#gameplay-help
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Do you care about being spoiled? ||Foch was not, but Bearn appeared||
why is bischmark so far away
Ngl it doesn't really matter, I just threw together three applicable ships together
because she only released last year
I hope soyuz gets a rerun I missed her cause I stopped playing
Because her original run was nearly exactly about one year ago
Well you are gonna have to wait probably 2 years for her rerun
In roughly at least 2 years she will
still cant believe i missed ulrich by mere weeks 
She's possibly the next UR added to the perma pool so dw, but we don't know when 
what does it take to not be considered a new player
Idk what emote to use to express my disappointment
I hate how long it is for reruns
when i know what guns are good when i look at my depot
I'd literally be in college by then so I won't know. Someone ping me in 2 years please
probably her and shima
nah that's Shimakaze, and before that we have Aquila
Oh right shima isn't added yet 
didn’t nj and shinano get added at the same time though
they did, but that was because they didn't want to have Shinano on rate up for free for the next few months
Yes, but that doesn't really guarantee that the next ones will be added in pairs tho
we will have new players rolling perma for shima 
Well Cheeky's response makes more sense than mine actually 
Aware 
shima?
Shimakaze
/wiki Shimakaze
#bot-spam
seen too many AL shimakaze recently in wows
shes allright, shes no bischmark
I feel like the next ur is a se cv
#al-general for copium is that way
is there a pattern to the types of ship released?
no
Can guarantee that they're all ships
unzen would like a word
how can we earn 300 more UR voucher for another copy of mogador?
read the pins

alsace > Soyuz anyways
huh
I'm not surprised
IJN next Event, trust me bro
preface that faction fleets are bad and for what content
Wait do you mean Iron blood or Crimson Axis cuz you combined both 
Cuz a Crimson Axis one could be functional
how many crystals are needed for max lb on a meta ship? 4?
Crimson Blood?
ty
I’m more of an Azur Union guy
idk, which ever are the germans one
for what content
and ig for event farming
What does efficiency mean for choosing guns? I want to replace the leftmost gun on my Guam but I only have the monthly core shop for better guns atm
The core shop gun is not worth buying
the best fleet for event faring is 6 ships that need leveling
efficiency is just a damage multiplier
how do y'all keep the coins n oil up? i feel like i'm hitting rock bottom and barely getting along if i wanna consistently play
Efficiency is from the ship's weapon slot, not from the weapon
farming W12+, not having much to spend coins on anymore also helps tbh
what's different about w12+ other than the amt of coins it gives? i'm guessing it's optimized to spend less oil too or something
W12+ just gives more coins per oil spent, simple really
figures, thanks
well, typically already the oil we get is enough for hours, many people feel like it's too much oil. For others, as previously said your oil needs drop a lot, and exp wise you're limited by cog chip income.
for events, you just save oil in your mails, they act as your emergency bank
Aside of mogador and bearn anything worth getting from event shop?
if you really want more oil, heh well it is something people do whale on
the gear, chips, arrays, PR Prints, etc
The rainbow 138.6 DD gun is usually the best DD gun
Are the torps any good?
not particularly
About as good as non-magnetic torps can get
is the safe to scrap site still up to date? i remember using that a while back
yes
grab in priority any event exclusive stuff, in this case the two gear pieces too. Cognitive stuff is really nice for mid/lategame players who play a lot, and the golden eagle union gearboxes are somewhat nice for early game players
as for the new torps, only thing i can say is that pvp doesn't like them
Don’t forget the PR/DR prints
Oh btw, some other guy was asking about the 2-3 torps if they were good and I answered they aren't really good in auto and should just use mags, but then he asked about the pattern thing is how do you answer that 
you link to cn wiki or you record the pattern on your phone yourself and post that
So I panicked and didn't answer 
issok people stop answering for lots of reasons
Should I try to get the second mogador or just lb her with bulins and buy the other event stuff
We liked them better before they were fixed
I would prioritize seccond Moagdor dupe over most stuff
Bulin drought
bearing in mind it will cost you at least 24k event points though
for newbies, you'll likely have UR bulin shortages. I'd strongly encourage you to buy them over things like say pr prints tbh
tbh i don't value pr prints that much compared to other gph people
Idk if it’s just a newbie thing, the extra URs + reruns are straining pcore
pcore?
protocore
well a lot of are impatient as f*ck
Wait it’s not pcore what’s it called
Ppl call them spec core, Specialized Core if you want the full name
though to be fair Pr7 doesn't drop for another month and a half or so
congrats cheeky for featuring near the top of the colelction leaderboard
Is pr6 FS this year?
thank you
prbably next year?
should be this august
oh i confused it with coining didn't i
Still waiting for agir 
The Ministry of Big Balans Boats says she's doing fine, doesn't need a Fate Sim
Give her a not so good one for the sake of it
what does the ministry say about petropavlovsk
when mutsu buff
Petro is underperforming and needs buffs
is there any use for purple tech boxes besides opening and scrapping the stuff inside? i have 500+ of each type
if you don't need the gear then ignoring them is fine
gotcha
good
BB UR Good, DD UR also good but it's getting fixed
meaning shes geting nerfed?
no she's getting buffed
No, she's actually getting buffed, check pins
FdG is still good
powercreeping doesn't make a ship bad though
Fdg has been powercrept
Like FdG and NJ are "powercrept" but they are still really good ships
Whether or not that's particularly relevant to you depends on what you have
Considering all their upgrades are event limited

sadge... I need laffey II
You'll get her for christmas
2025 tho
we don't know if she'll rerun then though, could be a bit sooner could a bit later

