#gameplay-help
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early July
does vanguard already reruned or not?
Uhm well ig at that point your best choices would be ships like Indep
It's getting scuffed tho
perseus?
will do ig
you dont run perseus n Uni together
3 preloads aint good, wasted dmg n Perseus suck when fights r long since she gets a debuff
saratoga or indep?
Indep
when will it be easier to do the commissions which need lvl 100 ships?
when you got more of them
I have some spare ones but I always have to set them manually or all lvl1 unlocked ships will be selected
prob when u have more lvl 100 ships
oh good. I was worried it would stay like this
when you click reccomend it doesnt auto slot in the level 100s?
prob the lvl 100s they do have r in use or in fleets perhaps?
no. it says no available and it just selectes lvl1 ships
then they're probably in fleets
I have more than 15 lvl 100 ships and some are in no fleets, even no exercise
if they're available they should appear automatically
it is a bit weird
Did you check all hard mode fleets?
but I mean rn I slot them in opsi and can't test anymore but I swear some were completely free before lmao
Question
I have few UR ship i haven't raised and wondering who should i prioritize
The new Gacha UR
The free UR from Shop
or Yorktown 2
im broke on UR bullin
if that counts then that is probably the reason ty
Depends on what you got, probably the new gacha UR tho ig
prob Alsace
It does count
okie
But really depends on what you're lacking
man, who is better at mobbing flag ship at opsi? richelieu, mp fs5 or amagi?
MP?
ngl
i have no idea what im lacking
MP I suppose
oh marco polo lmao her prob
marco polo
Do you have 3 UR BBs? Do you have 3 UR CVs?
should I give her 457 or twin 406 from pr2?
Filipino spotted
Give her 457 ig
the only UR BB i have is New Jersey and Ulrich
my UR CV is Shinano and Yorktown 2
Anyway I'm gonna ask for MLB help again
||Nababasa ko username mo lol||
So you're lacking both
Just do Alsace first and then Yk2 or wait for next UR
okie thanks 
MLB help again
all of my boss bbs equipped the champy gun and some flandre gun since I'm working on my 2nd tenrai would that be fine?
What?
I meant my bb's like Soyuz, ulrich, FdG, NJ which are on opsi equips champy gun and flandre gun, and I might give ulrich my 457, should I give MP the 457 and give them Champy/Flandre gun?
Uhh sure...
sorry for my bad english, goddamn. 
I still need 143 of the event currency for the second copy of Mog. It’s taking forever since I can’t do the daily SP runs.
My gear sucks on my fleet, I think.
Nah you're fine 
Who should I max limit break first? Shima? Laffey II? NJ? or Alsace?
Alsace
laffey/Alsace
After that it depends between Laffii and NJ
Can always open a thread if you want help with it
Does Hatsuzuki need paired
I'm on bulin drought, how long does this pain to go away- (can't mlb my shinano, mogador and alsace)
If I were to open a thread, post the ships/gear and the depot weapon page?
Dunno never experienced it 
^
Okey dokey, I’d appreciate the help, I have no idea what I’m looking at weapon wise.
yep need other Sakura ships
Eeeeeeeh it's good to pair her with other SE ships, but I wouldn't say she *needs* to fulfill the 3
which device is better for playing this game? on a phone or an emulator?
For what? She appreciates them but as usual you rarely fully utilise faction buffs
You'll get banned for emulator
Why choose one when can do both 
Lmao no
No you don't
if you play on auto as most people do it doesnt really make a difference other than that emulators are more prone to crashes
Nah emulator is fine as long as you don't bot or whatever
I usually auto and leave it running 
Is your phone decent
Gear Help for Event SP/EX
an XR, it crashes sometimes
Is it pointless to choose Shinano and New Jersey for rate up in the Wishing Well? Isn't their pull rate normally 1.2%?
thats the pull rate for both, wishing well will make one have 1.2% rather than each having 0.6%
anyways, should I on stop when encountering a siren construct or mysterious merchant on strategic searches?
Akashi yes for chance of more AP, I don't stop for constructs
Need help making a Iris/Vichya Main Fleet to farm for Brest
3 vanguard or main fleet ships that aren't fully leveled
Nothing extra? Like just splash 3 of them in there and hit go?
Yep, cdc is the easy part, just make sure you fulfill the conditions and grind away
was using iron blood ships to farm xp and got prinz heinrich to the level when i can mlb her. is it worth it?
@inland shoal I put up a thread. I’m already getting some great advice from one guy.
Always mlb ships you’re gonna use anyway
Sometimes you just gotta suck it up while grinding if you don’t have anything that good while grinding PR
flashbacks to grinding FDG with Wesser and Schanhorst
I have lv 120 gneisenau just because of that
Be me, MLB Lyon and Richy for Brest
Richy gud tho
it is tough. they are left with less then 5% hp. i was too ambitious thinking they will be able to clear entire map. had to leave to build decent second fleet for boss
Oh well, at least they can clear low level OpSi
In a nano-haku fleet, is nano for support and haku does main damage?
Can someone explain what this 115%, 200%, 100% efficiency on my equipment is?
Fundamentally just another multiplier in the damage equation
just like yk2 and enty, yk2 is not an enterprise support
one of the damage multipliers
What is making them have those multipliers tho? my other chars have different multipliers
Every ship has its own efficiencies
Correct
The efficiency of each slot is dependent on the ship
Most ships increase efficiency of at least some slots with limit break/dev level
okay so it has nothing to do with the actual weapon those are just built in multipliers based on the character
For instance, Alsace's main gun efficiency increases to 145% at MLB
Exactly
ok gotcha, thank you guys 👍
i am so close but i dont have
time to use storage
Leave the blogging to #al-general please
thank you!
sorry
Backliner urs have mlb prio right?
Unless your whole vanguard dies
So would i do in order: alsace, guam, laffey 2, shima , mogador?
