gameplay-help

[south sequoia]

MLB is everything

well not quite literally everything

but it's extremely important

[jaunty vault]

5star kron probably better than maxLBmaxRetro port

[sweet delta]

LB2 kron beats Portland so no

[atomic abyss]

well LB2 ye i guess

[sinful elk]

Yeah i am reaching for kron lb2

[atomic abyss]

but eh

you need to mlb port and retrofit her

for beginner rewards

[bleak mica]

I mean if the boss is still moving around on the battlefield?
I've never noticed my sub's delay so I'm not really sure... none of them has the Hull design.

[atomic abyss]

the rewards allow you to get a free SR ship sooo

[sinful elk]

What nelson is sr????

[late flame]

after retrofit

[atomic abyss]

my issue is moreso
do you REALLY want to sink your extremely limited to come by even for old players
into the worst UR ship

[atomic abyss]

there are a few beginner missions, nelson is just the 2nd reward

[sinful elk]

Yeah i guess i am gonna do the beginner mission thingy

[atomic abyss]

and yes nelson herself is pretty decent

[hard mesa]

they will just shoot straight if boss moves out of range while theyre still attacking

[sweet delta]

If the boss moves close then yes it may be in range

[atomic abyss]

kron probably ate all the oil

[sinful elk]

70 per engage is crazyy

[sweet delta]

But bidder and g7e have awful range

[atomic abyss]

I mean
Kron costs 15 oil
Port and Helena cost 10

My issue is moreso that

[atomic abyss]

^

Cos we will likely see a new UR in May

[sinful elk]

Wait is Belfast decent for the mid-late game

[atomic abyss]

Noooope

In 2019 maybe

[sinful elk]

Naw dont tell me i invested the wrong one again 💀💀💀

[atomic abyss]

For a new player
The frontline to invest in is like
Portland Helena Starter

[sweet delta]

Almost all ships work through midgame

[atomic abyss]

It depends on the definition on mid game admittedly

[sweet delta]

Belfast works through chapter 14

[atomic abyss]

But for a player with low bulin count

It's probably not the best investment

[sinful elk]

I poured 2 yellow bulin into her just hours ago

[atomic abyss]

Yeah um

[late flame]

oof

[atomic abyss]

My condolences

[late flame]

also me: invested in jean bart before volga

[hard mesa]

is she mlb now?

[worldly pewter]

[sinful elk]

Lb2

[atomic abyss]

I mean
An old player would invest in JB over Volga yes
Because JB came out years before Volga

[sinful elk]

Volga is good right?

[atomic abyss]

Excellent yes
Tho unicorn retro is far better so

[late flame]

i am not old player since i joined uh late dec 2022

[sinful elk]

Holy i made a correct investment

Mlb volga hits different really

[atomic abyss]

MLB backliners hits different really

[hard mesa]

welp might as well finish belfast. she still usable up to w-12. at least you get tech pts for mlbing her

[atomic abyss]

[sweet delta]

14

[late flame]

firepower+1

[atomic abyss]

I mean a lot of things are still usable then so

[sinful elk]

I am desperate for backline BBs like warspite but gawd just keep giving me CV

[hard mesa]

dw too much about wrong investment decision

[late flame]

uh forget about warspite

[atomic abyss]

Warspite sucks anyways

[sweet delta]

You shouldn't be desperate for warspite

[atomic abyss]

Nelson will work better lmao

[sinful elk]

Naw?? I see many retro mlb warspite in exercise just obliterate my fleet

[atomic abyss]

Warspite retro was a thing in pvp maybe in 2019

Anyone who has them in PvP are old players who have likely quit

Or players that just have stopped caring about PvP...

[sweet delta]

That's low tier and low level PvP of course a level 120 warspite will wreck your level 80 fleet

[atomic abyss]

^

[sinful elk]

90 actually 😡

[late flame]

the meta for #pvp has moved much since

[atomic abyss]

Warspite is really expensive to retro for alright performance

[late flame]

too expensive for too little returns.

[sinful elk]

Dawg.. is monarch good to focus on after i finish sanit louis

[atomic abyss]

There are better retros to invest in

Neither Monarch or Saint Louis are particularly good to focus on in today's age

[sinful elk]

Those 2 are the only i can afford to develop rn

[atomic abyss]

Then maybe don't

Like genuinely

It's not like you can even max saint louis quickly anyways

You can't raise research ships like normal ships

[sinful elk]

So what priority ships that is valuable for doing main story

[atomic abyss]

I already said
Portland Helena Starter

[sinful elk]

backliner,,,,

[worldly pewter]

i think after saint louis u need to focus a little bit on campaign then iron blood tech for fdg

[atomic abyss]

Backliner...
A BB, Unicorn + something else

Volga is fine to be that something else

[hard mesa]

nelson independence saratoga

[sinful elk]

Oh yeah is gascorge muse good

Literally my only gold bb 💀

[atomic abyss]

Well, not the worst but
Why don't we see what BBs you have

[worldly pewter]

ur goal is to make a generic fleet that will carry u to 9-1

[atomic abyss]

Nelson from guild shop iirc?

[sinful elk]

Nah i got her from drop

[hard mesa]

rookie reward too

[worldly pewter]

nelson is from the reward also can be dropped in archive but needs the ability to reach d3

[atomic abyss]

So use Nelson instead

[sinful elk]

My kron and laffey can carry me there 💪💪

[sinful elk]

But to get nelson I need to invest in portland

[sweet delta]

[atomic abyss]

And that's why you need to invest in Portland yes

[worldly pewter]

then invest in portand she will be used for another fleet if u are still lacking tanks

[atomic abyss]

You are given a free gold rarity ship for completing all the beginner missions

[sinful elk]

Another day praying to god please give me a gold bb 🙏

[atomic abyss]

Not like all gold BBs are good

Also you just lost 2 gold bulins to Belfast

[worldly pewter]

retro nelson is arguably one of the best

[atomic abyss]

I would say invest in Pennsylvania but you don't have her so

[worldly pewter]

i think until now i didn't use use another BB other than nelson before moving to URs

[sinful elk]

Wa duh hel....

[atomic abyss]

The issue for beginner players is the lack of gold bulins to MLB ships

Hence why we recommend to invest in good low rarity options

[worldly pewter]

oh yeah penny has FP tech at lvl 120

[sinful elk]

Time to wait for weekly mission i guess

[atomic abyss]

So for now welll

[hard mesa]

nope, rld

[sinful elk]

Oil drinkers

[atomic abyss]

I suppose just stick to gascogne muse until she hits level 80

And work on that Portland asap

[sweet delta]

Well that fleet sucks

[atomic abyss]

And Kron goes and sits in the second fleet to rest in the meantime

[sinful elk]

Why are you that bold 😭😭

[sinful elk]

I don't think that is possible shes the main damage and tank in the fleet

[atomic abyss]

Portland is a tank

And early on, your backline should be the dps, not frontliners like kron

And unicorn healing should fix all issues anyways

[sinful elk]

Sound like my second fleet tbh ( tries to survive until cvs ready )

[worldly pewter]

but for me kashkent was doing all the dps was i doing something wrong

[atomic abyss]

You don't even need a second fleet till after w9

The thing is that Tashkent is an actually proper DPS

[worldly pewter]

yeah makes sense

so tank off tank dps in the middle for the mobbing vanguard is the way to go
and whatever someone has for the main

[sinful elk]

What dds are good to invest in this fleet beside laffey

I felt kiev suck somehow

[worldly pewter]

i think u only need 1 DD

[atomic abyss]

^

[worldly pewter]

put laffey inside port and helena

or kron here

[south sequoia]

No one really, laffeys enough

[atomic abyss]

If you really want to use Kron
Drop the Helena for now I suppose

Kiev is about as good as laff Kai admittedly

[sinful elk]

Wth why does her skills do like 4 dmg per bullet 😭

[atomic abyss]

But again, you only need 1 fleet
Focus on that 1 fleet for now

Let's see
She's 41 levels under
Probably has no equipment
Is not limit broken
Is probably not enhanced as well

[worldly pewter]

skill level too

[sinful elk]

I got that one 4

And equipments are... just everything i have

[atomic abyss]

Level difference actually factors into damage calculations beyond having worse stats

Each level difference is + or - 2% damage

[worldly pewter]

yeah skill level is just a multiplier of all that is above

[sinful elk]

Should i just revert time and get those 2 gold bulin into kiev instead

[atomic abyss]

No

Again

Stick to 1 fleet

Focus on Helena Portland and Laffey

That's all

[sinful elk]

Well thats a good point but gotta remove kron the oil drinker asap otherwise i will just play tb simulation 💀

[stable badger]

which is better at Cross-fleet support? Guam or Unzen?

