gameplay-help

[wind hazel]

well, depends on your timezone, but end of wednesday server time

<t:1718262000:R>

[lost trout]

how long would it take to finish the cruise story?

[forest palm]

like 1 ~ 3 hours I think of button mashing

[sonic flame]

The event ends this reset or tomorrow's reset?

[remote yarrow]

[light trail]

what the heck lol are these ever worth

[plain saffron]

Free coins

[wind hazel]

i've only ever gotten a single Kent out of it

[light trail]

oh that's pretty deceiving lol, i'd have guessed it has a chance for SR and no other rarity

[wind hazel]

most of the time you don't even find any ship

[wispy pendant]

Can someone remind me why Musashi is flag? Seems like she should not be flag, right?

[viscid swift]

part of her barrage is position based

[sweet delta]

OR

[wispy pendant]

So it’s her barrage position is so good, we forgo this part of the skill forever?

[sweet delta]

OR

[final flint]

For a triple UR BB backline, is vanguard still a staple or is she better subbed with alsace/soyuz?

[zinc turret]

is there any way to use auto heal at opsi ?

[sweet delta]

She's not a staple but she's still used

[blissful atlas]

is it better to use ap or sap guns on bbs? (i dont have the best inslot but still wanna use the ship)

[zinc turret]

im strong enough to clear c6 now butt i have to do it manually cuz i have to heal everytime my ship hp drop below 60% hp using item

[viscid swift]

SAP guns are garbage bar one

[atomic abyss]

it's best to look at WHICH specific guns they are

as opposed to just the ammo type

[blissful atlas]

good to know any reason why

[zealous escarp]

Hi, is starting AL rn bad?

[zinc turret]

not really

[viscid swift]

overly biased towards medium armor among other things

[atomic abyss]

welllllll, we are at the tail end of a UR event
which are quite rare

but better now than never

[sweet delta]

There's only one SAP BB gun

[blissful atlas]

looked then looked at what i had was stuck between 2 guns didnt know wich was better

[south sequoia]

And that gun itself is unreliable when hitting

[final flint]

Better start now than to miss more events

[zealous escarp]

UR? Like, San Diego retrofit?

[sweet delta]

Therefore, as cheeky said, SAP guns are garbage bar one

[atomic abyss]

after all, the best BB AP guns are event only or gear lab or research

[zinc turret]

nope , mogador and alsace event gacha

[atomic abyss]

you don't get good AP BB guns from boxes

[zealous escarp]

Dont I need like 4 copies of UR ships from the gacha to make 1 ship?

[zinc turret]

and u can buy UR gun at the event but this is the last day of the event ... so starting now i think wont get u to get ur gun

[south sequoia]

No

UR Ships have UR bulins

[viscid swift]

no, you do need 4 bullins or dupes to limit break them to make them usable though

[atomic abyss]

well you can use UR bulins instead of dupes

[zealous escarp]

So i can just get one and im smooth riding???

[remote yarrow]

No, dupes aren't needed at all, that's what UR Bulins are for

[zinc turret]

welll u only need 1 ship but to max limit break it u need 4 copy / 4 bulin

[south sequoia]

Yes

We aren't Nikke

[zealous escarp]

Yoooooooooo

[remote yarrow]

You still need to MLB them to be useful

[hard mesa]

[remote yarrow]

And URs take a couple months to MLB if you just started

[zealous escarp]

When Shinano first came out, wasnt it like that? I quit cuz i couldnt get a single copy of her... is gacha still merciful 😭

[zinc turret]

if u play genshin/hsr its like constelation/eidolon no dupe = c0 and yeah u can do limit break with dupe / bulin

[viscid swift]

I mean, I have 100% collection rate as a F2P so yes

[zealous escarp]

Woah

[south sequoia]

Even during shinanos event UR burins were introduced

[viscid swift]

and Shinano was literally the first gacha UR

everyone didn't have stuff have to limit break her when she first came out

[minor notch]

Is the server ongoing maintenance now?

[south sequoia]

No

[remote yarrow]

No

[viscid swift]

no, that's tomorrow

[south sequoia]

Its not here for another day

[zealous escarp]

So reroll for UR ships?

[minor notch]

Weird, i cant log in and it says server maintenance

[viscid swift]

if you can be bothered to reroll in the first place

[zealous escarp]

Just play?

[zinc turret]

well i guess u can do that till u get alsace if u want

[viscid swift]

which in AL takes quite a bit of effort

[graceful meteor]

somehow idr not having enough Shinano copies for mlb

[zealous escarp]

Lemme see Alsace

[blissful atlas]

is it better to put the urTwin138.6 on alsace or mogador?(im guessing mog?)

[south sequoia]

Rerolling isnt worth it since AL isn't giving out huge amount of tickets/resources to beginners to start mass building off the bat

[viscid swift]

Mogador, it's wasted as a BB aux gun

[atomic abyss]

that kinda error happens cos your internet connection is unstable

[mint flint]

better to just accumulate resources than reroll

[south sequoia]

Not to mention how long the process is

[remote yarrow]

Well, hurry up if you intend to get her, she's going away in ... 26hrs

[zinc turret]

but getting alsace early pity is huge buff for newbie imo

[graceful meteor]

I would reroll for UR ngl

[zealous escarp]

She's good?

[remote yarrow]

Really good

[atomic abyss]

almost all URs are game changing

[viscid swift]

she's good, but if you miss her no big deal

[zealous escarp]

Damn

[south sequoia]

You can live without a gacha ur early on
It's not like you are able to use that UR effectively until a few months of playthrough

[mint flint]

basically every UR is good

[zinc turret]

top 5 bb

[remote yarrow]

You can survive if you miss her

[zealous escarp]

All URs are beastly in this game??

[minor notch]

Oh right, when i change to data i can log in now, thanks

[viscid swift]

and do you really want to sit through a 30 minute tutorial to not even get 10 pulls everytime you "reroll"

[mint flint]

theres only one that is entirely bad

[atomic abyss]

all bar 1

[zealous escarp]

Who?

[remote yarrow]

URs are really good but not 100% necessary

[south sequoia]

While it may be a big asset for a newer player to own a UR BB, they can live
Its no biggie
It wouldn't change much

[mint flint]

warspite who is a retrofit UR

[atomic abyss]

warspite retrofit isn't bad
she's just average
or disappointing really

[zealous escarp]

Oh, i remember warspite UR. But she's adorbs

[south sequoia]

Well it would change a lot of stuff to making clearing mid - end game content easier

But still

[zealous escarp]

I like her

[viscid swift]

again, I reiterate

[stark quiver]

whats even considered engame

[atomic abyss]

w15 and harbi

[blissful atlas]

figured ty

[novel condor]

guess I havent touched end game yet, still havent tried w15

[zinc turret]

level and gear is the number 1 priority in this game ship is number 2

[viscid swift]

end game would be leveling every ship to 120 or something

[zealous escarp]

Aight im rerolling for Alsace just once

[atomic abyss]

that's not end game
that's literally trying to 100% the damn thing

[stark quiver]

id say endgame is like one fleeting w15 lethal, max tech, one fleet arby, so basically suchi

[remote yarrow]

Endgame is the friends we made along the way

[mint flint]

thats more than endgame

[uneven cave]

real endgame is fleet power maxxing

[mint flint]

thats beating the game basically (even though you cant really beat a continually updating game)

[graceful meteor]

no way you can one fleet w15, at least not atm

[zinc turret]

end game is having all the skin skin l2d is peak gameplay

[mint flint]

you can

[stark quiver]

go search up suchiguma, hardcore no life right thre

[atomic abyss]

you can 1 fleet w15 allegedly

[atomic abyss]

that's leviathan gaming

[novel condor]

sounds pien

[south sequoia]

End/late game is just w14+ and cruising through every opsi boss and building consistent fleets for meta fights why are you people making outrageous measures

[atomic abyss]

you need like, 90k USD to get all skins currently or something

[graceful meteor]

without support fleet? That's just impossible

[viscid swift]

different definitions for the difference between late and end game I guess

[remote yarrow]

Or be an sponsored stremer who gets gifted 50k gems by the devs

[atomic abyss]

50k isn't much lol

[stark quiver]

wallet warrior

[atomic abyss]

that's 50 skins on average

[novel condor]

or just be a dev

[hard mesa]

[atomic abyss]

oh sorry

i was off by a digit

it's 9000 USD

[novel condor]

[zinc turret]

i tought its gonna be 900k

[viscid swift]

small difference

[atomic abyss]

tho im not sure if nagami counted the oath skins so

[sweet delta]

#media-content message

[atomic abyss]

that would be like, maybe a third of what the game makes in a (dead) month so...

