gameplay-help

[fresh tangle]

If I already have hood and enty should I get Illustrious or San Diego? Just need a ship to 110 and that’ll either be today or tomorrow

[low juniper]

Where do you get that

[whole crypt]

nowadays I'd probably take Illustrious over Sandy for rookie

[native glacier]

which gaem best?

[fresh tangle]

So does that mean I can pick waifu over substance? 😂

[undone plover]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Collections
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Eagle_Union_Elite_Damage_Control

[sharp token]

shooting game for fast currency

[whole crypt]

Illustrious with aug is pretty good now and takes less investment than San Diego

ultimately for ch15 you'd want both anyway

[fresh tangle]

So really you’ll end up with both big Illus is the better earlier investment

[opaque yacht]

is there a gear guide for alsace?

[whole crypt]

just use what you'd use for any other BB in the same situation

[eternal basalt]

The one you don't show. Shooting controls are Terrible.

[opaque yacht]

which bb is most similar to her?

[whole crypt]

earlier is neither, but Illustrious with aug is pretty good for 12 and 13, in 15 itself she's mostly for support fleet

[low juniper]

Also I'll ask again but what are some good guns for Alsace in a mobbing fleet?

[whole crypt]

I'll just say if you don't know what to use, use Mk6

[low juniper]

I'm using this

Don't mind the fact that there's no levels, I'll get to that in a bit

[native trail]

There's a second laffey??

[eternal basalt]

Hazemayer > STAAG

[opaque yacht]

so like warspite?

[low juniper]

First off, that's what I'm using, second, I thought it was the other way around?

[wind hazel]

he meant, if you got staag, replace the haze with it

[opaque yacht]

in the tier lists the staag is higher than hazemayer

[eternal basalt]

No turn the haze to STAAG

[boreal wagon]

they meant it as a turn A into B not A over B

[low juniper]

Lemme check if I have enough materials

[whole crypt]

like everyone else

[wind hazel]

nah save your materials

soon you'll be like this

[opaque yacht]

wdym my richy has a twin 406

[whole crypt]

Richelieu is fine with Mk6 too

in fact you also squuze more damage out of her preload using Mk6 over a twins

[low juniper]

I mean Constellation and Soyuz have a +10 staag but I didn't wanna take it off of either of them

[wind hazel]

if it's just mobbing you won't see much difference

or rob constellation's staag if you wanna give the best for your UR

[low juniper]

Hm
So then should I just give the haze to Constellation in the meantime?

[wind hazel]

sure

[low juniper]

And is Alsace's 2nd gun fine

[wind hazel]

should be fine unless you're bringing her to w14 or something

[opaque yacht]

wait were we supposed to get a anniversary mail?

[haughty dust]

do we know how any of the event ships rank? Especially the two new UR ships.

[wind hazel]

global no. except the maintenance compensation

[low juniper]

That's what I wanna know

[opaque yacht]

ohh I se

[soft raft]

From the ECTL server
(Mog's only TN because she's janky as shit right now, at best people have said she's prob gonna be T0)

[haughty dust]

yeah, I just got both of the new UR ships recently. However, I haven’t gotten any of the other ones yet. Mainly due to my oil constantly being low.

[whole crypt]

what is NorCal now, TN?

[haughty dust]

TN?

[crimson glacier]

tier nope

[wind hazel]

t5

[whole crypt]

basically untiered shit

[wind hazel]

her aug moved her one spot i guess lol

[soft raft]

TN is the tier for bottom of the barrel dogshit
In terms of best to worst, the ranking goes TEX, T1, T2, T3, T4, T5, TN

[haughty dust]

then which rank is Alsace? I don’t actually know how to read the tears that you guys made up.

[eternal basalt]

In August

[opaque yacht]

wait mog sucks?

[haughty dust]

You sent this before I could finish writing my last comment

[low juniper]

Is it worth using these materials on the 406mm or are they best saved for other guns

[soft raft]

(Mog's only TN because she's janky as shit right now, at best people have said she's prob gonna be T0)

[boreal wagon]

mog has issues on EN still but is mostly fine on JP and CN (which will come to EN sooner or later)

[wind hazel]

save

[soft raft]

the latter

[opaque yacht]

oh ok

[boreal wagon]

on another note does ECTL realize they never ranked vamp meta (not that shell be above TN but yes)

[whole crypt]

Vampire META is technically worse than Vampire

[boreal wagon]

yeah its just odd to me that they have ranked everyone released around the same time but not her especially since it should just be as easy as TN

[whole crypt]

I haven't actually looked at the purple DD skills what makes one N and one 5

[fiery swan]

how good is colorado retrofit

[whole crypt]

around West Virginia level

[fiery swan]

is that good or?

[soft raft]

she got pre-limed at T1 flag + pair
Forgot to notice that the command got updated lol

[keen sable]

Unfortunately imo rather doubtful

[whole crypt]

mediocre

[keen sable]

To be good you need to run 2bb which is not common or even good. But that is exactly what T1 pair or whatever tag means

[jaunty vault]

pretty misleading tbh

[fiery swan]

also what should i do with the 3000+ core data i got during campaign

[low juniper]

Does FP do anything for CVs? If so, how does the AVI stat factor in?

[soft raft]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[jaunty vault]

then again its only a preliminary eval

[whole crypt]

planes scale on AVI like guns do with FP
CVs with FP will only be because they have a barrage that can scale with it, or they can use a gun like Bearn and Eagle

[keen sable]

It does if they have fp stat to begin with or named houshou

[radiant mesa]

Should I focus on farming for the UR gun or snagging Mogador first with my event crystals?

[jaunty vault]

both

[keen sable]

just don't not play for 4 weeks

[whole crypt]

Zeppy as well
Houshou is just... whatever

[eternal basalt]

You should have reached 200 vouchers today

[whole crypt]

Houshou has 0 base FP and the slot is rubbish

[jaunty vault]

mog you can get with UR vouchers
UR vouchers you can get from other sources
so ig moggun gets prio

[keen sable]

Irrelevant whether they're good to answer the question. The only ship with fp damage without natural fp is houshou

[faint kite]

these are all my UR ships and those that still need MLB, who should i MLB first i only have enough for 2.

[low juniper]

Is it a good idea to have the sword aug on Alsace? I just realized it's for the first volley she fires and she has a preload, so does the buff lose some value if other BB(s) can't fire within the buff timer?

[crimson glacier]

the buff is always useless

[jaunty vault]

you want the stats

[whole crypt]

probably Alsace

[keen sable]

It could lose value or gain value but tell me do you really want to do 5% less damage to helena meta

[soft raft]

Alsace > NJ = Shinano > Laffey II > Mogador > Kronstadht

[crimson glacier]

just +9 the crossbow

how in any way is shinano equal to NJ lol

she is way better

[tired condor]

should I bother leveling lecture hall

[whole crypt]

Shinano probably, I wouldn't recommend NJ with Soyuz, Alsace, UvH and FdG ready

[eternal basalt]

Both great ass

[whole crypt]

LB Shinano with spare bulins then let NJ wait for more pity

[atomic abyss]

Yes
But level up your merchant and canteen first

[tired condor]

10k coins for an extra 300 exp an hr doesn't seem very good

[soft raft]

it's worth it in the long run

[whole crypt]

10k coins is nothing in the long run

[eternal basalt]

Forever

[atomic abyss]

I mean you get 10k coins very easily lol

[soft raft]

You'll make back that 10k verrrrrrrrry easily

[whole crypt]

I mean if the coin cost looks high to you now you can skip it, you're probably not getting alot out of lecture hall yet

[tired condor]

I wish I could make 10k easily

[crimson glacier]

yeah in a big picture 10k is literally the same as 0

[atomic abyss]

As said, focus on merchant and canteen upgrades first

[tired condor]

o those I already did

[soft raft]

it's called grinding 12-4/13-4 like 6 times

[eternal basalt]

12-4

[keen sable]

No joke I don't even bother spending xp packs

[whole crypt]

how many lv100+ ships do you have

[tired condor]

not a lot

[keen sable]

If I had unlimited chips maybe

[whole crypt]

because if you're not using your lv100+ ships quite a bit where there's decent XP, you're not going to get much out of your lecture hall anyway for now

[eternal basalt]

Do you keep them at 3000? I'm always fighting the cap.

