gameplay-help

[left nest]

Do UR ships by default get preference to 125? Or are there some SR ships that have priority?

[whole crypt]

or can helena rng still cuck you

[gloomy mesa]

how do I get that beauty?

[hollow gust]

Just run double oxytorp

[strong tartan]

event

[gloomy mesa]

F

[whole crypt]

gacha and research rainbows usually safe but I'd go by ships you're actually using on hard bosses first

[turbid dawn]

Well I tried that but I get like 30k less dmg because of the high EVA+luck of RodneyM, plus I need beaver badge for the speed as the vang is slow without it

[atomic abyss]

Not necessarily
I mean firstly it assumes you have them MLB
But even then, some URs are more worth the 125 than others, usually the DPSes

Or rather ships you actually use for hard content lol

[cobalt rapids]

give beaver to avrora shes not the dmg dealer

[turbid dawn]

Is the drake gun better for the heavy armour of RodneyM over the Hinden gun?

[cobalt rapids]

pretty much the same if same enhance

use the one u got at +13

[hollow gust]

Drake is marginally superior

[turbid dawn]

I do have both at +13

But tbh I don't think swapping out those 2 is gonna shoot her up massive amounts of dmg

[left nest]

hmmm ok, cuz right now the only ships I have at 125 are: FDG, UVH, Sandy, Yuudachi, Hood, Unicorn, Enty. I have Soyuz and Kronshtadt sitting at 120, Agir and Haku aren't dev 30 yet

[cobalt rapids]

its not

[turbid dawn]

It also leaves the question on why my Nano dmg is so low too, only 150k for all strikes hitting compared to Harks 235k, but it's every fight it's happening

[left nest]

I guess I'll just hold off on 125 until I know what fleet I'm gonna be running for world 14, I'm just slowly grinding out gear lab equipment rn

[whole crypt]

remind me what are your techs and ship access like

[left nest]

thx guys

[echo axle]

Guys, what type of shell for Zwei, Type 1 AP shell or Super Heavy Shell

[cobalt rapids]

both, but usually white with radar

[atomic abyss]

Both, almost every BB wants both

[echo axle]

So equip both of them in the two aux slots?

[steady beacon]

OK, I've seen the vid... give me a sec

[cobalt rapids]

if no radars yes

[whole crypt]

@cobalt rapids I know he manuals, I'm just curious if there are auto comps he can make that are more consistent than manual

[echo axle]

And will it be worth it if I bought the thing from the core shop

[hollow gust]

Well buy the black shell first

[atomic abyss]

I mean, the recommendation is 3 pairs
But yes black first

[hollow gust]

Then buy white if you can afford both

[atomic abyss]

Cos you can use the purple rarity white one from Sakura boxes

[turbid dawn]

I have all ships basically apart from the events between Kron-BisZ.

[echo axle]

I have 2000, so it's enough for both, or do I have to save up some and just buy the Black one first

[cobalt rapids]

auto more consistent than manual

[whole crypt]

well I've had 100% oneshots if including barrage, assists are whatever as long as you get 75

[warm flax]

Is it normal that I'm having hard time on 14-3 more than 14-4

[atomic abyss]

I'd just grab both

[whole crypt]

14-3 no ammo node

[echo axle]

Mmm, ok, I'm buying both for Zwei

[steady beacon]

OK, firstly... you are losing half of Unzen's second rotation
Secondly, you are jamming her too hard
If you could have gotten her fourth rotation out, that at least had the potential to be a kill

[turbid dawn]

I felt like the only 1 I was jamming was JintsuuM

[lone vigil]

are there any good guides for operation siren cause i just unlocked and theres so much stuff i dont know what to do with

[whole crypt]

have you completed OS story ch4

[lone vigil]

?

[echo axle]

Operation Siren Chapter 4, I'm hoping he meant that

[lone vigil]

how do i tell if ive completed it

[steady beacon]

Jintsuu can't jam because she has two torp mounts but only loads one per rotation
Unzen jams because she has two torp mounts but loads concurrently
Avrora also jams, but we couldn't care less about her torps

OK, let me cook the fleet comp for you
Do you still have one attempt left today?

[turbid dawn]

I have my own attempts left still

[whole crypt]

my vanguard now

[turbid dawn]

Also do you know why the Nano dmg is so low? Or have any idea on why she's still 80k behind Hark?

Even though they both have the exact same egar apart from a +13 tenrai compared to +10

[atomic abyss]

There's a mission list in opsi

[hollow gust]

Timing , prob missed her last airstrike

[lone vigil]

lemme check rq

[turbid dawn]

@hollow gust You can watch the video here

She didn't miss anything

[lone vigil]

it says there are none available atm

[steady beacon]

I wish I could tell you tbh lol
It's still bizarrely lower than when I scuff her planes...

[echo axle]

Is this Decent gear for Zwei or should I make some changes to the gear colors

[atomic abyss]

That's perfectly fine for poverty gear

[echo axle]

The gear can run till w12 right? For now

[atomic abyss]

Depends on the other stuff

[whole crypt]

Mk6 is fine
secondary gun could be better if you have the options
AA gun could be better if you have the options
FCR better if you can use white shell or HPFCR
augment sword better in general unless specifically fighting heavy boss

[steady beacon]

Just to check @turbid dawn
Shinano is Saiun/Tenrai/Saiun
Haku is Saiun/Tenrai/Ryuusei?
Do you have any more Ryuuseis or Ju-87s at +13 that could be used instead (important bc I'm trying to avoid saddling AvP with Fulmars)

[turbid dawn]

I lied, she has +12 Saiun instead of +13 too

[echo axle]

HPFCR? Is that a purple Radar?

[steady beacon]

Ah OK

[turbid dawn]

These are the best torp bombers I have at the highest level

[atomic abyss]

Gold

[steady beacon]

Thank you
I can believe the difference with those enhancement level differences tbh
Haku is just that strong

[echo axle]

Oh, I have that but it's equipped on NJ

[steady beacon]

It would help, by the way, to switch the order of Shinano's TBs

[whole crypt]

this also works, or the purple version of this

[steady beacon]

Since her slot 3 is 4x140% versus slot 1 2x125%

[late flame]

do note that white shells do not stack

[turbid dawn]

So you think that little bit of enhancement difference would make sense for an 80k defficit? Damn

[whole crypt]

not all 80k of it

[steady beacon]

Well, Shinano has a deficit on Haku anyway
To upgrade it to 80k is the believable part

[echo axle]

What would you recommend, especially since I'm entering zones of w11 and w12. I hear it's quite hard to push through

[whole crypt]

but at this point I'm out of ideas why the difference is that big, because when I tested between using either Shinano or Hakuryuu, Hakuryuu came out under

as far as I can tell the difference in Shinano's buff and gear enhancement isn't enough to cover the disparity

[whole crypt]

your BisZwei is fine as it is for those 2 chapters, both for gear and level
if you have any trouble it'd be from the rest of your fleet

[late flame]

click Battle > operation siren > enter any blue port and then click Information tab

[echo axle]

Alright then

[turbid dawn]

Hey that's why I'm so confused too, i'm not missing any airstrikes, her dmg is just that low for w/e reason

Always has been tbh

In all honesty 150k seems low as it is. Even BisZ can do 100k for this fight and she only hits 1/3 for her salvo

[steady beacon]

@turbid dawn ignore the oath/weapon enhancement levels, I'm too lazy to swap them
I did calculate on Traneptora and got (+28 CV RLD from tech)
AvP (+12% RLD, Love 100) - FW-190/Tenrai/Ju-87 D4: 21.93
Shinano (Oath 200) - Saiun/Tenrai/Ryuusei: 21.99
Hakuryuu (Oath 200) - Ryuusei/Tenrai/Saiun: 22.12
So it should be able to force AvP ahead without gimping her DB slot
But there are caveats that I must add to the playing of this fleet

[normal crane]

Is there no other way to get past meta character?

[cobalt rapids]

wdym no other way, dossier is basicly archive

cruise pass metas not yet

[late flame]

maybe he meant cruise pass ones

[normal crane]

Like to get Helena Meta

[cobalt rapids]

helmet is in dossier

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/META_Showdown#Dossier_META_Showdown

[steady beacon]

Firstly, because Unzen jams herself, you must be as quick as you humanly can aiming her
This means you must call AvP before Unzen loads, so that Rodney is stopped just as Unzen loads and you can get her torps launched immediately... your CA RLD is only 1 short of mine, so the times I've found to make this work should also work for you: namely, launch AvP at 1:04 and 0:42 (last one doesn't matter bc Rodney is stationary)
This should allow you to get her fourth rotations torps out before Rodney activates her final Dimensional Transcendence
Secondly, Avrora's torps are complete throwaway, just launch them as soon as they load (should be faster than Jintsuu if you don't jam Avrora), because it is better for them to be wasted than to jam Unzen
Thirdly, you will want to arrange for Jintsuu somehow to die before the battle is over
One pretty easy way is to just ram a bit during your torpedo salvos
You don't have to face torp with the Mk IXs, I repeat, but you do somehow want to kill Jintsuu so that she gets her death torps

[turbid dawn]

Okay, two questions, don't you want Jintsuu tanking for the extra buff on Unzen and can I turn off the artillery support with my own fights

Becasue thats 25% trp buff

[steady beacon]

I mean, when I say "let Jintsuu die" I don't mean actually let her die 👀
Like trigger the death torps then keep her alive until the end

[turbid dawn]

Yes but

Unzen will miss out on this if Jintsuu ain't in front

[steady beacon]

But Jintsuu is in front?