Yk2 was 2022 right
when was superimposition
when will bismark ziwei come
She already ran a year ago
Though Warspite in Tier 2 now.... I still use her

hey guys what does it REALLY do, the enigmata D? its a call to arms D reward. other than beeping in the start of the battle.
it make funny noise
ik that i missed it
and here I thought its a requirement for recruiting a nerfed sired :/
well the only actual use is to activate challenge mode in this event's EX
oh well
i.e. not relevant to about 99% of players
Do you get something extra for doing that?
leaderboarding I guess?
Oh extra points 
just EX points though not event points
ohh hea how to enable sp/ex
Beat D3 
i ahve no idea(probably forgor)
pain i got exams im stil in b1
Uuuh why are you in B1 tho
you can skip A/B if you can do hard
You can go straight to C then D, if you can do them ofc
wait what??
To double check
If you don't trigger the challenge mode
This event EX has no special gimmick or anything, right?
Just a relatively normal boss you have to kill?
Weee I just did that
Just press [Hard] Button
kill me
I just threw rainbows at the problem and didn't look so probably
all events can do that though
Can SSR 533mm quintuple magnetic torpedo mount be trasition to UR one?
bro I DIDINt KNOW THEm DURING LAFFy II AS WELLLLL
well now you do
yea
Got a friend who can't find the memories section in the new UI. Tried to help myself but I can't find it either.
wasted too much oil
Nope, only Quad one

iirc the preq for rainbow quints is quint non-mag or quad mag
is this good?
Though it really isn't that much of an upgrade from what I've heard
The VF-17 Pirate Squad skill says “When the carrier using this aircraft launched an airstrike”
Does that mean Kearsarge won’t activate the skill since she’s not a carrier?
Quad gold mags or 533 quint non-magnetics
Alright, that's good
Was looking for an adequate testing subject
I don't see a healer for a mob fleet and that second fleet looks underleveled
unicorn where
also no better ship to use over bismarck and kaga?
those dont look mlb either
Wait you stopped playing, came back for Laffii and Guam then stopped again? 
ohh i do ahve her
Cuz the only newish ships I see are those 2
level 110 somthin
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleetbuilding back to fleetbuilding 101
i prob should make a super condensed fleet building guide
oo ur right fleet 2 takes some dmg
Do you need help with your fleets or something?
by the look of those comps he probably does 
:/
If so, post your dock in a thread sorted by level and leave out commons and rares 
time to ask for fleethelp with only commons and rares
Ranger + Cassin or Downes, take it or leave it
hold up
but bogue
I suggest you guys knock it off

replace kaga with unicorn
healer where
swap around richelieu and warspites positions
yea
and i realised it now after playing
you need them? I mean D3 is a breeze though?
well you're just wasting XP anyway with 125 ships
Well most stuff is a breeze with rainbow spam so w/e
I could probably run D3 with 12 lv120 commons and rares if that was your bar for needing a healer
Why not use ships that need levels to farm easy stuff like D3
how much of the yelo crystalss are given in D3?
180 per run
180
without high plan?
Yeah
Yes
man i grinded 30 of A3 for no shit
Well, shit happens, atleast you know that you can skip to C/D stages without needing to do A and B
yea
So at the end of the day you learned something 

can these fleets do w13-1 - 13-4?
no
Don't think so
what do i need to change?
Severely lacking AA
have 2 bb in mob, which means no AA, and youre vanguards also have no AA, youre leaking planes into your backline fast
should i use 2 cv/cvl?
Honestly, in the case of fleet 1, before we start worrying about AA, I'd first worry about those levels and that non-MLB, non-fixed Mogador 👀
yes or 3 cv like how i did
Now that I am an Agir haver, which of her skills should I prioritize
Already used one gold yellow book
all of them, doesnt matter what you start with
👍
All of them but I guess you can get Blue > Yellow = Red
Need help with building boss fleet for SP
i should worry about the mob fleet and boss fleet is fine?
Second fleet has some AA concerns as well
both fleets are concerning AA wise, as well as the non maxed ships and they are all severely underleveled, and lack AA even in front line
what ship that high in AA?
guam, sandy retro(if u already have her retro, if not dont) , juneu retro, laffey2
cheshire
having good AA isn't just having high AA stat
Skills also come into place
Does Shimanto use Sword or Crossbow?
Plymouth 125 has an AA of 341, it's good but I wouldn't call it high
hmmm ic
incomparison Shimanto and Guam both have about 100 AA higher, better AA gun efficiencies and AA skills
Any CL that have High AA except for Sandy retro and guam cause I don't have guam
(not forgetting Guam also has twin AA mounts)
Juneau, Isuzu
Reno counts I guess?
any reason this needs to be a CL
theres also helena i guess she worked well for me
if you have a meme go to #off-topic
i dont
Helena is another case of good AA but not high, after retro
helena good 
dock space pain
Just so you know stickers/gifs are not allowed in gph or mods will
, that's why nntktt said that 

