gameplay-help

[hard mesa]

Enterprise with yorkii also can do it

[static harbor]

So its Alsace for Light and Soyuz for medium?

[unreal bloom]

Enlighten me sir

[sturdy badger]

Aight, who should I pick?

[patent pivot]

Requires more details, for what stuff are you talking about?

[static harbor]

Light and Medium bosses in general

[gray sphinx]

san diego or enterprise. choose your pick

[patent pivot]

How long are the fights?

[exotic wren]

Enty>Hood>Sandy>Lusty pretty sure

[sturdy badger]

Ah, crap. It's the blue pill or the red pill situation again

[gray sphinx]

hood is alr but she gets powercrept as you construct more. I always find myself still using enterprise and san diego to this day

[patent pivot]

Also depends on your other UR BBs

[unreal bloom]

Ok, last question for today: where can i get more rainbow gear blueprints for the gear lab outside opsi shop?

[mint flint]

you dont really use san diego until like w13 though

[late flame]

+sandy is expensive especially so with her augment now

[tiny gulch]

she's one of the strongest vanguards now with her augment for any world

[heady pier]

should i get u37 from here? since i think she was a good sub

[hard mesa]

Peter has skill to reduce 1st 3 airstrike cooldown by 10% if there are 4 ib ship. For gear use saiun torp bomber and bf-109g fighter(pirate if heavy armor) and use beacon aux. You still need good rld from tech/cat to pull if you want lower than 20s@unreal bloom

[gray sphinx]

I was about to say that but you can still use her outside of it. It's not like she's useless outside of it. Think of it as an investment. Also I would prefer enterprise over san diego just because of the sheer cost for a newer players so yes enty over san diego but it's still a viable pick imo if that's how they wanna roll

[mental marlin]

cant i use leveld up bullins to limit break my units???

[mint flint]

you can use any ship anywhere but sandy is just expensive and not really the best ship for the job outside of plane heavy worlds

[wind hazel]

you can

[heady pier]

top right there is locked and leveled up thing

[mint flint]

click the lvl>1 eye button top right

[mental marlin]

ahh i had to uncheck a filter, i was about to fume lol

thanks

[wind hazel]

sure, if you need subs

[mint flint]

shes good with wolfpack so try to assemble those subs if you get her

[heady pier]

this is my subs i was thinking u96 u410 and u37

[static harbor]

Uhhh, less than 20 seconds I guess?

[gray sphinx]

when you're a new player you don't look for the "best" ship because you don't have the best ships which is why I also noted it as a future investment for them. The sooner they have that ship used the sooner they have them ready. Also if they're newer there's again no point in running the "optimal" ships. You just run what you wanna run lol

[static harbor]

I have all UR BB's

[unreal bloom]

Ok thanks. Any tip to make helena not die in the middle slot with evasion, faster than the othert 2 slots in the vanguard?

[patent pivot]

<20? META fights are 87s iirc and harby is about the same

[heady pier]

whats wolfpack

[static harbor]

Oh let's go with that time then

[patent pivot]

If it's that short then alsace 100% for any armor

[static harbor]

Meta and Arbys

[patent pivot]

Assuming perfect gear anti med BB is Vanvuard/BiZ/alsace/gayir/hinde/ply

[mint flint]

they're certain subs. check here https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/ss

[patent pivot]

If you don't have a hinde done then soy/BiZ/alsace

[heady pier]

ahhh ok so i can do u96 u410 and u37 since i only have 4 subs now

[static harbor]

Gayir?

[mint flint]

yeah and if you can get u-81 at some point to swap out u-410 you'll have one of the top sub fleets

[patent pivot]

For antilight it's Vanguard/BiZ/alsace/gayir/hinde/ply, even with nonmaxed hinde just tag her out for some other dps

[heady pier]

is there an easy way to level up subs? just dorm?

[gray sphinx]

books

[mint flint]

dorm and xp packs. sub grind is just slow in general

[static harbor]

Agir?

[patent pivot]

Maybe Kevin fits in there but I'm not positive

Oh yeah sorry, gayir = agir

[static harbor]

Hinde replaces Helena?

[vocal sigil]

between kazagumo, sirius and bellona who do I pick as a support for an opsi cv fleet? main fleet is indep/enty/shinano

[late flame]

tank+kaza+sirius

[vocal sigil]

thanks

[patent pivot]

If you want Helena in there then swap hinde, but fuck helena

[static harbor]

My Hind is 100 prints from being done

[gray sphinx]

I was referred to use both kazagumo and sirius on the same fleet. Could be different for you tho since my main fleet consists of shinano/implacable/enterprise

[unkempt mirage]

if you happen to be using a lot of converging torps, isnt mogador debuff pretty okay for cvs

[patent pivot]

Then yeah soy/biz/alsace for med and Vanguard instead of soy for light

[static harbor]

And Heavy will be Musa/Vanny/Zwei2?

[patent pivot]

Heavy should be mash/Vanguard/Alsace but testing is going on as we speak on that

[static harbor]

Aight, thanks

While we're at it, is Mogador stronger than the DDG's vs. Light?

[patent pivot]

Just remember that alsace's lead drops off with time and soy starts to win past 100s

[static harbor]

Well outside of fleet tech abuse, I have all the OP gear

So I'm fine on that end, too lazy for tech leveling

[patent pivot]

Also fleets with alsace in them have funny BB gun setups so you'll need those +13 as well

[gray sphinx]

how many high efficiency books do you guys usually save for events?

[patent pivot]

Soygun BiZ, champgun Vanguard, flangun Alsace, and I believe it's champgun soy

[exotic wren]

....mash?

[unreal bloom]

Anybody has some free time for a talk on fleetbuilding?

[patent pivot]

Musashi

[exotic wren]

Sure just create a thread

[cobalt rapids]

open thread and for what content

[gray sphinx]

time to burn through all 80 of them then ig

[tiny gulch]

i only have one set of rainbow torps, which of these 3 should get them? i-58 and i-19 both have their augments

the other 2 will get bidder

[cobalt rapids]

save em for when ure short on time imo

[mint flint]

its generally better to give pressure hull and snorkel to subs

[cobalt rapids]

thats all they do

[unreal bloom]

Opsi fleets

[tiny gulch]

I’m talkin about rainbow sub torps, not oxytorp

[gray sphinx]

hmmm fair point

[hard mesa]

Flagships should get rainbow

[wanton smelt]

1. Who should I put in the last slot: Inplacable, 2 UR IJN carriers, Kazagumo, Unzen. Except Helena, Plymore and Agir because they are busy.

2. Should I switch to the USS carriers fleet instead of IJN?

[wind hazel]

Guam would be nice

[exotic wren]

Guam, Ancho, Brest if the boss doesn't have anything against heals

actually are Brest's heals impactful enough to affect boss fights in both ways?

[hushed aurora]

Is it worth it to focus on a ship here?

[inland shoal]

Choose PR4 there

As far as ships go idk what the recommended catch up order is anymore, Anchor first? From PR4 as well

[exotic wren]

i think she fell of the prio since coinable? Or maybe still needed fast enough

[hushed aurora]

and is it worth it to spend coins in research. Currently I am only trying to get better gear but all my ships are almost 120 or higher so I currently dont know what to do with the coins

[tiny gulch]

anyone been messing with izumo aug?

been super impressed with her damage vs. heavy but haven't tested her against other armor types just yet

bodes well for my bbgirl Ibuki getting a busted aug at some point

[wary timber]

Which is better ? Flapjack or Tigercat ? I'm talking generic use for both CVLs and CVs

Or are they so similar that it don't matter?

[hard mesa]

Flapjack has better AA, other than that both are similiar

[steel jacinth]

anyone know what loadout i copy/use for alsace and mogador?

[wary timber]

Hmm thanks. But is the Flapjack always the recommended plane for a fighter slot

[soft raft]

Typical BB gear and typical DD gear respectively, although with a higher emphasis on the new UR DD gun for Mogador for her French gear req

[soft raft]

Eh
Overall you could prob get away with using it for a majority of content but it's not a high prio to urgently craft or anything like that

[ripe bluff]

should I use a fast reload gun on Alsace for barrage spam or slow reload to abuse preload

[wary timber]

Unlike stuff like a Wyvern I guess ?

[cobalt rapids]

use good guns

[cobalt rapids]

theres no universal plane

[ripe bluff]

...like?