[turbid dawn]

Oh do you read it bottom-up, my bad

Also is there a way to turn off this

[steady beacon]

Blame the original creator of the fleetbuilding tool

[atomic abyss]

Go kill a friend's one

[turbid dawn]

I've done all 3 of those

[steady beacon]

There are the numbers, though 1 = front for vanguard; 1 = flagship for main fleet

Eh, it's fine
Here, you're not testing damage per se
It'd be better if you use the opportunity to nail your timings

One of the secrets (?) of manual is that part of achieving consistency is practising until your play against the boss is flawless

[whole crypt]

my Jintsuu META usually survives till last launch with 1 rudder on auto

[steady beacon]

He said, despite whiffing like half his torps normally anyway

[whole crypt]

and I gave up on ramming Taurus, she's even more annoying than Leo

[turbid dawn]

3s left on the fight even with the extra artillery

[normal crane]

Thx for this, I just played for a month now so i don't know that exists

[turbid dawn]

It did seem like I would get in some extra torps by the end tho

[whole crypt]

just remember all damage needs to be done before last 10s on clock

[steady beacon]

See that is more the Unzen score I'm expecting

[cobalt rapids]

its just this screen shifted by 45 degrees so they are straight

[turbid dawn]

Yeah it was at 13s she died from last Hark airstrike

[wary hawk]

smh fleetmaker tool creator

[steady beacon]

Dw, I know
I don't think any other order would look natural to me anyway

[normal crane]

How long does it take to get a meta character?

[dawn hamlet]

Hmm how do we increase the max current storage for oil/coins?

[steady beacon]

Uhhhh
Past META
Is like... 5 days for first copy?

[whole crypt]

upgrade your canteen and merchant which means getting your commander level up
each commander level also adds a bit

[cobalt rapids]

cmder lvl, guild tech ( but guild tech not worth buying )
those are just the soft caps meaning you just cant collect from merchant/canteen anyway

[turbid dawn]

I purposefully didn't fire the last airstrikes just to see vang dmg and here is what u were looking for ig

[steady beacon]

Hah, that's more like it

[dawn hamlet]

I see, thanks guys

[whole crypt]

now to adjust the timings so this can happen without manual

[steady beacon]

But can you get 100% consistency though?

[whole crypt]

shrug

[turbid dawn]

I guess I'll see tomorrow

Shame AVP is still so low and Nano kind of is too but oh well as long as I can get it done

81k better then 68k

[normal crane]

Should i do auto deploy or just manually attack them?

[whole crypt]

I don't remember is there some reason why the comp is Musashi/Shinano/Implacable instead of Hakuryuu/Shinano/Implacable, or is it just that you can't get Hakuryuu on a timing that does more damage than Musashi's barrage

[steady beacon]

Well, like I said... practice makes perfect when it comes to manualling these fights tbh
Maybe not 100% on account of some equipment and tech but I think if you nail your play, you should be able to achieve a kill at least once

[cobalt rapids]

the latter

[steady beacon]

Well, how much are you able to do yourself?

[normal crane]

Only 360k

[gusty olive]

Is that torp meme?

[steady beacon]

... Actually, heck, based on your roles you're on Amagi aren't you? 👀
Um, if you don't want to do it yourself, add me in-game and I'll sort them for you if you'd like

[inland shoal]

Lies, they aren't even in a 2x3 grid
I think it's just confusing cuz battle result screen and map sidebar are the other way round

[normal crane]

That'll be really helpful

[vagrant panther]

For Prinz rupprecht, which position is "above the flagship" in the formation view. I think it's the right slot?

[inland shoal]

Yes

[steady beacon]

Right slot, yep

[vagrant panther]

Danke

[normal crane]

I have 0 friends

[near oracle]

What are we then?

Am i just a plaything to u?

[normal crane]

😭😭😭

[whole crypt]

pili is just looking for excuses to find more METAs to test

[gusty olive]

hell yeah

[steady beacon]

Busted

I beg them every time there's a survey to make infinitely playable archive METAs, but so far no dice

[normal crane]

What's ur uid btw

[whole crypt]

we should just start with infinite assists, even if the fights don't give points after the first 3

[steady beacon]

I thought you're not meant to share those
Uhhhh... my IGN is Pilica so... if you search in the list it should be there...

[whole crypt]

at least past METAs there's usually some sort of established tactic

[steady beacon]

Anything to give me consistent META testing grounds tbh
It's not always instructive or helpful when I can only run tests against the Arbiter

[normal crane]

Ahh didn't know that, req sent

[whole crypt]

that's a mistake
there's 2 "UIDs" in the game

[tame orchid]

Is there a list of what auxilaries to put on each ship

[steady beacon]

Uhhhhh, what's the other one...?

[steady beacon]

Gotcha, accepted

[whole crypt]

the one you can share is the one in your ingame profile, which you use to add friends
there's another UID on the login screen which is the one you shouldn't share
I doubt yostar will restore your account based on profile ID without additional proof

[steady beacon]

Ah, I see...

[normal crane]

Support sent, thank you in advance

[whole crypt]

if you use the share button on your profile screen you get something like this https://twitter.com/nntktt/status/1781380854344036579/photo/1

this is a public-facing profile

[vagrant panther]

Question: is there any advantage of farming a higher level world apart from more gold/oil? Example is W14-x Vs W12-1. Been sticking to 12-1 for the PR exp grind

[atomic abyss]

The summary is
DD: 2 toolbox or toolbox + 550 HP aux
CL: toolbox + gold rudder
CA: toolbox + gold rudder or rudder + other evasion aux
CB: toolbox + rudder or rudder + VH plate

[tame orchid]

Ah thanks

[atomic abyss]

Backline is easy too

[tame orchid]

Im looking for BBs

[atomic abyss]

CV: Double catapult or beacon + catapult
BB: White + Black shell or White shell + HPRCR

[whole crypt]

more XP per run or per morale
potentially more XP per time
more chips per oil

[normal crane]

What's gold rudder?

[normal crane]

Ahh

[whole crypt]

just check tier list gear recs

[atomic abyss]

The high performance hydraulic steering gear

I suppose you can also call it a washing machine

[normal crane]

So i need lots of them?

[vagrant panther]

So assuming morale isn't an issue (ain't in a rush), there isn't any strong reason to go beyond 12-1 for farming since that's the best exp/oil that gives cogs yeah?

[whole crypt]

later in the game they're your primary evasion gear

[atomic abyss]

Yeeeep

[atomic abyss]

The most is push to 13 I suppose
Beyond that nah

[whole crypt]

yes, and usually not an issue if you're not short on chips or coins

[atomic abyss]

The issue is that for 13 you can't exactly gorrila strats

[vagrant panther]

Can do with 3 and keep rotating but yeah, anything beyond 3 is usually QOL improvements

[whole crypt]

13-1 isn't that hard
14-1 can also be used for grinding but not for the whole fleet

[normal crane]

I only have one atm

[tame orchid]

Uh where is that

[vagrant panther]

Slow and steady. One is enough if you're starting out. Keep it on your frontliner that is at the most risk of sinking

[tame orchid]

Sam's guide?

[whole crypt]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/ click on the ship's icon for the ship you want to check

[tame orchid]

Tysm

[vagrant panther]

Yep. 12-1 is just very comfortable, was wondering if it's the most efficient and if I was missing anything out

[whole crypt]

folks more often do 12-4 because higher xp/fight and more coins

[atomic abyss]

You could push to 12-4...

[whole crypt]

personally I swear by 12-1 if I go low because -1 is better XP and chip/oil

but the last time I did 12-1 was like over half a year ago I think

[atomic abyss]

I mean I did use to prefer 11-2 over 11-4

[vagrant panther]

Yeah I was weighing exp/oil Vs exp/fight. 12-1 is easier to level ships up since the difficulty is much lower but I 12-4 gives more medals and gold

[whole crypt]

nowadays I'm all 13-1 and 14-1

[atomic abyss]

12-1 and 12-4 aren't that different tho

[steady beacon]

OK @normal crane , that one's done
Do you need any more right now?

[normal crane]

I sent one already, i can do 11 more

[inland shoal]

If there's a private discussion of no interest to anyone else you can take it to dms

[vagrant panther]

Yep, pretty much the same, just that 12-4 there are more planes.

[whole crypt]

12-1 just lets you bring extra shit ships over 12-4

[steady beacon]

Right, gotcha, mb

[vagrant panther]

This.

[blazing shale]

3 star w14 lethal

[elfin hollow]

should I flagship shinano?

[whole crypt]

maybe? depends on what fleet is for and who the other ships are

[elfin hollow]

Yeah, I think for barrage

[whole crypt]

the butterflies are shit anyway

[steady beacon]

If there are (almost) any other ships that would like flagship (either for barrage or any other purposes), you'd generally put them flag over Shina

[robust jackal]

Is it better to grind levels for a sub fleet on a smaller map?

[steady beacon]

I've never quite figured out if it's necessarily better, but I do typically do it in 11-1 (which is reasonably small), on the assumption that a pretty large number of nodes will fall into my sub range without having to move
There might exist more efficient maps that I've just never tried though...

