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every info about new ship and events, gear, skin you can see in #cn-7th-anniversary-livestream-discussion
which elite ship should I buy from the guild shop? aside of unicorn, helena,vestal, cleveland
none
Vestal isn't necessary at all
Yeah I meant, I got her from stage drop so I already have her
fight out in a few days when we see if Colorado is worth anything
cheeky time to update your name 
Any of them that you want to set as secretary for wifu reasons; eventually any of them that you want for fleet tech.
None of the others are really good for general use, and vestal just sucks.
if you're not short on bullins no
yeh Colorado getting retrofit in a few days but I think it'll be roughly same ballpark as Nelson or WV so 
You can duplicate to save a bulin, but there's no reason to ever have two copies of a ship in use. Maybe if you really really love your wifu and they have multiple skins that you like you get two so you can have both skins set as secretary.
yeah but Colorado is in the Guild Shop unlike the other 2, which may shake things up a bit
well Nelson is either drop or wait for rookie 
alright thanks again guys 
in damage output how does agir compare to laff2?
dont think anyone specifically compared those two
probably around the same ballpark
next ur is a backliner
there is also a UR DD

2 UR event, same as Guam/Laffey 2
this is really gonna be annoying if this becomes the norm for Anni events
Should have 4bulins next month, hopefully new bb is as good as soyuz
people outside this chat are so... i dont know what to say. awful?
sad if its BB i only have 1 CV
the other new UR is a BB
UR BB Alsace
UR DD Mogador
French?
bye fdg u worked hard
French
yes
where to find the names of the 2 new urs?
Up there.

i alr know alsace so was wondering
They are both French
uhhh
thx


my kronk is never seeing the light of day at this rate
and Foch META in the cruise pass
And yeah coloretro cancer
Foch META next cruise 
wonder if they will be any good this time

