#gameplay-help
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No
You forgot n
don't retire N, use for enhance instead
ahh yea
Mogador is a fp dd, am i right?
ive been told that you should prioritise mlb ships that are already partially lb'ed. but ive also been told that i should do shinano (0lb) instead of shima (lb2). im slightly conflicted.
do the former
Primarily, yes
so shinano? is it cuz a built shinano does a lot more than shima?
yes shinano is far more important than shimakaze
is there any use if i have like 4 copies of shinano?
should i keep only one and limit beak fully shinano, or is it better to keep another copy of her?
if neither, then i'd say pick alsace
mlb 1 copy, never keep dupes
wait the tactical class 's books refers to how much they level up?
ok, thanks so to be sure i'll remain with only one shinano, right?
yes
thanks
yes, shinano, she will do far more than shima ever will and is relevant in the top CV comps
right. so the difference in performance is enough for partially lb'ed to not matter
What would be the best aux gear for Mogador?
toolbox x2 at the very minimum
otherwise toolbox + gold HP aux
Pure survivability huh. Makes sense. 
i mean that's the default case for all frontline ships tho
How do we get tech point?
/fleettech
Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:
- Collecting the ship (~20%)
- Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
- Achieving level 120 (~35%)
-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD
Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.
For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki
Mogadore vs lafey 2?
both
laffey is tankier, more AA and a better all rounder
mogador has more damage and frailer
consider her shima with guns
Which unique aug should i make first for the girls ( except for Hood )
I already got hood one so Sara? I was about to make one for laffey 
saratoga > starters > I-19
even the starters are still low priority since you'll find better ship than them that don't require unique augs
Btw what ship usually go along with chapayev
no ship in particular
Hmm she belong to mobs right
geting the fraction ships, max break them
chap is more mob oriented ye
I might have fuk up by choosing saint Louis before roon lol I though the sexy skin is hers apparently there's another ship with st Louis name too


yeah... st.louis and saint louis
you can mix them up a few times
20.more hours before full unlock tho, should 8 wait first or change now
And uhh are Seatle and Georgia worth using
What about for fleetech 
Does Z46's augment increase her AP damage armor modifiers or is it just flat bonus dmg?
fleet tech is tied to all ships iirc
so if you max lb one ship from a faction, the pts increases
there are easier to get US ships that you can limit break more easily
Can you give me some names
:/
the only reason US fleet tech is even an issue is for anchorage
check fleet tech thing on wiki
does not affect the armour mods themselves
it's a damage mod
Yeah but most of them are like event ships? I would love use ships that would benefit in the long run too
what should i do for these two?
ok thanks
is it fine to stop at 30k event pts I'm so lazy now
do you even NEED us fleet tech tho
Anchorage 
georgia and seattle are not particularly useful themselves anyways
and how far away are you
when finished with I, submit I to begin to II, they don't accumulate at the same time
depends how much u care about 10 gold plates
Not even close right
about 3/4
just play the game more 
US ships come by very easily
or limit break what you already have
Don't tell me that i need to mlb the commons 
no you don't
If u can do SP stage and daily missions there is still another 20-25k u can get from that
mlb the elites and the rares
last resort if you dont have anyone else
yeah I'll still do those daily but I'm just way too lazy to farm d3 over and over
Not so many options though?
is this with build missions 
are there any Rare/Elite vanguard ships that boost full BB main fleets? like a reload boost preferably?
no
helena debuffs enemies instead
same with aurora
Sure. Try and get 55k at least for the gold plates. So if u are missing some tokens by the end just farm d maps for that. Also I suppose u can try and fit everything u want in that 55k including the vouchers for mog dupe unless u have too much spec core to care about that
no but there are debuffers
there are a lack of BB buffers
I can probably get to 55k by the end of the event
Well that would help me reach 700 fleet tech but there is 150 more to come 
you're better off getting tech points from mlb-ing stuff than getting seattle or georgia
Yeah maybe
not maybe
it's considerably cheaper and less effort
Do hornet and yorktown as well
They give good tech at 120 eventually and elite manjuu gear from collection
remember that to even get those 2 ships, you need to grind with US ships to begin with
Will it affect the progress of a ship if I ll make limit break before level 70 ? I want to open space in my dock
How much exp book for lvl 1 ship to reach lvl 70 though
no
Tnx
it depends on rarity Fae
in general how rare/valuable are the augment xp rocks?
97? Isnt that a lil bit too cheap
not rare unless ure planning to build every single unique augment

go to your dock find a Bulin of each rarity, and put books into them, you'll find out 
Yeah level 70 isnt that hard to achieve tbh. The later levels add up. Level 70 is not even 10% of the total xp needed for level 120

