gameplay-help

[half plover]

is this good?

[uncut oar]

Yes, when in doubt use this

[soft raft]

mainly to maintain lvl advantadge/parity or minimize lvl disadvantadge in W14 and 15

[half plover]

better than the gold quad non mags?

[uncut oar]

Yes, you generally just use gold quadmag

[undone plover]

best torpedo on auto for most ships
only certain ships like anchorage and shimanto run faster (worse) torps for barrage/skill spam

[soft raft]

better on auto yee
Mainly because they're magnetic

[half plover]

oooh nice I think it is my first

[dapper axle]

Well, that's fairly a lot, I guess worth for URs at least, thanks everyone

[spice phoenix]

which meta ships are worth getting?

[whole crypt]

URs are usually safe picks, but basically anything you'll take to ch14/15, also makes arb/harb easier

[soft raft]

the Elite ones are dogshit outside of fleet tech (unless its Fortune META if you #pvp )
the SR ones are all basically "Good but better options exist" with some of them giving good fleet tech

[whole crypt]

you mean which META ships are worth getting
most of them aren't particularly of priority but you can try to pick up Helena META I guess

[dapper axle]

I don't really do campaign, but yeah, kinda need this for hard arbiter

[spice phoenix]

is it possible to retire META ships or nah? (i might be eternally stuck with these terrible cruise unlocks)

[jaunty vault]

na

[soft raft]

no but as of a few weeks ago, they no longer take up dock space anyways

[tame jungle]

no but they also don't take up dock space anymore

[spice phoenix]

NOOOOOOOO

oh

[fresh tangle]

When you’re 3* new stages you don’t full clear right away do you? Generally you go to boss and reset until threat level is safe?

[severe lily]

Do I clear all mobs on SP or just untill the boss ?

[jaunty vault]

until boss

[tame jungle]

iirc no clear all enemies reward on SP

[jaunty vault]

if the stage is easy, you can clear right away

SP doesn't have any stars

or any rewards associated with Stars, yes

[fresh tangle]

Yeah I’m on 9-4 and using one or two ships that maybe are a little under levelled 😂 but first clear was fine. Using my mobbing fleet more as a leveling fleet atm and just got Laffey to 120 so had a spot open up

[spice phoenix]

are ex stages worth the rewards or no?

[jaunty vault]

if youre farming levels, you should bring the stage down to safe

[jaunty vault]

500 cog chips are more than worth one fight

especially if you're into fleet tech farming

[whole crypt]

well worthwhile and being able to clear it are separate things

[muted forge]

How do I start my unicorn retrofit journey

[undone plover]

select node > pay price
u will need to farm carrier retro BP which u can do in hard mode x-4 maps
for example 3-4, 4-4, 5-4 etc

[muted forge]

What is pay price 🧍‍♂️

[tame jungle]

the price

[muted forge]

Ohhh

Thank you

Is there more of a higher chance at getting carrier retro bp drops if I farm 5-4 instead of 3-4?

[undone plover]

maybe but not sure
u will want to do the higher one anyway for the coredata

[soft raft]

we have no idea but farm the highest world you can anyways because higher world = more core data per run

[cobalt rapids]

but higher coredata is guaranteed

[undone plover]

u also only get 3 attempts per day so dont slack

[uncut oar]

Since you're new it may be worth considering cheesing for the 3* reward retro bps too

[spice phoenix]

is bearn META worth, niche, or not worth?

[pliant lily]

should I still build if I already got alsace or build in another banner?

[soft raft]

She's decet but overall not a high priority

[pliant lily]

(dont have many ships)

[soft raft]

go back to your daily light pull if you dont want anyone else on the banner

[undone plover]

save unless u want the other event ships for collection purposes. even then probably still better to save cubes

[uncut oar]

If you need other banner ships it's fine to build, if you're v close to pity it's fine to build, if you're low I would save and go to light

[pliant lily]

whats daily light pull?

[uncut oar]

There's a daily that rewards 800 coins/1 cube/quick finishers

So you just do 1 light pull to do it since you're cube neutral, it's free coins and drills

[soft raft]

You do 1 pull on this banner for the daily mission

[pliant lily]

so I should pull there right? what about the limited banner?

[soft raft]

not worth it
especially if you're below 400-600 cubes

unless you set it to light pool ships and you do your daily light there instead

[pliant lily]

ahh, so I save my cubes and dont pull in any banner basically?

[jaunty vault]

pull on events

[soft raft]

the basic TLDR is
Outside of events: 1 light pull per day
During events: Event banner then back to 1 light pull per day once you get the UR and/or everyone you want off the banner

[pliant lily]

I only dont have vrennus and bearn meta from the event banner

[uncut oar]

For context the reason why you save 400 cubes is 400 guarantees you can build to pity for the UR as long as you have enough coins for the next banner

[pliant lily]

and got 41 pity so far

[uncut oar]

It's technically a bit higher than required because you have cube income during a banner too, but it's just easier to save 400

[soft raft]

then you're not really missing much
Alsace is pratically the only major highlight from this banner in terms of pratical usage

[pliant lily]

ahh okay, thanks for the help everyone!

[undone plover]

the event will rerun in a couple of years
even if u care about collection u can get them later when it reruns. we might get a UR rerun before the new UR and u want all cubes u can save for that

[pliant lily]

is there a gap between the global and the original server?

[undone plover]

none that matters

[soft raft]

CN, JP, and EN are all synced in terms of content outside of being behind a minor WA

[pliant lily]

ahhh, I was gonna ask if there was a planner for upcoming events if that were the case

[undone plover]

for new events we dont usually know much till 1 week before the event

for older events rerunning we can guess based on original running order but also sometimes they rerun stuff out of order so cant say anything for certain

[craggy lance]

youll also need a uni dupe or a bulin for the "modernization" node
this is in addition to what you need to MLB her

just fyi

[dense birch]

should i grind event B3 or just continue story mode? i feel super lost tbh since i don't feel like i am getting stronger

[undone plover]

event is worth more since u can buy a lot of useful stuff with the event tokens
if u feel like u are struggling open a thread, screenshot your current fleet so we make sure you are not doing anything to hurt your progress
but the first few days are a bit slow since u cant rly do much to rush it
u are gated by morale, oil, bad gear etc

[dense birch]

thanks for sharing. yeah it feels bad since i started the game for morgador but realised i can't get her haha. open a thead here you mean?

[whole crypt]

did you play the minigame

[undone plover]

sure thing
we might be able to help u get her if u want her that badly
just need to look at where u stand currently
it wont be easy but wouldnt say impossible
but iirc u said u got alsace already so dont feel too bad
getting a UR for your first event is rly good and she will do more for u than mogador in the long run

[fossil shard]

Which toro should shimanto get?

[whole crypt]

you should be fairly close to 200 vouchers as long as you've been doing daily stuff and cleared B3 with event ships

[soft raft]

I gave her french triple torps

[dense birch]

the pipe one? i did and now i have 125 tickets

[whole crypt]

have you done the B3 missions that ask you to bring one of the event ships to it

[soft raft]

that's not too bad
should be able to grind out the remaining 75 easily enough if you can get roughly at most 11,500 event pts

[fossil shard]

Which torpedo should shimanto get?

[soft raft]

#gameplay-help message

[dense birch]

i suppose increasing star of UR units is very hard for newbies right? should i induce Cognitive Awakening to increase level cap of UR unit to 105?

[undone plover]

blaster answered here #gameplay-help message

[soft raft]

UR ships dont have lvl caps based off of Limit break lvl like regular ships do
but you should still keep them on the bench until they're MLB

it's not neccesarily hard per say, it just takes more time

[fossil shard]

Thank you

[dense birch]

i see, because there is an option for awakening at level 100...

[dapper token]

any alsace build

[kind needle]

She any better than An Shan or Chang Chun or just the same?

[soft raft]

same thing as usual with BBs

[keen sable]

You only need 10k event points for remaining 65 mouchers. Is that not already achieved?

[dapper token]

aight mk7 it is

[heady pier]

should i break their level cap ? or save for now? or the ones are not 100 lvl are worth more ?

[soft raft]

all ships have that option
Awakening just increases the lvl cap in increments of 5 up to lvl 125

[cobalt rapids]

highest dmg among ddgs in full fleet

[soft raft]

yes you will want to as you progress through campaign
enemy lvls go up to lvl 129 but by that point is where you're more stringient on who you uncap from lvl 120

[keen sable]

And were you able to push into D1?

[heady pier]

yeah i can actually do solo fleet D1 and have been farmin for a 3-4 days

[keen sable]

What about d2

[meager gyro]

just finished mainz, who should i start next?

[heady pier]

probably can do it but i heard d1 is better at farmin point no?