[whole crypt]

that's an odd number to be handing out, was it based on commander level or something

[soft raft]

the returnee daily login rewards? Yeah

[abstract latch]

How do i know which ship is good/not?

[eternal basalt]

20 is an odd number? Or the 27?

[boreal wagon]

by the very definition of numbers it would be odd (20 not so much)

[keen sable]

#bot-spam /tierlist

[abstract latch]

Ok

[soft raft]

you can look at this for a general idea on who's good in context of campaign up to W13 https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home

Otherwise you can ask here, and if needed, post your dock in a thread if you need help with fleets

Also you'd want to give this a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[whole crypt]

27

[low juniper]

Is this good

[whole crypt]

workable

[low juniper]

Or should I change the AA gun

[crimson glacier]

AA gun barely ever matters

[whole crypt]

that'd depend on whether you need more AA, but for a start you'll want to enhance that before trying to find a better gun

[eternal basalt]

Also aux blue > washing machine

[abstract latch]

What does the acronyms stand for?

[whole crypt]

I assume he took blue steer out of the lack of a gold one

[soft raft]

which acronyms?

[whole crypt]

hull classes

[inland shoal]

They are the same as ingame

[abstract latch]

I still don't know what they stands for

[low juniper]

It can be made like that?#

[inland shoal]

No he just means you should replace when you get one

[primal obsidian]

do the event ships need to survive b3/d3 bosses to count towards the mission?

[low juniper]

Oh

[soft raft]

Hull classes
Left to right and top to bottom:
Battleship/Battlecruiser/Aviation Battleship/Monitor/Frigate (Main)
Carrier/Light Carrier
Heavy Cruiser/Large Cruiser
Light Cruiser/Frigate (Vanguard)
Destroyer/Guided Missile Destroyer
Submarine/Submarine Carrier/Frigate
"Other" includes basically every other hulltype not mentioned

[abstract latch]

I played the game since like 3 hours ago man

[low juniper]

I have 3 but they're being using by Guam, Anchorage and Carl

Guess I can swap Carl's off for now

[primal obsidian]

so what is it, yes or no

[soft raft]

they do not need to survive for the challenge mission for couvhers

[abstract latch]

Thank u kind man

[jaunty vault]

depends on what mission yoy mean

[whole crypt]

they don't

[eager mulch]

don’t need to live

[primal obsidian]

the one that gives 10 tickets for mogador

[inland shoal]

Then that tier list is pretty useless to you tbh

[jaunty vault]

they dont

[primal obsidian]

thanks guys

[eternal basalt]

The challenge missions: They NEED to survive

[abstract latch]

Ah

[jaunty vault]

np

[whole crypt]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/early_ship_recommendations
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
this is what you need

[inland shoal]

And now what the acronyms rly stand for (as CA for Heavy Cruiser makes no sense etc.)

[whole crypt]

#history

[boreal wagon]

CA just stands for Armored Cruiser doesnt it and the reason the C is first because it used to be just C (before they split)

[whole crypt]

essentially

[hushed dawn]

How good is Alsace for bossing?

[jaunty vault]

gph mod going off topic would make breaking mews

[atomic abyss]

Very very good

[eager mulch]

mewing?

[atomic abyss]

Preload puts her dps ahead of her rivals up till about maybe 100s in?

[eager mulch]

Alsace is UR BB she can both mob and boss very well

[hushed dawn]

Okay given that answer, how relevant is Vanguard nowadays?

[eager mulch]

still relevant

[atomic abyss]

Still relevant

[abstract latch]

Thank u

[jaunty vault]

still best buffer BB

[hushed dawn]

But what's her use then, given Soyuz, Kear, and Alsace now in the meta?

[abstract latch]

I should use javelin then?

[steady beacon]

Options are always nice

[jaunty vault]

is javelin your starter ship

[whole crypt]

where the heck does Kearsarge come in

[abstract latch]

No, its the z3 something

Im already using z3

[jaunty vault]

then you dont need to use javelin

[abstract latch]

Ok who should i put then?

[soft raft]

follow the newbie guide's fleet setup

[eager mulch]

portland, z23, helena

[abstract latch]

Ok i will buy helena

[worldly pewter]

i think it is better to add - to > because usually > means better ( superior )

[atomic abyss]

Kear doesn't directly compete with them - she uses different comps

All 4 can both be used well on mob and boss
Musashi with her bulk supporting skills when taking damage
Soyuz with her ridiculous crossfleet
Vanguard with her high reload
Alsace with her preload

[steady beacon]

And that's how my entire fleet had their rudders replaced with naval camo and steering gears

[atomic abyss]

You basically can use them in different ways to serve your needs

[eager mulch]

musashi when she eats 8 million planes in W15

[whole crypt]

that's why you have AA and Aquila on heal

[hushed dawn]

Wait, then what comp do people use Kear in?
YKII + Implac / Enty?

[eager mulch]

I use kear with yt2 and enty ja . Can I get a renhex?

[whole crypt]

Musashi is legit one of the most potent ch15 comps

[atomic abyss]

Kear required as least 1 US ship in the backline after all

So unless they release another Iowa...
I don't think we're seeing much of Kear BB comps

...in the first place she has an ARA skill so

[eager mulch]

NJ

[hard mesa]

Ykii+essexs

[cobalt rapids]

u only need another US for ARA if u use kear in bb comp u dont need it

[hushed dawn]

I've been misusing her then because I use Kear in 3BB comps.

[atomic abyss]

I feel that isn't maximising her buffs but eh
It can and will work

There's just better choices for 3 BB comps imo

[eager mulch]

you don’t always have to maximize buffs

[wind hazel]

real

[whole crypt]

welcome to gph

[eager mulch]

then you’d see more faction fleets

[wind hazel]

you don't even need to use kearsarge at all

[steady beacon]

She is usually found supporting Yorktown yes
She can be used in triple BB comps if you like, though, there's nothing wrong with that and she isn't really inferior to other options, just that her buffs are better for CVs
Typically, though, if you use Kear in BB comps you are doing something specific that needs her unique capabilities or you can just be me and use her simply because I want to

[whole crypt]

she is inferior for her shit RLD

also gun reqs

[hard mesa]

does stronghold spawns day change? usually on monday

[eager mulch]

solved with MK7 gear lab

[atomic abyss]

I'll consider using Kear in my 4th opsi comp

[whole crypt]

2 on monthly reset + 1 on reset to Monday

[hushed dawn]

Aight thank you guys btw. All things noted for future shenanigans.