[remote yarrow]

That would make you more of an investor than a whale

[zinc turret]

leviathan

[viscid swift]

not even 1/3

[stark quiver]

does the game make this much by jsut in game purchases or also the sponsorships

[viscid swift]

the game made 35160000 RMB last month from in game revenue and that was the lowest earning month in the game's history so far for in game revenue

[stark quiver]

where do u find these info?

[topaz smelt]

questionable sources

[viscid swift]

CN

[wind hazel]

dead game

[plain saffron]

Ded geam

[signal leaf]

Between these three bbs who is better: FdG, owari, uvh

[topaz smelt]

for what content

[signal leaf]

World 13-15

[stark quiver]

probably just wanna run 3 cv for w13 , fdg for 14 and not fdg uvh nor owwari for 15

[kind needle]

Is slaimuda updated rn or not?

[mint flint]

updated yes(kinda), newest event units no

[remote yarrow]

Up to this event? No, there's preliminary ratings over at their discord tho

You can go ask them personally

[wanton smelt]

How would you rank CB/CA in term of dps and tankiness?

[remote yarrow]

That's a very broad question, ngl

[mint flint]

units differ

[forest palm]

CB are the premier tanks, there's a small amount of CA that are used

but going off tankiness is a disservice, and only looks at one aspect of a ships potential

[kind needle]

Guys, is anniv near or no?

[viscid swift]

also what CAs and CBs exactly

[forest palm]

CN May 26th, EN August 16th, JP September 14th

[kind needle]

Aight thanks.

[wanton smelt]

My bad, I meant how would you rank CB/CA UR/PR in term of dps and tankiness?

[topaz smelt]

you wouldnt

[inner delta]

Agir and brest is pretty far top for tank but not for dmg

But like back to how you want to use them

[topaz smelt]

you kinda look at what utility you want from them, agir is a bit ahead for bulk tho

[tidal meteor]

Which is most survivable against DD Abyssals?

[topaz smelt]

all of them

[tidal meteor]

I guess Agir is least survivable due to heavy armour being vulnerable to torps?

[forest palm]

no more than medium armor...

[wanton smelt]

Like, all CB can have heavy armor

[inner delta]

No they dont, only agir doss

[tidal meteor]

I forgor 💀 what torp modifiers generally are

[forest palm]

VH plating is never optimal regardless of the armor change

[remote yarrow]

If torps are your concern I guess you could use Torp Bulge?

[topaz smelt]

eva > heavy armor 99% of the time

[forest palm]

Torp Bulge is an option

[tidal meteor]

[topaz smelt]

bulge is pretty cope unless a large portion of dmg is torps

[tidal meteor]

I'm just thinking what's the best vanguard in an anti-light fleet; the main I've put Kearsarge, YTII and AvP

[viscid swift]

tank, Aurora, Laffey 2

[hollow gust]

Then use Guam

[spice phoenix]

are any of these ships (besides UvH obviously) worth leveling? (Trying to make sure i make the most out of the agir and avp grinds)

[viscid swift]

just tech

[topaz smelt]

not really outside tech

[forest palm]

can't remember if Gnei actually has good tech

[viscid swift]

nope, BC EVA

[forest palm]

as per usual 🚮

[spice phoenix]

CDC data packs it is

[soft raft]

No it isnt

[forest palm]

do not do that

[spice phoenix]

oh

[soft raft]

You always convert that shit to protocore

[viscid swift]

you always convert combat data packs to prototype cores

[topaz smelt]

using data packs for exp is a 3+ month setback

[forest palm]

literally just take Jade, Elbe, and Peter

[hollow gust]

These are good tech

[viscid swift]

the CVLs are CVL only tech

[topaz smelt]

just use ranger

[hard mesa]

[spice phoenix]

alright, thanks guys

[kind needle]

Azuma still good today? Might go for her after harbin

[forest palm]

she's fallen off

still stronger than a lot of other ships mind you

[topaz smelt]

a cbs a cb

[kind needle]

So, yeah, still good?

[forest palm]

mhm

when Carl bats at the same level as Azuma, I don't know if CBs a CB is valid

[viscid swift]

redundant

[crimson glacier]

idk if i want to call azuma good

[viscid swift]

she's 3k prototype cores at this point

[wanton smelt]

Wait really? So what do you equip in their 2nd aux slot? The 1st aux slot is the eva gear of course.

[topaz smelt]

more eva

[remote yarrow]

Beaver Badge

[kind needle]

I haven't done pr2, only Seattle, Georgia, and FdG all I have and FS5'ed, shall I try to get the remaining or is it just redundant?

[wanton smelt]

I thought you can only have 1 washing machine per ship. Beaver Badge is nice but I only have 1

[viscid swift]

they're just tech at this point

[forest palm]

just go to PR4

[kind needle]

Finished, only staying just to build an 2nd tenrai

[viscid swift]

rudder and beaver badge aren't the only auxes that give evasion

[forest palm]

have you grabbed Plymouth?

[kind needle]

Currently harbin, no prints for ply, but can d30 harb

[forest palm]

work on Plymouth after

[kind needle]

Even without prints?

[remote yarrow]

Well ofc don't use her at Dev 0

[kind needle]

I mean I have around 200 prints for her

[exotic wren]

Dev 15 gud, dev 25 nice nice

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't call a dev 15 Plymouth good

[remote yarrow]

idk about the Dev 15 part

[viscid swift]

barely usable at that point

[forest palm]

Dev 15 works, but she's made of paper

[exotic wren]

Utility gud

[remote yarrow]

Utility becomes useless if she dies

[topaz smelt]

id prob still take an ae at that point

[kind needle]

Would 155 kais work for her?

[remote yarrow]

Not the best choice but go ahead

[exotic wren]

what's 155 kai again? Ijn right?

[lean warren]

is the fw 190 from gear lab good?

[kind needle]

For heavy, yes

[topaz smelt]

not really

[gray sphinx]

anyone could possibly help me clear world 14 or if it's even possible to clear with my current game state?

[south sequoia]

she technically is

Make a thread and post your dock

[gray sphinx]

is there a specific way I should be posting my dock?

[remote yarrow]

Cuz we don't know what you have

[gray sphinx]

how should I filter my dock to screenshot my ships?

[remote yarrow]

And saying specific fleet comps doesn't work if you don't have all ships

[south sequoia]

We dont know what you have
We dont know what your gear is
We dont know anything about your current state

[cobalt rapids]

filter by mainfleet first and then by vanguards sorted by lvl

[viscid swift]

post just URs and SRs

[remote yarrow]

By level, leave out commons, rares and elites

Also what umi no neko said

[gray sphinx]

W14 Help

[plain saffron]

But unicorn

[remote yarrow]

What about Unicorn

[topaz smelt]

unicorns dont exist

[echo axle]

Can anyone help me with Chang Chun's misslies and what does it look like 💀

[vale spindle]

the missile is found in the core data shop

[echo axle]

ah thanks

[vale spindle]

Its the sy1 missile or smth

[echo axle]

How much proto cores does it take?

[cobalt rapids]

800 coredata

[remote yarrow]

Tho if you got TY's that one is better

[eternal basalt]

Not the best missile, but the best is eventlocked

[echo axle]

Tis?

[paper lantern]

do all the current events end in 24 hours or 30ish mins?

[remote yarrow]

It ends <t:1718262000:R>

[echo axle]

thank you for the help

[sharp socket]

can i only do auto deploy for dossier meta 3 times a day

[slender heart]

I don't think you'll have enough tickets per day to do that

[atomic abyss]

For dossier meta, it really depends on how many you save up

You get enough from each day in opsi to do twice (just like normal meta)

The difference is that you can stockpile it all the way

Up to 1400
So you can technically do it up to 16x in a day
By doing the 14 and then getting another 2 from the day's opsi
You can auto deploy for each and every one

Why would you do 16x in a day, I don't know...