[steady acorn]

I have a question with gems (the red things) management, What should I prioritize its use for I tried reading online but couldnt hold myself on a concrete answer.

[keen sable]

D3?

[heady pier]

never tried will try when their energy got back up

[soft raft]

With F2P gems?
Outside of 2nd floor of dorm and 3rd dorm slot if you grind alot, it's all in on Dock space

[keen sable]

Yes to the 4 L100's

[steady acorn]

Between F2P and paid is there a difference in choices ones make ?

[heady pier]

whats that mean? 4 L100s?

[soft raft]

Yes
if you use the 💳 , you can possibly buy all dorm slots but the main thing with whaling is being able to buy skins, which is highly inadvisable with F2P gems

[craggy hedge]

Should i try to get Perseus to pale up with Uni since like w12 are a lot harder with only Uni right?

[keen sable]

Helena, enterprise both meta and 120. Portland and jav safe to 105

[soft raft]

not necessarily

Perseus has little reason to exist with Unicorn retrofit being a thing

[craggy hedge]

Alright, then i will keep farming for Uni to lv120

[whole crypt]

there's generally not much breathing room to buy skins and takes maybe years to get enough dock slots if you don't buy gems

[craggy hedge]

But also, what is other retrofit priority should i do next? Laffey, Uni, Portland, Nelson are all retrofit maxed

[soft raft]

if you want another healer to pair up with Unicorn, a secondary healer like Aquila or Volga would be a better choice as they can still dish out damage compared to Perseus being a deadweigth after her preloads are spent

[dense birch]

i don't understand...can you enlighten me on why we need so many docks? can't we just sell the low rarity ships?

[whole crypt]

collectors don't retire unique ships

[craggy hedge]

Is basically exp passively and morale recovery

[meager gyro]

?

[soft raft]

Helena then after that just whoever you want whenever you want

[craggy hedge]

And basically: A LOT OF SHIPS

[whole crypt]

dock, not dorm

[soft raft]

that's dorm not dock

[heady pier]

hmm ok so main goal is helene and enterprise to 120?

[undone plover]

even if u retire the commons/rares u still need a lot of space for the other ships
u also want 20-30 excess dockspace so u can repeat sortie x3 without getting interrupted

[craggy hedge]

Welp, i'm out of gold to make her to SR

[whole crypt]

Helena retrofit is super low priority

just take your time with it

[meager gyro]

which pr ship should i start next? just finished mainz

[whole crypt]

whichever you have the most prints of

[undone plover]

FdG/ any PR4

[soft raft]

if you already got FdG, all of PR4, and Plymouth, then whoever you want

[craggy hedge]

At least, in several x3 sorties since by chance i can maxed all enhanced to other fleets i used for Opsi, that a good thing

[meager gyro]

cant do any more pr4

[undone plover]

Then it doesnt matter. Do 1 each of PR1-3 if u havent already

[meager gyro]

got anchorage, ägir and avp

[whole crypt]

if you can't unlock them just do a ship that you can

it wouldn't matter if you don't have the prints anyway

[craggy hedge]

If i remember, is decisive ship require like 500+ blueprint?

[meager gyro]

cant do any pr2 and 3 anymore

(not enough tech points)

[whole crypt]

any PR1 you can do

like literally just any PR ship you can start dev go for it, it doesn't matter in the end when you don't have the prints for them

[meager gyro]

i could do odin, prinz rupprecht, felix schultz and hindenburg

[craggy hedge]

So, what is DR blueprint amount in order to achieve dev 30? i'm in the middle of brest, hindenburg is waiting for all research to unlock

[whole crypt]

roll a dice, flip a coin, doesn't matter all of those ships won't be of any use to you in the next 3 months

[cobalt rapids]

/devbp

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460648604974055424/885529968455598170/unknown.png

[craggy hedge]

395, both dev lv30 and the fate simulation itself

[crisp wadi]

Should i focus pr6? done with 4&5. Have 2 tenrai and 2 plygun alrd, or do i need more?

[cobalt rapids]

ure good to move to 6

[craggy hedge]

Wow, that why it take me like forever to get 49 brest blueprint

[whole crypt]

hit up PR6 so you won't be horribly late for PR7

[cobalt rapids]

for a short while

[keen sable]

That's fine eventually. Excessive level advantage won't do much right now. You obviously want to awaken alsace also but all this will get expensive so pick your ships carefully

[whole crypt]

also https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[meager gyro]

i started felix schultz, idk

[crisp wadi]

So who should i focus? Hinden or Kear?

[heady pier]

well for now im just doing solo fleet2 on d1 to get their levels up to 100+ so i can actually awaken stuff on fleet2

[undone plover]

u have done the important shipyard ships. as long as u have a ship to coin u can relax and do whoever u like next. felix is fine. hindy is fine. anyone is fine

[whole crypt]

you just need to know whichever ship you do, the ship is not going to be in a usable state for the next month at least even if you finish dev

[keen sable]

D3 is far better than D1. You should invest in it. Also one fleeting hurts progression because morale

[meager gyro]

none of my pr ships are useable anyway

[whole crypt]

not if you don't do reserach

[keen sable]

Well that's scary considering anchorage is usable like day 1

[heady pier]

well i can now do fleet1 for only bossing and the other fleet2 mobbing so i can actually do normally stages so should i just do that?

[whole crypt]

he probably didn't do catchup or any PR4 to have Anchorage prints

[keen sable]

Do you not need event points?

[meager gyro]

?

[whole crypt]

what dev level is your anchorage

[keen sable]

Even if you sent it to avp, avp usable then

[meager gyro]

23

[heady pier]

i bought bunch of stuff but still need it im at 42k milage at event i think

[whole crypt]

23 is fair she just needs more levels to be an okay tank

but you probably want to get that to 25

[meager gyro]

i dont got gear for her anyway

[whole crypt]

when you have enough levels on her just take Roon's gear and put on her instead

even at d25 she'll be better than your completed Roon

[dense birch]

newbie qn:
-Do you use the double expend ticket when farming via sortie?
-How do you usually power level new units? exp data pack or just use the new ship on farming quests?

[whole crypt]

HELP also costs you twice oil and morale, you only use if it you're short on time or don't want to spend time
later in the game you'll generate XP packs rather regularly and can pump new ships fairly easily

[soft raft]

• only if you lack time to grind
• data packs (But you cant generate these by yourself without lvl 100+ ships), dorm, actual sorties

[keen sable]

I would keep farming. Plenty of free stuff left like arrays and bearn

[heady pier]

so no need to do story for now and focus on event farmin?

[keen sable]

If I like the ship I will use it from L1 on 12-. Otherwise book to 70/mlb and 12-

[heady pier]

and also why is d3 is important whats the difference with d1?

[cobalt rapids]

more pts per oil + chance at bearm so saving 8k

[keen sable]

Is just flat out better

[whole crypt]

D3 is just better efficiency overall and can drop the shop SR

[keen sable]

Beside more relative everything it's more absolute everything so less morale used = grind more

[whole crypt]

the only reason to really grind D1 is if you can't do D3

[heady pier]

hmm okay im just doin d2 2-3 star so i can try to do d3 probably cant but might aswell try

[whole crypt]

I won't guarantee you can clear D3 but at this point there's no harm at least trying

but even if you fail it should give a fair idea of how far short you are

[keen sable]

The boss van seems low level but uni should carry mob

[whole crypt]

well when I scrolled up to see his ships I'm not super confident of the levels and gear

that's roughly parity level?

slightly below even

[keen sable]

Fair enough. Been seeing that in the sp challenged

[keen sable]

We don't know how much xp is stored if any

[heady pier]

my main fleet almost everyone stuck at 3m exp

but yeah second fleet is not even 100lvl atm

[whole crypt]

if you can get the ships to average 105+ and properly geared then D3 shouldn't be an issue

[heady pier]

well if i cant d3 i can do d1 and upgrade my both fleets to good amount and might try d3

even if i cant do d3 this event eventually ill be able to do next one

[lament bay]

do i need to max 2nd skill?

[whole crypt]

for CV fleet S1 is the important one, if you're going to use her might as well level everything

[lament bay]

and i have to level her to 125 too?

[whole crypt]

you don't have to, but again, preferable

[keen sable]

D3 is most definitely not an issue. Just swap a 120 port with like juneau. And you are losing xp by not awakening

[whole crypt]

one quirk Sirius has is her CV buff persists even if she sinks, so you're not losing too much even if you lose her in a boss fight from not having those 5 levels

[lament bay]

im basically out of arrays so i should prob invest more carefully

[keen sable]

Sirius best tank

[whole crypt]

this is only for OS CV fleet though

if for regular campaign and events Sirius has very low priority

[lament bay]

yeah i use her for mob fleet

or i can move kazagumo/sirius to shinano fleet once i built that

[heady pier]

yeah ill use the fleet2 more since i can do with them too

[weary fog]

Does Grobe dev30 outclass hood and nelson in both boss and mob fleet as flagship BB?

