gameplay-help

[sweet delta]

the more the merrier (except the useless ones like z flag)

[soft raft]

if you havent even got Wyvern #1 yet, then I think W15 is the least of your concerns right now

[sweet delta]

if you have fewer rainbow AA guns, then your fleet has to be stronger in other ways

[dim summit]

makes sense and also ya no sextuple bofors are the best i have at the moment

[hushed dawn]

How much of an effect does min-maxxing your cats have on your sorties?
Like does it have a huge marginal effect or is it easy to miss?

[keen sable]

Like over the baseline 10%?

[forest palm]

you'll notices it more for high end content, when optimizing for damage, among other things

[keen sable]

probably not much

[forest palm]

like CV timing

[hushed dawn]

Mmmm.

[forest palm]

wouldn't say it's huge mind you

[keen sable]

is your baseline cats 10% though?

[hushed dawn]

I have no idea.
How do I check?

[keen sable]

gold double flame L30 is 10% with no effort

[hushed dawn]

Double flame?

[keen sable]

purples can probably be considered 10% also

[keen sable]

yes flame on each cat. it's common enough

steel, bish, oscar, drake can all start with flame. it's not that rare.

[somber canyon]

So uh... Which gears does New Jersey wants to become "good"? I saw that she wants some gears from gear lab but im not that far on Operation Siren yet, and i kinda wanted to use her now

[forest palm]

it's nothing different from your standard BB load out where the main gun depends on the armor type

[keen sable]

well the gear lab secondary probably will make or break her on the very hardest content but it's just a secondary. she doesn't need gear lab.

[forest palm]

like on the most basic setups this is all without gear lab

[hushed dawn]

Damn none of my cats have flame. 😭

[eager mulch]

+8 shell

[somber canyon]

I see, i tend to be kinda lost sometimes to see which gear is usable on which shipgirl so i wanted to see which gears she wants to have and if i can farm it on campaign

[eager mulch]

luckily, mk6 is available in purple/gold USS tech boxes

[keen sable]

well you can't farm it on campaign either

[hushed dawn]

Wait nevermind I found one with flame but it's on a shitty cat.

[somber canyon]

I buy them from the shop?

[keen sable]

research or core shop

[frank pulsar]

whats the max fp and avi from a cat?

[somber canyon]

Oh good then! Thank you

[somber canyon]

Thank you! That's exactly what i needed

[keen sable]

2.414%?

[sweet delta]

A cat can get 65 Avi from non-faction talents plus whatever from skill and inherent bonus plus whatever faction talent

[elfin hollow]

gold?

[soft raft]

2 SR cats

[verbal rose]

What's the best w15 fighters for support fleet? /w15 doesn't specify. it mentions A-5 is best poverty option, so does that mean stick with gold fighters, if we have them?

[sweet delta]

A5 is top 3

[frank pulsar]

whys it in %

[sweet delta]

I suppose "cheap" is a less confusing word than "poverty"

[elfin hollow]

i have tons of them i jus need what speciifc type i need

[soft raft]

Flapjack > Focke Wolf == Skyrocket

[sweet delta]

I did write cheaper, not poverty

[frank pulsar]

but your actual fleets have prio for flapjack

[verbal rose]

if it's not the best, it's the poverty option

why can we only upgrade T2 Ordnance Reports to T3, but not T1 to T2

[somber canyon]

Bro how do i obtain the B-13 twin and the Twin 40mm? I cant find them among the blueprints, do i farm them in the campaign?

[soft raft]

B-13 is core data (tho imo just go get the PR5 DD gun)
STAAG (The Twin 40mm) is research and gear lab

[sweet delta]

Also note that b13 is a poor purchase

And likely worse than pr5 130 for BBs anyways

[somber canyon]

Does New Jersey rather something else then?

[forest palm]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Prototype_Twin_130mm_Model_1936_Main_Gun_Mount

[open jackal]

is there an effective level farming method? i need to go to lvl 50 to fight 7-1, but i think im farming very inefficiently. i am lvl 46 rn

[soft raft]

You either just continue grinding 6-4 or (if possible) go do SP5 of the Polaris or Universe in Unison WAs to get a taste of that sweet sweet oil cap

Also grind with full fleets

[open jackal]

2 fleets?