[late flame]

i just do 12-4 tbh

[inland shoal]

I just use raids to farm the affinity to 100 and use books tbh

[robust jackal]

Skills and affinity are capped just need to finish to 120

[steady beacon]

What one goes through for 125/200 tbh

[robust jackal]

That's where I'm grinding now but the range is hit or miss

[inland shoal]

You do that with all your subs?

[crisp wadi]

Do wolf packs good at w15? Coz i don't have fishes

[steady beacon]

No, just the ones I like

[late flame]

i might have overdone it a bit

[south sequoia]

They can do good enough but you just gotta time when they come out properly

if they come out too early or too late they get boiled or do nothing

sometimes both

[steady beacon]

Boiled
Damn, I like that

Perfect description of what happened to my subs in W15

[late flame]

could be worse.. i mean, like using pirates

[south sequoia]

if you're using pirates might as well just not use subs at all

lol

[inland shoal]

Poor sea slug

[robust jackal]

Are the tempesta that bad?

[late flame]

yup. outside of submarine weekly meme

[steady beacon]

It's more that being on the surface with 0 base AA is a bad idea in W15

[inland shoal]

Not rly they just die easily

[normal crane]

Is it worth it to mlb Tirpitz for tech points?

[late flame]

i think so yes but then i will mlb her cos booba anyway

[inland shoal]

If you can make them survive they're decent

[gloomy mesa]

Which augment on laffey?

[robust jackal]

If you're running out of higher valued tech point ships yes

[south sequoia]

if they can survive they're great, but not a lot of content can enable them to survive
the only real notable content that they can survive in is like CM

[inland shoal]

If you can spare the gold bulins

[steady beacon]

Her unique, if you can

[late flame]

too bad that pillow cant be used for laff2

[steady beacon]

In before this is LaffII

[viscid swift]

I doubt you're in a position to worry about augs

[late flame]

augment* isnt exactly cheap for newer players yeah.. until one can consistently farm w11+

[normal crane]

I still need 230 tech points to start developing Friedrich

[gloomy mesa]

Any packs that are worth buying? Very tempted by the 5 bucks one that let's me skip straight to lvl 70 and gives me a bunch of ship exp.

Also what should I buy in this shop?

[late flame]

you can do /protocore in #bot-spam

[gloomy mesa]

Thanks

What about the packs?

[late flame]

depends on your budget really.
nothing is a must - packs are just mostly timeskips

[gloomy mesa]

Oh okay

What lvl do I need to unlock w8?

[plain saffron]

/wiki 8-1

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/8-1
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/8-4
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/8-2
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/8-3
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/8-5

May 14, 2024, 1:14 PM

[gloomy mesa]

Currently in w7 but it's not exactly a challenge so I should be done with it fairly soon

The F!? Lvl 60

That pack sounds more and more tempting by the minute

[steady beacon]

I'm amused that the page for 8-5 still exists 👀

[plain saffron]

i mean, why delete it

[late flame]

totally not confusing for new players

[plain saffron]

but people don't read wiki anyway

[steady beacon]

Omit wiki and the statement remains true tbh

[whole crypt]

where is 14-5

[plain saffron]

why would you need wiki for 14 minus 5, use a calculator smh my head

[blissful hamlet]

Was 14-5 ever existed?

[whole crypt]

no

[blissful hamlet]

[steady beacon]

In a certain way, you could say 14-3 and 14-4 were it really...
Since previously subs never could appear in campaign outside of the SOS maps...

[gloomy mesa]

What does red and green mean?

[gloomy mesa]

How the f did I not see that?

[steady beacon]

Lots of info on the page tbh
You aren't the first person to have missed the legend

[plain saffron]

ngl i go and checked it and also missed it

[gloomy mesa]

Does that mean that the other things are kinda meh?

[steady beacon]

Incidentally, I gotta ask Sam next time what is the criterion for "niche usage" bc... Saiun and Agir gun...
Are kinda mainstream I thought...

[plain saffron]

if it's meh it won't be in the img at all~~ iirc~~ yeah that's right

all are good in that img

[icy mountain]

How do you level ur subs?

[late flame]

deploying them / dorm / exp books

[steady beacon]

#gameplay-help message
I can't speak for everyone, but I at least just level as per normal, only really choosing a slightly more conducive map (or, at least, I think it is)
You just have to accept it's slower than for other ships

[gloomy mesa]

What do I use my specialized cores on?

[plain saffron]

exp pack/dorm until max lvl, then farm affinity when there's raid event, or maybe lvl until almost max lvl then the rest in raid event

there's also secretary affinity

[viscid swift]

UR bullins when you need them

[gloomy mesa]

Do I start buying them now so I have a stash by the time I get an ur?

[late flame]

UR bulin mainly, and then retrofitting certain ships

buy only when need

[steady beacon]

Don't spend the cores, to keep your dock space free
Only buy when you're already ready to (M)LB

[icy mountain]

auto sub right? currently at 11-4 cuz lvl78

[gusty olive]

Bulins are one hell of a docks space eater

[late flame]

personally i prefer manual call if i do not want subs to grab mvp
then again my subs are armed to the teeth with bidders
if you are levelling subs and want affnity gain i guess auto-call works

[gloomy mesa]

What augment on unicorn, finally haver retrofit

[viscid swift]

if you just retrofitted her then you shouldn't really be focused on augments

save your cores for the few good unique augs

[steady beacon]

... Uh, if I remember the size of 11-4... I can imagine that to be somewhat less efficient tbh

[gloomy mesa]

Okay thanks

[undone plover]

which subs are u levelling? wouldnt invest much in sth subpar. especially since they are a such a nuisance to level

[late flame]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleetbuilding#sub_fleet (scroll down a bit)

[grizzled lion]

Who should I MLB first? New Jersey or shinano?

[late flame]

depends..
do you have haku? then shinano
do you lack bbs? then nj

[grizzled lion]

Those the only 2 urs I have 🤣

[late flame]

then save first

[viscid swift]

neither, wait for the CN Anni

[grizzled lion]

Both are on last tier and I can exchange for a dupe at the moment. Or how much longer till the urs in exchange change out?

[viscid swift]

it doesn't change, the only thing that changes is new ships are added

[late flame]

i suppose you could do a coin toss and get whichever

[plain saffron]

wait for next event to see if it's BB or CV

[slender jackal]

I got weird question about PVP that I noticed... Whenever FDG does her Salvo it doesn't reach main ships of enemy... Is it my mistake or just FDG problem?

[plain saffron]

does the ship have a bar next to them?

[grizzled lion]

@viscid swift you're telling me, that those 2 ships are the only ones that's been in the exchange pit?

[fluid brook]

Might wanna go ask to #pvp

[vast sparrow]

Got this on my depot, I don't remember how got it...where should I put it?

[plain saffron]

yes because they just added less than a year ago

[slender jackal]

Got it chief sorry

[plain saffron]

it's a new thing

[viscid swift]

for now yes

[late flame]

more will be added in future

[viscid swift]

perma URs only became a thing this past January

[fluid brook]

In any ship, thats an average AA gun mostly used as accelerator but that stuff is to min max

[grizzled lion]

So when is the next event gonna be or is there no answer just yet?

[undone plover]

generally BB are more useful early on
however shinano is still in meta late game fleets whereas NJ is a bit powercrept (except in PvP)
so both choices are good.
or u could wait till CN anni and decide then

[plain saffron]

most likely 23, stream on 17th

[late flame]

if you are now on 400/400 might as well exchange it. either is fine

[grizzled lion]

Ok. And will I keep adding points to the exchange pot? Or does it max at the 400?

[plain saffron]

it max at 400

[late flame]

maxxed 400

[fluid brook]

Unless you claim it, then it will just reset

[grizzled lion]

Ok. So I should definitely pull as I will most likely be able to exchange by then any way

[plain saffron]

UR banner doesn't count to that pity, it count to that banner pity

[fluid brook]

UR Event pity and Perma pity are diff and wont reflect each other count

[grizzled lion]

Ah

[plain saffron]

event without UR does add to permanent pity

[grizzled lion]

Damn 🤣 so why were people telling me to wait. Unless a new ur is being added to the exchange pot sooner than later

[undone plover]

my advice is wait till 17th at least. u only forfeit 2 points. we should know the new UR hull by then

[fluid brook]

UR events are the only events that got pity

[plain saffron]

because that bulin might ber better spent on that new UR
or
that UR is a BB/CV that might be better paired with NJ/Shinano, we don't know

tbh it not much loss if you claim now, just slower, so up to you

[tame orchid]

Btw should i spent UR bulins on shinano

[grizzled lion]

So far. I don't have a ur bullin. Just wanted to be ready to MLB once I got one

[undone plover]

same advice. better wait 3 days before spending UR bulins

[plain saffron]

tbh i prefer maxing NJ/shinano first if you have none, but maybe the new UR will be broken with only 1/2 LB who knows

[frozen phoenix]

1. what are datakeys
2. how do i get them

[plain saffron]

you use 1 key each time you enter a stage in War Archive, WA is old event map added to permanent. 2. same place where you access the stages, top left

[late flame]

used for war archives
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/War_Archives

[tame orchid]

You get datakeys everyday(i forgot how many, 4 or 6?)

