gameplay-help

[whole crypt]

muse skill is technically worse than OG skill

[steady beacon]

Actually, wait a sec... they got back in... three hours ago...?
That feels surprisingly short, but Idek how CN's maint times work tbf

[shadow yarrow]

from the reddit lol:

Formi Muse might have beaten Victorious for the title of worst gold CV in the game. That is a genuinely terrible skill set. She’s locked to running in a muse fleet, can’t use her time stop outside of mobbing, and has a debuff that only affects enemies that are already about to die.

[crimson glacier]

like someone had a bet in the dev team with someone if he could make a ship with stop and preload shit

and gz he succeeded

[whole crypt]

yep

I'm struggling to decide whether Eugem is actually better than Eugen

[shadow yarrow]

having an actual offense instantly makes her better

[whole crypt]

the offense still looks quite meh and she bleeds for it

[shadow yarrow]

hey it was a low bar

[whole crypt]

which kind of defeats the purpose for tanking

[frank pulsar]

eugen is very bulky though even if she does nothing

[whole crypt]

like the one time you count on eugen is when you're coping for defense against high vanguard pressure without CBs

[mellow cape]

Any new gear?

[warm flax]

lil shinano > langley?

[shadow yarrow]

obvs

[whole crypt]

for?

[warm flax]

for support fleet specifically

[frank pulsar]

in what? in damage probably
in support fleet langley still better

[shadow yarrow]

even being a double-downrare isn't enough to make her that much worse

[warm flax]

alright

[mellow cape]

What is allazarin

[frank pulsar]

theres an equip tab, read that

[whole crypt]

one of the two "idol" groups this time

[mellow cape]

Mm a little confused by the eq ngl

[whole crypt]

Shinano-chan is as a matter of fact the most broken purple CV to date because 9 planes, but not sure how her barrage plays out

[mellow cape]

Phew

[crimson glacier]

uni is better than her

[whole crypt]

Uni isn't purple after retrofit

[crimson glacier]

she is better pre retrofit

[whole crypt]

if you want a healer I guess

but yeh... if you're looking or a damage carrier I doubt you'd go down to Shinano-chan over all the other rainbows anyway

[crimson glacier]

id imagine ark would also be better than her but idk

[frank pulsar]

we'll see in a few weeks when ppl can test

[whole crypt]

double shinano + hakuryuu comp

[crimson glacier]

id rather keep my imp 🙂

[whole crypt]

I'm thinking she might be good to throw at guild op boss because you'll never need to regear her for anything else

[crimson glacier]

you dont need to re gear for guild boss either so

it really doesnt matter what gear you use when using the top ships on guild boss

[eternal basalt]

It's the song that pkays when using it

[steady beacon]

More specifically, it's the name of the idol group consisting of Formi/Noshi/Eugen
While Cyanidine, the other one consists of the three purples

[gusty olive]

insert why it's always HMS who gets the short end of the stick statement here

[eternal basalt]

Cause players cough Anson

[normal crane]

Is it common to get 8 hours maintenance in this game?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[inland shoal]

Hey at least you don't need to level her s2 cuz that doesn't do anything anyway
Haven't checked out any hotfixes tho

[inland shoal]

8h is the standard for new events

[gusty olive]

Any comment about Noshiro muse?

[viscid swift]

Looks mid

[jaunty vault]

noshiro but with a different outfit

[forest palm]

same same, but different

[gusty olive]

Guess it's just Formi that's botched

[eager mulch]

they were all botched the moment they were released as not rainbows

[crisp estuary]

The one Yamato class they made that is somewhat tolerable and its elite

[inland shoal]

So what will we get first? UR META, Muse or Child?

[whole crypt]

JP is up

[inland shoal]

Hmm there's no way for you to read Eugen's skill right away is there

[whole crypt]

is she in pool?

[crimson glacier]

Why do you need it read

[whole crypt]

pool is special based, unsurprisingly

[eternal basalt]

UR META; CODE G

[eternal basalt]

Datamine

[inland shoal]

Cuz the cn tl in datamine is different from how I understand the code

[inland shoal]

She is but not rate up afaik

[viscid swift]

She's the shop ship

[worldly pewter]

we can accelerate skill learning ?

[eternal basalt]

Also in pool, 0.5%, and SP5 / SP drop

[worldly pewter]

can i see how much time are left ?

[eternal basalt]

As long as event IIRC edit: wrong

[worldly pewter]

nani

i can deplete all the books i have ?

[eternal basalt]

Wrong, till the 15th. 10 a day

[worldly pewter]

so 210 approx

[whole crypt]

oh right time to burn rainbow books

[eternal basalt]

Stops just in time for the UR

[worldly pewter]

i didn't know that we had to save the rainbow books for such a event

[whole crypt]

well you don't have to

it's just if you do it's the fastest way to boost skills with the 10 counts each day

[inland shoal]

Saving rainbows for this is the most efficient way to lvl skills
But that's not necessarily what you care about

[crimson glacier]

it would be the most inefficient for some

[undone plover]

Can you even get enough rainbows between skill events?

[inland shoal]

Last time I didn't run out

[whole crypt]

same

current stock

[crimson glacier]

very pog but who asked

[inland shoal]

Hmm that's actually cutting it real close

[jaunty vault]

smh flexing in my gph

[echo axle]

Flexing, mods, get him

[whole crypt]

need 220 but there's daily raids in between

[plain saffron]

is it 6 or 8 this time? thanks

[south sequoia]

8

[plain saffron]

thanls

[worldly pewter]

i want to confirm this since skill issues
when i wanted to put enhance fodders into shinano they told me that they don't refund anything used on her
does this mean only if u fail to meet the requirement to be a permanent character in the dock ?

[vale pendant]

So i wanted to ask but I’m 99% sure of the answer:
Is the new Akagi Specific gear worth using?

Also does it work on Akagi Muse as well or only original Akagi?

[jaunty vault]

yes you lose all investment if you fail to convince her to stay with you

[jaunty vault]

only on akagi
its worth using on akagi but akagi is not worth using

[vale pendant]

Huh that’s not what I expected.
I thought it wasn’t worth it.

[plain saffron]

12% dmg boost better than AVI from catapult

[jaunty vault]

its better tham steam catapult on akagi only, yes

[vale pendant]

Huh.
How much damaged does wax each point of AVI add then? Is it even quantifiable?

[inland shoal]

Wax?

[uneven cave]

[vale pendant]

Each

Autocorrect being funky

My autocorrect sometimes corrects “Because” to bevahze because of how much I mistype so

[crimson glacier]

have you considered removing the fucked up things from the suggestions

[uneven cave]

Just turn off autocorrect ez

[vale pendant]

Yeah I’m trying to do that now but I can’t never find it.
Anyways, back on topic

[cobalt rapids]

its around 8% more dmg compared to a steamcatapult after taking the avi in consideration

[worldly pewter]

this event doesn't have hard stages so just 3★ everything right ?

[plain saffron]

yeah

it have the mini EX stage so do that also

[jaunty vault]

can skip 3 starring a stage if you feel the rewards arent worth the trouble

[plain saffron]

3 star is not even that hard, and doable in same no of run to 100%

[jaunty vault]

extra retrofit BP aint worth the effort invested when youve got 100s sitting in depot

[plain saffron]

that's what people said until they need the 200 coins to pull more

are 3 star locked behind prev stage?