it's coming with the update though
not holding hope 
Hmm, how much faster would Sushi fire if I oath her?
a tiny bit
...5%?
is there a permanent fixx on the language settings to start the loading???
less
i thought oath only gives skin
Enough to mess with the current META fight?
maybe, maybe not
depends™️
more mood regen and tiiiiny bit of stat buff
Oh well, I have 2 Sushi 
so uhh what to do? I've done all update last night but when I'm still starting the game, language is still needed to be changed
oath increases the affinity stat bonus from 6% at 100 affinity to 9%, then if you raise to 200 affinity bonus is 12%
One can be oath for skin
Update app again
in playstore?
Yes
when the only thing I'm really excited about is MK7 coming back from the void
Especially playstore 
Hmm, should I oath the Sushi I use for boss fight or the sushi I kept for skin?
I'm waiting for the VAs for the remaining roster
I mean I've updated the game last night, all was well, but it seems I missed re-updating the game through playstore
Honestly I'm also really excited about that as someone who missed the events...
But well
The interesting to see would be how expensive is the upgrade
the difference between the 2 being?
All the prints
Mk7 should actually spend design plans, which is a good thing
One is MLB, the other isn’t but both are lvl 125 and max skill
that was Colorado retro, right 
If you used app store the fix may have been different
well do the one that's MLB, we literally have 2 new URs dropping Tuesday
That’s the boss fight one
WV, now CO 
How do I earn agir shards ?
if i dont get all copy of rodney meta can i get it later on?
yeah this update is all I needed... it went to login screen now
Whenever it gets added to dossier
Eventually
yes, just need to wait for her to be added to the dossier
next thing u know u have to use the UR ordanance thing for it 
augh okay ig i can get her copies now then, how to get copies?
I wouldn't be surprised....
Kill her
ik thats a true answer but is that all?
would be very suprised if they just use the normal UR gun prints
Yeah actually
Just kill her every day twice
Kill her 5 times a day?
And yeah 5 actually if you count others
isn't ordance only for prototype gear
kill her twice per day, support others to kill her 3 times per day
Quint mags...
Mk7 will likely use UR designs like quint mags do
does all gold prototype use ordance also
is it just never worth going +13 on UR gear
thing is, will they use the ordanance UR prints? guess we will see 
I actually slept while watching the stream but now this is sure going to be a " Very big event" I mean 2 new URs and whole new UI completely changed the look of the game
either way, it'll probably be a month before they even get add it anyway
when you have enough excess gold plates and there's no better options/priority
prob but #cn-7th-anniversary-livestream-discussion that way
Yep going to watch more ✨
are sextuples higher priority than twin57
for +13?
ye
i say they are
well they cost a third of the price. I wouldn't say priority for sure but you can go for them first sure
only to the extent of two
you'll be fine with +10 sextuples probably with 13H but I'll save for rainbow for 15
Anyone know when mk7 will be available in gear lab?
probably not until early June
Soon™️
preparing for 15 shud i do rainbow then
we don't know until the relevant announcemnt with date comes
based on last year that is
@dapper musk
are all of those announced in stream?
is there any way to change what to download if i already started? my required updates are like 1/12234
iirc nope
Sexys aren't the priority anywhere so the answer is yes
unless reinstall i guess
Week 3, 6 june
bruh my phone storage is going to die noooo
it redownloads the stuff, not add
if you want to unselect all i guess redownload the only way
The selections pale in size to base art
You could select nothing and it will dl 10GB. Select all and dl 12GB.
When is this upcoming URs event is going to start?? Any dates
this Tuesday
does someone know a good source of info on what are currently good fleets for OPS ?
Even all those oath skins and all those new UI too ??
oath skins should be following week I think
of couse not
UI mailbox META dock will likely be next week
battle Ui is future iirc? the rest in this 3 week
wait for patch notes/announcement posts 
Week 1 event
Week 2 party
Week 3 QoL + oath
i mean why wait when it's in the stream?
because I'm lazy to go back to check what they said
smh my head
Ohhh so, it's a complete 3 week event I don't know if my phone can hold the update storage😅
it's not much
The real 3D stuff is future 
i love how that's the only thing already setup but still in future
damn bb comp in this meta is not doing dmg
read
the
mechanics
have you read her skills
no i just started fighting it and never fight it until now
It does help to at least read the boss mechanics before you fight...
well do so, that'll make things a lot more clear
But no matter
The tldr is that if you backline attacks within 1.5s of each other
Rodney goes invul
welp guess need timing tuning
BBs do particularly badly because they launch their second and third salvos into the clones
Either a lot of time tuning or manual play
ill rather use cv then
After yesterday's update game no longer wants to load, tried downloading the next update on Google Play after that one and nothing changed, how the hell to fix it? Or is the only way to redownload the game?
Sry i forgot to ask like event is going to be like guam and laffey 2 right ( like laffey 2 was on shop )
One was a gigabite large, next one was something like 90mb
try #tech-support then
Try uninstalling the whole game even that complete data and download it again from playstore make sure to bind ur account with yostar or Facebook this is really important
That's going to be a massive pain...
I did the same 😅 today
For me it's total of 15 gb as for now
17 gigs is probably going to download for no less than 4 hours...
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The general advice is to do PR4 for both the ships and the gear
all drops it
But yeah, all research series drop rudder BPs
/research
credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg
might wanna give that a read
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research#research_project_priority
Be patient man u can do it 💪
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Well, I will be unable to do anything requiring internet while doing so and if am going to leave it for the night then am most likely skipping a second day in a row in the game...
Should i get bismarck from merit shop, i already have 80medals
no
so do we know how the new URs work
same as Guam/Laffey 2 if that's what you mean
same as yk2 event?
Mogador is the shop UR
French Large DD, one of the 2 new URs
mogador*
i see
Is large dd an actual thing?
no, I'm just saying she's a large Destroyer
is the ur event french based? like vichy?
Both iris and vichya
yes, looks more iris though. also
check the pins in #cn-7th-anniversary-livestream-discussion
also, in lore both factions have merged
gameplay wise it's not been resolved, but at this point they're one faction in the story
Ur iris, Ur vichya
united french ships rework when
instead of making new combined faction UR they gave each faction UR
i still don't know why they add new faction just for that one aux
Gameplaywise we kinda have 3 factions now...
did they actually... well i wouldn't be surprised if they did
we do?
Iris Orthodoxy iirc
Yeah Vichy, Iris Libre and Iris Orthodoxy
oh right there's some equipment with that
well techincally the french already combines in game for equips filter 
Yeah they added two equips with that faction and then never touched it again 
there's no vichya gears
this faction looks interesting, i gonna main this faction
ouh cross is that faction also
at this point I'm just wondering if they'll raise spec core income again, but ig not
i forgot do we get dupes for laffey?
1
just the one. if double URs become mainstream...
but 1 is not dupes
and getting the second one was quite the grind too
For extreme prices so skipped
is it in actual dupes or special item
actual dupe
nagami were you not there for the previous guam event
it cost something like 20k event points+ iirc even assuming you get all the special currency from outside the shop
huh i need to check if my ramzh have 2 laffey or not
the new ur is dd and bb right
i forgot if i asked this earlier
What'd be a good replacement to shimanto in a standard fleet for /w15?
i don't really pay attention
dead gaem
afaik there isnt really one
Sandy, cheshire
Btw I bring to you totally accurate Alsace stats:
FP: 417~473 [33] 🔮: 453 ✅: 455
EVA: 27~42 [13] 🔮: 35 ✅: 44
AA: 172~353 [53] 🔮: 188 ✅: 315
HP: 6896~8604 [39] 🔮: 8026 ✅: 9373
Mogador
FP: 76~179 [41] 🔮: 113 ✅: 155
TRP: 246~438 [59] 🔮: 413 ✅: 375
EVA: 186~305 [130] 🔮: 263 ✅: 271
AA: 100~200 [113] 🔮: 147 ✅: 174
HP: 1314~2648 [136] 🔮: 1744 ✅: 2319
Béarn META
FP: 174~215 [3] 🔮: 204 ✅: 183
AVI: 330~429 [30] 🔮: 403 ✅: 419
EVA: 36~57 [32] 🔮: 41 ✅: 26
AA: 309~364 [5] 🔮: 331 ✅: 325
HP: 5126~7193 [34] 🔮: 6977 ✅: 6176
Brennus
FP: 218~313 [41] 🔮: 268 ✅: 289
TRP: 150~256 [55] 🔮: 243 ✅: 226
EVA: 39~94 [89] 🔮: 57 ✅: 70
AA: 174~293 [42] 🔮: 185 ✅: 253
HP: 4018~6256 [45] 🔮: 4428 ✅:
Fleuret, Épée
FP: 70~126 [63] 🔮: 104 ✅: 100, 104
TRP: 246~438 [59] 🔮: 331 ✅: 422, 419
EVA: 186~305 [130] 🔮: 286 ✅: 258
AA: 138~250 [70] 🔮: 160 ✅: 182, 185
HP: 1314~2648 [136] 🔮: 1721 ✅: 1722, 1787
*This project is just for fun to see how close stat hex predictions are to reality.