cuz mods arent no lifes who keep track of discord every minute
depends on the mod really
well true
Does anyone have a quick guide for which role each UR ship released so far fits best as?
The Tier List site I use is missing that info on a LOT of them
Which tierlist are you using?
It's a bit tricky in the case of URs because most of them can fill multiple roles
ohh yea anyone know how to get cubes without pay,
Play consistently, AL is pretty generous
alsace will be in EX for BB and t0 or EX for mogador cuz she isnt performing as well
daily reset is in some time (yea) so other than taht
You can play like 20~30m every day for dailies and get 167 guaranteed cubes every month + whatever you get from commissions
do hard mode 3 times a day and then do weekly missions, login everyday
will i get enough to get the current UR event build
Just a general guide would help, honestly
Like, is Guam best as a boss fleet ship, or mob? Is she a tank, off-tank, DPS? That sort of stuff
How many cubes you got?
i ahve her but i forgor
But it also depends on RNG ofc
0 i pulled
Guam can tank, has superb AA, and can competently be in either mob or boss
Event ends in 18 days, so probably about 100 cubes?
Trying to get help specifically with Guam, Unzen, Kronshtadt and Sovetsky Soyuz
you wont be able to pity unless you use real money
Which is not recommended
ic k
i wont
Gems to Cubes ratio is awful even for whales 
kronk good but not as good bc better options exist now, soyuz rly good for med/light, unzen very good dps CA, guam very good AA and performs really well both mob and boss
guam and kronstadt are both tank, guam in particular having high aa
soyuz is dps, unzen is also dps
But I guess for now try to just do 3 daily builds and then dump everything at the final day of the event

Is Soyuz better with a mono-North fleet, or fine with multi-nation?
Also do I pair them with specific types, or just go hogwild?
is helena good
Ask Riceist 
there isnt a mono faction fleet thats better than mixed, just use good ships with good ships
Helena is good until she isn't
riceist would say “fuck helena” and I would have to agree
pretty much like reload tech
Don't take these descriptions as necessarily indicating which ones to prioritise Bulins for, if that is an issue
-Guam as above: #gameplay-help message
-Kronshtadt is a very solid tank and has considerable damage for a CB, although lacking in AA penalises her in content where that is a concern. I'd be more inclined to put her in mob in most cases. In OpSi, she should be off the main BB fleet to grant them spread reduction via cross-fleet, and can main tank for a CV fleet in a pinch (although there are better options, like Guam, for this role)
-Unzen has nihilistic damage potential for a vanguard, consisting of both torpedoes and guns (more torpedoes, but her guns are still very strong). She is actually quite solid defensively for a DPS, but can nonetheless have survivability issues in high difficulty content. Because of her high damage, she is often used for serious bossing, but because she has double preload and concurrently loading torpedoes, she can be used for clearing mobs, and especially fast clearing them in OpSi.
-Soyuz has very good damage and her main barrage is essentially physically unavoidable, and inflicts both a damage taken debuff and a slow, which allows her to provide potent support on top. She is able to play with a pair of CVs or with other BBs in bossing situations depending on your preferences. She can perform perfectly well in a mob fleet, but the specifics of her kit see her shine the most in serious bossing situations (at least if we restrict our discussion to PvE).
honestly Kronshtadt's spread reduction buff is overstated, but there's less and less reason to use her for boss tank
I will be sure to convey to my BBs that spread reduction is overstated when they all miss wildly next time
any news when is mogador patch be on EN?
You either end up ditching Anchor, Kron, or Brest these days when Ops building
Brest might come back for Alsace
you'll just have to use Kronshtadt in a different fleet if you want the crossfleet
you have 3 shells with AOE that land randomly within the spread area
you're not just going to have 3 shells that fly off randomly and hit nothing at all with or without spread reduction
I choose to ditch Brest, and Anchor, and relegated Kron to mob
Feel free to ditch Kron if that's what you believe
no UR challenge
ddgs and harbin gets the biggest benefit in this event, because of the new gun
you alive
I'm not ditching her for now because I like the crossfleet barrage 
Too bad there's only one Twin 138
Harbin gets more than DDGs, by a bit
Does it compete with Unzen, and Hind
shrug I only did some napkin math for Yuudachi vs DDG vs Harbin, and I only considered guns
Sounds messy
just some simple gun eff and FP + RLD considerations
I always call napkin math, "messy", not because I think it's wrong, but that it is something hastily done, and thorough research can be done 
Guy, does anyone feel off about Mogador? Does she suppose to be that paper or am I missing something?
Fix coming soon, probably 

How many points are usually needed for the portrait?
for the event? just check call to arms in the event
the potrait tells you
2800
Well at least after the fix No. 2 in CN, mog is fine
she's a working glass cannon now, not just glass
whew saved from first tier N UR
as DDs are meant to be