[jaunty vault]

nope

[inland shoal]

To answer your original question: Each point of Avi is 1% increase of base dmg
(So X Avi is X% more dmg than 0 Avi, ie 500 Avi is 20% more dmg than 400 Avi)

[rapid grail]

maint is in 1h 30 left right
unless there's some sort of extension

[jaunty vault]

https://discord.com/events/456397991847395339/1232925908760002592

[wispy cosmos]

yes, either check the discord event or ectl for timers

[jaunty vault]

yes

[rapid grail]

thanks

[icy mountain]

i meant like if you collect points u get like free cubes

[eager mulch]

so no new tech?

[jaunty vault]

nop

[undone plover]

most major events give 10 cubes with missions and clearing stages. not part of any milestone/shop
SP events iirc give less around 6 cubes total

[forest palm]

would be funny if they just gave Muse Ships tech

[steady beacon]

Ngl I can't remember exactly how many SPs get but uh...
It's probably not beyond the pale to assume 1 per stage (maybe 2 for SP5) then 2 for the mu SP stage
So, in this case, 7-8
The ISP stages also, assuming they are similar to the corresponding stages from the Arclight rerun and Senran Kagura (which CN and JP patch notes suggest they probably are) each gift iirc 1 cube per, so that's 6 more

[forest palm]

got like a little over an hr left of expected maint, right?

[eager mulch]

haku can have 5 TBs max right?

[silver lintel]

Yes

[eager mulch]

time to replace haku with shinano chan for more ryuusei

[worldly pewter]

i don't know why but shinano looks bigger than soyuz

do i have messed up settings or smth

[jaunty vault]

im biggest

[blissful hamlet]

big head

[worldly pewter]

as long as the game is working as intended

the stages will have bonus event currency once a day

[blazing shale]

Do we know the next URs ship class?

[cobalt rapids]

is sololive that famous vtuber shipdol company

[steady beacon]

The relative sizes have been known to be bizarre tbf
When she was first released, I remember Attilio positively dwarfing Pompeo in the fleet tech list

[plain saffron]

yes

[steady beacon]

Does that list tell how many cubes one gets for each of those stages cleared

[plain saffron]

uhh nope

i have use the other script i have though

[wispy pendant]

Do we think Formi u is pvp?

[plain saffron]

ISP is each ['Wisdom Cube x 1', 'Coins x 600']

[south sequoia]

#pvp Anyways, shes shit

If even aquila isn't thriving anymore I doubt a worser ship like formu will survive
CVs are also dunked on in pvp due to a lot of ships and shifts in the meta

[vale pendant]

Actually I’ve been wondering, what’s Formi U looking like compared to regular Formidable?

Better? Worse? Sidegrade?

[south sequoia]

worse

[steady beacon]

[eager mulch]

formi muse is very competitive for worst gold carrier

[elfin hollow]

has maint been extended?

[plain saffron]

no

[elfin hollow]

huh, okay, thank you

[eager mulch]

standard 8 hour maint

[elfin hollow]

maybe it’s just the timezones messing with me, prolly that

[astral matrix]

Damn worst gold carrier

[forest palm]

kind of hard to be Vicky let's be honest

[eager mulch]

at least shinano chan good

she deserves it, very cute

[hollow gust]

[worldly pewter]

shinano worth raising ?

[jaunty vault]

not the lil one

[astral turret]

You Monster

[round hare]

This muse worth pulling? Since no tech point

[eager mulch]

worth is relative

[round hare]

Fair enough, when u gonna make opsi guide

[inland shoal]

Raising child ships into grown up version when

[eager mulch]

after finals

[winter condor]

there are consequences for our acts and lil shinano is one of them so we are responsible to raise her

[cobalt rapids]

they might get tech later like meta but if its 1:1 to their og like meta then boise best ship

[round hare]

ちょっと待って

[round hare]

[winter condor]

あなたは真実を知っています

[round hare]

いいえええええええ

[inner delta]

#international-port

[rain mesa]

open the gates

[half plover]

when is the maintenance overr

[round hare]

I assume its rn

[eager mulch]

should be done by now

[half plover]

servers still down

[round hare]

Hold ur horses man its 2 minutes

[alpine crest]

It's been 2 minutes, calm down

[round hare]

Server takes time to boot

[half plover]

nooo 2min

I cant waitttt lmao

[novel condor]

just wait, servers still take some time to get full up

[ivory linden]

2 mins already its joever

[forest palm]

[blissful hamlet]

[round hare]

Apologem for 5 minutes 32seconds and 366 late!!!?!??!!

[silk sphinx]

#al-general exists people

[inner delta]

if people keep sending that shit, ill extend your maint by 1 hour

so no discord chat

[silk sphinx]

You have that power?

[inner delta]

sure why not

[rain mesa]

dn

[plain saffron]

nice out of date right after login

[blissful hamlet]

Can you extend it by 8 hours so that it's up when after I sleep and I won't miss anything

[eager mulch]

servers up

[silk sphinx]

Thanks

[blissful hamlet]

[round hare]

💀 you monster

[worldly pewter]

i don't see 🇯🇵

[wind hazel]

is anyone else having slow download for the 53mb patch too?

[mellow cape]

Nopee

[forest palm]

Eugen is free right?

[eager mulch]

shop ship yes

[frank pulsar]

shop ship

[mellow cape]

Mm

[inland shoal]

So yeah Eugen skill actually different from datamine as I said

[eager mulch]

whats the difference

[plain saffron]

how tf did you test in few mins

[inland shoal]

I just pulled EN data and read EN desc

And it aligns exactly with my analysis so I trust it for once

[plain saffron]

wtf EN right CN wrong

[novel condor]

[south sequoia]

What was your analysis again

And which skill are u talking abt

[fickle garnet]

whats boise muse construction timer?

[inland shoal]

Just check the wiki page, skill 1

[south sequoia]

Oh wtf its already up

[inland shoal]

Man annoying slot upgrades

[novel condor]

wait what slot upgrades

did they revamp something?

[inland shoal]

I should better say flex slots that unlock

[warm flax]

Bait banner?

[south sequoia]

@inland shoal Mind linking? Nothing pops up yet

[inland shoal]

Cuz I have to do them manually

[south sequoia]

Sort of

[inland shoal]

Shit, I created them under wrong name, did they change the µ? I'm sure I had a replacement for that

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Prinz_Eugen_μ

[forest palm]

is there any ship worth a damn this event?

[eager mulch]

shinano chan because shes cute

[forest palm]

that's what I thought

[inland shoal]

Man you mean UR when you say worth a damn

[winter condor]

prince seems good but nothing new

and requires another μ ship for the improved gun shiet

[warm flax]

Back to back SRs

[south sequoia]

Oh thats really lame, she only heals herself

[south sequoia]

Just use kicks and dress

[winter condor]

welp i save cubes for the next UR then

[inland shoal]

I mean tbh that's probably better cuz otherwise you had a selfmurdering tank

The crit rate only being herself is a bit of a pity tho

[wispy pendant]

what's the farming stage, sp5 or usp?

[jade ibex]

do muse ships give fleet tech or completion%?

[eager mulch]

collection %, no tech

[south sequoia]

A self murdering tank that heals your whole vanguard

[inland shoal]

They are collection%

[south sequoia]

But realistically eugen wouldnt be catching as much picks on her own so probably a good thing

[wispy pendant]

is the event aux good?