Probably not cuz new URs will come before you finish that
9-4 is weirdly hard to beat?
not really
hard mode
I can finish 2 of them, so after alsace which ones do I go for first
Nope, as long as you're properly geared should be fine
not really
the follow up barrages from the battleships never hit
What ship is it
Ship girls that usually provide faction buffs, do they also apply to themselves?
probably a stupid question
Spinning 'til your head hurts 
If you've having trouble, try to include some slow/stop effect to improve your hit rate
Although ofc, with good eq and ships, you can prob just overpower by sheer force
If it says "in the fleet" then yes because she is indeed in the fleet
Usually if it doesn't include self it will say in the desc
But if I wanted to put together the strongest fleet possible, it wouldn't be a full faction fleet?
is it worth to use dr6 prints for dr4 ships?
london or helena? just starting
helena is rly good
Most people would probably tell you Helena
Nope
The roles needed within a fleet are spread out across factions, so in almost all cases you will end up running a fleet consisting of multiple factions
decent damage by itself and also has a debuff that makes enemies take more dmg
ok thanks
Prints feel as though they come in abundance, at least for me. R6 Prints are being provided in most cases because that's the latest line so I'd say "sure, why not?"
I wouldn't
If anything I'd use them for Plymouth, since you'll likely be set to PR4 for the Tenrai anyways
i see
While I won't deny that the PR4 DRs are more impactful
At the same time, so is Plymouth
is maxing plymouth a priority?
I would say it's worth pushing her to at least 20
So then she'll be usable in a BB fleet for her buff
What I personally did was
I set my research focus to PR4 to finish Haku fatesim+tenrai
Set catch up to Plymouth
And throw some DR BPs to hit Dev 20
The priority should for DRs shd be
FdG (which can be coined), Agir to at least Dev 25, Hakuryuu to FS5, Agir to Dev 30
Then switch research focus to PR5 for Plymouth
Note that catch up =/= focus
alr ty for input
when do you people normal stop grinding the event? I just got the final dupe of bearn meta from d3 so she is mlb now. Not sure if it is worth to keep farming event just for barracuda prints
It isn't worth farming for barracuda prints
I'd say bare minimum is the 2 Mogador copies and the rainbow DD gun
i see, bought the first copy already and mlb her with urbulins, bought all the events gears too already. guess I could stop farming event now

get whatever you want from shop and milestone and bail out
sup moggies
Can someone please confirm if you can or can't get Tartu as a drop in the war archive?
no
Pretty sure no
SP event ships just get added to the pool usually, and are not obtainable from their respective archive
Cool, I thought so but I wanted to check, thanks
Does retrofit give any tech point? I think no but just checking XD
no
Ye
can i +13 soyuz instead of champy? i have 2 champy + 1 soyuz gun
You can +13 anything if you're willing to live with your bad decisions 
Jokes aside, Soyuz gun is great, you can +13 it
lol ok. i just didnt wanna waste gold plates. i dont have too much
Help Im not sure if I have skill issues. AvP slows is good but it’s just short enough that the last bits of the converging torp strikes can’t hit before the duration expires and the boss dodges it
What to do…
you mean AvP herself is not hitting or the other ships going with AvP is not hitting
what is the easiest to get ship that have cross fleet barrage / cross fleet buff ?
Easiest buff that is good/useful... probably Independence?
Barrage... is pretty much exclusive to (natural) URs
Tosaaaaaa
🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋
what do you mean "easy" though
i need moar cross fleet stuff for low oil farm the event ;-;
how low are you pushing where
no you don't
Oh ye, Tosa is in medal shop I forgot
Idk how much you should go out of your way for her cf though 👀
if you're trying to use 0LBs in C/D you're kind of doing it wrong
oh i used invite on tosa since i has no bulins 😛
currently im farming at b1 at event
with?
cassin and bogue for farm and alsace for cross fleet 
Alsace alone probably not enough, ideally you want Musashi + Soyuz
is there some reason you're trying to low cost than just D3
imma too weak to do d3 
D1?
to be honest if you're not ready to do D3 you probably don't have the gear and ships needed to make 3 or 4-oil B1 happen
i think i can win d2 if i clear manually avoiding the miniboss
I would say the low cost fsrming harms your ability to do D3 ...
just farm D1 then
well i can farm b1
grind D1 until your levels are enough to do D2, then D3
with 4 oil
I think leveling ships you need in D1 is better than bogue and cassin in B1
yes
im afaird i wont have enough oil if i farm d1
I assume you already did the sortie missions on B3
yeaa
I think this is a fair reason to push for D3
is the new meta char good?
if you're asking about Foch 🚮
thrash then
but sexy trash
i bough too much random shit
like bearn meta cuz i didnt realize u can get bearn from b3/d3
huh
if there's a lesson i learnt, is to do mlb for event ships only when one* no longer farm / do pulls on event banner
I honestly don't think it's worth saving 1 UR bulin for the trouble you're putting yourself through
you're also shutting yourself out of the chips, arrays and prints
+eagle tech box (for new players)
he's probably not new enough for the box to be worthwhile 
bearn meta cost 10k or 8k event point iirc but u can get her from b3/d3 and after u get bearn meta to LB bearn u only need bearn meta that only cost 2k point which basically buying bearn meta at event shop is wasted except u didnt get any bearn meta till the event ended
Trash that takes no dockspace sooo...