[boreal wagon]

up to 3 maximum active

[whole crypt]

well in that case Mk6 also worked fine, but if you missed Soyuz gun her only good AP gun is 457

[atomic abyss]

Wait there's a max no of strongholds on the map

Fuck

[steady beacon]

If you would like to present concrete evidence of her inferiority, please, by all means

[boreal wagon]

yeah 3 is the max

[whole crypt]

and she still has RLD problems

[atomic abyss]

Does that mean I'm losing out if I don't clear

[boreal wagon]

yes

[whole crypt]

no

[atomic abyss]

[undone plover]

no they stack. even if they dont show up u are fine

[kind slate]

when is this?

[whole crypt]

uncleared strongholds are "stored" until the map clears up

[hard mesa]

[atomic abyss]

Oh thank fuck

[viscid swift]

June 6th

[boreal wagon]

but if you already have 3 and it rolls to monday it doesnt remember the 4th

[kind slate]

nice.

[whole crypt]

pretty sure I've cleared more than 4 strongholds within a day

[boreal wagon]

last time i had 3 on the map and it was supposed to give me the 4th it vanished and clearing the other 3 didnt make it show up

but that was also ages ago

[whole crypt]

might have changed at some point shrug, you also need to reenter OS for the stored stronghold to populate

[boreal wagon]

yeah it didnt there werent any other icons covering it either who knows, also possible i might just be misremembering

[atomic abyss]

Yeah I feel like I did cram more than 3 strongholds

[whole crypt]

well if it did it was an old problem, nowadays it stores fine

[atomic abyss]

Arigathanks minna

[eager mulch]

huh

[whole crypt]

I think I found where I'll put Moggies

[cobalt rapids]

d3 mob fleet?

[atomic abyss]

The mobbie fleet?

[whole crypt]

OS mob

[kind slate]

is laffey ii good in campaign? i dont rlly hear of her much outside of pvp or anything else

[atomic abyss]

God like for w13/15

[whole crypt]

might be in D3 for a bit for affinity, if not the usual grind, but probably replacing Harbin

[atomic abyss]

Laffey II has godly tank and AA capabilities

So she's really good in the plane hells

And because she's a DD she can be the asw slot for w14

[cobalt rapids]

and 15

[idle perch]

could someone send the google doc for equipment guide?

[kind slate]

so shes basically good everywhere.

[whole crypt]

pretty much just looking to push my OS mob vanguard DPS for faster clears

[idle perch]

i literally cant find it or im blind as heck

[cobalt rapids]

/equip sams in #bot-spam

[whole crypt]

just bookmark https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/index

[silver lintel]

Wheres unzen

[whole crypt]

one of the boss fleets

[idle perch]

is samheart the new go to guide?

[cobalt rapids]

always has been

[idle perch]

i used to see neeza or whoever

[whole crypt]

equipment guide is linked in there anyway, it's the same guide

nerezza passed it on to sam

[idle perch]

o7 nerezza

it would be nice to have a specific equipment guide for each ship

[atomic abyss]

Ectl tries to do that
But unfortunately it's kinda misleading at times

[whole crypt]

ectl has one but it's very generic, it's not useful where it matters

most ships don't require specific gear sets anyway

[cobalt rapids]

that doesnt work because you first gear for content and then by ship

[idle perch]

ngl all im looking for is just the general best use

its just for normal farming

[whole crypt]

there's no general best use, if it works it just means either you got the right gear or the thing you're doing is easy enough to not matter

[kind slate]

out of alsace, zwei, soyuz, uvh, fdg, which one is best to use in w14? assuming all lvl 125

[idle perch]

w

[whole crypt]

depends™️

[eager mulch]

well off flag uvh just kills herself

[whole crypt]

I don't think anyone's tested Alsace for 14 yet
BisZwei is nice for doing 0ammo fights with cert
FdG was still generally one of the strongest mob BBs
not sure about Soyuz
UvH is budget FdG for 14

[kind slate]

aight

[whole crypt]

or just Aquila+Musashi and forget about it

[eager mulch]

Aqashi very stronk

[kind slate]

i dont have either

i have volga and uni tho

[whole crypt]

Unicorn is pretty much staple
Volga doesn't work as well as Aquila for Musashi but you could probably use her with FdG or BisZwei

[low dove]

how much of a difference is haku’s 2nd fate skill?

[jaunty vault]

which one is the 2nd fate skill

[livid thunder]

Hi I just got mogador. So is she more of a tank or a dps?
Also do I want to put full evasion gear or HP?

[jaunty vault]

DPS, HP

[cobalt rapids]

2x hp

[livid thunder]

Oki!
Is it inefficient to put EVA on DDs?

[low dove]

the improved barrage

cannot find a preview of the skill anywhere

[steady beacon]

The Saiun Kai torpedoes go from 239 damage to 427 iirc (so just short of double)
As for total improvement to her damage from the entire Fate Simulation... iirc the figure was about 10%?

Actually, probably more ngl lol

[umbral goblet]

So I have Roon, Monarch and Drake to grind pr.
Should I don't bother to grind them anymore?

[livid thunder]

Dual swords or hammer on mogador?

[strange sphinx]

pls don't judge, I only paid attention to my gears just this year

[soft raft]

Very inefficient
DDs have way higher EVA than other vanguards that could make better use of such auxes

[steady beacon]

The appearance of her barrages don't change by the way
It's still three lightning bolts + 2 Saiun Kais, with two torpedoes each
Only the damage numbers of the latter changed

[low dove]

📝

[soft raft]

Roon's basically just tech points fodder at this point
Monarch too
And Drake is still solid compared to most SR CAs but she's been powercrept quite a bit

[livid thunder]

Oh ok I was wondering since her skill makes her scale on Eva

[jaunty vault]

the total barrage only damage of the barrage skill increases by about 30%
but this does not serve as a metric because idk how it scales with her damage

[boreal wagon]

any EVA aux you can put on mog will not give her enough damage compared to the tank in survivability

[steady beacon]

Thank you because I was too lazy to actually calculate

[livid thunder]

Okay thanks guys have a good day

[strange sphinx]

should I give up my two radar for Tool kit and eva?

[sharp token]

should i invest for ark royal for cv fleet or just go straight to AvP?

[whole crypt]

you could use Ark Royal while AvP devs

[steady beacon]

Yes

[vale thicket]

I have a potentially silly question but,

The "Fair Winds" Cruise Missions, is that like the game's Battle Pass? Which renews at the start of June?

[steady beacon]

Idk what "Battle Pass" is, but the current season does end with the month of May, and a new one starts (going for two months) from June 1st

[sharp token]

i haven't retrofit her should i still do it?

[boreal wagon]

it is indeed a battle pass but fair winds only refers to the paid version of it, there is also a free version

[strange sphinx]

I can explain why, she doesn't have the UR plane for hwr..... do you know that before the banner ends, I construct some ships, but that time I quited for 1 month. long story short... I got her late

[vale thicket]

gotcha! thank you all <3

[whole crypt]

essentially
cruise pass for AL goes in 2 month intervals
there's also a lot of headroom to do/not do shit to complete the pass within the 2 months

and yes there's a free and a paid pass, with the paid pass giving you 15 tiers of progression upfront

[vale thicket]

gotcha! yeah i found the pass to be rather forgiving cause i joined the game midway through it, and still finished it

[boreal wagon]

thats what good game design does for u

[whole crypt]

the timegates only count from the season, latecomers are not penalized by the timegates

[elfin hollow]

What ship does this event gear works best?