[eternal basalt]

Grosse is still great, quite something for a Pr2

[weary fog]

Azuma and Drake basically sidelined at this day and age?

[forest palm]

they start making more SSR BBs like Owari that statement won't hold for long

[whole crypt]

they've been sidelined for a while now, provided you have the options

[eternal basalt]

Drake got dismissed at release

[uncut oar]

PRake

[weary fog]

Mm not rlly only UR I have and using r Alsace and Kronshadt

[forest palm]

Drake was fine on release

[weary fog]

But since it takes so long to gear a ship properly I might as well focus on high priority targets

[uncut oar]

On a more serious note, if I had to choose between Haku and Nano's tenrais, whose would I upgrade first?

[eternal basalt]

Haku

[forest palm]

it's hyperbolic to down cast Drake, or Azuma when the amount of permanent ships, and number of ships better than they are small in number, and the ships that Drake, and Azuma are better than are a lot

[whole crypt]

Drake had a slight revival on ch14 launch because she could mob tank and was very good at hitting BBs

[eternal basalt]

Azuma are like half a dozen better ones now...

[whole crypt]

and for what's supposed to be a damage CA they didn't go full ham on her DPS like they did with Hindenburg, so overall the package didn't work out

it's less of bad and more of not worth the investment

[viscid swift]

Meh, I have absolutely no qualms about putting down Azuma or Drake when Azuma's replacements are literally easier to get and better.

And Drake just does nothing of note at this point.

[lethal heath]

Drake and Josh-

[uncut oar]

Speaking of, I've never really understood I guess because obviously I'm still working on Kear and don't have her, but just how insane is Hinden damage?

[viscid swift]

literally the highest damage vanguard in the game

[uncut oar]

I need something a little less abstract. Gimme a yardstick.

[viscid swift]

uhhh

[forest palm]

a BB in the vanguard

[uncut oar]

Been away a little too long, I'm curious as to how far out front she is

[undone plover]

Is that dependent on her having 2 +13 ur guns?

[uncut oar]

Okay yeah that tracks.

Also, yeah, because at that point I'm asking theoretical

[forest palm]

Hinden should operate fine with 2 +10 Main Guns

[whole crypt]

this is my normby this month, Hindenburg is basically Unzen ballpark, for modern DPS vanguards

[weary fog]

Any particular ships i shld work on for PR/DR first? Alr got the obvious candidates like Anchorage and Grobe

[uncut oar]

Right, so essentially a decent SR BB's damage

[wild whale]

agir/haku

[weary fog]

I guessing only the DRs are relevant? (maybe Harbin / Shimanto?)

[whole crypt]

if you have that it helps, but similarly you lose damage not using +13 guns on your BBs even if they still kill fine on +10s

[eternal basalt]

Cheshire for her skin

[keen sable]

Who you dev is fairly irrelevant

[whole crypt]

and yes I use 2 +13 hindenburg guns on my hindenburg

[uncut oar]

And if it's between Nano and Haku's catas which ones do I upgrade first?

[weary fog]

If so many of the older PR (and DR) ships r irrelevant, I FS5 them mainly to get them out of appearing during research?

[whole crypt]

if Hakuryuu has FS5 Hakuryuu, if not then Shinano

[patent pivot]

+13 is I think 16% increase to hinde dmg, she also gets a 15% buff from the best BB in the game which doesn't hurt

[uncut oar]

I do infact have the plates to spare at this point on catas, I feel like upgrading them is better value than upgrading a washing machine

Yeah Haku does have FS5, I'll upgrade Haku's then

[whole crypt]

but my Hindenburg is in mob fleet

[eternal basalt]

18% PER gun (+6% in OPS)

[uncut oar]

Which BB, for somebody out of the loop?

[viscid swift]

Bismarck Zwei

[whole crypt]

BisZwei

[keen sable]

What is your focus?

[patent pivot]

Not 100% of her dmg is gun

[uncut oar]

Oh right. IB buff.

[whole crypt]

+6% in ops is basically irrelevant since she's a DR, you'll be capping out her ops bonus

[weary fog]

I don't really have a focus...? I could use any of them in my fleet since I don't have much URs

[uncut oar]

Also 18% per gun doesn't sound right because you have 2 guns and upgrading 1 gun only affects half your gun damage...?

[viscid swift]

give that a read then https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[keen sable]

What is your research focus. You have to have one and if you don't you need one.

[cobalt rapids]

her first slot is mgm2, her third slot is mgm1....

[eternal basalt]

Oh, right, research ship...

[whole crypt]

if you +13 both guns

[weary fog]

Ohh right now its Anchorage

[viscid swift]

that's catchup not research focus

what does the number next to reearch focus say for you

[weary fog]

I didn't know that existed.

[patent pivot]

She has torpedoes and barrages, a vast majority of her dmg is gun but not 100%. So a 18% gun dmg buff is not a 18% overall buff, it's a bit lower

[weary fog]

I always thought its referring to catchup

[icy mountain]

now that i can research anchorage, i should prioritize getting KMS techpoints for fdg right?

[keen sable]

That's catchup but assuming you need to focus 4 to finish agir and haku, harbin and shimanto are dead to you. You will likely skip their seasons for 7

[whole crypt]

we don't know what's coming for 7 but finishing Anchorage, Agir and Hakuryuu you'll still want to do 5 for Plymouth and q152s

[weary fog]

How bout Brest

[whole crypt]

Plymouth more important

[viscid swift]

All we know is either Venezia, Brindisi, or Napoli as a DR next season. That's it.

[whole crypt]

are those pasta CA candidates?

[weary fog]

Wait so this whole time I could have focused on PR 4 gear and blueprints by selecting research focus

[viscid swift]

DRs yes

[eternal basalt]

Watch it be none of them, like our Alaska predictions

[whole crypt]

selecting a focus makes 3/5 of the researches each refresh to be of that focused series
it also makes "retired" series PR1-3 stop spawning

[whole crypt]

well we basically know for sure a pasta DR CA is coming, unless devs were screwing with us

I just don't know what the options are since I don't WoWs

[keen sable]

If you're willing to delay 7 by at least 3 months by all means research something like 5 after 4

[viscid swift]

like we said, we don't know how good PR7 will be

[whole crypt]

that really depends on what they give us in PR7, but Plymouth is tried and tested

[viscid swift]

saying it'll have priority over 5 and 6 is premature at best

[keen sable]

You can wait for 7 tiering to make that decision

[whole crypt]

if 7 comes with some amazeballs ships then sure go for 7

[weary fog]

Hm then I have another qn. Is there any point in developing and FS5 ships from PR 1-3

[whole crypt]

you can do those with coins over time

FdG is still great in particular

[weary fog]

Am I suppose to develop and FS5 every ship in 1 PR before moving on to the next?

[keen sable]

200k 6m xp for +1 Eva? Sign me up

[whole crypt]

the FS of other PR1-3 ships range from decent to meh, but if you're using the ship FS is better than no FS

[cobalt rapids]

this could be the same case as 6 rn how 5 is still recommended before it , i dont see why 7 couldnt possibly be the same

[whole crypt]

I mean to this day we still recommend people to start with 4 when they can get around to Anchorage/Agir

[weary fog]

Doubt I will be using most of them. I rmb developing Monarch to dev30 cuz the community beginner guide said shes a monster and everyone told me hood/nelson is btr

[whole crypt]

it might change when it reaches the retirement pool, who knows

[keen sable]

The point remains who you dev is irrelevant. It's not even the hard part.

[cobalt rapids]

thats true

[eternal basalt]

And they refused to give Agir her FS

[whole crypt]

they didn't refuse, it just hasn't happened

[keen sable]

But trying to fs5 Harbin and shimanto from 0 at the same time doesn't work

[whole crypt]

chances are it'll come with PR4 retirement like FdG

[eternal basalt]

FdG came with her catch-up... all DRs bar Agir have

[whole crypt]

I don't remember the dates but can we just ignore that 30 print catchup think and consider "when PR4 goes to coining"

which was precisely what happened to FdG

[eternal basalt]

January?

[boreal wagon]

fate sims releasing with catchup for DRs is just factually incorrect

according to that logic Sep 2023 and Jan 2024 would be the same dates

[eternal basalt]

Except 4 out of 5 times it was

[viscid swift]

can we just stop with copium, Agir's Fate Sim will come out when it comes out

[eager mulch]

ok

[eternal basalt]

I forgot we got Drake in May 22 before FdG in Jan 23

[vivid panther]

is there any alternative to unicorn? She dies too easily (lv84) faster than Helena

[cobalt rapids]

there sidegrades/downgrades but uni is at the top

[atomic abyss]

If unicorn is dying
You are doing something very very wrong

[vivid panther]

like what?