[atomic abyss]

If you really want to use Kron
Replace Helena

But yes, just focus on that single fleet

Unicorn and Portland are your priorities I suppose

[late flame]

and dont bother using purple elite meta units

[ivory linden]

Would this be a good mob fleet for w14 assuming proper gearing? https://x94fujo6rpg.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

Also replace laffey with laffey 2

[atomic abyss]

A new player will not have Laffey 2...

[cobalt rapids]

you cant share fleets like that u need to copy the full link
or take a screenshot better

[atomic abyss]

If they had Laffey 2, they would likely have Guam and Soyuz too

[ivory linden]

I'm not new though

[atomic abyss]

Oh you mean you

[sinful elk]

Ok but i guess volga just take unicorn spot for now

[cobalt rapids]

yea looks fine assuming u gear them appropiately

[atomic abyss]

Makes sense to me

[atomic abyss]

Nah fam
Unicorn higher priority

[ivory linden]

Alright thank you!

[atomic abyss]

She's an elite
So you can save your gold bulins lol

[late flame]

and oil

[sinful elk]

I mean the blueprint part ( my luck horribly suck )

[hard mesa]

still good pre-retrofit

[sinful elk]

I grind nonstop 4 days to get laffey retro

[atomic abyss]

Yeeep

[pure geode]

you can't "grind" hm tho

but yes do the same for uni

[hard mesa]

retrofit make her able to heal main+ steal mvp

[pure geode]

with preload

[frank pulsar]

what ca is carl comparable with in terms of dmg

[cobalt rapids]

drek

[atomic abyss]

Somehow I doubt that

[jaunty vault]

yea she doesnt do nearly as much

[sinful elk]

Unicorn is pretty good as a healer but currently for damage volga still stand above her right

[frank pulsar]

who is she comparable to then

[atomic abyss]

I mean
That's why I recommended you to keep your fleet as BB Uni Volga

Instead of raising another CV

Unless your "other" CV is like an Enterprise or a Saratoga

[sinful elk]

I got enty

Hours ago 🙏

[atomic abyss]

Then raise her too
....if you had enty, why did the bulins go into Belfast

[cobalt rapids]

i guess well never know

[atomic abyss]

All gold bulins for now go into enty
So I suppose it's
BB Enty Uni
Portland Helena Laffey

You can shift Volga Kron and other stuff to the boss fleet in the mean time

Mob fleet is better used to level up stuff anyways

[sinful elk]

Because my fleet aa is total shit ( no joke )

[atomic abyss]

And Belfast would not have necessarily fixed that issue

[frank pulsar]

does she at least have more dmg than azuma?

[atomic abyss]

...I think she can outdps Azuma
Don't quite me on that tho

[cobalt rapids]

according to cn she beats drek in dps when paired with high fp ships so take that as u wil

[frank pulsar]

thats good enough reason to raise then

[sinful elk]

Cl has great aa than other type of ships right

[atomic abyss]

Generally yes

But I don't think Belfast is the solution to that

Especially considering the gold bulins she costs
That's why we said Helena lol

[cobalt rapids]

ca fp+1 is a good enough reason to raise i agree

[sinful elk]

Just another week i will regain those gold bulins 😃

[atomic abyss]

We would have been more likely to accept if you gave "glasses" as an excuse...

[paper mural]

For fighting the boss in 15-4, I have a front line of JdA, Sandy Kai and Anchorage. Should I replace JdA with Plymouth?

[sweet delta]

Only if you need Jeanne for mob

[paper mural]

My mob is Guam, Laffey 2 and Shimanto. I'm not sure she could replace any of them

[sinful elk]

btw does the data archive fight things worth spending time in?

[sweet delta]

She could, but no need to

[frank pulsar]

if you mean war archives, not rly unless you need tech points

[round hare]

When would be the estimated rough date/month when aquila is added to perma pull / war archive? Or whats the current war archive queue

[paper mural]

I'm trying to make my team better. I'm not able to consistently clear 15-4 and often need to reset

[silver lintel]

Jda is the consistency boost

[paper mural]

My mobbing fleet is Musashi, Aquila and Unicorn + Guam, Laffey 2 and Shimanto, while my boss fleet is Bis2, Volga and York2 + JdA, Anchorage and Sandy Kai

[soft raft]

we have no clue except for that she should be the next in line

[paper mural]

Sub fleet is Archer, Albacore and Flasher

[sweet delta]

Use the mob fleet for first and third boss

[paper mural]

That seems like a bad idea. My mob fleet will have most of its ammo depleted and will also have fought many mob nodes

[round hare]

Hmm usually how long does it take for an event to be put in WA after rerun? Or no fixed pattern?

[frank pulsar]

i agree tbh, your boss fleet is weaker than your mob

[soft raft]

roughly a year or so after rerun
but that's generalizing it by a huge amount

[sweet delta]

15-4 has an ammo node

[round hare]

Yeah and its already been more than a year so im just questioning it to see if anyone got a clue

[rapid grail]

Legit just take the ammo node when there are just 3 enemy nodes left

[paper mural]

I'm taking them when I'm at 3/5 and 4/5, to take advantage of the additional 10% boost when at 4 ammo or higher

[sweet delta]

So how do you run out of ammo

6 mobs and 2 bosses is 8 ammo

[paper mural]

I don't. By the time the boss spawns, my mob fleet is still at 1/5. But the fact remains that the mobbing fleet has fought a bunch of mob nodes and has depleted HP

[sweet delta]

Oh you said most ammo depleted, not all ammo

[paper mural]

Meanwhile, the boss fleet only went through one fight against one of the bosses

I kind of doubt low HP mobbing 1/5 ammo fleet would fare better than 4/5 ammo with most of its HP intact boss fleet

[sweet delta]

The mob fleet should be at near full HP, are you using formation, subs, gear, and cats correctly?

[paper mural]

And by the time the final boss fight ends, there are casualties and most of my ships are low HP

[paper mural]

20% AA formation, currently using subs against boss nodes and whenever I need it until the final boss spawn, while bearing in mind saving them for the last one. Summoning them at 2:30

Gear is basically copy pasted from that one resource that's been shared on this server. Only exception is that I'm using JdA instead of Brest

Cats, I'm mostly using the ones that help CV's, because they make up most of my backline. One for CV's and one for BB's seems unfocused to me, so I choose both being CV cats

[sinful elk]

i mean like gears for ship like the gold steam aux

[frank pulsar]

not worth, especially for newbies

[soft raft]

^
At most you're only gonna do Divergent Chessboard for IB tech points and Skybound for JdA

[paper mural]

My fleet tech stats are probably the crappiest part of my build. I have 18 CV RLD, less than half of what one can possibly have, and it obviously impacts my ability to heal ships on my fleet. More RLD would translate to more heals, because airstrikes come back off cooldown more quickly

[sinful elk]

idk i heard the gold steam cap is the best aux a cv can afford

[paper mural]

At this point, only thing I haven't done is +11 my anti torp bulges and +13 my iris AA guns, which I would think shouldn't be necessary

[frank pulsar]

yes it is, but the drop rate is terrible

[cobalt rapids]

more rld would translate to less downtime and better wave timings but not more heals unless marginall case where ur vang is ending the battle right before an airstrike which is not often the case

[south sequoia]

It is one of the best auxes but it is not worth it to farm there of all places

[paper mural]

Happens a lot to me, actually. My vanguard ends fights inbetween Unikai and Aquila's second or third rounds of heals

[pure geode]

it is and you get them from tech boxes, it's also rng but you'll get more than what you'll ever need

[paper mural]

With more RLD, I could get Aquila's third heal too

[sinful elk]

so where can i easily get it?

