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you don't use wyverns for OpSI boss fleets....
worth what?
i would open the game and find it in the gear lab and screen shot it and then post it to answer this question, something you could also do... that said, it's not in gear lab yet
Characters
are the ships worth pulling for?
Yes
alsace good BB
Do people mlb their rare ship before retiring them?
i keep all ships until i get them to 120, and then I only retire them if they are easy to replace and I feel empoverished to keep them instead of just buying dock space
how is this compared to the pr6 one
Alsace yes
thganks
only against medium armor
I was speaking in the role as a BB aux gun in W14
2cvs can influence the launche time of each other?
They indeed can
how so
The first will necessarily delay the other by a set amount due to ABSCD, no matter how closely synced they are
CVs?
... Yes...

You know how when you call airstrike, the bar must still circle around for the second one?
how do you count 10 strikes in less than a second?
annihilated is sad after such a showing.
My question is
What does that prove, exactly
100 down to 2 is amazing
Oh just damage
I thought that was meant to disprove the 10 strikes in a second thing, even when the timer is clearly showing otherwise
i was just training you 
you'll find your answer quicker in #al-general
Training me for what
where can I get exp books?
same place you get coins and oil
academy?
only works if you have lecture hell unlocked
yes
To unlock the unique aug we need to upgrade it to +10 right?
Assuming you mean the skill
hi, where do we go exactly to get the old UI back? cant find it 
check the common resource guide by samheart564

check #al-general pins
3rd pin
thank you 

will the special invitation thing be permanent in ur depot?
kk
which is better 134mm aa or the twin staag for bbs
depends
what does it depend on?
Twin 134 is used just for it's FP stat, as an AA gun it's pretty terrible, so you're only using it for the FP that it gives, so you'd typically use it where AA isn't an issue, however the STAAG does come with Hit which in itself can be beneficial for certain fights, also STAAG is a generally good AA Gun for ships with poor AA 
Is there a timeframe on mogador buff
so i would go for staag for bbs in w14+?
you can use Twin 134 for 14, but potentially STAAG for 15, it would be simple to just use STAAG for both though 
if the skill is silent about debuff time limit, assume it lasts till end of battle/enemy dead
Or check other languages to see if only en fucked up
did EN fuck up this time
All clients fucked up this time
thats true
Which buff though
i assumed it was the torpedo damage thingy
brennus any good?
yes, good with good tech
few questions if someone is kind enough to chime in
for AvP IJN fleet this works at 0 RLD with AvP going second and haku going third
1- does the order matter? do i want hakuu first cuz of her strike or is it fine cuz it is fast enough
2- does it still work at max RLD tech? i guess the broader question will a 0 RLD sync work at any tech level or does tech affect different ships differently
3- how do i know there is not a better comp that uses elite manjuu/homing beacon? or is non timing aux loadout always better?
- AvP second is the only requirement
- Tech affects ships who have different RLD differently, max tech won't work because this is already very tight.
- Ask 🔮
I did ask for the AvP cheat sheet and was told it was lost to time 
but thanks this makes sense.
guess I will keep "experimenting"
Pretty decent by regular SR CA standards, you prob wont use her much over other options
has +1 EVA tech so that's neat
prototype triple 203mm rainbow good?
rainbow good
If you mean the Triple 203mm/55, best HE CA gun
If you mean the Triple 203mm SKC, best AP CA gun
welp the wiki automatically led me to Unzen gun when i typed that in so it is what it is
smh
might want to utilize Prototype 
all 3 rainbow guns have prototype 
3?
bcus unzen fake
I wish they just reserved that for research
is Brennus good or should i keep using portland insated
use portland
^
Cheaper to raise and you need to do her retrofit for rookie missions
And realistically Breenus wont really see much use, at most maybe a transitional unit between Portland and Anchorage+the CBs (but there are prob better options for even that role)
whats the consensus on mogador?
She's still janky af for us on EN but iirc she's been killing herself less often on CN/JP
I struggle to see a use for Mog, she has an interesting kit mind you 
Gun focused version of Shimakaze
usual off tank DPS stuff
Shimakaze can't off-tank so 
The invitation thing. Is that a free unit? And if so. What's the better choice there?
so... instead of monstrous torp theres monstrous cannon damage
yes
Has anyone figured out a setup to facetorp with mog
bossing she's going to be kind of tied with 2234
I don't know maybe BisZwei/2234/VG/tank/Plymouth/Mog
since mog is kind of bad rn should i hold off on leveling and building her
who is 2234?
Alsace
why she called that?
Chinese pronunciation, like how they call Kearsarge 7234
are they good ?
should be prioritizing Alsace for LB anyway
i have no clue what you're talking about
yep I can see that
i don't want this to be a thing
it's not usually a thing (here)
but if you see any CN references to 2234 and 7234 it's those 2
i'll try to remember you're the one to explain it when I see it again
how is mog "tied" with Alsace?
to proc her debuff
as in in a boss comp if you want to use Mog you have to use her with Alsace
mog activates Alsace's s2 and Alsace buffs mogs
ah, so you mean you have to use them together "tied"... not that they are equal performance
I hope mog is good.
nah you dont need mog to have her go first
it's got nothing to do with whether alsace goes first
if anything mogs activating her S2 means she only needs to go off earlier than the other BBs once
there are ways to set up the debuff without mog
Brest
not too hard to just sync it
well yeh you don't need to use mogs for Alsace, but you need to use Alsace for mogs
could always not use mog
well yeh she doesn't have a clear lead, main thing being she hits harder for light but light BB comps you'll shove in tank/aurora/plymouth or something usually
even standard agir,helena,ply should outperform
if you're dropping helena for consistency 
and its not hard to get alsace to get ahead of bz
wait for Wichita anyway, that one Aurora doesn't have a seat
do we know wichita's skills?
meta mechs are kinda dumb and dont really prove anything
no but she's a light CA so Aurora doesn't work
like you would think alsace would be bis on repm but she sucks
oh, I thought withcita would do similar things or something, nvm
what makes her bad on repm?
low damage
but yeh rice I'm not saying she's in a strong spot to compete for standard BB in OS
shes good on her own in opsi but you dont need anything to enable her, with the correct setup she enables herself
she can but won't be way ahead of competition or anything
how do I know which meowfficers to keep?
tyy
some day sam will port it
Whats a good base bb cat to keep? Do you need to hit flame+soul?
just use whatever you have, cats are stupid expensive and not really recommended on rolling until you need a coin dump
How much does a catbox cost with the guild tech maxed?
1200 iirc
Guys how to get the UR plane part thingy
do opsi
Got enough gold mats for wyren
i know that but is there specific locations or bosses
Nope 
*Outside of the selectors and arby fight
you get 3 selectors from shop + 1 from arby every month