[cobalt rapids]

where is she dying

[vivid panther]

in game

[atomic abyss]

On what content

[cobalt rapids]

[atomic abyss]

Which event or story map

Then the next question is, what is the fleet you're using

[cobalt rapids]

if u want help we gotta cooperate

[atomic abyss]

My first guess is that you're running 3 CVs and there's nothing to intercept suicide boats

[weary fog]

For boss fleet, does Independence replace Enterprise in terms of damahe?

[keen sable]

Show fleet

[atomic abyss]

Independence is more for mobbing
The only things that can replace enty in boss fleets are the UR CVs

[atomic abyss]

[viscid swift]

and in what content is she dying?

[weary fog]

Doesn't Saratoga fulfil this role pretty well also?

[whole crypt]

Unicorn is taking just about 30-40% more damage than anyone else in that fleet

[atomic abyss]

She does, but independence is better in some cases

[whole crypt]

I'm guessing she's being shelled/suicide boated in ch9 with those levels

[eager mulch]

saratoga doesn’t have a crossfleet

[atomic abyss]

W10/11 probably
Not w9

[whole crypt]

9 starts hurting already, 10 is where it gets significantly worse
that Unicorn is underleveled regardless

[undone plover]

for the mini event reruns what do you get instead of the skin if u already have it?

[whole crypt]

coins

[whole crypt]

in case you're missing the whole conversation your Unicorn is just underleveled and those levels look like you're moving into stages where you can take a lot of main fleet damage from suicide boats and shelling
the only solutions are to kill faster and/or get Unicorn more levels

[lament bay]

does helena skill not work in opsi? i'm not seeing it activate even after several resets

[cobalt rapids]

rng is rng

[soft raft]

that's just RNG for you

[whole crypt]

just in case, did she sink in a battle before

[lament bay]

i healed her

[whole crypt]

with repair kits or in port

[soft raft]

but does she have a repair wrench symbol next to her picture?

[whole crypt]

yeh they still have toll debuff

[soft raft]

ok then her skill has been hard locked
you need to heal at port to get rid of that wrench symbol

[lament bay]

i see

[whole crypt]

ships that have sunk in a fight will take toll of war debuff and skills stop working
you need to repair in port or use repair order/redeploy

[lament bay]

is there some other debuff as well? im going against equilibrium, but from reading their skill on the wiki, i dont see a screen blackout as a skill and it does it in my fight

that doesnt let me use main fleet skills

[soft raft]

that's one of the abyssal/enforcer's skills

[cobalt rapids]

theres another debuff called low resolve, but equilibrium skill doesnt have to do with that its just hidden

[lament bay]

where can i read their hidden skills like those, or do they change

[cobalt rapids]

idr being others
equilibriums blackout is fixed, just modifiers will change

[kind slate]

When it says 2 days left for Rodney meta, does that mean i can do the (2 self + 3 assist) 2 times or 1 time?

[cobalt rapids]

2 more resets except today

[keen sable]

Or 2 if you already did today

[forest palm]

with today included there are 15 runs left

[kind slate]

Thnx guys. For a second I thought I got my timings wrong

[steady beacon]

That's what usually gets you with RodM

[tired condor]

for some reas9n every research i get is chkalov and harbin

no other ships shows up in my research

[abstract aspen]

Is there a chance for them to add more ur ships in the ur exchange?

[cobalt rapids]

there is

[cobalt rapids]

if you completed the other ships from the season to their max dev lvl (30/fs5) faces from them will stop appearing
but completing ply brest and ruppy before chkalov and harbin is unlikely so rng just rng

[eager mulch]

[tired condor]

rigged rng

[turbid nebula]

How much better are the new event URs compared to the current other ships?

[eager mulch]

not the best

[stone sluice]

When playing Tai Yuan I don’t see any missiles, how do they work?

[eager mulch]

look harder, they’re pretty fast

[cobalt rapids]

alsace is a ur bb among ur bbs but on the upper floor
mog is pocket hinden

[viscid swift]

missiles are a blink and you'll miss type of deal

[eager mulch]

so don’t blink

[stone sluice]

[signal plover]

Guys
Is it normal for plymouth to be this based?

[eager mulch]

yes

[signal plover]

She is at lvl 120 while unzen at 125 too

[eager mulch]

ply was one of if not the highest vanguard dps before unzen and Hindenburg

[signal plover]

Well, unzen should be more motivated then

[tired condor]

does unzen and hinden do more damage?

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[eager mulch]

yes

[signal plover]

Unzen is for light armor or she is supposed to be better in every scenario?

[cobalt rapids]

every

[eager mulch]

unzen is mixed

[signal plover]

Then I think I screwed up

Anything I can change?

[cobalt rapids]

i thought unzen was at 125

[signal plover]

Ok

My bad

Still, anything I should change to actually make unzen more powerful?

[cobalt rapids]

gear is situational

[signal plover]

Gotcha

[cobalt rapids]

the gear u have is good but might not be the best depending on content

[signal plover]

Yeah, just noticed those are he weapons aka no. Good for heavy bosses
What are the best ap weapons for cruisers?

[cobalt rapids]

drake gun is best for heavy but hindenburg gun same aswell
plygun is best on all armors

[mental marlin]

should i switch my lv 115 hood with augment vs lv 100 alsace with worse weapons and no augment?

[signal plover]

Sadly I don't have tohose yet

Any gold counterpart?

[cobalt rapids]

you can switch gears
swap alsace if shes mlb and same lvl as hood

[mental marlin]

mlb?

[cobalt rapids]

check sams guide in /equip

[signal plover]

Ok, thx

[cobalt rapids]

max limit break, aka full stars

[mental marlin]

ah ok i see

[signal plover]

Btw I probably know why unzen did less
she died toward the end of boss fight

Ok that I put Plymouth in the middle but she is crazy tanky for a cl

This time she survived

@viscid swift sorry for ping
thx for gear reccs btw
Event ex boss really went down faster

[viscid swift]

no proble

[tired condor]

is the meta 3 bb or 2 bb and a carrier

[cobalt rapids]

depends on content

[soft raft]

depends on the content

[sweet delta]

meta for what

[dawn hamlet]

Hi I'm not a big fan of portland, can I replace her with Yat Sen?

[sweet delta]

Only if there's another Chinese ship in the fleet

[cobalt rapids]

post retro if sortied with another DE

[soft raft]

if she's retro and you have another chinese ship in the fleet sure
Also you have to raise Portland for your rookie missions anyways

[tired condor]

meta for general content idk

[dawn hamlet]

ah ... I don't have any other DE I think

[eager mulch]

there’s a meta for general content?

[sweet delta]

The meta for general content is to build for specific content

[dawn hamlet]

oh I'm done with rookie missions I think

[soft raft]

not specific enough
still too vauge

[dawn hamlet]

but alright gonna wait until I get another DE to build Yat Sen then, thanks guys

[cobalt rapids]

you can grab a day1 port replacer for 15$

[eager mulch]

wasn’t the meta for general content 6 good ships for the content you’re doing?

[dawn hamlet]

ah PR voucher? I already bought Odin with it

[eager mulch]

he can’t get a day1 port replacer for 15$

[cobalt rapids]

still can

[viscid swift]

ah yes how could we forget, Saint Louis

[eager mulch]

wait till people can whale to get anchorage day 1

[dawn hamlet]

oh I've unlocked Saint Louis but upgrading PR ship takes a lot of time so I thought of Yat Sen but well

[cobalt rapids]

u can get the pr1 pack and get roon panko
or mby u got a better option in ur dock for free like brennus

[dawn hamlet]

oh I do play brennus, so my vanguard for now are: Prinz Heinrich/Tashkent/Portland and Brennus/Z23/Helena
it's probably not worth raising a ship to replace portland with my actual box but well I was looking for portland alternative since I'm not a fan of her I don't really want to invest more

Should I make a thread posting my box?

[cobalt rapids]

yes

portland is basicly alr replaced

[dawn hamlet]

oh?