[eager mulch]

more HP auxes

[hollow frost]

Well, that's a relief, I spent a lot of cubes for Krohn

[inland shoal]

Better than 2nd toolbox

[south sequoia]

I wonder how eugens ehp would look considering she could heal as much as she want if your whole vanguard just kills for her

[inland shoal]

@slow fox

I think we don't have a good estimate for the kills which makes it quite hard

[ionic edge]

pull on event banner yay or nay

[eager mulch]

depends

[soft raft]

heavily leaning towards a nay imo

[eager mulch]

ships arent anything crazy but they are collection%

[sweet delta]

It's more likely that your data mine translator is wrong than cn description is wrong for eugen

[empty knot]

Prinz IS good for Iron blood vanguard ?

[ionic edge]

so don't pull if i don't really want collection?

[eager mulch]

no

[empty knot]

we know what IS the next Ur évent so ?

[eager mulch]

no

[atomic abyss]

we never know what it is unless it's been announced

[eager mulch]

and it hasnt been announced

[empty knot]

Don't know if i pull on the banner so ...

[atomic abyss]

dont then

[wispy pendant]

if you don't have a pleathora of cubes and need UR reruns still, this is a pretty skippable build pool

[empty knot]

Yeah i keep for IB Ur and ijn so ...

I think i will pass this banner

[wispy pendant]

you could still do 1-3 builds a day, just don't go hard if you want to save for other things

[empty knot]

Yeah that's a solution

[forest palm]

just tuck these Muse ships away for any future relevant PR ships that needs a body for CDC grind

[eager mulch]

or until they get tech

[empty knot]

Like méta ships ? ^^

[elfin nimbus]

voiceline

[loud scarab]

i think i give up trying to get Kongou µ. how long will it takes for these ships to get back?

[atomic abyss]

none of the muse events reran iirc

straight to archive

[empty knot]

Maybe like roon ?

[stark quiver]

Are the badges for me to get the commemorative item

[empty knot]

On the shop ?

[inland shoal]

I mean the 2nd muse event sort of reran the first one at the same time...

[forest palm]

double DDG, or DDG + Unicorn for initial clears

[eager mulch]

level 70 0lb cassin/downes + ranger

[atomic abyss]

I did actually do that for SP1 and SP2
...tho with 0lb abercrombie instead

[copper chasm]

Do the new ship girls count towards collection?

[plain saffron]

yes

[elfin nimbus]

but not TP

[eternal basalt]

I'm just saying... the ID following the current event has Carl

[real shuttle]

time for noshiro muse?

[mild sail]

What should I do with the second copy of Guam, Kronshtadt and New Jersey

[wind hazel]

are they at limit break?
yes>limit break further
no>retire

wait the other way around

[whole crypt]

dupes only for LB or memes, no use

[mild sail]

Have 2 NJ barrage in Opsiren is funny tho

[whole crypt]

OS does not allow dupes

[mild sail]

In different fleet?

[solid harness]

Which ship should I pick

[whole crypt]

not even across different fleets

[mild sail]

You lack carrier or good battleship?

[loud scarab]

dupes for different skins

[whole crypt]

i.e. memes

[solid harness]

I’d say I lack a carrier more than BBs rn

[mild sail]

Which level you are at now

[whole crypt]

doesn't really matter if you can't straight out MLB and new UR coming in a month

[half plover]

20 pulls and only peter strasser sr, rip

[solid harness]

Yeah I’m not trying to max either any time soon anyways

[mild sail]

Well, just 3 dock slot, I can handle

[whole crypt]

so doesn't really matter which you pick then

[drifting comet]

does NPC shinano-chans level stay after u official obtain her

[mild sail]

Yes

[whole crypt]

the NPC tag is removed when you finish tasks to obtain her

[stark quiver]

Is sp5 the highest stage I can auto for, and the ISP stages are just one time

[whole crypt]

looks like it

[mild sail]

It always like this

[mild sail]

Sp stage always 1 time a day every event

[whole crypt]

have you even seen the stage format for this event

[mild sail]

I don't even login yet

[atomic abyss]

then dont misinform

[whole crypt]

SP1-5 normal stages
ISP1-6 looks like the one-time things they did a while ago
daily SP is muSP

[wispy pendant]

[stark quiver]

And this is a 2 week event yes?

[empty knot]

@eternal basaltalready have Carl xD

[haughty dust]

am I correct that it’s probably better to save up the cubes for this event and wait for the next ones since it doesn’t appear to me at least that any other characters are worth pulling for. Would I be correct?

[wispy pendant]

They aren't meta defining, they don't give fleet tech, they are collection.

[eager mulch]

depending on your definition of worth, probably save

[south sequoia]

Pretty much, the best ship to grab from this event is the one in event shop

[eager mulch]

shinano chan though

[eternal basalt]

And she's from the next event. Hear what I'm saying?

[soft raft]

Next?

Oh right the ID shenanagins

[atomic abyss]

it's easy to forget that carl wasn't supposed to be for nubian event...

...actually not really that hard considering she's the odd one out

[wispy pendant]

#al-general

[eternal basalt]

And still mute

[inland shoal]

I think Noshiro is also interesting for torp fleets
Though her ijn requirement idk, don't think preloaded torps hit that late

[eager mulch]

manual

[wispy pendant]

does an IJN gun fufill her req?

[atomic abyss]

isn't she like discount tani kai

[wispy pendant]

yeah, it's any ijn equipment, not just torps

easy to just use those gear lab ijn gun

[inland shoal]

? I wasn't doubting whether it was easy to fulfill, just whether that 5s trigger actually does anything

[wispy pendant]

ah, why not do it either way

[inland shoal]

Not rly, the effect is the same, but Tani is timed with her own torps and has a chance not to trigger

[atomic abyss]

It'd be good if this was like, 2019 or sth

[loud scarab]

you can have a µ ship and her normal version in the same fleet right

[eager mulch]

yes

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[inland shoal]

Right cuz there's a plethora of ships now that increase enemy torp dmg taken by 40%

[atomic abyss]

It's not that

It's moreso, who do you replace

[inland shoal]

Avrora

[eager mulch]

what even is torp meme comp these days

[atomic abyss]

The reason why tani kai was used in the first place was cos Jintsuu kai didn't buff Ibuki
So you'd go Avrora Tani Kai Ibuki

[inland shoal]

Something like Jim, Unzen, Avrora

I think anyway, not an expert on torp memes

[wind hazel]

what lv is SP4 map? the mob average lv

[atomic abyss]

I haven't actually looked at JiM's kit
So I'm assuming she buffs CAs like Unzen unlike her og counterpart

Then shd be JiM Unzen Avrora ye

At least for more reliability

[wispy pendant]

that feeling shima doesn't even make it into the torp comp

[inland shoal]

Avrora is 35% and shit dmg, so I think Nosh would be better

[atomic abyss]

Shima is just a worse Unzen for most intents and purposes

[inland shoal]

If the timing suits your needs

[atomic abyss]

... although, maybe there is an argument for JiM Unzen and Shima

[inland shoal]

(Though yes, Avrora also buffs main guns)

[atomic abyss]

I mean, Ayanami Kai vs Ibuki was an argument back in the day

[wispy pendant]

RIP shima

[atomic abyss]

Do you take Jintsuu kai's massive torp buff or do you go for Ibuki's double preloads

Now it's a non issue
Not only does Unzen have better guns
Both have the double preloads

[sullen creek]

Shima can fit in any torp comp if you want her to fit

[inland shoal]

No clue, but I'll try to look it up

[atomic abyss]

Shima's off-torp damage is her barrage and not her guns after all

[atomic abyss]

I mean I'm using Shima for RodM cos I had her MLB and not Unzen so

People will find use for her if they need to

[loud scarab]

sp4 is low 60s

[atomic abyss]

Moreover, with the very notable exception of Laffey 2, she and poi kai shd be the best DDs for pushing late game content

Laffey 2 is just an entirely different class...
Literally

[inland shoal]

61-63

Boss is 64

[wind hazel]

thanks

[tall quarry]

Hello, does this work on Akagi Idol as well?