[grizzled lion]

Top left war archives every day. You get 4 keys per day

[late flame]

do folks even read wiki

[plain saffron]

side note: it's safe to ignore them, you not missing much

[grizzled lion]

It's so confusing in certain areas

[plain saffron]

vulkar are you trying to get gph banned or something

[fluid brook]

Sorry i am i middle of studying some stuff so i am also confused

[plain saffron]

smh my head imagine studying

[grizzled lion]

@plain saffron I was reading that it could help with shipyard tech points for researching new ships

[fluid brook]

I will just see from now on

[plain saffron]

yeah usually recommended to farm and get KMS ships if you need the points, i guess you're reading the sam's guide now

[grizzled lion]

@plain saffron idk what it was. But it was linked for me the other day when asking about iron blood tech points for shipyard

[plain saffron]

[grizzled lion]

Also. That was about the only bit of info that retained as it was all confusing and seemed like it was all before 2020

[plain saffron]

do you have the link

[grizzled lion]

I do not 🤣

This was like 2 ir 3 days ago. I just happened to click it. Go through several pages and then came back with refined questions 🤣

Almost done with saint Louis. And then this one next

[undone plover]

could try for anchorage if KMS points arent ready but anchorage req is also a bit high

[unreal cave]

W15 fleet building

[normal crane]

Can i put helena and helena meta together? Or just one of em is fine?

[frank pulsar]

helena meta kinda nowadays
id rather just use helena even if shes not properly synced

[steady beacon]

Really depends on what you want to do
I wouldn't state a single definitive principle on their combination that could work in every single instance

[forest palm]

Helena Meta is a waste of space to a vanguard that's already filled with a combination of Hindenburg, Unzen, Plymouth, Sirius, Kazagumo, Aurora, or CBs

[gloomy mesa]

Does Portland have any damage? If yes I guess I did her dirty somehow

[gloomy mesa]

Does that mean I shouldn't retrofit her?

[frank pulsar]

dont your tank to do as much dmg as your dps
portland should have reasonable dmg amongst tanks though

[viscid swift]

you can't retrofit Helena META....

you should retro Helena in due time though

[gloomy mesa]

NVM, was talking about Helena. Missed the meta part

[frank pulsar]

helena retrofit only matters in mid game onwards, shes pretty low prio if youre new player

[gloomy mesa]

Already done with laffey and unicorn, almost done with Portland

[frank pulsar]

finish portland then

[gloomy mesa]

Then Helena? Or is there someone else I should do first?

[eternal moth]

Nelson if you're running her

[gloomy mesa]

Also is unicorn supposed to deal More damage then laffey?

[eternal moth]

She can; that's the advantage of preload

[gloomy mesa]

Was planning to build her so I can replace penny

[viscid swift]

don't take end screen damage at face value

[eternal moth]

[gloomy mesa]

The statistics of the battle seem lacking in detail all together

[atomic abyss]

They always have, and that's why they should not be used as an accurate indicator of dps

[viscid swift]

this isn't exactly WoWs

[forest palm]

doesn't account for Flood, or Burn Damage, mixes AA Damage with Weapon Damage, ya the end screen is kind of shit to read more often than not

[lone vigil]

is houshou any good?

[viscid swift]

no

[atomic abyss]

Nope

[soft raft]

outside of CV RLD tech, no

[lone vigil]

retire?

[jaunty vault]

sure

[eager mulch]

keep

+1 cv rld

[low harness]

at the end last month in Opsi i noticed that i have alot of excess AP Refill boxes in my storage, whats the best thing i can use it for?

[atomic abyss]

Retire if you're not gonna be expanding dock much
But given how hard she is to get...
Maybe make an exception

[viscid swift]

farm C5 secured until you run out

[normal crane]

How good is shinano?¹

[jaunty vault]

7-4 grind go brr

[low harness]

ahh will do, thank you

[lone vigil]

just got fubuki from my daily ship build any good keep or retire?

[eager mulch]

shitnano good

[atomic abyss]

Which Shinano

[soft raft]

which one? the UR or Chibi

[normal crane]

UR

[viscid swift]

don't retire unique copies of ships

[atomic abyss]

Retire if no dock space

[soft raft]

good
but not at 0LB

[eternal moth]

She's a UR, do you really need more?

[eager mulch]

less than mlb is shitnano, mlb is good

unless you use double converging torps and miss them all

[verbal mulch]

Warspite is UR too

[normal crane]

I can mlb her, i was thinking of building 2 fleets since i only use one fleet until chap 11

[eternal moth]

I'd hold off and see what the UR coming out in a week is

[viscid swift]

don't with a new UR due in a week

[soft raft]

welp she's a exception
Not to mention she's not a gacha UR

[lone vigil]

If i have all dorm base training slots unlocked how do i get more

[eager mulch]

2nd floor

[lone vigil]

how

[eager mulch]

fully expand first floor

[lone vigil]

ok ty

[smoky palm]

Im kinda confused.. wtf determines whether defeating an enemy ship in battle in OpSi gives XP or not? Like is there a way to know before the battle? Because sometimes I get XP and sometimes I just get 0

And yes I've already completed the campaign..

[viscid swift]

the color of the enemy

[smoky palm]

Color?

Like red vs blue?

[viscid swift]

yes

[steady beacon]

Yep
Blue doesn't give exp

[smoky palm]

So I'm assuming the blue ones are the ones that don't give XP?

Ahhh, wish that had been more obvious to me 💀

Trying to grind Commander level right now since I'm 99.5

So close to the big 100 after starting in late January

[grizzled lion]

@eager mulch What's the easiest way to get the decor coins? Cause I'm trying to do that exact same thing at the moment.

[gloomy mesa]

Okay might be messing up so u better ask, I have hood and Nelson. Who is going to replace penny? Should I focus on Nelson and retro her or focus on hood?

[atomic abyss]

Hood first
Nelson can wait since she must get retro to be good

[undone plover]

commissions probably. not much else u can do about it. check your dorm every so often the shipgirl can "find" coins

[grizzled lion]

😭 damn. How many expansions are there until you unlock 2nd floor?

[viscid swift]

3

[gloomy mesa]

But hood needs to hit MLB before I can put her in, right?

[viscid swift]

at least

[atomic abyss]

But so does Nelson

[gloomy mesa]

Okay, thanks

[soft raft]

it is strongly reccomended to MLB ships you're using asap

[grizzled lion]

Ok. So not so bad. Is it 1000 per expansion? I know the 2nd 1 is. The 1st 1 I did in gems unfortunately

[gloomy mesa]

So After nelsons retrofit, will she replace hood?

[atomic abyss]

Nope
She'll go to fleet 2 if anything
I wouldn't prioritise Nelson retro as a new player

Not when uni, port and starter take quite a considerable bit of time

[grizzled lion]

🤔 but as far as I know, I've only done 1 expansion.

[soft raft]

are you talking about the dorm slot expansion or the dorm floor expansion?

[grizzled lion]

Dorm floor.

[gloomy mesa]

Have uni, starter done, I'll probably be finished wirt Portland tomorrow

[grizzled lion]

@soft raft I know the slot takes gems.

[soft raft]

odd
cuz only the expansion to 2nd floor should take gems

[grizzled lion]

@soft raft you have the option to buy the expansion tickets with gems

I think. Idk. I have a bad memory. All I know is I used gems at one point for some expansion. 🤣

[gloomy mesa]

Say I'd be able to retrofit Nelson would she replace hood at that point?

[soft raft]

#gameplay-help message

[atomic abyss]

Nelson has some cases where she is better than Hood admittedly
But I wouldn't replace Hood personally

[gloomy mesa]

Missed the first part, my bad

What am I supposed to farm after finishing w7, cause apparently I need lvl 60 before I can start w8 and I only just hit 50

[grizzled lion]

I know I know. I screwed up and used gems in a bad way 🤣 I'm trying to make up for it at the moment

[atomic abyss]

If you're stuck due to that
Grind 7-4 then

[soft raft]

Ferby, ender wasnt replying to you

[grizzled lion]

@gloomy mesa if ya ain't hard up on money. There is a lvl 70 boost for 5 bucks 🤣

[gloomy mesa]

I was already thinking about that more than once today 😂

[grizzled lion]

@soft raft I know. It was in response to the hyper Stare reactions to me using gems on a form floor expansion s 🤣

[viscid swift]

Passionate Polaris SP5

[grizzled lion]

@gloomy mesa I did it just cause I had enough Google play points for 5 dollars in credit

[gloomy mesa]

Sweet

[soft raft]

That pack is very whatever imo
all it really does besides make you able to acess content you're prob not fully ready for is flood your depot with shittons of gear, most of which is meh

[jaunty vault]

[grizzled lion]

@soft raft I get that. But I was ready and did take on the next world. It's the daily raids that were the problem 🤣

[gloomy mesa]

The exp is what is drawing me in, but technically of the same opinion as you

[viscid swift]

maybe actually take a look at what gear is included

[jaunty vault]

lvl70 pack is like the best value for money a new player can get

assuming you plan to soend money

[viscid swift]

quite a bit of junk yes but also quite a lot of goos stuff as well

at +6 already too

[grizzled lion]

@viscid swift definitely helped get me beyond where I was stuck for sure

[gloomy mesa]

Btw should I already be looking out for a replacement for Shinano-chan?