[grizzled creek]

Is Sirius a BB ? I don't see her in this other SR buy for the medal shop

[kind slate]

can you get scylla from WW? i hear her mentioned a lot

[whole crypt]

actually Chang Chun

[strange sphinx]

help for this

[grizzled creek]

How do I get her to appear in the medal shop then? Cause guide says she's in there

[boreal wagon]

it rotates monthly

[elfin hollow]

Cl

[novel condor]

me waiting 2 years for her

[whole crypt]

medal shop SR pool rotates randomly each month, wait for CL to show up

[grizzled creek]

Ohhhh ok

[spring bolt]

i vote for ddg

[elfin hollow]

And yes u can in medal shops

[elfin hollow]

So chang chun?

[kind slate]

where can i get scylla?

[eager mulch]

implacable event

[boreal wagon]

the funniest part about it rotating randomly is that im p sure the same hull can happen twice

[spring bolt]

yup. or sandy/poi if you want to

[hallow iron]

Where do i get augment? Is it random Drop from stages

[elfin hollow]

Poi?

[novel condor]

Thought augments u get from events also

[whole crypt]

Scylla's event hasn't come back, you're going to have to wait for rerun

[spring bolt]

yuudachi

[hallow iron]

Oo events means event stages or reward from event

[elfin hollow]

I think imma just give it to yuudachi since yuudachi is a ur

[boreal wagon]

there is a daily raid (actually 2 attempts per week) that gives you augment materials
and you then can craft most augments in depot -> craft -> special

[whole crypt]

I have a feeling Chang Chun can squeeze more DPS out of the gun than Yuudachi

[viscid swift]

You can get mats to craft augment modules from the event shop and the approach raid

[hallow iron]

Ahh icic, I read somewhere people says to use blue augment to get purple augment cause it's cheaper, I though we can farm blue augment

So generally we can craft purple straight

[spring bolt]

why we only have one of it
and this will last for probably 2 years

[boreal wagon]

its not technically cheaper its just easier to start out with

enhance exp wise its actually technically worse but that barely matters

[hallow iron]

One last question mr lar, is officer sword the go to augment for alsace

[whole crypt]

I'll probably put mog gun on moggies once I actually get around leveling her, and she'll go right in the spot of the ship that's using mog gun now

[serene moth]

do people use 1:1 to farm the event stages?

[eager mulch]

yesnt

[whole crypt]

depends™️

[boreal wagon]

augments depend on the situation as does every piece of gear

[viscid swift]

For SP and the inital clear yes

[serene moth]

for grind farming ?

[eager mulch]

B1

[viscid swift]

Most people don't need to know about the forbidden B1 technique

[eager mulch]

Full fleet D3 is the go to when I’m not doing B1

[whole crypt]

most people don't know how to make a reliable B1 technique

[serene moth]

aight, i run out of oul quick tho

[whole crypt]

also B1 takes ages compared to D3

[hallow iron]

Ahh icic, I read somewhere the bow is for heavy enemies and sword for general use

That's correct?

[boreal wagon]

you could abstract it like that

[viscid swift]

It's not quite that simple but for simplicity sure

[hallow iron]

Is there an augment guide lol, I try to read if it's available

[boreal wagon]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment#augment_module probably works for simplicity terms (provided you know hull abbreviations but they are also at the top of that page)

[whole crypt]

is that mcwhatever DB?

[viscid swift]

McClusky yeah

[umbral ridge]

Any updates on mogador?

[hallow iron]

Thanks Mr lar and ministry of big balans botie

[boreal wagon]

CN/JP has patch it looks solid EN has not gotten it (yet)

[whole crypt]

seriously it'll probably be faster to just follow https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment than asking ship by ship

if you don't know what to do with gear just follow the basic gear recs

[umbral ridge]

@boreal wagon I’m guessing we won’t see the change until next maintenance?

[boreal wagon]

either that or tomorrow, no one knows in reality tho

[forest palm]

Mog for worst UR

[eager mulch]

TN

[umbral ridge]

Thanks

[hallow iron]

Is there an example of high hit ship? Is alsace one of them XD

Sorry for too many question

[whole crypt]

most BBs have relatively low hit, if that's helps

[hallow iron]

Ok nice thanks

[eternal moth]

Warspite is one of the highest BBs IIRC

[whole crypt]

she is the highest

in fact none of the UR/DR BBs rank up top

let me check where Alsace stands

[eternal moth]

Slightly below NJ

[whole crypt]

in practice significantly below NJ

[eternal moth]

Actually yeah, I'm seeing the luck difference as well

[whole crypt]

5 less HIT and 38 less luck

but same ballpark as Musashi

[eternal moth]

Above Soyuz

[whole crypt]

Soyuz is even worse than FdG wtf

[eternal moth]

Wait, maybe not. I don't know how luck plays into it, so they might be about the same

[whole crypt]

about the same after FS

[hard mesa]

i think its average as UR BB

[umbral goblet]

What should I bring for 14-4?
DD tank?

[cobalt rapids]

good ships

depends on ur dock

[sweet delta]

~~I did say it was a possibility https://discord.com/channels/@me/1092148547492794459/1244204985026215958~~

[eager mulch]

what is this virus

[fallen pasture]

Should I change my laffey retrofit to a mogador?

[whole crypt]

not before LB and probably not before the patch

[soft raft]

Yeah are you even able to MLB mog yet

[eager mulch]

I did

[umbral goblet]

What's a b-1 farming techniques?

[whole crypt]

rule of thumb ships that are not LB'd are shit
rainbow ships are not excpetions

[cobalt rapids]

4 oil fleets

[whole crypt]

3

[eager mulch]

3 is too much trouble

[cobalt rapids]

common cvl + 1 of mahan class

[spring bolt]

before fix mogador is close to unusable
but fix is SOON

[whole crypt]

3 is easy

[umbral goblet]

Isn't it time consuming?

[cobalt rapids]

sure it is

its why its not recommended

[eager mulch]

I’m already grinding B1 for all eternity I don’t wanna add more time swapping my cv all the time

[cobalt rapids]

unless ure a player who wants to save oil but at the same time has nothing to lvl

[whole crypt]

it's just swapping once like every 5-6 sets of 3s

[eager mulch]

3/4 oil B1 is technically the most efficient but it sacrifices too much for the average player

[whole crypt]

it's mainly just time-efficiency

[spring bolt]

CN is having a new 0lb toy: z20 due to new DD gun

[eager mulch]

CN also gets to level their 0lb ships past 70 so

[topaz smelt]

Doesn't cn run this shit in d3

[eager mulch]

I can see it

[whole crypt]

I think they lowcost on hard with 0LB 100s but I don't think it can manage D3

so not sure which hard map they run

[topaz smelt]

Prob fine with enough crossfleets

[whole crypt]

subs and the like make it unreliable

also crossfleets get scuffed if you don't get boss spawn in time

[spring bolt]

well now the most practical low cost farming for CN is 3 oil b3, followed by 4 oil c2
low cost D maps are too hard for 0lb shits

[whole crypt]

is that lv100 0LB Mahan + low CVL for 3oil B3

[spring bolt]

like i said, they use z20 now but yes

[whole crypt]

oh right

well usually the point of failure is the CVL anyway so anything that drags isn't going to work

[kind slate]

if i get everything important from event, should i go back to progressing campaign? or continue farming event?

[white flame]

in rookie missions, do i need to complete "Finish building any Series 3 PR ship." to unlock the next series missions?

[viscid swift]

yes

[atomic abyss]

yes

[eager mulch]

yes

[atomic abyss]

define everything important

[undone plover]

depends what u mean by everything. going for 55k milestone is recommended
also getting 2nd mog copy is also worth

[round hare]

whats the command for PR ships coin guide/graph thingie

[eager mulch]

does that command exist?

