cedar]

Guys does this still download if i turn off my phone?

Cuz i gotta go to sleep

[uncut oar]

Gold AA gun... the accelerator AA from old days?

[whole crypt]

game can background download but may be affected by your phone settings

[whole crypt]

yes the shit bucket from PR2

[uncut oar]

[viscid swift]

depends
you don't really need to understand anything about the game to clear most content but you will be rwearded if you do take the time to understand the game and it's mechanics

[calm rose]

literally trashcan

[whole crypt]

if you're in a position where you really need rainbow AA, you should have some protocore to spare for PR2 gear prints

trashcan also only costs 15 prints unlike most reserach gear

[uncut oar]

I mean I have pr4 complete so I have the means of production if I actually need core for someting

along with coping for third 🅱️enrai

[atomic abyss]

lock? maybe depends on phone settings

no way it's gonna work if it's switched off tho...

[whole crypt]

if you have two I recommend coping for q152 instead
PR7 also coming soon and probably safer to kick that off directly to avoid falling behind

[uncut oar]

Third q152?

[viscid swift]

Plymouth gun

[whole crypt]

as many as you can get?

[uncut oar]

I have my two plyguns

[whole crypt]

you'll want more than 2 but yeh

[viscid swift]

you're better off rushing to finish PR6 then before PR7 drops next month

[uncut oar]

Yeah I am, this is for if I need core for something

[whole crypt]

well are you done with 5 and 6?

if not, how far

[uncut oar]

In which case going back to pr4 is an option is all I'm saying, I'm done with everything I want with 5, 6 is a long way out

Brest is literally just cdc waiting room

Hinden's like. Sub d20 prints

Hiatus hurts

[whole crypt]

you can but a third Tenrai isn't really useful

[atomic abyss]

unfortunately it's a rainbow db not a rainbow tb

[viscid swift]

you won't have time either

realistically by the time you go back to finish it, it'll be in the gear lab already

[atomic abyss]

a rainbow converging TB would be hot topic tho

[uncut oar]

also funnily enough, I don't actually need a third plygun atm, the second one's on Helena if that tells you anything

[whole crypt]

unless you're planning on another hiatus in the next half a year I recommend just going straight into PR7 when it launches and push through it

[uncut oar]

I'm not until Kears is done regardless of if I'm taking a break

Kearsarge has priority over anything else

[whole crypt]

whoever said anything about using q152 on vanguards?

[viscid swift]

you can use up to 5 easily in a BB fleet

[uncut oar]

using q152 for FP pad huh

[whole crypt]

for real, yes

[rose whale]

i'm drooling 🤤

[viscid swift]

still a new player, I only have 5

[meager gyro]

[rose whale]

crying in a corner with just 2

[uncut oar]

^

[meager gyro]

0 right here

[whole crypt]

this is what you get if you do your researches efficiently

stigma probably has 8

[uncut oar]

Speaking of that is there a reaearch guide

[calm rose]

aren't you like new new

[uncut oar]

Like I think I'm doing them at least decently well I just don't have incredible uptime and don't have the resources to do cube often

[whole crypt]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[viscid swift]

not cubing isn't an issue, not maintaining 100% research uptime though is

[meager gyro]

ive been playing for like 4 years

[viscid swift]

I would argue you haven't but details...

[whole crypt]

he's not new he's just been doing things wrongly for 4 years

[calm rose]

i see

[whole crypt]

cubing hard isn't that useful for gear prints anyway and you end up with too much excess ship prints

by the time you have 1 or 2 of the PRs complete you don't really want to use cube anymore besides as a refresh

[uncut oar]

This issue shouldn't be issue anymore though even "not 100%" is still fairly close while I actively play

[viscid swift]

it's just a case of picking the right researches then

[uncut oar]

Which I think I've been doing properly and nothing comes off as going against the guide

Rainbow face over everything else, UL over everything else outside of that, then regular faces prioritizing long DRs and refresh with blue rigging if needed

[whole crypt]

well it takes time as well, per series

[uncut oar]

I think my one mistake is undervaluing purple rigging but that shouldn't have been a 5 plygun diff

[rose whale]

I wonder when will quad 152 appear in gear lab

[uncut oar]

Was it just because I was new and catching up to pr4 when pr5 hit

[viscid swift]

still more than a year off at this rate

[soft raft]

in like two years maybe

[whole crypt]

in comparison I only have 3 hindenburg guns now that we're closing to the 1 year mark for PR6, since I spent time back in PR5

[viscid swift]

that would be part of it
getting a lot of UR gear just takes time

[turbid dawn]

What to use Protocore for? Or do I just save it up and hope they add some extra stuff in it. I iwsh they had the current CA gun because christ I can't get prints for that

[uncut oar]

I joined during kron event so pr6 was supposed to be my big "I'm caught up" season then uh

[turbid dawn]

How on earth? I only have 30 prints of that gun and I've been non stop farming for it

[uncut oar]

Depression, moving countries and ultimate raiding in 14 happened

[viscid swift]

I myself only started in late 2020 and I didn't start taking PR seriously until late 2021

[whole crypt]

it's always the same answer, 100% uptime with good research choices

[uncut oar]

When was kron? Feb 2022?