[gloomy mesa]

Honestly that pack is extremely tempting. And considering how low I am on oil it'll probably take ages before I farmed myself up to lvl 70

[soft raft]

she works fine until you get Enterprise

[gloomy mesa]

Meaning MLB, got it 😑

[atomic abyss]

^

[gloomy mesa]

I know, I know, guess I'll take this as a chance to practice my patience

[lone vigil]

what are some easily accesible ships for tanking damage

[atomic abyss]

Portland retrofit

[tame jungle]

Portland retrofit

[gloomy mesa]

Apparently Portland and Prince Eugene

[atomic abyss]

Eugen is not someone you want to raise, however

[thorny basalt]

If I'm sitting at 36/60 avi and 24/40 reload for CV fleet tech what's the better one to focus on at this point? Maxing reload or bumping avi stat?

[atomic abyss]

If you've already gotten Portland
Work towards Anchorage I suppose

[lone vigil]

anyone else? i got too many portlands

cause i need someonefor second fleet or do I just use both portlands

[atomic abyss]

No, you don't need 2 tanks where you're at likely

Are you even at the point where you need a second fleet

[gloomy mesa]

Where do I find this lady?

[viscid swift]

up to you, more AVI stat is always useful whereas reload is only really beneficial if it allows you to hit certain breakpoints

[atomic abyss]

She's in research series 4

And is the main tank for mid game AL

At least till you get Agir

At least for the permanent options

[thorny basalt]

I was kind of thinking like for META purposes having max available strikes would be useful even if they aren't as strong. Right now in Rodney Meta the last strike goes off after she enters invuln state

[steady beacon]

She can main tank after mid game, I do wanna say in her defence 👀

[lone vigil]

also whats an easy way to get thew retrofit blueprints or can i only get them from hardmode

[atomic abyss]

I mean, I shd rephrase
She's the primary choice of tank

[gloomy mesa]

Hard mode and shop

[atomic abyss]

Mainly hard mode yes

[viscid swift]

but would having trhat 16 extra reload tech actually allow you to get that last extra strike

crunch the numbers and go from there

[thorny basalt]

I don't know TBH. It's kind of close

[viscid swift]

exactly, that 16 extra reload tech may very well do nothing practically

[thorny basalt]

But I'm also having to use the faster and crappier planes

[gloomy mesa]

Agir who?

[steady beacon]

Short and sweet, the answer really depends on the specific circumstances
But all the top comps are contingent on max CV/BB RLD, and any deviations will require you to gimp your aircraft/gun setups

[atomic abyss]

I mean you're not gonna get her for months
Just focus on the task at hand for now

[viscid swift]

they also usually run 200 affinity main fleets

[gloomy mesa]

Also does formidable √ have any use?

[thorny basalt]

Yeah. I'm almost maxed on BB, only missing Conte di Cavour for that tech

[viscid swift]

not particularly

[gloomy mesa]

Nice

Lol so far all my SRS are useless, besides hood

[steady beacon]

I should note, by the way, that in no comp currently in existence can every member of the backline hit their maximum number of strikes
Because you have to arrange their cooldowns to dodge Dimensional Transcendence

So you have typically 4-4-3 or 4-3-3, depending on the ship setup

[atomic abyss]

There is a reason why we don't recommend new players to raise any and all golds after all

[steady beacon]

Or, if you manual, 3-3-3 bc we don't need to gimp anything

[warm flax]

So is it possible to still hit another air strike with max rld without 💍

[steady beacon]

Yes

[atomic abyss]

For RodM? You'd need to scuff quite a bit but yes

[thorny basalt]

Not looking forward to grinding all that trash to get that tech. Wish I had started that sooner but oh well

[gloomy mesa]

Have laffey MLB, do I Just retire any extra copies?

[steady beacon]

If it makes you feel any better... at least now you don't have to grind a non-retro'd Chen Hai

[eager mulch]

save one for retrofit maybe but turn all others into

[gloomy mesa]

Done

[thorny basalt]

I waited on that one until after retro and it was still kind of painful

[viscid swift]

Yeah, that goes for most of the ships in general
just for reference, ut of every single ship in the permanent pools, here are the ships I would say are actually worth raising for use and not just tech
Light: Kazagumo, Jeanne d'Arc, Aurora, Yat Sen
Heavy: Shinano, NJ, Hood, Howe, San Fransisco, Tallinn, Nelson
Special: Shinano, NJ, Enterprise, Theseus, Shangri-La, Archerfish, U-37, U-81, U-47, Saratoga, Ark Royal, Unicorn

comapred to the total that's nothing and there's plenty of caveats among even that lot

[silk sphinx]

Standards for “good” have risen

[steady beacon]

A good call tbh lol
Dragging pre-retro Chen Hai to 120 is... not something I hope to ever do again

[strong tartan]

Tai Yuan isn't in perma right?

[viscid swift]

Kawakaze isn't in the light pool

[strong tartan]

I think I'm imagining things

[cobalt rapids]

it was just a pat emote

[viscid swift]

she's in the guild shop

[strong tartan]

oh right

[thorny basalt]

I still have to use hwah jah though. Not quite as bad as Chen Hai but still going to be mind numbing

[silk sphinx]

Chen hai is better due to retro

[viscid swift]

we do not talk about pre retro Chen Hai

[silk sphinx]

Wait is hwah jah now the worst cvl?

[viscid swift]

yes

[steady beacon]

If it's any consolation...
Max RLD tech... is something worth all that suffering
Or, at least, I've managed to convince myself of that
Being able to do what is otherwise impossible is valuable to me

[cobalt rapids]

max tech is something worth

[silk sphinx]

If it’s backline tech then it’s not that much trouble… I’m close to done

[viscid swift]

I mean went for it first as well

[silk sphinx]

Only aa and eva left… and cvl asw

[viscid swift]

and it's very definitely useful to have when you need it, but trying to be completely objective it, it is the most situational of AVI, HIT, and RLD tech

[silk sphinx]

For what it’s worth, I expect that once I’ll be done with backline tech I’ll still have two thirds of vanguard tech to do

[viscid swift]

can confirm

by the time I actually finished all relevant main fleet tech I wasn't even done with DD FP yet

[silk sphinx]

I actually went for cl and ca fp first tbh since I use dds so much less

But well so much to do…

[viscid swift]

yep

now even as go through all none tech relevant main fleet tech I've still got something like 40% of CA fp to finish

[thorny basalt]

All mine is basically non-existent save for BB reload. I still haven't even gotten royal navy and iron blood to level 9 yet lmao

[steady beacon]

Ngl, as a side effect of my inefficiency, I still have a lot of BB FP tech to do tbh
CV tech of importance is done
And I think Mikasa left for BB ACC
Really, once I got max RLD I stopped worrying about the specifics...
That was the only one that was necessary for my wants

[silk sphinx]

Some of us grind a lot, and cheeky and I have played for multiple years

[hollow gust]

Pretty sure lvl8 vs lvl9 doesn't effect backline stats

[silk sphinx]

You’ll get there eventually

[hollow gust]

Still skill issue

[viscid swift]

yep, cogs are the main bottleneck anyway

[viscid swift]

tbf, I didn't give a sh*t about tech for what 1 and a half 2 years

[thorny basalt]

Same.

[viscid swift]

I am the same person who bought out literally every single ship from the core data shop before buying any gear after all

[steady beacon]

I feel a tiny bit better about my oxytorp, if so

[silk sphinx]

I mostly just farmed from WA

[viscid swift]

yeah, that was before oil caps were a thing and I really couldn't be bothered to make a low cost fleet for that

[silk sphinx]

Says the b1 farmer

[cobalt rapids]

#gameplay-diaries

[viscid swift]

quite the glow up I know

[steady beacon]

By seeking and blundering, we learn
Which is at least part of the point of this channel, I'd think...

[jaunty vault]

no if youre wrong, you get bullied into quitting gph

[steady beacon]

[strong tartan]

the key is to say i think

[sullen creek]

Everything said here becomes a fact

[summer basin]

I'll kick you out of here for free

Now back to it lads

[eternal moth]

[grizzled lion]

@viscid swift wait. Are we not supposed to get the ships from that shop before any weapons? 🤣

[viscid swift]

I would highly reccomend against it

[hollow gust]

U can farm that shit , no need for grabbing it

[viscid swift]

Section 1.1.2: Core Data Shop Only Ships

Again, there isn’t much to be here. The ships exclusive to the Core Data Shop will be bought whenever you have the spare Core Data. I highly recommend getting the equipment you’ll need from the Core Data first, mainly a few pairs of Black and White Shells. I would recommend seeing Sam’s Core Data Priority Guide for more info.

[steady beacon]

Grab Indy
The other ships in there are... hmmmm...
Typically not worth core data until you have too much of it already...

[hollow gust]

Independence and maaaaybe roon u

[grizzled lion]

Hhmm. I need to learn not to want to collect every shiny 😭🤣

[viscid swift]

Prelude/Preface
Now before diving in, there are a few things that I need to explain so that some of what I say later on makes more sense and just some good advice to have at the beginning of this journey.

Getting to 100% Collection Rate in Azur Lane will take at minimum around 2 years, on average it will be closer to 3 so take your time.

Getting to 100% Collection Rate will require you to clear all the Main Campaign so you will need to learn how the game works.

The reason why getting to 100% will take around 3 years is that inevitably you will have missed some events, some possibly by just a few days so you’ll have to wait for those events to be rerun or if they’ve already rerun for the ships to be made permanently available(the average turn around time for even reruns is about 2 years and 1.5 years for ships to added to the permanent pools after their rerun). So with that in mind the biggest piece of advice I have is to be patient when going for 100%, don’t get caught up trying to get that one specific ship right at this point because ultimately it won’t help you get to 100% any faster as you’ll still be waiting for some event limited ships most likely and it will require more effort and resources compared to later down the line.