[soft raft]

you currently arent really in a position to start working on a 2nd fleet
get to W9 and have your fleet properly raised first before you work on a 2nd fleet

[open jackal]

i see, this is my fleet rn

[soft raft]

Where is your Unicorn

[open jackal]

still raising up, currently at around 40

or should i slot her in now?

[soft raft]

Ehhhh not at that lvl

[rocky fjord]

it could explicitly say "TBs with intercept do not apply"
it's just very specifically saying fighters apply, doesnt necessarily exclude others

[open jackal]

i'll just try afk-ing her in dorm or slotting her in comms for the moment

[kindred snow]

anyone know what the luck stat does? is it crit related?

[dusk maple]

luck affects your evasion rate, hit rate & crit rate

[woeful laurel]

since juneau isn't used in pvp anymore, does she still have any other uses?

[soft raft]

Budget AA carry

[woeful laurel]

who are the other premium ones? correct me if i'm wrong but im thinking there's laf2, guam, scylla, sandy

ah also shimanto i think

[orchid ferry]

what should high efficiency logistic plans be used for?

[dusk maple]

events & archives

[echo axle]

What's the best way to earn cubes

[dusk sparrow]

so I have 2 UR bulins, do I max LB, kronshtadt, or laffey 2?

[woeful laurel]

play the game, don't spend willy nilly

[viscid swift]

what other URs do you have max limit broken

[echo axle]

Ion spend but I'm playing the game but the cubes just seem to get up to 10+ gain only a week later, idk other ways to farm faster

[frank pulsar]

dailies and commissions, and pulling only once per day on light

[dusk sparrow]

Musashi, unzen, Agir, friedrich del grosse, New jersey, all max LB so im hesitating between laffey and kronshtadt

[viscid swift]

considering that in a week you're guaranteed 33 cubes alone not to mention commission RNG...

[viscid swift]

I'd rather save and see what the CN Anni has to offer personally

[dusk sparrow]

alright, ty!

[plain saffron]

should be one according to code

[echo axle]

Alr thanks

[plain saffron]

but i can't find any ingame

[eternal moth]

There isn't one

[plain saffron]

is it normal to not have share button

i guess it's not activated yet

[eternal moth]

What share button?

[plain saffron]

huh so not just me. in JP livestream there is share button at the obvious empty gap

[forest palm]

I assume it's tied to the removing of the Twitter API

[frank pulsar]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/common_resource
theres a section on cubes in this guide i believe

[main latch]

How do i do this ?

[stark quiver]

did the last Muse event have an EX stage

[eternal moth]

Did you read it?

[stark quiver]

Complete 8 Research Projects in the Tech Academy

[eternal moth]

It's currently locked, so you need to wait longer. You only get 1 quest per day unlocked per ship

[main latch]

Oh sorry i was misunderstanding what it was ;-;

[viscid swift]

yes

[vale apex]

when is next event

[jaunty vault]

muse3

oh when

[soft raft]

Next week
we just had a stream covering what it's gonna be 17 hours ago

[elfin hollow]

Can someone tell me what core data i should spend on

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[elfin hollow]

Ah thats how u do it

[jaunty vault]

now that you know, use bot spam for personal commands 😔

[elfin hollow]

Wait does it work better with high standard type 1 ap shell or both core data shell

[jaunty vault]

what does

[plain saffron]

type 1 from core data is better version of purple type 1 shell

[jaunty vault]

better than what

[soft raft]

the skills on both white shells dont stack with eachother btw if that's what you were thinking

[solid harness]

Is there anything special about the muse ships? Or are they normally just collection

[plain saffron]

just like any other ship. some good some bad

[jaunty vault]

we wont know their skillset till datamine drops
the newer ones

[plain saffron]

they're separate ship so treat them as other ship

[elfin hollow]

The white shell with the high stand gun control vs the white shell with red tip black shell

[soft raft]

typical event ships except that they dont give tech points or fleet tech
And that they're Idol variants of pre-existing ships