What should I be getting from resupply ? Or should i just save my tokens?
Everything on first row
Resupply? 
Sr gear blanks only if needed
Yes resupply , is there a guide on this resupply shop?
UR designs, T3 ordnance and T2 ordnance is highest prio imo
Ah I see I should just spend my tokens for the month right? Any point to storing them?
There isnt a guide but get all plates and ur/sr materials and loggers
You lose them at the end of the month anyway
it's more valuable to spend them than it is to save them
Why is there no guide for this anyway 
Oh I didn't realize that hah..
Tokens turn into vouchers though...
im pretty sure there was
Sure, but do you rly need more vouchers
there was before it got deleted because it was bad or something
no one has put up an updated version
I may not, but others could
once you get the coords and siren loggers it's just QoL mostly imho
because the priority always pretty clear, UR bp, plates, coordinates
well not bad, but outdated
If it's clear even easier to make a guide for it 
Ah okay
and sam got more shit more important to do + busy
you can go ask for sam to make one
Which one would be good for a level 3 acc
its either sam or cheeky
a level 3 account 
Amagi probably but I think there is more info in the pins
idk man looks updated and good
thats voucher shop tho, not port shop
oh ig no meta thingies
That is the wrong shop tho
there was never a port shop guide
did someone put updated version
cleo was talking about a guide that already exists that got removed
Meh I don't like getting Amagi from that
Quick question, who should i invite using the letter thing?
see the pins
personally i'd suggest tosa assuming none of the other ships
Amagi is just weaksauce in my experience and Nelson or Hood are so easy to get...
i don't remember adding any guide for opsi shop
No I think the one you just posted was the one I was thinking of
yes i know
I think I got it mixed
i know that too
ouh right sam have those in site, just refer to that
Ok thank u
Too late took amagi from faerlin advice
i mean i like amagi more personally too
but tosa has the advantage of being run off flag
so you can keep hood in while you run tosa
Tbh I would just wait
Lvl 3 acc not gonna do anything with any of those ships anyway
^
how does he even have a lvl3 acc
my thoughts exactly
I got prinz heinrich for tech points


U can get all those ships later anyway. None of em do much for a beginner tbh. Amagi is more limited in that she competes with BB medal rotation.
shouldve read the pins
which ship would be best for me from invitation ? i have alsace too but at zero lb
tosa or amagi
but amagi is for flagship slot right
should i eventually be trying to slot alsace as flagship or does she just work as a backline ?
so really either is fine
Alsace can work as either
i'd lean to tosa on account of more versatility like alsace
so eventual backline wld be alsace unicorn and someone i take from this event (?)
then wld they end up being my flagship
id lean to hein
I'd personally get Tosa or one of the KMS for tech for FdG ig
Like idk how much benefit Tosa rly brings
At this point newbies get access to a lot of really good ships quite early
i mean i slept on tosa too
lewd
i'd go as far as to say it's a discount owari
idk what that means icl …
but if i take tosa then i’ll end up running alsace as flag ?
Probably? But neither rly need flag
both can be run in flag or off flag
alsace isnt replacing any1 till lb1 and then it depends if u still run penny
no point planning in advance a transitional fleet
also too much restrucure isnt good ure better off lvling so u can farm event rather than restarting for marginal upgrades
the other option is to just save
right cus i can’t rrly drop unicorn right
yeah
yes unicorn is a staple for one fleet and then later for mob fleet, she only goes out when ure grinding xp and dont need heals
how ab my frontline, shld i be prepping to swap anyone or will the 3 of them run for a decent time
also hypothetically if i do get tosa, what’s a good way to level her up before adding her to my main story pushing fleet
they will run a decent time but if ure planning to push past d2 its not enough since 2 out of 3 are 0 torps ships and ull need trp stats to pass d2 requirements
the 3 are being raised because
port and starter are needed for the rookie missions
helena remains important to end game
hmm who should I flag in the fleet 2p
outside of event its fine since starterfleet can onefleet to w9
but during event its tougher since its not so good to push past d1 due to reqs
Sushi
my ships r lowkey still getting outscaled at around b3
realistically i’m js looking for the ship and the rainbow gun
seeing as they lack limit breaks all over and no idea if ure using good poverty gear its very much normal
^
the biggest issue is using level 125 ships
which is wasting experience
Ahm, don't mind D3 there just asking
do you not have anything better than warspite....
any of the METAs worth raising?
lvling low lvl ships is done through books since going to lower maps to lvl them is very inefficient
that is also why 2 may restrucutre = bad its coz u dont have the disposable book income to keep raising new ships
Some are, yes, depending on whether you're looking for the things they offer
(Also a lot of them give good tech)
Like half of them have good fleet tech too

Damn, I sniped Thorin, never thought I'd see the day 
nelson says hi
I'm on phone, doesn't count
slap nelson in fleet 1, use her as flag, yeet warspite out completely
musashi to flag on fleet 2
Was half expecting you to use mod powers to delete the message 
pog just found about the new wishing well
chose shinano and I-168 ... gonna be expensive
Should've read advice first, choosing URs in ww is highly discouraged
sup moggies
or will there be a shinano rerun soon?
shinano is permanent
she will never be rerun
No Shinano is perma
Shinano will only be in perm
oh i forgor the new change
You just get her after spending 400 cubes anyway
it's not new, Shinano already reran and archived
That's why selecting on ww is kinda pointless
best way to get her will be waiting for a non UR event and pulling on that. since it will count for the perma pity.
the only thing that's actually new is the pity
is there a decent way to farm for them
main income is from lecture hall by using lv100+ ships, thats why rushing is the recommended strat
And the oilcap 9+
there is 200 xp books from this event in the cruise "minigame" if u need books quickly for sth
~~Oh dammit, another source of 200. My cap
~~
just use them, I've been spending them fine on trash ships lately 
just to cfm, tallinn can be farmed from WA right
Meta is also great, 100 right away 
anyways
what's the gimmick for hirM?
or rather, i know the gimmick, but do i need to go outta my way to adjust things
or can i just unga bunga
medium armor 
i dont think she has any gimmick
The latter
Ur best
assuming both ur?
Idr her stop timings so either bring freeze or bb for brain off mode
I'd say it depends a bit on how well you can keep your gauge protected
BB it is then
if the goal is 2 shot it wont matter. if one shot probably depends on +13 gear.
AvP is actually really good in this fight so if u lack implacable u could still try carriers
Pre sure 3 airstrike with some revealed is not a kill assuming no Helena or something (3 airstrike all hidden overkills massively without Helena, though)
But 4 salvo BB should pull it off without any caveats
wait can someone explain how the fking cruise event works cus i don’t get it and i’m not rrly interested in the cruise story either …
Hiryuu meta was pretty unremarkable, just go all damage with biszwei or implacable
just tap the icons. there is not much to it. click and skip everything
Well she is unremarkable now, no doubt 
meh
only could get it down to 40 bars
kill it with torps
I’m not that old ye gramps, I only ever did her dossier
Can shipgirl lose her affinity by anything else beside losing a fight?
sinking without losing the fight
They dont lose aff by losing fight only when entering and dying
so i got the invite who do i pick?
Uh morale*
Aff is only lost when grinding with low morale
no morale
thanks
HirM is comfortable 2 shot
no way to 1 shot for me unless i throw all my rainburins into unzen 
where i ckech the pins what ab it
only sortie on 0 morale in morale-consuming content reduces affinity
sinking only hastens the process because you get closer to 0 morale faster
pin gives you a quick outline of what the invitation ships do
after which, you decide yourself depending on your needs
how many cubes is possible to get doing dailies and weeklies during the ur banner? (im too dumdum to do the math)
69
we aren't your coin flipper
tf is doro doing here go back to the ark