[plain saffron]

Saving for a good meta

[forest palm]

UR Meta when

[eternal basalt]

Saving for the only META I didn't get 70k during their run

[kind needle]

is the event ends tomorrow?

[eternal basalt]

Yes, 24h 20m

[analog plover]

Alsace or Soyuz, which one do I wanna MLB first?

[cobalt rapids]

if same lb soyuz

i believe soyuz is more useful for cms and campaign than alsace

[analog plover]

Sorry. Me noob. what's CMS again?

[cobalt rapids]

challenge mode

monthly thing with one time rewards like chat frames

[thick geyser]

I got a perseus and I see she's a healer. Is she also good like unicorn?

[tidal meteor]

Better for backline healing, worse for DPS and frontline healing

[remote yarrow]

She is, but also why do you need another Healer when Unicorn is better and cheaper to rise

[atomic abyss]

She is very strong
But Unicorn retro is better for most intents and purposes

[thick geyser]

ahh, because I'm new, my unicorn isn't retrofitted yet

[tidal meteor]

(Better waifu tho)

[analog plover]

Thank you for your input Soyuz it is then, Ice Queen can go ham for now and Alsace can wait on her cathedral.

[thick geyser]

so would it be better to use her until uni retro is done?

[crimson glacier]

no

[gray sphinx]

do you guys set up your OS to be 1 boss and three mob?

[crimson glacier]

gold bulin cost is just too high for useless unit like perseus

[remote yarrow]

no, that would be a waste of bulins and coins

Just stick to Unicorn and retro her at your own pace

[atomic abyss]

I wouldn't go as far as to say useless...

It's more of the opportunity cost

[analog plover]

after the nightmare of the middle node, I made it 3 boss fleets and 1 mob fleet

[wary timber]

Tashkent or Prinz Heinrich? Which is better

[crimson glacier]

useless isnt bad, but unicorn does make he useless

[atomic abyss]

Depends on a million things, see the pins for an explanation of which to pick

[gray sphinx]

sooo 3 boss fleets and 1 mob fleet got it

[remote yarrow]

They serve completely different roles one is a DD dps that's kinda similar to Starter Retros and the other one a Tank that depends on having another IB ship on your team

[gray sphinx]

let me see if I can somehow cook that up

idk if I have enough gear to gear all four fleets tho ngl lol might have to resort to switching gears midbattle which'll be annoying

[wary timber]

Guess I'll be taking the Prinz Heinrich then

I need a tank anyways

[thick geyser]

oh, so do I just pretty much never use perseus then?

[remote yarrow]

Not never but no need to use her now

[gray sphinx]

isn't perseus pretty useful in OS at least?

[crimson glacier]

lol no

[gray sphinx]

huh

[remote yarrow]

You'll eventually level her for the tech and probably some niche thing she was used in iirc

[gray sphinx]

unicorn really powercrept her huh

[crimson glacier]

she doesnt offer anything for opsi

[wind hazel]

she has crossfleet

[crimson glacier]

unicorn does everything she does, but better

[remote yarrow]

She depends on having another Iron Blood ship on the fleet for her bulk btw

[thick geyser]

that's a little sad

[wary timber]

Here's my advice for healer CVLs. Unicorn in main bossing fleet, Perseus in mob fleet

[atomic abyss]

Percy has crossfleet
But uni just contributes to her own fleet way more

[crimson glacier]

your advice is dogshit

[remote yarrow]

??????????? what are you on about

[atomic abyss]

There are "healers" we use in boss fleets

[gray sphinx]

how do we feel about ryuuhou then?

[remote yarrow]

please refrain from spreading misinformation

[atomic abyss]

But the healer isn't Uni or Percy

Ryuuhou is like never used at this point

[crimson glacier]

Ryuuhou is also pretty pointless

[gray sphinx]

lmao

[crimson glacier]

But she does pair with uni better than percy

[atomic abyss]

Like, Volga is pretty much a better Ryuuhou

[gray sphinx]

welp there goes the time I spent 120ing her at least I got some tech points out of it

[woven rain]

just for collect and pts

[atomic abyss]

And then there's Aquila

[forest palm]

Ryuuhou was made redundent the moment they released Percy

[crimson glacier]

Uni + ryuuhou is legit combo

[remote yarrow]

Btw, if you really want another tank just get Anchorage or Agir from PR4

[atomic abyss]

But at that point might as well use Volga or Aquila anwyays

[crimson glacier]

Depends

On My w13h clears those 2 were on my boss fleet

So I had uni ryuuhou on mob

[gray sphinx]

what kind of combos do we have with vanguard btw?

[atomic abyss]

That's fair

[wary timber]

Btw I just got these. Which is better between the the German 150mm and Japanese 150mm

[remote yarrow]

Neither of those are specially good, German's kinda niche and Japanese is used mainly on Shimanto for ghost AA

[unkempt pier]

It is too late to grind enough for the other Mogador right? I was just able to beat the SP stage since yesterday

[wary timber]

Hmm

[gray sphinx]

better grab that gear quick

[wind hazel]

would say yes, grind for the gear instead

[remote yarrow]

My queestion is why spend Protocore on PR6 gear blueprints

[steady beacon]

Wdym by combos

[hard mesa]

german 150mm are fine, its gold tbskc

[gray sphinx]

main fleet ships that go really well with vanguard

[remote yarrow]

There's better stuff to get from Protocore, check out #bot-spam /protocore

[plain saffron]

Vanguard or vanguards

[gray sphinx]

nah UR vanguard

[plain saffron]

Any ur bb really

[steady beacon]

Ye
That's the usual thing you try and do

[plain saffron]

Take your top 2 ur bb and put with her for opsi fleet

Campaign idrk

[steady beacon]

Take a strong little "v" vanguard as well

[gray sphinx]

doesn't have to be royal navy?

[steady beacon]

Nope

[gray sphinx]

got it. I'll just run a triple BB fleet in OPSI for her then thanks!

[steady beacon]

I mean, in a BB fleet, you're probably gonna have Plymouth but that is nothing to do with Vanguard

[gray sphinx]

I don't have enough BPs for her so I'm currently working on her

[remote yarrow]

Based on your dock you can run
Zwei,Sashi,Vanguard
Agir,Helena,Flex
for BB fleet

[kind slate]

What do people usually do with protocore once they’ve bought 3 champy and all ur gear? Do they just buy random bps or save up?

[remote yarrow]

That flex can be Unzen or whoever does dmg

[vital path]

In terms of PVP which one's better for Mogador? Do I go with more power or better survivability

[remote yarrow]

You probably wanna ask over at #pvp

[gray sphinx]

should I run FDG, shinano, and implacable as the other boss fleet then? cause I was gonna use zwei on my shinano and implacable fleet

[vital path]

Oh, my bad. How about content like Operation Siren/Campaign? Would I have to change gears based on enemies or does is one build better than the other in all cases?

[steady beacon]

Generally just let them sit there tbh, unless you want/need something
I feel like once you've bought those items you probably already have enough of stuff, anything more is just optimisation or even a little greed

[remote yarrow]

Those torps aren't specially good for auto so run Quad Mags and you probably wanna change that Oxy Torp for a toolbox or an HP Aux

[remote yarrow]

Uuuh go back to your thread

[kind slate]

Oh nice. I was asking cuz I already have enough to buy all ur gear and I wanna complete shimanto dev really badly. I just need like 20 more bps lol

[steady beacon]

Ah, do you want to buy the generic blueprints is it
Ye, go for it then... if you don't have equipment needs, might as well just use them for something you do want

[kind slate]

Sorry another question. When it comes to developing research ships, I’m assuming it’s better to dump every single bp on a single ship rather than spread it out across multiple?

[steady beacon]

That is usually what I do ye
Completing one ship removes her face researches from the pool, so you can roll for the others instead

[elfin hollow]

is it worth using a UR bulin on alsace?

or is it better to limit break mogador and implaceable?