[atomic abyss]

im 90% sure it does not

who even is the ship there

[whole crypt]

probably one of them old botched designs

[kind slate]

like gear

[atomic abyss]

so then the PR BPs too?

[kind slate]

srry like mog copies, gear boxes, chips and bps

[whole crypt]

gear boxes are not important

[atomic abyss]

the impt stuff are like research BPs

[eager mulch]

cogs more imo

[round hare]

how many time is ideal? for PR, 10 buy right

[whole crypt]

gear, ship (if no drop), chips, BPs
oil also applicable for additional farming since they're net positive

[eager mulch]

I just do 10/day for both pr and dr

well not dr anymore

[kind slate]

do i get all bearn meta crystals? i havent gotten her yet

[whole crypt]

if you're still farming D3 no
if you want to stop you need at least 8k to get the base ship
crystals can probably get from meta shop later

[round hare]

and that would take how many days for PR?

31? if last day 13 buy right?

[jaunty vault]

34 if 13 on last day

[eager mulch]

35 if 10/ day with no fs and 3 on last day

[round hare]

i see

[eager mulch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/759614141425385492/888195999665909780/unknown-14.png?ex=6654663c&is=665314bc&hm=26d024daa0a7afaaf2c66e29956578f43b396d6d87fc4a0fdf3708121d5c42e0&

[round hare]

my dumbass though its 313

[undone plover]

make sure u reach the 55k milestone for the gold plates as well

[hallow iron]

Nelson is a good retrofit target right for bb?

[jaunty vault]

yes

she could also be worthless/tech fodder if you have better BBs

[hallow iron]

Only got alsace and howe for now

[jaunty vault]

ig she's worth investing for you

[atomic abyss]

esp with howe

[hallow iron]

Btw I'm curious about something, is retrofit something that's introduced for older unit only? I'm it's like this game equivalent to buff in other gacha

[eager mulch]

introduced for ships that they decide

not old necessarily

[jaunty vault]

only devs know what ships get retrofitted

[hallow iron]

Oo so the release order doesn't really matter

[jaunty vault]

nope

[atomic abyss]

random

[shell willow]

what do i need to do to get the guild tech perks? reach a given amount of guild contribution points?

[hallow iron]

Wow interesting way to do that XD

[eager mulch]

Colorado going from TN to T1 paired, what a glow up

[atomic abyss]

there are some ships that got retrofits on release....

[hallow iron]

Damnn that's very random then

[hard mesa]

is it only kinu?

[atomic abyss]

yeah i'm pretty sure only kinu

[jaunty vault]

still prelim

[whole crypt]

if you're new to a guild you'll need to make contribution before you can access tech
after you can access tech you have to buy tech, capped at the higher of your guild's or the public guild's tech level

[shell willow]

ahh thx. do i purchase tech with the contribution points once its unlocked?

[vale spindle]

kasumi got retrofit upon her event rerunning which i guess is close enough

[hard mesa]

was nelson kai last year?

[jaunty vault]

probably idk

[steady beacon]

She was
Last year CN anni, in fact

[calm rose]

will plygun still be better on felix/otto or is the new 138 better?

[vale spindle]

thats a good question, try both and see

[sweet delta]

For Felix, ply gun still

[sweet delta]

For Otto do this

Or wait for a magic trick

[calm rose]

thanks

[meager gyro]

are bremerton and kii worth keeping?

[sharp token]

am i doing this right?

[topaz smelt]

the gun sucks

[meager gyro]

you have better gear on one ship than i have in total 😭

[topaz smelt]

youre actually just trolling at this point

[strange sphinx]

ah the GUN

[sharp token]

oh slow reload

[atomic abyss]

i mean i'd say yes
they're not the best but they're not bad by any means
you may need them for PR exp after all

[languid slate]

guys, is the new French torp good?

[vale spindle]

as good as the quint gold 533 from tech boxes

so basically average at best

[languid slate]

Oh... that's a shame

ty

[atomic abyss]

i mean umi, the guy doesn't have much to begin with

iirc his dock is super sparse

[sweet delta]

Almost as good as rainbow quint 610

[atomic abyss]

does anyone actually unironically use the rainbow 610

[glacial solstice]

Whats the current spot for exp farm?

[atomic abyss]

i just dumped mine on odin and totally forgot about it

[cobalt rapids]

yes but i advocate for anything goes for pr exp

[atomic abyss]

w12/13

[vale spindle]

Me because i don't have enough quad mags

and i don't like gear swapping

[atomic abyss]

how worth even is it to craft quad mags

[cobalt rapids]

pretty good, no real conflicts on materials

[glacial solstice]

On w13, even on safe theres still threat of sky cancer?

[vale spindle]

its cheap enough to be worth esp if you got purple quad 533 enhanced for transitional like me

[atomic abyss]

basically for w13, you do need proper fleets to exp grind
w12 you can get away with a lot more things

[cobalt rapids]

yes planes dont dissapear it just goes down

[atomic abyss]

the thing about exp grinding is

you don't want to JUST do exp grinding

[tame jungle]

Quick aside, does AA damage also get reduced when out of ammo?

[atomic abyss]

add more purpose to it
perhaps pr grind
or ship farming
or fleet tech

uhhhhhh AA damage does not get reduced iirc

[sweet delta]

Surface to air AA does not get ammo buffs or debuffs

[cobalt rapids]

plane aa should

[atomic abyss]

yeah aa guns don't get affected by ammo buff/debuff

[tame jungle]

Right thanks

[meager gyro]

[chrome lake]

Hey guys need help for team comp. I just got Alsace, is she good? I'm new in the game just started 2 days ago. And this is my current line up.

[warm flax]

Not good cuz non mlb

[steady beacon]

Do you consider manual unironic?
If not, then I'm afraid I can't say I do

[viscid swift]

she is, but I highly doubt you can MLB her anytime soon so no

[cobalt rapids]

alsace good but not at lb0, but lb1 should be fast

[elfin hollow]

What faction is unzen

[atomic abyss]

sakura

[jaunty vault]

tfw non mlb alsace is still beyter tham penny

[undone plover]

she is fine offtank. LB1 alsace is probably better than anything else he will get in a short time and LB1 isnt hard to get

[atomic abyss]

given that the penny there is no limit broken too
actually nothing there IS limit broken except port

[jaunty vault]

[atomic abyss]

the understanding is that 610 was the manual torp up till the parallel? torps came about iirc

[steady beacon]

You still use 610s for face torping
Bc the ceiling is still higher

[atomic abyss]

then 610 it is then

[tame jungle]

610 being the quints in this case right

[eager mulch]

rainbow quints ya

[atomic abyss]

unzen would love the extra torp stat too

[steady beacon]

The Mk IXs just have better pattern, so you need less skill and it's more reliable when the bosses are hard to face torp against for whatever reason

[elfin hollow]

Which one should i focus on mlb (UR bulins) first then second then third

[steady beacon]

Soyuz, I'd say

[tame jungle]

Soyuz

[inland shoal]

Get Alsace?

[atomic abyss]

soyuz first, then alsace if you get her

[elfin hollow]

Im saving up my cubes until the last day (20 cubes rn)

[chrome lake]

I see so for now who do you guys think to focus on or to put for my 6 member this is my current ship right now.

[meager gyro]

is this worth crafting?

[elfin hollow]

The british one is better

[inland shoal]

Meh

[viscid swift]

Penn, Saratoga, Unicorn, Portland, Laffey, Helena

[meager gyro]

this one?