Remind me who your BB fleet is
Soyuz/FDG/... who?
no
vanny
Triple guns with radar; can everyone make four salvos or no?

no reload tech
Right
168 guaranteed per month so 3/4 of that, well 2/4 now
no off-topic gifs in this channel please.
ic ty
round it off to 100 if you play regularly
there is 97 cubes left during event
16 days x 4
2 weeks x 12
monthly login = 9
round it off to more than 100
assuming u claimed this week already
there's also new cruise pass, and RNG
hi giys
who are you
uh........
does anyone know if drake or shima has higher dps against med?
i only got 98 pulls rip me
cooperskyler
Better question, who are you, given that you change your name, colour, and pfp like everyday 
my alpha instincts tell me drake
drake should be better on auto, do not quote me
assuming no drake gun tho? 
the colour change wasnt me
Drake with what gun
mystery of the century
Laffey is in love with me should I marry her?
cheshire gun
follow up question is mogador that bad cause of her skill in general content?
Ill take shima
no
well wait for her patch anyways
and your 3 limit breaks
i may not guarantee an alsace but i can get mogador then ig 
You can guarantee an Alsace by doing PR6 research
Flandre op confirmed
We have alsace at home:
lol wut???
Flandre is an Alsace class
flandre in pr6 is alsace's sister
kick her out
Don’t be mean to my wife
i dont like lolis so no thanks
irrelevant to this channel
anyways with shima i got hirM to 25% so 
Believe in torp memes
ply died tho
control run with agir got her to 30% tho...
You were asking between Drake and Shima in centre but uh
Who was centre before?
Ah
Next month i’ll be able to craft my first UR gear probably, i’m thinking wyvern/nj gun, which one should have prio?
wyvern
what dev is your ply
We dont know what plans mk7 will use
Unless they make Mk7 very cheap probably Wyvern
In before ordnance AND gun plans
Wyvern in itself is not cheap
Spearfish instead 
There's someone else in here who farmed a Zara gun? 
i swear i had like 2 of these
now i can't find any 
ender is a boomer
could alwyas make them in GL 
yeah i did farm zara gun
Zara gun is not in Lab...
zara gun is rubbish though
italian gun
mistakes were made 
family heirloom right there 
oh yeah i've been wondering is using like 2 NJs a good idea? like 1 in each fleet
using dupes is never a good idea
oh lol owkie
oh well the mystery of the vanishing zara gun will remain unsolved
good ending 
uhm
How do one even lose a weapon 
did you check in depot with equipped filter on
yeah
i went thru all the CAs anyways
...
Accidents happen
Shima strong 
might be a visual bug
if u checked again after restarting the game then either u didn't see it or it poofed 
it might have poofed a long time ago without me realising
top 10 mysteries of ALO
what i did find was a +10 littorio gun
mlb soyuz or alsace first? i have 4 bulins
did u check ur hai chi class
honestly... i don't think it makes a difference....
whos got more stars
so just do whichever i like more, word
no cap
i don't think i have any of the hai chis
On god
That is unironically how I choose to raise stuff in this game
my laifu for waifu
part of leveling all the ships you like first is leveling shitters becomes even more painful 
should I buy TBM Avenger for Independence?
not really
no
then what for torpedo bomber?
wyverns
that's all I can afford
baraccudas are fine until you get better
Or, in absence of that, just the best you have
The issue with the TBM is the core data cost
^
i think i am about to get the new ur, but i amalready at 189 pity? should i just top it up?
if you got any VIT-2s out of PR5 they're fine too
otherwise just wait for Wyvern/Spearfish
you can go for 1 event build per day until 200 spending 11 more cubes up to you
btw, the 550 triple had use right?
but just doing 1 light/day is saving those 11 cubes, and just wait for bulin
i mean event
which is exactly what I said
your choice is doing 11 more event build over the next 11 days or saving those 11 cubes going back to light
Iirc for anchorage to proc skills?
yeah that's what i heard
Anyone who wants fast torps for skill proc
Anch, Shimanto, Liverpool off the top of my head
Also manual Agir for weird timing reqs 
It’s like what, 5ish seconds faster than quadmag
Less than that
Shimanto is usually triple mags because you don't want the torps to be throwaway
More around 3s, maybe 4
Who should I get from the summer invitation?
True esp when you factor in rld
Anchorage is just whatever as long as she shoots
see the pins for a detailed guide
How bad is Mogador?
Same tbh
But admittedly only bc PvP
Thanks
Moggies good
not bad
Does META ship count towards pr grind?
no, they are part of meta faction
She WILL be fine once EN drops her damn patch 
META ships don't count for the original ship's faction
(In saying that, she has shown no problems being levelled in D3, so no reason why you can't)
btw, is brest similar to agir in that she can be used pre 30
yeh
moggers
if just for tanking pretty much fine by 25
25 is her last gain of defensive stat so yep
unless you count tech HP/EVA
Who would u grab with the free sr voucher
see the pins for a detailed guide
Any guide for the extra in current event?
SP or EX
EX i supposed. The one without daily limit
not particularly hard if not challenge mode, just throw your strongest ships at it
#media-content should have you covered
So I decide to built ssss collab ship but
I don't know if they good for boss or mob
Anyone know what they good for?
which one?
There are like seven of them, gotta be more specific
Actually, we got two more from the rerun, so nine or something 
probably good for mob.. i usually field rikka/yume/chise alongside uni+brest+aquila for opsi mobbing / pvp / for fun fights
do you guys realy thing that portland-kai is a better tank than brennus?
yes
It's better if you actually specified instead of having us guess
why?
cheaper for more or less the same job
and you simply cannot run away from raising portland
Brennus is better but she is not that much better to be worth the more expensive cost than portland
unless you want to forsake the juicy rookie mission rewards
so even considering the skills it's a waste to build brennus?
there is an argument to be made that the frailer brennus can dish out more damage and thus takes less damage over all
but the issue is
GOLD BULINS
id rather put the bulins into hood or enty
they are such a limited commodity early on
i had both of them done before i did brennus
and the real nail in the coffin
is that portland works well even with shitty gear
brennus doesn't work nearly as well
and contrary to what her skill implies portland does not need indy lol
people tend to forget that portland's retrofit gifts it an extraordinary amount of evasion lol
EX boss heavy?
yes
well, no turning back already have brennus at lvl110, guess i'll just take the bullit on this one
okag
so it allows it to forsake the gold evasion gear that brennus and other CA need (at least temporarily)
Well...
Vanguard part
I need "decent" 1 girl from SSSS so I can slap her in fleet in OpSi
rikka then
rikka if you have her gear
her gears are these btw
u are in massive need for vanguard ships
comparing port and brennus isn't the way for u since u have to use both of them
Luckily I have all of them
Thanks
wish i joined earlier for a second goldburn
her AA can be swapped out for FUMO though for fights needing more firepower
i guess that's true
You already have her at 110 anyway
Just use her
She isn't bad; the problem is fundamentally just the most effective allocation of limited resources
nothing that cant be fixed by time and losing a few fights in harder content amirite
eh, not sure about vitter but there was something about giving her q152 and moving tracto max into one of the aux slots
if it doesn't affect relevant portions of her barrage I guess dropping vitter is okay?
I thoroughly applaud your commitment to your waifus 
Everyone says gold bulins are hard early game. I need purples 😂
trust me when i say purples are dime a plenty
i mean, that's prob cost you haven't started using SRs yet
Trust me, just a little bit of incaution and that Bulin surplus can disappear in the blink of an eye... 
each sr is 4 bulins
thats 2.75 mlbs you have there
Thats not even enough for 3 ships so yea
Definitely
half of those are retros