[late flame]

gear loadouts depends on what you are fighting

[cobalt rapids]

like picking the right guns depending on what ure fighting

[patent pivot]

Use a gun to get her in the right sync order doesn't matter in mobs

[ripe bluff]

I use her for mobbing in opsi and campaign

[cobalt rapids]

457

[ripe bluff]

ah great still working on that pretty far from getting it
anything cheaper?

[cobalt rapids]

where in campaign are u mobbing

[ripe bluff]

world 13

[cobalt rapids]

mk6

[faint jacinth]

is neptune good? i just finished her pr ship

[cobalt rapids]

not

[late flame]

nope

[faint jacinth]

i forgot that i did her pr ship when i quit al for 7 yrs

[faint jacinth]

i see ty

[ripe bluff]

kearsarge gun?

[cobalt rapids]

purple mk6

[faint jacinth]

im building rn on pr ship is brest. she is good right?

[cobalt rapids]

shes good but ships at d0 arent good

[soft raft]

406 Mk6
Kear gun is basically a HE and American Yamato gun

[soft raft]

She's good but have you done FdG, all of PR4, and Plymouth first?

[faint jacinth]

not unlocked

[soft raft]

Do all of those first then before you do Brest

[wary timber]

Huh that reminds me to keep tabs on my Agir research

[faint jacinth]

okok

[ripe bluff]

Can you pick one already in my depot

[cobalt rapids]

the one on tirpitz

[ripe bluff]

Dont think I have a mk6 atm

oh that is the mk6
Im smart

[late flame]

beehive..

[ripe bluff]

funny

[obtuse knoll]

confetti gun, nice

[wary timber]

My Bismarck and Tirpitz are still using those dual 380mm guns. I have a lack of mk6 guns now

[late flame]

no seriously ditch that confetti gun
https://imgur.com/a/samheart564s-gameplay-help-picture-guides-fyi-this-is-album-of-various-guides-updated-march-28th-2024-use-website-up-to-date-images-YoxqS7A

[exotic wren]

Isn't that KGV gun shit on anyone else except her?

[wary timber]

Yea the type 3 shell sucks big time

[late flame]

kgv gun

[uneven badger]

should i use warspite on boss fleet or mob fleet

[wary timber]

I only kept mine cuz it was an event reward long ago

Warspite is for boss fleets

[uneven badger]

alright

[uneven badger]

that fire rate is goddamn slow

[wary timber]

At least give her a MK6 or a MK7 if u have them

[steel jacinth]

secondary cl gun for alsace right? not dd?

[south sequoia]

Its to be expected from a quad

[wary timber]

It's shelling damage isn't great too. Considering that the quad is literally 356mm

[soft raft]

No I'm saying typical BB gear in regards to Alsace and typical DD gear (and cont.) in regards to Mogador

BBs don't want DD Secondaries if they can help it

[wary timber]

MOST BBs don't benefit from DD secondaries it seems

But if you're using some BBs like NJ and Georgia then certain DD guns work

[steady beacon]

That's because they physically can't carry CL guns

[wary timber]

Yea

I really should consider saving my resources for a twin 137mm at this point

[dawn hamlet]

Hi any recommendation on which ship META from the dossier I should go?

[whole crypt]

sup moggies

[hollow gust]

Get your favorite one

None of them are game changing

[obtuse knoll]

is shinano hakuryuu with soyuz good for w15 boss? didn't have any of the backlines in /w15 recommendation fleets

[dawn hamlet]

I see Thanks!

[gentle gale]

U-subs useable as an alternative to USS subss for w15 or no?

[cobalt rapids]

you dont have indep ?
but yes nano and haku are good

[obtuse knoll]

no yorktown ii tho

[soft raft]

The top wolfpack and top Fishpack are very close to eachother

[frank pulsar]

wolfpack only marginally behind fishpack, just use them if you already invested in them

[obtuse knoll]

also haven't bought indep

[obtuse knoll]

how is nano haku soyuz compared to the recommended on /w15?

[cobalt rapids]

soyuz is sameish to alsace but nano haku are slightly worse than yk2 indep

[hollow gust]

Eagle babyyy

[fresh tangle]

Too busy buying black and white shells to get independence

[obtuse knoll]

thinking to run alsace for the mobbing with unicorn and volga.. or should I use fdg

[cobalt rapids]

not fdg

[hollow gust]

Fdg went from top to bottom choice in a single chapter

[cobalt rapids]

id prob take soyuz vs alsace on mob but they should be about the same

[hollow gust]

Alcase best bosser for w15?

[cobalt rapids]

eh they are about the same

[hollow gust]

What's the comp now ?

[undone plover]

Alsace probably helps your vanguard survive better since her preload makes the fight faster

[obtuse knoll]

I think alsace need to be used with french vanguard?

[cobalt rapids]

sushis latest 3* lethal for 15-4

[silver lintel]

Laffii required lol

[cobalt rapids]

1st wave is not dangerous

[hollow gust]

I thought u said independence and Yorky ?

[cobalt rapids]

thats for clear fleets

[glacial heath]

when it comes to getting experience for research ship,s can I still just run a lvl 125 of the correct faction and positin in fleet repeatly and still get xp for the combat data collection?

[silver lintel]

Also mushashi

[cobalt rapids]

lethal 3* only fights 2nd boss so its crossfleet stack

@hollow gust clear fleets where mob fights only 2nd boss instead

[hollow gust]

So mob fights the first boss eh?

[undone plover]

Why anchorage over brest? less rng?

[cobalt rapids]

first + last boss

[hollow gust]

Easy enough

[cobalt rapids]

better for single fight

altho shes interchangeable in this case

[obtuse knoll]

who do I swap for jeanne since I'm not using alsace on bossing

[soft raft]

You dont

[obtuse knoll]

what's her function

[cobalt rapids]

jda has nothing to do with alsace
shes there for consistent vang surv

[undone plover]

Whats the function of flap + tigercat mix on ykii?

[soft raft]

Prob staggered inceptions

[cobalt rapids]

prob sushi decided 5 flaps is 2 expensive for clear fleets

[obtuse knoll]

shit, haven't got jeanne.. guess I'm using st.louis

[undone plover]

Doesnt sound like sushi

[soft raft]

Huh no the fuck

[obtuse knoll]

lol

[cobalt rapids]

st louis isnt doing anything similar

[undone plover]

JdA is in war archive

[soft raft]

Just go grind Skybound D3 or buy her from merit shop

[undone plover]

She is not in medal shop

[obtuse knoll]

yeah who would you recommend for jeanne side grade since I'm not building her

[undone plover]

Not in merit either

[soft raft]

There are really no JdA sidegrades

[cobalt rapids]

/w15 consult the tl or open thread here

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PHOpBGltnFNemxxsATJ-Qx-buk4HSh1jnIYFeK9EqhI/edit?usp=sharing

[undone plover]

Prolly anchorage is closest to her function no?

[obtuse knoll]

I mean san diego can solo with her augment

[soft raft]

Huh
Coulda swore she was in there, that's crazy

[undone plover]

Yeah she is like the only WA ship not in merit shop

[soft raft]

Wild

[undone plover]

Does drop from light pool though so u could get lucky with dailies

[plain saffron]

mandela effect going strong this time

[cobalt rapids]

mby, harbin aswell but quite far from jdas consistency as far as other vang lifesupport goes

[obtuse knoll]

how about mainz

[soft raft]

She's just a relatively more bulky DPS CL

[undone plover]

I am hearing a lot of good things about harbin these days. Makes me happy.
I never knew she was plymouth dps level

[cobalt rapids]

random ships wont get us anywhere so please do this

[obtuse knoll]

okay I think w15 will be easier though since sandy got her cracked augment

[hollow gust]

It doesn't change anything

[undone plover]

Just wait for more powercreep

[hollow gust]

Once you start making compromises and fleet changes, your consistency plummets

[forest palm]

the best kind of power creep would be another level cap increase

[glacial heath]

/w14

[silver lintel]

Laffi and musashi

[cobalt rapids]

we dont have a guide for w14 so if u want open a thread and post ur dock

[forest palm]

14 fleets kind of basic

[strange sphinx]

hmmm what's the second best dd gun for sandy? did it change or it still the morg gun?

[forest palm]

it'd be Twin 114

[strange sphinx]

the the KMS dd gun?