Can they appear in port shops?
is it worth leveling azuma gun for anything?
That's where they show up yes 
but if you havent unlocked the monthly reset system (which introduces the new shop system), it will be a bit RNG
Hmm how do i unlock that monthy shop?
its the only he cb gun in the game, altho you wont use it very often
beat opsi story
beating opsi story and wait for end of month reset
Which CL guns (main gun slot) are worth to +13?
I did 
then you're prob waiting on the monthly refresh at this point
idr if arby was a part of it tho
It wasnt
I got mixed up with unlocking the arbiter fight
I got to the core thingy though
then wait for next month

i have a lot of unclaimed mail with me does that mean i need to take ALL of them before the new update or can i sort them out after the update
after the new update drops you need to reduce what you have in terms of mail count to less than 100 or else you'll stop recieveing more mail
What's the ideal equipment for Juneau in pvp?
Oh thats not bad, i only have 35 mails lol
that's all the details we have right now
Is Portland retro worth?
When is 3d dorm implemented
who knows
Is it worth using?
Rainbow guns aren't super hard to obtain so imo rainbow or bust
often if you need to ask its likely none
you likely dont have higher priorities completed
What about gold gear?
good sir when are the patch notes usually out for EN?
tomorrow
thank you The Ministry of Big Balans Botes
not that you'll get these details from the EN patch notes anyway probably
i probably won't understand anyways
better to just read the machine translated JP notes
Weren’t they gonna refresh the shop where packs are sold too?
Yes
You need to do a good chunk of her retrofit for your starter missions anyways so may as well go all the way
No. Even against Jim guichen gun wasn't necessary
After this even is over I’m considering getting a bunch of the common and blue ships levelled and MLBd to get to anchorage. Should I actively do this or just passively level them through commissions?
have you MLB'd all of your Eagle union elites yet?
whats the deal with the event torpedos? are they good or just weird
more so weird
quad magnetic better then?
yes, on auto
gotcha
How do I get Epee? I don't see her in the banner or shop
Nah that’s kind of what I’m debating doing. I’m just stuck for purple bulins
pt accumulation reward
Oh... I see it now. 10000 pts to get, ok. Thanks
Good on OvA and Felix only
More mid/late game players: are you swimming in purple bulins? I’m hard bottlenecked right now
yea
sooner or later, you wont need to use as much bulins and they kinda just stockpile
Is this tierlist still reliable?
https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/bb
yes
they just havent updated it in a while since most of the evaluators are busy with other stuff
Alright yeah I’m trying to push for pr4 I really want anchorage but need about 12 purple bulins 😂
why do u need 12 purple bulins for pr4?
he's getting tech points to unlock her development
Mlb eagle union ships
i see, well just do weeklies, and get medals for bulins, also try to do exercises
Yeah the exercises I’ve been lacking on. Will step it up there.
Do subs get the same xp regardless of how many I run?
Correct
same goes for all ships in general
Appreciate it.
does this game a monthly gem pass? i cant seem to find one
Yes it’s in the gem shop portion
Oh wait nvm that’s just cubes with some gems lol
its like a buy it get 500 then daily cube/oil yea
That you get daily lol yeah forgot since I haven’t bought in awhile
IMO best deals are the 30$ packs with the skin gacha
so hows alsace
UR BB good
Dunno didn’t get her after 165 pulls can’t afford more 💀
you still have two weeks to get her 
right there with u
Yeah so far zero luck with commissions giving me cubes..
anyways #al-general if you're gonna continue talking about your gacha luck
I wonder if it's worth going for 70k if I already have over 30 UR Books of each or if I should stop at 55k 
Any opinions?
Why? I stop at 55k always pretty much
It’s free so if you think it’s worth time investment then I’d say go for it.
id assume it depends on how much u actually use them
I sometimes just leave my academy empty so meh
Random UR books at 70k right? I dont think its worth to go just for random books
At this point I only use them on URs and DRs so I'll probably just stop at 55k then 
worse, tech boxes
Enjoy your repair crane
oh shi time to grind to 100k then
100k what?
nah we getting steam catapults with this one 💯
I still don't think it's worth grinding to 70k just for the skill books
event points
Oh
What will you even buy with 70k anyways
with this event you may reasonably have 70k event points worth of stuff to buy but if you don't I wouldn't push that far
Unless you’re not done with pr6 smootie then the prints are pretty useless
I’ll just grab my vouchers and mlb bearn and that’s it
Spend the rest on gear skins ig
Shinano recognizes herself as a third Sakura ship?
How many free UR Vouchers are there left?
Or rather how many do you need to buy to get the second copy if you did everything
160
I enjoy how the number suggested has steadily decreased, now it’s 340 free vouchers
Aight 
thanks
assuming worst case scenrios
1 copy of bearn(8k), 4 crystals(8k), the DD Gun(10k), the torps(2k), the chips(3k), the arrays(5k), the PR Prints(15k), the DR prints(10k), the augment cores(3k) and the 2 SR Cat boxes(6k), and enough vouchers the mogador dupe which is 24k
numbers 
which comes out to 94k event points....
I don’t get why smootie would farm for pr prints now but aight
I'm not 
how do u even approach pr when ur behind
well they are behind on PR....
normally
Well not the PR ones I only get the DR ones normally
there's no special method, just do it normally and efficiently and you'll catch up in time
i see
pr8 waiting room 
whens a good time to start focusing on PR?
when you're in W12
W12
😦
thats to farm the xp right
Both coins and xp
Since you wanna have it working all the time if possible and both D and G research use coins
Basically just that you have enough coin income
And w12 is just a good stopping point for farming in general
If your focus pr before
Then you reach there later/with weaker ships probably
can u start capping xp before reaching lvl100
Lb limits, but if you mean stockpiling exp (like the 3 mil cap) then no
so prior to w12, just choose someoone from pr1 but don't spend resources to unlock it?
Thanks!
prior to W12 it's just a side thing
You can. Just remember gear and lbing and actually making your fleet stronger takes priority
I wouldn't go that far but it's not a priority nor is it an active point of focus
just something that goes on in the background for now
Early game you’ll be perpetually poor
Gear and ships take a lot of coin, spending on research will be a bit difficult
true i am poor
i love looking at the research tab cuz all the ships r cool...
u should start as soon as u are able to do roon
3k / day should be affordable and don't do her catch up
You can go six prints a day anyhow
But yeah don’t rush. A lot of things in AL take time
Does anyone have the tier list for ships?
will next update fix mogador?
Serenity… we don’t know