[south sequoia]

Techboxes

[soft raft]

any gold rarity tech box

[south sequoia]

Its not something you should stress over getting

[sinful elk]

my luck is total shit

[south sequoia]

Ans thats fine

[soft raft]

99% of the gear in WA is obtainable from other sources like gear lab, research, and tech boxes

And most importantly, Gear lab and Tech boxes give a fully useable item while if you were grinding WA, you'd have to collect blueprint fragments and be at the mercy of the droprate

[paper mural]

Does the 15-4 boss have a lot of torps?

[south sequoia]

Only the beginning mobs before boss spawns

Hatsu and Wakats have it too I think but not as much

[sinful elk]

this is so painful

[paper mural]

Then maybe I should replace the torp bulges with repair toolkits for the boss fleet

[hard mesa]

Not a lot but hurts bad

[soft raft]

Welcome to the grind

[paper mural]

Or give Anchorage Cosmic Kicks + washing machine at the very least

[south sequoia]

Eh it moves so slow its easy to dodge them

[sweet delta]

How healthy is the boss main fleet if it fights first and third?

[south sequoia]

I've never had much issue with the torps from hatsu and wakats since I manuel'd

[paper mural]

First boss, my vanguard is at roughly 70-80% HP

And on the third boss, it's a close call

[sweet delta]

Main fleet

[hard mesa]

Yeah it comes down to whether you can avoid torp or not to vanguard survival when boss appear

[paper mural]

Main fleet isn't suffering much from the first boss, but they start dying on the third boss

Volga especially

But it's my vanguard that dies the most and spells my defeat anyways

[sweet delta]

Unfortunate if all three of vanguard and main fleet amd mob fleet are low then you can't rebalance them.

You can change Volga to klaudia

[paper mural]

Does Klaudia heal better than Volga?

[cobalt rapids]

vanguard

[paper mural]

Worth a try, I guess. How are the two's damage outputs in comparison?

[sweet delta]

Klaudia does a bit less

[kindred snow]

yo does anyone know where you find the crit rate?

[cobalt rapids]

you need to calculate it off stats

/wiki damage calculations

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Damage_Calculations

[worldly pewter]

generally 3★ hard maps are enough to get u where u want

[paper mural]

I'll try replacing Volga with Klaudia then. But just to be safe, how about Painleve?

[cobalt rapids]

downgrade

[paper mural]

Perseus I understand is bad for W15, so that's another healer off the list

[kindred snow]

ahh ok ty

[sinful elk]

They keep popping up the yellow bp meanwhile i spend weeks and all i get was 1 yellow and 10 trillion blue bp

[cobalt rapids]

percy isnt bad theres just better options

[paper mural]

The fact that she blows her load in an instant and then takes a long time means she might overkill one wave and have nothing for the next

[cobalt rapids]

shes not overkilling waves in 15

[paper mural]

Is she still worse than Aquila, Volga etc. in w15 then? Sounds like her main issue is nonexistent in this content then

[sweet delta]

A good solution was to move the better gear from mob to boss, but somehow the mob fleet struggles with 6 mobs and second boss?

[paper mural]

She takes twice as long to reload but will still deal twice as much damage

[worldly pewter]

3★ is a guaranteed 2 yellow bp for the respective stage so for example x-1 is a guaranteed 2 DD prints u get from missions
as long as u do the first and last ★ the middle one doesn't cost entries

[paper mural]

It's probably worth noting that I often find myself fighting three triangle nodes. The reason why is because I don't want to find myself in a situation where I kill lower mob nodes with high ammo, then RNG gives me hard mob nodes afterwards

[soft raft]

*Note that each 3 ⭐ reward is only a one time reward so you still have to grind your ass off in regular hard mode

[paper mural]

That includes BB and CV nodes. I take it as having to fight them eventually anyway, so might as well do it now while I have the utmost advantage

[sinful elk]

I understand but hard stages is limited so it is just grind and grind... painful

[sweet delta]

The 10% buff from 4+ ammo is really irrelevant in mob

1 ammo is effectively the same as 5 ammo

[worldly pewter]

u only needs to retro 4 ships and they don't share bp
unicorn laffey port and nelson

[soft raft]

that's 4 ships you listed and no you'll be doing more than 4

[paper mural]

So in 15-4, just fight the easiest stuff as it comes along, since I won't be running out of ammo anyway by the time the boss spawns. And perhaps this can allow me to fight two bosses with my mobbing fleet, since it won't be low HP?

[sweet delta]

2 special CV nodes + 4 large or medium reconnaissance + second boss

[paper mural]

Another thing I don't do is use the airstrike command. I should probably do that

[sweet delta]

Wdym it won't be low HP? What nodes were you picking before?

[paper mural]

I keep forgetting it exists. I assume it does some percent damage, but to be honest, I don't get how that works when sub fleets in attack mode do it either

[paper mural]

Three triangle nodes, pretty much all the time, due to aforementioned mentality

[cobalt rapids]

reduces max hp of the target node by X%

[paper mural]

Fight them now, you'll probably have to fight them anyway because of future RNG mob spawns

[sweet delta]

Airstrike does 10% damage, so it doesn't matter much

Which three triangle nodes and how many of each

[paper mural]

DD, BB and CV. 6 in total

Mostly DD nodes

[sweet delta]

Either pick 2 CV 4 DD or pick 6 DD

[paper mural]

Are BB nodes the most dangerous?

[sweet delta]

Usually 6 DD is available, though sometimes it won't . Or you can 2 CV and 4 DD to benefit your boss fleet anyways

[paper mural]

Right, I did not mention that I do fight both green CV fleets. Figured that should be obvious because otherwise I'll have to put up with enemy barrages all the time, and I'm already struggling as is

Then I'm doing 2 CV 4 DD, counting those two

[sweet delta]

Killing the green CVs is good to help your boss fleet with 1 and 3

I just skip them because I don't do 3rd boss

[sinful elk]

Ikr but the point is the chances to drop purple and yellow bp are pretty low and we can only do one 3 star stage in a day to guarrante 2 drops and left the rest for the daily grind is just crazy is my point 💀

[sweet delta]

Was vanguard or main fleet low HP on mob?

[paper mural]

Front line mostly. But sometimes Musashi goes low too

That might simply be because I was doing additional BB and CV nodes

[sweet delta]

DD bb CV all do about the same damage to vanguard

[paper mural]

If my Musashi has relatively high HP, I take my chances with a BB or CV node. Or at least I did. And then I'd switch it up with a DD node to give her some time to heal

[sweet delta]

What the gear

[paper mural]

That'd take a while to list, five pieces of gear for all 12 ships that I use, not counting the support fleet

Dunno if it's good to do in this channel, should at least make a thread

[cobalt rapids]

u can just mirror it on that site

[sweet delta]

~~Which site? ~~

[small fern]

is afking 3-4 good (im new)

[plain saffron]

no

[cobalt rapids]

||hidden in a cats profile||

[small fern]

at world 5 so

[south sequoia]

Nope

[soft raft]

Then absolutely not
your priority right now is to push to W9 asap

[south sequoia]

If you need levels just spam the highest level your ships can do

[small fern]

oh alright

[small fern]

why world 9?

[soft raft]

And if you were wanting to get Akagi and Kaga, they can come aloooooot later

[south sequoia]

/oilcap

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901103255935942706/969285900607553606/unknown.png

[small fern]

ahhh thank you

my main fleet is moody rn so im afking with my second fleety

burning my oil

[sinful elk]

You will soon understand this vibe

[small fern]

i already burnt away my excess oil from the mail

[paper mural]

W15 gear

[plain saffron]

||i'm dumb and still didn't understand||

[sharp token]

would there be a rerun for musashi?

[worldly pewter]

mails don't go away
they have infinite duration

[sinful elk]

oh my gawd how do I level up my commande level fast

[south sequoia]

spam highest level your ships can beat

[sinful elk]

Obliterated yuudachi and then the next stage say " require lvl 50 " 😭

[small fern]

yeah but i claimed mine

[late flame]

6-4 is where yuudachi at hmm? i should revisit there for poi farming

[sinful elk]

So.. i am just repeating 6-4 until i reach lvl 50?