[atomic abyss]

No

[wispy pendant]

rusuRe?

[eternal basalt]

Nor chan

[inland shoal]

Only base Akagi sadly
(Devs thought that mentioning base name in skills meant it applied to all versions was getting too consistent so they added this)

[atomic abyss]

akashi alr has one exclusive gear

[worldly pewter]

boys the SP5 stage isn't worth farming if someone is pinched for coins ?

[atomic abyss]

she doesn't need another

[eternal basalt]

And that one works forr all

[inland shoal]

I have no idea why you are talking about Akashi

[atomic abyss]

GEE i wonder why

[steady beacon]

Thorin was always talking about Akashi
Just like Oceania was always at war with Eurasia

[copper chasm]

I hit the UR exchange points cap. Can I just save it for whoever gets added next? I already have max lb shinano and NJ.

[eager mulch]

sure

[atomic abyss]

you could... but then you stop building more pity

[eager mulch]

but what is the purpose of building pity if he doesnt need the pity

[eternal basalt]

30 medals

[steady beacon]

For the day we all become fleet power slaves

Oh, that works as an explanation, too

[viscid swift]

Nah, being a fleet tech slave is far more productive......

[elfin hollow]

What is construction time for Formidable u?

[steady beacon]

4:30

[viscid swift]

Same as regular formidable

[elfin hollow]

Already lost over 100k coins. Even Eugen come before her

[eager mulch]

thats life

anyways whats up with the stickers and badges

[atomic abyss]

btw, i saw the hype about mugen earlier
and also saw there was some misTL
so what's the prelim verdict lol

[steady beacon]

Collect all to get the event medal

[atomic abyss]

yes i shortened eugen muse to mugen
sue me

[eager mulch]

my prelim is that she is a gold CA in a UR CB world

[atomic abyss]

the better question is
is she worth using to grind hinden with

[eager mulch]

seems more damage oriented than eugen but im not sure about how tanky, youre gonna need to take up with mebot

no tech means no

[loud scarab]

150k coins no kongou muse

[opal stream]

only 1 mgm = dead

[soft raft]

No tech so
Unless you got all the IB vanguard tech done

[atomic abyss]

i forgot
was carl 1 mgm too?

[sullen creek]

Yes

[steady beacon]

Ye she was

[atomic abyss]

or did she have a barrage or sth going for her too

[eager mulch]

barrage

[steady beacon]

Her punching barrage or w/e on every main gun fire
And she can get her offtank in on the action too

[atomic abyss]

...yeah i think i'll stick to using agir when the time comes

tho i guess i could use both

[eager mulch]

no tech though

[opal stream]

this entire event is easy skip if you are low on cubes
bait before CN anniv

[eager mulch]

tech is life

[atomic abyss]

both agir and mugen i mean

[eager mulch]

also kms event soon ig

[atomic abyss]

i think im only missing formudable and le temudable?

[steady beacon]

Ngl, in light of who Formi is a reference to, Formudable makes me smile...

[atomic abyss]

no wait im missing kongou

[opal stream]

its 2024 already

[tropic tusk]

all 3 are gears right?

[steady beacon]

Auxes yes

[eager mulch]

yes

[tropic tusk]

ok thx

i swear the cn ppl updates so much more then then en website

[eager mulch]

how much shinano chan trust for clearing W15 stages

[inland shoal]

He said after the gears are already on the en wiki

[opal stream]

i mean why would you need to know when you are going to overcap even before the 7th day anyway

[tropic tusk]

but thats the cn wiki

[eager mulch]

also are the three new secrets limited or perma

[unkempt mortar]

anyone knows how to trigger this scene

[steady beacon]

Ngl, I wish they let you put the little ship in dorm bc I am OCD about morale dropping below 120
So I refuse to use little ships until the 7th day

[tropic tusk]

like en one no update yet

[opal stream]

limited

[eager mulch]

oh well, helena secret is all i need

[inland shoal]

Yes? Your point is? The gears are up on en wiki since like almost 2 hours

[tropic tusk]

then rename to basement

[inland shoal]

Oh patch notes aren't in news yet sure

[tropic tusk]

oh they are?

[undone plover]

any skills worth raising for ships i am not using? what do u guys level after the "meta" ships

[unkempt mortar]

anyone?

[inland shoal]

This is up to date earlier than News on main page almost always https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Recent_News

[opal stream]

randoms

[stark quiver]

just level whatever after that, books are only gonna collect dust if u diont

[steady beacon]

Generally just any random ship
Usually using blue skill books bc you always have an excess of those...

[tropic tusk]

how did u find that its not showing up for me lol

[opal stream]

preferly blue skills
cuz for godsake those are rares

[undone plover]

[wispy pendant]

anyone have some tips on how to automate manual searching?

[eager mulch]

automate and manual contradict each other

[whole crypt]

looks redlink to me

[steady beacon]

Probably because Thorin is one of the writers of the wiki
Incidentally @inland shoal , how do you guys get the ship lines

[soft raft]

What

[wispy pendant]

i hate manual searching 😭

[tropic tusk]

its a must for first time

[inland shoal]

Wait what you can't see that page??

[eager mulch]

the only thing you can do is deal with it

[worldly pewter]

boys this shinano is at 40 moral
is there anything i can do to let it regen fast ?

[eager mulch]

[stark quiver]

dorm

[wispy pendant]

no

[opal stream]

put in dorm and touch grass

[tropic tusk]

i can click on it but its not showing me on the wiki itself , like normally it will be on outside also

[eager mulch]

cant dorm shinano chan

[wispy pendant]

can't dorm npc

[worldly pewter]

yeah i couldn't dorm her

[undone plover]

do we need to use nano-chan to gain her trust or farming enough?

[stark quiver]

well to the great outdoors you go my friend

[wispy pendant]

also, the fact we can play with a npc is a contradiction

[whole crypt]

nothing that points to the auxes

[inland shoal]

Okay so it does open, don't scare me like that

[tropic tusk]

oh ok now i see it cause normally its on the outside

[worldly pewter]

no

[opal stream]

no
it faster but you overcap regardless

[inland shoal]

That's true yeah, though it does point to one of them

[soft raft]

Same kind of deal as Cheshire chan

[worldly pewter]

i m using nano for many reasons u know

[undone plover]

yeah i wasnt sure if rerun/original run was different

[eager mulch]

chesh had different missions, this one is just from sorties

[inland shoal]

And I mean the event page isn't up yet either

[opal stream]

you can already see the aux pages
no images tho

[tropic tusk]

yea while cn event page already up

[whole crypt]

to be fair datamine has aux info

[tropic tusk]

cn wiki has so much more then en

[atomic abyss]

and CN ends their maint much earlier than EN

[whole crypt]

CN also finish maintenance hours before EN so

[stark quiver]

then look at cn wiki

[atomic abyss]

i mean if you're not happy with the state of EN wiki... then stick to CN?