[cobalt rapids]

you alr got 2 main tanks

but hein wants an ib with her

anyway open thread and post dock

[dawn hamlet]

sorry had to afk, alright I'll do it rn thanks

panko vanguard

[hushed aurora]

Tipps for new Player

[timber sage]

erm any way to disable 600k gold notification? or gold dump places? I cant farm cos it keep prompting that i max cap

[undone plover]

u can buy cat boxes if u dont have anything else worth spending gold on

[cobalt rapids]

spend the coins
u can dump alot in cats

[timber sage]

cant buy anymore 😦

[viscid swift]

if you're really out of options take an 8 hour face research and terminate it a few times
that'll dump some coins quickly

[cobalt rapids]

limit breaks, gear upgrades, gear craft, awakenings, research, coining if u still have it
else start rerolling ur nice cats

[timber sage]

thanks guys

[tired condor]

i wish i had 600k gold coins

[forest palm]

not that hard to do

[heady pier]

well

[cobalt rapids]

besides the fact nelson isnt flag and tank isnt tanking what is the problem

[heady pier]

well i always forgot to adjust them in this section so i just changed their places when i get into the fights lol

[inland wharf]

Should i be retiring useless purple rarity ships as well? because i have max dock space and have already gotten rid of as many common and rare ships as possible

[cobalt rapids]

retire usless and easily reobtainable elites

[heady pier]

better

[cobalt rapids]

did u already expand ur dock with gems?

[inland wharf]

not yet i dont have gems

i will once i clear some hard mode stages

[cobalt rapids]

gems are 3* normal mode campaign and memento

[undone plover]

which obscured zones have "reward boxes"?
this is for spec core

[cobalt rapids]

maybe explorables

no its hiddens

c2 doesnt have em so ig c3+

[undone plover]

yeah obscured is hidden. just wasnt sure what they mean by reward box
ig it is the large grey box then? thanks

[keen sable]

Cancel research

[tired condor]

wait will I be able to synthesize Rodney after her event ends

[viscid swift]

synthesize?

[tired condor]

get

[cobalt rapids]

was that limit break ? only if u got her crystals, 25k for mlb

[tired condor]

dam so if I dont lmb her now I'll never get to do it again?

[cobalt rapids]

ah getting her, no you cannot once shes gone u need to wait dossier(archive)

[viscid swift]

you'll have to wait until she get's added to the dossier on about a year

[tired condor]

eh that's fine

she's not better than hood with augment right

[cobalt rapids]

she prob mobs better than hood

[wispy pendant]

rod meta mobs better than hood?

I guess I need to level her up soon. She's lower priority for me than other elite FP fleet tech tho

[cobalt rapids]

it doesnt matter once u have rainbows

and for mobbing they are standbys for fdg

[keen sable]

You won't be able to get new crystals until rerun but you can use any you already have

[solar mortar]

is yudachi retro worth it? what is her use case, should i bother? i already have her leveled to 100+ but unsure if i get her retro item from the shop or just stock up on UR bullins for future events

[wispy pendant]

how many Rodney points do you have @tired condor ?

[cobalt rapids]

stock on ur bullins

[wispy pendant]

she's good, but several other DDs can dish out what she can now

it's more like, who do you have that you think you would use yudachi for instead?

[tired condor]

i only got 5k lmao

[wispy pendant]

were you sleeping on meta fights, or just couldn't do them earlier

i'm pretty sure by the time she comes back to dossiers you won't be needing her.

[tired condor]

im only getting like 300 points for her every fight

and i was sleeping on pubbed raids yea

[keen sable]

Not the pub raids fault. 28 days minimum. More if absent or slacking

[tired condor]

dam it takes 28 days to mlb meta?

[elfin hollow]

Should I get the torpedo bomber sky pirate (is for uni and I dont have enough resources for wyvern i gotta wait another month for it)

[tired condor]

i only started around 3 weeks ago

[elfin hollow]

Then what torp bomber will be the substitute to the Wyvern (for uni)

[viscid swift]

Baracudda

[wispy pendant]

yeah, it's hard to mlb a meta ship from starting only 3 weeks ago, don't feel bad

[elfin hollow]

Alr

Does the flying pancake works w her too?

Or a different fighter?

[inland shoal]

Outside very plane heavy worlds all 2x1000 are basically the same

[keen sable]

Is that really your highest priority?

[fair osprey]

is there a decent way to farm a stage without getting bottlenecked by morale?

[elfin hollow]

I mean i just saw gearlab and is a high priority so I just asume it works with unicorn or it doesn’t?

[cobalt rapids]

have 12 dorm slots and rotate 2 fleets
but not as f2p

[inland shoal]

You put your ships in dorm already?

[soft raft]

it's one of the best fighter planes yes
but 1) are you even in a position to farm opsi right now and 2) there are higher prio ships for it than Unicorn

[inland shoal]

I managed to get 2 fleets to 0 like that

[elfin hollow]

Yes my mob fleet is above 115 rn and my two boss fleets above 110

[fair osprey]

i still havent unlocked my 2nd dorm floor so im just suffering with 3 slots atm, guess ill wait then

[inland shoal]

I wouldn't rly say pancake is high prio
Maaybe for w15, but even then

[keen sable]

So it does. I think it's flat out wrong. Junkers D4 or ryuusei more important

[bold salmon]

what is the best focus for research i just finish everyone

[elfin hollow]

lacks of interception thou since im also using her for world 12 then 13

[keen sable]

Micromanage dorm, use more fleets, use less ships

[inland shoal]

Wait so you mean every PR ship is dev30/fs5?

[keen sable]

12 mobs don't have planes

[bold salmon]

yes

[viscid swift]

start spamming for equips, you have about a month until PR7 drops

[inland shoal]

You got 2 of every UR weapon?

[bold salmon]

no just the ships

[tired condor]

man won azur lane time to retire

[inland shoal]

Then I'd work on that

Probably Tenrai>Plygun>Hinden I'd think

[keen sable]

You won't make it to all so 5.

[inland shoal]

Hmm actually just start with the one closest to completion I suppose

[bold salmon]

ok thanks

[inland shoal]

(Out of seasons 4-6)

[wispy zealot]

Chat im new (started playing 2 weeks ago) should i summon for alsace???

[viscid swift]

yes

[soft raft]

You got two days left to try
if you do get her, pog, you can save her for later
if you dont get her, sucks, but continue saving for future URs

Also give this a read when you can https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[wispy zealot]

I mean i got 134 cubes so i should get her?

Thanks anyway

[elfin hollow]

For independence should I get her the TBM Avenger (VT-18 Squadron)

[soft raft]

worth a shot to see if you can get her

[viscid swift]

depends on rng

you need 400 to pity though

[wispy zealot]

Isnt it 200?

[viscid swift]

200 pulls costs 400 cubes on the event

[soft raft]

that's 200 Pulls
which translates to 400 cubes

[wispy zealot]

Ah okay

[elfin hollow]

Good luck

[grizzled creek]

Is today the last day to farm the event ?

[viscid swift]

no, you still have tomorrow and wendsday

[elfin hollow]

Last time I try to pull a UR i wasted 164 cubs w/o pulling the ur

[grizzled creek]

Hm... is it worth grinding even when my ships are unhappy ?

Or should I try n only farm when they're good ?

[elfin hollow]

Just save more cubes today and tomorrow then dump everything also save coins too

[viscid swift]

you shouldn't ever farm when ships reach 0 morale

[soft raft]

go touch grass and wait for their morale to regenerate
or make a second farming fleet

[grizzled creek]

Is there a way to make it faster ? Or reduce slower ?

[soft raft]

Dorm is the only way to make it faster

[viscid swift]

stick your ships in the dorm

[eternal basalt]

Marriage is the p2w version

[grizzled creek]

Cause it's like I only do a handful of runs then they get tired , I need 8k more points for this 2nd mog & this Gold weapon

Don't get many points

[viscid swift]

you still have today, tomorrow, and the day after

[grizzled creek]

Is that enough time tho?

[soft raft]

depends on how much you grind

[grizzled creek]

I do as much as I can, they just get tired so fast

[tired condor]

morale should replenish after like 2 hrs

[viscid swift]

you're using helps aren't you

[grizzled creek]

What's that

[elfin hollow]

Should i get the TBM Avenger (VT-18 Squadron) for independence

[keen sable]

That's like 40 runs. Shouldn't be a problem. Use more fleets

[grizzled creek]

"Use more fleets" .... what fleets

I only have 1

[eternal basalt]

You gotta work on that

[keen sable]

And that's why you have this issue

[undone plover]

u will use wyverns eventually. for now use barracuda

[elfin hollow]

Complete more worlds :/

[grizzled creek]

"You don't need a second fleet yet " I believe is what I was told many times

[elfin hollow]

They usually take 2 months for each Wyvern smh

[keen sable]

You should have been able to raise new ships during event

[elfin hollow]

I have enough core data fot it

[grizzled creek]

Couldn't if I was focused trying to clear it in the first place n constantly low morale

[undone plover]

that is fine. barracuda is okay for now
core data has better uses than that plane

[elfin hollow]

Like the fumo?

[keen sable]

I've always told you two fleets. You'll need to take it up with the one fleeters here

[keen sable]

What map now? D3?