he will find out eventually
unless he really skips using SRs
I’m working on it 😂
Reject SRs
Use URs instead 
i know it's in the pins but does anyone have any recs for the invitation? i think my next goal is to build a second fleet. tyyy
i took tosa since her skin is coming up and i lack gold bulins
Is that...
Akashi special paw mission
You have got some serious retrofitting to do.
can u tell the game to drop some t3s cuz that's my bottle neck 😭😭😭
Since I’ve been regularly doing research academy I’m swimming in them. Are you keeping up with that?
You've been getting T3 retro prints from research? 
I would pick one of the germans for tech, they are also not available from perm sources
TBH i was in the same situation as u at the start
never had issues with SR bulins until i had to gather tech points 
Which ur should I mbl next?
I’m dreaming of the day I can get anchorage I want that ship so bad 😭
What auxillary would Mogador want? Her kit doesn't want her to be burned, so should I use the fire extinguisher aux
Laffey II, best DD in the game
Soyuz or alsace
2x toolkit
time to invest these delicious bulins then 
Oh ok, thanks
Yeah I’ve got a bunch of rare eagle ships and dupes it’s getting them all to level 70 😂
so like prince hein? i'm also cooking roon rn 😈
Graf 😉
Any idea how I get the idle screen time to display my local timezone? I'm failing to find an option for that.
Soyuz or Alsace
you don't, it's only for server time
😦 Darn. Ah well, thanks.
Solution: move to a place on server time
hein or graf
hein is usefull but u alr got sanfran for 2nd tank
graf is ok ig even tho u got sara alr
so both would potentially only be used when u start 2nd fleet
does anyone have an updated safe to scrap list?
It's training to convert between game time and your time. Also keeps you in shape mentally. It's perfect
should be in /equip idk when it was last updated
thank you
The safe to scrap in /equip is not too outdated
Wait a minute
shit doesn't stack fuck you mean x2 tool kit
Stats stack always
Hp stacks. Just not the heal
Then why wouldn't I run a more offensive option on Mogador? Or is that not what she is meant for?
mogador wants to live
so, i bought illustrious in the medal shop instead of using the voucher, what planes should i get her i plan on using her as a support ship
She's flimsy. You want her to survive
hi how do i know if i get baguette gun drop from D2 of the event and how do I even craft the gun itself using the drops i get? quite confused, thanks
wht is this one for?
I see, is she worth investing into? Or should I just go with laffey II
you can see if u dropped prints on rewards screen and you craft it in depot if you got enough prints
but its not worth farming for, better go d3 for more pts
U have any main fleet UR? That's not mlb
i can't seem to find the gun itself in the depot section and craft part. idk if i'm just blind or what. i sorted it out to super rare>DD main gun>vichya/iris faction but cant find it
The isn’t Laffey 2 the best DD in the game
ohhh that makes sense
thanks! and how big of a difference does D2 and D3 have in pts
will it expire?
30 iirc
ok thx
flapjacks and ryusei
At least until we can test her after her fix has been implemented, I'd hold off on going nihilistic offensive auxes on her
Uh
Kearsage (wip)
Bismark zwei (I don't like German ships)
Alsace (I have enough copies to MLB her)
There's I also have ulrich but again, I don't like German ships
Upgrade zwei. She's very strong and kearsarge is DR. Doesn't use bullins
do collab reruns also get free build tickets if they happen or do they count as new events cuz of added content?
youre asking which ones are worth investing into, then proceed to ignore one of the best bbs in the game because you dont like the faction 
No tickets
If you don't like using them then it's your choice , go upgrade Laffey II
For MLB URs I have
Hakuryuu (my best one)
Shinano
Musashi
New jersey (I have 2 MLB of her and idk why)
Wotspite (just collecting dust)
Vanguard
Implacable (not in use)
Yorktown II (not in use)
To add to what Thorin said, at least so far, no collab has been a light rerun, while build tickets so far have only ever been given for light reruns
also both/all collab reruns had added content right?
Yep
Well your non mlb UR are zwei and laffey2. If you don't wanna mlb zwei cuz udl her. Between mog and laffey2. I'll choose laffey2
!idolmaster rerun and watch the world burn
Ignore drake and Guam, I'm out of coins
Well imo saying Bisko 2 is very strong is kind of an understatement, she's kinda crazy for bossing...so yeah if you want meta advice MLB Zwei
Oh I meant sink more into laffey as in check her weapons and stuff*
if you have guam that close, you should just get more coins and finish guam
Ok
Rate my hakuryuu
would swap augment, but otherwise fine
My rating depends on Shinano and Impla
And the enemy ofc
And tbh if I had all the URs that need bulin idk if amogador wouldn't take lowest prio
eh, UR can reach lv120 without mlb?
yes but you want MLB anyway
you're just not blocked from leveling in case your UR bulins are still a month or two away
Can Bismarck Zwei use Bismarck's costumes?
yes
usually what do you do once a common ship has been fully limit broken for the collection bonus?
do you use her as fodder or do you release her?
i think bringing a common ship to level 120 is a whale thing to do so i can skip that and i can just limit break the ship right?
You can use her for enhancing other ships
yep, no point using resources to level commons to level 120 right?(seems really whale thing)
you dont need to spend any money to get any ship to lvl 120
it just takes time
A couple give good tech
Fleet tech purposes.
yep, i know but isn't that really high costly in game resources?
its not
Time. It takes time to level them up but not costly.
the thing is, there aren't many commons that give valuable fleet tech at 120
Who is the best ship in the early summer special invitation to pick from for a new player?
as a new player, it is probably better to save it first
can i keep it for a long time?
and then choose what you need based on your dock
yeah it has no expiry
you can keep it forever
Nevada and oklo is probably the notable ones. They give 1 bb rld at lvl120
Mhm
Langley +1 CV RLD is the other I was thinking of
Oh and Ranger is +1 CV AVI
And kinda worth raising bc she is fun to use 👀
Also is it worth it to farm the stages of the event with this formation?
or should I rush the story?
maybe not nagato, since it's wasted exp
I... have Several objections about this fleet but I could see that clearing at most B
that could start C