[tame jungle]

If that’s the mk ix then yea

[viscid swift]

also limit break your ships asap

[topaz smelt]

only if you manual

[elfin hollow]

Thats only if u do manual

[eager mulch]

for manual maybe, I’d still prefer quad mags

[meager gyro]

well good that i didnt craft it yet

[chrome lake]

Thank you I will do that.

[meager gyro]

uhhhhhh whats this? this looks really confusing

[chrome lake]

For limit breaking do I just use my universal bulin or just farm for there copy instead?

[warm flax]

Does Yuudachi outdamage Laffey 2 on opsi mobbing?

[viscid swift]

just use bullins, not worth farming for dupes just to limit break them

[chrome lake]

OK so who do I focus on limit breaking first? Cause I only have a limited business right now.

[sacred silo]

you got alsace before getting a single sr

lucky

[viscid swift]

bullins you mean?
Pennsylvania first the your 2 remaining vanguards

[meager gyro]

hmm i kinda wanna tilt build again, maybe ill get a 7th alsace

[chrome lake]

Opps yes auto correction lol.

[chrome lake]

Am I? Well I can't ever use here though for now lol.

[sacred silo]

u can get ur bullins from some of the beginner stuff pretty quickly i think

[meager gyro]

ah fuck it imma tilt build, my account is already past being able to get saved

[topaz smelt]

feel free to brick your acc ig

it looked better than average to everyone else here

[meager gyro]

brick?

[topaz smelt]

🧱

[meager gyro]

?

[viscid swift]

get it stuck basically

even that won't be enough to truly brick it though, but it's not something you should do

I honestley don't really know what else to say tbh

your account had a decent base, it just needed some work put in to get it down the right track

[meager gyro]

no 7th alsace :(

[viscid swift]

blogging goes to #al-general by the way

[topaz smelt]

what happened to informative cheeky

[meager gyro]

how do i get cubes fast?

[topaz smelt]

you dont

[viscid swift]

playing the game

cube income is steady but you need to play consistently if you want to gain any traction on that front

[tame jungle]

Best way to earn cubes is to not spend them like a dumbass

[viscid swift]

ran out of things to inform people on, for now...

[meager gyro]

yeah my account is past saving

[tame jungle]

What

[viscid swift]

for the last time it is not

[topaz smelt]

ad my new project for me

[viscid swift]

despite your efforts

[viscid swift]

pay me and sure

[topaz smelt]

you can send the bill to sam

[solar mortar]

would anyone mind helping me sort out fleets for op siren? i think i have enough good ships to take me far and be able to farm it properly

[viscid swift]

sure, start a thread and post your dock

[solar mortar]

did so ^_^

[meager gyro]

should i craft this?

[jaunty vault]

no

[serene moth]

There is /gearlab where you Will see stuff you want to craft/save for

[jaunty vault]

did you read the /gearlab guide@meager gyro

[meager gyro]

idk

[jaunty vault]

read it

[meager gyro]

where

[jaunty vault]

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[glacial solstice]

Can you get away in w12 with only one carry for exp grind or you need one each in main and vg?

[meager gyro]

i cant see anything in that pic tbh

[serene moth]

Either dowload it or open it in browser

[tame jungle]

Or go to ECGC site (which will probably answer 80% of a new player’s questions)

[atomic abyss]

I mean you only needed at most 5 to begin with...?

[jaunty vault]

you can get away with no carry lol

[jaunty vault]

tilt

swag

[glacial solstice]

The minimum level?

[jaunty vault]

if youre 12-1 safe, 90ish should be fine

[jaunty vault]

dude always replies with stuff like this when asked questions like this and i find it so funny

[meager gyro]

should i craft one of these?

[jaunty vault]

sure

[meager gyro]

who should i put it on?

[jaunty vault]

any CV/L

[misty tree]

How many flapjacks is too many?

[silk helm]

Is there a gear disassemble guide?

[jaunty vault]

yes

[jaunty vault]

yes do /equip in bot spam

[undone plover]

ch15 sample fleet uses 12 flapjacks. but u dont need that much tbh

[jaunty vault]

need and want are two different things

[topaz smelt]

you prob dont even need 1/4 of that

[misty tree]

So i can settle for 4 flapjacks, 2 tigercats and a ton of hellcats?

[meager gyro]

is there any realistic chance that i can even save my account?

[jaunty vault]

hellcats are useless when you have flappys/tiger

[topaz smelt]

you need to save yourself to do that

[jaunty vault]

man

realistically speaking

lmao

[meager gyro]

hm well too bad i spent money once

[stark quiver]

honestly, you can just enlarge it, yk?

[worldly pewter]

what i like about this comment is that the commentator doesn't know anything about the game and still can conclude that his account can't be saved

[meager gyro]

i got 0 cubes and basically no gear

[atomic abyss]

I mean why did you even roll past the first Alsace copy when we told you not to

[hallow iron]

Is gear not farmable?

[atomic abyss]

Or at the absolutely worst, past 5

No one starts out with gear

All your early gear is from tech boxes

[meager gyro]

after 3 it was tilt

[worldly pewter]

i was using grey gear and enhancing that to progress

[stark quiver]

then thats your problem, not ours, people only givem advice, your choice if u wanna follow them

[atomic abyss]

Your account is still salvageable
It's just gonna take a long ass time to salvage it

[meager gyro]

i dont even know where id have to start

[atomic abyss]

you start by not rolling anymore

[boreal wagon]

actually listening to advice when given is a good start

[hallow iron]

Can i know what did he do? I don't follow this and want to know what to avoid XD

[worldly pewter]

[atomic abyss]

He kept on rolling the gacha after the first UR copy

[stark quiver]

you start by listening

[atomic abyss]

Went past 5 copies

Which is the absolute most even a whale should go for

[hallow iron]

Oo damnn

[atomic abyss]

And ended up with 6

[topaz smelt]

Whales don't even go past 4

[atomic abyss]

And went for the 7th

[undone plover]

That doesnt brick your account tho does it?
Bricking account is using gems on oil or sth stupid. Or disassembling hedgehog (even that isnt brick but sth u cant get back)
Sth that leaves perma damage basically

[jaunty vault]

cubes take a long time to recover

[atomic abyss]

in the first place, how did you even get enough cubes to roll 6 alsaces

[eager mulch]

tilt building

[jaunty vault]

probably got lucky

[boreal wagon]

technically 12 cubes is all u need

[undone plover]

But u can recover them is my point. Not like there is another event shorty after this

[jaunty vault]

swag

[hallow iron]

7 alsace sound very lucky if low pull damn

[meager gyro]

less than 200 cubes

[atomic abyss]

[hallow iron]

are u just bragging

[soft raft]

[jaunty vault]

this gets funnier everytime

[atomic abyss]

I hate to use this phrase but, stop the cap

[undone plover]

That is not a lot wasted then. Just stop building tho what are u even trying to get?

[hallow iron]

This is brag right?? Peak comedy lol

[meager gyro]

im not capping

[atomic abyss]

then it is a non issue

[meager gyro]

i had a little over 100 cubes when i came back

[undone plover]

Just start saving. Realistically u can skip every event and get 400 cubes for sep event.

[hallow iron]

200 cube for 7 alsace give me the luck

[meager gyro]

only 6 :(

[ivory linden]

must suck lol

[meager gyro]

but i got 2 in the same build once

[hallow iron]

Yeah suck only six

[stark quiver]

wow must suck, we dont care, go to #trophy-room

[soft raft]

Bro over here complaining that he has 6 when people would probably fight his ass for just even 1

[atomic abyss]

fyi

it is not normal to get that many

people struggle to get even 1 in 400 cubes

[worldly pewter]

i told u the man have no idea what is he typing

[boreal wagon]

honestly the funniest part is that one moment he complains about having a bricked account and the next he starts bragging

[meager gyro]

ik, i experienced it first hand when nj came out

[atomic abyss]

so i do

/ban 578595260632924173

[odd root]

ruvellis#0 got banned.