[south sequoia]

yep

[sinful elk]

My god... kron will def drink my oil in 10 sorties

[late flame]

unless you fancy a visit to akashi but imo it isnt really worth spending

[wind hazel]

maybe don't use Kron

especially if not MLB

[tawdry basin]

anyone got tips to get better

[late flame]

better at what

[sinful elk]

Well i am trying to replace her with portland but gawd dam port just sometime straight up die during mob fights ( shit air )

[tawdry basin]

not dying in game

[sharp token]

does crossfleet skill in kron is timing or depends on your BB?

[late flame]

dying where

[wind hazel]

level portland up, limit break her, give her good gear

[tawdry basin]

anywhere

[south sequoia]

its timed

[frank pulsar]

where are you dying and whats dying

[keen sable]

if you're ships are like 90+ you can try PP SP5 in War Archives. You can see if ILD D1 is passable also.

[tawdry basin]

idk im stuck idk sh- bcs i always skip dem tutorials😭 \

[late flame]

skill issue or maybe gear your ships and use decent / good ships

[crisp wadi]

Bring a healer?

[sinful elk]

Thats what i am trying to do but i will have to stick with kron for a while since i have no tanks

[lethal adder]

shd i use Otto von Alvensleben or San francisco?

[rapid grail]

go up to world 12-4
farm ship xp, coin, cogs at 12-1, 12-2 and/or 12-4
play OpSi for gear materials
do commissions regularly
don't beglect research projects and pr ships
craft some good gear
so on and so forth

[tawdry basin]

there are healers.

[rapid grail]

Depends on content. Both r usable

[keen sable]

my tip is to create a thread, post your dock, etc, and ask for help

[frank pulsar]

where youre dying as in what stage

[late flame]

and maybe read sam's newbie guide

[sinful elk]

PP SP5?

[small fern]

they werent wrong when they said portland was cheap , i already have enough to limit break and retrofit her

[tawdry basin]

4 something idk

[rapid grail]

passionate polaris sp5
iris of the light and dark d1

[tawdry basin]

i suck at the game ik

[south sequoia]

passionate polaris 🐌

[keen sable]

avoid 3* aviation nodes? (Now you know what plane spam in 13 and 15 is like)

[frank pulsar]

make a thread and post your fleet and dock like what unique suggested

[sinful elk]

What those drop tho???

[tawdry basin]

thing is im too lazy

[south sequoia]

Early access to oil cap and clearing rewards

[crisp wadi]

You sure already bring a healer? Like retro unicorn? But i doubt you alrd retro her

[lethal adder]

Just returned to AL and was wondering whether my lineup is good enough

[south sequoia]

Then that is simply not our problem.

[tawdry basin]

i didnt even know there were healers

[late flame]

if you are lazy to help yourself then wish you luck

[sinful elk]

Guess I'll start that grind thanks homies

[frank pulsar]

asks for help > doesnt want to act on said advice

[lethal adder]

for some reason my san francisco and otto are extremely paper so idk whether i shd replace them

[south sequoia]

We can't directly help you if you aren't going to take incentive to start helping yourself

[atomic abyss]

If San Fran is paper then you're gearing her wrongly

[south sequoia]

and placing

[lethal adder]

i thought my roon was supposed to tank lmao

[rapid grail]

biszwei, nj
Damn u good for up to w15 lol

[atomic abyss]

She's not particularly chonky (like Agir) admittedly

Roon loses out in tanking to Carl doesn't she...

[soft raft]

there's more to it than just those two

[keen sable]

no but you can probably weasel your way past 13 (eventually).

[soft raft]

Yeah Roon is essentially a Portland Sidegrade

[atomic abyss]

A very expensive side grade lol

[lethal adder]

but my backline shd be pretty good right?

[keen sable]

it's irrelevant because she's done

[atomic abyss]

Btw can someone drop the airstrike calculator here
I'm having trouble timing my avp cos of the reload buff

[lethal adder]

cuz im using NJ biz and uni for now

[frank pulsar]

your zwei is deadweight atm cuz no limit breaks

[soft raft]

depends on the content
also using non MLB ships is frowned upon quite a bit

[lethal adder]

MLB?

[late flame]

max limit break (full stars)

[frank pulsar]

use a different ship thats max limit break (MLB)

[soft raft]

Max Limit Break
IE Full stars

[south sequoia]

https://traneptora.com/azur-lane/cooldown/airstrike/

[atomic abyss]

Thanks cleo

[keen sable]

using 3 capped ships is an even bigger waste

[lethal adder]

wait sorry for asking but limit break not equals awakening right

its the one where you need UR duplicates?

[south sequoia]

limit break is stars. awakening is levels beyond 100

[lethal adder]

oh ya crap my bad lmao

[south sequoia]

it doesn't need to be dupes since you can use bulins

[mellow cape]

Typically you want to focus PR so using non MLB/non maxed ships gives you nice exp gain and lowers oil cost while you're spamming a node for exp

[lethal adder]

i got 2 for now but i wanted to save for shin

[mellow cape]

But maxed MLB ships is nice for op si

[soft raft]

oil cost shouldnt matter if you're doing W9

[lethal adder]

im at W10 now

[mellow cape]

Oh lol

[atomic abyss]

Wait
Fuck, AvP was 2/3/3?

[sinful elk]

I feel like i can beat this with only using laffey

[atomic abyss]

Fucking hell no wonder I'm having issues

I thought she was 3/2/3 cos of the fighter efficiency lol

[late flame]

lol

[keen sable]

yes, use less ships (probably 1:1) until you get to SP5

[lethal adder]

wait till what stars do zwei becomes good?

[atomic abyss]

All of them

[sinful elk]

Yes sirr

[mellow cape]

Maxed

[atomic abyss]

All ships want full limit break

[lethal adder]

NJ too?

[atomic abyss]

This is especially so for backliners

[keen sable]

you might want to retreat if you went into SP1 with 90 oil fleets @sinful elk

[atomic abyss]

Zwei and NJ lose about... Maybe 30% of their damage without the last limit break

[crystal parcel]

Guys can you recommend me a good beginners guide? I have been playing for a bit but dont understand a lot of mechanics yet and I want to set myself up a bit.

[soft raft]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[crystal parcel]

Thanks

[atomic abyss]

Actually in all seriousness
Is it worth giving AvP a particular good DB?

[kindred dust]

Is there any meta opsi fleets comp

[atomic abyss]

3x110% efficiency

[sharp token]

Yuudachi - Tai Yuan Retro who's better on exercise and Opsi?

[lethal adder]

right now my oil consumption is like 80 lmao

[atomic abyss]

Well..
This is going to be a pain to time

[atomic abyss]

Yuudachi is retro?

[sharp token]

yes forgot to type

[soft raft]

#pvp for anything regarding to exercise
Opsi kinda depends on where specifically

[atomic abyss]

1 fleet is your mob fleet
2-3 fleets are boss fleets - 1 BB based, 1 CV based, the other depends

[mellow cape]

@kindred dust do you want mobbing fleets that can basically handle everything except arbiters?

[keen sable]

first clears sure but you shouldn't be doing anything but cost limit from now on

[soft raft]

• Mob fleet
• Anti-medium BB boss fleet
• Anti-medium CV boss fleet
• Anti-light BB or CV boss fleet

That's the general setup

[mellow cape]

I have mine set up as
Mob fleet
Anti Light
Anti Med/Anti Heavy
And Cross Barrage fleet

[kindred dust]

Was using vv aquila percy poikai kronk duca no issue except arbiter for a long time, now id like to upgrade/try something different. Thinking of maybe musushi unicorn fdg hindenburg emden shima for mob. Would it work

[lethal adder]

My current lineup is NJ Zwei Uni ; San Franc San diego and Roon. Anything I need to change? Cuz i gonna speedrun my way to w14 lol

[soft raft]

Uni will not be enough fighter coverage for W13
you might have to go triple CV if needed

[kindred dust]

Thx

[normal crane]

Is there any hint before getting SR or UR ship?