[plain saffron]

depends

[viscid swift]

What we do know is they won't give tech

[soft raft]

Context dependent

[elfin hollow]

He or she got confused on what I was referring too

[jaunty vault]

white shell is not better than black shell
normally, youd use both shells

[plain saffron]

inb4 patch notes says they do give fleet tech from next patch

[elfin hollow]

No no no i am saying for auxiliary for a battleship is it better if they have both shells or just the white ap Japanese shell with rhe high standard gun control

[late flame]

...that'd be a fleeting thought

[viscid swift]

Eh, if anything a shell plus fire control radar is more prolific at this point

[elfin hollow]

No actually let me just show u

[jaunty vault]

i dont think youre getting what we're saying

[plain saffron]

from what i understand, you asking white + radar or white + black is better
the answer is depends

also usually people us black + radar instead of white + radar?

[viscid swift]

Nope

[elfin hollow]

Which is better*

[plain saffron]

we already answered, depends on context

[viscid swift]

It depends like we said

[elfin hollow]

Oh

[plain saffron]

we understood what you said before

[viscid swift]

It isn't a straight one is better than the other

[elfin hollow]

Well im using it on Soyuz

[viscid swift]

If it were gearing would be a lot simpler

[plain saffron]

if you just farming or whatever any works

[elfin hollow]

For opsi

[viscid swift]

What's the rest of the fleet, probably the former though

[elfin hollow]

(The guns im too poor to getting any better ones) (and this is the main fleet)

[viscid swift]

Yikes that's bad

[elfin hollow]

Well help?

[uneven cave]

Sub d30 FdG

[keen sable]

that's what you're worried about?

[viscid swift]

Well don't use 410s in an Opsi boss fleet for a start

[elfin hollow]

Bro i am trying to

[viscid swift]

You're throwing away so much damage

[silver lintel]

Better run 2 mlb bbs instead

[viscid swift]

The more I look yeesh

[elfin hollow]

What do i use then

[viscid swift]

Just bench Soyuz and FDG for now

[uneven cave]

Vanny without HPFCR still shoots faster than other BBs with HPFCR right?

[elfin hollow]

I have 21 upgrades left until dev30

[elfin hollow]

I dont yet have bulins to mlb souy

[viscid swift]

Mk6s or Champaign guns

[jaunty vault]

hafcr on biszwei makes the abs cd so that she always shoots just before vanny

[elfin hollow]

Show?

[viscid swift]

That's why you should bench her

[elfin hollow]

Already finished benching implacable

[keen sable]

so three days? use better ships for 2 days then

[elfin hollow]

I dont have better battleships then that

[viscid swift]

Doubt

[uneven cave]

Other BBs at MLB is going to be better

[elfin hollow]

I have Amagi but she dies quickly and under 100

[viscid swift]

A 1 LB soyuz isn't that difficult to beat

[elfin hollow]

oh?

i have amagi thou but she is 89 level should she replace soyuz?

[viscid swift]

no, until she's MLB a maxed Nelson retro should do fine

[elfin hollow]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh if i use my coins to speed it up it be under 2 days

[viscid swift]

but frankly there are bigger issues to address

[uneven cave]

LB1/2 BBs lose at least 30% of their damage

[elfin hollow]

i dont have nelson lol

I have hood bruhilde (mlb) vittorio amagi (mlb) naato richelieu surga howe warspite alamba

oh wait i do have nelson

[eternal moth]

Brunhilde would be a good choice for most content

[uneven cave]

Hood, Brunhilde, Howe, Richy all do fine

[elfin hollow]

Brunhilde is level 105

hood is sitting at 90

[elfin hollow]

???

[noble wyvern]

hm ok

[viscid swift]

the fact your ships aren't level 120 and the aforementioned gear issues

[elfin hollow]

is reaching there slowly

[viscid swift]

having your ships at 120 should be a baseline for optimization

[elfin hollow]

(trust Im grinding it while i grind iron blood vanguard points)

(they used to be worst then this)

[elfin hollow]

alr so should i replace soyuz for brunhilde for now? (react with yes or no)

[viscid swift]

W12 with FDG, Vanguard, 3 IB Vanguards, and Unicorn as a carry if need be should be a breeze in W12

[elfin hollow]

im using those ships for opsi

[noble wyvern]

soo do i put kiev and kron at dorm to lvl up slowly or no?