+she can be pulled from gacha
yeah that too
regardless
Are mogodor good investment?
my honest advice is farm D1 for what you can get in the shop and ignore the dupe
so if i do the farm thing (event for little friederich) (probably misspelled) i can get her
good but not priority
alsauce higher prio
i can try to get magador 1lb
MLB or bust
Alsace can fire barrage other team formation?
yes
yea 16 sec after battle start , once per battle
should i use blueprints on dev30 plymouth or fate5 haku? plymouth needs 281, i have like 30 extra for haku that can only be used up to research 4 and then ~140 on research 5/6 , i almost got the plymouth gun and 50 more bps from the plymouth catchup, so idk if farming research 5 is still good (agir fate preparations maybe?)
i have shinano with 0 Lb, alsace as important to invest bulins in next (or for vanguard rerun)
Red skill?
not sure what you mean here, we are only talking about Bearn META in shop but also drops from B3/D3 and event build
yea
what does ACC and AVI stands for?
theres this event rn where its whit the trust meter
thanks, time to clear W12
I would finish Plymouth before worrying about Hakuryuu's FS
there's also the option of going back to PR4 if you need more Tenrais still
oh Yeah btw what about Hit?
yeah im halfway through my second tenrai
yeh but that's got nothing to do with B3/D3 in particular, you can farm trust points almost anywhere
then finish Plymouth with prints and finish Hakuryuu with PR4 focus
so i just forget shinano for now and upgrade alsace?
wait b3/d3 from the event rn (bear w me pls)
do you have other UR BBs and I assume Hakuryuu is at least d30? (or close to)
Any reloader ship beside unicorn, that can be farmed?
they're just entirely separate things
you can grind in B3/D3 for trust for little FdG but you can also farm elsewhere if you don't need event points or Bearn META anymore
The lil Fred ship trust can be gain in story or event stages, u can do any of the stages and still get his trust up, don't worry
haku is like half dev28, i have NJ musashi Ulrich FDG max Lb for URs, YK2 as other main fleet
noted in trying to get mogador 1lb from the shop
I'd prioritize Shinano for use with Hakuryuu then, Alsace doesn't directly replace other BBs that much anyway
is she not similar to vanguard?
yeh but you get more out of finishing Shinano to use with Hakuryuu than swapping one of the UR BBs for Alsace
and they're not that similar, she has a debuff but you'll need to know how to use it properly
You gotta time it properly too
Since alsace doesn't have a reload buff despite her particularly high rld stat, she might fall behind on timings and not apply her debuff before the other ur bbs
so haku is still usable at dev30 with shinano
on a secondary note, i wouldnt benefit that much from getting vanguard rerun then over say implacable? even tho shes more far away and i'll be able to skip musashi/yk2 reruns
*buff
and her RLD is just same ballpark as other URs without buff
I only now just realized my mistype
Hakuryuu + Shinano is still pretty top now even without FS
Hakuryuus fs5 is just extra damage, and some nice qol adjustments
Basically my mob fleet is musashi fdg, and AP fleet is using ulrich Nj but monarch as flagship; i can just put alsace in there and skip over vanguard?
is this for OS? OS doesn't need 2 rainbow BBs for mobbing
lol i didnt know this thing have an effect 
yeah i just put 2 on it
2 rainbow bbs in mob is a waste
if anything I'd shove Musashi/NJ/FdG in boss fleet and UvH for mobbing
Plus seems slower to clear
Monarch is just whatever when you have 3 rainbows
and 2 healers?
1 healer and one fast carrier like Independence maybe
how to unlock sp stage ? did i have to clear d3 first ? and how hard is sp stage compared d3 ?
yes
mkay thanks
SP is harder than D3 but you more than a whole week to level to beat D3 then SP
if you just tunnel vision yourself to B1 you're not getting anywhere
ah alr i still have to max her; so would Vanguard hold some value for me or nah; i think my vanguard fleet is the weakest with only guam agir drake fs5 as URs
if you want more detailed help you'll need to start a thread with your dock, I feel like we're not putting the right pieces together just giving you advice piecemeal
Sp Need average level 110 btw... Idk if its possible for a new player (Im still not there) but yeah listen to nntktt cause farming in d3 is super valuable to me as a newbie
It give so much exp and gold with an oil cap
Pretty much like w9/w10
I'll probably be sleeping, probably will have others that can help
im pretty much die at w10 
k thanks for the help still, im lost in some parts of the progression
all the more reason to focus on D to level
damn ur a strong newbie XD
Did u try to atleast manual d2 and see if u can beat it
Like avoid the elites
Ahh icic, so u cannot do d3 I'm guesing not because of level but maybe u die? Did u try manual and avoid elites
i think i didnt meet the requirement
Im not sure but there’s quite a bit of torps left that didn’t hit
like ... the 1600 fp cuz most of my ship is carrier not battleship
hood and alsace alone aint enough to meet the 1600 requirement
I managed to fully limit break alsace from pulls and got an extra copy now, should I keep it or is there no use for it other than being an extra secretary?
Dont keep dupes
just grind it into UR buling tickets?
u can keep a dupe if u have multiple skins
AvP's own torps should hit
if anything it should be the carrier after her that's too slow
Hmmm so what to do? Since the slow isn’t quite sufficient Im not sure if I should load that many torp planes on Shinano for heavy opsi boss fights like the monthly harbiter
change other planes to adjust speed
use beacon
Try to play with the timings
Imaginably your problem is that they are not synced closely enough
I wait until all 3 airstrikes load before I unload them
Oh you do it manual
Huh
do you have shells on Alsace and Hood
Yea
only black shells on alsace
Is AvP in second place?
If youre manual you should have even less issue tbh
AvP first then nano and Haku
i dont have enough core data
Ah, OK, that's prob the issue then
So beacon on nano and Haku?
AvP has less grace time than Implac
You pretty much need her second
Or, as you saw, the stop will expire before the last torps hit
Not rly
Hmmm
and the eva requirement
Based on my vague memory of last using them uh
If they're all equal affinity
Something like
Shinano: Saiun/Tenrai/Saiun
AvP: Tigercat (or some bomb fighter)/Tenrai/Ryuusei
Haku: Ju-87/Tenrai/Ju-87
Should work without any beacons
(May possibly need to play with AvP's fighter a bit, it's been an age and a bit since I used AvP)
Avp needs german plane
How to search thread?