but will at least need more LBs to finish it
I just started sorry if its realy bad
This is the only "good" stuff I currently own
Go read this real quick, because the only good ships there in that fleet are Unicorn and Laffey
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
Build portland, unicorn and Richelieu
Portland is a cheap tank
Unicorn is one of the best ships
Richelieu is just goofy
Also javelin cause I like javelin

skip javelin and focus on Laffey, Vampire META is already MLB'd
what does mlb mean?
max limit break
mlb = max limit break
Mobile legends bang bang
and is 1 formation for now good enough?
main thing is your resources will be limited for LB and leveling at this point, focus on ships that can actually help your progression
yes, you likely won't be able to properly gear a second fleet either
For now yes, but once you reach later levels you need 2 formations
is this good?
Later being chapter 10*
auto ?
yes
for what you have it's not bad
for actually doing METAs is still trash
yeah that is a massive upgrade to the last try
what I don't get is what is your goal for trying to push showdown damage, it doesn't really offer you anything
Some of us feel satisfaction at 100% kill rate 
when i play opsi it sometimes ask me if i wanna fight her so i just do
(i have 0 clue what this whole meta thing is anyway)
yes that system exists, but it's not something you should be trying to maximize on now
Can I keep playing vampire meta or should I still try to get helena?
youre not going to be able to push higher damage amounts on showdown until you have better ships/gear anyway
Get Helena
Vampire META is dogshit but she'll have to stay there until Helena is raised enough to properly replace her
you should get Helena in the longer term, I just recommend keeping Vampire now because her level and MLB can help carry your fleet for now
Thanks so much guys for the help!
Is there also some kind of Pull guide for who to get and skip?
i think that is a notification
it is enabled automatically so u have to disable it manually in the auto search
also make sure to ask for help after doing ur try because if it doesn't die within 24h it is lost
pull for UR events
most others you can skip
don't pull on permanent heavy/special
when no event pull 1 light/day
Would these 2 fleets be good for farming b3 for points or should I be using lb0 ships for the slightly reduced oil cost
you'll have more freedom to pick banners when you've played for longer and have spare cubes, but the focus will likely be easier to make sure you get all the new URs first
why not do D3?
if you doing cheap farm then you need lb0 if you don't then just do d3 full fleet
Also I saw in the guide that I should rush the story to chap 9? Should I still try to clear the event?
0LB on B1 costs 1/3 to 1/4 of those fleets if you want to push low cost
if you're not sure I recommend just going back to D3
anyway if u want low oil do 0 LB on B1
event first since u can't rush ch9 unless u pay for the beginner commander
try running C and see how far you get
you'll probably want to try to at least raise the fleet to be able to clear D1 for farming
if at any point you're stuck, pushing campaign first is fine until you have levels to go back
Are they Ship you get also worth it to raise?
which ship
There are I think 2? 1 meta and another ship
Would someone be able to recommend me fleet comps I’ve been playing super casually over the years so i dont know anything about gear or comps (I’ve just been making teams for each faction based off whatever t1-tex ships I have). I’m at 11-4 and can’t beat sp this event thanks!
not really
Oh my images didn’t send
if you have a bunch of pics to send, start a thread first
So should I take the resources?
which resources?
Team help
Gear, cats and t3 gearbooks. Ships I meant before were mogador and bearn meta
Are there any alternatives to illust and indom for w15 air supp fleet?
if you mean the event shop the priority is in the datamine
I'd take gun first
mogador should be fairly cheap since you get quite a number of vouchers for free even if you can't earn some of mission ones
langley, illustrious muse (core shop), lil illustrious
you should have enough fleet strength to bring the event ships to B3 at least though for vouchers, whichever ones you have pulled
Who am I putting the new event gun on?
laffey
also Implacable and Chen Hai retrofit, if you have them
Brennus any good
garden variety SR CA
And bearn meta?
looks like a decent SR CV if you bother raising METAs
CV*
Gacha still hasnt given me fleuret 
if that's the last ship you're missing from banner just build daily or cut your losses if not a lot of cube stock
Missing both fleuret and bearn
Well Bearn is drop/shop ship so
i built my opsi fleet with some advice i got last night, would anyone mind taking a look if i post it and my dock to double check if i should swap anything out?
ill start a new one, there are just some ships i need to lvl up a bit so just want another set of eyes on it before i commit a lot of coins and stuffs, i ll start a new thread
Any suggestions for my torp focused full preloading meme fleet for manual clearing.
i mean, your torp meme fleet is missing a strong torp buffer
and a strong torp nuker
the true torp meme fleets use unzen, jintsuu meta/noshiro muse, avrora
even assuming you have none of those, nubian is more gun oriented anyways
and her torps are pitiful to say the least
I have Avrora MLB level 100
realistically, at least have noshiro muse
I'd consider Ayanami a strong torp nuker, at least with aug
but there's no buffers yeh
By "manual clearing" I take it you just mean doing it quickly on manual, as opposed to this being for a boss (I hope, based on Percy/Uni)
In which case, you don't need a buffer, just take Unzen, Shima, Harbin and blow everything up with double preloads
SP event stage and also finishing up 12 it's been doing well so far but I'm wondering how I could make it even better