not even 9k hp, shit UR
i shall spread the misinfo
just say it's from thorin
gimme Mogador stats too plz
I don't know stat hexagon yet
smh just wait for the actual day
just need to add you used AI to predict it and people will go wild

according to this the dupe cost 45k event currency... I actually did buy it, didn't remember it costing this much
it definitely wasn't 45k
You didn't have to buy all the vouchers
You got some leftovers from missions
Which were sold for better stuff 
It was still quite expensive though
imagine trying to dip out of events and not leaderboarding
ohk that makes sense, I probably got the full amount of available vouchers
and you'll have 3 weeks not 2 to dew it
I tend to dip out of UR events at 100k
honestly though, what else do you buy in shop
ttime to take extra toilet breaks at work for farming
UR gun, 1 Ur copy, prints since VI was new...
i didn't realy have a problem with purchasing it iirc, since there isn't much anything interesting usually
Most of my point were gone into PR prints ig
Every second I finish pr earlier counts
Which aircraft should I build first? Or just save
just save, none of them are worth crafting
Wait fot update (in 3 weeks)
*in that image
wrong channel, sorry
Also I just crafted the flapjack aircraft yesterday is it a waste of mats?
No, you need 6 for w15
no, probably shouldn't have been your first priority but whatever
/gearlab
you want more than 6 for 15, and you need 0
Did they say something about the meta dockspace on stream?
yes
Soon™️
it'll come within the next 3 weeks
oh an actual ETA? neat
Next update? 
there was probably something more specific but I was half awake then and lazy now
Did they literally say that or are you speculating
They said that
they literally had it in the Anni timeine
there will be 3 update for CN anni as usual
I mean one about within 3 weeks
Meta dock is 6/6 I believe
did anyone list and split them by week yet
Yes
That's literally next month 
Week 1 event
Week 2 party
Week 3 QoL + oath
*2 EVERY YEAR
sara's skin in 2nd right
Think so ye
If it's a partyy, yes
nice enough time until salary
sarary
wait they all should be 2 weeks right?
They are available all event 
thorin i... nvm
what's world tour update?
cruise pass
can i get some help on whats currently good at operation siren ?
start a thread and post your dock
How many meta ships in total now
good depends on what you have
I have everyone except 1
32 + 3 announced during the stream
You mean including the 3 new?
Huh who's the new 3?
Bearn, Wichita, Foch
where ?
Wichita, Foch, Bearn
Here
you'd save 32 slots if you had every META ship and the meta dock update was implemented right now (as cheeky said)
Is one of them a gacha meta?
But rodney still long before end
1 gacha, showdown, cruie
Unusual for them to reveal earlier
not really
you're not using romney vs modney yet??
this is pretty standard if anything
Pretty sure it's still long like weeks or something
They usually reveal if only days left
we have less than a month until Rodney META ends
if not anni it's normal announcement, but this is anni Stream so they'll stuff everything they can
Make sense
So bearn meta gold?
yes
Tech 
Even normally they usually add the meta in the last major update of the month and announce it before it's added
or delay it by a week
ever since the app store update, the game won't rotate the screen when i turn the phone to the other side. anyone else having this problem?
new cv tech
yeah it's reported in #known-bugs
Who is better Prinz Eugen or Bremerton?
NJ gun added on gear lab for Tuesday?
what do you need?
no, that's not until June 6th
still curious why this week is on tuesday
Because the prelude ends on Monday
why not.
everything need to have reason :madgeburg:
totally because tea day
Bremerton is probably gonna serve you better
how many cube do we need to be sure to reach the pity in event banner?
just in case, muse or normal eugen
400 (200x2)
maintenances are usually on Thursdays, exceptions usually were due to other rl events at the same time
400 for UR only
well yeah but like who can answer this other than the dev
and a boatload of coins
that's a lot
alright thanks
Wait Foch and Wichita META are both SRs
And both are described as Cruise pass?
I'm a bit confused
Wichita is from showdown
Bearn is from gacha
Foch is cruise pass
Someone foched up
Cruise pass
SR
elite turns to gold
Notable display really makes you take notice
help for updating Operation siren fleet
Isn't that because SR = Elite in JP/CN nomenclature
is cruise pass the battlepass?
Then SSR = our SR
one is CN/JP SR one is EN SR so it's right
it's just a case of someone writing down the wrong thing, nothing more to it
Foch
their splashart looks amazing
are cruise pass good value?
up to you
is tosa cruise pass? then yes
better than purchasing random packs, but you do have to like the skin
basically, do you want the skin or not
okay I note thanks guys
it's one of the higher value packs, with resources + skin
one of the best choices if you're a low spender
2x gems still better
obv 2*gems is best though for gems only
if you're low spender you gonna spend it on dock anyway
Should i get independence even if i have sara and enty and uni and perseus
hmm well I'm very new too so maybe the ressources are gonna be very helpful too no?
prob spent most of my purchased gems on rings tbh
only if you love tosa skin...
not particularly, it's a nice boost but hardly able to justify buying the cruise pass on their own for my taste
I see, it's really for the skin then hmm 
i mean, i don't think the other packs really have better value
i only get cruise pass for gold plates, trust
if you want a boost early game buy the lvl 70 boost pack
lucky packs is better value gems wise if you're fine with any skins or got skin you wanted
i didn't calculate it or I forgot how much, but the resource only stuff just doesn't seem worth it for how much they cost
Huh? Isn't the cruise pass uhhh Attilio or whoever that is?
well, if you dont' mind spending a bit more then sure ig
Done! I started with that + Odin, I wanted to rush campaign as fast as I can before the anniversary event 
directly buying cubes in any case is close to one of the worst value to cost ratios so anything else is likely an improvement
Understood, buying coins instead
i did legit buy coins when i first joined during york2 event
FOMO vibes
P.S. Do not buy coins lol
I… still have complaints about how easy buying coins and oil is
I’ve bought oil twice by accident now
i bought oils intentionally
tbh wish the game made it harder to buy oil/coin during battles
accidentally bought while cleaning phone screen dafug
What‘s the most efficient way to get 8 UR Bulins? 
Play 8 months
uhh, none that aren't heavily time gated
~~man, telling people to potentially anticipate 2 UR every Anni is gonna be rough ~~
most efficient way is to spend your UR bulins carefully and not randomly LB rainbows
There’ll be one UR bulin from the event milestone and likely one for Mogador from shop
The other six you’ll have to make up for through some other method
pull for dupes
Such as the usual grinding from cruise pass or spec core
Why can't I use both. I have 2.
Click Lv>1
If it's the same as Laffey don't bother with the dupe
I mean unironically that's the only way that's not heavily time-gated, in-game at least
- You can get 6k Specialized core max (5k from grinding, 1k from medal shop) every month and UR bullins cost 4k spec core a pop
- 30k event pt milestone on UR events (15k on UR Reruns)
- Lvl 100 Cruise pass reward
- Bullin support plan (One time reward only)
not every1 has 100k spec cores
iirc sometimes you can whale for UR bulin also but its of uh questionable value
cruise pass is 1 every 2 months
Not everyone has 100k event points
cannot anymore, pack is gone
u can whale dupes ig
Newbies have neither the cubes nor the bulins to justify not buying the shop dupe
They’ll have to go for it, and I don’t think it’s debatable
I do think at this point mogador dupe for newer players is probably more valuable than most if not everything in the event shop at this point, even for the slightly absurd cost
what is ur point
and absurb farming required
That Laffey dupe was EXPENSIVE
I farmed sub 60k for the event as per usual iirc
whale?
It’s really not that bad for midgame players if you skip the pr prints
it was only like 24k event tokens iirc. u will want to go up to 55k anyway
sure but if its worth then theres no reason not to farm ?
its like saying hvars were expensive
💳
ofc, mb
if nothing else at least being a 3 week event means the Mogador dupe might not be quite as expensive