You will also need to have some understanding of how the game works and how to approach content as getting 100% collection rate will necessitate you to clear some of the hardest content in the game such as Chapter 15 of the main campaign. You don’t need to grasp everything immediately or do everything completely optimally but having a good understanding of the game early on will help greatly. If you’re new to Azur Lane I recommend reading Riceist’s Newbie Tips if you haven’t already.

TLDR: Don’t come to start with the mindset of being a collector especially early on, get yourself well acquainted with the game and get yourself in a good spot resource-wise before going into collector mode.

yeah, let's just say there's a reason I preface a Guide to 100% with that

[eager mulch]

I’m not reading all that

[grizzled lion]

@eager mulch Takes less than a minute to read 🤣

[steady beacon]

Recall that this is EN

[plain saffron]

Is that a wall of text. In gph

[grizzled lion]

@viscid swift I've always had the bad habit of trying to collect. It's a bad habit for most mobile gachas these days as well. So it's getting to where i only go after the things I like more than just random. But still trying to fully kick that habit

@plain saffron luckily it was just a pice of info from a guide. But it helped out a bit for sure.

[viscid swift]

You can do that in AL, just not at the beggining when you have limited resources

[steady beacon]

TLDR, set a realistic timeline

[viscid swift]

I even added a TLDR smh

[steady beacon]

You overestimate EN's ability to read complete sentences

[grizzled lion]

EN?

[novel condor]

[steady beacon]

Dw, it's just a joke (probably)
The idea that players in EN (i.e. the Azur Lane servers in English) are unable to read

[inland shoal]

Did you just call EN a joke?

[grizzled lion]

@steady beacon 😒

[eager mulch]

jokes not allowed in gph

[novel condor]

Or thorin gonna mute us

[steady beacon]

So, in other words, EN really is unable to read, got it

[eager mulch]

when is the next UR (supposedly) after CN anni

[viscid swift]

honestley it's a coin toss if Vanguard reruns before the JP Anni

[eager mulch]

how long after CN anni is JP anni

[wispy pendant]

Sept?

[viscid swift]

4 months or so

[steady beacon]

Just under 4 months

[eager mulch]

[viscid swift]

but bearing in mind we have seen stretches of 5 months between reruns

[eager mulch]

I just need to see my spec core income before the next few new URs

[wispy pendant]

ryza rerun soon, I can feel it

[grizzled lion]

So wait. I was told to wait to exchange for a ur. But now you guys are saying next ur is after this next ordeal?

[wispy pendant]

exchange UR is not the same as a new UR or rerun UR

[steady beacon]

I mean, when one UR is over, the next one is the next ordeal

[eager mulch]

I’m caught up on reruns but I’m gonna need to pull for a few ships cause of my prior brain damage

[wispy pendant]

If you're at 400 now, just pick NJ or Shinana

[grizzled lion]

Ok. So how long do those events usually last? That way I can start stacking the cube things for building.

[viscid swift]

this upcoming event should last 3 weeks

[tame jungle]

how many cubes do you have

[wispy pendant]

reruns one week I think, new UR 3 weeks for JP/CN, Winter and Spring UR 2 weeks

[steady beacon]

New UR event is 3 weeks if CN/JP anni (May/Sept)
Otherwise, new event is typically 2 weeks

[viscid swift]

reruns are one week

and CN and JP Anni events are 3 weeks

everything else is 2 weeks

[inland shoal]

LNY too it seems

[steady beacon]

Except when it's CNY anyway

Gdi, Thorin...

[inland shoal]

[viscid swift]

it remains to be seen if that'll be a new norm tbh

[inland shoal]

I think the data is about as good as the one for the UR event schedule

[viscid swift]

well you're talking about one precedence vs one that has repeated at least a few times now

[inland shoal]

Ah URs are another year older than I thought, now I feel old again

[steady beacon]

Tbf wasn't this year more or less because of the unusually late date of CNY relative to the normal time we'd have that event

[viscid swift]

I believe so yes

[inland shoal]

Probably
Was there nothing extended due to holiday the year before though, I vaguely recall sth

[steady beacon]

I guess, for safety, always just assume the smaller figure for times tbh
At least if you're working with that deadpan pessimist estimate I have for cube income

Which incidentally doesn't even really apply anymore because they are perfectly happy to slap us with reruns the week immediately after a new event...

[inland shoal]

Just don't drop below 400 cubes

[steady beacon]

Very good advice

[eager mulch]

I’m afraid of dropping below 1000 cubes

[icy mountain]

i dont have gold subs atm just non mlb purple subs

[eternal basalt]

NJ extended due to CN finals, then Shimikaze extended... after that 3 year became norm

[night pumice]

what should I do with copies of elite ships that I already have at mlb

[viscid swift]

retire them for medals

[eternal basalt]

Scrap / Retrofit

[whole crypt]

NJ was originally announced 2 weeks then extended after CN asked about gaokao
off the top of my head Shimakaze wasn't full 3 weeks, probably was working around Oct GW
Vanguard just went straight to 3 weeks

Musashi should be the first time JP 3 full weeks

[steady beacon]

Depending on your ability/willingness to try fishing for the gold subs (e.g. in wishing wells), it may not be a completely bad idea to still train up purples
I took a year, for instance, to finally complete a gold sub fleet... after I had done W14 and even a Hard Arbiter with a purple sub fleet
But, of course, you can simply choose to postpone the more difficult content rather than adopt lower-level options... it's up to you

[undone plover]

Then tbh u probably should wait to get u37 from merit shop and u96 from medal shop and use one of the purple U boats as your last one.
But idk about purple subs

[lone vigil]

any good rare ships worth using that can work just as well or similar to portland

[whole crypt]

Jintsuu/Moshiro/Unzen has been giving me 100% oneshot with barrage, assists feel like around 50%

[eternal basalt]

Shima was extended: September 16th, 2021 - October 3rd, 2021

[atomic abyss]

if you mean similar in terms of low rarity stonks, there are some
by role none

[steady beacon]

Sounds correct

[whole crypt]

Shimakaze was longer than 2 weeks but it was announced as is, not as an extension IIRC

[lone vigil]

which ones

[whole crypt]

and that's not 3 full weeks

[eternal basalt]

Pretty sure it wasn't actually meant to more than 2 weeks, but its 3 years ago now

[whole crypt]

well Musashi was 3 full weeks and 2022 was the first year CN and JP both went 3 weeks, repeated in 2023

[atomic abyss]

Ranger (w/ retro), Casablanca, Phoenix, Isuzu (w/ retro), Juneau (w/ retro), Kagerou (w/ retro + aug), shouhou (w/ retro)

[eternal basalt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/w/index.php?title=Call_to_Arms:_Sakura_Empire&diff=next&oldid=150049

[atomic abyss]

the only one that still sees use for some players is probably juneau?
tho kagerou is pretty strong, just has a lot of competition

[whole crypt]

that's the CTA though

[steady beacon]

Well, there probably are still players who engage in Ranger infinite damage memes

[atomic abyss]

fair

[eternal basalt]

Can't be bothered to check event, I just knew CtA was extended since it was not during NJ's extension

[whole crypt]

yeh but the main event itself I don't remember it being an extension

[eternal basalt]

Seems it wasn't

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/w/index.php?title=Upon_the_Shimmering_Blue&diff=259921&oldid=150076 you made the page even before the CTA update with those dates

[eternal basalt]

Guess I got confused by CtA back then

[whole crypt]

shrug maybe CN asked for more time to do MLBs for CTA because NJ didn't give them time

[steady beacon]

What CN asketh, CN gets

[eager mulch]

EN normally gets wishing well with CN anni right

[whole crypt]

all regions do

[eager mulch]

do what

[ionic edge]

any grinding event this week?

[viscid swift]

no

[steady beacon]

Apart from grinding points for Spee if you want to, anyway

(but you don't have to do anything special/extra for it)

[sullen creek]

And a few weeks ago you were telling me Moshiro is worse than base Noshi

[whole crypt]

she is outside of Rodney M

METAs always make you do random things for gimmick reasons, like no one would recommend you to use dual boilers on your vanguard outside of Arizona M

if you can afford to invest in her for better oneshot chances for this META that's up to you, I still won't recommend raising her for regular use

[eternal basalt]

Yes, with JP anni only JP and CN get since we get it our on anni, but CN is all

[glass quest]

what kind of Torpedos should be used on Ägir? I picked up that the 533mm Triple Magnetic Torpedo Mount is the best choice for her but I dont get why

[eager mulch]

timing with her slow

[keen sable]

She needs to hit (mag) and sync (triple)

[glass quest]

so 533mm Triple Magnetic Torpedo would be a better choice rather than the 533mm Quadruple Magnetic Torpedo?

[eager mulch]

if you care about her slow yes

[steady beacon]

Also depends on who you're trying to sync with

[inland shoal]

What if I'm trying to sync with you?

[jaunty vault]

no homo

[worldly pewter]

[steady beacon]

Given the proclivities of my playstyle with Agir, it would be the Iris Triple 550mm torps, if you must know...