[viscid swift]

yes

[whole crypt]

PR3 for champagne guns if you need more
PR4 for BF-109G if you need more
PR2 for trashcan to craft rainbow AA

[atomic abyss]

series 3 BPs to craft champagne guns if you lack 3
otherwise series 4 BPs for bf109 or saiuns

[uncut oar]

Ig I'll try not to be too discouraged then I think this is literally just a zoomer issue

[viscid swift]

well, PR does take time

[turbid dawn]

I mean I've been doing that, I recently analyzed an extra 300 prints for each PR6 ship I've done that much and 90% of my researches since I fully completed them ages ago have been rigging but they just dont drop

[uncut oar]

Yeah, I guess I thought 2 years'd be enough to catch up

I did make some mistakes starting out too which slowed me down

[whole crypt]

which is why I said you should just hit up PR7 straight

[uncut oar]

Going for sanrui and drek

[whole crypt]

if you do it on schedule and wrap it up for the series you're free to go back for prints with older series

[uncut oar]

I will but I also am finishing Kears first, can't help being a BBV believer

[calm rose]

i did the exact same thing lmao

[uncut oar]

I'm not far off from Kears anyways the counter's a bit behind, lemme fix that

[whole crypt]

my serious recommendation is move on to PR7 since catchup should be soon even if not at the same time

that's 150 Kearsarge prints right there

[uncut oar]

I'm under 150 I may aswell finish her and use the prints for fs5 tbh

Again because we do have a month

[whole crypt]

especially if you haven't finished the rest of PR6 it's a lot faster than coping for her face research to show up

don't expect Kearsarge's FS any time soon

[calm rose]

out of pr6 UR bp selector?

[uncut oar]

I'm not

[turbid dawn]

Literally this is what my research has been looking like for ages, I've had over 900 prints total for each SR PR6 ship and I haven't gotten more then 35 hinden gun prints

[misty tree]

So if i havent finished PR4 i should just skip to PR7 when it comes out and come back later?

[uncut oar]

Also I've been using selectors as I get them

[glacial heath]

do we even know what pr7 is

[viscid swift]

how long have you actually been on PR6 gear focus

[whole crypt]

you'll have a chance to do something about spare DR6 prints for her FS by the time her FS gets added, like even if you just keep buying from medal shop

[uncut oar]

That's fair

[topaz smelt]

pr gear catchup is just gear lab, just do opsi more

[viscid swift]

no, all we know it will have an Italian DR CA

i.e. Venezia, Brindisi, or Napoli

[turbid dawn]

I couldn't give you an exact date but I believe it was quite early this year, I started on day 1 and was one of the first to my knowledge to be fully finished

[whole crypt]

I finished the ships somewhere back in November and have been only focusing gear since, if that helps?

[uncut oar]

I'll continue focusing Kears for now and see what even happens by the time pr7 happens, I think she'll be done and I can cross the bridge of what if she isn't when we get there

[whole crypt]

it's really just time

[viscid swift]

so you took around 6 months to max all the PR6 ships, and have been doing gear focus since the start of this year and only gotten 30 Hindenburg gun prints total

[whole crypt]

6 months to max ships is kind of long unless you've been focusing gear first

[turbid dawn]

Aye, that's correct. It's been so frustrating, they don't even drop from the 30m rigging ones I've been doing and I've seen quite a lot of them

[viscid swift]

I'm gonna be completely honest, those numbers don't add up in the slightest, they are far beyond just bad RNG

[topaz smelt]

free pr taker

[glacial heath]

i'll stick to pr4 until i have gotten approx 250 haku prints, then no matter what pr7 has, i will go pr5 for brest.

[viscid swift]

which leads me to believe you are doing something wrong
whether you know it or not

[ripe bluff]

Chat do you guys know when Tai Yuan retrofit item will be available again

[viscid swift]

no

[ripe bluff]

Bruhg

[meager gyro]

actually what does that even do?

[turbid dawn]

I did kinda fuck up because I was doing both the 1:30 grant donation and 1:00 rigging ones but only recently found out how far over Fate sim I was for BPs, had 400+ for each ship

[whole crypt]

it's a hidden zone

you should be able to clear that one if you want to try

[meager gyro]

why do i need that? its literally on the map already

[glacial heath]

just clear it bro

[turbid dawn]

Hence why I have so much protocore now even after buying the excess UR prints I didnt have

[whole crypt]

each coordinate item allows you to enter a special zone once

[viscid swift]

well not taking 4 and 2 hour Qs and 4 hour Gs is one way to fuck over your efficiency

[whole crypt]

are you done with everything else in PR5?

[turbid dawn]

I always go for the longer 1s if they pop up but they rarely do, for me it was All rigging ones> soul forming> 1:30 grant donation

[glacial heath]

i only have plymouth and harbin done.

[viscid swift]

and how long have you been doing that strictly

[whole crypt]

in that case my recommendation is if you're going to PR5, do the whole series before moving on for 6 or 7

[turbid dawn]

Since I finished back in like Jan I think

[whole crypt]

then when you move on to 6/7 also finish the whole series before moving on

[glacial heath]

is it fine moving on from pr4 with haku, agir ancho done?

[viscid swift]

and you've been maintaining damn near 100% uptime since then yes with no deviations to get more ship prints or going to other seasons for whatever reason

[whole crypt]

PR4 can be coined and is next on the list to be taken off research roster, the main thing is just whether you have at least 2 Tenrais

[glacial heath]

already have two tenrais, and im on 11 or 14 print for third tenrai

[turbid dawn]

Correct, if I ever go to bed I do take the 8hr face 1s if they appear, I think the only downtime I had was for about 10 days. I had literally just caught up with every other PR when 6 came out

[whole crypt]

8hr face bad

[topaz smelt]

the only 8hrs id take are dr faces

[turbid dawn]

I only take them because I want the uptime while I sleep

[viscid swift]

you shouldn't need them to maintain uptime though while you sleep

[turbid dawn]

Because sometimes I won't be able to get on for like 10hrs+

[meager gyro]

how do i get more fdg prints?

[topaz smelt]

unless you sleep for 16hrs a day no reason to

[whole crypt]

unless you stick around for long enough to finish that third tenrai it's probably easier to just move on and wait for lab, I assume your Hakuryuu is not finished?