[grizzled creek]

I'm sure u even said I didn't need it yet to me

[undone plover]

if u have 3x shells, CV timing gear, sub gear, DDG gear, enough core data for monthly chips + arrays (and potentially an oxytorp ) then ig spend your core data however u want
there is a /coredata command u can check

[grizzled creek]

Yea I'm farming D3 now

But it's only been a few days since I got it .

[elfin hollow]

I got enough chips and I use the white shell with the golden fire control

[keen sable]

Rotate. Unicorn can babysit almost anything on D3. Even L70 fleuret survives boss. It's just not very hard

[elfin hollow]

Chang chung is like my only ddg

[grizzled creek]

I'm sure I can carry stuff but had no time to level a 2nd fleet yet

At all

[fallow cape]

What type of armor does this boss have?

[lethal heath]

Medium I think

[forest palm]

Oxy Torps are truly the most, "I have nothing else to buy" item in the core shop

[elfin hollow]

sap shells are effective for medium armor but i wont recommend using them anyways

[viscid swift]

High efficiency combat logistic data plans

[grizzled creek]

I've used a few , is that bad

[keen sable]

You HAVE to have some other ships or you won't even meet reqs for D2 and D3.

[viscid swift]

well if you're using those that's not helping with the morale issue

[undone plover]

now the question is would u get a VT torp bomber before them

[elfin hollow]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[grizzled creek]

Not rlly . I can show exactly what I got on/leveled

[lethal heath]

Just curious but Mogador wise should I use tool kit + washing machine for the second skill + eva, or replace washing machine with goldburn and get HP + RLD, I need a second opinion-

[keen sable]

It doesn't hurt either

[forest palm]

I pretend it doesn't exist

[elfin hollow]

Yeah I dont have submarine gear. I been focusing on my main fleets but I do wanta spend the core data on that torp bomber not the subs yet

[keen sable]

2nd fleet doesn't mean you throw six new ships into the deep end. You start with maybe two ships for unicorn to baby

[undone plover]

well homing beacon and elite manjuu is worth more than that plane

[viscid swift]

well they're using it when they don't need to save time
it's just a waste of HELPs

[undone plover]

what happened to my autosearch in this hidden zone? first time i see this happen

[grizzled creek]

That's basically my leveled stuff

[keen sable]

1800+ says they're not precious

[viscid swift]

you've also been playing for years and had time to stockpile them, they have not

[keen sable]

Are they geared?

[grizzled creek]

Not rlly ... no besides my main fleet & even then not good just ok gear

[keen sable]

Unicorn and laffey can do all the damage, not a problem

[grizzled creek]

They're just tired too tho ^ is what I mean

Unless I use those 2 + stuff I'm leveling

Then when tired I make a full other team ?

[viscid swift]

you should start leveling stuff in preperation for a 2nd fleet at this stage

[elfin hollow]

Ik but the thing is it has a 15% increased Efficiency on Independence.

[keen sable]

Having a boss fleet already enables 18% more runs

[grizzled creek]

well I kno to start leveling em but that's not the problem rn , it's being able to farm & level & maintain happiness at the same time

[keen sable]

When you use morale from 12 ships instead of six you double your runs. It's simple math

[grizzled creek]

Yea ... that's obvious

[grizzled creek]

That's why I asked that

[undone plover]

I mean it is your core data. just get it if u like it so much but at some point u will get a wyvern and stop using it
for the love of god dont +13 it at least

[keen sable]

You can manual some fights. Force boss without unicorn to fight a siren.

[elfin hollow]

I mean I do have the homing beacon on Ark lmao

[elfin hollow]

I wont

[grizzled creek]

I don't get that 2nd part

[elfin hollow]

Nah the Wyvern will be for Uni first then Implacable then shino then her

[keen sable]

The game only wants to use boss fleet for one fight. You can avoid that by manually telling boss to fight a mob. The alternative is two fleets that can both mob AND boss which might be too much for you yet

[grizzled creek]

That all sounds like a lot for me XD

[undone plover]

that is the thing. eventually u will have wyverns for all

[grizzled creek]

Just simplifying it for my own self ... can the main fleet win without Unicorn /Laffey if I wanted to split my fleets up

Until the stuff I'm leveling is leveled

[keen sable]

You could use a 1:1 boss then. I don't see why alsace can't solo boss

[keen sable]

Unicorn is terrible at killing bosses...

[grizzled creek]

U said unicorn n laffey can carry alone that's why I asked that

[keen sable]

Mob not boss

You're Not going to carry that vamp through 7 fights

[grizzled creek]

Vamp is not on my 2nd fleet so I won't be leveling her more

[keen sable]

Whoever you're concerned about then

[grizzled creek]

So ur saying they can kill the side enemies not the bosses ?

[elfin hollow]

It turns out I have enough core data for it it turns out for the plane but i will use thr barricade for now until i get that plane.

[grizzled creek]

All the special terms u keep using ain't making it any easier for me sorry to say XD

Sigh this is bothersome

**These are the teams I was told to use for my 2 main fleets , & it so happens I can't put 'em on the team yet n meet the requirements.

So I have no choice but to do 1-2 at a time

Which means I cannot farm D3 to level my 2nd fleet yet**

[keen sable]

What is stopping you? Bb req in fleet 1?

[tame jungle]

I think stats requirement maybe?

[grizzled creek]

Everything is stopping me... literally

[tame jungle]

That doesn’t really help us help you

[grizzled creek]

Look at the requirements & look at the characters levels I need to level

That's why I can only maybe get away leveling 1-2 at a time , but doesn't help the Affinity problem

[keen sable]

Do this alsace heiny laffey fleet 1. Hood unicorn enterprise portland kaza helena fleet 2. Set role to flag/escort.

[grizzled creek]

Ok & each team should be able to clear what they're gonna be fighting ?

N if I somehow can pull it off I add other stuff I need to level onto fleet 1 ?

[keen sable]

Stuff that will survive goes in fleet 1. Stuff to level in fleet 2. You can get away with penny and kaza in fleet 1 probably though

And use vamp or whoever you need for Eva requirement in fleet 2 dd slot

[grizzled creek]

Ok , and since I kno I won't be able to get everything up, I'll just have to level the rest of these characters outside the event/next event ?

[keen sable]

Play it by ear. If you think alsace is slaughtering everything by herself add sara

[grizzled creek]

Ok

[elfin hollow]

Whats the different between wyvern and spearhead

[grizzled creek]

Thx u btw

[inland shoal]

Spearfish does less trp dmg but has rockets
Good for elites and stragglers

[craggy lance]

how does volga match up to uni re:healing? ik worse, but like define "worse"

we talking 60% healing ability or what

[tame jungle]

D3 boss is heavy armor right

[undone plover]

hard to quantify heals like that tbh cuz it depends on lots of factors and rng
volga heal is also kinda rng in itself

the thing with unicorn that makes her heal rly good is she gets a preload so even if a mob battle lasts 15 seconds she will heal once at least. by the time most other ships heal once she will heal twice and etc...

[keen sable]

Remember to set role of fleet 1 to flagship and fleet 2 to escorts

[soft raft]

Volga's heal is for 5% of her HP, and she does this 3 times at random which can lead to a ship reciving multiple heals

Meanwhile Unicorn's heal is for 8% of each vanguard ship's max HP, and additionally on preload, 5% of each backliner's max HP + the lowest HP backliner gets a additional 3% of their max HP

[sweet delta]

Cannot one ship received all 3 heals

[stone sluice]

If I want to use Shinano and Hakuryuu on Boss fleet w15, is it recommended to use flapjacks on both or just on haku?

[sweet delta]

Both should use good fighters

Do different timing to desync them

[soft raft]

Right, misread the skill descrip

[ivory crown]

how do i get better gear? like what should a targeted gear grind look like? im getting diffed by content such as the event ex stage and challenge mode and idk what i should focus on to be able to beat them

[rain vine]

run operation siren daily and clear the map every month

[ivory crown]

what does daily entail like one per day or more than that

what does a map reset look like? i have most nodes unlocked for more than a month now

[rain vine]

did you finish opsi story?

[ivory crown]

theres a story?

lemme go check

[rain vine]

do you have daily missions unlocked?

[strong tartan]

compiler is heavy right

[soft raft]

the guild boss? yee

[ivory crown]

clear opsci is in my daily tab, but i dont think i have missions for opsi

or i dont know how to check if there is. i have red exclaimation bubbles in my opsi map which i think mean story quests?

[soft raft]

yes those are story missions

[strong tartan]

okay thanks

[ivory crown]

so if i clear the opsi story missions i get daily opsi missions?