So does Mog no longer yeetus deletus herself on CN?
still not a fan of her kit tho
she can still die in rather specific sorts of spams I think, they had a vid of her being yeeted in Hiryuu META, but that was towards the end when she jumped into the beam spam with around 30%
but she should survive most encounters more reliably now
This is a unique form of ramming, ya?
Not anymore, except in hiryuu meta, seems still bugged or something, but almost everyone deletes herself in hiryuu meta so it's fine.
Overall skill one is no longer negative > benifit
I just consider her a gun version of Shimakaze
her damage still seems kinda questionable tho
before i buy it, is the event UR gun good? i know it's a UR so it should be good, but like i just wanna be sure
she kinda needs her statstick to be big enough to be impactful
It very much is
We still haven't gotten the patch in EN yet have we
Like more HP?
fp
Ah
good enough answer for me lol. im not very meta smart, so could i please get recommended which sorts of ships would do best with it?
It's weekend so i doubt we'll get it anytime soon
the barrage numbers look kinda low, and shes got no torps
Harbin, DDGs, any DD that depends on FP
awesome, tysm
Tbh Mogador is more like an addon to alsace to me. Dps is nice but only excels against light
why only light
Hind and unzen
Oh, so Mogador is currently bug? ty very much
more like not fixed
Not bug but badly implemented or not tested before release, but she's getting fixed
maybe if she can utilize her debuff on bosses
theres value to be found
yes
pro tip, buy every event gear you can. worse case, it is meta gear and you need to wait for 2 year while your peers get that dupe
Is it worth spending my gold bulins on friedrich carl?
sure
she is a good tank so yes
shes pretty good if youre lacking tanks
but depends on who else you have
Depends on what other tanks you got but she's good nonetheless
Is she good on higher maps? (I'm on world 12 attacking world 13)
From reading her skill, it seem like they want to simulate how Mogador played in WoWs in AL but forgot to reduce the dmg dealt on her while she's rushing
youre not gonna use her over CBs in higher maps
has mog buffs been finalized yet?
I see, what is harmony buff btw? It doesn't explain on her skill.
additional barrage
does bearn meta crystal will really be on the meta shop after the event ends?
no word of additional changes so far
Ok thx.
cuz I remember pamiat and u-something crystal already on the meta shop during the event just locked until after the event
the barrage is w/e and realistically half of it misses but it fires every time she fires her main gun so the damage gets accumulated
In SP stages, do i need to clear every fleet before proceeding to the boss
Waiting, comission, events and gems
seven (7) fights before boss appears
realistically all of it hits except when enemies are dead
lol no

So who do i trust
yourself

no one here
Hi no one glad you came
How do the tornadoes function in Bern M's skill 
i havent came yet
i'll help ypu
let me borrow sara

you guys are lucky i did not get gph mod
you didnt deserve it
sadge

i'll be your running mate for the 2025 campaign
if either of you guys get elected i want you guys to ban me from here
i can help you with that
Which gear/gears that worth to get?
/protocore
gph ladies and gentlemen, god I love this channel
are the returnee packs for 10k coins worth it
meh
what does it give
what does it take
what does it mean
Help people, I'm returning to Azur Lane JP but it no longer lets me log in with Twitter, but on Twitter when I went to see it it was still linked, do you know how I can fix it or in any case link my account so as not to lose my progress?
Ummm I'm sorry to tell you but I think they removed Twitter/X login
didn't AL remove twitter binds lol
yes
cos elon was being a dick
they definitely did for JP at the very least
sorry mate, AL has removed twitter binds due to twitter things
you'll need to contact JP customer support
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Akashi's_Homecoming_Campaign In case you are still wondering 
Will you know what the JP server support is?
Thing is can you contact JP support in English? 
nope
cs@azurlane.net that's the email but you gotta do in in Japanese sadly
cs@azurlane.net or mail form on the official site
they don't communicate in English either so glhf
yeah^
gpt has your back
AI do be revolutionary
Best of luck to you my guy 
Just make sure when you use google translate you double check it 
just learn moonlanguage 
no
thanks, I'll try it :y
gun based DDs like Mogador, the An Shans
Moggies, Harbin, DDGs
hm, what about CLs?
Harbin is a CL
harbin is a CL
i mean someone like helena
b
no
they don't have DD main guns
c
i dont have harbin yet
you can use it on Helena's secondary gun but you'll squeeze more out of it as a main gun
oof back
so maybe like San Diego retrofit
you best dd gun slot
what about junaeu
if you don't have a better DD gun slot
helena's dd gun slot is like 65% eff?
you could but i highly doubt juneau is the best option
Uhmm idk if this gameplay related or not but what are the "special" interaction on alsace skin
ender has pretty high expectations here
try checking with #al-general , youtube or reddit 
^