[whole crypt]

just take your time and enhance her with coins or the 2 free daily prints

[glacial heath]

haku is dev 29, 40-50 away from dev30 and then approx 250 total including fate sim.

[whole crypt]

catchup already spent?

at those numbers might be easier to just to just leave her at D30 than be in the middle of nowhere for third tenrai and dragging on for Hakuryuu prints with AvP and MP still in pool

[tame jungle]

quick question, DR4 not coinable yet but expected to become coinable with the release of PR7 right?

[whole crypt]

no

[tame jungle]

what's the pattern then?

[whole crypt]

we don't have one yet

[tame jungle]

hmm guess we'll wait and see then

[forest palm]

DRs have been so inconsistent between coin-ability, and whether they get a Fate Sim

[topaz smelt]

depends when the devs feel like it

[viscid swift]

I expect DR4 to get coining with the PR5 PRs in late January next year

[whole crypt]

I wouldn't say it's an issue of whether they get one, but a matter of when

[viscid swift]

based on what happened with FDG, Azuma, and Drake

[uncut oar]

Would you expect agir to get fs anytime soon? Yes ik this'll be speculation

[viscid swift]

I would not expect the next DR fate sim until late next January as well

[whole crypt]

my personal expectation is at latest when they pull entire PR4 off the rotation and put in coin

[tame jungle]

thanks for the insights guys

[uncut oar]

Yeah, figured. Agir's still stronk.

[whole crypt]

but 🔮

[spice phoenix]

what level is safe enough to train on world 12?

[tame jungle]

do you have it on safe already?

[spice phoenix]

not yet

[viscid swift]

get it down to safe first

[spice phoenix]

ok

[forest palm]

you can literally drag a Lv 1 if you wanted

why does this meta fight feel easy

[viscid swift]

well, it is only the first few days still

[craggy lance]

and also because she cant just turn off your guns like rodney iirc

[uncut oar]

Would you just slap agir gun on Brest?

[forest palm]

if the situation calls for it

[uncut oar]

Guam gun is taken by Guam

[calm rose]

if no guam/kron gun? yea

[uncut oar]

I have 1 krongun and it's on Agir but no second krongun

Hiatus moment

[sudden cedar]

Which do i pick

[forest palm]

whoever you like

[whole crypt]

whichever you like

[uncut oar]

Whoever you like, you can get all 3 relatively easily and they're close in performance

[sudden cedar]

Ok

[whole crypt]

at this point there's no stupid invulnerability gimmicks so straight DPS still works

[vale spindle]

you can get the other two easily anyway

[sudden cedar]

Is this game f2p?

[viscid swift]

yes

[sudden cedar]

Nice

[whole crypt]

pay2skin

[uncut oar]

Oathing gives stat boost but a small and usually not noticeable one, free gems are enough to buy most QoL you will need assuming you can resist buying rings and skins

No p2w otherwise only pay to catch up faster

[whole crypt]

actually dock space can start catching up to you if you don't juggle the fodder for a bit

assuming you keep everything

[meager gyro]

how?

[tranquil saffron]

How what

[meager gyro]

how to unlock

[tranquil saffron]

Clear zones

[uncut oar]

Do more zones xd

[meager gyro]

?

[whole crypt]

go secure more zones

[craggy lance]

clear more of the map

(i was being cute with the screenshot lol)

[uncut oar]

I mean it should get the idea across

This guy just ?s very often for whatever reason

[craggy lance]

still was being cute lol

[whole crypt]

I don't think you have the tokens needed for all the stuff anyway

[craggy lance]

i mean i ? sometimes in lieu of a "what?"

[uncut oar]

Yeah but do it too often you look like a league player anyways

[tranquil saffron]

And ask a question not just "how?"
How can mean many things, next time I start teaching you about how some stars become black holes and others don't

[craggy lance]

ping me when you do

[meager gyro]

what you mean secure?

[craggy lance]

beat more zones

[uncut oar]

We literally just said "do more zones"

[meager gyro]

can you teach me?

[tranquil saffron]

Clear all the enemies and collect all the resources

[uncut oar]

@craggy lance as requested

[craggy lance]

[whole crypt]

there are 72 zones on the map
at the start of the month they're all unsecured, denoted by a darker tone
after you beat a zone it become secured and becomes lighter tone, and you can access "secured" version of the map for grinding

[quick mason]

lol

[craggy lance]

also pay2portslot

at least if you're crazy like me

[whole crypt]

so basically, anything on the world map you see that still isn't light blue toned

[meager gyro]

grind what?

[uncut oar]

at least meta ships don't automatically -1 dock

[tranquil saffron]

[craggy lance]

dont worry i budgeted for that during the Great Dock Slot Buying Incident of 2023

[whole crypt]

let's take this one thing at a time
go beat the not-secured zones first and we can discuss grinding secured zones later

[meager gyro]

what can you grind for?

[craggy lance]

the materials you're missing, primarily

[tranquil saffron]

Bro...

[craggy lance]

and meta showdown chips, secondarily

[whole crypt]

nothing that will be better than just clearing unsecured zones first

[uncut oar]

Please read what nnt says, you can ask about that later we'll be here

[tranquil saffron]

.

[craggy lance]

800's been enough for a while

[whole crypt]

it's something we do to waste AP later in the month, for a chance to roll good lab materials and gold plates

remember complaining about strongholds having shit loot? AP burning on secured zones is worse than that, so stop asking about it now

[craggy lance]

also on the subject of 100%ing opsi, is there anything i shouldnt buy from the shops?