Wait double checking confirmed 3 week?
was there any sign of event shop gear or no?
not that I recall
I didn’t see anything
they didn't show any
didnt see any but then again that stream was going at lightspeed lol
Only gear that showed up was gearlab
so don't know if there are or not
yes as I recall we didn't know about the Skyraider and HVAR until the patch notes dropped
Both ur anni's are
I mean they showed the event banner thingy, 21.5. - 13.6.
They don't show gear on CN stream
not since they changed it no
CN Anniv is 3 weeks cuz CN Exams
and JP anniv is also 3 weeks cuz it's JP
is gear lab update early June and is it usually similar to the December-Jan update or smaller scale?
same as last year probably, 5 pieces of gear
That they showed, likely more
are there other event limited gears besides mk7 that were made to gearlab?
yea
laffei dupe was impossible for a new player
i couldn't get it
but if someone can get it i think it is worth putting all the account resources towards that goal 
Except the players that can get them have 130k specialised core 
sea hornet too
like faerlein already said getting the laffey dupe and original costs less than the recc milestone stop of 55k
unless ure a new player that literally started on event its feasible
well TBH i remember myself reaching D1 map at the last hour of the event
and still couldn't manage to 1 fleet it
i think neko also was guiding me throught it 
let me do some exact number crunching
10k weapon, 8k potential dropship
u will have to skip some event shop stuff but imo the only must buy is event gear + ship + cog chips and arrays which leaves u with a comfortable amount for the Dupe if u get the 55k
Oh yeah, arrays and chips
so far it's ur quint, sea hornet, shinden kai, twin 203mle
okay for the Laffey 2 dupe you needed at Minimum 24k event points
TBH i forgot how the shop looked like but seeing how the priority went i think it was near impossible 
Just started playing this week, are any of these worth picking up? I already bought uni 
You needed 160 vouchers is what I recall, so yeah you’re right
Helena
Then from the rare ship selection, Pennsylvania and Portland
you'd have to convert event currency to some token to buy laffey
Of course those newbies can just clear SP fine every day 
Thank you! Game has been super fun so far.
so do we get to see cheeky delete all his 125s?
but he guessed it right 
he didn't say both faction
okay so assuming the sources for points needed to buy Mogador are the same as Laffey 2, missions in total should give 410 and assuming prices remain the same the minimum goes down to 13500 event points for the dupe