[forest palm]

you want to proc her AoA as much as possible, you could use the Twin 138.6, but it's not a proc gun like the Twin 100 Kai, or Twin 114

[ripe bluff]

which torp bomber was the one that could intercept enemy planes again

[cobalt rapids]

wyvern and breguette

[forest palm]

it's British

probably more expensive than it's worth making if you don't have prints for it already, and if you're 138.6 is dedicated elsewhere may as well use a Twin 130

[strange sphinx]

same as before but gonna ask again

[heady pier]

Hello is there someone can help me pretty much everything about the game in thread? i have lots of questions and need some guidance on what to do because i still dont got clue what route i should go for

[forest palm]

from best to weakest options you can get, the poverty line can go further than this

[soft raft]

Here read this first https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

Then come back if you have any further questions or need things explained in more detail

[heady pier]

i have actually read about this and i think i already got above this point but since i dropped the game and returned i have other questions if you dont mind me askin

[strange sphinx]

~~My Quadruple Mag torps are on shimakaze so gonna stick with White torp first ~~

[forest palm]

that's fine

[soft raft]

Sure

[wanton smelt]

My BB fleet is Biz, Soyu, Van, Agir, Helena, Ply. I want to replace Helena due to her rng nature. Who should I use instead? Either a buffer or dps are fine as long as I get good result.

[forest palm]

it'd have to be something like Hindenburg, or Unzen

[heady pier]

Hello is there someone can help me

[forest palm]

hard to compete with Helena's skill

[undone plover]

Aurora vs light armor dd/cl
But fr not many bb buffers. Probably run unzen/hindenburg or any high dps ship u have.

[wanton smelt]

Shimakaze?

[whole crypt]

has anyone bothered changing comps for Wichita yet

[forest palm]

that's probably worse

[noble tulip]

triple rainbow bb + agir/hinden/ply will deal with pretty much anything in the game

[forest palm]

unless you plan to manual with Shimakaze, her damage output isn't going to outpace Helena RDPS

[whole crypt]

not if you use spoot

[undone plover]

Ddg probably more consistent than shimakaze right?

[forest palm]

considering how missiles work, ya

[noble tulip]

you'd run ddg on light, shima is meant for heavy anw

[gray sphinx]

Sounds like a job for Musashi/Vanguard/Zwei

[noble tulip]

That's probably the most consistent across all armor types but you'd replace musashi for soyuz/alsace for medium/light respectively if you want the "best" fleets

[forest palm]

though really if you're making opsi fleets just turn your mob fleet into an omni fleet if you have all the toys

outside of arbiter I haven't used more than one fleet to deal with ops content

[fresh tangle]

I am still getting independence right? Been busy buying black and white shells but think it’s time.

[cobalt rapids]

when u got 3 shell pairs

[strange sphinx]

I mean all Torp based ships are heavy unless

[odd flare]

wat is a good KMS team to use in pvp ? Should i ask this in the pvp channel as well?

[forest palm]

should be fine, independence has relevance late game either way

[soft raft]

#pvp is that way

[fresh tangle]

Ah alright. I’ve got 2 white and a black atm

[south sequoia]

#pvp will handle you

[odd flare]

thank u

[fresh tangle]

Turns out you can get shells from tech boxes

[wanton smelt]

What is Laff-2's role?

[gray sphinx]

Wait 3? Did I over buy them. I have like 4 pairs 💀

[forest palm]

not really

[undone plover]

They are not the best shells though
U want 3 pairs of the white and black shells in the core shop
U cant get those anywhere else

[fresh tangle]

I’ve literally got a shell from a tech box this week

[south sequoia]

Jack of all trades

[undone plover]

Show me

[knotty dome]

3 pairs is just minimum, more is fine

[forest palm]

it's more like at most you'll only need 3 pairs, you can want more, and there's no harm in that, but Core Data is limited

[fresh tangle]

How can I show you where I got the drop 😂

[noble tulip]

all rounder with especially good tankiness (rivals the cbs) and good aa

[south sequoia]

Good dps (But not top)
Great tanking
Great AA (but not at the very top)

[undone plover]

I mean show me which shell u got

[wanton smelt]

Why not use white shell + fcr instead? Save a lot of core data buying black shell.

[south sequoia]

Well the game doesnt hand out FCR that easily.

[undone plover]

To be fair you do run that in most content but the black shell is still very useful

[south sequoia]

It takes quite awhile to rack up 1 copy of fcr let alone 3

[gray sphinx]

I mean I guess I do need to buy an extra rocket for my An Shan

[fresh tangle]

Sorry I’m stupid 😂

[gray sphinx]

You want the gold ones stop upgrading those to +10 it’s a waste of mats

[south sequoia]

By the time you have 1 - 2 FCRs you should have like 2 - 3 black shells by then

[frank pulsar]

+10 is cheap, its only really a waste if youre spending gold plates on meh stuff

[undone plover]

It is a fine transitional dw
But purple aux plates are used a lot so dont do any more

[fresh tangle]

Alright I’ll keep my purples. I’ve got one gold rarity black shell

10-13 is wild 😂

[gray sphinx]

Exactly why I +6 and then leave it alone lol. I am very low on aux plates compared to other plates rn

[frank pulsar]

yea thats normal

[undone plover]

Just dont forget to use your selector purple plates if u need em urgently.
Most ppl forget

[frank pulsar]

aux plates and plane plates run out the fastest

[gray sphinx]

Probably a little bit of a me issue too ngl. I think I have 18 gold catapults at +10

[fresh tangle]

Yeah I mean I’m just finishing W10 and it’s comically easy atm

[gray sphinx]

Hey I didn’t want to keep switching gear in opsi okay

[tired condor]

are these coordinate things worth it

[frank pulsar]

action points and ordnance report are worth too

[fresh tangle]

I was grinding the Alsace event so got a lot of levels. Before the event w9 was tricky now w10 is too easy

[gray sphinx]

W12 is mainly the first gate where you hit a small wall

[fresh tangle]

W11 is a good place to farm exp isn’t it? Just trying to think when I’ll get access to anchorage

[frank pulsar]

w11 farming is a trap, if you want exp do 12-1

[undone plover]

Get everything. This way when the shop resets in 3 days u have a higher chance of getting the good stuff.

[gray sphinx]

It’s meh but W12 is best when you’ve settled in and get them to safe

[tired condor]

I need more ways to turn supply coin to the purple coin

[fresh tangle]

Alright cool w12 it is. Should finish 10 tonight tbh but only got 1500 oil atm and morale to consider. Start needing 40/45 escorts per map 😂

[frank pulsar]

do more stronghold for purple token

[knotty dome]

wait didnt they make it so shops dont refresh and u can just buy everything after doing enough zones?

[inland shoal]

Unless you are before your first reset yes

[undone plover]

Yeah but that is after you unlock reset and not on your first month

[knotty dome]

oooooh i see. thanks

[gray sphinx]

If you’re pretty casual with it or take a break from the game like I did you end up with 88k oil in reserves from just maintenance mail

[inland shoal]

Rookie numbers

[undone plover]

Wait so inactive players still get maint mail?

[inland shoal]

Only for some period of time iirc

[gray sphinx]

Hey I’ve only been playing for two years with a few breaks inbetween alr

88k oil is enough to last me for awhile

[kind slate]

what are some good low rarity ships which i could use for first clear event stages? like ones with low oil.

[heady pier]

can someone help me with this?

[ripe bluff]

should I invest in VH armour for Ryuuhou

[forest palm]

nope

[ripe bluff]

nvm you cant put it on CVLs

[forest palm]

[ripe bluff]

guess Ill use celestial body or something

[whole crypt]

the only ships that should ever use VH are CBs, and it's somewhat situational

you shouldn't need durability aux on your CVLs

[whole crypt]

if you're taking too much damage on your main fleet you should review what's causing that damage and solve that, not try to give your main fleet more HP

[forest palm]

oh, right is there any value to the feather these days

[whole crypt]

same cope as it was back then

[forest palm]

checks out

[whole crypt]

I'm just buying one so that I don't have anything outstanding in limited shop

[ripe bluff]

Im building Ryuuhou and her healing is based on her own HP so I'm trying to maximize that

[whole crypt]

that's extremely cope

[undone plover]

The typical low oil fleet used is 0 lb cassin/downes with a cvl
Costs u 4 oil and u grind b1 with it

U can get it down to 3 oil using a cvl that is lower than 35 level I think but then u need to rotate them out since they get xp which is a hassle

Put crossfleet in other fleet for faster grind and to make sure they dont die

[whole crypt]

Ryuuhou has around 5k HP at cap, giving her a 500HP aux is increasing her heal by like... 10% and dropping around 20-30% damage

[wild oyster]

where can I get this plane

[viscid swift]

tech boxes

[whole crypt]

blue or purple KMS boxes

[wild oyster]

thanks

[ripe bluff]

do I use steam pults then or what

homing beacon?