[tropic tusk]

oh they finish first?

[atomic abyss]

[opal stream]

CN wiki is more like a guidehub than a wiki ngl

[undone plover]

~~become a green name and help ~~

[inland shoal]

Like 11 or 12h earlier

[tropic tusk]

oh no wounder

[whole crypt]

like normal schedule EN maint starts around time CN ends

[atomic abyss]

CN finishes their maint before we even start ours lol

[stark quiver]

a chinese game finishing in chinese time is normal

[wispy pendant]

does CN art have any censorship this time around?

[tropic tusk]

yes

[whole crypt]

the usual fogging I guess if you don't do the fiddly modding thing

[stark quiver]

does SP5 give the same amount of coins as 12-4? or a comparable amount

[undone plover]

do i need to change ranger+mahan for SP4?

[jaunty vault]

eh you get the full art ingame even on CN

[knotty garnet]

I heard Oigen Muse is stupid good

[whole crypt]

less

[inland shoal]

Uhh did you need MLB or sth for skin share?

[eager mulch]

mine started to die but that might jsut be me

[stark quiver]

a lot less? cuz i kinda have 300 coins and cant pull

[whole crypt]

I'd say yes, lv 77 so slightly short

or was that SP5... either way didn't make it

[eager mulch]

SP5 boss is lv 80 so

[opal stream]

uh no?

[whole crypt]

oh 60s

[undone plover]

~~if only wiki had info so we know ~~

[whole crypt]

but yeh 4 oil wasn't cutting it I think

[eager mulch]

skin share is on 100 aff yes?

[atomic abyss]

remains to be seen
her damage is higher than eugen yes
but it's eugen so

[whole crypt]

so much less 3 oil

I'm just getting SP3 to safe to see if it can be 3-oiled

[opal stream]

play CN and do SP5 with 0LB

[inland shoal]

100 affi? That's annoying

[rocky fjord]

isnt shinano chan stronger than many golds

[whole crypt]

essentially

[inland shoal]

Which info? Map data? It has tho
Totally not since like 10s ago

[knotty garnet]

I could do that tbh. Seeems like a hassle tho.

[eager mulch]

she has a flex slot and the same loadout as bignano with 5% less slot 1 and 3 eff

she is also super cute

[knotty garnet]

Not the worst, I could see new players farm for this.

[undone plover]

does SP5 drop gear skin or am i mixing up events?

[whole crypt]

you want to do SP5 anyway because points

[knotty garnet]

Yes.

[steady beacon]

Ye I think uh
All? Maps in Muse events drop gear skins

[tropic tusk]

so many levels

[frail ledge]

I am done already with the event

[tropic tusk]

so fast

[whole crypt]

the stages sure, pretty sure you're not done with points yet, and probably not the stamps and stuff

[eager mulch]

#al-general

[uncut creek]

do i need to have shinano chan in the fleet to gain trust with her, or can i just run sorties with any fleet and get trust with her?

[eager mulch]

dont need her

[whole crypt]

winning boss fight with shinano-chan onboard just doubles the trust point gain, but you'll overflow anyway even without her

[eternal basalt]

You can double your trust with her though

[knotty dome]

does clear with full combo just mean kill all mobs in one run as usual?

[ivory linden]

Do rehearsal buffs apply only in event stages?

[knotty dome]

thanks

[eternal basalt]

Not lose a single battle

[eager mulch]

all stages

[dry tree]

any build recommendation for Noshiro Muse?? like a similar ship build I can use?

[wispy pendant]

noshiros

[whole crypt]

OG Noshiro's gear works... or just don't use her at all

[eager mulch]

shes just standard CL build with IJN gear rec right? just use like 155 kai or smth

[wispy pendant]

just pick at least one IJN gear, either CL gun, AA, or torp aux

[eager mulch]

rainbow quints if you're feeling spicy

[atomic abyss]

well og nosh could run the single 150 since her barrage was solid but

[inland shoal]

Well step 1 is oath her, step 2 is return to port
Also that seems to be Formi's idea of a lunchbox, no wonder she's...aahh I never said anything

[atomic abyss]

no im not kidding

[worldly pewter]

i need that double trust tech since i m not touching the event this month

[atomic abyss]

the issue is moreso that the single 150 is a meme

[worldly pewter]

oh wait even campaign stages give trust

[whole crypt]

why won't you touch the event stages, event shop exists

[worldly pewter]

i need coins

[sweet delta]

No we literally don't care about 2020

[worldly pewter]

i need like 150k coins before the month ends

[whole crypt]

why the hell would you need 150k in 4 days

[cobalt rapids]

when i need coins i go grind coins

[worldly pewter]

going to try and replicate what pilicat gave me

for harbiter

[whole crypt]

honestly not worth the effort...

also you can still farm event next month, there's 2 weeks

[worldly pewter]

yeah that is why i m going to ignore the event and do it next month isn't it a good strat ?

[eternal basalt]

Do SP each day atleast

[eager mulch]

not taking advantage of sp smh my head

[worldly pewter]

yeah will do

i mean not SP5

[sharp token]

how good is kazagumo?

[eager mulch]

v good

[cobalt rapids]

the best ara ship

[whole crypt]

I mean I don't find harb that important but if you haven't cleared and really want to
you still don't need the double trust for Shinano-chan regardless

[worldly pewter]

yeah 5 months into the game already
not doing harbi at this point is kinda of a massive skill issue

[whole crypt]

I personally don't think it is, but again, you do you

[nocturne garden]

As a newer player, is it worth to pull on the main banner or just do 3 pulls on light for the event quest, considering it is not an ur event?

[wispy pendant]

yeah you tell them

[whole crypt]

as a new player just do 1 daily light, banner's not that great and points can be farmed so no point wasting cubes

[nocturne garden]

aight, thanks!

[wispy pendant]

You could still do 1-3 pulls a day, but new UR coming end of may for CN anniversary, and another UR Rerun probably not that long after.

[whole crypt]

3 pulls not worth the points

[night pumice]

is there a way to check what level enemy fleets are before I send stuff into the node

[nocturne garden]

yeah i'll just stick to the 1 daily build, thank you boiz!

[inland shoal]

I'd only consider doing 3 pulls if I pull the event

[whole crypt]

you could check wiki

[night pumice]

the page for the event isn't up yet so I was hoping I could check ingame or something

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Heart-Linking_Harmony

[night pumice]

it's up now? I checked it about an hour ago and the page wasn't created

thanks

[half plover]

how do you guys pull this event? is it a good strategy to get one SR and pull 3 ships daily until getting the other during this event and try to pull more at the last day of the event?

[eager mulch]

all in day 1

[half plover]

my gold says no 💀

[whole crypt]

saving cubes is best to do 1-3 daily, but if coins are a problem you won't have time to farm on last day

[wispy pendant]

3 pulls a day till end of event, and then pull for what you still want is what people normally say for pulling on a banner you actually want.