[frank pulsar]

itll work if you gear right and use max limit break ships

[soft raft]

no not really
best is looking up their build timer but if you're doing 10 stacks you can only see two at a time so eh

[atomic abyss]

The build timer could be an indication

[lethal adder]

which is a good CV?

[soft raft]

there are quite alot
depends on who you have right now

[normal crane]

So like the usual is about 3ish hours right? So for sr and ur is above it?

[silver lintel]

Sara indep are prolly most accessible

[frank pulsar]

any cv with high fighter count or strong fighters are good in plane heavy content
ships like illustrious, independance, indomitable, etc

[crisp wadi]

Didn't it depends on hull types too?

[normal crane]

I have no idea

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Building#List_of_Ships_by_Construction_Time

[frank pulsar]

you can check wiki for build timer of specific ship, theres no one fixed timer

[atomic abyss]

It does

[lethal adder]

i got taihou, Ticonderoga,Formidable,Chise Asukagawa

[atomic abyss]

Tico would be the best from that lot I guess

[keen sable]

enterprise, volga, aquila, 🌈

[hard mesa]

Based on ship class. Like soyuz and rossiya have same timer because theyre both soyuz class

[silver lintel]

Taihou with aug is good mobber

[atomic abyss]

But she can't AA

[lethal adder]

I think i got enterprise

[silver lintel]

Indep is enough

[frank pulsar]

ticon would be best there, imho youll be fine without since you literally have a maxed sandy to aa carry

[atomic abyss]

Guy ain't using indep so

He was intending to go to W13 with 2 BB

[lethal adder]

actually yorktown 2 is a independence unit? Like i cant upgrade normal yorktown to yorktown II?

[atomic abyss]

Yorktown II is its own unit yes

[late flame]

they are separate

[frank pulsar]

yorktown ii is a different ship from yorktown

[lethal adder]

lmao

[atomic abyss]

Different class too
Yorktown I is a... Yorktown class (CV-5)
Yorktown II is an Essex class (CV-10)

[crisp wadi]

Do kronk gun works on agir?

[frank pulsar]

yes
its her second bis

[lethal adder]

Yea i thought they are related...

I missed some banner regarding Implacable as well

now I see shes like top tier so rip

[frank pulsar]

tai yuan still worth 125? i almost never see ddg nowadays outside mobbing

nvm ill just do it i got plenty of array spare

[sinful elk]

Wait.. what happens after i beat sp5?

[atomic abyss]

I mean to be fair, there's not many DDs worth 125-ing...

I blame Laff II

[frank pulsar]

half my 125 vanguards are dd wdym
8/20 of them are dd/ddg, close enough

[gray aurora]

i got 3 UR bullins and a kronstadt copy and just got shinano from pity. do i:
mlb kron now?
mlb shinano next month
or save until new UR

[atomic abyss]

Definitely not Kron

I'd say save for the time being

[frank pulsar]

wait to see new ur first imho

[late flame]

skip kron
mlb shinano if you have haku done
or save

[gray aurora]

i have haku fs5 ready

[crisp wadi]

You can get aux after 60 times or if you lucky, you can get b4 60

[atomic abyss]

If the UR is worse than Nano, then you can MLB nano I guess
Otherwise just just save

Oh

[sinful elk]

Yeah i know about that 60 times grind but dawg is that it worth it

[frank pulsar]

aux has no guarantee, only the ship

[gray aurora]

about when is a new ur to be expected?

[crisp wadi]

Late may maybe

[frank pulsar]

the major upd in may

[gray aurora]

aight ty

[plain saffron]

aux is after 60 only, no rng/not a drop

[sinful elk]

My gaw...... when will vanguard gets a rerun....

[frank pulsar]

i completely forgot theres a wa for auxes

[plain saffron]

within this year at least

[sinful elk]

On god?

[crisp wadi]

Did it worth the grind tho, I think 60 is too much work for me

[hard mesa]

I think you still need 60 clear to get heel aux.

[sinful elk]

I need that stage 9 reach asap these girls drinking oil like sea water 💀💀💀

[plain saffron]

they're ship after all

[normal crane]

Any chance unzen rerun this year?

[crisp wadi]

Alrd got the heel, is the dress in unison worth?

[crisp wadi]

Shes just released last year

[atomic abyss]

Given URs rerun take around 2 years... Don't hold your breath

[plain saffron]

release date + 2 years is roughly rerun
she was may 2022

[sinful elk]

Yeehaw gonna save up cubes

Vanguard my beloved,,,,,,

[atomic abyss]

By the way is it just me or is AvP a pain to make her launch ahead of other CVs against RodM

The DB slots are hurting my sanity

I suppose making her launch with other CVs is incredibly easy but AAAAAAAA

[plain saffron]

isn't it kinda hard that you need a spreadsheet to sync with haku and shinano

[atomic abyss]

Yeah I thought I could avoid it because I wasn't using those 2

I was using Ark and Centaur
And I've just pushed Centaur's launch ridiculously far up cos lol CVL reload
The issue is ark clashing with avp

[kindred dust]

Any suggestions over oversight for this fleet setup for opsi?
@soft raft

[atomic abyss]

Ideally ark should be slower than avp
But the issue arises the moment I put even a semi decent DB on AvP

[kindred dust]

Havent raised/dont have guam laff2,kear,harbin😭

[frank pulsar]

how do you have 2 hinden your 4th fleet looks
also mobbing dd would be better than emden prob

[kindred dust]

Is my 4th fleet ok for anti light?

[sinful elk]

Yo chat what aux should i save up/buy

[atomic abyss]

To be fair, my 4th fleet is just cross fleet spam

/coredata

[late flame]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[thin anvil]

worth it to upg?

what should I do with her?

[late flame]

shelf her

[frank pulsar]

keep around or retire

[atomic abyss]

Absolutely not worth using

[sinful elk]

Dawg.. i want to further invest in my volga but it seems the plane choices are very limited

[kindred dust]

This any better?

[frank pulsar]

two uvh...

[lethal adder]

Is Taihou any good?

[kindred dust]

Lemme fix that real quik💀

[worldly pewter]

isn't she good for iron blood tech ?

[frank pulsar]

with augment yes, might be a little expensive though

[icy mountain]

is it fine for me to get independence?

[frank pulsar]

which is why i said keep around as first option

[kindred dust]

Nj in fleet 3 sound good?

[icy mountain]

nvm i already have saratoga

[crisp wadi]

You still need indep tho

[atomic abyss]

You'll need to get Indep eventually

[lethal adder]

Actually do y’all buy skins for ships that are good or y’all just buy skins that are just good looking?

[late flame]

tbh i'd rather go farm sharn gnei in war archive over using eugen

[hard mesa]

Nj in fleet 4

[icy mountain]

okay then, ill try to get independence

[lethal adder]

Cuz if you buy skins for a trash ship then it’s pretty waste of gems

[frank pulsar]

yes

[hard mesa]

York2 need eagle ships

[late flame]

maybe ask over at #al-general

[crisp wadi]

#al-general

[frank pulsar]

and theres plenty of good eagle cv

[late flame]

in before skins get stats

[pure geode]

its waste of gems however you think of it also not related to gph ^

[kindred dust]

Would replacing avp with independence be a good idea

[late flame]

no lol

[frank pulsar]

use sara or ticon or smth as third cv

[kindred dust]

In place of uvh?

[frank pulsar]

yes

[kindred dust]

Is there any good fleet i can use uvh in that setup i posted

[hard mesa]

Prob witb uvh, put uvh in fleet 3 since theres bizwei there

[lethal adder]

My bad

[crisp wadi]

Didn't it better to make a thread and someone will help you there.

[kindred dust]

I think i got all the advice i needed already

[crisp wadi]

Not really waste of gems, if you love the ship why not buy hers skin

[frank pulsar]

just run
fleet 1 fdg uvh unicorn azuma shima shimanto
fleet 2 nano haku implac kronkstadt kazagumo hinden
fleet 3 musashi zwei vanguard agir helena plymouth
fleet 4 uss cv + avp + yorkii + anchorage ara unzen

[kindred dust]

Thanks, ill give that a go

[open jackal]

for some reason, i can't sustain well enough to survive the boss in sp5 in polaris using this team comp, should i consider getting a temp mob fleet?