[whole crypt]

beacon is for timing

[icy mountain]

is wichita meta kinda good?

or just dodoo

[kind slate]

is it good to use a cl like ranger? im thinking of raising to like 100+?

[undone plover]

Ranger is fine
Keep her at lb0 level 70
No need to go beyond that
If u are going to low cost farm then u generally do it on b1 and level 70 ranger is fine for that

[whole crypt]

don't bother with low cost memes before you know what you're doing with it
raising Ranger to 120 is still tech

seriously low cost B1 doesn't use lv70 CVLs anyway

[eager mulch]

low costing in 2024?

[whole crypt]

grey plate cope

[gray sphinx]

Are we talking about oil cost? Cuz I don’t watch that shit at all lol

[whole crypt]

but seriously it's just time consuming, you actually save enough oil with 3-oil B1 to spend back in 12

[novel condor]

who does low cost farming these days

[gray sphinx]

Way too time consuming for my taste. Esp when I gotta research farm and level 1000 ships

Plus we got oil cap

[viscid swift]

well the whole point is to aid in maxing ships if anything

[novel condor]

mori stop pointing at me, I never do em

[whole crypt]

the point is D3 is less (oil) efficient if you bother pulling it off

D3 also doesn't drop chips for the lategame chip drought folks

[gray sphinx]

I mean if you mean for events I do 2x2 for the morale and not the cost

[wind hazel]

huh

[gray sphinx]

Morale runs out quick when you’re using the x2 books

[wind hazel]

why 2:2 though

[gray sphinx]

So I can rotate more and more ships

[wind hazel]

sounds very inefficient

[viscid swift]

always better to focus on one maxing one fleet of 6 ships at a time rather

[gray sphinx]

Nah it just means I can farm for forever and I save 2 ships when I rotate the ones who are tired

[whole crypt]

6 dorm slots with 2 floors and I never use HELPs

[gray sphinx]

I end up needing more than the 12 slots they give us lol

[whole crypt]

for B1 grind I only use 2 slots for Cassin and Downes

[astral turret]

Help with 14-4 fleets please!

[meager gyro]

is this good?

[tame jungle]

Stop trolling in gph

[meager gyro]

im not trolling

[wispy pendant]

there is a gear guide for you, everything that isn't on the guide is not good, and don't ask about it

[glacial heath]

14-3 need help with fleet comp

[dry terrace]

hello, I have this things in my inventory and I have no idea how to open them or how to use them

[keen sable]

Reminders of your life decisions

[wispy pendant]

they are permanent momentos, you don't get rid of them or use them

[dry terrace]

ah alright, thanks

[tired condor]

wheres the mission hub in opsi

[wispy pendant]

do you mean the daily mission button on the map screen, or the "mission hub" part of the "information" button inside of a level?

[tired condor]

it was the latter thanks

[dawn hamlet]

Hi I don't really enjoy some mission on OPSI like ice puzzle, is there some walkthrough?

[tired condor]

this stronghold boss does so much damage straight burning all my heals

[tame jungle]

Do you have all necessary adapts

I think it’s 188/188/144 but you should check wiki just in case

[tired condor]

nah

[tame jungle]

Ok sorry

[wind hazel]

just mess up long enough, TB will come and rescue you

[tame jungle]

Or solve them like a real gamer

[wanton smelt]

My CV fleet is 2 IJN UR, Implacable, Laff-2, Kazagumo and Unzen. I am a bit worry about Laff-2, whether she is tanky enough to survive hard contents like Opsi Stronghold, Meta and Arbiter Hard? She is the front tank

[tame jungle]

They’re just 1 time only so it’s over soon enough

[dawn hamlet]

forgot about it, thanks

[steady beacon]

As long as she is geared appropriately, she will almost always (up to the whims of RNG) be fine

[wanton smelt]

I gave her 2 hp gears, one of which is the USS Elite Damage Control just to be sure.

[craggy lance]

ok so im missing lutzow and im low on cubes, how do i go about getting her smartly? should i stockpile oil?

[viscid swift]

I would just run Guam at that point

[viscid swift]

Lutzow is build only and remember you get 32 build tickets

[craggy lance]

yeah

is that including shop tickets?

[viscid swift]

yes

[craggy lance]

ok

[steady beacon]

Strength can glare all she wants, if Laffey can live to 00:28 about 90% of the time against her, I'm not going to demand more...

[craggy lance]

so spend the oil on campaign then?

[viscid swift]

as opposed to not using it and let the canteen back up yes

[craggy lance]

im not gonna farm coins optimally because im gonna try for a map drop in 12-3 but ill live

need a junyou for the collection

[eager mulch]

[novel condor]

🐢

[gray sphinx]

I mean she’s a rare ship so it shouldn’t take too long

[craggy lance]

junyou is blue but yeah
oh right that is rare

[gray sphinx]

Blue = rare rarity

[craggy lance]

brain like pretty colors

[lament cave]

are the 2 new gold gear lab gear anygood?

[atomic abyss]

the tldr is no

the single 113 is a blue 76 side grade

a very expensive one

[atomic spoke]

who do i max next

[atomic abyss]

alsace because she's closest to mlb

[sharp token]

thoughts about this?

[atomic abyss]

meh

[wispy pendant]

it's a niche pvp item, probably don't need more than one

[fresh tangle]

How do you see a data tower scanning radius in opsi?

[wispy pendant]

basically a little more survive, but less avi than catapult @sharp token

[wispy pendant]

i'm not sure what you're referring to... are you talking about the story missions where they are looking for you, their field of vision is in red

i hardly remember that, so long ago, it's a once and done mission

[fresh tangle]

Yeah

[wispy pendant]

I actually liked those things.

[tame jungle]

Pretty sure it goes right to the map edge given there’s no obstacles

[wispy pendant]

obstacles block it, so you can hide behind them

[keen sable]

Red touch jack, get sent back

[sharp token]

what does speed do to main fleet though? is it connected to evation?

[fossil zealot]

If I marry Prinz Eugen U, will he give me his outh skin?

[fresh tangle]

It does I discovered the hard way

[wispy pendant]

speed I think relates maybe to distance traveled in maps, but also to how fast your vanguard literally moves on the screen, and faster even on auto usually means hit less.

[sharp token]

so main fleet moves?

[wispy pendant]

no, vanguard, i'm pretty sure I said that

[atomic abyss]

average fleet speed affects tile movement in event maps before clearing mode

it has no affect on the backline otherwise

[wispy pendant]

the game uses your fleets "avg" speed to set vanguard screen movement speed

[graceful light]

are fire suppressant even useful at endgame anymore? I remember reading somewhere that the fire suppressant is a rare blue equip... can i uuga bunga with UR fleets through burn status?

[wispy pendant]

the answer is mostly yes, fire extinguisher isn't used much, but there are times maybe it's used on certain ships if they are getting burned.

[atomic abyss]

fire suppressors might be useful in w14 to make up for other gear disparities

[graceful light]

alright.. ill continue holding on to it incase that situation arises

[digital venture]

should I MLB Alsace, Mogador, or Kronshtadt

[sleek vault]

In W15 support fleet, does +13 Steam Catapult AVI increase the Anti Air damage?

[atomic abyss]

alsace for sure

[inland shoal]

It does but 🤏

[wispy pendant]

anyone have the list of ships that benefit most from the new gear lab pew pew barrage DD gun over just using the blue gun? I think the list was very short, and really only had a few elite ships, right?

asking for my guildie

[forest palm]

would kind of like to see someone's benchmarking on stat break points to actually see if there's value, but I don't think anyone has made such a thing

[tame jungle]

Kazagumo kawakaze shimakaze and ayanami?

[graceful light]

does samhart do that kind of calculations?

[wispy pendant]

I'm pretty sure they all get 1% or less benefit, I thought it was for more gun focused barrage ships

[tame jungle]

Or maybe i’m stupid i think scylla

[wispy pendant]

I'm pretty sure most "gun focused barrage" ships would prefer the 100mm kai UR gun

[forest palm]

that's if they actually have a good MGM Slot

[wispy pendant]

So the question is, who would see a 5 or more percent more damage from upgrading from blue to gold, but who would prefer one of these instead of the UR 100mmkai gun?

is the answer "nobody?"