#bot-spam /tierlist
Cheers
en didn't get the update yet
?
Try to not get your brain controled by it tho
only CN if i'm not mistaken
Jp
and jp
jp already has it 
And people are still unsatisfied tbh.
You can prob cope for more potential patches, but don’t waste too much brain space on it
i won't be able to mlb her until next year so i don't care 
3k what a day? :c
i am even more unsatisfied since we still don't get the patch
Huh, has alsaces en skill always been 16s instead of 20s?
3k coins 
tyyy!
Is it viable to have laffey 2 be frontline tank (with aircraft carriers as backline)?
in certain content yes
More or less than agir ?
depends on the content
what the best comp for Alsace in Meta fights
So uhh, hows the walking smell fetish shipgirls damage?
Compared to other vanguard ships I mean
Champy and joff probably
forgot to say in terms of BB comp UR setup
Wait you mean easy meta fights?
just meta fight in general not the current meta boss rodney
cuz rodney is hard for bb comp
i feel like Alsace needs to be sync with other bbs to abuse her dmg taken buff
well which META showdown
beacuse the comp will always change depending on the boss's mechanics
also sync so she goes before other bbs to abuse her dmg isn't restricted to meta fights 
for example uhh Hiryuu Meta
kinda want to try Alsace Bisco Zwei, Soyuz
all the older META would be the usual suspects
Bismarck Zwei, Alsace, Vanguard/Soyuz, Brest, Plymouth, Hindenburg
is her gear is pretty much the same with other dps BBs? or should be same with vang?
I haven't actually looked at gear set-ups yet but she is slow for a UR BB so you'll have to take that into account
Why does this guys avp have a cool border
That's just how PRs and DR borders look, look at Agir's
soyuz is slow btw i think Alsace is pretty much almost as fast as vanguard if only raw rld stats
Soyuz isn't that slow
and Alsace is slow because she doesn't have any reload buffs
Oh fr that's sick
yeah and i think thats probably gonna be problem when sync her faster with DPS bbs like Bisco Zwei
Hows the new rainbow gun
for Comparison, Musashi has 171 Reload stat after skills
Alsace by comparrison has 177
if you want to include max reload tech that turns to 190 vs 194
i think i need to oath Alsace cuz yeah all of my UR BBs are oather and much more faster lmao
Best dd gun
Outside aoa/barrage dependant girls
Damn, and I just got the Type 98 Kai
Ah well, how does the UR DD stack up against Laffey?
2
she doesn't really
she's a gun focused Shima that can off tank is the gist of it
can someone give me the preference of AA on vanguards again?
I take it she does less damage than Unzen and Hinden?
last I checked math had her between Plymouth and Hindenburg
Oh cool
To the shadow realm with my Unzen then
or well hold on, maybe replace Agir?
neither Unzen or Mogador are tanks
I would use Mogador instead of Laffey 2 for OpSi mobbing
doesnt matter that much anyways
do vanguards prefer the larger calliber AA or the smaller calliber?
trying to build mogador
What does the heart mean at top left?
it's not that simple
it depends on how good the AA of the ship actually is and the content the fleet is to be used in which will dictate AA gun set up
whoever is in that slot passively gains affinity
pog
hello! I am a returning player and was wondering where the returner rewards are located
can I just plop any golden AA and just forget about it-
also what aux does mogador like
usual DD auxes
confused with the new menu
Probably give her an Accelerator or w/e you got
Hows Mog vs. Light compared to the DDG's?
Not enough info huh
accelerator?
and if you really don't wanna think about your AA gun set uo just slap this on all your vanguards
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_113mm_AA_(QF_Mark_I)#Type_3-0
Nope
idk where it is but u can switch the ui back to the old one in settings if that helps
wait is that different to this
that's the same one
oh thats great :D ty
It's returning player reward tab considered an "event"?
Or does it have it's own tab even before the UI update? 
How good is warspite
Powercrept and overpriced
Heavily powercrept by most BBs
Damn
Take a screenshot of main page but should be near your name
Own ribbon before more like
I switched it already apperantly I wasn't gone long enough for me to get them
its 30 days before you get returnees no?
not sure I've been gone for like 2 months
probably not, I didn't play in February at all and didn't get it
I was gone for 38 days and I got it
interesting, oh well 🦐
thats 29 no?
are there any healers worth running aside from perseus and unicorn
Volga Aquila and Klaudia but they are more considered as secondary healers that should be ran beside unicorn in intense content in w14/15
wait how can you auto repeat opsi? Theres a prompt in the middle always
wait what volga is a healer?
Adjust opsi settings to reduce tb guidance and auto use items
Do note they aren't able to hold the fleet together long enough on their own hence why they are considered secondary healers
wheres that
like this?
Yes
what about like kazagumo is she considered a secondary healer
so now I should be able to auto repeat till I run out of AP right?
Reduce TB and Auto use should be ON
Theres not much vanguards with notable healing
Its only really been san francisco and brest
wait so I turn reduce tb on
She will still appear but not as much.
but she wont pester me anymore and I can have longer runs right?
Mhm
is kazagumo not considered because she takes too long to proc healing?
Kazagumo has a heal?
ya she heals ur carriers some
Yes, and also the fact its only for like backlines specifically your carriers.
Even worse...
How good 1 lb mogador compared to maxed retrofitted starter ship ?
Dayum okaay
fdg is coinable?
she heals flagship if its carrier too so potentially 2
513 iirc
/devbp
9 coin bp a day so just about 2 months to dev30
9? why not 10?
How do people get gold retrofit mats? Is it from hard mode drop only?
i heard 9 best
Hard node mainly
best is whatever you can afford to do sustainably
Occasional ones from the guild shop and one time from 3 starring hard node maps
by the time i can build fdg roon should be dev30 so it works out
10 is the general reccomended
I have never seen anyone say 9
I only really consider ships healers if they are able to provide a good amount of healing while also being able to affect more ships in the fleet
Worth me getting Independence from core data shop?
I'm guesing the higher my story stage, the higher the drop rate?
Also I didn't know 3 starring a hard mode stage give guaranteed 1,thanks for the info, I wil try to 3 star the lower story level than
i literally have negative gold retrofit mats 💀
If you have a few pairs of shells sure
We have no clue about drop rate but higher world = more core data per run so that's why you go for the highest world you can
We don't know how drop rates change
Damnn icic
What’s shella
3 starring hard node stages above w3 guarantees 2 not 1
Nice
Shells, cheeky is bad at typing
/coredata