[inland shoal]

In theory if you want all the ships optimal would be doing 3 pulls every day and then the rest on last day ig

[half plover]

ty

[night pumice]

I'm just doing pulling the light banner, the banner probably isn't worth it from what I heard

[half plover]

I just want them for collection, I really like their designs

[night pumice]

only ship I'm hoping to get out of this is eugen from the event shop, but that hope might go up in flames if the rest of the nodes are higher levels than my fleet

[viscid swift]

~~collection rate is totally worth dumping 300 cubes on this ~~

[half plover]

last stage is lvl 78

this event seems way easier than the previous ones

[whole crypt]

if you don't have enough coins then do 3 daily first, but you'll need to farm coins across the event to push
also not worth cubes if you don't have a lot

[viscid swift]

it is an SP format event so that's to be expected

[night pumice]

well, damn. I only got one ship at that level

[wispy pendant]

UR and UR reruns have a pity pull on the 200th build, 400 cubes. That's usually what people are thinking when they give you 400 or 800 cubes to save.

[half plover]

I have 190 rn

[whole crypt]

yes muse event sre SP and are lower level

[night pumice]

guess I'm skipping this event then

[whole crypt]

honest opinion save for UR

[half plover]

what about the "pity count" in this event, when will it reset?

[wispy pendant]

I'd only do 1 light build a day if you are at 190

[kind slate]

is it worth farming this event?

[half plover]

it seems like it carried over from past events

[whole crypt]

there's no pity, that's just adding to perm UR

[wispy pendant]

the pity count is for nj and shana, it won't reset

[half plover]

oh

[eternal basalt]

Pity is global pity

[half plover]

ty, but I will probably do 3 pulls daily

[tame orchid]

So any idea which levels have oil cap?

[whole crypt]

SP5

[wispy pendant]

what about this event is worth farming? Is it just the shop, or we actually like farming bofors?

[tame orchid]

Wb hard?

[keen sable]

you will run out of coins which is the real resource

[wispy pendant]

no hard mode

[whole crypt]

SP doesn't have hard

[viscid swift]

there is no hard mode

[worldly pewter]

do u have credit card gaming option for the cn anni ?

[tame orchid]

Huh

[half plover]

no need for cn anni, I will get it sometime else

[tame orchid]

Well not much difference from when i farmed polaris ig

[half plover]

if I cant get them

[whole crypt]

it's exactly the same format as Polaris and Universe for points

[inland shoal]

Just farm enough coins for 400 pulls, if you have to pull that many you're ded anyway

[wispy pendant]

no need for UR, but need muse ships?

[crisp wadi]

Man got THAT dedication

[eager mulch]

dont need one specific ship to clear the game

[half plover]

yess, tbh I already have kron and cant build it bc of lacking UR bulins. worst case it that I either get nj and build her first and kron after

with more UR reruns this year I might get too many URs to even build in time

[crisp wadi]

How much is it, 300k yeah?

[wispy pendant]

but CN UR might be better than existing UR and won't rerun for over 2 years?

[whole crypt]

in a few months time you'll be missing the UR more than you miss the muse ships, but you do you

[night pumice]

since I want to get something out of this event, is there a way to quickly level five ships from level 40 to 80, or around the mid-70s

[viscid swift]

considering that the new UR will almost certainly be more valuable than NJ or Kronk

[inland shoal]

400 would be 600k

[half plover]

how many cubes will we approx get until cn anni?

[acoustic thistle]

Does the new Echoes of Relinquished Time aux only work for the regular akagi? Or akagi u as well?

[wispy pendant]

it's about 300 cubes a month, right?

[whole crypt]

it's in about 1 month so 168++

[acoustic thistle]

Oh okay

[worldly pewter]

they are giving 20 from missions

[wispy pendant]

is this closer to the right number?

[viscid swift]

168 is the guaranteed amount per month

[jaunty vault]

168 is guaranteed

[half plover]

probably not from comissionns

[eager mulch]

168 is the amount youre guaranteed to get

[half plover]

so the real number is way greater

[jaunty vault]

you get quite a bit more from commissions and events

[whole crypt]

the actual number will go up by quite a bit depending

[worldly pewter]

realistically with the events and login it will be around 200

[whole crypt]

but I'd say over 200 should be expected if you play regularly between now and CN anniv

[wispy pendant]

okay, so 200 a month is typical for a few commissions plus guaranteed 168?

[half plover]

when will cn anni drop?

[soft raft]

Late May

[jaunty vault]

200 would be including the guaranteed 168

[whole crypt]

likely 23 May

[sharp comet]

what r the badges and stickers for in missions

[jaunty vault]

but i think 200 is a low estimate

[half plover]

so I should be good for 1 UR if I just pull light from now on

[jaunty vault]

and i think 300 is a high estimate

[half plover]

but when will muse ships rerun

I want noshiro muse 😭

[sharp comet]

2 yrs

[keen sable]

fastest way is commander level boost but if not then grind outside event until you can reach cost limit(SP5) this is the shortcut.

[whole crypt]

they've not rerun in the past but they will archive

[wispy pendant]

OG noshiro is in WA

[jaunty vault]

event has barely started and you already want it to rerun

[sharp comet]

ok

[half plover]

I dont want it to rerun I wanted better luck to just get the 2 srs in 25 pulls haha

[worldly pewter]

the fact that the banner doesn't have a pity is a big oof ngl

[wispy pendant]

game is full of hard choices for the new player. Choose wisely

[crisp wadi]

Does the minigames have rewards or nothing

[keen sable]

i want you to go to #off-topic but it probably won't happen either

[night pumice]

should I be aiming for 3 stars or just clearing with as little fights as possible

[soft raft]

Eh no not really

[wispy pendant]

3 stars has bonus

[whole crypt]

one of the aux

[wispy pendant]

only sp5 is worth going faster for oil cap

but the difference is smol

[night pumice]

hmm

[half plover]

so would you say pulling 25 times day1 was a bad idea to get 1 sr?

[keen sable]

you want to avoid event until you can do sp5

[night pumice]

oh

[whole crypt]

depends on the SR but the ships this round are pretty bad

[viscid swift]

according to my soon to be written guide to 100% yes

[wispy pendant]

for a new account with less than 500 cubes, yes, that wasn't super smart

[worldly pewter]

do ur calculation and u should be good to guarantee the cn anni UR

[night pumice]

that's gonna be a while then most of my units are lvl 30-45 with one exception

[whole crypt]

I totally did not do 70 pulls on day 1

[half plover]

I already pulled 25 times and got formidable muse

[night pumice]

and I don't have any ships rarer than elite lmao

[keen sable]

that's normal. usually the tryhards reach SP5 by second sunday starting from new player.

[wispy pendant]

newbie guide is best for you

[viscid swift]

Formidable is like the worst SR from this event

[whole crypt]

doesn't change the fact that the muse ships are bad

[crisp wadi]

I think you get the point by playing the minigames right? Is the point gonna increase 1 per day or I can just speed run it?