[atomic abyss]

my honest answer
practically nobody

[gray sphinx]

I mean there are exceptions to the blue gear

[sweet delta]

5%? that would require the siren killer to take full affect, and nobody cares about minmaxing opsi or +13ing this gun

[wispy pendant]

i'm specifically talking about DD barrage ships

[atomic abyss]

the only good thing about the 113 is that very slightly longer range means it may fire when the 76 doesn't due to auto rng

but it is slower and way more expensive to craft

[forest palm]

113 may cause proc's to happen too early though, which can hurt...

[atomic abyss]

so the DDs + Scylla that were already using 76 can stick with the 76

[forest palm]

the 113 is honestly an upgrade, because what I stated can happen with the 76, I think it's just simpler to stick with the 76 though

[wispy pendant]

scylla on the ectl has these recommended, is the 76 better than the 100mmkai?

[light trail]

what's portland retro good for (pls @ me for replies)

[atomic abyss]

tanking for relatively low investment

[sweet delta]

@light trail completing rookie mission and cheap tanking

[atomic abyss]

scylla has non negligble gun damage, hence there is the argument to be made for using the 100 kai
the thing is, do you really want to slot one of your few 100 kais on her when there are other ships that may want it more like

[light trail]

tyty

[vale spindle]

yes

[wispy pendant]

End game players have enough gun parts to make 6 UR dd guns, so the “value of the DD” gun is not really the consideration of “what’s best”

[sweet delta]

Wichitam detailed mechanics
Every 5% maxhp lost, boss damage dealt to player +5%.
At fixed times in the battle, fires chains: if a chain touches a ship, will apply these debuffs for 0.2s regardless of HIT or MISS:
  +20% dmg taken
  cannot move. Teleports like Mogador are unaffected.
  interrupts weapons and cannot fire weapons. Skill barrages are unaffected \*cough\* Mogador.
No other notable mechanics.

Guns:
Quite many bullets apply normal burn at 8% chance.
Quite many bullets have 3 or 50 pierce, so using Mogador as a facetanker doesn't really protect the vanguard.
Almost all bullets have 1:1 or 9:8 med:heavy mods, so VH is not good.```

[atomic abyss]

Fine, let's entertain the idea of someone actually having the resources for both
It is impossible to calculate/know which is better

[fluid brook]

the self damage is to WichitaM or our ships?

[atomic abyss]

The idea of one over the other hinges on whether on whether more barrages is greater damage increase than from the increased gun damage
On paper, the barrages win out, but how often do you land barrages fully?

[sweet delta]

fixed

[atomic abyss]

Almost never is the answer
Then how much of your barrage is hitting? How do you measure that?

[wispy pendant]

I guess you're implying the ECTL ranked it higher without testing the difference between 76 and 100kai?

[atomic abyss]

The barrage accuracy then becomes your deciding factor

[fluid brook]

~~Suchi how much HP does player have ~~

[atomic abyss]

It is simply impossible to know the difference lol

[wispy pendant]

i wish we had more tools to test and settle such concerns... like a hit count, damage type accuracy percentage breakdown at the end of a battle. oh well

[atomic abyss]

usui, that wouldn't help in this case

because the barrage hit rate depends on enemy placement, which is dependent on what node you're facing (3 triangle? 2 triangle? 1 triangle? Recon? CV? Main fleet?), which is dependent on what map you're facing

for scylla, the difference is simply too close for us to confidently claim one is better than the other (unlike say kawa and shima)

[wispy pendant]

maybe a test mode with such analytics?

[atomic abyss]

the best answer is that "it depends"

[sweet delta]

i confidently claim that 100 kai is significantly better on scylla against typical single bosses

[atomic abyss]

scylla is probably not gonna hit most of her barrage on a boss for example
so 100 will be better

[sweet delta]

and i confidently claim that 100 kai is significantly better in chapter 14 mobs

[atomic abyss]

on mobs? it isn't as clear
for maps that are packed with enemies the 76 may be better

[viscid mauve]

is there a guide for world 15?

[atomic abyss]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PHOpBGltnFNemxxsATJ-Qx-buk4HSh1jnIYFeK9EqhI/edit?usp=sharing

[viscid mauve]

thanks

[sweet delta]

obviously vanguard ships and gear and positions pending level 15 survivability and offense

o iris torp for ply too

[gray sphinx]

holy look at all of those rainbow BB guns

there's no way you need that much gear for w15 right?

[cobalt rapids]

this is for wichita showdown

[undone plover]

That is for wichita meta

[gray sphinx]

ohhhh okay that makes more sense lol

[cobalt rapids]

[gray sphinx]

sorry not enough sleep made me do selective reading on the number 15 and thought you were talking about w15

[undone plover]

Shiny gear I can manage but shiny gear at +13

[viscid mauve]

at first i thought that was for w15 too until i scrolled down

is the guide for w15 for auto or manual? cause i suck at manual

[glacial heath]

already having 2 Twin 138.6mm, would be kinda hard

[soft raft]

Huh Unzen gun on Brest?
Is that for Alsace stacks?

[cobalt rapids]

its for light dps

[atomic abyss]

they are 2 diff fleets so

[vestal thistle]

Other than these what should I get from the shop

[wispy pendant]

i guess oil and coins

do you need plates?

[vestal thistle]

?

[vale spindle]

did you get the ship (1 copy if you didn't get the ship from map drop or building) and both equipment?

[vestal thistle]

Yeah

[kind needle]

Is 69 dr prints to d30 a long way or no?

[vale spindle]

check pins, the 5/21 datamine has the event shop priority

[hollow gust]

thats less then a week

[vale spindle]

do /devbp in #bot-spam
tldr its like 13% of the way there

[undone plover]

Think he meant he has 69 left

[vale spindle]

oh

[atomic abyss]

that he did

[vale spindle]

then you are 87% of the way there

[vestal thistle]

I don't see it

[cobalt rapids]

#gameplay-help message

[sweet delta]

Is IMPORTANT higher than High?

[vale spindle]

yes

it didn't feel right putting the "important" items at the top of "high" because they are just more important

[vestal thistle]

Thank you

[forest palm]

perhaps mandatory, still sounds weird

[vestal thistle]

When is next UR

[sweet delta]

Not in June

[vestal thistle]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I need one more bulin to max modagor

[glacial heath]

is it possible to get Cosmic Kicks?

[sweet delta]

One copy from War archive

is cosmic kicks useful?

[meager gyro]

what does this chest mean?

[undone plover]

Hidden zone. Clear it for some rewards

[wispy pendant]

"hidden zone", you need to clear the red areas, then it drops lots of collectable chests

[vale spindle]

a zone with a chest means once you start it you either beat the zone or die trying, no second chances

[vestal thistle]

Which war archives are for farming iron blood tech points

[wispy pendant]

divergent chess

[vale spindle]

yellow chests are about the same difficulty as normal zones, but red chests are very hard don't run into red chests blindly

[meager gyro]

ive noticed once, i got annihilated

[vestal thistle]

How much does farming tech points usually take

[icy mountain]

which one should i use on anchorage?

[vale spindle]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology check here for specific ship locations

[wispy pendant]

what do you mean?

[meager gyro]

yoooo they put ur name in the link

[paper mural]

Any word from the devs on when the next META dossier will get added?

[vale spindle]

you want to save the hard zones for the end of the month once your tuning values are high enough from clearing the easy zones

[vestal thistle]

I am trying to get agier

[vale spindle]

its my website actually

[viscid swift]

nope

[meager gyro]

[viscid swift]

they did tease the next event though

[meager gyro]

this guys famous

[vestal thistle]

How much time does it take to farm 425 tech points

Iron blood

[viscid swift]

could be as simple as a few minutes, could be a few days

[vestal thistle]

Few minutes?
425?

[meager gyro]

is this doable for me?

[atomic abyss]

no

[meager gyro]

[viscid swift]

you could very well just need a few minutes spending XP packs and limit breaking ships

[vestal thistle]

Not much coins

[viscid swift]

without knowing what you have though it's difficult to say

[vestal thistle]

But 280 packs

[vestal thistle]

Do I have to 3 star

[icy mountain]

is there any ship that does the same as laffyii?