[whole crypt]

tuning, purple or lower mats, C2 hidden

[topaz smelt]

adapts if you dont need it

[craggy lance]

gimme the full list, theres some stuff i skip but some stuff that i probably shouldnt buy

[whole crypt]

no need to buy tokens but the rate is neutral if you need more to buy shit

[craggy lance]

i tend to get all the purple tokens, grab the torpedo and reload meta augments, and then go bottom-up on the one with gear lab plans

[whole crypt]

you get enough tokens from beating abyssals and strongholds, but like I said if you want more the voucher conversion rate is neutral

[craggy lance]

but thats while i wasnt 100%ing opsi

[craggy lance]

well what's new in my world is the concept of beating abyssals and strongholds :)

[whole crypt]

nowadays I just don't touch Gibraltar

Liverpool something like this

[topaz smelt]

i still full clear shops

[whole crypt]

NYC only buy coords

[craggy lance]

yeah honestly im doing more breadth than depth on my kansen roster (for obvious, 800-dock-slot-related-reasons) so i havent tinkered with the gear lab in a bit

[whole crypt]

Petersburg avoid repair and purple ordnance

ultimately if you get enough vouchers for next month buying a bit more is fine

[craggy lance]

i think monke brain bought the repairs

[uncut oar]

What do you do for gold plates again? C5 secure?

[craggy lance]

that number is?

[whole crypt]

if everything is cleared C5 cat dive is your only roll for better resources

[uncut oar]

[whole crypt]

either you get plates or materials or another coord

[craggy lance]

what the hell is a c5 cat dive

[uncut oar]

Corrosion 5 cat nodes

[whole crypt]

depends on how much shit you buy from exchange, I actually over-hoard

[craggy lance]

oh meowficcers not akashi

[whole crypt]

if you want to buy this and lazymode your hiddens this is 1k vouchers

[craggy lance]

i just realized, that's supposed to be pronounced "nyafficers", isnt it?

[calm rose]

the auto for hidden sometime misses some loot right?

[uncut oar]

I only do explorables + strongholds atm so ig that's where my gold plates are going, I'll try to work on c5 this month

[whole crypt]

me-officers

[loud rover]

It skips loot that’s blocked by enemies or a lighthouse

[whole crypt]

C5 AP burn is only after all hiddens and abyssals anyway

it skips things it can't path to basically

[uncut oar]

Yeah, I just don't usually have ap left over because I panic run them at the end of the month like a bozo

[craggy lance]

the difference is between "ow-fficers" and "ah-fficers" and the second is a closer pun imo lol

[uncut oar]

[calm rose]

yea i stopped using that thing ever since i saw it missed like 4 boxes

[whole crypt]

I don't use explorable and hidden loggers so yeh

[whole crypt]

well if you want to let it do the thing itself and not look at it for 2 hours or something

I hand clear my C5/6 hiddens and strongholds so

I usually clear one across 1-2 hours because I wait for sub resummon

[meager gyro]

what does this guy do?

[craggy lance]

clears every zone youve ever cleared

it doesnt?

[meager gyro]

should i use it?

[median galleon]

lets you use auto battle on all zones i think

[uncut oar]

Is it at all valid to use baguette for brest aux to fill gear req?

[craggy lance]

oh right it doesnt autoclear it im a dumbass

i skip buying it for one month and look at me lol

[whole crypt]

it upfronts you the repair kits, adaptive tuning scores and ap boxes you would get from clearing all 72 zones
recons all explorable zones
you can move to zones not adjacent to port or cleared zones
it doesn't actually clear or secure the zones

[craggy lance]

anyway some napkin math says that i want to shoot for 10.8k vouchers/month

[whole crypt]

roughly, yeh

[sudden cedar]

Guys do i level up ships through battles or materials?

[whole crypt]

a bit of excess helps for buying the classified loggers

[uncut oar]

Battles but enhancing is important still

[whole crypt]

usually battles for early game

[craggy lance]

thats the 0.8k i believe

[fresh tangle]

So actually getting IB tech doesn’t seem as bad as I thought, nice. FDG will be easier than anticipated wonderful

[uncut oar]

Also saying it upfront rn, dupes are useless other than limit break

[whole crypt]

classified loggers are one time and there are several of them, you only need to buy each one once and clear them when you have time

[sudden cedar]

Is this game rlly f2p?

[craggy lance]

yeah so one a month for the next couple

[uncut oar]

It absolutely is, AL isn't a sprint it's a marathon

[whole crypt]

at this point no
also that oil is going to be better spent grinding in your case

[uncut oar]

Bump

[whole crypt]

define F2P
nothing in the game is specifically locked behind a paywall besides skins

[sudden cedar]

Are the materials for enhancing easy to get?

[craggy lance]

yes

[whole crypt]

if you keep playing yes

[uncut oar]

They're literally just. Grey rarity ships. So yes.

[meager gyro]

now you lost me again

[craggy lance]

just do your dailies and youll be there in due time

[whole crypt]

just don't buy the logger

[sudden cedar]

And can i win any battle using any ships?

[craggy lance]

to an extent

[uncut oar]

If you manual yes

[crimson glacier]

no

[meager gyro]

i still dont know what it even does

[uncut oar]

We generally auto which requires a lot more fleetbuilding

[craggy lance]

this channel can set you up with a pretty solid comp for free

[whole crypt]

it doesn't matter if you don't know what that means, just don't buy it

[sudden cedar]

Oh can u guys make me a formation?

[meager gyro]

i have it already

[whole crypt]

🤦

[craggy lance]

i think all the ships you need in your starter fleet are availible from one or another shop

[topaz smelt]

all it really does is reveals the maps, you still need to clear them all

[sudden cedar]

Changed my mind i have to go sleep

[uncut oar]

There are also permanent ships that are strong enough to compete with gacha ships, and it isn't hard to guarantee pity on every single UR banner @sudden cedar

[meager gyro]

time to do another abyssal i guess

[whole crypt]

please don't...