oh please anyone of the starters would be better...
except maybe javelin
Probably Youtube that's where I watch L2D Showcases 
ayas also a starter
JP exclusive tho
Is it worth To make my brennus level 120?
eva tech
Any other options?
She's currently only 105
My only other tank is portland
bren isnt really a great tank
Oo Im Using her as tank
shes worse than port as a tank
She seems tankier than a not retrofit portland
She is a tank
aaa she good?
Portland dies in stages that she survive tho
probably is
why are you even using non retrofit portland
She's ok
Cause I'm day 7
garden variety tank CA
why are you even raising brennus then
portlands entire kit is behind her retro
bren is more dps than tank
a new player should not raise brennus because of the gold bulins she takes away from the backline
In Project TB, what happens if you don't get the required stats within the weeks?
barely a dps
Cause I didn't follow guide to a tee
well you might have a longer road ahead of you then
So brennus is worth to 120 or no
well if he isn't raising any other SR ships it's fine I guess 
as tech fodder yes
I mean you're already up to 105 might as well
Is she a worse tank than a retrofit portland?
yes
yes
Is the UR Libre gun good for anything? I mean we have the gear lab guns
U got her build and compare them?
Is there an EX fight fleet rec?
best DD gun in the game outside aoa spamming
Hard to believe ngl
How does
Musashi, Vanguard, Zwei
NJ, Alsace, Soyuz
As anti Heavy and anti Light/Med BB Fleets sound?
most people sleep on how much eHP Portland retrofit has 
MeBot is probably asleep to ask him
they are almost the same so its not much worse don't get me wrong
Whats the main gun for Alsace?
portland is a very good example of showing that rarity =/= quality
triple 406mm mk6
her dr isnt consistent
It's just that portland kai performs her role fairly well for her cost
Which is cheap as far as cheapness goes
So brennus tank similar to portland?
less
tbh i ahve been seeing this and people use portland a lot, may i ask why
slightly worse
I'd say Brennus and Portland are still in around similar ballpark for eHP, if you haven't spent the bulins I'd stick with Portland, but you've already raised anyway so whatever
good ship good 
cheap, good, required for beginner missions to get a free SR
but higher dmg I guess 
it should be quite a bit worse
Hmm ig a retrofit portland is just better... Mine isn't retrofit so I believe everyone here
the key thing is that she is part of the beginner missions
ohh yea i ahvent that begiiner missions still
Plus you also need her retro for Rookie missions
why would you make your journey to a free SR more difficult after all
considering that enterprise and hood are some of the best ships in the game even till this day
Portland retrofit is certainly weaker than brennus. Portland is just cheap and needed for rookie
Cause I play game for fun...its fun guys don't nag me too much it's annoying
What if I want a gun to spam aoa, which gun is it then, for dds
Depends on the DD
76mm or the 100kai, depends
soon just need bullin
Should be obvious from my profile pic then as to who I want
Ya but just build Portland as well since you'll need 2 tanks anyways and rookie task too
Yeah got it, Im still raising her for mob fleet but judging from everyone here, brennus is worse portland tankiness wise, so maybe brennus goes to mob later
I'd say Brennus's DR is more consistent than Portland, but Portland has 11 more EVA 
Then you put CL ply gun or possibly mogadors gun
CN dalaos say bren is basically a Eugen with 2 guns lol
This one?
i see her as a worse roon
You can still use Brennus as an off tank tho (right most position) so don't worry you didn't screw up
eugen is exaggurating
Eugen probably tankier but yeh
you can just say shes a portland with barrages 
eugen should be significantly tankier
yes, it's a commonly used gun for a large majority of BBs even in end game
If you only use one in the fleet, brennus is tankier. If you use both for some reason, Portland goes in front
Good starter tank and 1 precious ca eva tho 
big pog
Is brennus tankier than a retro portland?? Did u build her cause Im actually omega curious about this now
Also meow
what's the lowest oil mob for SP? uni + harbin sometimes die on 3 star no ammo
where are these numbers even coming from
According to mebotehp research, brennus is 97% of Portland tankiness probably without even considering shields
Which numbers eHP? probably MeBot? idk
generally we use maths to approximate tank, but cause they are maths and not testing you want to give some leeway to the estimate
id never trust mebot numbers
your loss then
玄虚小圣
My uni Anshan has had no problems
you could make the argument both ways
Ehm so now that I got Alsace and the rest of the event ships, should I continue to do pulls or save up?
can also use emden since she ignores out of ammo if you are really desperate 
portland kai is slightly tankier
but brennus is likely to end battles faster
1 pull on light daily instead
remind me xuanxu doesn't do tier list anymore?
uni survive the suicide boats?
Does Otto prefer CL gun or DD gun actually? Forgot she has that feature
dd gun unless the cl guns are rainbow or her own specific gun