[sweet delta]

🕹️ with

[sullen creek]

I do be joysticking with her

[steady beacon]

Actually, on double checking, I lied...
It was trip mags last two months...
I think because I didn't want to take them from Avrora...
Possibly...
Def 550s for Hermit though

[still gate]

will pity in permanent selector and event related one (limited ur selector) stack?

[cobalt rapids]

they dont affect each other

[eager mulch]

they don’t stack

[still gate]

well as expected. i have another question. when i was playing like 6 or 10 monthes ago (i remember unzen and shimakaze banners) event related pity required 200 cubes spent to get ur ship so why would people always save 400 cubes? i dont rememeber. is it because ur from this selector is random? like after 200 cubes pity allows you to get either limited or permanent ur and if you didnt get limited one you will 100% get it from pity after next 200 cubes?

[eager mulch]

it was never 200 cubes spent it’s always been 400

[still gate]

was it?

[inland shoal]

Yep, 200 pulls = 400 cubes

[eager mulch]

200 builds = 400 cubes

[still gate]

maybe it were 200 constructions?

[tame jungle]

Yes

[steady beacon]

As always, our problem is the standardisation of nomenclature

[still gate]

another question. where to get decent anti airs? i remembered why i left. my main fleet used to die no matter how hard i try.

[cobalt rapids]

research and gearlab and techboxes as all gear

[steady beacon]

A topic deserving of its entire own wiki page tbh
Lots of possible reasons...
Poor AA, poor AA guns, no intercepting planes, I'm probably forgetting others

[inland shoal]

You think so? Remember that the wiki isn't meant to be a guide

[tame jungle]

There’s enough resources on AA tbh, people just need to know where to look

[atomic abyss]

basic AA mechanics are pretty straightforward

[cobalt rapids]

~~looks at cn wiki ~~

[atomic abyss]

it's min maxing AA that leads you down a long ass rabbit hole

[tame jungle]

I banish you to the spreadsheet 💔

[steady beacon]

Uhhhhhhh 👀
Tbf I wasn't intending to imply it should have its own wiki page
Was more trying to convey that the full depth of it is a complex topic
Basically what Ender said

[atomic abyss]

it's the understanding of such mechanics that lead me to never recommend chucking roombas blindly

[worldly bridge]

Is there a solid tool for building a nation specific PVP lineup ?

[atomic abyss]

#pvp for pvp stuff
but uh, even there faction fleets are kinda meme

[soft raft]

1. (Insert obligatory "Faction fleet bad" statement here)
2. #pvp

[steady beacon]

Wdym "kinda" 👀

[worldly bridge]

Gotcha anmd sorry lol

But it's a gacha game, playing it is meme life

[inland shoal]

Do you mean offense or defense? Defense is kind of a meme altogether imo

[worldly bridge]

Even though I have since it released

[atomic abyss]

i mean, a lot of the traditional PvP teams are mostly centered around 1 faction 👀

[tired stream]

For w15 3 star lethal recommended fleet on the command (/98), is there a reason why you use independence over a different cross fleet such as yk2?

[steady beacon]

OK, I'll grant that
The very last variant of the old school IJN fleet probably was actually a full IJN fleet, now that I recall...

[sweet delta]

Yorkii cross fleet is near worthless

[inland shoal]

6% FP

[sweet delta]

Independence can give a small boost to unicorn and CV to maybe help them kill things better

[cobalt rapids]

can confirm

[steady beacon]

And even some budget ones are full American or full British...
OK, I'll rephrase...
It's a meme because in EN most full faction fleets (that are not traditional or budget) are German

[atomic abyss]

i mean, for the matter that indep can naturally desync, that helps her a lot too

[blazing shale]

Which aux items should the fleets use in 14-3 & 14-4?

[steady beacon]

Uhhhh... depends...?
I guess you do want the Hedgehog, but the rest really depends on who you're using

[blazing shale]

Wait I'll post the ships

[cobalt rapids]

a possible combination white shell, radars, steam catas, beacons, avi manju, rudders, hedge, asw plane, toolkits and other tk upgrades/sidegrades

[analog thunder]

overall review of Friedrich Carl?

[serene moth]

was hard cap cold at 500k?

[soft raft]

600k

[steady beacon]

Think it's 600k

[viscid swift]

600k

[serene moth]

oki

[soft raft]

very Gud tank
Roughly on par with the lower end of the CB scale in terms of tankiness

[analog thunder]

should i let her main tank or off tank

[steady beacon]

Main tank bc of her skill

If she is unable to survive so doing, I would probably consider other options

[blazing shale]

14-3 & -4 gear

[analog thunder]

is alvensleben in tier 0 any more

[eager mulch]

what

[soft raft]

There hasnt been much of a shift in recent times to bump Otto off of T0

[analog thunder]

otto von alven
the ironblood DD

oh i typo-ed

[eager mulch]

why are you asking here

this place has nothing to do with that shitty tier list

[soft raft]

also why did you refer to otto by the 2nd half of her name

[analog thunder]

so which tier list are we using nowaday

[viscid swift]

none

[analog thunder]

yeah next UR is French
when is it coming

[viscid swift]

probably the 23rd

[soft raft]

stream for it is this friday so highly likely the 23rd

[analog thunder]

will it be another large cruiser or another BB

[soft raft]

stay tuned until the stream

[viscid swift]

we don't know, find out this friday

[atomic abyss]

[soft raft]

we have absolutely zero clue otherwise

[atomic abyss]

If the stream hasn't happened, we won't know

[still gate]

so oil capacity is limited to 25k right? but what about gold?

[soft raft]

600k is the hard cap for coins

[still gate]

damn. thats a lot. but why do we get so little for oil? i still have 300 messages in mail full of oil

[atomic abyss]

game is indirecty telling you to play it

[viscid swift]

who said you needed to spend all of that oil right now

best to treat it as bank and save it for a rainy day

[blazing shale]

What's a good sidegrade to wyvern?

[viscid swift]

Spearfish....

[worldly pewter]

very unlikely if u follow the releases should be a sub

[blazing shale]

I mean I don't have a spearfish either

[still gate]

that buble above mail icon triggers me any time i switch to the menu. but yeah it is better to save them

[cobalt rapids]

>spearfish>skypirate( ❌ craft ) / vit 2 > barracuda

[soft raft]

dont forget about the Wyvern at home baugette

[cobalt rapids]

oh yea

[viscid swift]

I would rather start mixing in converging TBs rather than resort to Barracudas

[dawn hamlet]

Hello, what's the recommended level to start war archives stuff?

[viscid swift]

when you're in a position to start turning your attention to PR, farm Divergent Chessboard for Iron Blood ships and ignore the rest basically

they offer little in value and are mainly just collection/completion

[cobalt rapids]

PP is for when ure stuck pre oilcap and u need to grind cmder lvl, Divergent chessboard is for when ure farming KMS tech aka u start PR grinding

[still gate]

if i am not mistaken the lvl of enemy ships there is around 40 (and this is only first stages, further it becomes harder). and boss in the last stage is lvl 100

[worldly pewter]

if u mean at what progression level then if u get stuck in advancing the regular main campaign
but u need to reach the last stage in the story to unlock the oil cap

[serene moth]

UR sub

[soft raft]

but u need to reach the last stage in the story to unlock the oil cap
Wrong, you have to 100% clear a stage to unlock oil cap for it, starting from W9

Unless you meant in War Archives, in which case only the D maps have it

[worldly pewter]

lets live the dream while we can

[soft raft]

go speculate somewhere else

[viscid swift]

the copium can go to #al-general

[worldly pewter]

i meant the last stage of the war archive
i hope i wasn't wrong on that

[cobalt rapids]

depends on wa

[dawn hamlet]

Alright I'm not ready yet then x) Thanks a bunch for the answers guys

took a while but I understand a bit more now I think. I probably can't start war archives for now but I want to understand
I bought Odin from the cash shop, would farming divergent chessboard help to build Odin better or it's only to unlock other PR ship?

[viscid swift]

well you've already unlocked her so it wouldn't help you with odin

[still gate]

after one week your ships will be at least lvl 70 so you can just use bruteforce to go through first stages of wa.

[soft raft]

assuming you mean those packs that you can buy to instantly obtain a PR ship, you already got her

and you farm Divergent regardless because you'd want all of the iron blood tech you can get your hands on

[dawn hamlet]

I see, I understand now, thanks a lot for the explanations guys, that help me a lot

[viscid swift]

why though

[still gate]

wdym exactly?

[viscid swift]

why do the WAs at such an early stage, especially seeing as with just level 70 ships they won't even be close to clearing to stages with oil caps

setting aside even the ability to meet the hard node stat requirements in the first place

[still gate]

i used to do them to get ships to finally start building pr ships. in the beginning it is hard to get german ships and there is wa where you can get some of them

[viscid swift]

yeah, but they're not at a stage where PR should be a priority at all

[soft raft]

We're not saying that you shouldnt do it in general, we're just saying not to do it that soon when pushing campaign to W9 should be their top priority

[quiet pawn]

Why is 12-4 so good for grinding?

[soft raft]

Good balance of XP and gold
Perfect for grinding out ship XP without worrying that they're gonna randomly get melted

[haughty dust]

Should I keep saving these or use them to get FDG to development level 30?

She is currently at development level 28

[gilded shale]

I have like 100k coins now. What should I do to not waste the daily rewards?

[soft raft]

sure if you want if that's Pr2 blanks

[soft raft]

nothing in particular because your actual coin cap is 600k

[viscid swift]

do not use DR4+ prints on FDG

[gilded shale]

So what about the daily coins?