why bother memeing on SP, it's just a 1 run/day point sink
ch12 is up to you I guess
Overall the idea was to have more fun with preloads and have 2 healer so I can run anything I want in my vg and have a fleet that can help level any ship. Kind of realized I can make the comp whatever I want so I put fun speedy torp ships in and have had fun playing it on manual
Is shop gun actually mogador's BiS or?
yas queen
Any gun dds bis pretty much
Who is next Operation Siren Meta,or hadn't been announced?
Wichita
Word so the gun is a must buy
at the point where you're choosing to manual and have fun then whatever floats your boat I guess, it's just not what we traditionally call a torp meme and it's not really for your use case
As a general rule, always buy any equipment in the event shop bc you don't want to be stuck without it for two years, just in case it finds an unexpected use that was not appreciated during the event itself
Actually I suppose they'll add the metas tmr
Or wait is update schedule back to normal?
Nah
RodM goes on for a bit longer
Should be the maint that ends this event
yep
Good question
I also thought maint tomorrow, but based on no patch notes dropping, I don't think so...
Ah right Rodney doesn't end with the month anyway 
Update schedule is back to thursday
our normal maint is thurs
I know, but fsr I thought the weird sched was continuing one more cycle 
if we're back to thu the notes should be tomorrow or day after
Ah, I see
I only caught June 6th
Maintenance on the 80th anniversary of D-Day...
Ngl, I feel JintM's season being extended to end on Dec 7th last year was even more... noticeable as far as dates go 
people pay attention to time remaining 
They do when it is written in the patch notes
people do that? 
Yes, contrary to certain stereotypes about the EN playerbase, some of us are, in fact, able to read
So torn, I was thinking I’d grab GZ with my invitation since I’ve been short on iron blood main fleet (only 3 to work with, zeppy Bismarck and Weser) but I’m almost halfway done with FdG so that problem will be solved soon
you could always just hold onto it
Well there's still AvP, Odin, Rupper, and the 1st CDC for Agir that you'd still need backliners (and tech points) for so 
That is genuinely hilarious to know ngl
Also, seriously, read the CN/JP notes, even if you must MTL it tbh
Bc EN notes suck...
Guys I just pulled Shinano and NJ the same pull I have 3 URs I can fully go for for limit breaking, should I go for the new DD or NJ or shinano?
also please don't get baited into pulling on heavy or special
I already have Alsace fully limit broke and level 123
What do you mean?
I mean don't pull on heavy or special, the URs esepcially are basically just bait to get you to use cubes on them rather than save them for events
Is it worth trying for the wishing well once I have Alsace done?
not for new /mid game players no
just set it on light from the options in pins and do ur daily 1 light pull there
Tbh its only worth it if you want sub
I just used 20 cubes once since I already have everything for the event but imma start saving them for the next even since I got NJ and shinano
Or aurora maybe
I would consider even 20 cubes too much considering that you can and should just be getting them from pity without costing you any extra cubes
I screwed my wishing well up and set it to heavy at the start like an idiot
just ignore it then
When you say pity are you talking about 400 cubes to get one?
yes
BiS for Shitnano?
It don't count towards events though sadly
depends on content 
non UR events do
I tried to see if me pulling for the event and the UR event don't
and tell me, do you even have enough UR Bullins to max limit break either of them right now
has kazagumo been in an invitation before
yes, quite recently
heavily context dependent
are there any general use build?
Well I can get 2 easily but I have to wait for the shops to recent to get more prototype things so I can get a 3rd bulin
general use is pretty vague
if you don't know/don't care give all carriers Flapjack/Tenrai/Wyvern
anything you lack just look for the next grade down
exactly, you don't have enough to max limit break either of them so getting them ASAP is rather pointless
no use fussing over it too much since the deed is done but don't do it in future, it isn't a good idea
and when u do get 4 ur bulins u might have another UR in prio
Well honestly I just did a 10 pull once to just see if I was gonna get lucky enough to get one but someone was saying I should go for Shinano first
how many medals is a UR again
30?
30
30 yee
and 500 spec core
bleh let me just go scrap my perm pity 
i have +13 all the nerezza sheet suggested aux, enough for 1 fleet. should i +13 gold hp auxes next?
what about submarine snorkel, sgradar, oxy torp, pvp auxes?
NJ was 26 coins and 30 medals
just save your T4 plates and use as necessary
pvp auxes only if u #pvp cant reccommend here
also by +13 all aux for 1 fleet what does it mean ?
3 white shells,3 radars, 3 blackshells, 3 rudders, 6 steamcatas ?
Well honestly I have 3 different URs and I already and I don't think there's gonna be a UR event for a while correct?
+13 for 1 table, 3 white shell + 1 gold shell, 3 hsfcr, 1 new missile, 1 old missile, beaver, 6 washing machine, 3 black shell, 6 catapult, hedgehog
start saving for the 2nd table then
well hold 360 for the other table and then its ffa ig
free for all as in its up to you and ur needs
next new UR shouldn't be until September but that's not accounting for potential reruns and as you're finding out UR Bullins are very heavily time gated
i assume u did avi timing auxes aswell
i was thinking to do it for some of the niche stuff, like an sgradar for helena when using hsfcr, or UR oxytorp for those challenges or maybe some pvp auxes to make it easier.
the first hp aux i would do would be either goldburn or rpg interface
wouldn't recommend it for sg radar and oxytorps
oh i didnt do thsoe yet they are +10 only