Blame mobile not me
Amagi-chan may have rotted my brain but it’s a skill issue at this point not mobile 
Did the devs mention how many URs they'll release this year?

speaking of retro who do i prefarm for next, i have sandy retro mats farmed, maybe ayanami next?
Helena & Indep
done for both
Well are you actually gonna use Ayanami
Yuudachi if you have her
torp stat for hard mode
Also I must reiterate how low of a priority san Diego is if you're still catching up as far as UR bullins go
Well one of your main sources of UR bullins is the prototype shop
If you need UR bulins, they take priority over Sandy's retro item
alsace mlb is ready
And Sandy's retro item uses the same currency as the UR bullins
and i can mlb mog if i want to
theyre not dropping another UR anytime soon are they
Depends on how you define soon but UR bullins don't exactly grow in trees either
3 months probably
nop not until September probz
i can be ready for another UR in 3 months
And at this point double UR events may or may not be a semi regular event
6k spec cores per month
Not to mention all the UR reruns inbetwen
plus other sources like cruise mission
no date on vanny rerun yet right
I'm aware of all the sources
And that's why I'm saying be cautious
Because multiple URs can and will drop in relatively short periods of time
And UR bullins are something you need time to build up
That's part of the reason why I pulled 700 cubes for Alsace
alright so if i get sandy retro item, whats the worst that could happen? i dont have enough bulin to mlb new UR right there and then, so i just wait maybe another month?
Yes but you just cost yourself an additional month for a ship that won't offer you much for most content in the game
Vs one that could
why are u so fixated on sandy 
Sandy is practically speaking unnecessary for pretty much everything but W13h and W15
because its well known what she does vs new ship that is unknown and may not be fully tested in the period they are available
new will always be better i know that
sandy well known for being expensive
And mediocre for most content frankly relatively
You're talking about ship who's surface damage is about that of a maxed starter
And who's ehp is nothing remarkably
the storage room
Her main selling point is her AA which is only gonna truly stand out in W13 hard and W15
All other content her AA is overkill and there are cheaper options for the job
so id be sitting around doing nothing and waiting for a good ship to drop that solves my problems
?
Can you explain?
Is it really a place where you can store oil and coins?
what are ur problems currently
?
wait what does this mean
This is for excess mail
Sandy won't be solving a lot of issues for you
id like to work on w15 eventually
If you need a cheap AA carry for w13z retrofit Juneau
Do you have any idea how far off that is for you potentially right now
Eh?
Escess email is automatically opened and put in here?
A few months at least realistically
if i build overkill AA sandy it just means i dont need to worry about AA in most of anything else by just throwing her in
might not even use sandy in W15 
i dont see that as a problem and more of a benefit actually
Yes, the mail limit is 100 and any excess oil and coin ends up in here.
Using sandy doesn't mean all your AA problems disappear
i don't think w15 is solvable with sandy though 
most of the aa will be from the cv
yeah but itll be easier
You still need to use good aa guns and have a good aa set-up for plain heavy content
Not to mention good ships and other good geat6
Cool.
The other things will be just opened and put into depot?
i didn’t use sandy in W15 
Plain = plane?
plus its something i can start doing now
You know who else has great AA and isn't expensive and doesn't cost cores and also serves as a tank?
Cheshire.
For the content you can tackle immediately less than you think
i'd work on something more realistic than w15 now 
did u clear w14 ?
sandy just isn’t gonna change much for you rn if ever
Well "isn't expensive" she actually is expensive but she isn't demanding for you to dump everything all at once.
They haven't even cleared W13 yet
Just get Shimanto and forget about aa
i think u should just do what u want its not like ur account is gonna be ruined
🤝 I didn't use sandy, shimanto, Guam, laffii, or Cheshire for my 15-4 lethal 3 star
Anything beyond w13 is just extra challenge and gems, you are in no rush to clear it
truly an alpha pro gamer 
No you need to manually claim
And after you claim it goes there
so what will happen to people with >100 mail
Member when there was actual plot in those
K, I see.
You stop receiving mail after July 13th if you don't do some house keeping
"Remembee when" it stopped after chapter 3...
Actually does someone have a little memo/message regarding the new mail system so I can pin and we can just point people towards that system.
so what youd suggest i do then
I have access to 15 UR bulins. Who would be the better ones to LB? 😭
just sit around doing effectively nothing except building up mats
Finish Soyuz
Work on other things
Finish Soyuz > MLB Alsace
building up mats good 
If you need an AA carry for w13, do Juneau or Cheshire
Work on PR, Work on OpSi etc
Soyuz, Alsace, Gaum or Laffey 2
im still farming event
Finish Soyuz, then Laff2, Guam, Alsace
Total 14 bulins
There's a shit tone of stuff to be doing at any given point in AL
i cant do shit for some time unless i skip on bearn meta crystals
The rest are more niche and/or replaceable
Then focus on the event for now
Perfect thanks.
honestly I'd pick Shima over Guam
event takes no effort just time to press button spend oil
playing like idle game is relaxing but sometimes i want to do something more
honestly I’d pick Guam over shima
oh right
Shimakaze has like little to no relevance these days 
like plan future content id be doing
I didn't even check the other image
Guam has at least the attribute of being a cb
Then go outside and touch grass
And her neat aa niche
yeah Guam
Cheshire 2.0 