[haughty dust]

because then I still have to work on getting Agir, and Hakuryuu to 30. AVP is at development level 26 I believe.

[haughty dust]

Which ones are those?

[soft raft]

the only thing your non-600k cap affects is if you can claim resources from your HQ buildings or not

[viscid swift]

the ones where you can select DR4 prints from them

it would be an absolute waste to use them on a ship that's coinable vs on a ship that's not

[haughty dust]

I’ll have to let it scroll through the next time I’m in game because I’m not sure which one those were.

[haughty dust]

well, then, what about using them to bump up one of my ships that requires blueprints to get their development level up?

[gilded shale]

So I could just not claim them? Wouldn't that be a waste?

[viscid swift]

just save your DR4+ prints for now, use them to finish up a ship when you're close to maxing them

also rule of thumb, use prints for the highest season they can go up to

[soft raft]

You cant claim them if you're over your soft cap
Not like it really matters when ideally you should be way over that 99% of the time once you can sustainably farm

[haughty dust]

well, can I use any of those to bump up any ships? I still would like to get either Agir, Hakuryuu or someone closer to 30. I’m not currently doing the character research projects because of how much credits it cost me. I’m trying to save my credits up as much as possible right now. I only do about eight extra after the two free dailies for coinable characters.

[viscid swift]

Staying above the soft cap is not difficult these days and frankly I would not spend coins just for the sake of staying below that cap

[eager mulch]

1k oil

[viscid swift]

you can, like I said though I would just save them for no seeing as you're not quite close to maxing out any of them yet

and research rng can quickly things by the time you do

[haughty dust]

That’s why I only do that eight pulls or whatever it’s called after I do the two free ones for coinable characters. That way I don’t waste money on characters right now.

[eager mulch]

JP/CN announce the Cta ships yet

[soft raft]

yup
(iirc Hatakaze here being her META version)

[tame jungle]

What did those missions get you again

[eager mulch]

points for the chat frame

[tame jungle]

Right lol

[eternal moth]

Are you sure any of those are META versions? My translation didn't mention meta either

[forest palm]

jobbed by a gold

[keen sable]

Fc so pathetic. Not even better than uss prinz eugen who survived a nuke

[wet prairie]

ouch

[eager mulch]

[hushed cliff]

Is UvH generally better off flag? Ever since I started running her with Marco as flag UvH will drop 90k+ damage every boss fight Marco can’t even hope to keep up

she’s just a machine gun now with that volley spam

[viscid swift]

Yes

Flag UvH is just a worse FDG

[cobalt rapids]

did u just copy paste my snip

[inland shoal]

Fdc...Friedrich der Carl?

[gloomy mesa]

Is there some kind of guide for this?

Also she any good?

[cobalt rapids]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1204845559790440488 theres some guides in pins

[inland shoal]

Check out the TB thread in this channel

And no she isn't except for tech

[cobalt rapids]

shes rld tech

[eager mulch]

0.04s shaved off my shinano reload

[worldly pewter]

viable exp buffer too right ?

i m using her and TBH i m not feeling much difference in exp since i want to speedrun ark and avp levels

[inland shoal]

Yesn't, it's more of an added benefit while you raise her for rld tech

[eager mulch]

xp bonus nice but the loss of not being able to level a third ship hurts

[worldly pewter]

i m leveling 6 ships

[molten plover]

Is it possible to obtain Iris Libre and Sardegnia ships in the story mode? I need them to unlock certain pr ships

[viscid swift]

the main campaign no, from other permanent sources yes

[molten plover]

Permanent sources?

[viscid swift]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology

[molten plover]

Thank you!

Are there any pr ships I should be especially trying to obtain? I already have Fredrich and Roon

[viscid swift]

Anchorage, Agir, AvP, Haku, and then a majority of the PR5 and 6 ships plus some of the older PRs for Protocre farming and tech

[molten plover]

I have Agir as well

[forest palm]

Plymouth is a good must have

[molten plover]

I can start Anchorage in a couple hours, currently on cooldown as I just finished St Louis

[molten plover]

Would Plymouth be a better pick than Anchorage? I could do that instead

[viscid swift]

do Anchorage first

[molten plover]

OK can do

Thank you 😌

[viscid swift]

give that a read hile you're at it
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[keen sable]

what is your research focus?

[molten plover]

It was set to 4, but the guide also said 4 is fine so I left it alone

[midnight bluff]

Where does the UR design plans drop in OpSi?

[keen sable]

port shop, narbiter, cats, mission loggers, abyssals

[undone plover]

how do you guys raise affinity to 200 on maxed ships? just run in mob and forego the xp? keep in boss and let it slowly go up?

[eager mulch]

either one depending on how badly I want 200 aff

[sweet delta]

~~I don't make such rookie mistakes ~~
Raids or event maps with low oil cap are the cheapest ways to fix the mistake

[undone plover]

I am noob .
but actually a good idea. I can use them to farm the new event. no more low oil fleet

[forest palm]

at some point you stop worrying, and become numb to it all

[undone plover]

i stopped caring about xp a while back tbh. gold and chips is where it is at

[forest palm]

wouldn't know that feeling

[final flint]

How does speed reduction work on enemies? Is it additive or multiplicative?

Ok thanks

[misty tree]

World 14 Fleet Building

[heavy aspen]

Quick question: Can you select elite ships in the wishing well event if we get it? I've pulled daily on the light pool for 1,5 years + events but still haven't gotten Aurora 🤣 I think I got every single permapool ship other than her...

Thanks! 👍

[elfin hollow]

I already have a max limit break. I just did this for the build one ship mission. There was a 10 build I got three of her in one 10 build.

[mint flint]

is this a #gameplay-help question though

[mint flint]

is this a #gameplay-help question though

[eager mulch]

since when did gph turn into trophy room

[elfin hollow]

I AM SO SORRY

[ruby skiff]

Whats the best way to get UR Gear?

[verbal thistle]

Is there a way to get the Triple 406mm MK7?

[eager mulch]

Research and gear lab

[sinful elk]

Does this gun work well on Portland?

[eager mulch]

sure but waste of mats imo

[sinful elk]

Hmm it improve slightly or more?

[viscid swift]

ok.., blogging goes to #al-general

[eager mulch]

not big enough of an improvement over twin 203 skc to justify making it

also Portland’s damage isn’t anything crazy so it doesn’t matter too much

if you really want to make a CA gun for some reason then I’d make the royal navy twin 234

[sinful elk]

Hmm then between sky pirate and experimental xsb which one is more worth getting

[eager mulch]

both are extremely low priority

if you can consider them a priority in the first place

[sinful elk]

I would love to improve my cvs tho

[eager mulch]

then get wyverns and tenrai

[sinful elk]

Well i dont have enough mats for those so i am getting the cheapers

[eager mulch]

better reason to save your mats

Sky pirate is extremely expensive for the tiny upgrade it provides and uses the same materials as wyverns, xsb is in the same boat except the upgrade is even more tiny

[sinful elk]

Hmm i havent got fire cest though..

[south sequoia]

Either farm for it or get it from core shop, only get it from core shop IF you have all the other important gear and indep

[viscid swift]

the Goldiver is literally just a purple hell diver with 20 more AVI stat

[eager mulch]

it’s not like either one is going to significantly change things for you

[viscid swift]

and the Skypirate is an intermediate TB that will ultimately just get replaced anyway and will pretty much exclusively be used for mobbing and campaign anyway

[sinful elk]

[sweet delta]

is the next UR confirmed to be French or are you speculating

[viscid swift]

well we know the upcoming event is French, it's the CN Anni, non mono faction events are practically non existent so...

[eager mulch]

Cleo, kill this guy for speculation

[viscid swift]

I mean if I'm wrong I will retire all my 125s

[plain saffron]

Thanks

[slow fox]

ye

[grand solar]

Soo apparently if you buy an expansion slot for you depot, it does not include expansion for augments. And you also can't get rid of in any way shape or form.

[eager mulch]

you can feed them to other augments

[atomic abyss]

Which is what you're meant to do with them to begin with

[eager mulch]

I wouldn’t say that exactly

[grand solar]

Okay....how do I do that as I just ended up throwing them on all my purple bulins.

[viscid swift]

tap on them the next time you're enhancing an augment

[grand solar]

Can I still use them even if I am making a new one?

[rain vine]

yes

[plain saffron]

Upgrade good one to purple, feed bad one as exp

[half plover]

are there some good rare, sr vanguard ships that are worth using and leveling to lvl 120

or do you guys prefer any faction for vanguards

[atomic abyss]

We wouldn't really advise picking a ship based on factions

[half plover]

I need to start leveling ships that are not laffey, z23, nubian, helena, port, carl 😭

[atomic abyss]

Good ships are more important

[half plover]

I need some subs that I can run once my main ships reach lvl 120

I dont have chips to advance them to max lvl 125 rn

[eager mulch]

depends on your dock

I could say “level every rainbow” but you might not have every rainbow

[half plover]

I feel like these might be my only choices next to regular rare or common ships

[atomic abyss]

Yeah umm
I'd just focus on the original 6 if I were you

[half plover]

but they wont get any exp

[atomic abyss]

Are they at 125?

[atomic abyss]

They'll still get exp tho
Up to 3 million can be stored

Then you can break then past 120 to 125 eventually