[worldly pewter]

also the cn anni lasts for 3 weeks afaik so there is still more potential to burn cubes u are willing to take the sac

[whole crypt]

timegated, but you can do it all on day 7 onwards

[half plover]

if it is 400 cubes and I just do light pulls it will be guaranteed

[inland shoal]

Ngl some of the elites look like they might be better than Formi

[keen sable]

that's also recommended although maybe you should verify you're using Pennsylvania, Unicorn, someone, Portland, Helena, Laffey/other starter

[half plover]

they aint bad if they look good haha

[worldly pewter]

#gameplay-help message

[half plover]

ooh ty

[whole crypt]

well this is gph

[night pumice]

this is pretty much what I have

kinda worried about ammo costs tho and I don't have enough good ships for a second fleet

[keen sable]

more grind then

[wispy pendant]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[eternal basalt]

It won't EVER rerun

[keen sable]

you won't be using a second fleet and ammo is irrelevant when you come back and sledgehammer it with overleveled ships in a 1:1 for 3*

[wispy pendant]

that's what we used to say about collabs

[whole crypt]

muse events don't rerun they just archive straight

[viscid swift]

The last 2 muse events didn't rerun, went straight to archive

[wispy pendant]

that's what we used to say before when we had WA step ups

[viscid swift]

What

[wispy pendant]

we haven't had a muse event since we stopped having WA stepups

[whole crypt]

what does that have to do with reruns

[wispy pendant]

now things get archived without a short step up banner

[viscid swift]

And that changes things how?

[wispy pendant]

i'm saying I don't think we know if today's muse event is exactly like previous muse events in how it will archive or rerun or anything

[eternal basalt]

They did get rate up when archived even on JP

[viscid swift]

If you want to make that argument look at any of the LNY events

[jaunty vault]

i never said we were getting one

[viscid swift]

All the build able ships went straight into the perma pools

[wispy pendant]

did the most recent LNY event to archive get a rate up ?

[viscid swift]

None of them have

[wispy pendant]

k, so these ships might not ever rerun, is that what we're saying?

[soft raft]

no the LNY ships just get archived the year after they run

[viscid swift]

Yes, based in the last 2 muse events

[whole crypt]

the event will probably not rerun but they'll get added to perm pool without rerun

[keen sable]

global raids don't get archived

[night pumice]

ah okay. out of curiousity, does it matter exactly what that extra ship is

[wispy pendant]

how long till perma pool addition?

[viscid swift]

Who knows

[wispy pendant]

more than 2 years likely?

[keen sable]

you may not have a lot of choice but preferably a CV (not CVL)

[viscid swift]

I'd give it a year

[whole crypt]

I vaguely remember Polaris took longer than Universe

[night pumice]

oh cv

[acoustic thistle]

So with the new aux akagi is still not that good right? Since she still need to be pair with kaga

[night pumice]

guess I'll start looking for one

[whole crypt]

needing to use with Kaga aside Akagi's kit is just meh by today's standards

[night pumice]

CV ships are mostly elite and sr aren't they? CVL are the ones that keep cropping up in map drops

[cobalt rapids]

wasp the only below elite cv

[keen sable]

shinano-chan and enterprise in medal shop are mostly likely the meta picks but you may have morale issues with shinano-chan

[night pumice]

damn

[still thorn]

is formidable U any good?

[night pumice]

I can't force a certain ship in medal shop can I?

[inland shoal]

So far looks really bad

[keen sable]

only somewhat by joining the correct server

[still thorn]

I thought as much.

[night pumice]

ah. well, that's a shame

[sweet delta]

Looks like average gold CV

[still thorn]

only one I was missing from the event so far, didn't want to buy cubes for her if she's bad

[sweet delta]

Great option for stronghold if you use akagimu

[night pumice]

looks like my only cv is shinano-chan then

[polar venture]

Is the event worth pulling for? I have 37 cubes

[cobalt rapids]

not rly

[eternal moth]

I'd save them

[cobalt rapids]

considering its right before cn anni

[eternal moth]

We have a UR event happening in about a month, so yeah, just save your cubes

[polar venture]

What does this ur do?

[eternal moth]

We don't know. How long have you been playing?

[cobalt rapids]

no information we just expect it based on precedent

[novel solstice]

If it's like every other gatcha UR, it massacres everything in its path.

[polar venture]

A few months. Not long really but long enough to get nano

[eternal moth]

ok yeah, then just do 1 light build/day and start saving for the next UR event

[polar venture]

Is prinz eugen in this event worth switching out a Portland?

[jaunty vault]

sure, if you can afford the bulins

[cobalt rapids]

i would wait

[wispy pendant]

is the ex hard this time?

[cobalt rapids]

prinze muse is less tankier unless shes in a mobbing environment and gives no tech and costs gold bulins and mobbing for mid game progression is low prio

[atomic abyss]

I'd say not worth

[jaunty vault]

less tankier than port?

[wispy pendant]

finish portland for beginner missions, then move on the anchorage, that your catchup is hopefully set to

[cobalt rapids]

#gameplay-help message based on this

[polar venture]

I don't have her

[wispy pendant]

do you have her set to catchup in your researches?

[polar venture]

No rn it's monarch

[wispy pendant]

fail

set your research to PR4 and your catch up to anchorage, and develope anchorage when you can. She's a great tank replacement for portland

[jaunty vault]

well if youre assuming bossing content where no mobs
then even portland wouldn't be a good tank

[cobalt rapids]

no but portland doesnt cost anything and counts for ancho tech if i 120 her

[wispy pendant]

work on old season catchups after you're done with season 4 and season 5 catchups, imo

you can even coin finish old ships and then use their catchup for core to buy prototype blue prints

[cobalt rapids]

btw which description is true wiki or datamine for eugen ?

[jaunty vault]

im gonna assume wiki

[vale spindle]

The game code says just eugen

So if en says that too then its just a translation error on dataminers part

[cobalt rapids]

ig that makes her tankier by abit

[crimson glacier]

whats up with eugen?

[wispy pendant]

do we know if eugen muse can wear the rentable skin? I couldn't get her to wear it

[cobalt rapids]

when a Vanguard Fleet ship defeats an enemy, heal that ship by 1% max HP, and that ship gets +8% CRIT RATE
that ship is actually eugen only

[jaunty vault]

heal only heals self

[sleek spade]

Is eugen u good? Looks decent

[cobalt rapids]

crit rate aswell

[crimson glacier]

i see

[jaunty vault]

looks decent for a gold ship

[sleek spade]

Nice. Now I can use Eugen

[jaunty vault]

idk how much damage she does

[sleek spade]

Nah she just needs to be hot

So I can 100 affinity her and put her as secretary

[cobalt rapids]

then u couldve used original eugen

[sleek spade]

no

[celest sentinel]

nice priorities

i absolutely agree

[jaunty vault]

muse is hotter

[dim summit]

what level is sp5?

[cobalt rapids]

78-80

[worldly pewter]

remember that enty is in the beginner rewards

[sharp token]

if you would compare yuudachi retro and kazagumo, who is better?

[vale spindle]

kazagumo is better support yuudachi is better damage

[sharp token]

how about kawakaze and kazagumo?

[vale spindle]

same thing, kawakaze is better damage kaza is better support

kawakaze damage after unique augment is similar to yuudachi retrofit too

[eager mulch]

Kazagumo 2nd best ARA

[hollow gust]

Kawakaze is significantly sqisher , although in my runs kawakaze does noticeably less damage then yuudachi

[sharp token]

but the only access for kawakaze is the merit shop

[eager mulch]

Kawakaze is in war archives

[vale spindle]

only access for yuudachi is 6-4 boss rng drop

This is why we recommend neither and instead you should invest in ddg

[inland shoal]

Hmm mine were quite similar in the dmg department when I tried both

[sharp token]

on ddg's an shan class who's on the top? i currently have taiyuan

[cobalt rapids]

tai yuan

[sharp token]

how so?