That’s… pretty great honestly
everyone who doubted me has to retire all their 125s cause I was right
Well we’ll see. And right about what?
that the UR was French
Was that ever in doubt?
wasn't the points you needed to buy laffey a different token thing and not event currency 
I would never doubt you 
this may be a stupid question, but I only just downloaded yesterdays update and when prompted about which files I wanted to download, I simply ignored it and hit download, not realize it was 10 GBs, I don't have a lot of space on my phone and was wondering if there was a way to uninstall some of these
Yes, a month ago or sth like that I wouldn't have trusted you
yes but you could convert event points to the points needed to buy Laffey 2
Nope
Gotta uninstall completely
Remember to bind first
💀
Nope
gotta uninstall, re-install, then select the stuff you want to not download
You can do a uninstall and skip all the voice files and L2D stuff, they’re the largest offender
ty for the help
but yeah BIND your account first
Technically you can delete the files
But that's an exercise in insanity safety
cheeky linked it if u scroll up but TLDR it was 340 tokens from dailies (for a 2 week event) + 160 from event shop
~~and I am slow 💀 ~~
260/300 atm should i finish the catchup or is this enough?
cuz i kinda wanna do catchup on roon
imo switch to AvP. Anchorage is fine at dev30. but AvP needs the full fate sim.
do you have either of them unlocked?
don't do the catchup on roon before her max dev
unless shes d30
But you need to buy first copy with those too 
yeah it was 200 + 300 for both copies (500 total)
that was accounting for the first copy being bought as well
That's 15 BPs off from D30
nope, not yet cuz im lacking kms tech points the only ships i am allowed to develop is saint louis, roon, and neptune iirc
im like 200 points off to being able to develop anchorage as well
of course this has a few caveats including rushing SP asap, and getting all the event ships among other things
do roon for the kms tech but dont do her catchup
unlock anchorage and AvP so u can coin them
is your focus pr4 in research academy?
And not getting the unique 10k gun
maybe
after getting all PR/DR ships
which PR series are good for equipment ?
to tell u how hard it was for me on that event
i missed flasher
i think i only got laffei and the gun
yeah
I'm not gonna say everyone could do it but at least for this type of event that's what everyone should at least try to be aiming for given the tenuous income of UR bullins relative to demand these says
assuming you have 2 copies of everything, spam PR5 for more Plymouth guns
>Tenuous seems wrong
that is great. I personally would put the 40 remaining BPs into AvP. your research and coining should be able to finish anchorage. the nice thing about the PR4 golds is they are coinable so u will max them both in no time (dw too much about marco)
Side note, they haven’t since then said how many UR events this year have they.
no
Nope
new player don't need to get every UR maxed out, even if it's 2 per anniv it's still fine for them to just do them slowly, it's not a requirement to finish the game so like to be frank it's not the realm of "need" more like "want"
no but for what will be the biggest impact it's limit breaking URs as far as ships go
b-but throwing rainbows at opsi
well yeah, that i agree but they won't be "oh i will need all these 10 URs maxed out"
At 24 UR bulins per year + number of UR events + shop dupes, it’s really not that bad
Supposing 7 UR events with one double, you could mlb everything still
no but what I'm saying is comapred to the PR prints, cogs, etc, I'm saying the dupe has among the highest if not the highest value in the event shop
its not a matter of must its just a priority list which i agree with cheeky
btw, once i reach 343 copies of anchorage should i move on avp or fdg?
And yeah, I don’t value pr prints that much, so the dupe is a priority
i was talking about the general case of UR being more often and new player can't max them not the prio for shop
Not much else that’s valuable in shop other than event exclusive stuff
How to trigger this? What's long range aa? Is it just aa?
It's time fuze
you need to use a Fuze AA gun
OK thanks.
when is JP anni
mid September
yes if they arent max then they will sit anyway and dupe doesnt rly have value untill then, the dupe only comes into play when the UR comes next in MLB prio queue so it just banking on potential value
doing FdG after PR4 catchup is fine. after that move on to agir and hakuryuu
dont touch the PR1-3 catchup for now
Do note fuze guns are TERRIBLE
tbh i thought fuze guns looked great at first glance
I played for a while, have spare parts, I think make some of these are fine.
They should made it clear by the way.
why plym guns over tenrais?
because there are more oppurtunities to use Plyguns than Tenrais
you only really need 2 tenrais and you can use a lot more Plymouth gusn pretty easily
I don’t ever get to use more than two tenrais at once
the Tenrai is a bigger improvement over a Helldiver compared to Plymouth Gun vs something like a 155 Kai but to be blunt the only times I've used my 3rd is when I'm too lazy to swap
Whereas plym guns I could manage probably to stuff five of them in a boss fleet
just curious in avg how many specialized core do we get per month? 
6k max, reaching that should be pretty easy
maxinum of 6k
5k from grinding, 1k from medal shop
I use 3 tenrai, one on nano, one on haku and one on impla (against heavy boss)
you don't use Divebombers on Implacable for bossing
always fighters or torpedo bombers
Between hood aug and sara aug which one should i get first chat
Plus cruise pass, that’s a total of 24 guaranteed Ur bulins per year
hood
why not? I can sync her
Add to that any event bulins and dupes and it’s not too bad
because compared to a converging torpedo bomber or rocket fighter it does less damage, plain and simple
ah makes sense, don't have enough of the anti heavy rocket fighters yet
you dont really need those
you use converging torpedo bombers against heavy
you run conv tb on single target heavy not anti heavy rocket
I only ever crafted like 1 anti-heavy rocket fighter and that was for Modney fight
yeah but not all my slots can take tb
I thought you meant the second slot on Implac
we are talking about her flex slot
oh mb
so there are 2 URs in this event?
yes
One gacha, one in the shop
1 banner 1 shop/mini event
similar to guam/laffey2
oh one in the shop? so one is UR in pretty much guaranteed. any info about which is where?
Mogador is the shop ship
and Alsace is the gacha UR
alright, thanks
Uhh my hood lvl is not much of a different right? She keep dying in autos
Why is she off-flag
She died
what aux gun you using
what chapter
10-4
what is she dying to, try throwing a fire extinguisher on her
use fire extinguisher and better aux gun, also prob use double line
no aug
Autoloader 
he's in chapter 10 what would you expect, gotta use anything you have
I got away a bit after setting the auto then came back seeing she died
10-4... was that the nagato sniping backline?
...I actually don't use any aug outside the exclusive augs tbh
well try +10ing that aux gun along with adding the fire extinguisher in place of the autoloader and try again
well, hood does have an exclusive aug so....
well you are a casual so no surprise
Hmm i don't know since if i do manual then she is not dying to that, rather live pretty good
yeah but hood is on mob fleet ender