Guam it is. Thanks. Time to be broke.
What other URs do they even have....
just finish soyuz she's like one away from being MLB
they literally showed everything in 2 SS
Fuck Mobile
skill issue la
Cheeky pls open and close ur dc...
fuel mobile
i saw it on mobile there’s no excuse cheeky 
Android Discord breaks, and images get a little fucky
are u done from opsi of this month 
hidden zones strongholds abyssals and arbiter ?
Like that's literally all I see
No indication there's another image unless I scroll through and check
anyone have a CM fleet they can throw my way, btw? 
rainbow spam
Small rant over
carpet bombing it is 
Also just gonna casually ignore the questionable choices for research focus
Carpet bombing withh 800kg Tenrai bombs
the Dogs are medium, right? 
Yes
im working on opsi, story is now stuck somewhere
unless ive finished it
If you have no more missions for the story and it tells you how many days until opsi resets you have finished it
I have no idea what I'm doing research wise. 🙂 I'm surprised I made it this far.
Mogador is even worse than i thought….. she kept dying on event stages auto 🗿🗿🗿
What is your current research focus set to even
show her
6? To finish kearsarge. I'm like 40 away. And then ima finish agir. Then go to 5? For Plymouth.
there is a whole and visual tip but mtl
nevermind i havent finished opsi story, it was hiding in a corner of the map
Should have gone 4, 5 then 6 but what's done is done
why are u going backward ?
Also finish Haku and 2 tenrais before moving onto pr5
now u have a better goal than w15 
i also wanted her too but what must be done must be done 
Just not unlocked yet...
u mean u have her 500 prints
?
More like 400... I was never able go keep my mind on a single task 🤣
Well here's something that might help
When you max one ship in a season their face researches get knocked from the pool until you max everyone from a season
Just to make sure I'm not going insane, but Bataan Is in the merit shop pool, right?
Yeah I've learned that in pr6. I wish I paid attention to it earlier... I probably would be a little better off.
Hey, just checking, opsi doesn't do anything for affection right?
did newbies start with 4k guild coins or 2k?
4k iirc 
Unless you are out of oil 😉
whats the update tomorrow for?
Opsi
You could also use the ap refill things (forgot what their called) if you save them up
can someone explain why there are red markers on my ships
What happened before they showed up?
uh... idk it was actually a few days ago, weeks I think
they died, skills disabled
so how do I remove the red thing
Anyway yea this
repair at port
You can get rid of it in port and repair iirc
port repair removes the debuff
Ill send em to port once I run out of AP
Or you can spend 50 AP for the rest and repair order
well no it doesnt matter Im just doing corrosion 5
so yeah anyways its just a debuff, it doesnt matter, if it was a debuff of exp gain I would be more concerned
you get little exp in opsi tho
dont care, as long as it doesnt eat oil
also been grinding mats
to remove the debuff usually we go to a c1 zone kill 1 ship 
For me I just do 1 daily mission
or better u can wait for the daily missions and usually they spawn a ship in a port
One of the C0 ones preferably
where can I spend this on
Opsi shop?
Opsi shop
in blue port shops
ah, I just keep seeing special tokens, it was hidden
They have the Toils of War debuff, which isn't removed by winning a battle
What you're referring to is the Low Resolve debuff
what pr2 bp would you guy recc grabbing from guild shops

is this top 1 DD gun right now?
no
so what top is it?
depends on the ship but both rainbows are real good
ok, just want to know if it's worth crafting
it is worth
but for gear, dont think there's top 1, 2 or 3 because it depends again on what enemy armor you battle against with
Hi
For simplicity sake
It's the second highest dps for DD guns
But it has higher rof
And different armour modifiers
how do ppl normally clear the mission set of clearing D3 with all the new units
since its the second time with the second UR DD we have such an event
what do you mean "how"?
you just put the unit into the fleet you use to fight boss
was curious cause was thinking if ppl normally have a lot of bulins around to mlb those units
or maybe Im overthinking this too much
i mean, if youre that concerned or dont really have resources for it, just do it on b3 with minimal units

jsut put level 1 in, one at a time, they dont have to survive

u can do it at B3 , make 1 fleet with 1 1 formation for mobbing + 1 fleet with 1 good vanguard 1 good main ship + any of the new unit for bossing since the requirement is just fight the boss at B3 / D3 with the new ship and yeah they didnt need to survive
Have there been damage and team comp tests with alsace yet
probably just wait for next month CM if you want nonsimulation damage tests
takao is weird
Is the sap guns good with marco polo
no
top 2
Everyone please help me arrange 2 fleets to pass w14, my main ship was wiped out after just 1 note 
any fleets for current cm 
takao?
btw
btw
do i use goldburn+oxytorp instead of oxytorp+oxytorp for rodM if i dont have max CA RLD
ahm, what's the catch when I place mog in D3?
for unzen ? are u running nagato and mark 35?
i forgot to test that
if it gives extra torps then use goldburn
the nagato fleet sucks
no 
I meant what is the reward again if I place Mog in my attacking fleet in D3, Still not in game rn
idk 
iirc she doesnt get the extra shot with goldburn
wait mog's kit means ppl run washing machine on her 
means people are stupid in loadouts as usual
first mistake is thinking ingame reqs know what they are doing
if she dies anyways may as well get more fp
so what do I use 
ye the in game reccs suck ass
2x hp as usual
and augment?
make a thread and post your dock
im tryna cook but it looks like the kitchen itself is burning
tech diff
possibly
you might be able to sync alsace into that
my naga comp had a 30-40% and u prob got more tech than me
with my tech it was 50-60%
no nagato 
u only needed 1 scan ?
what scan?
Chat should i make firecest or sky pirate
also Fuck Helena
wyvern
Absolutely no T3 blueprint thing 
save till you have enogh for wyverrn

does having frame rate in 10-15 range affect my timing 
uh mby but it shouldnt matter