I forgot what my w15 fleet
Oh right
Thank you
Ju-87 then, or else FW-190 in fighter slot
Hmmm
German plane makes her loading like 20% faster lol. It’s very hard to beat that loading
hmm in opsi (anti-light cv, but only bf109s since i has only 1 hvar cat) - would it be better to go
kear/yt2/enty or
kear/yt2/avp ?
If you want, start a thread and show me your planes and I can try and calc a plane setup that works order-wise
I'm giving recommendations without knowing what equipment you can bring
Why do you have a 118 and 110 in commission. Who's the first one?
I'd definitely go latter myself
The stop is just too valuable to give up as a general principle, unless you're compensating elsewhere/have some very specific plan in mind
Kear yorkii avp cos stop is useful against zoomer light
its saratoga and javelin
danke 🙂
Hmm ok
well i want to keep running the commision and its require me to send lv 100 + ship
Do you not play the game enough? Because d1 is better than long com
Hmm yes getting rid of perseus would be an overall improvement
well someone said i should try to clear SP to get 50 UR voucher cuz its worth it to get
CV boss slow timing
It's efficiency. You need a LOT of xp to move sara even 1 level. Whereas chappy would move like 5.
you should try to push for SP, but you definitely shouldn't be doing that by leveling on long comm
Who has more Eva? Chappy or LB0 moggy?
long commision that asked me to use my lv 100 ship ? its only 1-2 hours i can do opsi in that time
oh that's just chip comm
yeaa
should i raise my moggy?
my mogador have 184 eva and chappy 77 eva
or should i save bulins for vanguard?
is having URs pretty much necessary for me to do w14/w15? a lot of the fleets I see have multiple URs
and on another note, will I be screwed later on if I only got mog out of this event or are there similar replacement ships for alsace I can get somewhat easily
not necessary but having the appropriate URs makes it a lot easier
Do you have 4 ur bulins on hand ready to be spent
or have the cores to buy 4 ur bulins
sure you replying to the right line?
i have 4 bulins
It is not necessary but you have to make up for the loss of urs with having great gear and proper enhancements
Answer remains get rid of chappy... vampires are like leeches. Won't let go
- 1 more bulin
and also proper fleet building and ships
While URs aren't exactly necessary, their impact will be big on your w14/15 performance
I'd say it's safe to MLB mogador
wut ? so should i put vampire meta in and get rid chappy ?
azur impact 
what if i build mogador after i build vanguard?
Iirc less than half the recommended ships are even ur and several are research
I mean, are you able to safely predict when vanguard will rerun?
given that event ends in 8ish days and I have four ur bulins, do I hold on to them and hope I get alsace before event ends or do I just mlb mog now
And are you sure if she does rerun it's anytime soon to not have the time to have bulins ready for her
idk, but im afraid i wont have enough bulins once vanguard gets a rerun
it take ages to mlb UR 
the recommended URs are pretty much Guam, Laffey II, and probably 2 BBs
if you count rainbow then maybe Plymouth somewhere
I'd still go ahead and MLB mogador regardless since you already have the bulins on hand yes?
You're safely able to gather 3 more bulins within 2 months either way
like using mog + has bulins? = mlb
else, shelf and wait
i can do moggy mlb and i can theoretically acquire 2 more bulins by the end of this month
from the 5k cores and cruise missions
Then go ahead, no point hesitating when we or you can't predict the future
And it's not like vanguard is so super very important that if you don't have her ready you will be screwed
You'll just be a snail. One in hand better than two in the bush
yeah, but im worried about moggy kamikaze
oh, thought it wasnt kek
omw to invest in moggy then
didnt have time to read patchnotes atm
wow that's pretty deep
Please avoid usage of that in here...
It can be pretty rude to people who aren't familiar with people in this channel to be buddy buddy
For Alsace should I use type 1 ap shell or heavy shell?
both
Just generally for any BB, if the other aux is radar of some kind, choice of shell usually comes down to target EVA
I'd prefer Type 1 vs bosses with some semblance of evasion rate, SHS otherwise (although the difference in this latter case is typically not very great, in the grand scheme of things)
If mobbing or something, you can use either and probably won't notice any significant difference
Should I bulin Mogador, or save them for the shinano I should spark soon?
probably save them for Shinano
I'm planning to use her on mobbing team yah
Cool, either works then
can I get ur gear designs on normal arbiters?
one selector yes
does mogador excel more in mobbing fleets or boss fleets?
What armor is the EX in the event?
to y'all that have every UR BB, where are you most likely to use Alsace?
Heavy
also, what augment should i use on mogador?
Magdor does both fine, and dual swords
can this beat the ex or not?
maybe
only one way to find out
Opsi mob prolly
Right now? PvP
Jokes aside
What testing data I have at my disposal (both mine and others) seem to suggest she is pretty universally applicable, provided you can either get the order right or make her debuff permanent (without the targeting getting buggered)
There's a few details left to work out regarding what DPS output in the vanguard should be expected for Vanguard to take the last slot, but as a generalist boss BB fleet in OpSi at least, I'll probably go Bismarck/Alsace/Vanguard from now on
(Musashi's position vs heavy still pending testing this month)
Of course, if you can't get the order right, then that's another matter
Huh so soyuz gets kicked?
Technically yes
Practically it'll be somewhat difficult imo
What should be the order?