[wind hazel]

depends on what else you have

[steady beacon]

Ugh, the agony of choice...
Which other ships do you have

[kind slate]

Is there anyone worth prioritising in pr5/6 other than shimanto and Harbin?

[elfin hollow]

...in terms of UR ships?

[flint monolith]

if im farming points specifically for little fdg, do I just need her to be in one of the 2 fleets for the bonus points? or does she need to be specifically in the fleet that defeats the boss

[steady beacon]

Sure

[elfin hollow]

listed here

[steady beacon]

Oh those are all huh
I'd probably prio Als then

[elfin hollow]

alright thank you

i'll see if i can snag new jersey from the other banner before i use it

[steady beacon]

The other four golds across those two seasons are variously useful in their own ways, but not terribly high priority

[wind hazel]

not recommended to do anything outside of 1 Light daily

just let your NJ/Shinano pity accumulate with that 1 Light

[kind slate]

So complete those 2 before moving on to the others. Got it thnx

[cobalt rapids]

and even if u get nj she doesnt take prio over alsace/implac

[elfin hollow]

huh, we got UR's in standard pool now?

[unkempt mirage]

are there any dive bombers with interception, and in the same vein how do you tell if something can intercept, or is that just something you have to know, like 'wyverns can'

[elfin hollow]

i see thank you

[steady beacon]

None as of present, no

[sleek spade]

do opsi bosses at different corrosion levels drop different things or do they just have higher drop rates for rarer items? like corrosion 4 bosses always drop purple top secrets that I dont need...

[elfin hollow]

guess i'll cut my losses and go 1 light from now on thanks fellas

[sleek spade]

nice thanks

[shell willow]

can i somehow change my fleet composition during abyssal? and if not: do i lose anything by exiting? like can i just try again after?

[uneven cave]

Is there a way to stop the game from telling me that I've hit the coin cap after every battle

[cobalt rapids]

spend ur coins, else no

[sweet delta]

Go below the coin cap

[crisp estuary]

Anyone^^^

[uneven cave]

[sweet delta]

No yes no

[supple verge]

whats the general BIS sub loadout rn?

[kind slate]

Should I keep agir bps? In case of fate sim

[shell willow]

[sweet delta]

There's no bis for everything, but flasher + two of albacore, homura, archerfish is generally good

[tiny abyss]

what do you farm for ordinance testing reports and those design blueprints

[cobalt rapids]

depends how many ur bbs u got, but alsace first is safest unless u have the top bbs mlb and u wanna do w15

[crisp estuary]

Maxed: Soyuz, NJ, UvH, FdG, Vanguard, Bismarck

[cobalt rapids]

alsace then

[crisp estuary]

Any reason why?

[icy mountain]

are these worth crafting?

[zinc turret]

Opsi

[dusk maple]

what's the gear setup for shinano/haku/implacable against heavy?

[cobalt rapids]

same reason i gave above

[cobalt rapids]

https://renhex.github.io/alft/46 opsi standard synced setups

[crisp estuary]

Huh. Alsace is stronger than all of my BBs except Bismarck? Or is Soyuz just as strong?

[cobalt rapids]

same ish with soyuz

[atomic abyss]

Alsace will only be distinctly better than the rest if
A. Light armour
B. Short battles

Her dps shd be around the same as Soyuz for battles ~100s

[remote yarrow]

No HakuNanoAvP? I feel discriminated

[topaz smelt]

if you wanna be spicy run yumi

[remote yarrow]

I forgot was her slow reliable at all at the end or not?

[topaz smelt]

no

[steady beacon]

Is your definition of short battles outside of campaign anything less than 100 sec

[atomic abyss]

The rough calcs show that Alsace is still slightly ahead of everyone else at 100s

I imagine she remains competitive dps wise as long as it's not challenge mode lol

[topaz smelt]

What fight even lasts 100s
Also calcs

[cobalt rapids]

ahead of every1

[atomic abyss]

What fight lasts 100s...

Metas
Campaign boss battles
I don't remember abyssals being much longer

[steady beacon]

Can confirm, at least Arbiter and META, she's arguably more than merely competitive
I will defer on challenge mode to those who do that

[cobalt rapids]

meta is 77s, arbiters are 87s

[atomic abyss]

So literally everything relevant outside challenge mode

Just to be clear
She's only ahead because of the preload
She loses out salvo for salvo

Longer battles are where the advantage of the preload is reduced

[topaz smelt]

Assuming the standard 100% hit rate non moving sandbag?

[steady beacon]

Is that question for me, Rice

[atomic abyss]

I mean realistically speaking
Zwei should always be ahead of the pack cos of her hole

[topaz smelt]

Send me your findings

[atomic abyss]

But it's not like we can use 3 zweis anyways

If you ask me the real question shouldn't be "does Alsace replace Soyuz or Musashi"

The question should be "does Alsace replace Vanny"

[topaz smelt]

There's also the matter of guns as we don't have 3 soy guns and Alsace needs a shittier gun to sync to anything

[atomic abyss]

In other words, is Alsace's damage and debuffs enough to make up for the loss of Vanny's support

Cheeky seems to think yes

[main latch]

Is FdG better than NJ ?

[atomic abyss]

Mobbing better
Bossing worse

[cobalt rapids]

better pre 15 mobber

[steady beacon]

What I've already measured is in the ECGC forum post
More soon
If you want recordings, well...
The size gives me pause, but if you want them we can arrange something

[topaz smelt]

They're prob pretty close on 15

[atomic abyss]

At the end of the day rice

Isn't w15 musashi's party anyways

[topaz smelt]

Pretty much

[cobalt rapids]

i think nj aa and snipe are more valuable on 15

[atomic abyss]

Turning all the competition into sushi

[topaz smelt]

Too much back reading tldr me

If NJ can get a good timing sure, it's pretty rough

[unkempt mirage]

I have 10 gun plans, and 14 selectors left, what should I be making

[topaz smelt]

A 2nd 457 is nice

[void turret]

this game is giving me everything but USS Nautilus

[atomic abyss]

Okay?

[void turret]

at this point the only way it could get worse is if I get New Jersey as well before I get the wishing well selection lmao

[steady beacon]

She's fine
I'd take her top three in most circumstances for bossing
I will admit that her performance against Repulse was underwhelming, and I honestly have no explanation for why
But outside of that anomalous situation, she has shown no issues
Campaign and CM, I will defer to others; Arbiters and "general" METAs I think she's great

[void turret]

how does the RNG in this game even work

[cobalt rapids]

she is great but is she better than every1 great ?

[atomic abyss]

Alsace absolutely isn't better than everyone great

[topaz smelt]

Being great is kinda an expectation from a ur

[atomic abyss]

Bis Zwei is the one thing she will never overthrow

[atomic abyss]

I'm not sure what kind of explanation you're looking for exactly....

[unkempt mirage]

doesnt that take ordnance, i'm short those, but will make that next with those

[cobalt rapids]

dont think any1 disputed her not being top
but you guys said shes slightly ahead of every1

[topaz smelt]

I've found on her own she's had issues hitting her barrage consistently, esp vs moving

[south sequoia]

Great is the standard among urs, what we're looking for is is she better

[atomic abyss]

Paper calcs appear to show that she is ahead of everyone before 100s (5 shots)

In practice I highly doubt she will top bz

[topaz smelt]

My prelim was she's competitive if her preload is utilized but that's mostly only the case in opsi

[south sequoia]

Have you tested wirh CM yet?

[atomic abyss]

She will be significantly worse in CM

[south sequoia]

I assume its due to her preload losing value later on in the battle?

[atomic abyss]

The preload's advantage seems to be relevant as long as the battle doesn't goes to the 2 min mark

She basically loses out on salvo (+barrage) to salvo (+barrage) damage

It's the same issue that Richelieu faces

[topaz smelt]

Her biggest issue I find is how slow she is

[south sequoia]

But she should still be above kear and nj in terms of salvo right?