I mean it's hood
With med armour
With DD secondaries
In w10
use double line
Yeah she's not gonna take too kindly to that
the only memorable enemy i think was the nagato bbs that sniped backline, and with only one bb that can happen
Could be fire, could be bomb boats
and stop wasting 2x mats on stage you don't guarantee you'll clear
i'd say fire extinguisher could be a savvy choice, especially given you don't rly have great auxes rn
Well i can auto 10-3 and my brain tell me to do that 
I would strongly recommend fire suppressor for w10+11 before safe
well 10-4 is not 10-3
I run rudder + fire extinguisher on boss flag in 14-4 
It's probably the level advantage
it's all combined
Yeah but i dont understand why if i do it manually she doesn't dying to anything
rng honestly.
rng in enemy choosing/spawn
honestley who knows, without more information on what exactly is happening we can't say

probably gear issue
and the more I look at it tbh i'm convinced it's nagato sniping
Could also be that your manual control is preventing bomb boats from reaching the backline
you spawn more 3 star than usual prob, and more BB
And also it's Kongou and Hiei that do the sniping on most nodes
Nagato and mutsu only appear on the 3* BB nodes
its like a lifetime ago since i last did w10
But besides the point
There are so many factors
Ngl if she died again im gonna replace her with Theseus
please don't, that'll just make things worse
Idk if replacing her with another ship with no guns helps
No BB in w10 is asking to get murdered
you'll die to suicide boats
The suicide boats will slam into your backline
Doing as much as 20% of the CV's HP each
Triple CV mob only really works in W12/13
Maybe 10% if the frontline gets some hits in
not to mention the loss of some natural stagger
let him learn the hard way
And CVs once they get revealed
Don't take too kindly to being burnt themselves
in my experience here ppl don't learn
dang rice back from the ded
I come back for a bit and ppl still using cn trash comps
For RodM?
15 as well
what cn w15 fleet?
Whatever the command is
those are stigmas
Wichita is the next SSR Meta, right?
next showdown yes
a light armor CA probably, so no Aurora which will be interesting
that explains a lot
Well as a shipfus she was very frail
As a meta 
well, people'll have access to the MK7, so not all bad
has anyone even tested those fleets
well they work lol
very successful for most threads yes
Hmm
Weren't the frontline metas relatively heavy with frontline damage
all i see is ppl failing with it and they keeping coming to ectl
Uhhhh, nope?
Or was it just helmet
Algerie did nothing
Kirov did nothing
Jint was pretty bad
i followed it and it worked for me
they were probaly switching what shouldnt be swapped lmao
yes quite, people do that a lot when copying stuff
idk in that last thread its was like comp doesnt work? recommend getting better cats
like wtf???
Eh... I'll just send Sirius and make do with 10% tbh
well they were trying to lethal 3 star which yeah, no comment
/w15
15-4 collection
0. http://renhex.github.io/alft/81 standard fleets. First fleet could do boss 1 and 3, or give it to the second fleet.
- http://renhex.github.io/alft/59 if you're tired of seeing Musashi Guam laffii fleets...this wins with half tech/cats. Chapter 15 isn't that hard, have correct gear and ship roles covered. Second fleet needs to do boss 1 and 3.
- https://renhex.github.io/alft/98 3 starring fleets that may or may not work on lethal depending on whether your account is actually good. Musashi fleet does all mobs and boss 1+3, and the crossfleet fleet does boss 2 only. Prioritize 2 support Large Air Formations > Boss 1 > Large Main Fleets when having ammo. Save your full ammo node to use on two Reconnaissance Fleets and Boss 3 for last.
- Shimanto > Ply, Yorkii > Enterprise, bb aux guns can both be 155.
- Full flapjack on support carriers is best, but skyrocket and fw190a5 are cheaper and also good. For surface fleets, flapjacks are best, followed by tigercat/pirateCorsair/seahornet. Prioritize flapjacks for surface fleets.
- #gameplay-help message read this. These fleets should have 99%+ win rate with medium-high cats and tech. Expect your win rate to be slightly lower. If you don't have Guam/laffii, much lower.
- #gameplay-help message on submarine timing. Early subs = dead subs
- #gameplay-help message choose support carriers with good fighters
- Avoid Large/Medium Main Fleets. If you're 3 starring, use Shimanto and never fight them out of ammo.
By suchiguma
-3 is pretty easy for 3 star lethal