[elfin hollow]

im half way there to world 12 im on the second stage currently

[viscid swift]

it depends, probably not seeing as I doubt you'll be using either any time soon

[maiden wagon]

how to get prototype core for Prototype gears?

[elfin hollow]

^^

[viscid swift]

at this point just leave it as is ship wise, all other options are just worse at the moment for you

[noble wyvern]

then i use them as fleet 2? (been using only fleet 1)

[viscid swift]

probably not, Kron is at the bottom of the limit break queue for URs and Kiev isn't particularly great either

[elfin hollow]

i mean soyuz sometimes out preforms vangaud and FDG

[noble wyvern]

then i shouldn't have bought kiev then ?

[viscid swift]

given the state of gears and levels, that's not particularly suprising

[viscid swift]

no, you should always buy event limited stuff from the event shops, she'll serve her purpose in due course but a ship in the 2nd fleet is probably not one of them

[elfin hollow]

alr I gave fdg the white shell

[noble wyvern]

hm ok

[elfin hollow]

Oh i also have sovietsky but she is on the mobbing with unicorn and indepenece

[hard mesa]

what you have to do now is slowly max them to 6*. at current state they wont work for 3BB vanny formation and opsi stage

[elfin hollow]

vanny ia already mlb

and im still trying to get fdg points

cut me some slack i ran out of oil and coins and i use to had max them out

[pulsar hornet]

I just realized I haven't slapped any EU gear on her. Any recommendations?

[hard mesa]

manjuu dmg control aux

[elfin hollow]

wait is the right side the golden one a american protype gear?

[eternal moth]

It's French

[elfin hollow]

that explains

Ok i changed some of the gear is a bit better at least?

[silver lintel]

Kick soyuz till mlb

[viscid swift]

Yes

[elfin hollow]

Alr

[pulsar hornet]

Wait, who are your BBs? Show dock?

[elfin hollow]

Done

[viscid swift]

You might want to lock your ships

[elfin hollow]

Which

[viscid swift]

All the unique copies, last thing you want is to accidentally retire them.

[pulsar hornet]

Howe would be good to raise and so would be Vittorio

If you need cheaper ships.... why not Nelson and West Virginia (I remember west Virginia can be bought in shop?)

They're the type of shikakan running out of spaces.

I pray they didn't buy any skins with their gems

Just keep buying dock space :V

[elfin hollow]

I do in guilded

[elfin hollow]

W v or nelson?

[viscid swift]

Nelson

[elfin hollow]

Howe or vitto?

I can do expensive I am still needing to grind though (which i still need because im trying to finish getting agïr

[silver lintel]

At 450 docks rn, already retired all commons and story rares

[pulsar hornet]

Vitto would be better if you have alot of Sardegnan ships specifically Aquila and Duca

Howe if you have 3 good british ships which Unicorn and Nelson (if you raise her, would be)

Actually... i forgot to point out Richy. Richy likes burning ships and if you have french ships? She makes them stronger but in isolation... i think Richy is still good? Though, a bit more niche with her anti light role

Oh yeah, Nagato would is for end game content but hey, take your time @elfin hollow

[elfin hollow]

Thats all the ships I have

[pulsar hornet]

I see 200 gems/10 dock spaces

[elfin hollow]

(I am focusing on bb)

[elfin hollow]

Nvm

[pulsar hornet]

Nagato is funny with JP CVs.

[elfin hollow]

Oh really? But Ngl i like brunhilde

[pulsar hornet]

Oh brunhilde is fun as well. She might have the least amount of requirements to make her strong cause you only need an HE gun (which most often is what you will slap on her) or another Iron Blood BB

I have all the BBs :V... i'm running out of good ones to raise

[elfin hollow]

I have fdg so i am good

Yep fdg will do

[eternal moth]

Is FdG dev30?