let me see if i can make alsace work in this
BearnMeta is a decent mobbing ship iirc?
shes ok as transitional yes
I know the shop priority says bearn before the torpedo but I’m struggling for purple bulins atm so won’t be using bearn anyway right away 😂
bearn meta is SR but she doesnt eat bulins of any kind
u mlb her with crystals
like all meta ships
torps are pretty meh
Try to pull her in SP/D3 rather than buy
Any tips for CM Takao?
#gameplay-help message replace helena with ply in first comp if syncing cv to helena is 2 much of a hurdle or ur dps is 🐢
Okay thx
Yeah I’m on D3 feel. Don’t have the average level for sp yet
Is there any way to kill submarines in w14? My main fleet gone after one battle because it was hit by a submarine 
Didn’t know you could get her on d3
how can i get it, I only have 1
you only need 1
u can only get 1
asw plane is in core data shop
Get asw plane to help or you can have 1 more dd with standard depth charge
asw plane in gearlab
oh right, they added that recently
or the one from guams event
uhh with alsace i almost 2 salvoed her with support
Should I buy 2 or 3 this one, and equip my entire CV?
How does the double torp compare to normally used torps
no, you should craft tbm avenger in gearlab and only equip on unicorn
copythat
not a good option for auto
Or just use the barracudas from D3
nice pun, ender would be proud
naruhodo

this one? 
that one
I started this reset wiht 100k gold
now its 30k 
isnt the gold TBM better 
or is that event limited
its better and limited from guam event yea
how much CA rld did i say to use?
I need to reach a average level of 95 in my fleet what is the fastest way to level my ship (only need to level one it is lvl 72 now) apart from the dorm
nice, Now my main fleet is safe, but the vanguard is barely alive, is there any good ship to tank w14?
yes, open a thread and post ur dock and we can fix ur fleet
where can i open a thread 
sorties is the main xp income
dorm is very slow
books are fast but expandable and give no affinity and also u need sorties to generate em so only use to make ships sortie able
type /thread something
should i get the twin or grind to get another mogador?
both
can i even still get mogador im at 58 voucher rn and i cant do the sp stage
you just said max tech
you can get both, theres still 2 weeks
also the cogs and arrays are good
and bearnmeta if u didnt drop her in d3 so reserve 8k
well near min seems better
but as far as prio goes is 1st mog >= rainbow gun > torps > bearnmeta(8k reserved) > 2nd mog copy > cogs, arrays, etc
so ig we getting the gun first and then the torps
yes all limited equip is high prio but this gun is also the best in its category
aight thanks
Description of all the available ships are in the pins
Although what may be the best choice for you will probably depend more on what you already have
wait it was a 5 shot setup wasnt ti
It indeed was
Iirc you said you wanted to keep her debuff uptime high
try trip410 and swap 1st saiun to ju87 on nano
im out of runs but this might require max cv rld
and not sure if top or bottom slot would be better for her
My main team
Here I'm new
Where is your starter?
While acknowledging the new ship probably won't be used right away in any event, due to the Bulin cost, I'd probably take either Zep or Heinrich for the German tech
I’m working on Saratoga now. Just need one more bulin to mlb her, is she more a mobbing or boss fleet ship?
Two birds one stone for me. Need the fleet tech and I think she’s a decent upgrade for Pennsylvania?
What makes Laffey Tex than Shimakaze?
Tanky [:
Saratoga is a CV, Penny a BB though
Double DB does make her more suited for mobbing, but there are certain setups where she is not a terrible choice for bossing
Where would you slot her in then here? (Ofc when she’s retro and mlb)
Penny is off flag though so more versatile generally right? Definitely not replacing Nelson or Hood
I would too but I really want amagi
what does the aux "Enigmata D" do?
any buff? Or just sound?
It turns on challenge mode in EX of this event
SuchiHuman help
I hit pity only have 354 coob
How do I manage my coob for future
Well, if you want her, then just get her
This is a waifu collection game at the end of the day
Fair enough
Oh, has Penny already been shuffled to off-flag
Ye OK, replacing her with Saratoga is fine, then
I thought she was your sole BB
Yeah nah between hood and Nelson retro I’m good for now.
Should I replace Nelson with amagi
sooooo.... how good is tier 3.5 C-
worse than above tiers on the cn tier list
we cant rly answer that
Anyone?
in what context is that cn tier list even in?
if its same tier as tirp then it really bad
No
no, dont replace nelson, nelson is stronger on retro
i dont wanna know, i saw howe and spite together
The problem is she isn't retro rn
if you look to the next of them, kgv is somehow there
she will be
spite is secretly a kgv
not worth to raise amagi just to replace her as she reaches close to 120