[cobalt rapids]

highest dmg

[stark quiver]

what are the EX stats

[wispy pendant]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiF6Y8vRWlc
Looks straight forward

[stark quiver]

so medium armor

[brisk dragon]

when was story chap 15 added?

[cobalt rapids]

yuudachi bad

[rocky fjord]

which meta is that

[cobalt rapids]

its temperance

[sweet delta]

Mby yuudachi needs like +13 gun to beat Kawa +6 gun

[rocky fjord]

kawa has bonus cl dmg

wellit's fleetwide

[cobalt rapids]

they are in teh same fleet

[rocky fjord]

did you choose sap gun or light gun on yuudachi

[cobalt rapids]

100kai

[rocky fjord]

temperance spawns the med tentacles right

[cobalt rapids]

yeh

[rocky fjord]

so still a little unfair (but also fair(?))

[sweet delta]

Nobody said the goal was to compare light

[rocky fjord]

the original question had no goals

[winged mauve]

is perform a full combo the same thing as defeat all ships?

[inland shoal]

Yup

[winged mauve]

they need to make that clear lol

[inland shoal]

Well ig there might be a difference that if you sink you can't do it anymore, but idk for sure

[winged mauve]

oic

ty anyways :D

[ruby grotto]

hope this is not a stupid question... what are the point of muse ships, other than waifu/collection? They don't provide fleet tech right? Are some of them strong as meta? Trying to understand if pull or not

[viscid swift]

this is pretty much just a collection banner

[ruby grotto]

lol nice name, thanks

[thorny grove]

that is something i will remember

i just don't feel like pulling anything from this banner

[graceful meteor]

formi u is fun, also I would pull all anyway

[thorny grove]

I mean I have 30 free units of dock space

[inland shoal]

Some of them are somewhat decent ig

[graceful meteor]

when you don't have enough dock space, just buy more

[haughty dust]

should I really save all of these purple boxes for any reason or just open them all up and get rid of anything that’s trash out of them?

I am aware some research projects require those boxes, but I’m not sure if it’s really worth it even doing those research projects in the first place.

[inland shoal]

The only reason everyone saves them is cuz opening them is really really annoying to do

[haughty dust]

what do you think? Should I keep them or just get rid of them all after I rack up so many?

[crimson glacier]

there isnt any benefit or downside for keeping them

[haughty dust]

I mean, for example I know there are research projects that require those boxes as currency to start them. However, I have always felt especially lately that it wasn’t worth it.

[crimson glacier]

none of them are good

older players just have thousands of those lying around

so i guess you could just open them and scrap the results but thats just takes so long

compared to how little you gain

[winged mauve]

i pull just for noshi :3

she was the last one i got though 😭

[crimson glacier]

#al-general

[winged mauve]

i was replying to the convo above

[half plover]

the AA prints from sp5 are great, I dont even have a single good aa gun. I wanted to ask if this is generally a good gun to use or if the other AA guns are usually better?

[crimson glacier]

cool i dont care

[viscid swift]

it's pretty mediocre at this point

I'd rather just stack roombas for early game AA

[half plover]

oh that's not what I wanted to hear

[inland shoal]

I mean it's not great, but 99% of AA guns are worse, there's only like 4 that are better (For pure AA purposes not including accels)

[crimson glacier]

what AA gun is it

[inland shoal]

quad bofors

[half plover]

oh the roomba is actually good? I got one gold one at +10

[crimson glacier]

i guess its fine but id rather not use them

imo roomba is much better

[half plover]

I never saw it in gear recommendations on the tier list so I thought it is bad

[wispy pendant]

It’s there for AA carry boats

[crimson glacier]

unless you are at the endgame where its for opposite of AA carries

[wispy pendant]

What’s end game carry? Ur gun only?

[crimson glacier]

or sextuple

[half plover]

so since I only run purple quads it is still better to get and use the gold quads

until I get better aas right, I only got one gold and one purple roomba

[viscid swift]

the quad bofors i not worth going out of your way to farm

but if you get enough to craft one sure, use it

[half plover]

yeah, I mean it is good to farm sp5 anyway, right? for event points

[wispy pendant]

Yes and event missions

[half plover]

or is this event like completely skippable

[wispy pendant]

Also yes, but event store has decent stuff to buy.

[half plover]

ooh I didnt see it

[jaunty vault]

does clear with full combo mean kill all enemies

[half plover]

yes

[jaunty vault]

[wispy pendant]

The isp levels get you a cube on first clear and the milestone rewards are decent up till 30k. Most events are worth going to 30-60k and buying out most of the shop.

[half plover]

ah, do you know by any chance if the 1k oil from the event shop gives back 450 event coins?

if yes this would be high prio?

[wispy pendant]

The oil and coins are worth getting.

[drifting pecan]

does muse ship increase collection rate?

[wispy pendant]

Probably oil first coins almost last unless you’re need them for building.

[crimson glacier]

muses are included in collection%

[wispy pendant]

Pretty sure the data mine has a shop priority

[inland shoal]

@jaunty vault If you want to test it...

[half plover]

yeah it does, but I wonder until when it is "good" to farm the event

[crimson glacier]

isnt the prio the same for all events anyway

[half plover]

like what would be the last item I wanna get

[inland shoal]

Until we get an event with a real bad gun or sth yeah

[wispy pendant]

Farm till you buy all the things you want. Farming past that might not be worth.

[half plover]

alr ty

[drifting pecan]

any clue how to get the older muse ship?

i want to pair all of them

[viscid swift]

check the wiki

[wispy pendant]

To save on bulins, you can farm till you get all the eugen you need or buy the rest. The shop stays open for a week after the event is over.

[viscid swift]

some of them are in the shops, most are in the build pools

[drifting pecan]

thankyou~

[half plover]

also if I dont get a eugen muse I should always save up 8k to get her on last day from shop, right

[viscid swift]

yes

[crimson glacier]

the shop stays for 1 week longer than the event

[wispy pendant]

Wishing well is an option for getting the perm pool muse ships, but wishing well is not worth if you don’t have a surplus of cubes, and muse ships are lower priority than several other perm pool ships.

[slow fox]

Hmm. We'll work with a no estimate, and a max estimate.

So something like Prinz Eugen μ zero kills, and then a reasonable amount of kills for W14/15. That gives onlookers a good range for Eugen's performance.

Like, just tossing a number out there...20 kills.

[sweet delta]

What's eugenmu ehp with no kills

[slow fox]

90

[cobalt rapids]

#gameplay-help message

[sweet delta]

90k tons?

[jaunty vault]

fml

will also try not killing all mobs

[cobalt rapids]

not killing all mobs doesnt count for full combo

[jaunty vault]

fuck

[inland shoal]

Your sacrifice is appreciated

[half plover]

does anyone know what this is in the event shop?

[worldly pewter]

should be cosmetic box

[cobalt rapids]

unique aux

[half plover]

the aux is the other one

but the skin boxes are here

[worldly pewter]

if u have the jp name i can elp u but chinese

[cobalt rapids]

no thats

[thorn tartan]

why do some of the ships wear medical masks......... does that help with defense

[worldly pewter]