[pulsar hornet]

It's a damn shame that Iron Blood doesn't have a healer

[pulsar hornet]

I think they said in 2 days?

[elfin hollow]

I have 21 dev

If i get lucky then yes is two days

[pulsar hornet]

Wait, you're doing the free coining yes?

[eternal moth]

Then use Brunhilde; FdG is only better at dev30, and getting FdG to dev30 in 2 days isn't happening

/devbp

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460648604974055424/885529968455598170/unknown.png

[eternal moth]

As you can see, you aren't even halfway to finishing her development if she's at 20

[elfin hollow]

Does a 410mm work

[elfin hollow]

Yeah well if i spend coins then yes

[eternal moth]

You realize that's something like 1 million coins right?

[pulsar hornet]

This?

[red stirrup]

need help getting sakura research points. currently running research for Izumo. Asides from Taihou and Tosa, who would be my third for main fleet?

[elfin hollow]

Yes

[elfin hollow]

Well no because you get 2 for free

[forest palm]

Kaga BB, Amagi, Ise, Hyuga, Fuso, Yamashiro, Hiyou, and Shouho all have good tech, if anything take Hiryuu, Shouho, or Amagi

[red stirrup]

ty

[pulsar hornet]

A bit of a side note but Hyuuga hits hard for quite a low rarity ship

[eternal moth]

That's 1 million coins PER DAY to get from dev21 to dev30 on a DR ship in 2 days

[elfin hollow]

Yes that or sum else?

[elfin hollow]

Im not dev 21 i need 21 cards or sum else idk whats it call

Im at dev 29

[eternal moth]

That's a lot different from being dev 21. Ok, that's fair then

[pulsar hornet]

Trying to make a universal/beginner friendly fleet that would so basic noobs cant go wrong with it.

Is this good for suggestions? Thought of using Enty and Nelson but those needs abit more coins so went with these adorable nuggets

[eternal moth]

That's the typical beginner fleet, yes

Ranger you can replace with pretty much anyone else; I'd replace her with Enterprise, since she's fairly easy to get.

[pulsar hornet]

Can't think of anything to replace Helana with strangely enough. I mean, Leanders is okish? Actually... would Phoenix be better?

[eternal moth]

Nah, I'd just stick with Portland/Helena/starter

You're going to want to level Helena anyways

[silver lintel]

Yea its tied to the rookie mission

[eternal moth]

Helena isn't part of the beginner mission, but she's used enough that it's worth leveling her from the start. She's also a fairly solid ship on her own

[pulsar hornet]

Super Basic Fleet

Like everything about this would teach noobs how to make a fleet

[eternal moth]

We do already have this BTW https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

And https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/early_ship_recommendations

[pulsar hornet]

Oh yeah, those. Forgor :V

[elfin hollow]

@pulsar hornet yea is that good for brunhilde

[pulsar hornet]

Ok, to keep things back on thread... I did all the BBs and BC and are left with these nuggets. Which one do I raise first cause I ran out

[eternal moth]

https://retropaint.github.io/azur-lane-fleet-tech-tracker/ I'd use this, as it's a lot easier to see what stats they give at 20

[elfin hollow]

Minor nation ships like northern parliment and Italian ships

[pulsar hornet]

Ehhhh depends on who you're facing. Most of the time, I'd just do the American 406 and call it a day. The 410 is a niche AP gun and even then the french Ap gun is better

[eternal moth]

Personally, I'd give Brunhilde the purple one, or a twin 410 (the Japanese purple)

[pulsar hornet]

I already did all the Rld ships. Should I move on to hit?