Just got Mogadogador and haven't tried her yet, those who did how is she compared to her UR DDs?
not fixed in EN yet, but expect her to be a gun Shimakaze
oh also what about manjuu, the 8 second un-sink one, good to +13 or not worht?
we on en dont have her patch yet so she still explodes for us
So when I get enough bulins should I use them for Shinano or NJ or just save them
go for Shinano first, then when you get another 4 bullins revaluate your options
its fine, it kinda matters what ur prios are at this point
showdowns, ex scoring, pvp, campaign etc.
the general good to have auxes are done
saving is ofc another great option
i haven't finished w15 yet. i think showdowns and challenges would be next. manjuu should be good for showdown right?
Is it weird that I was also gonna ask if shinano or NJ have better skins?
its been used alot yes
that's subjective
thanks!
It’s not exactly a gph question but both do have relatively new l2d skins
You can find some YouTube clips, decide yourself
not the best display but mogsies survived a c4 enforcer fine in this
I just got both in one pull I just haven't looked but if I'm gonna limit break a UR I wanna also factor in the skins too so imma look at the skins
Then do so. Check the wiki or in game to see what skins belong to them
what equipment
Why are you pulling on the non-event banner?
Well I already got everything from the UR event so I just spent 20 cubes for one draw to see if I'd get lucky and I did
fight also dragged to last 10s because it was a 20s shield boss 
Did she get both patches?
so max adapts but also max level penalty
afaik only CN has them
JP
CN and JP both have them
oh so it's just us
The unloved middle child
what a bummer and I guess you can say KR and TW
wait do they even have the event yet
Tw no
to be fair EN is also the most demanding per unit revenue