[stark quiver]

bruah

[undone plover]

Anyway tldr your acc is fine. Start saving. Good luck w future events. Although it seems u dont need it

[eager mulch]

I just witnessed a murder

[meager gyro]

thank you for the 50$ i really need some mone

[boreal wagon]

that got posted in most channels btw

[meager gyro]

so how do i even start to get usable gear

[ivory linden]

opsi and research are a good source

[viscid swift]

you have, or had usable gears, you just needed to enhance them

[worldly pewter]

there are couple ways to do so
first is the beginner way which is tech boxes
u want to open only purple ones

[viscid swift]

which you could have done by farming for plates and coins from an oil capped map

[worldly pewter]

the main idea is to have at least 1 functional fleet

[meager gyro]

why only purple ones?

[worldly pewter]

because of the fact that lower ones will give u bad gear 99% of the time

[undone plover]

And u cant craft gold boxes

[soft raft]

did you forget about the gold ones

[viscid swift]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1241486787369762836/1241490892653592616/image.png?ex=6654473e&is=6652f5be&hm=bdfbd3d248909373dcb1a267675ba2578eb001e61b24d4a8558af47b78b1587c&

they had all of this at least a few days ago

[worldly pewter]

nice bricked account btw

[hallow iron]

That looks good for a newbie like me

[worldly pewter]

his account is 3 years old at least

[sharp token]

i know that they have different type but what should i priotize getting FdG gun or Champy gun?

[worldly pewter]

but doesn't have any idea what to do ingame

[atomic abyss]

champy

[sweet delta]

Fdg gun is pretty useless

[atomic abyss]

you don't really use fdg gun anymore in today's age

it's not bad, just why would you go outta ye way to get it

just use the twin 410 if you need the higher rof

[eager mulch]

instructions unclear: beehive gun

[atomic abyss]

the tech box one*

tho uh i have to ask

...is it worth crafting a 410 kai if i lack sushi?

[eager mulch]

low prio but it’s an upgrade ig

[atomic abyss]

in terms of mats?

[eager mulch]

do you use purple mats a lot

[jaunty vault]

just use fdg gun if you dont have sushi

[atomic abyss]

uh i can't remember the last time i used purple mats

[jaunty vault]

if you feel the need for a twin HE gun

[eager mulch]

I can’t remember the last time I used gold mats

[sharp token]

another question, the top secret thing from siren that can use in gearlab where can i get those?

[eager mulch]

shop, abyssals, cat nodes

[meager gyro]

any of this good?

[gloomy mesa]

who am i likely to use for longer hood or enti?

[forest palm]

Steam Catapult, Fire Control, Navel Cammo

[gloomy mesa]

asking so i can decide who to oath

[soft raft]

Both will be used for quite a while but enterprise will
Just oath whoever's waifu

[rain vine]

oath for waifu
dont oath for stats unless youre willing to spend a lot of money

[gloomy mesa]

i don't have a waifu yet, need to oath so i can finish my newbie mission

also between San Diego and Illustrious, who would you guys pick?

[atomic abyss]

san diego

illustrious can spook you in events anyways
san diego can't

[sweet delta]

Depends on your medal shop and ships

[eager mulch]

little E so bb cv

[sweet delta]

You also don't have to pick one now, just leave it for later

[gloomy mesa]

why on my medal shop?

[soft raft]

medal shop ship selection is randomized for each server

[gloomy mesa]

meaning each month a different sr ship selection category?

[elfin hollow]

Does z-46 barrage changes depending on the dd gun?

[soft raft]

each server has a different selection and said selection changes randomly every month

[gloomy mesa]

okay

[worldly pewter]

not necessarily
u can get the same rotation next month

[soft raft]

no

[gloomy mesa]

good hood and enti from this rotation

[elfin hollow]

Oh btw the best ca gun for anchorage thou

[worldly pewter]

illustrious can be obtained from the medal shop too ?

[kind slate]

Is Jean d’arc a gunboat?

[atomic abyss]

no

[forest palm]

Darc is just a support

[atomic abyss]

she's more a tank support?

[sweet delta]

She's a barrierboat

[gloomy mesa]

but guess I'm not exactly in need of another ship for my main right now

really need vanguards

[meager gyro]

for what gear should i go first?

[sweet delta]

Sam Diego is not the vanguard you really need now

[gloomy mesa]

in event shop? i went for shiny first

[sweet delta]

She's too expensive to be worth using before chapter 13

[gloomy mesa]

oh okay

[atomic abyss]

the gear for your primary fleet first really

[meager gyro]

but what excactly

[atomic abyss]

what are you even using currently

im assuming you only have 1 fleet currently

[meager gyro]

for like normal or opsi or?

[elfin hollow]

Until w13

[atomic abyss]

let's look at "normal" first...

[kind slate]

How do I get emden?

[atomic abyss]

event limited

[calm rose]

event limited, you cant get it now

[elfin hollow]

Whats the SR ship in d3 on the event map

[atomic abyss]

bearn meta

[stark quiver]

bearn meta

[soft raft]

Bearn META

[eager mulch]

bearn meta

[silk helm]

bearn meta

[atomic abyss]

[gloomy mesa]

do all ships eventuaööy get an oath skin?

[atomic abyss]

ya know it's less that you're cooked gear wise... it's more just bad decisions

at the very least, gear the ships that you ARE using

[worldly pewter]

i think cheeky cooked to him this and he doesn't want to go by it or something

[atomic abyss]

i mean the only thing really really problematic is the random z1 and aquila missing gears

[calm rose]

ideally a mlb aquila too

[atomic abyss]

and iirc you have a mlb nj and now mlb alsace too....

[viscid fulcrum]

should i UR bulin NJ or alsace?? idrk if alsace is good or nah

[eager mulch]

Alsace

[atomic abyss]

alsace unless NJ is already limit broken

[meager gyro]

nj yes

[viscid fulcrum]

ok ty ty

[soft raft]

Alsace and it's not even close
Alsace is the newest UR BB on the block while NJ is the first ever UR BB

[atomic abyss]

^try to fill up according to this

[eager mulch]

that’s not a good way to decide

saying you should mlb alsace over nj just because she’s newer is poor thinking

[sacred silo]

do I have to get all of Bearn Meta's crystals in this event or will there be another way of getting them

[cobalt rapids]

in meta shop post event

[soft raft]

They will be added to the META shop afterwards

[forest palm]

except the currency with which you'd buy those with is extremely limited, and heavily gated, so~

[jaunty vault]

so youre better off getting all her copies this event

shes free(no cube spending required) and her dupes are cheaper than normal event shop SR

[storm marsh]

It might be an obvious question but. Do child alts of ships count for the exp grind for the PR/DR ships ( for example shinano-chan getting exp for Hakuryuu)?

[eager mulch]

yes

[viscid swift]

little and muse ships yes

[forest palm]

Meta are excluded

[viscid swift]

METAs no since they're part of the META faction

[elfin hollow]

Where do you get emben

[storm marsh]

Thanks for the information

[viscid swift]

she's event limited right now, gotta wait for her event to rerun

[atomic abyss]

emden is event limited, can't get her now

[soft raft]

Event limited
Tho luckily her event is up next to rerun

[forest palm]

isn't Rondo the next rerun event

[elfin hollow]

She a bb right?