[viscid swift]

no, there's no point to 3 starring stages in the WA

[icy mountain]

cuz its kinda unfortunate that i didnt get to play when guam laffeyii event was up

[viscid swift]

no

[icy mountain]

sad

[viscid swift]

she's a unique package

[wispy pendant]

no

[wispy pendant]

for AA Sandiego is good, shimanto are good.

[icy mountain]

its kinda expensive to build her tho

[wispy pendant]

but no one is just like guam or laffe2, they are very good

[icy mountain]

will try to build her soon

[wispy pendant]

expensive is relative, and it's not that much by the time you get to w13, if you're not at w13, don't worry about aa much

[meager gyro]

whens next event?

[viscid swift]

next week

[meager gyro]

[wispy pendant]

#game-news

[meager gyro]

yeah im cooked, i got like no cubes

[wispy pendant]

it's a rerun

[meager gyro]

of?

[novel condor]

Rondo at rainbows end iirc. Emden event ig then again more time to stock up coobs

[wispy pendant]

you can look where I pointed you?

[icy mountain]

currently done with chap 12 tho, also i just built juneau since shes cheaper

[wispy pendant]

what's "expensive" about building san diego for you?

[atomic abyss]

[meager gyro]

any good ships in there?

[atomic abyss]

emden

[icy mountain]

gold cruiser retros

[atomic abyss]

and the retro item

[wispy pendant]

just farm them from hard mode champ

[icy mountain]

and the retro item

[viscid swift]

and the 3 gold bullins, and the nearly 80k coins needed to finish it

[novel condor]

Wait who's retro item?

[atomic abyss]

sandy

[icy mountain]

the mic

[wispy pendant]

people are complainging about the "cost" of san diego for someone who doesn't have laffey2 or guam

[icy mountain]

costs 2k cores

[novel condor]

Oh sandy

[icy mountain]

ill build her after i build anchorage

[novel condor]

I thought you said emden event got retro item was so confused

[atomic abyss]

so?

retro-ing sandy now could mean they lack rainbow bulins for a UR later

[wispy pendant]

for someone that wants AA, I think sandiego is cheaper than shimanto

[atomic abyss]

the answer is simple, just don't push w13

[novel condor]

I thought Isuzu is the cheaper AA?

[icy mountain]

juneau

[atomic abyss]

juneau > isuzu in terms of worth

[viscid swift]

so you would rather take San Diego over a MLB UR BB or CV

[novel condor]

dam guess ima level her up next

[atomic abyss]

isuzu does have better AA admittedly

[wispy pendant]

depends, i have enough UR BBs and CVs now, if I didn't have sandy yet, I would go for sand

[viscid swift]

well they don't

[atomic abyss]

and if you want me be to be honest

[novel condor]

Guess they have different priorities

[atomic abyss]

if for some ungodly reason they do need a shit ton of AA
there's always cheshire anyways

[wispy pendant]

Sandiego is a straight forward path to getting a certain thing, by the time they need more AA, they should have the wherewithal to make their own decision on the priority of their cores

[viscid swift]

you'll probably still need to grind the WAs

[vale spindle]

seyd and emden are pretty good but nothing special
they not rainbow so

[novel condor]

Chesy, Juneau, Isuzu

[viscid swift]

or, you could just level San Diego up and not retrofit her

[novel condor]

Seyd waifu tho but I digress

[glass quest]

what AA Gun on Plymouth? Rainbow or Sextuple?

[sweet delta]

Single 113 augmented non retro sandy 📈

[atomic abyss]

rainbow
she isn't an AA carry

[viscid swift]

with her Augment now she's at least servicable pre retro

[wispy pendant]

staag most of the time

[novel condor]

U put staag on Plymouth????

[vestal thistle]

Do duplicate count?

[atomic abyss]

staag assuming AA isn't relevant
sorry wrong

[viscid swift]

no

[vale spindle]

na youd rather 134 then surely

[atomic abyss]

oh right she's a gunner whoops

[vestal thistle]

Then how

Only first time getting the ship?

[wispy pendant]

I just staag everybody

[icy mountain]

should i craft and sextuple and slap it on juneau?

[vale spindle]

you get tech points in 3 ways

• first obtaining
• max limit break
• lvl 120

so since lvl 120 is omega pain, you want to get a lot of ships then max limit break them

[viscid swift]

it's not a high priority to craft

[icy mountain]

or should i just reserve my electronics for my 2nd wyvern?

[vale spindle]

you seem to have the "get a lot of ships" down, so now its time to limit break all of them

[vestal thistle]

Well fuckaty

I only have 1 bulin

[novel condor]

~~ Assuming u have their copies or burins and gold to do so ~~

[vale spindle]

also if your medal shop has BB, get tirpitz or bismarck

[vestal thistle]

And 2 gold

[novel condor]

Can check the shop, sometimes they sell em

[agile furnace]

How do I get out?

[viscid swift]

tap the exit button in the bottom right

[agile furnace]

Oh I’m blind

[icy mountain]

how do u get that supporting button beside the fleet 1?

[agile furnace]

Teleporter is blocked

[atomic abyss]

summon subs

[icy mountain]

find a watchtower

[hidden fox]

whats the difference in healing for Unicorn, Perseus and Aquila I doing fleet rework again

[icy mountain]

thanks

[keen sable]

Use subs

[eager mulch]

not ender telling someone to use the blocked teleporter

[sweet delta]

Perseus has better main fleet healing and worse damage than unicorn. Aquila is the strongest supplementary healer to be used with uni or perseus

[hidden fox]

and when you say supplementary

[vestal thistle]

I am 30 cores away from roon u

[atomic abyss]

second healer

[keen sable]

Single target high efficacy

[atomic abyss]

roon mu does not give ironblood tech so uh

[wispy pendant]

how do we rank the other healers and survivability support carriers?

[sweet delta]

Who's we

[hidden fox]

alr but lets assume I only have 1 of either carrier in my fleet because of the limit, whos better for solo healing

[kindred ingot]

I'm trying to clear 13-1 but the vanguard is dying to the planes in this fleet, is it just a ship lvl issue?

[hidden fox]

yes

[atomic abyss]

considering 13-1 is at level 116, yes
you are massively under levelled

[hollow gust]

Your tank is kinda iffy

[wispy pendant]

i'm pretty sure the "transformation" of rikka and yume don't do AA

[hidden fox]

alr Ig I just stick with Unicorn

[vestal thistle]

Is it worth buying one prinz from shop to fully limit break her for tech points?

[wispy pendant]

do you have rikka and yume's augs?

[viscid swift]

massive level issues and frankly I would bet there's gear issues as well

[keen sable]

Actively hurts but probably not only issue

[sweet delta]

Who else would you buy?

[wispy pendant]

do you havce rikka's gear?

[kindred ingot]

ye I have all of the collab gears, the planes are dying fast but the ships are dying equally as fast

[grizzled creek]

Before I start leveling this is 100% my 2 teams ? I'm about to farm this Side event story thing

I wanna make sure

[sweet delta]

They're all tech. So buying eugen is ok

[wispy pendant]

what is your ACV value? is it in the green? you might need more carriers in your other fleet

[keen sable]

Side story foch is trash

[grizzled creek]

I was told to farm one of them

[atomic abyss]

i don't think acv is the issue to fix first when there is a visible issue with ship levels...

[keen sable]

You mean like divergent chessboard?

[grizzled creek]

War archive event

[grizzled creek]

Yea that's a side event is it not ?

[wispy pendant]

13-1 is lvl 116 enemies, it might also be acv

[atomic abyss]

that's called war archive
they are old events not side events

[viscid swift]

it's not a side event, it's literally old event maps
they're called War Archives

[keen sable]

No, they're not called that

[grizzled creek]

Anyway... that's the teams still right ? Before I farm it & use my Retro stuff

Cause ima be tryna level the characters

[keen sable]

Bad fleet choices.

[grizzled creek]

U got 2 u can come up with then before I farm

[atomic abyss]

I'm trying to clear 13-1 but the

[viscid swift]

they're fine

[keen sable]

Mob: Nelson uni sara, Port kaza Sirius
Boss: hood alsace enty heiny, Helena laffey

[grizzled creek]

Oh I sent the wrong picture for the team XD that was for something else

I believe that's the team he gave ^^

[tired condor]

should I do this even tho I don't got 400 wisdom cubes

[viscid swift]

no

[atomic abyss]

no

[gray sphinx]

wait I just realized I can probably coin haku right?