If you get lucky with the file mission drops, i got mine this season
It is possible if you can get and do at least five of the file missions in a single month
(or just roll really lucky with UR drops from other sources)
Vanny > Alsace > Bis?
this would cost 4000 vouchers right? I will prio it then, ty
brief manual for max Alsace debuff at the start
I'd prio biz first
How did you adjust their gears? Trying to get alsace in between vanny and bis sounds like hell
my vanguard died :/
Or are you talking about reload
why not Zwei 2nd and Alsace 3rd assuming you're running a french vanguard for Alsace
reload
prob skill issue for me
I see
saw this at twitter
looks indeed like twitter
that's basically 2 fleets + 2 crossfleet spam
no idea why he chose to meme bulins instead of shoving Unzen in but whatever
Cuz Unzen is in mob
this was last months harbiter, he has an another setup for this months harbiter
oh I just didn't recognize her in skin 
people switch their setup just for arbiter?
he clearly lists the gear swaps below
the ships are exactly the same
he swaps out 1 radar as well

yeah see, they actually change setup for arbiter
that's not arb that's CM
o
6 autoloaders 
see no way people bother to change for every single arbiter
people should actually find out what they're looking at before claiming so
ah is this CM?
Soyuz hakuryuu implacable
that is certainly a... fleet.
What would you use for a Vanguard given Alsace’s requirements?
this is arb gearing
Well, the current issue we're facing is that
If you flag Bismarck, you pretty much cannot get Alsace in front of her for the first rotation without gimping auxiliaries
But she can jump in front of Bismarck for second with the right equipment
So this is currently what we're going with without French vanguard
If you're using French vanguard, you can simply ignore the order (although the somewhat bizarre thing we're finding is that, at least Brest is not making any noticeable difference making the debuff perma, for whatever reason - maybe Mog might change things), although in that case I would agree that setting up Bismarck second so Alsace can benefit from the black hole would be a good idea
mb, ill send his recent setup for this months harbiter
we don't need it kthx
are the numbers the month ?
ok
so I saw people debating whether moga or kron will get UR prio, but what would you say in general if a player doesn't have any UR vanguard yet?
mog > kron
yeh which is why top set is light armour and bottom is AP, with brackets being swapping to bowgun for heavy
can't read japanese, so that's why i don't share these 

Mog since there are 3 CBs in research, reducing Kron's priority
Mogador still wins over since you can grab agir anchorage and brest anytime who does what kronks does just fine.
what gun does mog want? any event gun?
At least right now, forcing yourself to use a French vanguard doesn't seem to be a requirement for her use
Her debuff has generous uptime and can be arranged to work sufficiently without necessarily requiring a French vanguard
that was meant for Jan anyway
Just use her events gun
I see
the twin 138
alr
acting like ya'll don't have google lens on your phone
I don't I just read moonrunes
so do I 
so no mtl nonsense anyway
Oh, I should clarify the second sentence is AP
HE there is a way
Mine's iOS, how do I read it 
hes probably implying to just switch the gears if ur against diff arbiters on the first pic i sent, but i was curious about the 2nd pic
get a better operating device 
but then again sorry for the missinfo
but yeh it's not like "best comps here", it'll work but rainbow spam on OS works anyway
quite honestly you can run some really jank shit in OS, and it'd work
but I can see carrier fleets just being dropped to fit all the BB crossfleets 
it'll change up if they release more carriers
well right now BB output is more than enough and carrier crossfleets are shit
BB also less likely to be 20s-cucked
It's more of a preference rather than making an actual difference, in the end it'll all kill anyways
I can see carriers being dropped since they're a bit more of a hassle to manage and play around with
But if a person can just use a cheat sheet to copy paste cv gear it's up to the player
the main problem with BB is just harby shelling resist but you can 2-fleet and finish off with the mob fleet which is all carriers
Just cheese the anti-shell shield 
(The me of like two months ago probably can't believe I am only semi-ironically suggesting this tbh)
we've only had 3 Gacha UR Carrier at this point
~~CVs>BBs if you aren't a scrub ~~
Always has been
meh
Skill issue
why ban CVs :c
He has skill issues using them and is in denial
Wait, where in that is the suggestion CVs should be banned

When you say hard arbiter you mean the rainbow coordinate logger?
no
Nope, centre area of OpSi map, the red area
hard version of the boss in the center of the map
Anyway, if you don't like CVs, come to PvP, there are none still being used particularly seriously anymore 
Sounds like I missed out on prints last month then
i don't remember the rewards on the harbiter side are remarquable so missing them isn't a big deal
Gold plates cause me stress 
That's good to hear, I was just wondering if there's more rainbow design plans to be had besides the st Petersburg shop and rainbow siren coordinates logger

okayt so im trying to three star. I swear there are no enemies left when i go to the boss, but i don't get the star??? anyone else have this issue?
makes me very sad cuz i burn so much oil :c
well there were enemies left then
if this is campaign Hard mode, turn off clearing mode
is the counter on top left 0 ?
check behind your fleets, a lot of times they can hide there
didn't know there was a counter at the top (ill check it) and yes hard mode, but not 100% completed
for hardmode 3* is easier with clearing mode on as long as ure willing to waste an extra attempt post 100% clear
yeah im trying to cheese it
but uh... its not going so well (skilll issue)
since killing only the boss with clearing mode counts as "kill all enemies" 
wut i never knew that
dw i also learned it the hard way 
any guesses on how likely is vanguard to get powercrept in the nearest future
possibly by the ur we get on jp anni
my guess is 
#al-general for speculation
so basically clear it normally till its 100% and to get the kill all enemy just do clearing mode to only spawn boss and to kill x number of enemy just enter and leave without killing the boss if u want to save ur attempt i guess
essentially yes
do u really think that we are getting more bbs in this year 
i swear i should just anforce the speculation betting rule, it's all just random user that barely talk here that just randomly come in and "this shit gonna release in X anniv bet"
Hello new player here
So i got Alsace early, should i use her now? Or should i follow the teams in the guide on the community tl?
only if you can limit break her
Hmm
Honestly a few ways you could go with it
ECTL guide is semi outdated so no
If you have the rainbow bulins to limit break her once she can already replace Pennsylvania in the typical newbie beginner fleet
I am deeply apologetic for asking a question and replying to what I was tagged in. I will make sure it will never happen again in the future. Thank you for pointing it out.