i cooked a fleet and tested it in 30mins
woaw, maybe we should make yours /w15v2
If memory serves, Wichita should only be like... at the very end of the event anyway right
well have you tested it?
We have 26 days more for rodM so...
26 days basically puts us mid June
It'll start as event ends iirc
Neat
I'm still deadset on 575k
I'm too lazy to calc
June 12th to be specific
well i saved mine, so if you cook something up i can run it
well pull the comp in that thread if you want to try it
prob wont be able to adjust if i dont know details tho
im fairly confident the boss fleet fails without even trying it
with 26 days remaining there's a total of 25,350 points possible, provided you're at Lv 15 
Hi question
Do y'all actually stock up coins past soft cap before events 
yes
Yes
nope i just rush event early and go back to 12
If so, how much is too much
i ran all of the comps for stigma, they work well enough, but once people who think they know what they are doing start swapping shit like guam for another cb, it starts to break
currently aiming for 400k this event
300k+
...ah okay I still have a ways to go then
I have been told I should get 300k
So far I've never gotten that high 
Well off to grind Marco then
Day 1 is a wash anyway bc I get gated by the D maps so I just get my last coins from 12-4
*If I need them
considering my plans involve hitting pity if need be, limit breaking 2 URs and doing a retrofit at least....
I expect to D30 Agir before I finish Marco tho 
the person copied the fleet near 1:1, lacking +13 in minor pieces and it failed on an easier stage, so idk
I seem to sit at 500k+ these days for coin stock, not much to spend on past Cats, and Awakenings 
Inb4 skill levels are the issue
well for clear those fleets are close to 99%
for lethal 3* it depends
cats and tech contribute aswell ofc
and if your response is get better cats then the fleet sounds like it just fucking sucks
I mean ship skill
Not manual skill
~~Ender indirectly calling me out
~~
I mean I have no horse in this race
But could usage of subs be the difference?
i mean if fleet is close to lethal 3* i dont rly see how it sucks and its not marginal diffs in accounts
aye
i didnt use subs in my tests and full cleared
That's honestly impressive
did you turn off clearing node for your tests
it sounded like they knew what theyre doing and used subs properly
Oh yeah tech
if you can get a better fleet ill change it
Tech might genuinely be a factor
tech shouldnt add up to much of a difference
no but adding all of it together
I for one have no tech
And I can tell you it makes things unnecessarily annoying
I imagine that quite a few players that come here looking to clear w14/15 are relatively newer
rld tech is what alot of ppl dont have coz lower rarity ships unlvled and it makes quite a diff for the 2cv pair spawns
nah it doesnt make much of a difference, ive tested
As in, it could affect meeting the spawn cycles
ive full cleared with 0 rld vs max theres very little variation

if your fleet is properly desynced it theres no effect
I mean not saying I don't believe you
ive found sometimes the lower rld is better
I feel like genuinely there's a skill difference maybe? 
same can be said at times for more rld tho
theres not much skill aside from copying a fleet and clicking auto
theyve seemed to have correctly selected node order
but thats about it to the extent of skill
iv run the same fleet with indep and without indep crossfleet and mine dealt way better with 2nd cv spawns due to extra rld and them dying without launch extra planes
on supercv node
its the extra dmg more than the rld
if you get hit hard by supercvs it prob means they got a launch off
yes it was subless i was testing something else
i dont use subs until 0 ammo and the fleet is 1hp
if it doesnt make it to 0 ammo the fleet is shit and i scrap
Wait
You mean people don't only call in subs at 0 ammo 
idk ive seen ppl recc subs on supercv here for some reason a while back
Ok I guess that's fair
it was to kill faster and save HP, that was just for regular clears though mind you
but every other node is a healing node
it depends, mby they took bb nodes on 0 ammo which even the "best" fleets have a hard time dealing with
its doable just not chaining them
best my fleets have done is 2 in a row but kinda rng
i find cv 0 ammo harder sometimes depending on the setup
when you build a full clear fleet you kinda have to expect the 3 star bb nodes since those are unavoidable, the best you can do is control how many you have at 0 ammo which is still a little rng
you still have a spawn on the last ammo
oh u mean -3 
ye
i think -4 as well if you do boss with mob fleet
or was it 2 ammo? iirc you can still get 0 ammo 3star bb nodes on bad rng
its 8 battles (inlcuding minibosses ) + final boss
ammo node is enough for all fights even if doing both bosses with mob if boss fleet does 1 fight
im talking full clear
that idr
i havent touched 15-4 since laffii thinking it would be a joke
laffii guam certainly have made it alot easier
it trivialized most of the difficult parts of it
When are Alsace and Mogador coming?
next tues
21st
Thank
when to use bb or cv fleet?
full clear is easy(conceptually). you do your 0 ammo fights with uber fleet and then pick up ammo node for last 3 fights
also should i have torp fleet in opsi
bb and cv fleets will end up both be used on abyssals and arbiters
as for which to use at any one time, it honestly depends on the gearing 
ye the ammo node is what makes 1 fleet full clear possible
like, there are anti light CV comps using rocket fighters but if you lack the gears for anti light, stick to BBs
ok wait no i forgot
it also depends on the boss mechanics
its kinda easier to build anti light cvs for newbies due to gear being accessible
some bosses have a mechanic like
50% chance reduce shelling damage to 1 below 30% HP
thats the thing. when i look at the boss, i do not see any bb or cv mechenic
You have to check the modules
there aren't any
i have to wait until i get the weak point
y'all wording needs help holy shit
those don't work
but alright thanks guys
so then you'd leave your CVs to wrap the boss
you use BBs and CVs in mono fleets purely for maximizing damage in OpSi
see boss. kill with bb or cv. buff bb or cv to kill more. don't buff bb or cv to kill less
you mono hull to stack buffs better
it's bugged
im pretty sure ply debuff was bugged yesterday since the indicator for it is back now
which fleet to use?
did you perchance read the "additional effects"
what should I do for ironblood tech points
theres the trash mobs hiding in the back, take 1 out heal the fleets and re hit
get and max limit break ironblood ships
Been having a lot of other bugs lately too, game's lagging in META fights and arbiters
if you're out of them, consider heading to the divergent chessboard war archive