[atomic abyss]

no

[viscid swift]

you can't

[atomic abyss]

neither haku or agir are coinable

[gray sphinx]

dang really? I thought it would be the same thing that they did with PR2

[atomic abyss]

they will be coinable eventually

for now they are still "too new"

[eternal basalt]

You got Drake, DR3... january probably

[viscid swift]

Agir and Haku won't be getting coining until the PR5 PRs get it in January probably

[grizzled creek]

This is the one I farm right

[hollow gust]

You are flat broke

[viscid swift]

yes

[tired condor]

dont worry ill get the next ur in 2 pulls

[grizzled creek]

Is it unlimited time once I start ?

[gray sphinx]

hmm I guess I'll just keep researching haku while doing the catch up for plymouth then. I'm only about 200 ish away from both of them so I should be done with both before then

[tired condor]

wait are all the pr5s becoming coinable in january? or is this speculation

[viscid swift]

prediction based on the schedule from previous years

[atomic abyss]

and likely only the golds in PR5

[tired condor]

o so the urs still wont be

[atomic abyss]

just like how agir and haku aren't at the moment

[tired condor]

maybe the urs will be coinable the year after the golds are

[soft raft]

there's no time limit at all

[viscid swift]

I did say PRs after all

[viscid swift]

that's been the pattern thus far

[grizzled creek]

Awesome thx

[tired condor]

ill probably get enough from just random bps

[grizzled creek]

Oh I see it takes these keys

Do I need it every time I enter ?

[viscid swift]

yes

entering a map will cost you one key

[soft raft]

and you get 4 per day, with a max of 60 keys at any time

[grizzled creek]

Dang so it takes a long time to max out a map then

[viscid swift]

one run

[soft raft]

no it doesnt
you only need to do 1 run to 100% clear and there's no need to 3* a stage

[tired condor]

switch to hard immediately and do one run each

[unique lantern]

what would be a good addition to be bottom one, i do have an unleveled shinano and an equipped and leveled mogador, otherwise it'd need to be a farmable ship

[grizzled creek]

I mean after I clear it all, I don't need to farm ?

[viscid swift]

what is this for

[unique lantern]

opsi

[soft raft]

What content is this for?
also like we have no idea who you have

[viscid swift]

well you want to farm D4

[soft raft]

also that mob vang lacking a tank is pretty yikes

[viscid swift]

depends on what you have then

[grizzled creek]

That'll take a lot of keys is what I mean , the farm on D4

[viscid swift]

it will

[soft raft]

such is the grind

[viscid swift]

this is where HECLPs come in handy

[grizzled creek]

So when I run out of keys what floor do I farm for more exp ? My highest one on campaign ?

[viscid swift]

yes

[grizzled creek]

Ok thx

[unique lantern]

just random stuff i like and got, i only cleared opsi once and stopped, seemed too much of a drag :v

[soft raft]

it's not as much of a worthless time wasting drag as you'd think
Esp when a majority of the best gear in the game is from gear lab, and OpSi is the only major source of materials for that

[unique lantern]

ya, but i barely get to advance the main stage because there are always events running and i spend what little time i play actively advancing the main stages

no rough advice for 2 fleets? (last time one was enough for everything except those big boss nodes which are meant for multiple fleets :v)

[unique lantern]

also usually i have friedrich carl as tank, but it seems to do fine with unicorns heal, until i finally have my ägir unlocked 🙏

[little tree]

Who has more prio Mog or Kron for MLB?

[hollow gust]

Depends on what you have

[viscid swift]

what are you currently running for campaign

to be blunt it might be best to push to W12 and start leveling some ships up first before focusing much more on OpSi

[soft raft]

What other URs do you have, and how close are they to MLB? (if you have any others)

[little tree]

No other UR's

The are the same Stars

[viscid swift]

Mob: Saratoga, Unicorn, Independence, Portland/Roon, Kawakaze, Yuudachi
Boss: New jersey, Alsace, Enterprise, Carl, Helena, [filler]

that's roughly what you're looking at for OpSI at the moment

[unique lantern]

unicorn-saratoga-independence with friedrich carl-yuudachi-suzutsuki
NJ-alsace-warspite with z23-kawakaze-helena
after current event ended i found to time to push to the end of w11

[little tree]

one is level 108 the other is 78

[unique lantern]

so relatively similar to what i currently have in main

[viscid swift]

yeah as far as fleet builing goes it's pretty poor
do you manual most of your stuff

[unique lantern]

i auto everything and it goes without a hitch even on 0 ammo i dont lose hp between stages in w11 and bosses are easy

[viscid swift]

well, that's mainly because you're so over leveled more than anything else

[soft raft]

lvl doesnt really matter but honestly neither of them are higher prio than the other

So Mogador if you need a damage DD or Kronstadht if you need a better tank/need more tanks

[viscid swift]

the boss fleet vanguard is really fragile so so when run into anything more difficult it just falls apart

[unique lantern]

well... events are spammed like crazy and i auto them until i have everything in the shop

[viscid swift]

you uh know you're not supposed to clear the shops right nor is it reccomended right?

[unique lantern]

by everything i meant relevant, the ship, the augment stuff, oil, and weapon, i might have forgotten something

still takes me 80k

[viscid swift]

PR prints, cognitive chips, and arrays among other things

[unique lantern]

ya, im leaving the chests, skins and ships i can farm out

so i guess im leveling enterprise and roon now

[viscid swift]

yes

[unique lantern]

or do i wait for ägir?

[viscid swift]

that can work for W12, just swap Saratoga and Alsace around, Carl also goes to the boss fleet

[viscid swift]

push to W12 and you'll have an easier time farming XP for her there

I doubt you have too many BPs for her anyway

[unique lantern]

will do

ya i dont

[jade ibex]

breguets worth getting or sidegrades?

[viscid swift]

they're a small upgrade to the Barracuda on Unicorn on W14 and W15 but still worse than Wyverns

not particularly important

[jade ibex]

paralel torp right?

[viscid swift]

yes

[vocal sigil]

would a unicorn/NJ/alsace and noshiro/suzutsuki/san fran fleet be enough for every opsi mob node?

[wispy pendant]

weird fleet, it would be strong, but unsure if it would clear all stronghold bosses, but maybe.

It wouldn't one shot all c6 sirens or harbiter, I don't think.

[forest palm]

the vanguard is very weak, the main fleet would work

[wispy pendant]

oh how the mighty have fallen, rip nosh, suzu and SF

[forest palm]

it's mostly just Noshi, and Suzu

[wispy pendant]

i remember when I started like 5 years ago, noshiro was a "tank"

[trim sparrow]

Sup guys gonna start leveling Alsace in 12-4 any of these loadouts good?

[vocal sigil]

my vanguard options are limited atm since my agir isn't done yet my better tanks are on the bb/cv boss fleets, unless roon or saint louis could do a better job?

[wispy pendant]

where he guns?

[forest palm]

even pre-rainbow fleets; Noshiro, and Suzu were weak for 1 fleet stronghold

[trim sparrow]

Dont know these are recommended loadouts in the archive section

[wispy pendant]

do option 3 with a HE gun

[wispy pendant]

what is the archive section?

[trim sparrow]

Right hand side

[forest palm]

you should be able to run it fine for most mobbing content in ops, but strongholds will wear your vanguard down

[wispy pendant]

i mean 457 is fine for mobbing, but I like more burns on alsace

[forest palm]

just 457 + HSFCR full send that's the simplest leveling load out

[dry terrace]

anyone got knowledge about Bearn Meta? is she worth building or just collection and what gear should I farm for her?

[eager mulch]

mearn good

[trim sparrow]

Copy. She ok to be flag yea?

[forest palm]

w/e you like her to be

Bearn Meta has good Fleet Tech

[dry terrace]

I am trying to gear up some ships I haven't had time to invest and maybe experiment, Bearn was more of a enigma to me

[vivid aspen]

srry im noob, but what are some BB’s that are shell-focused?

[eager mulch]

vanguard

[wispy pendant]

almost all of them

[vivid aspen]

ok

[shell willow]

is arbiter hard like very difficult or its just me being weak/using weak composition?

[wispy pendant]

@vale spindle This brings up a good point, its hard to know if a BB is "shelling focused" or not, how do we steer a newb to know? The number of BB/BCs that are barrage focuses is a short list, right?