[atomic abyss]

That idk

[topaz smelt]

Kears ahead iirc on optimal loadout

[south sequoia]

Oh what

[atomic abyss]

On med presumably

[topaz smelt]

Kear is also slow af

[south sequoia]

That rld buff on ur bbs is almost a standard at this point too

[atomic abyss]

If you ask me, this is the key question

[steady beacon]

Definitely worse pattern than some others

[atomic abyss]

And yet her crossfleet is the best in the game...
Alongside Soyuz at least

[steady beacon]

Nah, I'm gonna leave that to others
I hate doing CM
Too long, too exhausting

[atomic abyss]

CM she will get slaughtered dps wise
The only question is "how badly"

[topaz smelt]

Prob very

[south sequoia]

I guess you might as well just be using kearsarge at that point

Kearsarge is a sub damage amplifier/buffer anyways

[steady beacon]

My question is why are we kicking Vanguard to the kerb
Why can we not use them together

[atomic abyss]

Ya see

[topaz smelt]

Too fast vs too slow, you'll lose a lot trying to sync

[south sequoia]

On shorter battles it doesnt really matter imho between the current 5 ur bbs, it's up to the player if they want to swap in and swap out alsace or other ur bbs

In longer battles you'd rather be using someone else

[steady beacon]

How long are the battles you're going for

[atomic abyss]

If we assume a fixed comp of BZ+Vanny

Alsace is best for light
Soyuz is best for med
Sushi is best for heavy

But as rice said, that doesn't take into account sync issues

Alsace has some of her own debuffs, which also make her a sort of support

But her dps is competitive with Soyuz and Sushi, Vanny isn't

The argument to be made is that is it worth to just drop the lower damage Vanny, and lose her support (and the dps she gives to others)

For simply a higher dps ship in the form of Alsace

[topaz smelt]

Her support is kinda questionable as well since you either force her fast or you're locked with a proccer

[south sequoia]

I'd only start to consider dropping vanny if we were able to slot in a french vanguard in the fleet (Brest/Mogador) to keep the 100% uptime of alsaces debuff and if the player is comfortable with playing around alsaces sync issues

[atomic abyss]

The tldr is

Is Alsace dps > Vanny's (lower dps) + edps (from buffing others)

[cobalt rapids]

but in practice it doesnt play that nice
bz blackhole favors vanny very much because u cant have 3 bbs shooting in her hole at the same time
she is also slow so ud need to skew her to debuff for bz

[steady beacon]

Now I genuinely have to ask what data y'all are working off of...
Bc very little of this is squaring

[south sequoia]

And as I proposed, having to run a french vanguard
Now it also adds the sub question if it is worth dropping one of the vanguard members just for alsace

[atomic abyss]

I mean pilica

This discussion is precisely because there is no data

But there's nothing to work on if there's no hypothesis to begin with

[topaz smelt]

I for one don't care at all for st dps

There's only like 2 fights that's truely st

[steady beacon]

I mean, if you want campaign info I can offer nothing, quite frankly

[inland shoal]

Ehh a lot of OpSi is

[topaz smelt]

Late campaign is more compositional so it's more so how many comps you can fit her in

[inland shoal]

Just that the bulk of the st bosses is quite easy by now

[atomic abyss]

I'm not expecting as much mileage out of Alsace in w15

At least when compared to the other UR BBs

Sushi is just way better in mob

Soyuz or BZ would be better in boss

And the rest are carriers

[cobalt rapids]

the problem is not every1 owns sushi

[small fern]

I got Nelson retrofit how do I get the second skill

[topaz smelt]

And NJ doesn't cut it

[small fern]

Booyah

[atomic abyss]

There's one more node you missed, above the modernization node

[sleek spade]

Uooo! Sandy augment?! Will she finally be good?

[small fern]

Technically 2 but alright

[hard mesa]

i prefer BZ mobbing

[cobalt rapids]

she was good ? just expensive

[small fern]

I don't got enough purple's I got 11 golds and my purple was insane

[sleek spade]

yea but just for AA tho

[atomic abyss]

...she was already very very strong with retrofit

Also her aug isn't out yet how would we know lol

[small fern]

I'm out of purples

[atomic abyss]

Sandy damage is plenty strong lol

[thick geyser]

hi guys. The event shop priority says to buy tech boxes and that USS is the priority, but which one is USS? Eagle?

[sleek spade]

no? I thought her dps is kinda eh?

[small fern]

I retrofitted Nelson now when I finish her who's next

[cobalt rapids]

her dps is retro starter lvl

[steady beacon]

Well I can offer you one written-up case study at least (although it is just an appendix to the original piece): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1H6DWrKRGmUvH02NTNBZk6Y4cvq1IGLuS/view?usp=sharing
Yahoo and I have various other tests on METAs but the data isn't written up (maybe I should consider compiling at some point)
Hermit data TBD

[atomic abyss]

Her dps is better than most CLs lol

[topaz smelt]

Dps is a pretty fake number for campaign, burst timings are prob more important

[sleek spade]

hmmm, now she's even better. very nice

[small fern]

Should I retro unicorn after Nelson

[atomic abyss]

The only CLs that win her are like
Plymouth, Emden, Harbin, Scylla, Shimanto, JinM, Chap+aug

Maybe Rikka and Ryza too?

[sleek spade]

uni first. uni stronk

[atomic abyss]

Unicorn should be retro long before anything else...

[cobalt rapids]

theres nothing wrong with having strong ships that excel in a role tho

[small fern]

Ehehehhee

I ran out of carrier materials 💀

[sleek spade]

breh

[atomic abyss]

Unicorn retro is something that will see use even in end game AL so

Nelson most certainly will not

[topaz smelt]

Dump that in the forum so I can take a look at it in the morning

[steady beacon]

It's been there for like a week now

[atomic abyss]

Unless they come up with a UR healer with a preload
Unicorn is not gonna be dethroned anytime soon

[topaz smelt]

i don't back read
Pin it or something

[final tinsel]

hi all, just checking is possbile to get those free event skin from pass event?

[atomic abyss]

What

Cruise pass skin is paid and not free

[steady beacon]

Brb, gotta ask sam for pin powers

[topaz smelt]

Lol didn't know you need perms for that

I'll just search for it if I rmbr

[hard mesa]

this looks like research paper

[final tinsel]

not those pass skin is more like those previous event that has given out free skin

[atomic abyss]

Some of them are permanently available

[final tinsel]

may i know which are the ones?

as i checked out on some of my ships girl skin, there are some that put event so im wondering if i could still ge tthem?

[small fern]

I seriously am out of carrier retro materials

[atomic abyss]

Press permanent event in the bottom row and see the list

[small fern]

wait till tomorrow for more carrier grinding

[atomic abyss]

Just finish up Nelson's skill node first

Which CV did you even retro before Uni

[eternal basalt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Skins/Event The one listed permanent event

[unkempt mirage]

just to ask again, because I am looking to use 10 gun plans, and 14 selectors, no ordnance for another 457 yet though

[south sequoia]

I guess make a 2nd mk7

Go for the cheaper route though with the mkd rather than the purple mk6

[unkempt mirage]

will i need the DD guns

[south sequoia]

Not particularly need but you'd want them

[gray sphinx]

did they update opsi to be less grindy or is it still just as grindy as it is when it first released? I haven't played opsi in awhile so idk if they made any QOL upgrades to that mode

[silver lintel]

Opsi isnt grindy lol?

[south sequoia]

It is just as grindy but it is very afk

They've since added strategic search, opsi oil loggers

If you are willing to throw 5k oil you can pretty much afk 97% of it

[valid apex]

this^, most of the time you just auto opsi and afk it till you ran out of AP

[gray sphinx]

is it really worth throwing 5k oil into that?

[inland shoal]

Imo yes

5k oil isn't that much anyway

[south sequoia]

You'd be able to generate emergency comms anyways in the time of clearing opsi to regenerate that 5k oil

[valid apex]

if you can be patient and just scan the uncleared and hidden zones and strongholds, you dont need to spend that 5k oil imo

there is no rush to buy stuff before things rotate in shop anymore

[gray sphinx]

yea I noticed that they got rid of the rotation stuff so thank god for that

[hard mesa]

+weekly 4k oil

[inland shoal]

This made it more important to clear all explorables each month tho

[south sequoia]

Up to the player really, If you are willing to manually scan and enter everything don't spend
If you dont wanna be doing that, just throw in the 5k
In the end it's up to the player, not like it makes much of a difference other than an easier time not doing anything

[rapid grail]

i kind of need 13-4 stage to get max cmdr lvl gain at my cmdr lvl 141, right?