and even then if the dd gun is rainbow it can be better than not ply gun
What suicide boats?
personally my issue is that you need to raise portland retrofit regardless of the situation
scaling upwards to later stages you wouldnt use either
Ok got it, I trust math
I will work on retrofit portland and move her to main fleet afterward, currently still running brennus cause she legit feels tankier than an unretrofitted portland
if you're brennus is already raised, sure i think it's fine to use her
but portland has to be raised regardless of what you do with brennus
the submarine that resurface and goes suicide
Because she is
well she is tankier than an unretrofit portland
a lot of things are probably
looks like a sawblade
Only tank one per battle, uni very much has enough HP to tank them
shes just a shitty roon, we know how roon works and how portland compares to roon
so stick to brennus
you'll want to come back to port eventually though 
well I guess my uni has skill issue 
ohh yea whats the tierlist website name for azure lane
correct, he only does datamining/ship evaluation and sometimes fleet building, but not tiering them anymore.
was he the old team?
i wanna see it
Meow meow
his tier list was better than jinghao 
the irony
guys?
why are you using both even
Yeah the oldest. probably cuz he's married now
This the plygun?
like the old nga one from like 2 years back?
Cuz I can't make a consistent anti light CV
...then make a consistent anti heavy CV?
What is her specific gun just curious
There is
Chat should i mlb nj or slowly mlb alsace
Oh
oh nvm i got confused
I meant the felix gun from pr6
that list was respectable, current one is just full of sus
your NJ is 2lb right?
NJ first
depends on what other URs you got, but if your NJ is LB2 like Ender says finish her first
both of them are same class technically and both have the cl gun skill stuff 
Okay 
better a mlb NJ then a 2lb NJ and a 1lb alsace
i think its a twin 150 but im not exactly sure
Pretty sure the french cl gun from fools scales works great on otto as well
i think dd guns will perform better at that point
cause twin 100 rainbow good who would have guessed
and now we got this new rainbow gun too
Btw on this conversation, how do i want to build my vanguard fleet?
I'm assuming an off tank position brennus is used for mob fleet since boss fleet probably want full dmg right?
Currently I'm just running 1 tank with 2dps and pray the last slot survive lol
that works
I'm glad you asked, that's what samheart's ™️ Fleetbuilding 101 is for https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleetbuilding 
But seriously give it a read pretty helpful
Most of the time last slot survives, but yes for boss Fleets you either do tank DpS DpS or tank support DpS, Plymouth counts as both DpS and support
also Sam senpai, samvaluation when?
i am an idiot, how do i limit break kearsarge?
Dev level the blueprint things, take note that they still need the levels 10, 30, 70 for dev 10, 20, and 30
will she also need bulins
no
Research/Shipyard ships need Blueprints instead of Bulins to "limit break" or rather get stars
Ok thanks
Tho as a newbie you probably don't wanna start with PR6 tho @exotic flax
Hello, just wanted to ask, is it normal the naming of the mission ¿?¿?
yes
Yep
yea thats just how event writing works don't worry about it
Never seen that, guess is for the lore, i havent checked what happens in the event yet
It's just rot19
they want it to seem like the thing got hacked or something for lore purposes idk lore so i can't say for sure
wait how is fubuki tier 0
What
which fubuki
If you do want to know, it's just simple Caesar cipher
I think he means Kawakaze
senran kagura
or the Senran Kagura one
Is 12-4 still good?
I'm not a newbie, i'm just soo slow with PR I forgot how they worked
Oh ok. Good to know, thought the game had a bug or something, still seeing the oil jpg like grow 200% when selecting missions so, yeah.
Like for farming? Pretty much the go to farm map together with 12-1
TELL ME HOW
I see 
shes just really good
In Ops with AvP , yorkii, and enty. Who's the Vanguard usually used?
Exp Farming right?
then why is mine sitting stud at level 70
12-1 slightly higher exp, 12-4 higher coin
limit break...
the issue with gold rarity bbs is that ur bbs are outright better
and theres a lot of ur bbs in the game currently, so yea...
prio to mlb between: 1lb uvh, 1lb laffii, 1lb kron, & 0 lb alsace? Have all URs post-implac as well as pr4/pr5
focus one to mlb first
How many ships do you get for 3x sortie, 2x oil, for 12-1/12-4?
bru i ahve no excersise left
How many UR bulins do you have
oh and 1lb mog after event
id go laff ii or kron personally 
4
probably laff ii since theres a lot of cbs in research
Who should i mlb? or should i wait for a rerun?
maybe i should wait to see how they buff mog? or is the damage reduction fix all they'll do
How many approx?
Around 30-40 maybe?
Alsace if you'll have four bulins soon and stopped building on event banner
About 30~35?
That's all urs you have? In this case, i recommend alsace
ty guys
I'll get second bullin from 30k points on event and can buy the rest
Yeah
u can buy 7 UR bulins + 1 from event so you can mlb both
If you can afford everything then what are you waiting for 
Well.... If you have that many cores, mlb them all
Why not just MLB everything you got if you can 
Use the second copy of Mogador if you want