[median galleon]

I got excess Prototype cores, should i get Plymouth gun or Drake gun? I have neither of those ships

[craggy lance]

you can put gun on other ship

[uncut oar]

Plygun

[viscid swift]

Plymouth gun assuming you got 3 Champaign guns and the Tenrai

[sudden cedar]

Are the first ships u get able to get far in game's progression?

[calm rose]

if you get another zombie one, don't complain

[whole crypt]

why do you insist on doing things you don't know if you can clear, or a fair chance of not clearing at all

[uncut oar]

I thought you need to go sleep, but decently far yes

[craggy lance]

enterprise is usually fairly solid (turns out doubling damage scales reasonably well), and the chat is going to advise you to get the best healer in the game

[viscid swift]

have you uh read the newbie tips?

[sudden cedar]

Ye it didn't rlly make sense for me

[meager gyro]

?

[uncut oar]

Also yes read the newbie tips please a lot of this is answered in that

[whole crypt]

ships recommended in newbie guide and new ship recommendation can last you through midgame

[meager gyro]

idk

[uncut oar]

Then read it again thank you

[craggy lance]

and by then you should have at least one or two URs

[viscid swift]

it literally tells you among other things the best ships to start with and how to get them

[whole crypt]

if you don't know then don't do it

[sudden cedar]

Where can i find it?

[meager gyro]

doing the stronghold version of it rn

[viscid swift]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[meager gyro]

and holy fuck thats annoying that i manually gotta go everywhere

[sudden cedar]

Ok copied the link thanks yall for the help

[whole crypt]

whatever happened to level grinding I told you to do in 11-1

[sudden cedar]

Ima sleep now goodnight

[whole crypt]

most people just take a good fleet and afk auto strongholds, stop complaining about strongholds when you're just not prepared for it and not listening to what we tell you to do to fix it

[uncut oar]

Some people legitimately have advice go in one ear and out the other

[meager gyro]

how can you auto a stronghold?

[calm rose]

nnktt just said, a strong fleet

[uncut oar]

You just. Hit autosearch in stronghold. With a good fleet and ideally crossfleet barrages/buffs.

[whole crypt]

with a fleet that looks like this and properly geared

[meager gyro]

no, nothing is revealed, you manually gotta go to every enemy

[craggy lance]

is there a list of what items convert to vouchers? also good lord i only have 2.7k

[uncut oar]

Recon exists

[calm rose]

use the recon then

[meager gyro]

what now?

[whole crypt]

STOP

[tame jungle]

should be on wiki

[whole crypt]

he shouldn't even be in the stronghold

[uncut oar]

How strong is bearm again?

[tame jungle]

@craggy lance

[calm rose]

sounds like hes already in

[whole crypt]

good fast launcher apparently, I'm just leveling her skills on my rally account there

[uncut oar]

Icic

[whole crypt]

you can leave strongholds, you know

[craggy lance]

i've never seen those arbiter rewards in my life

so the best way to stack vouchers is arbiter grind?

[whole crypt]

my main account's mob fleet looks more like this

[tame jungle]

and just normal opsi coin and tokens at the end

[uncut oar]

Yeah, arbi gives a ton

[craggy lance]

makes sense

[uncut oar]

Harbi gives vouchers too so definitely do that too

Even if you don't fully kill it's worth doing

[meager gyro]

what are even all these ships

[craggy lance]

yeah im working up to it, i think the only time i cleared midatlantic was the first time

[whole crypt]

ships you would have had if you had played the game properly the past 4 years, now go back to grinding XP in 11-1 and stop doing things you can't manage in OS

[uncut oar]

It's almost like level advantage is a thing and nntktt is asking you to grind for a reason or something

[craggy lance]

clockwise from top: unicorn, aquila, hindenburg, harbin, guam, bearn or bearnmet

half of them are mid if im not mistaken (aquila's smile is t0 tho)

[calm rose]

non of them are mid

[craggy lance]

my mistake

[whole crypt]

I would like to know your definition of mid

[tame jungle]

we forgive you this time

[meager gyro]

do high plans also give double xp?

[whole crypt]

yes but they cost twice the oil and morale

[craggy lance]

"i havent seen #gameplay-help worship them"

[uncut oar]

Hindenburg literally top vanguard dps, guam is ur, uni is uni, harbin is one of the top vanguard dps, aquila is good, bearm is good, how are any of them mid

[tame jungle]

don't touch plans yet

[topaz smelt]

unis mid

[meager gyro]

can i use them in opsi?

[whole crypt]

no

[uncut oar]

Uni is flagship so she's mid yes

[craggy lance]

i said half which half i was referring to is an exercise left to the reader

[whole crypt]

are you out of oil again? because if you're out of oil again this is precisely why you shouldn't have bought the logger in OS

[meager gyro]

why? used like 40 of them in my xp grind for avp and anchorage

[uncut oar]

Neither half

[craggy lance]

also im a dumbass talking about shit i dont understand (ill stop doing that)

[whole crypt]

PR grind is easy once you get into pace even without HELPs

[uncut oar]

You don't touch plans because they're more useful in event grind my guy

[whole crypt]

you keep doing things that make it harder for yourself and don't listen, this has been repeated to you for the past 2 weeks

[tame jungle]

even nnt is running out of patience

[uncut oar]

nnt ganbare

[craggy lance]

but yeah sorry again for this lmao

[whole crypt]

I'm not exactly the most patient around here but yeh, I'm hitting the hay

[uncut oar]

Goonight

[tame jungle]

you've been an absolute saint when it comes to this fella

[meager gyro]

sry that i dont know shit about this game

[uncut oar]

Not knowing shit isn't the problem, not knowing shit and then actively going against what vets tell you to do is the problem

[whole crypt]

there's a very stark difference between not knowing and not listening

[uncut oar]

We're teaching you to fish, we can't help you if you insist on snapping the pole in half and starving

[topaz smelt]

just eat the pole

[tame jungle]

delicious and nutritious, full of fiber!