which IB backliners gave notable fleet tech
not Scharnhorst or Gneisneau
or Graf Zeppelin and Zeppy
or Seydlitz and Luztow, I think everyone else was at least decent
if you do dc you want every kms drop to get fdg
i mean zeppy doesn't even give fleet tech
oh and the CVLs just give CVL reload
can anyone recommend me a beginners guide for azur lane?
question if i get stuck on a level, do i just spam a stage before i got stuck until i have low mood?
it depends. that shouldn't be necessary until chapter 3+. and then probably doesn't work again after 10+
what is the use of splitting bb and cv fleets in opsi?
i cant really grind because of the mood and i have many fuel
certain ships only buff one or the other
okokok
grinders should consider investing in 2nd floor of dorm. (did you put your ships in dorm?)
is north carolina good now?
no
i have 2 ships in there
shes better now but she went from really bad to meh
ok thanks
like as an overall jump it pretty large but she was so bad to begin with 
its really good but theres no content that calls for it
is a small white ship, weakened by submarine, with two ^^
is easier to defeat than
a big black ship but with only one ^ (not weakened by submarine) ?
uh, if you need to use subs to clear you're better off just calling them into battle rather than letting them passively attack enemies
and the two ships are ones you are using? so you can micromanage the dorm. every hour or less rotate 2 new ships in. If you do that you should be able to sustain 13 fights per hour.
Why not do both?
ill use them during the boss fight ?
you need to get the all enemies star eventually right 
ill die lmao, that's why i want to defeat the easiest one
well you have 6 ammo attempts
i already did once! so no need anymore
does that mean i can call them into fight 6 times ????? I DIDNT KNOW THAT HOLY COW
if you buy 3rd dorm slot then you can sustain 15 fights an hour.

Submarine ammo is used when they preemptive strike or when you call them into battle
You can do both on the same enemy node but it will use 2 ammo 
i didnt think of that, i only thought it just gave xp that i just put z23 and portland in. i will rotate it then every hour
does the boss ever spawn in the submarine zone ? :o
depends on the stage but usually you move the submarines so they are over the boss
you can also move subs to be in range
omg it just did but my submarine didn't go to attack the boss
Whats the effect on DDG Missile strike on the map? And does it activate when auto search?
it doesnt activate on auto search
the effect is similar to a cat or submarine preemptive strike but aoe instead (it can hit multiple enemies per missile strike)
and you can pick its land point
pretty sure the missile doesnt stack with itself and similar to submarines they dont work on bosses too but im not 100% sure
did anyone elses AL random clear its own storage?
That's how the update worked
damn
See pins in #al-general
the update reset the games storage????
it reinstalls the entire game basically
yes
Ah i see, That's very odd, i was so confused for a moment, thought my phone decided to smite AL once and for all
Unrelated, Is it possible to install AL on a micro SD card?
from previous experience, no
you can install the app itself on the SD card sure
but the game assets will always download in the phone memory
sad... cursed with 64 gigs of storage and AL takes up the majority of that free space remaining after the system takes up nearly half
finally dual UR banners, the stream's not released yet right?
streams ended hours ago fam
also, there's only 1 UR in the banner tho
the other is from the shop
same happened with guam and laff II
newbies getting shafted by urin deficits again
right, I remember that event
The Next event is tuesday right not Thursday like usual?
yes tuesday
we have no hint from the stream on event gear worth farming, did we?
none what so ever
the only gear related announcement we got was mk7 being added to gear lab at some point
did we basically discern the second UR is like Laffey, going to be obtainable with mission/event currency?
yes
confirmed by dev too
proceeds to take ords instead of bb prints
it shouldn't, hopefully...
We love ord we love ord
other question is how many electronics
and what will it event craft from
should be mk6 right?
refund my 45 plates
i would imagine mk1
In before from Georgia 

They are gonna create some weird as fuck transition or transitional gear
this Mk1

Actually that is a good question
Last CN anni when they did Gear Lab update
Was there transitional gear NOT shown in the stream that we also got
I have completely forgotten...
i mean i was right too 
not that I recall

it was just the 5 pieces that were shown on stream
can't blame you
it's one of those weird ass guns with the old shitty normal ammo
BB gun normal ammo has not evolved since then 👀
Can I use Sam's fleet building guide to remove ships, only keeping event and map drop ships? I would Retire the others, since I need a lot of medals to upgrade my PR and DR, as well as space in the dock. As a player who has been here for a few months, I don't plan on collecting all the ships right now. I'd like to have plenty of space to farm PR EXP.
neither has he
for just farming XP fleet building is not that stringent
cheeky when are you changing your name?
just use 3 ships that need levels and meet the XP requirements and 3 more ships that also need levels and farm W12+
nothin in this context means stats and skills
Ngl, checking the wiki
BB HE has also not evolved since the game start
It's just we've got six different kinds of AP... (edit: actually more since we also have Flan and Soyuz guns now...)
I would add more context but character limitation
its okay ppl dont read your name anyway

check wiki for guild shop and map drop ships. dont retire limited stuff if u can help it
The context I used is more about dock management and purchasing PR and DR plans with medals from the ships I retire that aren't on the list from that guide.
if this is something safe to do.
its not safe
u should retire by order of ease of aquisition not by roles for the ships you dont use
usually you get more than enough medals farming events
well first, you don't need to retire unqiue coppies of ships to buy PR prints for the medal shop
second, no it's not considering it doesn't distinguish between what's event limited and how difficult a ship is to reobtain
even if the ship is trash?
the prints arent even that high prio, you save like 2-3 days from buying them
play more or smarter not worse
they could give good tech and you never know when a ship may come in handy, better safe than sorry
wtf cheeky 
It might always get a retro or aug 
i knew cheeky was cn
i got
Yo chat colorado retro is confirmed?
yes
I was about to retire her dayum
cheeky might as well go all the way and use all moonrunes 
I honestley couldn't think off the top how to translate stats and skills...
go all the way and change your color to green to indicate bad

我们不知道新的海上传奇舰的性能与技能是什么
strikeout on moonrunes doesnt do much
I noticed 