You'll certainly have enough for next UR also
Because i don't know if i should save some bullins for a rerun that is top priority
Dw you'll have enough for Vanguard even if you spend all your spec core rn
Sadly i'm missing most of the UR
Tho you should consider using Mogs's copy to Limit Break
So the best way is buying the second mogador and mlb both?
she reruns when she wants to
we don't have any sort of timeline for when she will
Manjuu is free
are there any other meta fights that needs fleets besides rep
Wichita 
All jokes aside, Idts
where can I get more elite bullin? 
guys should i actualy level her upp?
thank you
I guess I'm gonna wait tmrw then
Isn't your team already decent tho?
Don't get too fed up on her just because she's Tier 0 on ECTL 
Like she's a good ship but don't dump all your resources on her out of the sudden, but it's your choice at the end of the day
Also she needs her augment which is like 20k coins to craft iirc.
Edit: seems like her augment is not even craftable so that's a bummer 
aside of enty and hood, who else is interesting to buy from the medal shop?
Actually, that's a good point
If you don't have her augment already, forget about using her
Her augment is not craftable, so if you don't already have it, unfortunately that's tough luck
How long is the gap between NJ rerun and Shina+NJ in Perma again? 8mo?
Like 7 months iirc
Hmm dankee
From a use point of view or from a tech point of view? There are plenty of interesting ones from the latter perspective.
From the former, there are several who can be used in various contexts, some being more widely applicable than others... off the top I'd name Sirius, San Diego, and Nagato as being useful to have for what they offer in several contexts, although none of them demand immediate attention or resource investment if your goal is merely progression to the good farming areas of campaign.
Wait it's only Jan?
Nj perma doesn't really count does it
it was 211 days in between rerun and perma pool
Wait was it nj or shinano first
Shina first
NJ last RR was on June 21st 2023 and they added them to perma pool on Jan 18th 2024
like, mid 2022
and there was a huge gap between shinano and njs reruns
211 days is 6.9 months (nice)
Alright so nj doesn't count
Anyways further speculating goes to #al-general
I see
thanks a lot for the explanation.
Because only her is added early, the rest of her event is not added yet
because we aren't
Just in case it goes to speculating territory
Oh 
I was just asking since I can't see anything about it in the wiki my bad
sounds like someones job to update it
right nagami
wiki team died with this server
also hoshi stop mind reading goddamnit
About what
I'm guessing adding to the Wiki that NJ and Nano were added to the perma pools back in Jan 18th 
That's what patch notes page for
To their notes or something idk what they want
I'm just gonna go to bed
have a great night gph
Sounds too niche because all other ships doesn't have that
Just ctrl + f patch notes page
Oh one more thing, whats the cut off for wishing well?
before princeton
It's in ingame gametips
what do you mean by cutoff
I presume that is what you are asking
How good are Alsace and Mogador
im not gonna build her now, just future plans
i cant build now cus i got exams i am only getting the event URs ang then gonna come abck after exams
Alsace quite good, Mog uhhh need to wait a bit more for patch
alsace appears to be as good as Soyuz and co aka very strong
mogador appears to be the more average UR DD
Might wanna give this one a read too #gameplay-help message Now I'm off to bed 
ok gn
except she isnt gacha
fine event UR
Idk how good Soyuz is so can u tell me how good Alsace is compared to Biz zwei and NJ?
both are way better than NJ
Word cause when i once asked about musashi i was told musashi better than nj and worse than biz zwei so thats the scale i use now
well imo zwei is still the best BB but its not that simple really
We think mogador will be better than yuu and shima?
musashi, zwei, alsace and soy are all insanely strong
ye bz is pretty hard to contest
Zwei is generally the best ur bb in terms of bosses
however, musashi easily has the upperhand when it comes to mobs
Yeah my ur bbs are pretty much only nj, bzwei, and fdg
who should be a higher limit break priority, guam, uvh or mogador, all at 5th star, i got to mention that i finished w15 with 3 stars and mainly bossing is my thing, i guess uvh then mog then guam?
Around the same standard we expect
She's not Laffey II
how many UR BBs do you have at mlb
She will shove FdG to mob fleet imo
lowkey would do guam before uvh
i would do uvh first because of bisko2
i have kronk agir azuma and brest, i thought uvh would be more important due to her 3rd mg, guam only gains main gun efficiency and fleet
Okay cool, yeah i missed laffey II sadly
Just to be sure, especially from you ancient ones, did they ever give out build tickets except UR reruns?
no
guam is used more than uvh, especially if you already have most other UR BBs
where would i even use guam, i finished the campaign
all reruns except collabs give build tickets
i find uvh a bit more useful due to having her niche vs some bosses
if you find uvh more useful than mlb her
Ouh forgot about that, danke goober

goober doign gph mod things
guam is used in opsi as main tank
you can also use her if you ever want to farm w14+ main campaign
no reason to use her in opsi
no reason not to
and if he already finished campaign pre guam, no need guam
yeah just completely ignore what i said
i ignore whats pointless
and in your great opinion, what's less pointless uvh or guam
i can see uvh being more useful for some random gimmick meta battle for challenge mode
guam is just useless
lol
after eos 
@whole crypt yo so i did it again today and i didnt pass it as well,is there something still wrong with me team or im just unlucky
w15 hard first🏃♂️
do we even have w14 hard
nop
I don't
would be fun to see
lets say w16 needs guam
he will have more than enough time to mlb her at that point
Just W14 with higher level enemies 
lvl135 enemies
mog is meant for nothing
if you want to think about intent, you need to think about the release version
do you really think they had any intent at all except lmao random bullshit go
wouldn't be the first time 
Test
Test
yeah but usually the random bullshit isnt something you slap UR tag on and push to release in CN anni out of all places
you probably need a real tank or more levels, just keep grinding D3 for now I guess 
fair thanks for helping with my team,i think i should fully limit break my kronshnadt?
(i just fully limit break my shimakaze since im gonna still user her)
she's the closest you have for a proper tank, but I don't know how many bulins you can afford
i can afford two i think
not enuff tbh
what other tanks are good other than kronshnadt?
of the lineup you had there wasn't anyone close
I couldn't see your Portland so I have no idea what you did with her
oh,i retire her.cause i didnt know she was good
...
Did you even finish her newbie missions?
well if you have XP packs it's probably cheaper to raise her again than wait for bulins and LB Kronshtadt, but if you already did your rookie missions then you're not getting much out of it
i did
if you haven't leveled her to 120 I guess you could still do it for tech but Portland's tech is pretty meh
is brennus good
garden variety SR CA
which is to say
good but nth special
What does it cost to get a UR to 125, wiki says 150 for SR but thr game says 100 for unicorn, I'd really like to get her to 125 but I want to have enough when vanguard comes round soon
i like her design but i just started so im running portland z23 helena
unicorn isn't a UR tho
Unicorn is an elite base
theres no point subbing any of them out for her right
and cost changes by rarity
retrofits use their base rarity for costs
I see
not at the moment at least
when will we get mythical rarity?
Brennus is just going to be roughly equivalent of Portland so 
should i start worriyng about building a second fleet rn if im at 4-3 or just focus on grinding story
w9 is where you can consider looking into a 2nd fleet
the earliest you should care about second fleet is ch9
you can probably push 12/13 with 1 fleet
why are you even assuming we will even get one
one of the guides reccomended grinding 4-2 for gear should i do that or keep pushing
ectl walkthrough is out of date