[misty tree]

There are barrage focused BB/BC’s?

[eager mulch]

[elfin hollow]

What vanguard fleet do you guys used to farm points for brest

[eager mulch]

3 random French bimbos

[vale spindle]

if the main gun slot efficiency is < 140% they are not shelling focused
if the barrage is not big number then they are not barrage focused
if both then they are neither and therefore suck
if ship has big barrage and big efficiency then they can be either

[misty tree]

I use Saint Louise, Jeanne, and Brennus

[tired condor]

can use mog and epee for brest i think

[eager mulch]

Georgia

[wispy pendant]

how do newbs look up barrage numbers?

[vale spindle]

/wiki user:riceist/barragedatamine

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/BarrageDatamine

[wispy pendant]

i don't even know what I'm looking at when I go to that page, how do we expect newbs to?

[eager mulch]

because they are better than you

[vocal sigil]

alright, would heinrich be an improvement over noshiro to be able to clear strongholds better? once i get agir for a boss fleet i'm planning to swap heinrich out

[wispy pendant]

how do I tell if this is a good barrage or not?

[elfin hollow]

Where do you get jeanne)?

[umbral briar]

for AA which is better, Guam or Shimanto? or anything else
also for CV too need 2 option 2 cv better for AA

[viscid swift]

for what exactly?

[umbral briar]

map 13-3 hard mode

[viscid swift]

you could potentially use Guam and Shimanto for the boss fleet

as for CVs well depends on what you have

[umbral briar]

all ur and some sr

[viscid swift]

try Yorktown 2 and Implacable then

[umbral briar]

and for BB? slot need 1 BB

[viscid swift]

any of the UR BBs work

[umbral briar]

ok thanks i will try one more time

[viscid swift]

note equipment also matters, a lot

[vagrant spoke]

What’s the max recommended tuning for opsi again

[vale spindle]

when i eventually fix it such that its good, then you will be able to

[umbral briar]

sure , i have it

just malding why my backline still breached

[wispy pendant]

203/203/156 ?

or is it 215/215/185?

[soft raft]

D3 of Skybound Otario (Or however it's spelled) in WA

[wispy pendant]

it says where you can get boats on the wiki.

[tame jungle]

it's this one

that's arbiter threshold anyway

speaking of, i should get that out of the way soon

[misty tree]

You can get her from either the war archives (not worth it) or the permanent summon pool

[tame jungle]

perma summon pool is less worth it than warchives tbh!

[stark quiver]

id rather do WA then spend god knows how much cubes on not even a perma banner

[wispy pendant]

60 runs for a guaranteed ship is straightforward

[tame jungle]

at least you get the ship you want guaranteed with WA

[soft raft]

JDA is in Perma light so you could get her from there if you're lucky on your daily pull but yeah prob better to just do the 60 runs

[eager mulch]

guys

i don’t think it’s worth it to grind war archives for JdA just to grind brest xp

[vale spindle]

well you see

[stark quiver]

whoops didnt read that

[vale spindle]

there are only 2 permanent vanguards for france that are not pr or war archive locked

[pliant lily]

should I select something from the research focus or leave it with no focus or no selected?

[vale spindle]

i meant iris

[viscid swift]

set research focus to PR4

[vale spindle]

does brest take both french or only iris

[sweet delta]

PR/DR IV

[pliant lily]

and which ship do I select?

[stark quiver]

4. Accumulate 2.4 million experience with Iris Libre or Vichya Dominion vanguard ships

pretty sure yea

[pliant lily]

anchorage?

[vale spindle]

oh its both nice

[eager mulch]

anchor rage

[viscid swift]

both

[pliant lily]

okeoke, thanks!

[vale spindle]

then yes you don't need jda to grind brest i agree

[stark quiver]

anchor mad

[pliant lily]

what about all the other pr? leave it by default?

[vale spindle]

research focus != catchup don't get confused

[vale spindle]

you can only work on 1 catchup at a time

[pliant lily]

ahhh, okay, I'll leave it like this, thanks once again!

[vale spindle]

set this to pr/dr4, then you can set your pr4 catchup to anchorage, then leave it for now

[tired condor]

used mog for the first time and she just spams that voicelinee

[wispy pendant]

there's no reason to not use an AP gun on Alsace if the boss is heavy, right?

[vestal thistle]

Which one of these is better to farm

[compact gulch]

I have max war archive entries and can’t claim more is there a guide on what’s good in there?

[wispy pendant]

you want to 3 star them all for the rewards mission, each one drops a different set of retrofit items, so which one to "farm" depends on which retrofit you are targetting

[vestal thistle]

Currently non

Did leffy and port

[wispy pendant]

I don't know of a guide, but not really worth farming. See the ships that drop from 60 clears or the gear, and do it for that... otherwise let the tickets stay stacked at 60 like the rest of us

[compact gulch]

That’s what I figured but have oil I need to burn in order to collect more so maybe I’ll just do campaign instead

[inland shoal]

Does someone have the augment "tier list" cheeky(?) made?

[eager mulch]

why not ask cheeky

[inland shoal]

@viscid swift

Also where do we know your nickname from?

[wispy pendant]

?

[inland shoal]

No, but thanks

[forest palm]

w/e that is it looks wrong

[inland shoal]

Hood in T3 and Maya in T0 is not a tier list I want to agree with

[forest palm]

NC, and Atago as well 🚮

[vestal thistle]

Who to retro

[inland shoal]

I believe that tier list is just supposed to be how much the aug improves the ship regardless of how good it is, but still

Nelson ig??

[shrewd lance]

Hey, need help. How do I build ships. I just put random shit on them. Do I just try to give them all 5 star gears?

[wispy pendant]

sandy nelson or saratoga

[vestal thistle]

Sandy?

[wispy pendant]

da numba wun ship

[inland shoal]

Sandy is very very very expensive to retro

Also short for San Diego

[wispy pendant]

I like suggesting people to retrofit sandiego because it triggers the pavlovian dog response of "no she's too expensive" every time

she just got an augment that makes her shoot more stars

[vestal thistle]

Okay so sandy her after I finish farming tech points for agier

[wispy pendant]

only do sandy if you don't need the core for UR bulins, or unless you really need sandy

[vestal thistle]

Then after both agier and modagor

Why would I really need sandy

[wispy pendant]

mogador is very low priority, i wouldn't spend bulins on her if you are still looking forward to rerun URs

[wispy pendant]

because you don't have shimanto or guam or laffey2 yet

[inland shoal]

For AA services for chapter 13 and 15

[vestal thistle]

OK so third on the list

[wispy pendant]

remember to use your coins also on Cheshire in PR3

also, meaning in addition to FdG

is PR4 on coins now, including the DRs?

[inland shoal]

excluding

[wispy pendant]

k, I'd still do cheshire before all the other gold research ships, maybe excluding anchorage if you still need more of her bp

AvP also important I guess for her stop at fs5 if you don't have implacable

[vestal thistle]

Explain

[wispy pendant]

explain what?

Anchorage is one of the best tanks in the game because of her smokescreen, Cheshire is very strong AA and can be decently tanky. AvP at fate sim 5 gets her stop 100% of the time, and then can be a budget "Implacable" for stopping bosses and letting your other ships (likely Carriers) to hit their launchers or volleys

[half plover]

so after anch and avp from pr4 who is next to develop? I know unlocking isn't that important since developing takes the longest time but is it better to go for pr4 or maybe pr6 and use all those blueprints from events etc

[forest palm]

Agir, Hakuryu, there's Marco but she can kind of be ignored, after that is Plymouth

[half plover]

so IB main fleet grind is back with agir, ty

rip alsace

[wispy pendant]

for silly submarine main fleet support, who goes with nautilus and i-13?

[forest palm]

when in doubt LDV, or 47

[wispy pendant]

they go by themselves, does another sub give bonus damage to your mainfleet?

[wispy pendant]

also jimmy says U-556 and Flasher are best single subs

flasher wants flag if you don't run alba as flag tho

[half plover]

who can I realistically use for IB main fleet grind? my FdG is just dev21 yet so would it make sense to raise little FdG and maybe raise zep as well?

or should I get other IB ships instead

[wispy pendant]

if the level is easy enough, just keep leveling up FdG even if not fully devd

[half plover]

what is her lvlcap? 90 or 100?

[wispy pendant]

she can go to 120 with zero limit break

[half plover]

ooh

[wispy pendant]

just needs cogs after 100 like everyone else