If you don't, keep her benched
This is a better newbie source
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
Is there any leak on whats the mats for 406mk7 yet? Hopefully not ords
no
we dont have leaks in this game anyways
or at least to the extent of other games
How do i beat the extra stage ?
So I'll use the one on the guide first
going off of precedent though, UR Quint didnt use ords so most likely main gun plans, we'll know more tomorrow night
patch notes aren't even out yet for any of the servers
I still need to figure an use for ur torp plans, whens rainbow quads
if ure feeling particularly rich in plates u can always get 1-2 quints
This will get me 3star right
if counter is 0 its 3 star
WAIT WHERE is the counter (im blind)
0 cool
Really? TIL
sorry if this is a silly question but i really like hai tien but i wasnt playing when she was released, is there a chance that i can get her eventuallly :0
She's in the special pool
no she isnt
/wiki hai tien
core data shop
core data shop
which is even easier than building 
cheeky misinformation moment
ohhh okay! thank you, i somehow missed that part 
even if she was build she wouldn't be special pool anyway
In my defense I read that has Chen Hai not Hai Tien
stigma smh
which pr3 ship do i develop first
Cheshire probably if you want to do 3
ok
PR3: Cheshire >= Odin > Mainz > rest
hmmm two different Points for Rodney meta
🆗
Should I continue farming event d3?
i would for the cat boxes but its fine to quit

think of how much you want to actually buy then also throw in SP for the remaining days
quite honestly should've waited till the last day of the main event 
In terms of exp/coin per oil, is event d3 good? Compared to like w12
no
I'm thinking of stopping but I'm already at 130k
D-3 is like 11-1 oil cap w/ 10-3 rewards
What should I have waited for?
i assume the meta crystals
In case you get a mearn from map drop
that, and the shop stays after the main event is closed
yeh there's still a whole week to earn points
like if you wanted time to farm asking this weekend would give you a better answer
where do i see which gears to equip for both mobbing and pvp on different ships
i believed there was a website, some google excel and images for reference but i cant find it anymore 
How do i kill Enforcer IX: Concealment in opsi? It keep heal back all the damage deal
you're getting literally gated by a lack of damage
if you don't have enough DPS to kill regen just give up
So what can I do to improve my dps? Just get better gears? Or i need a fleet changeup?
both those help
if you need fleet help start a thread and post what you have
we can't tell what you have wrong right now
I’ve got 86k event points. Should I continue for the final ur gear box/barracuda prints?
Hmm okay I will try to find better gears
anyway the regen mod is random, your problem isn't specifically with Concealment
What do you mean by random?
Why would I not acquire tech points on a MLB? Just MLB an iron blood ship and got not texh points for it
was it a Muse, Child, or Meta ship?
likely because it's a) not the first time you did it or b) it's a child/muse ship
Oh I see , I can kill some of them but keep fail at this particular type
Concealment is a light armour CL, for a start you can check if you're using HE guns or rocket fighters
It's a muse. 😒
Is World 12 are the best world to farm for EXP research on Shipyard in general?
there's your answer
ye
not much difference between the stages, 12-1 is better XP/oil and chip/oil but 12-4 is better XP/fight and coin/oil
I personally prefer 12-1 just because you can use shittier ships
Oh okay i will check
What backline ships should I raise?
overall yes it's where a majority of people grind
So the recommendation for the stage is Oil Efficiency and one lv115 Vanguard? I'm researching Neptune, i'm not touching Shipyard so, i'm on the ground
That hurt, alright
wat
also just 1 ship being used for research XP is highly inefficent since you're only getting 1 ships worth of XP counting instead of 3
Can someone give recommendation pls
So, 1 battleship and 3 Vanguards on frontline then?
what are your goals at this point, this isn't all your main line.
Illustrious is one of the best support CVs in w15
Do you know what oil cap is
Just full fleet that shit
There is litereally zero excuse to do anything less than that due to oil cap
everything there is just tech at this point
Goddamnit, i maybe too oil to watch the old guide, alright, imma do it, pray for oil i hope
AL YT
Yup there's your problem
I’m stuck in w14 rn. I have a fair amount of backline ships built, but since I’m farming exp for some ships anyway, I was wondering what else I should take with me
/oilcap oh and btw in case you didnt know
That what their said? I can finally go all out and not use 1:3 ships, it making me suffer so much wasted time, thank
w14 is not a good place to level up random ships... but the point still stands, illustrious is a good support CV for w15 when you get there.
No I mean like I’m farming exp in w12 in preparation for w14.
i won't repeat myself, illustrious is good to have leveled. The rest there are basically fleet tech only if you have better already leveled
A majority of AL Youtube guides are either outdated, misinformation, completely incorrect, a combination of two, or all three at the same time
This is why we generally dont reccomend video guides to anyone here
All the YT hate, I'm pretty sure whomever recommended 1:3 on youtube was misunderstood. Pretty sure no one actually recommended that.
even OG investigator doesn't say things like that
well there was a time before oil cap was a thing so that was a strat
it's just extremely outdated by this point because we have oil cap
no, people most certainly did
1:3 was recommended before oilcap existed
hell the recommendation was 1:1 if your research goal was a main fleet ship
Gear and fleet reccs were just as bad as well
I'm on Vanguard, so i'm using all 3 Vanguards on frontline, but is costing way too much oil below world 12, i'm not yet to even reach w8
push for ch9
that's your problem... oil cap doesn't kick in till c9
in terms of exp, which stage is better?
you shouldn't do any heavy lifting for research before ch9
forget about farming PR then, get 2 good fleets together, push for W12 then start farming CDC
don't worry about research prior to w9 anyway
you should be at at least W9 before you consider hard grinding research ships
Oil cap isnt a thing until W9
Then i will have to speedrun then, at least with fleet 2 now decently strong with most are lv90, i can do it, hope so.
also, FYI, you can still run a 0 ammo fleet
pretty sure you should read newbie guide
12-1/12-4 is what a majority of people do since while it's not the most oil/xp ratio efficent, it's got a good balance of gold and XP (And also a chance for cognitive chips)
Only my fleet 1 are capable of doing that since Asuka is lv110 and oath
asuka?