akagi muse being somehow worse than formidable muse... dear god
not sure, but doesn't feel different playing both versions
I think you misunderstood what I had said, in what context/guideline is the CN tier list in?
There are no kit differences between the 3 AL servers outside the fact EN hasn't received the mogador buff patch yet.
Because looking at the tier list you had sent. it's so all over the place
looks like its the campaign one
so 14? 15?
idk if they changed to 15, its prob 14+15 since theres a support cv section in it
idk how you justify tossing all the loli cvs in 1 pack
i think its the μ update, but i think the bottom section didn't really change since then
Iirc anything below A (or A-?) are just there for reference, and not much reason to use the lower tier ones
Anyway, don't use CN list unless you read Chinese, or don't use the list at all as real CN guide is specific for a certain map and published elsewhere
Ye a tl isn't really useful for 14/15
Wanna ask,is there anyone in here I should get as beginner?
I'm pretty sure wishing well isn't for beginners.
Don't pull there if you don't have a lot of cubes.
Save cubes, you can do daily light ww if you want
ok thx,how about the free sr ship selector from minigame?
Also save, pick one you need or missing, later
I have one ship I need to lvl to 95 how do I quickly level them
Does this Main Gun's skill work as written for a preloader BB? Just curious
Whats this
ur memento that u invited hein
Idk I have one too but I don't know what it's for
its just a trophy
Fastest is by grinding
Slap them in dorm for 1. bit of extra xp, and 2. morale restore so you can grind with them longer in a sitting
For older players, fastest is by rushing with xp books but you won't get that many early
K
Can i even use it
Stuff that does nothing if value
Fortunately, there is no space limit in Item section if Depot
Nope, purely collection
^
yes works as written
Oh okay i thought it was useful
Lol
You know you could just
not use it
ah shucks. Does this skill's debuff start working at the 2nd or 3rd BB shelling?
Yes I have like 4 unused invitation letters
I have a problem with SP stage of the event
Sometimes i can beat it Sometimes cant
I dont understand at all
Post fleet
I could beat it for the past 5 days i didn't change anything on my fleet
Today somehow my vanguard is dying quickly
Hello. Who should I MLB next? Alsace, Kron, Mogador, Shinano or hold off? I can buy 2 more bulins. I got a lot of Alsace dupes so she only needs 2 bulins rn
Finish Alsace
Alsace>Shinano imo
Never leave anything at 1 or 2LB
Ok one sec
People told me not to invest bulins into Shinano/NJ because of possible dupes from standard construnction though. So I refrained from using them
I see, thanks
Eh sure but that might take forever to get 4 dupes
1 day 1 cube so it take 400 day to reach the pity
After Alsace I´d say Kron for that BB cross fleet buff
Thats one of the stupidest things I've heard please don't follow that.
Well non UR events make it quite a bit faster
2nd is my boss fleet which its vanguard is dying
after shooting 4 times aka 4 button presses the next reloads will be slower
preload or not
replace perseus
With whom?
First 4 full reload cycles are normal
Well for preload only 3 ig as the "first cycle" ends immediately? I never tested this tbh
perseus suck for bossing
All right thanks guys. I guess I'll do Alsace then Shinano. Then maybe wait for next UR
someone that deals damage
Can i replace her with Saratoga
Percy bad for dealing damage, you watch her two preload and then she does nothing
Sure, she is very good
Shinano is still more useful than kronk, it doesn't help that hakuryuu is right there and they are able to synergize together
guam and laffey are already there to serve as the boss tank and mob tank so raising kronk is even more pointless
Ok I'll try
Better still, her gearing very simple. Two Helldivers, a 2x500 lb+ fighter and two gold catapults and you are gucci
Does Harbin coinable ? For her CDC i suppose i can use 3 DE DDs right?
pr5 not coinable yet
and yes you can use 3 DE DDs
but for CDC farm , yes you can and do go ahead as the DDGs are among the best
3 chinese DD fleet would be really squish
doable in like w12
is it
You'd have to be over the level advantage cap probably
is mogador bad? I heard from someone in my server that she's pretty mid
which is pretty easy to achieve as w12 enemies are like lvl 103~
Do you split your Research prints on the ships? Both Ägir and Haku are 25+
There is a patch in CN and JP which fixes some of her kit. Now she survives better
EN does not have that yet, it'll probably be up in the upcoming maintenances
If they're like lvl 115 or smth, then sure they probably would survive
If I see Agir AND Haku I prioritize Haku because I heard Agir works decently at Dev25
Yeah my changchun alrd 120, but ning Hai and Ping Hai still 100. dont have another option
If you mean the prints that can be used to exchange for any ship print I have never used those