[frank pulsar]

not indep though for last uss cv

[kindred dust]

Whats ara

[eternal moth]

Limit break your ships

[frank pulsar]

your issue is no unicorn if youre running single fleet

[open jackal]

unicorn is still way behind (lvl 45)

[frank pulsar]

any ship with air raid assistance, kaza is one of them

[kindred dust]

Ah ok balti should be ok then?

[frank pulsar]

exp pack then

[frank pulsar]

sus pick but should be fine

[open jackal]

aight

[frank pulsar]

if you gear right opsi shouldnt be an issue with those fleets

[paper mural]

Do you only get one air strike in w15?

[kindred dust]

Im following an earlier message to make fleet 4 anti light cv/bb, is there a bb fleet anti light solution, as opposed to the york2 us cv, avp sln?

[frank pulsar]

anti light bb is kms rainbow backline
your current bb fleet would work fine on light with he guns

[worldly pewter]

are u at least using poverty gear ?

[open jackal]

what do you mean?

[hard mesa]

use fleet mentioned before, but switch over uvh and musashi

[frail ledge]

I need help to create the worst fleet in game

[worldly pewter]

bare minimum gear

[open jackal]

yeah, i got t3 gear up to +6

[sinful elk]

What exactly happens in pp sp5

[eternal moth]

That doesn't mean you have the correct gear.

[sinful elk]

I thought we can put everything we see fit until we unlock gear lab

[eternal moth]

If he's using a gold 410, for example, things are going to be bad. And gold BTDs are worse than purple Helldivers

[crisp wadi]

Even you unlock gear lab, its still need collect materials from Ops

[sinful elk]

I haven't reach opsi so

[worldly pewter]

understanding the planes and BB guns is a good start point

[velvet pumice]

recommende comp for the current meta fight? anyone have?

[sharp token]

why i cant see Tai Yuan retro missile on battle, is it different on torp in looks? and what does it look like?

[crimson glacier]

its really fast

[jaunty vault]

it looks like a missile

[velvet pumice]

where?

[jaunty vault]

#gameplay-help message

[velvet pumice]

doable with bb comp?

[jaunty vault]

not one shottable with triple BB

[velvet pumice]

i see

havent touch al for a month and just returned lmao

guess Triple bb not recommended in one shot

[late flame]

just use whatever to 2-shot and peace out at 25k points

[velvet pumice]

im looking for one shot comp to be specific so yeah

welp time to read the guide

[whole crypt]

if you're asking about Rodney there's no consistent 1shot comp

[velvet pumice]

so cv is just happened to have one shot it?

[whole crypt]

CVs better because BBs will shoot at the Rodney copies after first shot
also needs Helena to oneshot

the one no-helena oneshot I saw counts on torp RNG as well so

[velvet pumice]

oh so the currently hardest meta is Rodney?

[whole crypt]

I'd say Jintsuu or maybe Arizona is still worse, as well as was it Repulse or Renown with the awful counter mechanics

[velvet pumice]

i hate jintsuu meta cuz of the pressure she gaves in the vanguard

[warm flax]

Can I get away with full sexy bofors in w15 by manual gaming?

[whole crypt]

chance to oneshot is a stupid way to measure showdown difficulty

[velvet pumice]

Arizona is not that bad tbh since its easier to oneshot it with mushashi just pray that the vang survives lol

[whole crypt]

if you're manual gaming planes probably not your biggest problem

[jaunty vault]

i dont think anyone here has tried that but manual should be easier

unless you suck at gaming

[velvet pumice]

w8 i still hate Gnei Meta cuz of Anti Sub mechanic

[whole crypt]

Gneisenau was easy once you realized you have to bring a hedgehog

and I wouldn't measure how difficult a showdown is by oneshot chance

it's just mechanics in the end

[velvet pumice]

i think the one i love killing is either Kirov Meta or Algerie meta

[dusk maple]

Repulse imo

[halcyon coral]

where can i effectively farm t1 aircraft parts

[keen sable]

war archives only really.

[whole crypt]

was repusle the one that ramps up from super reduction to super damage

[velvet pumice]

forgot about mechanic of repulse

[halcyon coral]

any of them?

[dusk maple]

Yes, starts at like 90% dmg reduction and ramps with BB/CV/torpedo launches

[whole crypt]

yeh something like 2 points for main fleet 1 point for torps then counts up

[keen sable]

if you stick to stuff like PP SP5 or DC it should be ok. If you don't see any aviation nodes then go to a different Archives. is 2-4 really a thing?

[whole crypt]

then passes stupid phases and start maiming you if timing is off

what was renown's mechanic again

[viscid swift]

renown had ramps if you broke her shields or didn't

[hard mesa]

charging attack

[whole crypt]

oh right yeh

[hard mesa]

if she release charge twice, she enter offense mode and can obliterate main fleet in a blink

[dusk maple]

I remember using Drake gun on Agir to avoid one instance of breaking her shield

[whole crypt]

so yeh, showdowns isn't so much about difficulty as much as how to get a comp to become consistent against shitty mechanics

[eternal moth]

When using Archer/Flasher/Alba, I don't remember: Who gets flag?

No, it's not Alba

[inner delta]

im fairly certain it's alba

[hard mesa]

pretty sure between alba/flasher due to flasher skills requirement

[late flame]

alba flag does fulfill flasher's requirement iirc

[eager mulch]

alba not flag also fulfills flasher req

[eternal moth]

I was thinking more because of barrage shape. Archer's is straight out, while Alba's curves up

Or down? I don't remember

[late flame]

down

[hard mesa]

either flasher herself or other gato class

[eternal moth]

I thought Flasher just needed another Gato class, not that one had to be flag

[eager mulch]

youre right

[hard mesa]

oh yeah, my bad

flasher being flagship or bring other gato

[inner delta]

alba is a gato

[eager mulch]

yes but her skill requires either flasher herself as flag or you bring another gato class en

[eternal moth]

Which is why I'm still using Alba

That, and I don't have LdV

[ivory crown]

does main story ch 3+ have story? i havent gotten a single cutscene from ch4 beyond and im on ch9 now

[atomic abyss]

Nope
All your story exists in opsi and events

[ivory crown]

💀

[atomic abyss]

AL isn't known for its story for a reason

[plain saffron]

event is the main story for AL

EN only until ch3, CN/JP(?) until ch4

it's unrelated anyway

[sweet delta]

Yes, it's Alba or flasher, usually Alba probably, and especially Alba when she's hunting hull

[sweet delta]

two BMs, hwahjah or a third BM, and three bulins

[ivory crown]

im on ch9, how would i build my second fleet?

[sweet delta]

By showing what elite ships you have

[sweet delta]

Is Pennsylvania your current BB?

[ivory crown]

bb?

shes here on my fleet 1

oh and i just pulled avrora

[sweet delta]

Nelson Saratoga Volga are good, but I don't see enough vanguard ships. How far are you from Anchorage?

[frail ledge]

Okay I try to play the hardest stage then

[ivory crown]

92/300

[sweet delta]

I mean eagle union tech points

[ivory crown]

what are those

[blazing shale]

This is the highest level for the stat right?

[sweet delta]

What it says there for Anchorage

[ivory crown]

oh wow i can switch priorty i never knew that

OH IS THIS WHAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DOING

[atomic abyss]

Air supremacy is the highest

[keen sable]

Is that really worse than akashi vestal^2

[ivory crown]

bro ive just been grinding research academy

[sweet delta]

The distinct lack of pr4 blueprints is worrying

[kind slate]

if i have the mats, should i prioritise making twin 457?

[sweet delta]

But there's no good second fleet vanguard. You can wait and see if you get eugen mu or noshiro mu who might be good

[ivory crown]

when is that

[sweet delta]

Next week

[blazing shale]

It's the upcoming event

[sweet delta]

Probably

[kind slate]

I’m running soyuz, haku, indep for w14 boss. Could I use twin 457 instead of champy gun?

[umbral briar]

I didn't bring Soyuz, how could her effect be there?

[frank pulsar]

yes, but note that youll want he guns for 14-3 boss

[eager mulch]

Is she in the other fleet?