[soft raft]

CL

[viscid swift]

she's a light cruiser

[jaunty vault]

emben who

/wiki emben

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Emden
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Emden/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Emden/Gallery

May 26, 2024, 7:39 PM

[elfin hollow]

Mob boss or neutral?

[jaunty vault]

uh oh

[elfin hollow]

#bot-spam 🤓

[vale spindle]

emden can be used in either

[jaunty vault]

whats that

[vale spindle]

[silk helm]

Is there a list of upcoming events?

[soft raft]

bot commands are permissable here as long as they are being used to answer questions

[elfin hollow]

Italian event?

[forest palm]

that's Emden's event

[elfin hollow]

Emden is french right?

[soft raft]

No but here's this list I did for reruns

[viscid swift]

she's Iron Blood

[jaunty vault]

SMS/german ww1/iron blood

[soft raft]

Please tell me you're joking

[forest palm]

this is Rondo

[elfin hollow]

She look french in my defense

[meager gyro]

my state is a ship?

[silk helm]

Ohh thanks. So next one is seydlitz?

[sweet delta]

Have you considered clicking the linked wiki page and reading

[forest palm]

#gameplay-help message

[sacred silo]

why is elbings background red?

[forest palm]

that's her art

[vale spindle]

her umbrella color

[sacred silo]

oh im cooked

i thought she was a different rarity or something

[forest palm]

I'm gonna guess we're gonna get Rondo, a Raid, PR7, and then Vanguard before EN Anniversary

[stark quiver]

whats rondo

[forest palm]

brother, back read

[boreal wagon]

what is this reading you speak of

[eager mulch]

[forest palm]

[jaunty vault]

parasol

[kind slate]

Does this mean ply will get coining?

[forest palm]

nope boss

[kind slate]

nooo

[vale spindle]

/wiki rondo at rainbow's end

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Rondo_at_Rainbow's_End
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Memories/Rondo_at_Rainbow's_End
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Juustagram/Rondo_at_Rainbow's_End

May 26, 2024, 7:50 PM

[soft raft]

Agir and Haku havent even became coinable yet lol

[kind slate]

Good point

[forest palm]

parasol while uniquely different from umbrella are still interchangeable, some parasol can function as an umbrella, and some umbrella can function as a parasol, it's all in the material

[kind slate]

very knowledgeable.

[shell citrus]

Does Emden utilize the ur gun for this event well or do I put it on Shima

[forest palm]

Shimakaze doesn't want the 138

[vale spindle]

emden is fine with it

dd gun and cl gun emden perform pretty similarly

[jaunty vault]

definitely better utilisation than shima does

[shell citrus]

So blue gun on shima

[vale spindle]

yes

[alpine ether]

do u need to max out the retrofit tree to get the tier up
or can i just get the last upgrade

[cobalt rapids]

only need to path to the modernization node but if ure retroffiting a ship you should do all nodes regardless unless ure only doing it for collection %

[alpine ether]

can i get the old upgrades after getting modernization

thank you :D

[kind slate]

Is voro the best choice for plygun in w14?

[cobalt rapids]

ply but lvl her to 120 at least

[kind slate]

She’s not dev30 tho

[cobalt rapids]

is she d25?

[kind slate]

Dev24

[cobalt rapids]

get her d25 and good enough

[rustic idol]

hey guys who should i limit breaking to 4 star between London/Shrop/leander/chicago/brooklyn as a new player for my second fleet?

[cobalt rapids]

none, focuse on ur starter fleet

[kind slate]

Even for w14?

[soft raft]

are you at at least W9 yet?
If not, you shouldnt be thinking about a 2nd fleet yet

[rustic idol]

im like level 58

[soft raft]

is that your commander lvl or the average lvl of your ships?

[rustic idol]

most of my main fleet is level 100~

[viscid swift]

none of those ships are worth bothering with for a second fleet

if you really want to work on something else start looking into torpedo stat sticks for hard node

[rustic idol]

hmm 99

[cobalt rapids]

yea

[rustic idol]

my main concern is gold.. since i have the dupes

[silk helm]

why does hard mode need torpedo stat sticks?

[soft raft]

ok you're fairly close, but if those ships were your only ideas of who to use, sounds like your dock doesnt have enough good options for a 2nd fleet, if you want more detailed help, post your dock in a thread

[viscid swift]

because hard node maps have certain stat requirements you need to meet and usually torpedo is the most difficult for newer players

[soft raft]

hard mode maps often have stat requirements, with Torp being the one people dont really hard build (for the most from what I've seen so far over the course of this event)

[silk helm]

ohhh good shout

wow u guys said the same thing basically

[rustic idol]

oki will do soon ^^ thx

[gloomy mesa]

Who should I focus on for the dossier in the meta boss

[atomic abyss]

helena i suppose

[gloomy mesa]

Okay

[gritty geode]

idk if this classifies as help but how can i get gems affectively?

[atomic abyss]

3*-ing story maps

[kind slate]

Also what ship for ur dd gun for w14? Preferably out of the built ships

[vale spindle]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/common_resource#finite

[soft raft]

💳 is the most consistent way to get gems outside of comission RNG, Freebies, and 3*'ing story maps

[viscid swift]

Tai Yuan

[half plover]

why is the epic pickup ship rarer than the ur or sr for me? 😭

[atomic abyss]

or shima

[vale spindle]

same for me too just hope and pray

[gritty geode]

thanks guys

[rustic idol]

2nd fleet help

[wintry quartz]

Should i use a diff dd? Also what gears for each ship as well

[viscid swift]

seeing as your Mogador is not max limit broken right now yes

[atomic abyss]

*not max limit broken

[wintry quartz]

im not gonna use this fleet immediately im just building it up, but is there a better choice? or should i just continue with this

[elfin hollow]

Does anybody know what to equip on her?

I looked at the github tier list and it’s not been updating which is understandable but it’s the only thing I relied on, does anybody else have something similiar I can fall back on and check?

[viscid swift]

if you can max limit break Mogador maybe, maybe not

depends on what you're gonna use the fleet for exactly

[viscid swift]

pretty much the same build as just about every DD in the game with special requirements

also just so you know she's bad

[elfin hollow]

I go for enjoyment of character looks and not meta, I understand she’s not the best.

[forest palm]

you could, not that I'd recommend using either as a new player, because I doubt you'd have either MLB

[wintry quartz]

mlb?

[cobalt rapids]

you dont rly have to worry about alsaces proc

[eager mulch]

is brennus aux gun or torps

[cobalt rapids]

torps

[eager mulch]

I sleep

[novel condor]

mlb = max limit break

[glacial heath]

is 550mm Torpedo Mount (Twin + Triple) good?

[cobalt rapids]

good on manual

[eager mulch]

unless you’re bad at manual

[sweet delta]

I manual with magnetic torps

[eager mulch]

I manual with my hands

[cobalt rapids]

average

[eager mulch]

she’s ok

[little tree]

Hows the event meta ship ?

[cobalt rapids]

she's ok

[little tree]

Dang are nethier worth upgrading?

[cobalt rapids]

depends on ur dock

[soft raft]

"Decent/good but better options exist"
Much like most SR METAs

[cobalt rapids]

brennus is just slightly better portland so only rly if ure starting second fleet and u need a secondary tank
bearn is ok but depends what u have

[little tree]

Well not a whole lot since i have 0 golden Bullins and was looking at the meta ship

I have 1 good fleet atm

was just wondering if they were a gernally good for an invetment

[cobalt rapids]

they are transitional but transitional is sometimes needed