No gyat sen yet? That'll suffice if backline does their damage
Wait should I? I figured since I wasn't in a rush I can just farm passively for Tenrai while raising Haku and Agir
can i confirm that as a new player i should be prioritising the rainbow gun over mogdor from the event
No
Most PR/DR ships are suboptimal at pre-dev30 to the point you probably have better options
Unless it's someone whose key ability is available at lower devs like Ply's debuff and Agir
Sadly no
try get mog too but yeah gun first is fine
always get event gear
And do try to get Mogador from doing the missions that give you the currency to get at least one copy of her
including the torp ?
cus i can only clear up to b3 rn, c1 is too big a jump
How is haku fate sim thingy
is fine, just equip your frontline and backline accordingly. 12-1 very easy to farm at without a dedicated healer
good
Yes, always get event gears when you can. Torp quite middling though
Why do you answer me asking another person?
How are the two new URs btw
on a frontline of z23 helena portland does the main gun js go to z23?
yes
Mb
I thought you were asking in general
is fine, nimi FP quite alright for a DD. Helena can as well, though I would put it on the DD
CA and CL efficiencies for the secondary DD gun slot kinda bad
Is bearn meta good
Alsace great, how great? stay tuned for tests later this week
Mogador is hard to tell right now, but she is good.
I got her from b3 randomly while farming so
Nice
So is Alsace like a mob bb
mob/boss can do well in both
Is the french fleet bonus just nice to have or more of requirement?