[rain vine]

clear the story up until you have to fight arbiter to unlock daily missions

[ivory crown]

question about metas, since they up star level through cores, what happens if you dont have enough cores? is there a permanent way to obtain them or are you just stuck with a 3* meta char

[inland shoal]

Only meta shop and dossier atm

All will be perma at some point tho

[soft raft]

for the SR ones from META showdown and the cruise pass Elites: You are stuck until they are made avaliable again via dossier and [currently unkown] respectively

for the event SR ones, their crystals are made avaliable in the META shop after the event ends

[ivory crown]

does this mean i have dailies now since i see the reset

[rigid spire]

Is Neptune worth building as a research ship?

[soft raft]

you still have red exclamation marks unless those are practice Arbiters

[ivory crown]

it says chapter 5-1

[soft raft]

I think(?) you're still on story

idk it's been a while since I finished it, but if the mission description mentions anything about practice against arbiters, you've unlocked the monthly reset

[ivory crown]

ok

[rain vine]

yes
the green exclamation marks are daily missions

[ivory crown]

so just finish all of em each day and im good?

[viscid swift]

In addition to everything else by the end of the month yes

[ivory crown]

ok

[simple coral]

Guys, I can't choose which skin to buy

[soft raft]

ok and?
we cant dictate what skin you want to buy, that's entirely up to your personal preference

[simple coral]

Oh, that's a good point. Thanks I guess

[soft raft]

also idk if you just happened to be lost, but #al-general is a more suitable place to talk about skins

[simple coral]

Oh, ight thanks

[jovial shuttle]

Hi, I would like to know if there is any place where I can find information about some ships, if they are worth to build, if they work by themselves or is better with another ship, gear, etc.

[eager mulch]

EN Community Tier List (requires basic reading comprehension)

[jovial shuttle]

damn, guess I'm out of luck, I play Ygo. Jokes aside, tyvm

[eager mulch]

ok

[soft raft]

do note though that some descriptions on ECTL are outdated, some ships simply arent on there yet, and it only works for campaign up to W13

And be sure to read gear descriptions

[abstract latch]

Can any1 help me build my fleet? Tryna do siren thing but my fleet too weak to advance

[atomic abyss]

Best to start a thread
And post your dock there

[mint flint]

if you post your dock in a thread someone better at AL than me will probably help you

[abstract latch]

How? the new discord ui is confusing

Do i start it here?

[heady pier]

third one just create from the message that says can any1 help

[abstract latch]

Hlep me make flet pls

[abstract latch]

Thank u

[heady pier]

[summer prism]

how do we get more meta crystal fragments

[south sequoia]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/common_resource#finite

It lists there the possible ways and methods to grab meta crystal fragments

[summer prism]

thanks

[wispy cosmos]

how often are we getting new full fat events these days

[viscid swift]

End of every other month at this rate

[thick geyser]

Hi guys, what would be the 2 best fleets I can make with these ships? And what is recommended for me to do next? Should I aim for unicorn retrofit, hood upgrade or something else?

My fleet 1 seems strong enough for the content I’m at right now, but I feel like my fleet 2 is way too weak.

[mint flint]

unicorn retro is very top priority

also focus your bulins more and mlb ships rather than having many partially lb'd ships

[thick geyser]

To retrofit her, do I need to buy all the upgrades on the talent tree?

[mint flint]

most of them yes

[thick geyser]

Is there any I shouldn’t upgrade?

[mint flint]

you probably also want to retrofit portland

[mint flint]

there are no downsides, so upgrade them all unless you lack resources

[thick geyser]

Ahh, ok, thanks! Do I get the materials for retro from just doing regular missions and event missions?

[mint flint]

you get retro bps from hard mode missions on the main campaign

[undone plover]

stick to 1 fleet for now.
u are using too many golds.

mogador is useless at LB0

use Hood (flag), uni, alsace
portland, z23, chapayev

dont spread gold bulins. focus 1 ship to MLB then move on to next one

retrofit unicorn > portland

when u get to later chapters + get more ships u can think about fleet 2

[zinc turret]

Get helena and enterprise and upgrade ur helena , enterprise , portland , z23

[thick geyser]

Upgrade ur is retrofit?

[mint flint]

"ur" as in "your"

[thick geyser]

Ahh

[old zodiac]

ths fleet is effective until what chapter?

[loud rover]

fat event?

[thick geyser]

Thanks for your help. I’ll start working towards those ships

[keen sable]

they're 30 levels and in one case 70 levels lower. not surprising they are dreadful comparatively

[undone plover]

try and get some gold bulins from weekly missions/medal shop and MLB hood > chapayev fast otherwise u are wasting xp on them since they are capped
if u are low on gold bulins then take out chapy and put helena instead

[thick geyser]

I’ve got plenty of gold bullins, but not enough coins to upgrade them yet

[zinc turret]

I think 12 / 13 , helena & enterprise is good at bossing and u gonna need to upgrade portland and starter character for newbie event anyway

[old zodiac]

alr nc thx

[mint flint]

maybe not w13 but w12 yeah

[old zodiac]

guess i can use data packs on em

[wispy cosmos]

as in non-sp or raid

[old zodiac]

still i can reach oil cap world it's good enough

[mint flint]

if you're gonna use them you'll get xp for them anyway

[old zodiac]

yeah but im tryna speedrun to chap 9 hha

[stark quiver]

when aquila event is added to WA, would aquila be in perma pool

[zinc turret]

Event map

[old zodiac]

they have oil cap?

[zinc turret]

Yea the d one

[old zodiac]

haha too far

[zinc turret]

Hmm perhaps i guess , atleast d3 is harder than 9-4 and weaker than w10

[old zodiac]

might try the event stages once i have mlb the starter fleet cuz i take a lot of damage on event stages

[zinc turret]

But d1 shouldnt be that hard

[old zodiac]

what level do you think i should be on d1?

[stark quiver]

around 100~ for things to go smoothly

[zinc turret]

I guess 100 on average

95 can do actually if u have good gear , upgraded skill and good ship

[old zodiac]

all ships? or atleast the vanguard?

[stark quiver]

all ships

[old zodiac]

alr thx

[mint flint]

main fleet is generally the main damage dealer so they need to be levelled to do damage

[keen sable]

looks like 2023 was 4 UR + EN anni

[old zodiac]

how long till they do a rerun on past URs?

[soft raft]

Yes
They no longer do rateup banners for WA additions

[zinc turret]

Average level

[soft raft]

All non collab events are guarenteed to rerun in at least 2 years after the intial run

[old zodiac]

guess i have plenty of time to stock up on cubes

[stark quiver]

thats pretty tragic, so say i really need her, should i pull on perma pool

[soft raft]

would be safer to wait till a special pool focused event banner rolls around
or if she qualifies for the next Wishing Well

[silver lintel]

Should i craft 2nd 457mm or nah

[modern chasm]

there's no point in levelling a second UVH, right?

[hollow gust]

no

[mint flint]

no point levelling any dupes

[stark quiver]

no, unless leaderboarding grinding

[hollow gust]

theres barley a point in leveling 1 uvh lmao

[modern chasm]

i have a few dupes, was wondering if it was safe to scrap

[stark quiver]

so maybe during vanny rerun? if special pool

[mint flint]

you can basically scrap all dupes if you have one ship that is mlb'd

[south sequoia]

Depends on your situation, if you got the rest of useful opsi gear I'd say you can go ahead and craft a 2nd 457

[restive wharf]

Who needs the second Ply gun the most?

Kronshtadt
Helena
Jintsuu META
Ryza
Jeanne D'Arc
St. Louis

[keen sable]

alsace

[south sequoia]

are these seriously your only options

[atomic abyss]

Ryza...?

Yeah probably Ryza

[stark quiver]

IF those are your ONLY options, probably jda/helena

[atomic abyss]

JDA damage is potato

[wind hazel]

put on a BB

[atomic abyss]

Helena is fair

[south sequoia]

I'd rather put it on a bb honestly

[restive wharf]

Alsace?

[south sequoia]

Jintsuu can make use of it assuming you pvp

[atomic abyss]

There's no scenario where you use st. louis in content that requires plygun

[south sequoia]

Sure

pr5 already got their fs5's right

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[south sequoia]

Okay good

[atomic abyss]

With those gun effs tho lol

[south sequoia]

yeah

[silver lintel]

Should i 125 my subs

[restive wharf]

I thought Neptune would be a good option for Plymouth gun since she uses AP guns, but it's hard to find the ship who actually needs a ply gun outside of Plymouth

[south sequoia]

They can do good enough at 120, but if you have the arrays to spare and have no one else useful to 125 they can be good to 125

[atomic abyss]

I mean in all seriousness
Why not tho

[south sequoia]

Ryza is a good option to pick too

assuming you use her

[atomic abyss]

It's either Helena or Ryza imo
From those options

[restive wharf]

Any other option you think it's the best recipient for ply gun?