[tame jungle]

5k oil for a logger is for a whole month too so if you divide by 28 you get an oil price per day of only 179 oil

[cobalt rapids]

move to 14-1 instead

[inland shoal]

I'd rather do 14-1 or sth
Also cmdr lvl

[gray sphinx]

so when you guys say that you auto 97% of opsi how do you set it up to auto 97% of the content? do you set up strategic search in a certain way? Is there like a guide for it or something?

I'll probably just use the logger since I have like 25k oil and 88k in my storage

[cobalt rapids]

97% of opsi content is secured/explorables/hiddens which all can be strategic searched by ur mob fleet

[tame jungle]

If you open strategic search menu it’s quite straightforward

How much you can AFK it depends on your fleet tho, but opsi mobbing is not very hard

[gray sphinx]

so you guys just use the default strategic search options? don't change anything?

[tame jungle]

What options are there even

[inland shoal]

I usually do stop on Akashi

[tame jungle]

Oh yeah

[inland shoal]

If you have star missions related to towers can make it stop on those too ig

[tame jungle]

Mysterious merchant and siren construct are the options, with the former being quite important

Also turn off reminders for meta coordinates

[inland shoal]

Coords I set to never, zones to all

[gray sphinx]

will they ever enter strongholds or do I enter those manually?

[tame jungle]

Those are counted as separate zones, so no

[gray sphinx]

nice okay got it

[tame jungle]

You get the option to strategic search explorable zones or hidden zones or secured zones

It will never go outside of the type of zone you specified

[inland shoal]

I'd do explorables > hidden > secured

Also do all strongholds and abyssals before secured

[tame jungle]

(Of course provided you have the correct amount of tuning)

Personally, if the month is not yet mostly over i like to keep a couple AP crates in reserve for strongholds

[gray sphinx]

you can set priorities? I didn't see an option for that unless I'm blind

[tame jungle]

When you click strategic search it opens the menu, and you can select what zones you want at the top of the menu

[gray sphinx]

ohhhh I see how it works

you confirm the section you wanna clear first and do it section by section got it

is there a way to get rid of the intermediate dialogues or do I have to manually skip that each time?

[jaunty vault]

in opsi?

[gray sphinx]

yea the dialogue that always shows up everytime you clear an area that says let's move on

[jaunty vault]

theres this option in settings called "reduce TB guidance"
turn that ON

@cobalt rapids

[gray sphinx]

thank god there's a solution for that

[jaunty vault]

[gray sphinx]

opsi is nice for leveling ships too right? or do they not give that much

[cobalt rapids]

doesnt give that much but its free so some ppl use it

[vague comet]

hey, the bottom right red thingy is happening again, manage to record down a video this time

[cobalt rapids]

do you have hinden secretary

[hard mesa]

oh yeah it looks like hinden's rigging

[vague comet]

yeah I do

[cobalt rapids]

its efx from her rigging, bug

[vague comet]

ohhh okay 😂

thanks

[plain saffron]

5 days ago

[shell willow]

how long until the coinable pr bp resets? it says midnight iirc but idk which timezone

[steady beacon]

It's 4 hours after the daily reset

[shell willow]

thx

[steady beacon]

Would be about 1 hr, 15 mins from now

[shell willow]

[inland shoal]

So the battle screen is just slapped on top of the main screen?

[plain saffron]

Main ui? Or stage selection

[cobalt rapids]

home, stage selection, battle
it persists through all 3

[plain saffron]

It only happens with l2d to me

[inland shoal]

No wonder my phone is overheating when AL always animates all screens at once

[plain saffron]

Also new ui

Ouh i see now, so that's how they significantly reduce main ui loading time few years ago

Keep it there all the time

[cobalt rapids]

[plain saffron]

It wouldn't matter much if non l2d, so l2d secretary debuff your performance

[cobalt rapids]

pay 2 lose fr 😔

[inland shoal]

I doubt they differ between the 2

Just that their layering with moving effects has some issues

As has been visible in dorm for ages

[plain saffron]

I think those layer change between fights bug only happens on new ui

[cobalt rapids]

yes, at least hinden didnt have this before

[plain saffron]

First time i encounter them on friend's phone with new ui, I'm still using old

[sturdy badger]

Should I start doing War Archives? My main fleet lvl is around 97+-

[cobalt rapids]

if you need fdg tech

[sturdy badger]

fdg tech?

[cobalt rapids]

but only if ure done with event and u reached w12

[cobalt rapids]

KMS tech points to unlock the UR BB from season 2 in shipyard

[sturdy badger]

Ah, crap. I'm stuck at W9... So no War Archive for me?

Awww...

[cobalt rapids]

i mean u can start farming iron blood ships in chessboard

but only start doing pr grind when u are in w12

[sturdy badger]

Aight, tq!

[spice phoenix]

should i care about ship speed or damage more?

[tame jungle]

Why would you care about ship speed

[spice phoenix]

IX ships ig

[main latch]

Is it recommended to get saratoga her Custom augment ?

[thin anvil]

fastest way to get shouhou?

[south sequoia]

Guild shop

[thin anvil]

okau

[main latch]

Who should i prioritize Shinano or Mogador ?

[cobalt rapids]

shinano

[low harness]

how does AA works for main fleet? does it have a radius for AA like vanguard? is it the same for CV/CVL and BB/BC?

[polar venture]

My nano red is maxed. Is there another skill I should try and level?

[cobalt rapids]

AA Guns within the fleet are combined and averaged to deal AA gun damage. This means any AA guns equipped in the Main Fleet will act as though they were equipped in the escort fleet. AA guns will only fire when there are planes in the AA region indicated by the dotted line surrounding the escort fleet.
you can read more on https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Damage_Calculations#Anti-Air_Guns

the exception is time fuze aa

[cobalt rapids]

max all skills on ships u use

[kind slate]

do you guys usually use exp packs (the ones for lvling ships) on low lvl ships? or higher (like lvl 100)?

[cobalt rapids]

low till they survive in the stage im grinding

[kind slate]

so like lvl 90 for 12-1?

[cobalt rapids]

about that, depends on ships

[low harness]

Thank you

[ivory crown]

no other use for UR dupes other than limit break right

[eternal basalt]

Unless skins

[frank pulsar]

how does harbin compare to ply in personal dmg now that she has access to mog gun?

[cobalt rapids]

lower

[frank pulsar]

is the difference still big?

[cobalt rapids]

it wasnt big

i mean depends how u define big but ig they are close on light and heavy now

[calm rose]

i did try it on last month harbiter ~ 10 runs? they're around 5~10% difference in damage, plywood is the winning one

[cobalt rapids]

med should be plys winning armor vs harbin

so they are probably equal on light and mby even harbin higher on heavy

[hard mesa]

Ply still has 3mgm+ dmg bonus on light and med armor

[verbal ingot]

Is it worth replacing someone in fleet 1 and 2 with my UR's?

[frank pulsar]

no

[cobalt rapids]

none of ur URs are limit broken

[frank pulsar]

you have good ur but no limit break = no dmg

[warm cliff]

No mlb URs

[cobalt rapids]

10 min of pewing at sodakwash

[inland shoal]

Iirc they're spinning quite fast tho, dunno how representative that is for torp hit rate

But shouldn't make a huge difference I reckon

[cobalt rapids]

yea

i didnt watch the entire fight to count but the torps could align right between their spin and miss completly or they wil spin right back in to the torps and catch all or almost all

[frank pulsar]

its 10 minute fight, i dont think the rng matters as much

[cobalt rapids]

well if on average the torps miss more than smth like normal boss movement than its not rly representative since harbin has more bias on torps vs ply
10 min fight just averages the result but only within that fight

[frank pulsar]

this month harby is heavy right? you could try testing there

[calm rose]

i wanna try but my adapts is shit

[frank pulsar]

im kinda skipping opsi this month so i cant test outside of cm

[cobalt rapids]

i can but since arbi is short its more predisposed to rng

[frank pulsar]

do it multiple times ig

[calm rose]

time for more runs

[frank pulsar]

2 or 3 times should be fine

[whole crypt]

sup moggies

[crisp estuary]

[kind slate]

this is currently what im aiming to build for 14-3. Its gonna take a bit more time to get harbin built, but is this a decent objective? im also wondering if i should replace someone with a ddg

[whole crypt]

you probably want some HE for your boss fleet

[frank pulsar]

imho id swap harbin and shimanto, and sandwich kawa
otherwise looks fine to me

i forgot 14-3 is light

[whole crypt]

augment Kawakaze should be fine and this is 14 not 15, there's no need to stack the AA

that said I'm pretty sure Kawakze still wants a HP aux, not rudder

[atomic abyss]

Yes she definitely does...