[eternal moth]

Hit's not a bad stat, as there aren't that many. Otherwise just do FP

[elfin hollow]

Ehh i dont have enough for the french ap gun

[pulsar hornet]

Wait, I apparently did all the Hit ships as well. So FP ships it is then

[elfin hollow]

Plus there a second stage and it seems pricy for me 😭

[pulsar hornet]

Just use the American 406. Trust me, even in late game, I have dozens of them

You can never go wrong

[vale spindle]

No the triple 406mm/50 is all you need

if you have the triple 380 mle from pr6 that's also fine

Or soyuz gun too any of those 3 works for AP gun options

[pulsar hornet]

Pray to the 406. Live by the 406. Die with 406

[crisp wadi]

How many triple 406mm/50 is needed? I just got my second gun

[pulsar hornet]

If you can stomach moving them around... a max of 6 guns for 2 fleets worth of BB

If you're lazy like me, there is never enough

[hard mesa]

prob 3 should be enough

[pulsar hornet]

What does the Soyuz gun look like again?

[crisp wadi]

Nah, me too lazy, I'll get 1 more and I'm done

[elfin hollow]

Question. How much weeks does it tske averagely for a dr ship

[crisp wadi]

Triple 406mm (MK-1)

[forest palm]

That's just gross...and I opt for a 457

[crisp wadi]

I already ask this, and people said it takes 2-3 months. As in to Dr lvl 30

[eternal moth]

2 months if you're doing 10 per day, a little longer if you're only doing 7

[vale spindle]

like 3

[elfin hollow]

My dumb ass accidentally bought oil with gems

Smh

[pulsar hornet]

They dont refund

[vale spindle]

thats how they get you unfortunately

[elfin hollow]

Ik i meant to press cancel

[vale spindle]

yep they swap the buttons to scam you

thats why i always click outside the menu first

[crisp wadi]

I assume you mean 10 per day with coin right? I don't think you can get blueprint 10 per day. Cmiiw

[pulsar hornet]

Wait, the buttons are swapped?

[eternal moth]

Correct

[vale spindle]

In some menus yes

[elfin hollow]

Anyways im almost finished researching agir one percent more

[vale spindle]

they swap the cancel and confirm in some menus to catch unsuspecting players

[crisp wadi]

Sadly pr6 still can't use coins

[elfin hollow]

This?

[eternal moth]

Oh, yeah, those are a little tougher.

[vale spindle]

Thats why if you want to invest in pr6 ships you research focus set to season 6

So you coin 1-4 and research 5-6

[whole crypt]

coin enhancing is a catchup mechanic, you can work on those series' ships while researching newer series

[elfin hollow]

Which ship should I put it on

[crisp wadi]

Soyuz?

[elfin hollow]

Sovietsky brunhilde FDG vanguard

[elfin hollow]

She aint mlb yet

The rest are

[frank pulsar]

on any ship with no gun restrictions when you need ap

[elfin hollow]

Ok i put it on fdg

[frank pulsar]

vanguard can utilise it pretty well since shes too fast in a triple bb setup

[whole crypt]

not a serious issue if your reload tech isn't high yet, the main issue is outrunning Helena

she should be shooting first among your BBs anyway

[crisp wadi]

Is there any guide about tech? I'm still confused

[whole crypt]

nothing you need to worry about before you're done leveling good ships first

[frank pulsar]

it's just something you do on the side if youre trying to unlock research ships or have nothing better to raise

[elfin hollow]

Vanguard it is ig

[crisp wadi]

No, I mean the bonus stats from tech. Last time I checked it's already max out

[frank pulsar]

theres a wiki page with lists of ships that give certain types of tech
usually for backline its rld >= hit > fp/avi

[whole crypt]

the menu is for you to adjust how much tech to apply

but you can only add up to as much as you have unlocked

[frank pulsar]

i kinda doubt that, the tech screen only shows you what you currently have and not the absolute max amount you can have

[crisp wadi]

Yeah, that's why I'm confused

[elfin hollow]

I FINALLY HAVE AGÏR

[pulsar hornet]

Dev level?