Nah i just join and i grind all blind without reading a single Guide before
should I craft nepgun or buy it with protocores?
Senran Kaguya collab
Neither
neither
use a 155 instead if this is for BB secondaries
ah right, yeah, read newbie guide. Hope you have unicorn retrofit... otherwise, that's your next task
Unicorn only able to retrofit half way, since i was running out of coins
the ones that I get from sakura boxes?
here go read this https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
unicorn retro priority 1
Damn, i retrofit Laffey first, but alright
Laffey's not bad but yeh
@craggy hedge don't worry, never too late to start doing it right.
Alright thank you, i will take note of my mistake
they also use different materials to retro
Only real way to hard brick your account is to scrap your Hedgehog or spend F2P gems on skins so you're fine
@craggy hedge check your beginner missions, you probably didn't work on portland either, did you
lv80, full limit break, ongoing half of Retrofit
um whats a hedge hog?
even hedgehog can sort of be worked with by using the purple depth charges instead.
They really need to give us a hedgehog replacement route
oh i do have it poggers in the chat
Do we have an educated guess on when series 7 will be implemented?
July
July 11th
did they give date already?
no, that's my educated guess
cheeky from the future
I have become educated.

I'm just sure it's July because devs said see you in July 
how to play this game on pc ? did i need to use emulator ?
Yes
this might sound like a stupid question how do i edit my OPS Fleets
Does Mogador have any niche, or not really better than anyone in any meta fleet comp for any situation?
Go to a blue port
owh okay i tought there some launcher or something
~~gph is built on educated guesses ~~
Press fleet in the top right
Fleet deployment is one of the options
It is my first file boss loot. is this considered good?
for CL, which gun should I consider getting with? except for ply gun since i'm focusing on my 2nd tenrai
Ill tyr this tanbk you
Normal for file boss
155kai is easy to craft
^
all files are basically the same
ooh ok
you just get some RNG on which plates and materials you get but the amount is the same
Speaking of… what are the best support CVs for w15? I don’t have Implacable neither Indomitable
3 lustys are fine and perma
do /w15, there's an entire section on support CVs
I know we can get the Vanguard event rerun in one month or two so I can get Indomitable but I want to know other options
see /w15 command in bots
Highly doubt it's gonna be in a month or two since there's Emden event to rerun first
Nothing explicitly confirmed yet
Pretty sure Chen Hai Retro is better than the langley's
Thank you. I was reading the /w15 thing
The /w15 thing is more accurate than this wiki page
The w15 thing says this about choosing cv support:
#gameplay-help message

But the game says I already have it?
Are you sure you're not confusing Heinrich for Adalbert?
Heinrich hasnt had a new skin since like last year
ah, that might be it
is there any way to avoid elite enemy at the event with auto mode ?
they are targetted first always
okay guess i will do manual then
but they aren't hard?
for old player might be true but im weak af :kek
are you using unicorn?
yea
not everyone has everything at their disposal
welp, good luck soldier
What's the rest of the fleet looking like?
probably better to auto the level you can auto rather than manually searching a level you can't, tbh, (assumptions being your fleet and gear is as good as you can make it for the time being)
could be a level, Limit break and/or gear issue
you want to kill those elites anyways as they tend to drop better rewards
i manage to survive against lvl 100 enemies with lvl 60 ships (with garbage instead of gear). although i have strong main fleet (with shitty gear)
the elites also search you out, right? hard to avoid them
not on clearing mode
they stop moving on clearing mode? cool
i finished w12 do you think i can do the w10 hard with my fleet?
That was it, my bad
maybe, maybe not
hmmm the boss way easier than the elite mob lol i guess i will just use 2 healer for mobbing instead 1
i'm really curious about your fleet now
lemme try and see if my bossing fleet strong enough to kill the boss 
what's the arbiter this month again? Heavy?
yes
ight
im trying to look in the wiki but i may be blind, war archives maps have oil cap or no?
D maps do
who do i switch out for achorage?
alrighty thank you < 3
is she dev 25 at least?
15
no one
then no one
Whats rhe best fighter interception?
Flapjack
i currently have 3 UR bullin for alsace is there anyway if its worth to summon on alsace for the last dupe or nah?
nah
how close are you to pity and how many cubes do you have right now?
Also do you have any other URs and if so, how close are they to MLB?
im at 80 tbh i dont know if ill hit pity probably would but yeah gold is the maain issue
No
80 cubes left? Jesus then yeah dont do it
And also Alsace > NJ > Guam > Mog
no
so i should just save 4k core and get monthly ur then?
you can get 5000 cores per month
yeah, or cruise pass too
oh right forgot about the cruise pass i might buy that
yeah just wait till you can afford the 4th bullin while you start building back up your cube stocks
Cruise pass is at least another month from now
oh, the medal shop doesnt count for the limit
good to know
you dont need to buy the pass to get the UR Bullin, it's on the free track
only buy the pass if the skin appeals to you
materials dont worth for the price?
the materials are nice yes but without taking the skin into consideration, it's a bit harder to justify the price
I always buy the pass and I don't think it makes much of a difference, you're fine without it
Just give it a try. You just might loose some oil. And time 😆
pass doesnt give much for mats
yeah thats true i didnt really liked the skin but cared about the materials but yeah ill wait on alsace for now and do retro for saratoga yuudachi and juneau in meantime
i need the oil :c
is helena retro needed?
youd get more from just buying oil
Hmmmm
the retro skill helps with timing her debuff with backline
Who to buy
Helena retro is pretty good but not a high prio over Unicorn, Portland, and your starter
And since you already got those three done, you can do her next sure
What does Mobbing fleet mean, I thought it is just the Fleet that will deal with escorts ship while boss fleet will dealing with Flagship boss
Hood
Everyone else is tech fodder
hood if you still need a flag
yes
Same for this?