[blissful hamlet]

any dps CL

[south sequoia]

Any CLs you are actively using with actual gun damage and can only equip cl guns

[atomic abyss]

That are gun based*

Like Jintsuu isn't gonna get much mileage

[restive wharf]

Emden, Chapayev, Voroshilov, Mainz, etc.?

[viscid swift]

something like that

[atomic abyss]

Pretty much

[viscid swift]

Helena on the basis you're gonna use her quite a bit

BB aux gun is also an option

[zenith locust]

Is San Diego for mob fleet?

[restive wharf]

Another question
Which combination is the best for Hindenburg?

2x Hindenburg guns
2x Drake guns
Mix of Drake and Hindenburg gun
Mix of Unzen and Hindenburg gun
Mix of Drake and Unzen gun

[viscid swift]

maybe, depends on the content
also pre retro sandy is just shit

[blissful hamlet]

2x hinden gun probably best especially for mobbing

[tired condor]

is plymouth worth getting

[atomic abyss]

Very very worth
Assuming you're done with fdg and pr4

[zenith locust]

In chapter 12?

[restive wharf]

Mainly for boss in W13
Mob in W15

[tired condor]

i thought some ships outdamage her now

[atomic abyss]

Plymouth is the top of CL dps

There are very few ships that outdps her (like Hinden Unzen Mog)

[crisp estuary]

[atomic abyss]

But do consider that Plymouth also aids with debuffing

[viscid swift]

for all content

if Sandy is retroed she works in either

[tired condor]

nah im skipping fdg cuz she ugly

[atomic abyss]

[tired condor]

working on pr4 rn

[blissful hamlet]

[atomic abyss]

I mean... If you wanna shoot yourself in the foot sure I guess

[zenith locust]

OK thx

[tired condor]

and a random plymouth came out

[atomic abyss]

Do be aware that FdG beats any gold rarity and below BB (outside Owari) by quite a fair bit

[blissful hamlet]

owari better than fdg

[tired condor]

its fine ill live

[crisp estuary]

My ugly ass Musashi is still level 1

[atomic abyss]

I can't remember Owari's damage in comparison

But she's the only non UR BB that can compete with the URs in DPS

[viscid swift]

she's close but still not better than FDG even

[blissful hamlet]

that's a big

[atomic abyss]

What is?

[tired condor]

when the event build ends, will another one pop up

[blissful hamlet]

owari compete with UR BB

[atomic abyss]

Owari dps is that ridiculous
For a gold at least

[tired condor]

do they ever rerun builds

[viscid swift]

she comes close

[viscid swift]

all non collab ships will rerun and eventually be made permanently available

[blissful hamlet]

if you say she compete with fdg then I can understand but UR BB in general is big

[tired condor]

how does fdg compare with nj

[blissful hamlet]

huge doubt if she can compete with zwei or soyuz or musashi

[viscid swift]

worse on bossing, better on mobbing, in W14 anyway

[atomic abyss]

Roughly the same league in terms of dps

[viscid swift]

she doesn't, the comparrison is FDG

[blissful hamlet]

you literally said she compete with UR BB

[viscid swift]

FDG is a UR BB...

[atomic abyss]

Bruh...

[blissful hamlet]

fdg doesn't count

[atomic abyss]

???

[viscid swift]

anyway, that's the comparrison point

[atomic abyss]

I understand if you don't count Warkai at least...

[blissful hamlet]

I wouldn't use fdg to describe UR BB in general

[viscid swift]

irrelevant and pedantic at this point

[blissful hamlet]

[tired condor]

is iron blood the only faction with double fleet pts

[atomic abyss]

That's just a you thing...

Iris has double too iirc

[viscid swift]

all the minor factions have double I think

[short wagon]

im researching for anchorage rn, do i go for kearsarge next if i have enough tech poitns

[viscid swift]

probably not

I doubt you have many prints for her and the rest of PR4 comes first

[soft raft]

have you finished FdG, the rest of PR4, and at least Plymouth from PR5 yet?

[tired condor]

i need to get all of pr4 before going for brest?

[atomic abyss]

Everyone except Marco are very strongly recommended

[tired condor]

like wouldnt hakuryuu be even harder to get

[atomic abyss]

Why would Hakuryuu be any harder to get than Brest

[soft raft]

no not really
Prob equally the same

[atomic abyss]

In fact it'd be easier
Once you fate sim say Anchorage
Her researches will no longer appear

[tired condor]

she needs 950 fleet tech points lmao

[atomic abyss]

And IJN fleet tech is much much easier to get if you just play the campaign

[tired condor]

does sakura empire have double points?

[soft raft]

no

[viscid swift]

I would at least hope by the time you get enough BPs to get her to Dev 30 you can unlock her

anyway, unlock order isn't too important

[atomic abyss]

Iris fleet tech is usually way harder
Because iris ships are much rarer
The only reason you have enough tech for iris is because you've started during an iris event

It's not like you'll have the BPs to max Brest anyways

Moreover, PR4 has significantly better gear drops

[viscid swift]

Anchorage, AvP, and Agir are the main 3 to get from PR4 early on

[tired condor]

maxing alsace immediatelty gave enough tech points lmao

[elfin hollow]

Should I get this from gear lab?

[restive wharf]

Tenrai, Ply gun, or Hinden gun before PR7?

[rapid grail]

you can also buy the prints for it in Protocore Shop

[atomic abyss]

Depends
Have you gotten wyverns?

[atomic abyss]

At least 2 tenrais first

[rapid grail]

if you already have it, then crafting more of 457mm is conditional and up to your preferences

[viscid swift]

one yes

[restive wharf]

I have two tenrai. One on Haku and the other on implacable

[viscid swift]

well you've got about a month until PR7 releases

[elfin hollow]

Nope

[rapid grail]

albeit it costs a LOT of electronics, so do prioritize having some other gears that cost electronics first

[atomic abyss]

I would focus on other gear first then

[elfin hollow]

Too poor for that currently

[rapid grail]

well you can do Wyverns, they do cost electronics and makes your mobbing easier.

[atomic abyss]

457 isn't as high priority

[rapid grail]

dw, you'll get them in time as long as you do your Research Projects

[restive wharf]

Third Tenrai vs third ply gun or third Hinden gun?

[elfin hollow]

Im close to get tenrai

[rapid grail]

third tenrai, then third plygun. Third hinden gun completely optional

[elfin hollow]

47/50

[viscid swift]

I'd go 3rd Plymouth gun

[soft raft]

same

[elfin hollow]

I dont for enough for Wyvern this month so imma use the electric parts for the flapjacks

[sweet delta]

I recommend not using tenrai on implacable

[viscid swift]

realistically unless you're close, by the time you get the 3rd Tenrai it's gonna be in the gear lab

[verbal thistle]

Why's that?

[elfin hollow]

Will that be better used for this month?

[atomic abyss]

No don't

Flapjacks are nowhere as high priority

[viscid swift]

because for single target rocket fighters or converging TBs are better than Tenrais

[sweet delta]

It's suboptimal for single target damage, and for multi target campaign you probably want fighter interception or just more single target again

[elfin hollow]

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[rapid grail]

the middle plane slot better reserved for rocket plaes (against light and medium armor) or converging torp bombers (against heavy) for bossing

[verbal thistle]

Ah, okay. That makes sense. Thanks.

[atomic abyss]

Wyvern still higher priority

[tired condor]

its 500 something bp for dev30 right

[rapid grail]

/devbp yes

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460648604974055424/885529968455598170/unknown.png

[soft raft]

/devbp

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460648604974055424/885529968455598170/unknown.png

[atomic abyss]

Flapjacks are lower priority than wyverns because they aren't as big an upgrade over the existing gold fighters

[tired condor]

thats pretty tough

[viscid swift]

honestley this gear lab priority sheet is getting to be a bit more trouble than it's worth

[atomic abyss]

I mean cheeky

I always found nerezza's formatting to be unnecessarily confusing

[viscid swift]

for the gear lab priority I would agree

dividing it into sections doesn't make things easier to interprate

maybe I'll bring it up in feedback later

[short wagon]

no sir ion got tech points for those i do want to get fdg tho

[topaz smelt]

tfw you complain about something ive brought up several times

[restive wharf]

Is it just better to give Hakuryuu two Tenrai and one Wyvern instead of Two Wyvern and One Tenrai?

[viscid swift]

I mean I've always thought it to be suboptimal, only now it's really starting to show

[soft raft]

then get grinding in Divergent Chessboard
Kearsarge is very low priority

[viscid swift]

it's dependent on the content as always

[topaz smelt]

when you have 3 dimensions of priorities its bound to fail eventually