[craggy lance]

-2

(that's a lie, carbon fiber pun is clever, +2)

[uncut oar]

Does mog outtank shimanto?

[crimson rock]

both me and my friend have been wondering for a while, why does indianapolis get put so low in tier lists when they do so well?

[uncut oar]

Indy does not do well lol what content are you doing and what level/lb is indy

[topaz smelt]

cuz early game content is trivial an literally anything will do well

[vivid aspen]

guys, prinz rup or agir, which to build first?

[uncut oar]

Easily agir

Unless you're like actually hurting for bbs for some reason despite having the tech to build agir

[vivid aspen]

i have fdg and new jersey

[uncut oar]

Agir

[crimson rock]

both me and my friend has used then in the previous event, for my friend they were taking MVP from New Jersey at times, at a lower level with worse gear and regularly taking MVP over my full group for me

[uncut oar]

Asking again, what content, what LB and level is indy and nj

Indy does not mvp without something weird going on she literally hits less hard than portland

[crimson rock]

level 40 NJ and level 20 Indi, not limit broken for either

[calm rose]

and if the battle ends too quickly, nj will not get to do any damage

[uncut oar]

Nj is a backline did her barrage even get to fire

[crimson rock]

yes

[uncut oar]

Cap

[calm rose]

since you have not LB indy, its time to drop her for more useful character

[uncut oar]

With a 40% damage advantage just from level nj barrage hitting once will make her do more than indy

[viscid swift]

my dude, with all due respect you're comparing 2 ships which aren't even close to being maxed with other numerous unknown variables

[uncut oar]

Indy is bad, there's reasons why we say she's bad, just drop her

[viscid swift]

the comparison is laughable at best and we know Indianapolis is shit regardless of what you saw and that's why we don't reccomend her

[uncut oar]

She's literally a less tanky portland who does less damage and has less eva and has worse skills when portland's skills are already cope as high hell

She isn't even needed for newbie missions unlike portland

[sweet delta]

+13 guns for both and NJ literally misses her second and third volleys because 🔃

[meager gyro]

that stronghold is annoying me again

[crimson rock]

[calm rose]

my guy, you've been told to NOT do it

[uncut oar]

We already told you to stop doing stronghold

[uncut oar]

I mean what do you want me to say you can look at the stats yourself

Saying indy good just because you like her doesn't magically make her good

[meager gyro]

attempt 12 and it still has 15 health bars

[calm rose]

can you get alil stronger before you attempt it

you're wasting coins to repair which you can use to buy stuff from the shop

[uncut oar]

Saying it again @meager gyro

It's almost like level advantage exists and gear exists and we're telling you to go farm w11 for exp instead for a reason or something

[meager gyro]

and the rewards were mid as shit again

[vale spindle]

You want tuning values of 188/188/144 for the stronghold boss to be on its easiest difficulty

[uncut oar]

They're only mid because of how much time and resource you're spending banging your head against a wall that you're not ready to do efficiently

Strongholds give a bunch of tokens

[meager gyro]

i got 246/246/225

[vale spindle]

[calm rose]

stop buying adapts

[uncut oar]

It's a fleet issue

[meager gyro]

i dont really?

[vale spindle]

good

[grim siren]

Btw is Mogador a Main gun focused DD right?

[meager gyro]

i just buy everything except gibraltar meta shit

[uncut oar]

Don't buy repair kits

[vale spindle]

you dont need to buy the tuning vials anymore as well

[meager gyro]

why? theyre saving a bunch of time

[vale spindle]

and yea dont buy healing items too you get a lot just from clearing the easy zones

[calm rose]

so you bought adapt ._.

[uncut oar]

Because you aren't supposed to need that many because you're supposed to go to w11 and grind for levels like nntktt told you to

I have not used a single healing item in opsi for the last 6 cycles

[vale spindle]

grinding opsi is fine

[meager gyro]

yeah seemed helpful, big number = good right?

[vale spindle]

The maximum effective cap is 203/203/156

[uncut oar]

Sam they literally wiped 12x on the stronghold boss, they're not ready for opsi

[vale spindle]

Any higher is effectively useless since there's not harder content currently

[uncut oar]

At the very least not stronghold

[vale spindle]

so? nothing wrong with grinding opsi

oil and ap are 2 separate resources

use oil for story and ap for opsi

[meager gyro]

i get told to play opsi
i play opsi
its wrong

[vale spindle]

once you run out of one grind the other

[uncut oar]

They're out of oil because they bought the logger that they were being told not to buy

[vale spindle]

logger is fine too

just wait until monday when they get a massive oil influx

like yall are overacting over the small shit

only decision worth overracting for is using gems in bad ways

[uncut oar]

Have you seen the convo earlier between nnt and this guy sam

[meager gyro]

ok so im at 261 261 255 now is that good?

[uncut oar]

No

[calm rose]

why did it increase

[topaz smelt]

Anyone got the stats on the suicides in w15

[vale spindle]

Yes don't go higher theres no point

[primal obsidian]

literally reading issues

[rain vine]

if you wipe on stronghold for the third time, maybe its a suggestion that you shouldnt keep banging your head on a wall

[tame jungle]

do not buy fucking adapts

[uncut oar]

You only need 203/203/156 and sam literally said that earlier

[meager gyro]

used the logger thing, wanted to know what it does

[uncut oar]

12 times*

[cobalt rapids]

Nagamis site does

[rain vine]

if its the 12th time, thats even worse
you should be able to notice an issue by the 3rd failed attempt

[uncut oar]

@meager gyro any adapt above this number is completely useless

[topaz smelt]