[umbral briar]

yes her in fleet 2

[frank pulsar]

crossfleet barrage

[eager mulch]

Crossfleet barrage

[frank pulsar]

iirc most if not all gacha ur have one

[umbral briar]

can everyone do it?

[eager mulch]

/crossfleet

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Cross-fleet_Effects.jpeg

[sweet delta]

It would say in the ship's skills

[umbral briar]

If I use everything on the list do they all appear?

[worldly pewter]

cross fleet is a tech to save oil while doing normal diff in events

[swift needle]

Any recommended fleet setup to farm Ark Royal META?
Yes, I didn't play her original event.
Thanks in advance.

[whole crypt]

depends on what you have

[swift needle]

Almost everything. Only missing some single one time event only shipgirls.

[umbral briar]

but that doesn't apply to raids, right? because there is only 1 fleet there

[undone plover]

Yeah but raids are cheap anyway so no need to save oil on them

[whole crypt]

I'd think any top end boss fleet can one shot Ark Royal nowadays, just throw rainbows at the problem I guess

you can use crossfleet to cut costs on maps that don't have cap on lower difficulties, or you can also use it to give you headroom to bring weaker ships to level higher up

raids kind of don't really fit either, since you'll probably just be grinding hard with oilcap anyway and even that's easy to bring lower level ships to without much trouble as long as you are properly geared with maybe a carry or two

also raids isn't exactly a regular event mode you need to worry too much about

[undone plover]

Approx how much dmg is 60 AVI?
I wanna see how much dmg I am missing from tech assuming I max out RLD and ACC

[hollow birch]

is there like a walkthrough about TB's story, can you get all her forms?

[undone plover]

Check the pins in https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1204845559790440488

[mighty turtle]

so, i should just enchane all white ship and retire blue ship?(except the collection one)

[crisp wadi]

You mean using them as enchan material right?

[mighty turtle]

yes, the white ship
and retire for blue ship for the medal

[undone plover]

Retire extra copies and lock 1.
If u are running out of dockspace u can start culling your dock but pick the easily obtainable ones and dont retire event exclusive stuff

[kind slate]

What do I get from this?

[eager mulch]

gold plates, gold mats, a UR selector print

[kind slate]

From each?

[kind slate]

A selector from each?! That’s so good what the heck

[undone plover]

10 free zones from each file with the above rewards

[kind slate]

So if I buy out all 7, u would get 7 selectors?

[eager mulch]

yes

[whole crypt]

each logger gives you a chain of 10 mission zones alongside record files to unlock, with the rainbow design dropping in the last map

[atomic abyss]

Ofc do bear in mind that each one time quest ends in like an major boss

[whole crypt]

the boss isn't that hard, off the top of my head it's not even abyssal level

[crisp wadi]

How hard the boss? Easier than arbiter?

[atomic abyss]

Lv 120 Abyssal bosses iirc?

[whole crypt]

each logger is also only single use so you don't get anything more after finishing each logger

[kind slate]

Also against med boss (siren) should I use ap or he?

[atomic abyss]

Depends on which one, but usually AP

[kind slate]

The jellyfish looking one

[atomic abyss]

But if your BB AP guns are shit well

/sirenstats

[odd root]

https://i.imgur.com/dHVaZV6.jpg https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1222610726682886174/1222610727043334306/METAstats.jpg?ex=6616d7f8&is=660462f8&hm=13d408976d4de7c661c185568633ea69925b4d21b90045c6523b4debc198f9f1&

[whole crypt]

jellyfish is CV with medium, use AP unless your AP guns are shit like 381

[sharp token]

what should i do about those purple bullin? they take so many of my dock space

[eager mulch]

use them

[crisp wadi]

Mlb your elite and below ships

[sharp token]

so it's better use them rather than retire?

[wind hazel]

yes

[crisp wadi]

Yes.

[wind hazel]

unless all of your elite and below ships are MLB

[undone plover]

Use em on USS and KMS ships. Get enough tech for PR4

[wispy cosmos]

has autosearch always only consumed 1 ticket in warchives

[cobalt rapids]

1 run = 1 ticket yea, idk how it was in the past but its been like this for 2 years at least

[jaunty vault]

youd get a ticket for 15minutes

[cobalt rapids]

[jaunty vault]

but if 15minutes passed and youre still in a stage

you wouldn't lose the stage

is that what youre asking astrata

wait idr if this was before auto search

but it consumes 1 ticket even if you use HELP

so the answer to your question is yes

either ways

[kind slate]

Where can I get a tier 2 ord rn?

[cobalt rapids]

opsi

[novel condor]

opsi

[kind slate]

Where in opsi

[jaunty vault]

port shop, cat drop, map drop, abyysal drop

[cobalt rapids]

siren bosses, cat nodes, ports

[undone plover]

Shop > Abyssals/cat nodes

[jaunty vault]

idr if arby dropped em but wiki should remember it

[undone plover]

Which map drops t2

[jaunty vault]

ill tell you next month

[elfin hollow]

What is avp good for?

[cobalt rapids]

freezing stuff

[elfin hollow]

So basically the sakuya of ships

[sharp token]

what do you recommend to farm on war archives?

[cobalt rapids]

basically

[elfin hollow]

Chessboard

German torpedos

And german ships such as the z46

[primal hull]

What's a good money sink now that you can't store over the maximum?

[cobalt rapids]

wdym now, u can store up to 600k

[inland shoal]

To be sure you mean 600k right?

[sharp token]

how about S.P?

[forest palm]

none really, typically passionate polaris for the shoe, or if you're stuck at world 8

[sharp token]

i've reach max so im trying to do 4 sortie a day in archives

[viscid swift]

you don't need to worry about over capping on access tickets

[forest palm]

I haven't touched War Archives since it released

[sharp token]

is this good?

[forest palm]

it's shit

[elfin hollow]

Get the american 406mm purple gun

[eager mulch]

you’re comparing an HE gun to an AP gun

[elfin hollow]

He wants a ap gun?

[sharp token]

what does AP and HE means?

[elfin hollow]

Ap means armor piercing

And HE means high explosive

Ap are good for heavy armor and he for light armor

[primal hull]

Uhm...no? When I am at 92k I can't get any more from comissions?

It just disappears.

[inland shoal]

You can. The only thing you can't collect is the merchant coins

[elfin hollow]

There also sap shells used by the Italians those are good for medium armor

[elfin hollow]

If you have the 406 mm from the soyuz event then use that

[primal hull]

Ok, you're right. I have no idea what I mistook for coins.

[eternal moth]

You can't get over 25k oil, maybe that was it

[primal hull]

Possibly. I was collecting all rewards right on Sunday and maybe went over.

Yeah, you get 4k from the pack and then also from weekly rewards. I guess this must have been oil.

[elfin hollow]

Is there any other way to get iron blood main ships without spending cubes?

[eternal moth]

Divergent Chess Board or Scherzo WA

[sweet delta]

Buy from shops

[elfin hollow]

What shops

[sweet delta]

Medal shop BB

[glass quest]

Is Plymouth with 22/30 dev level useful or nah?

[forest palm]

usable, not exactly recommendable

[sweet delta]

Depends on your other ships

[glass quest]

So I better stick to Mainz and Shimanto e.g. for CL?

[eager mulch]

any ship at any dev level/limit break can be used, won’t necessarily be the greatest tho

[sweet delta]

Dev 22 Ply might be more useful than mainz

[eager mulch]

dev 22 ply vs unknown dev level mainz/shimanto is something alright

[glass quest]

oh my bad; mainz and shimanto are max

[kind slate]

Where is this webpage?

[hard mesa]

dev 22 ply good for BB buff, dev 25 shes good just miss 3rd main gun

[sweet delta]

/wiki operation siren

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren_Exploration
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Memories/Operation_Siren

Apr 20, 2024, 5:59 PM

[forest palm]

Plymouths damage isn't that crazy at Dev 25, she does get the bulk she needs to at least main tank

[hard mesa]

yeah, same as other cl like mainz etc. with skill barrage

[elfin hollow]

Is vanguard event next?

Which is?