okay
not before you LB her
no, because you will not be able to max limit break her yet
I looked but I had some complications come up so I'm double checking now
why did bro know exactly what i was referring to
also is there a in depth guide i can follow besides samhearts vague one
Probably commonly referenced here
sam's one is as detailed as it gets for guides
so ask here
I've read through it myself for shits and giggles
sam's compendium newbie guide(which is actually rice's) is about as concise as it gets for now because there's really not much worth your attention before ch9
okay whos a good backline to run with unicorn and penny
if you want to farm for it Saratoga drops in 4-1 I think
Enterprise will be available either medal or when you finish rookie missions
what do you have even
if you don't mind paying Saratoga is right there, but I wouldn't break F2P just for Saratoga
im not really investing anyt in any units or gear too much because im not sure what overinvesting means in this game yet
as long as you don't trash limited gear you shouldn't trash or spend gems where you shouldn't spend overall most "damage" are recoverable over time
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idk if im allowed to send media in this channel but yea
hiryuu then i guess
tho hyuuga is a fair shout too
if you really want to I'd say farm 4-1 for Saratoga, but otherwise just put someone as placeholder until a better ship comes along
so it'd be like
penny unicorn hiryuu
portland z23 helena
coins, XP and oil will come back over time so don't be worried if you don't have a proper third ship for now
bulins too
im just running rarest gear i have rn when shld i like start being actl concered about best in slot gear
don't count on rarity
also what ab my ships morale, do ppl buy the extra dorm slots
for more regular grinding you'll want up to total of 3 dorm slots and second floor as a F2P
i bought 1 extra dorm slot alr
otherwise you might have to cycle ships, though I doubt you have enough leveled ships to cycle
so just a second floor when/if i can ?
Is Shimanto gun a must have
it's a pretty mediocre gun
not ahead of dock space, if you need space
but if you have enough dock then yeh 2/F dorm
note that you need to have fully expanded 1/F floor space before you can get it
So I can ignore the buff?
Mediocore gun that only shines in plane heavy worlds
it's not really a buff, it's an extra ghost AA gun that's not like super strong or anything
oh also when do i start considering doing hard mode
campaingn hard mode should be cleared daily for core data and retrofit prints
It only really becomes a big buff when equipped on shimanto
event hard mode is just if you can manage
more like Shimanto has an extra ghost AA gun on top of it if she uses it
I still wouldn't recommend it
Alrighty
Is there an avrora substitute for the riceist comp?
I accidentally scrapped my blueprints of Flandre as I was trying to scrap extra I found out they changed something inside of the game which allows you to scrap all the blueprints including the ones you need for fate simulation rank 5 and customer support refuses to reverse or compensate for it.
yeah that's on you
they didn't, it's an option that you might have accidentally turned off
That has always been an option
since like, pr4
Prob pr2
that'll have the same results? don't think so
the frontline is jinM avrora unzen right?
No they changed the option were it's turned off by default now it's on by default I never touched that setting I hold Yostar responsible for it
it was only added alongside prototype cores, which is definitely after PR2
protocore shop is pr4 iirc
which one of these + unicorn and penny shld i focus on retrofitting first
uni
I want my 165 blue prints back
theres no avrora substitute
just use another dps if you dont have avrora but also try to not mess up unzen or jinM torp timings
out of curiousity what does her retrofit provide
a preloaded air strike at the start of the battle, more planes, and more heals and damage in other words
it is an incredible, perhaps arguably game breaking retrofit
did you do it here, because if you did it's always on by default

Well this is hardly the channel for complaining, point in case is you were careless and clicked ok when the game told you it was gonna scrap 165 Flandre bps 
^
and complain as you like, whether in here or in anywhere else
if cs says they're not gonna compensate, then they're not going to compensate
how do i interact with the skin, is there any guide or guide site?
if you wanna rant, this isn't the place anyways
#al-general or reddit might help you better for these
what do i need to modernaise
bulin or copy
a bulin/duplicate
catge
which bullin
purple ship, so purple bulin
tf i have
For this one there's a decent reddit post by Syanda
I hold Yostar responsible. It was turned off by default. I had to re-enable it myself.
shrug, never had that problem
Just click the empty +
ohh wait i dont 💀
u have to select the bulin it doesnt automatically fill it in