Ngl, Idk how TW's schedule is because they usually look to be like a year behind us but then sometimes gets stuff we do
But I think KR is like a week behind the main three
to be fair, that's not dissimilar to the EN schedule when we were catching up
shouldn't take long until they'll be caught up
there's still the "aftermath" of catching up
for the longest time EN was behind on archives and other little things, and also the rush to catch up on releases exacted its toll on resources
should i do this?
not with that cube count
you also probably won't be using Brest within the next 3 months regardless
Does it sound reasonable for me to replace Shangri for her so I can farm exp points for FdG? I’m still on only one fleet.
if you are farming for fdg, limit break her and swap her in yes
depends where yr at in campaign, if youre at w9+ its fine to swap her in for exp
if youre still pushing i wouldn't make the swap
damn Bearm's fortification is 40FP/40AVI/20RLD
is graf zeppelin good enough to use
shes decent, easily replaced though
ship like saratoga is purple and is better after retro and augment
Very good CV?
Graf Zeppelin? decent, not very good
Does Ark royal retro good?
Is Peter Strasser better from an Iron Blood perspective?
Ark Royal is nice with boss comps if you don't have other slowing ships
If you're still one fleeting forget about PR for now
yes, shes your go-to slow support until you get august or implacable reruns
all the KMS carriers are 🚮 besides AvP who has a niche with slow/stop
peter is worse than graf
Well that Question is lacking, Sorry. I'm asking for list of Very good CV?
her worth is the same as graf: to get tech point and/or to farm research exp

if you want a good carrier that's not rainbow you can't go wrong with Enteprise, Saratoga or Independence
ark would like a word
oh well I have implacable
im talking about ark wdym
scroll down more and youll see i made a separate answer for the peter qn
Ark Royal is good in specific comps but not too much use outside of OS
LUCKY E
iirc shangri la with augment is also pretty strong pick
alright need help to buil FLEET 3(FOR UNKNOWN REASONS)
good but more or less just Enteprise replacement with extra steps

shes competitive with enty? shes that strong with aug? 
oh well, what mission does need fleet 3
that's what I heard, I never use her so I have no idea of the details
also WHERE'S MY UR ENTY
opsi the only place you need more than 2 fleet

if you're here just to shout nonsense #al-general is that way
here in en we usually rec one mob fleet, 2 boss fleets and one flex/boss fleet
yep
This. My only question was if she’s (Graf) is strong enough to replace Shangri for mobbing while I move through W9+. My generic boss fleet is leveling now, but doesn’t have room for this.
only OS uses more than 2 fleets and it's not compulsory
No
Graf Zeppelin is just worse than Shangri-La
most things work until w12, imho itll be better if you just push to w12 first and then start research there
in most contents, you change fleets frequently tho, map is a bigger factor than other stuffs like individual ship performance when it comes to fleet building
oh well back to the topic, what corruption(?) (idk the term in opsi) level for consistent Gold tier mats in gear lab?
drops are random, we just recommend burning AP on C5 for chance with cat dives after you're done clearing up special zones
alive sometimes 
my sensei still alive and kicking
Can a level capped ship still “earn” exp for research?
Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?
- Exp earned in PvE combat? Yes.
- Event Combat? Yes. Operation Siren? Yes.
- Ships level capped for any reason? Yes, if it otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
- PvP/Exercises? No. Dorm? No. Exp packs? No. Commissions? No.
So what are you at other times? 
currently farming C6 in the first part of the map (Do playing the story will unlock the rest of the map). The story I mean the main story not the Opsi story cause I already level 5 in opsi yet still no other parts if the map
tap on missions and follow instructions 
Okay. That makes this process easier then. Gonna shelve the exp grind. Go for 12 and keep using the dorm for now to level. Having to use main fleet KMS for the grind stinks.
you should just finish opsi story, a lot of stuff is locked behind it in opsi
wage slave
2-2 mission
then follow that mission marker and do that map to progress
how long do you have to idle an account to qualify for mobilization as new/returnee
is it a good idea to grind a stage that's not too tricky for xp
outside of unlocking hard mode
generally if you're stuck it's going back to the highest you can comfortably grind
can't say more without context
should be like 30 days
how to check your friendlist ingame?
click on that little box and then friends
yea
New UI still just as intuitive as the old one 
should i be using bulins on mog
depends what else u got
no one
I didn't realize this was a 3 week event.
save them for alsace
i already mlb alsace
I got all the ships except Brennen....... Not sure I'm pulling for her.
should i save for future ship
i would still wait on mog tbf
i would save
is she not that good?
No she's just still ultra jank
i cant say since our mogs explode
but even if she doesnt she looks like pocket hinden
mogs explode?
Read pins
are tosa or chapayev worth getting from this invitational?
check pins
.
chapyev it is i guess
Can I replace my Warspite with her?? still searching for blueprint for her
not at that dev level
shes lb1 so no
You can replace Washington with alot of other stuff.tho
Ben a retrofit Nelson does better 
washi?
What is bro typing
smth about Ben
On warspite
Now the question is was ben supposed to be even or bet 
Still mostly applies 
Nelson kai is good 
Especially that warspite is not retroed
what do i do with all of these do i just use them on random 4*s
use em on not randoms but ones u plan to lvl like for tech
is mogador skin bugged?
why is she keep using the same animation over and over?
Either use them on something or scrap them
Happened to not only her skin so I assume so