[eternal moth]

Muse 3

[sweet delta]

#game-news #jp-spring-2024-livestream-discussion

[elfin hollow]

O so i got it right kinda yesterday (there was going be a muse revival or sum)

[icy mountain]

if i put priority research as fdg and research focus at 4 will i still get fdg blueprintd while getting chances for tenrai?

[sweet delta]

The two systems are independent

[icy mountain]

right?

[eternal moth]

There was an announcement like a week ago that basically confirmed that

[sweet delta]

Catch-up fdg just gives extra fdg bps without affecting tenrai

[whole crypt]

you can't set research priority on a ship, that is catchup, and you will get up to 150 catchup prints for FdG alongside other researches

[icy mountain]

ah kk but i rlly wanna pr anchorage b4 fdg tho

[whole crypt]

more like the announcement for the livestream was basically muse themed

[icy mountain]

maybe ill put anchorage as pr atm

since fdg is coinable right?

[whole crypt]

so is Anchorage

[icy mountain]

so its fine right?

[whole crypt]

you only get a limited number of catchup prints, and for PR the prints are shared with other PR ships of the same series

[icy mountain]

or shojld i just put ships that arent coinable on research prioritize?

[whole crypt]

that's a limited catchup, you'll use them all up regardless eventually

[icy mountain]

hmm

[undone plover]

put focus on PR4
put catchup on anchorage then FdG then agir
research FdG+Anchorage and start coining them (10/day each)

in research academy try and get agir + haku faces first if it is an option or any other PR4 face if it is not

[whole crypt]

basically after you pick a ship for catchup, you get extra prints for that ship until the catchup is fully expended
for DR ships that's 150 prints for each DR
for PR ships that's 300 prints shared with other ships of the same series
when and how you spend them is up to you

[sweet delta]

I would pick any pr5 or 6 D over pr4 gold ship D

[icy mountain]

okay, atm i have 148 anchorage prints ill switch to fdg soon

[undone plover]

i would too tbh but that is too much min/max and i didnt wanna confuse em

[sweet delta]

No point speed running pr4 to be left with 1.52 tenrais

[icy mountain]

i only have 5 tenrai shards kek

[whole crypt]

which is why you probably should spend more time doing PR4 researches that can drop the prints

[icy mountain]

i never do anything other than pr4 researches

[sweet delta]

You don't do half hour Q or D from season 5 or 6?

[icy mountain]

its the best pr from what ive heard

[icy mountain]

only rigging and grant donations

idk about the letters tho

[whole crypt]

you only need to do PR4 for as long as it takes to get "enough" tenrais and to wrap up Agir and Hakuryuu

[icy mountain]

ig i do those letters

although it takes up so much of my coins

maybe ill be able to farm coins soon

[whole crypt]

doesn't look like you should be focusing too much on research by the look of those resources

[icy mountain]

in chapter 9

lvl63 atm maybe jn a week ill be lvl65 hopefully sk i can unlock oil capped stages

[whole crypt]

Q is rigging and D is face, 0.5hr Q and D have the highest gear print rates and you generally would want to take them first for gear even if it's not the series you're focusing, especially for newer series rainbow gear

[icy mountain]

after pr4 and fdg should be unlocking kersearge right?

[whole crypt]

but yeh you're not really at a level to be focusing too hard on reserach

[undone plover]

push to 12 if u can then worry more about research since u need a lot of gold for it

your research picks are not bad but they could be more optimal.

[whole crypt]

there's no real should besides picking a ship you can actually work on and complete, and preferably being a ship you need/can actually use

[icy mountain]

i cant be picky about my researches cuz of my coins, usually i pick one that costs like 8k coins and then the ones that cost 1.5k each

[undone plover]

for now if u have the option of picking Agir or hakuryuu pick them over the other faces

[whole crypt]

just push your chapter progress, 11 and 12 should give you way more coins

you don't really need to push research that hard before 13 anyway

[icy mountain]

i should be able to reach chapter 11 in like 2 months or so

for now ill just focus on getting tech points

[undone plover]

should be able to much sooner if u play enough i.e not overcapping on oil

[icy mountain]

since prints r useless if u cant even develop them

[whole crypt]

I don't get how it's going to take you 2 months to get to 11 unless you're just doing it casually

[icy mountain]

inconsistent schedules since im a student so yeah

[undone plover]

get enough tech points to unlock anchorage and FdG then start coining them. it is much more efficient gold-wise than research. and like i said u dont need to worry about research much right now but just pick the best ones that u can. over time it will add up

[soft raft]

in terms of overall event schedule, no it's the muse event as already stated
in terms of the rerun schedule, she's currently the 2nd event in line to rerun

[wind spindle]

So i'm building up for W15. Looking through the suggested fleets. Illustrious' loadout doesn't have her unique module. is that just because they were built before the module was added or is it not worth using for w15?

[kind slate]

can i get t2 ord from strongholds?

[viscid swift]

the skill upgrade from the augment module has no effect in the support fleet

[eternal basalt]

Only 1 though, and only a chance

[whole crypt]

stronghold bosses don't drop ordnance, you get 2 chances to roll form cats

[kind slate]

so its a gamble?

[whole crypt]

ordnance reports only drop from cat dive in strongholds, so it's RNG

[wind spindle]

So aside from the ports. the only way to get t2 ordinance is through cats finding the rares?

[whole crypt]

abyssals can also drop ordnance reports

[eternal basalt]

Yes, and unlike what nntktt says the boss has a chance to drop 1

[eternal basalt]

See the very end there?

[whole crypt]

that's called a design plan, not an ordnance report

these are ordnance reports

[eternal basalt]

Damnit, everything looks so alike

(Even worse I made all those tables )

[forest palm]

[rose whale]

is chapaev's new augment worth making?

[inner delta]

if you use her alot sure, idt it's worth enough

[kind slate]

Can someone pls help me make a fleet to beat her?

[sweet delta]

hard arbiter is where your fleet matters. For this one, you can leave to heal as many times as you want

[kind slate]

What? I thought leaving resets progress

[inland shoal]

On hard that is true, on normal it is not

[kind slate]

Can you pls help me make a fleet to beat normal then?

[warm flax]

What are usual aux for Plymouth

[soft raft]

Typical CL/CA/CB auxes
Which is to say the typical washing machine + toolbox combo

[inland shoal]

You know the drill, make a thread and post your fleets
They shouldn't be different from your usual OpSi fleets though, you normally just make your OpSi fleets and only update them when you get new ships

[atomic abyss]

what timing do i need to interrupt renown meta's attack

[viscid swift]

Should be 20 seconds

[atomic abyss]

it was before 20

[elfin hollow]

Muse ship all the bad ?

[worldly pewter]

the BB volley is called salvo and the air craft volley is called airstrike ?

[soft raft]

not counting the upcoming ones we currently have no info on, a few (like one or 2) are somewhat useable but overall their value is quite reduced with their lack of fleet tech or tech points
most of them are meh anyways

[elfin hollow]

Alr thanks and the next is brunhilde right?

[unborn owl]

d30 kearsarge or hindenburg? both alreeady 120

[undone plover]

yes but we also call the shots from each MGM a volley so each BB salvo from MGM+2 BBs will have 3 volleys

[soft raft]

Nope

[elfin hollow]

When is the mushai event like what month most likely

[fickle scarab]

Do the pinned xp per oil say xp per ship or for a team?

[undone plover]

end of this year or early next year is most likely when she will rerun (probabaly the latter option given the amount of events that need to rerun)

my personal theory is they will spread the non UR events between the UR ones like how impero ran before Kron

[eternal moth]

That's assuming a 3:3 fleet

[fickle scarab]

So like 21 xp per oil distributed over 6 ships?

It do include flag bonus and exclude mvp right?

[eternal moth]

I recommend looking at the google doc instead of the pic

[fickle scarab]

So I'll assume normal doesn't include both, thx

Math ain't matching no shot a ship will get 7k xp after 6 sorties

[eternal moth]

S rank gives a 1.2 multiplier, are you counting that?

[undone plover]

another 20% from morale so it is 1.44x w/o flag

[fickle scarab]

I thought s would be calced, noi am intentionally excluding high morale

Even then the number is still very far off