[whole crypt]

Guam will likely want a bulge over toolkit too

[kind slate]

so mob: shimanto, kawa, guam
boss: ancho, harbin, agir?

[whole crypt]

honestly I would keep the vangaurd ships as they are

I don't see the point of the CL swap

[frank pulsar]

boss needs the dmg more

[whole crypt]

Shimanto with q152 is still plenty of DPS

[frank pulsar]

and if asw isnt enough drop shimanto for another ship with higher asw
or use another depth charge

[whole crypt]

personally I'd say the vanguards are fine where they are
one more change I might make is for BisZwei to use cert instead if you run into trouble with 0ammo

actually change Kawakaze's AA gun too she doesn't want a roomba

[kind slate]

aight. ill try to prepare these changes whilst finishing up harbin thnx guys

[frank pulsar]

^^^ staag/twin 90 is better for her

[sharp socket]

so im thinking of buying the 2400+2400 gem pakeji for dockspace and a nice skin, should i also get the remaining 3 dorm slots

[atomic abyss]

The last slot alone costs 1200
Get 5 at most lmao

[sharp socket]

alright nevermind

[late pike]

guys my FDG is dying in 10-1 i need help, this is her build

[craggy hedge]

Can anyone remind me again vanguard exp using vanguard ships had to put where in formation please? I'm forgot again

[wind elk]

Hello everyone, was wondering if someone would be willing to help me with my mob/boss fleets for 14-4. I have beaten the boss but only a handful of times so I feel like I am right there I just need something else.

[hollow gust]

1.Not MLB/Dev30
2.LVL99
3.Your fleet sucks

[atomic abyss]

4. No skill levels

[south sequoia]

Hindenburg needs to be swapped out

[atomic abyss]

Frontline

[craggy hedge]

So a full frontline will work?

[late pike]

tf do ya meant fleet sucks

[wind elk]

@south sequoia what ship should I swap her with?

[frank pulsar]

drop hinden, ancho and perseus

[south sequoia]

hindenburg is deadweight there since she is missing 2 stars and her damage is nothing notable if she doesn't have 3 mgm

[potent slate]

is prinz eugen good?

[hollow gust]

It's gear issues , those ships should clear w14 pretty easily . Although why tf are you using Percy and uni together

[atomic abyss]

No

[hollow gust]

Medicore to Bad

[south sequoia]

Show your vanguard ships on dock

[frank pulsar]

you can use ancho in boss as off tank, slot in another dps in mob and use a better cv like indep, impero or aquila

[soft raft]

on paper she has really good bulk but she's too expensive to raise for a newbie when Portland is right there

Realistically she's just Iron Blood tech points

[cobalt rapids]

@calm rose @frank pulsar
harbin died in the first 2 run at 13s mark before i gave her +13 eva auxes in 3rd run
con:
planes on endscreen
suicide botes who intercept harbin torps
alsace and soyuz timing favor harbin

[south sequoia]

swap in unzen over hindenburg

[frank pulsar]

great, you have unzen
swap in unzen into boss and move shima to mob

so your boss vanguard should be agir unzen ancho and yr mob shld be drake shima yuudachi

[wind elk]

Okay did that, so now I should replace Perseus with another shop for my mob fleet?

[frank pulsar]

yes, shes deadweight since you have unicorn

[soft raft]

Do you have Aquila or Volga

[wind elk]

Yeah I have both of them but never saw any better performance

Though what was awhile ago

[soft raft]

they would both be better overall as a secondary healer than Perseus

[frank pulsar]

more dmg is also an option, like saratoga, chkalov, independence, etc

[sharp socket]

when aiming bb on manual do i go for the head or the feet of the chibi

[cobalt rapids]

doesnt matter

[soft raft]

tbh just auto that shit
The damage bonus from manual fire isnt really noticeable

[sharp socket]

or centremass

[cobalt rapids]

theres no such thing as increased mods/bodypart

[sharp socket]

i want to know where the hitbox is

[plain saffron]

entire enemy

[sharp socket]

including their rigging?

[plain saffron]

nvm, i just read more, it's more like a box

[whole crypt]

for humanoids target whatever feels like the middlemost point of the chibi

[atomic abyss]

Isn't it a rectangular box

Following the chibi itself and not the rigging

[sharp socket]

so aiming the centre of the chibi is best

its just that the head consists of 50% or more of the chibi

[plain saffron]

#gameplay-help message yeah ish

[silk helm]

Anything good in the next patch?

[frank pulsar]

i roughly for neck whenever i manual, dont need to be 100% accurate to land the hit anyway

[wind elk]

Okay I put Aquila in for now and I'll level up Volga to see what works better, thanks everyone!

[whole crypt]

mid-torso is usually good

[cobalt rapids]

new augs, aegir story, joffre archive

[silk helm]

Any must get ships?

[cobalt rapids]

the only thing we know is what was in joffres event and for who the new augs are

[whole crypt]

it's just generally not really worth bothering with manually aiming BBs

[cobalt rapids]

archives dont get rateup anymore and no anyway

[wet prairie]

Are the archive ships good?

[cobalt rapids]

no

[wet prairie]

I thought they did, when did this change?

[cobalt rapids]

since UR archive

[wet prairie]

Bruh

[whole crypt]

with Shinano/NJ

welcome to being caught up
archive rateups are a trap anyway

[wet prairie]

I’m not caught up in terms of collection though

[whole crypt]

that's a you problem

pulling archive rateup was a horrible way to get collection anyway

[eternal basalt]

Eskimo:

[cobalt rapids]

idk if aquila wouldve gotten a rate up it mightve been advisable depending on acc stage/cubes

[wet prairie]

Welp time to wait for wishing well

[whole crypt]

so many moaning how reruns and new banners come after the archive rateup

[wet prairie]

So dead week?

[sharp socket]

i just notice alsace preload on auto always aims at the top of the chibi and misses while hood and soyuz tend to aim at the centre

[whole crypt]

preload is probably more of a spawn point aiming issue, or maybe movement

[twilit dew]

W13 Fleet Help

if anyone can give me any recommendations it would be appreciate it

[wind hazel]

when raising Graf as sole CV shitter, do you guys just forgo the ironblood requirement and slap parallel tb on her?

[frank pulsar]

iirc i didnt give her any gear

prob just use a junker or smth, not gonna make a big difference anyway since its just farming

[hollow gust]

Just get a German rocket

[wind hazel]

kinda sad watching the torpedo miss lol

[wind hazel]

ye probably gonna do this

[keen sable]

Pay to lose skin again?

[shell willow]

was the in game opsi port shop updated recently? im reading wiki and finding different quantities of items compared to what i see in game, and also i dont see this "area capture progress" thing mentioned anywhere

[astral laurel]

can bearn meta be LBed in other ways without this meta crystal?

[eternal basalt]

Quite a few months ago

[cobalt rapids]

if u are past ur first opsi reset u get the new shop yes, which isnt on wiki

tldr no more 3 day reset shenenigans, clear ur zones and then buy what u want

[eternal basalt]

Should be in META shop in the future (the crystals, not Bearn)

[shell willow]

great

[hollow gust]

Just grind the event currency , you can save the meta shop for skill books

[astral laurel]

i've been grinding but my priority is the mogador dupe

[eternal basalt]

Where do you read "area capture progress btw?