Apparently NC can't kill them on 0 ammo

[cobalt rapids]

lol

[vale spindle]

his gear is pretty awful so he needs to grind opsi with his shitty gear to get gear lab mats -> better gear

bad decisions were made in the past so theres no point beating up the dead horse

[meager gyro]

finally someone says it

[rain vine]

that would be the best suggestion
not waste time banging your head against stronghold

[vale spindle]

stronghold is fine

like he has the adapts and banging head is the best way to clear it

[topaz smelt]

if i can kill these suicides i might have an extremely cursed fleet for w15

spoilers || i dropped uni||

[elfin hollow]

Everything you do is cursed wdym

[vale spindle]

his ship choices are fine but if the gear is shit theres nothing he can do

[cobalt rapids]

Norcal flag

[topaz smelt]

this time its beyond cursed

[cobalt rapids]

What auxgun

[topaz smelt]

t137

[cobalt rapids]

Upgrade to ply

[uncut oar]

t137. Wait. Moggun?

[viscid swift]

who have Riceist a license to cook in the first place

[topaz smelt]

sec let me give my nc a ply gun

[tame jungle]

no the dd gun that isn't able to be put onto dds no?

[topaz smelt]

i got to 0 ammo at full hp then insta died to suicides

[cobalt rapids]

Why not if thats the win condition for ur fleet, every1 got 1 ply from proto

[dull saddle]

How good is Dev 30 Harbin? should i FS5 her for her to be good?(at FS3 rn)

[calm rose]

NC is EU isnt it? DD guns no?

[cobalt rapids]

Oh im dumb

[topaz smelt]

also nc heal is pretty cope, it barely procs

[cobalt rapids]

Shes fine at d30

But fs5 her anyway

[topaz smelt]

ima try moggun, might be cuz range is too far

also my nc may or may not be 120

[tame jungle]

he's inting he's trolling

[topaz smelt]

also the new strat im calling is sandy + nc

stack AA tank planes

[cobalt rapids]

U run 0 mainfleet healing ?

[topaz smelt]

aql

[cobalt rapids]

Whose 3rd

[topaz smelt]

indep

still wip

[viscid swift]

is this just for normal clearing?

[topaz smelt]

was gonna take it fc

[cobalt rapids]

lol

[topaz smelt]

do i ever care about normal clear fleets?

w15 too easy for that

[viscid swift]

well....

you would be suprised

[cobalt rapids]

gl beating ooa

[topaz smelt]

just throw subs at it

[cobalt rapids]

Can it do bb nodes on ammo

[topaz smelt]

ye

my usual route is super cv > 3 star bbs > 3 star cvs
no subs ofc and see how well it takes them

[cobalt rapids]

Are u timing shimanto

[topaz smelt]

what shimanto?

[cobalt rapids]

lol

I get tanking planes but how arent u getting shelled to death

[viscid swift]

I'll take a wild guess and say Unzen is in there somewhere

[topaz smelt]

i said this is cursed for a reason

[cobalt rapids]

[topaz smelt]

it pretty much works like the sashi comp on bb nodes

[viscid swift]

literally pulling a CN strat

[topaz smelt]

you never get revealed so nc always gets shot at and healed by aql

except theres noticable performance difference when i do it

[viscid swift]

so you're not feeling the drop if in damage then

[topaz smelt]

theres 2 other dmg cvs for a reason

[viscid swift]

fair enough

[topaz smelt]

i think the fleet heals on bb nodes

[cobalt rapids]

Thats crazy

[topaz smelt]

this is after 2

was at full hp then got burned like 5s before wave ended

[viscid swift]

if I unironically start reccomending north carolina, I'll know who to blame at least

[topaz smelt]

cv nodes are a bit of a struggle for it tho

[cobalt rapids]

The cv pairs are getting full launches off huh

[topaz smelt]

ye

take like 15% dmg total per node

depend on rng

also i hate wyvs they cant hit shit

unironically just might go full breguet

[short wagon]

yo if im palying on bluestacks what phone thing do i choose or does it not matter

[topaz smelt]

doesnt matter

[short wagon]

ai

[cobalt rapids]

Are u running circle on cv nodes ?

[topaz smelt]

double line all the way

[cobalt rapids]

u healing off recon aswell right

[topaz smelt]

not sure lol, havent hit one with ammo yet

i heal off 3* bbs

dd nodes seems to be an issue so far on 0 ammo

ok actually fuck wyvs, im team breguet now

[graceful light]

how are your fleet tech? i'm curious if it matters as much

[topaz smelt]

maxed lol, but im using pretty shit cats

[viscid swift]

might wanna tune down the tech then for future testing

[topaz smelt]

the cats are literally 2 flame

[graceful light]

hmmm ... okay.. guess ill stay in 12-1 forever

[sinful pewter]

Hello everyone, by the way, do you turn circle def on 13H or W14 onwards?

[topaz smelt]

the idea was a decent cat can make up the tech

[viscid swift]

circular formation? double line all the way in W14, W15 it kinda depends

[cobalt rapids]

Circle on 13 is fine but depends, double line on 14

[viscid swift]

yeah but knowing most players both tech and cats will be lacking even by W15

[cobalt rapids]

dont think most players care about lethal fc

[topaz smelt]

ive also gotten tired of adjusting tech

[sinful pewter]

probably gotta try double line, but somehow doubtful

[undone plover]

anyone have the JP/CN research stats? per hour face and gear rate i mean 🙏

[viscid swift]

that is a very valid excuse

[cobalt rapids]

Lyoko ?