Mobbing = fights anything that isnt the boss
Boss fleet = fights the boss
no one

complete tech fodder
yeah im just doing this like they said and i didnt see helena retro so i wonderer about it
Event shop has some oil in exchange for event points just in case you have not bought it
oh righ Saratoga
well you already have Enterprise so ig Sara and Helena would roughly be the same prio, you can do both of them at the same time if you can since they take up different retro mats
can u link the thread so i can read 
im pretty much done with the retrofits but yeah cruiser retros made me insane
wheere laffey and z23 ? did they counted as the same as javelin since all of em starter ship ?
Retrofitting more than one starter as a new player is a waste of resources
i only invested on javelin probably thats why
ooooooo
yeah , specially all of em have same type so its hard to retro
because this is my literally my only fleet since beginning of the game
i bought mogador and UR weapon on the event shop what should i focus on from now on?
can u do SP?
wut
how about avoiding the elite enemy
the elite enemy actually harder than the boss imo , specially if u fight all of them
hmm never tried that tbf
i have a mindset that i should kill everything i see on the map even the question marks

is it even possbile to do that 1 fleet tho?
wut u need 2 fleet bruh
owh okay
well account is probably 21-28 days old in play time so i cant really say anything
i played about 2 weeks and dropped the game and return last week and play rn yeah
ikr but atleast i can auto it 
no no no i can kill the elite now pretty easily
all of them with clearing mode
why are you even farming D2, D1 is better if you can't farm D3
well idk 

so d1 better huh ?
yes
yes
well okay i will farm d1 then
and i wanna leveling my ships to meet the requirement for d3
i farmed d1 till i hit the level req for d3
i think d2 easier than w10
Sp? Not really
i love when unique name puts the trash emoji 😂
im stuck at c2 anyways
it's more realistic to 1:1 mob SP and keep stuff on the boss
clearly the baguette gun 
why is D1 better
doesn't it have like the 2nd best HE CA gun or sth
more importantly, easiest event map to have oil cap
you realistically never use that gun
that argument only works when you cannot do higher stages
it's more efficient for event points
i dont understand the "oil cap" thing u guys mind explaining if its alr?
/oilcap
lol
thats just intentional ban pls
lol
does D1 only have 5 mob fights or something
does oilcap thing also works for event stages?
for D maps yes
did you not read the conversation when you read oilcap
D1 isn't better. That's just weird. You won't notice .01 more event points per oil
lel
well idk what comes after my current stage so i didnt know what is D atm
D map is the hard mode version of B
D is the will left by our pirate ancestors
D is in the name of the map if you're on the right screen
Why are you stuck on C2?
21-28 days account i think i only have 1 fleet and they are not even fully min-maxed atm so im just building my second fleet so i can go 9-1 and other event stages
Unicorn + helena can literally solo C3
when i tried c3 my unit did die after second or third fight
Add 4 more ships and...
but tbf i think i upgraded a lot after that happened
Show gear (or use some)
d1 is lvl 92 mobs, so similar to 9-3
they have a thread, probably can add gear to it
i think my worst gears at helena atm
meh
Didn't show port but helena is great albeit unenhanced
ah forgot about that sorry lol
your backline is more of the issue
Idk about using +0 weapons in level 70+ content
That Portland's gun is bad even for purple btw
yeah i check the tierlist site for the gears and she dont have anything to replace so i just put stuff
It's the worst purple CA gun in the Game
better to use parallel Torp bomber on unicorn. but maybe you don't have a good one yet
If you open all your purple, gold, and rainbow tech boxes, and post your gear in the thread, then cheeky can help you with gear
alr let me create one
I got more than 340 vouchers excluding bought
Which cap was incorrect
Probably sp and daily mission
Is this the 14th day or 15th day of event?
should be the 14th
Na today is 15
alr let me create one
cause you include the first day
alr posted the gears
tuesday -> mon is 7 days, we had that twice, then plus 1 for today
Check back in 8 days
so today being the last SP day makes sense
ugh, so never got more than one bearne drop after 85k points. I guess I'm buying the rest
when did they update cat ui?
manage conmforts UI was quite a while ago
this
same with comforts
i dont ever rmbr this
wait chat if I trigger the "live for 8 more second" aux but win before the 8 seconds is up do I get to use it again next battle
they changed it to that when they added the pirate cats 
last? I thought we had another week
it was def after since that was the last time i looked at cats
man its actually been a while I dont remember what old cattery looked like
Last one for ur vouchers I mean
Has anyone tried using Akashi on W15? Not for her weak heal but anti-air
I used vestal meta and she was ok
ah, understood, i missed that context
But then again I could use almost any ship and be ok
how should I prioritize mlbing, sovetsky, kronshtadt, mogador, and alsace?
soyuz > alsace > mog then wait or wait at mog even
Right now I’m stuck on world 3 what units should I put on my fleet
thanks
smoldg unicorn hiryuu - portland helena laffey
hmmm do implacable need prototype Tenrai? don't have wyvern rn
Since they fixed her, I've noticed Mog has the approximate tankiness of a CB. She even outlasted Brest in opsi grind when I had her as an off-tank. Definitely no longer a suicidal squishy
Implacable should almost never use tenrai
anyone have some screenshots of mog performance?
i dont get how tenrai ties in with wyvern
Give this a read, you need it
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
I don’t have unicorn 🧍♂️
get her then
it's not difficult
Okay
grab missing ships in guildshop
is there a guide on commisions
like... which ones are worth doing i guess lol
just don't do major 1.2k oil commissions
prioritise gem or cube ones
You just take the commission for the resource you need more
This isn't 2020 with the commission that only gives exp and quick finishers
ive been avoiding longer ones to hopeuflly refresh more
Refresh for what
more commisions