[eternal basalt]

Oh, ingame not on wiki... yeah, nobody updated it

[late pike]

i was able to use nagato insted of FDG and was able to win

[eternal basalt]

It's the amount of zones you need to secure to unlock that portion of the shop

[late pike]

also how important is LCK stat

[soft raft]

it's not something you can really build around so I just treat it as whatever

[late pike]

ic

[atomic abyss]

More impactful for frontliners since it affects their tankiness

[inland shoal]

Well you can also drop dupes which convert into that crystal

[whole crypt]

not like it matters since you don't pick ships or gear around luck

[atomic abyss]

Well for the good ships at least

[keen sable]

you wouldn't pick ykkz or nosh if their luck was 0

[atomic abyss]

Port also has high luck

Warkai was partly relevant because of her high luck lol

[keen sable]

fdg blind isn't a meme

[hard mesa]

every 10LCK=+1%hit rate and +1%eva rate

[keen sable]

which reminds me like room, FdS must have terrible eyesight?

[whole crypt]

yeh but the ships are picked as a whole, you're not going to pick a shitty ship with great luck over a good ship that has no luck

[undone plover]

2nd acc is against TOS right?
Is there a way to set it up and not breach TOS? Just wanna test a few things

[atomic abyss]

No it's not against tos

Selling of accounts is

[cobalt rapids]

playing multiple servers on same acc isnt
playing different account is

[undone plover]

So just use same email and all good?

[atomic abyss]

Aye

[undone plover]

Thanks

What is the oldest EN server?

[keen sable]

oh yeah, the myopia started when she was little

[plain saffron]

Yes

[atomic abyss]

Yes avrora

[undone plover]

What does it mean when it says hot on a server

[steady beacon]

Wait, so it's a violation to create two accounts on the same server is it?

[plain saffron]

No way more detail in EN patch notes
Even with images

When deva decided to set it's label to hot probably

[undone plover]

Dev bias

[plain saffron]

We don't know if server auto label it or dev set it up manually

[plain saffron]

Technically yes i think? Idk about guest though

[patent pivot]

hey naga

do you know if bullets apply debuff then dmg or vice versa?

[keen sable]

1. Awesome QoL

[plain saffron]

hey mario, tbh idk

thorin knows more i think

[patent pivot]

hey naga, just asked him and he thought it was debuff first but wasnt confident
was hoping you just magically knew

[steady beacon]

Well that saves me trouble then
Was contemplating starting a fresh one to feed my main archive META fights bc I feel bad bugging others
If it'll get me in trouble, though, then I can at least ditch this idea with a clear conscience...

[whole crypt]

what is this hey siri?

[undone plover]

What server are u on pilica?
I dont mind feeding you

[rapid grail]

please bug me more i don't have any incentive to do dossier fights

[tawdry sluice]

We have any fleet guides for this months challenge mode?

[steady beacon]

Much appreciated man, but I still feel bad even so lol

[cobalt rapids]

musashi is dmg first debuff after

[steady beacon]

Amagi
But seriously, don't feel obliged
Pick whichever server you feel like making a second account in

[whole crypt]

same as last year just try looking for clear vids from last year

[tawdry sluice]

Didn't know they were repeats, thanks for the info

[plain saffron]

i don't do much digging on bullets nowadays, i'm more to...other stuff

[patent pivot]

~~like dungeon IDs for the node stats 🤞 ~~

[plain saffron]

ngl i forgot about that

[plain saffron]

refresh in few minutes

[patent pivot]

le pogre

[sullen gale]

how to get ur event currency?

[hollow gust]

farm event

[sullen gale]

UR one too?

[inland shoal]

Daily missions, SP, minigame, d3 missions

[eternal basalt]

Check UR tab under the events

[inland shoal]

Other than that buy from shop for normal event currency

[sullen gale]

ah yea i see now okay

[eternal basalt]

If you kept up 75 had to be bought in the shop for second copy

[steep estuary]

Guys just to make sure, Béarn Meta Crystal can still be bought after the event right?

[cobalt rapids]

yes

but with meta currency

[steep estuary]

Alright then, gonna spend my event points on other stuff

[sullen gale]

i just starting to notice it today, am i cooked

[eternal basalt]

You can easily get 1 copy

[heady pier]

so i have 14k gems rn what should i get for prioty? like dorms training and docks?

i wont be using all of it tho because i might get 4-5 skins i guess

[cobalt rapids]

dorm and dock yea

3 slots + 2nd floor

[sullen gale]

aight then

[heady pier]

by 3 slots you mean extra 3 or just extra one so its 3+3_

[cobalt rapids]

just one so its 3 + 3

u want multiple of 6 for morale regen on grinding with full fleets

extra slots till 12 wont do anything and 12 is only if ure suuuuper active

[eternal basalt]

6 is VERY expensive

[heady pier]

do i also buy training slot?

[cobalt rapids]

nah, not worth

[undone plover]

FdK wants flag right?

[eternal basalt]

Not when FS5

[undone plover]

I meant the smol one

[tame jungle]

Little freddy

[eternal basalt]

Doesn't seem like it

[vocal cedar]

Should I buy Drake’s gun BP or Plymouth’s gun BP? I have one of each at +13. And I already bought all Tenrai’s BP.

[stone sluice]

Can you feed your friends dorms?

[wary timber]

Should I prioritise homecoming missions or modernise my ships? I have a homecoming mission telling me to get a type 1 AP shell and another telling me to upgrade it to lv11. On the other hand I have my Anshan ready to be modernised and all I'm missing is the missile for her. Any tips on which I should follow

[cobalt rapids]

plymouth

[cobalt rapids]

follow homecoming mission
shells are higher prio than ddg anyway

[undone plover]

No lol
Pilica meant starting old META showdown and asking him for support
He wants to test fleet comps against the old META bosses but u get limited attempts personally and after 70k milestone u cant start them anymore yourself. Only way would be if a friend asks for help

U get nothing for helping friends tho

[livid badger]

do i need an UR bulin to retrofit a sr? or just the shop item

[cobalt rapids]

u need gold bulins + retro item

[livid badger]

ah its gold, tyty

[undone plover]

Or a dupe

[wary timber]

Fine I'll get the damn shell. The Anshan can wait I guess

[cobalt rapids]

doesnt the mission refund the coredata anyway ?

[novel solstice]

The shell is great for pretty much any battleship, so you'll definitely want it anyway.

[keen sable]

go crazy. 5+5 dorm.

[wary timber]

Nope

[cobalt rapids]

i remember it giving alot of coredata, mustve missremembered mb

[eternal basalt]

20 gold parts, even better

[zinc turret]

is it worth it to do sp stage if i already buy the mogador dupe ?

[cobalt rapids]

if u still need event points

[steady beacon]

You get to test though
That's not nothing

[stone sluice]

Hold on, what is that?

[eternal basalt]

Why buy the dupe and then do sp

[cobalt rapids]

homecoming campaign

[wary timber]

It doesn't give back core data

[cobalt rapids]

these do

[wary timber]

Not enough to get my missile

[cobalt rapids]

partial refund
but cant even call it refund when shells are top prio in coredata shop
only if u alr had like over 3 whites mby then but not rly

[eternal moth]

Just keep doing hardmode every day, you'll get it eventually

[wary timber]

Eh

True. I only have 1059 core data. Was either saving for oxytorp or enough to buy a battery + snorkel for my subs

[cobalt rapids]

how many shells do u have

[wary timber]

Or a missile and something else.

[eternal moth]

Both of those options are far inferior to missile or shells

[daring jasper]

I got 10k+ core data

[cobalt rapids]

very nice

[eternal moth]

Oxy is WAY down the list

[daring jasper]

But yeah shells the most valuable one

[wary timber]

I just came back early this week from a ...uhhh maybe 1 year ish hiatus lol

[cobalt rapids]

if u dont have over 3 shells at +13 then both these missions are worth doing

[wary timber]

Well shit imma do just that then

My NJ would appreciate having that instead of ... whatever I gave her

[eternal moth]

White shell is number 1 priority for core data for a BB

[daring jasper]

You gave NJ pure oxygen torpedo?

[wary timber]

Actually she has a fire control radar on that slot lol

[eternal moth]

And what's the other slot?