[sinful pewter]

my 3CV mob fleet had some difficulty on 13-3H killing 5 hard air formations

[topaz smelt]

this might be a fight 0 ammo bb angle

[undone plover]

no there were screenshots of just the rates I think
neatly written in tables

[viscid swift]

lamo
so are you just full on Breguet > Wyvern for W15 now or is it just this comp

[sinful pewter]

after a couple tries i 3*-d it, but i found my backline taking dmg more than vanguard

[topaz smelt]

seems to be working better

[viscid swift]

it's certainly cheaper

[topaz smelt]

sample size 2

i keep forgetting to setup my justice on boss fleet

[cobalt rapids]

Mby on bili on strategy guide but im on phone so ull have to navigate urself

[sweet delta]

scroll up a few thousand messages in your #algen2 thread here

[midnight bluff]

For OpSi, I need to capture 50 zones in order to buy out the shop from St. Peterburg. Is the shop going to reset within 2 weeks so I have to do it quickly?

[undone plover]

good idea stigma danke schon

[cobalt rapids]

Yes quickly within 2 weeks

[midnight bluff]

By capture, you have to clear out all ships on one zone at a time correct?

[cobalt rapids]

Can be many factors hard to guess but assuming ure not shot by kongo then ur aa is weak so use better fighter better fighter cvs better aa guns or end waves faster

[cobalt rapids]

Make explorable secured

[graceful light]

do you guys actively buy the opsi stats? i usually leave mine alone and only have the day one of the month's map release thingy and have auto build it up

that's the stats of mine after auto clearing everything including c6 zones

[topaz smelt]

if youre low then sure

[viscid swift]

I do but I also like to rush

[graceful light]

what is considered low? anymore ... enough to kill hard mode center boss?

[cobalt rapids]

Below 203/203/156

[graceful light]

okay

typically ignore those stat boosters in the vouchers and opt to buy them in the port shops instead? and occasionally the random cat merch?

[cobalt rapids]

Idk both are vouchers in the end, idk the ratio tho so calc and buy the cheaper ones ig

[topaz smelt]

my team went from taking 10-15% per ship to 0-5% by switching to breguets

[graceful light]

ehh min-maxing here is no gucci... we'll leave it at that then.

[topaz smelt]

how many 0 ammo fights are there in -4?

[graceful light]

i only have one breguet in my depot... are u saying i've been sitting on it like an idiot?! should i have mass produce those babies?!

[topaz smelt]

tests pending

but i have it hard locked on uni for like a year now

[graceful light]

im an investor paying very close attention

[viscid swift]

they're in the core data shop anyway

not like getting a few is that expensive after you've gotten all the initial stuff

[topaz smelt]

have i found reasons to skip wyvs

[graceful light]

exactly... i could've had 6+ for my CVs ... instead of one

[viscid swift]

they were only added just this month

[graceful light]

oh...

[viscid swift]

pending

also that would also mean seeing how it does in W14

[topaz smelt]

i need to go back to my alsace fleet and try full breguets

[graceful light]

well at least i got something to buy in core data shop ... finally

[topaz smelt]

well this fleets a fail, goes really well with ammo fails 0 ammo

[cobalt rapids]

hero to zero

[topaz smelt]

nc cant kill a single suicide

[uncut oar]

Speaking of opsi again, question: what was your fleet like when you started not doing full adapts anymore?

I know I'm close to it because I can semi-consistently full-auto strongholds and 2-fleet arby, but if somebody actually remembers that'd be really nice

[graceful light]

for me... no idea... opsi was like a place to just auto infinitely... i think it was like 2 years ago i stopped caring. for me that is

[shell lantern]

Guys and girls should I max limit break NJ or limit break Alsace to 5 star?

[uncut oar]

ALWAYS prio max LB

[graceful light]

my general mob fleet almost always die in the last boss in stronghold tho.... but that's expected

[uncut oar]

No exceptions ever for the rest of your life, MLB first everything else can wait

[viscid swift]

save your bullins until you can get enough to MLB Alsace

[cobalt rapids]

And dont partial lb stuff anymore

[graceful light]

my opsi mob fleet... collab fleet

[shell lantern]

[uncut oar]

Why ehh, MLB is a large chunk of most ships' damage

[uncut oar]

[cobalt rapids]

Dark mode update when

[viscid swift]

when turtle writes is his OpSi guide

[graceful light]

i think smiler was asking to MLB NJ or alsace first... maybe lack of rainbow bulins?

[shell lantern]

I regret buying the mogador skin instead of alsaces

[uncut oar]

They were asking MLB NJ or 2LB Alsace

The answer is wait and MLB Alsace

[shell lantern]

I need more bulins

[strong tartan]

okay

[uncut oar]

Time issue, wait till next month

[cobalt rapids]

@eager mulch Whats ur opsi guide

[eager mulch]

with my Azur lane (gone)

[cobalt rapids]

No, come back

[eager mulch]

maybe

[graceful light]

i take it you dont have enough specialized cores?

[shell lantern]

yes

[chilly crow]

Any tips foor fleetbuilding for Wichita META's boss battle?

[graceful light]

then simply wait ... just be happy u got alsace unlike some people who were cursed and unable to reach pity

[cobalt rapids]

I think alsace kills her in 1 preload still

[viscid swift]

she does

[uncut oar]

<--- wichita

[graceful light]

wait... where is alsace in the meta botes scale right now?

[cobalt rapids]

On the top floor of ur bb

[graceful light]

did she finally topple rainbow bis?

okay... she will remain level 1

[sweet delta]

[still merlin]

Isn't limit break always good for dmg boost? It's considered an upgrade after all

The only downside I can think of is oil cost increase

Like, should be obvious about why should limit break imo

[uncut oar]

LB is good but a partial LB UR still loses to good MLB SRs

If you aren't MLBing it you may aswell not use it and if you aren't using it why LB

Therefore, always MLB and not partial LB

[still merlin]

In other word, if you not using the ship then better not limit break it?

[viscid swift]

you would be suprised as to how many don't understand how significant it is and just put it off for one reason or another

that's why I ended writing all that in the first place