[elfin hollow]

I have 358 cards for her

[frank pulsar]

its mostly to let you adjust the additional stats you already got from the ships so far
for example, the menu displays 14/14 cv rld. that means you can adjust that 14 cv rld, but the actual max amount you can get in game afaik is like 40

[vale spindle]

Good enough to start with

you need 513 to max though

[elfin hollow]

Since i recently got Agir what the next ship i should research (i have anchorage and fdg too)

[whole crypt]

whichever has more prints

[frank pulsar]

unlock the rest of pr4, except marco polo

[elfin hollow]

Ig thats haku

Haku has 300 prints

The other 103

[frank pulsar]

its better to unlock the pr ships first before the dr since they're coinable but the dr arent

[whole crypt]

ultimately you'll develop all of them, just pick ones with more prints so you can finish them faster
besides that maybe pick a ship that can be enhanced with coins if you're not enhancing anything with daily free prints

[elfin hollow]

So AvP

[whole crypt]

P

are you enhancing any other ship daily with the free/discounted prints?

[elfin hollow]

Da

[elfin hollow]

Nope

[frank pulsar]

it's just 3k coin anyway

[elfin hollow]

Oh wait yea anchorage

[whole crypt]

then yeh I guess AvP or just any other ship that can be enhanced by coin

[elfin hollow]

She has 37 prints left before the discount expires

[crisp wadi]

Do Azuma still good? I want to raise her but arld got Guam, anchorage, and agir

[whole crypt]

the discount doesn't expire, you mean you're down to 37 before she's complete

[whole crypt]

not a priority, but if you want a ship to spend daily DR prints on

[frank pulsar]

shes still worth imho since shes coinable and you dont have 4 tanks yet

[elfin hollow]

Eh so AvP then Haku?

[frank pulsar]

youll prob replace her with brest eventually though

[crisp wadi]

Yeah, that's what I think coz I just finished FdG

[elfin hollow]

Alr then

[crisp wadi]

There's mlb kron, but it seems she never used

[frank pulsar]

if your kron is already mlb just use her and ignore azuma then

[elfin hollow]

Oof this is painful i hardly have any ironblood main ships any suggestions?

[whole crypt]

you won't usually use more than 2 tanks in event/campaign, only maybe for OS

[whole crypt]

just use whatever you have, unless you don't have 3 ships

[crisp wadi]

Maybe I'll coins her because she's the only one who needs coined right now

[elfin hollow]

I have fdg brünhilde and graf

[whole crypt]

or even just 2 ships + Unicorn if you need heal

[frank pulsar]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology
read this

[elfin hollow]

No no no I know how to get points I need ships thou

[whole crypt]

like don't worry about which ships you're using for reserach, at most you'd maybe want to prioritize ships that aren't max

[frank pulsar]

just use any 3 iron blood ship thats preferably not maxed yet

[whole crypt]

we use trash ships all the time if there's no other ships to pick

[frank pulsar]

no point in coining azuma if you already have 4 tanks

[whole crypt]

I mean if you're already done with Drake and FdG sinking free prints into Azuma is fine, provided already developed

[crisp wadi]

I got 500k ish coins. It better than sitting there

[frank pulsar]

if you really wanna coin smth go farm like champagne or smth for the tech

[elfin hollow]

Alr time to find some iron blood mains wish me luck (they’re the lesser likely ones i get )

[whole crypt]

DR coin and PR coin discounts are separate anyway

you can still do 2 free everyday for DR after doing discounted PR

[crisp wadi]

Yeah I usually spend around 10k coins per day. 10 times pr and dr

[frank pulsar]

theres other coin sink in the game anyway like cats

[elfin hollow]

Wait which war archieve i can grind on to get iron blood mains

[whole crypt]

chessboard, but you can just stick with those you already have if not yet max

[crisp wadi]

Div. Chessboard?

[frank pulsar]

just read this theres a list of iron blood ships thats easily obtainable

[elfin hollow]

The ships are nearing to max

[whole crypt]

isn't gneisenau or scharnhorst in one of the shops

[elfin hollow]

Expect graf

[crisp wadi]

Guild shop iirc

[elfin hollow]

On chessboard?

Alr imma check.

[whole crypt]

Scharnhorst in core shop

[elfin hollow]

Yeah she unfortunately is

[whole crypt]

how is that unfortunate

[elfin hollow]

And i recently spend the core data on the white ap shell

[whole crypt]

well then just farm chessboard

[elfin hollow]

Alr

Which part she is in?

[whole crypt]

it's on the fleet tech guide

[wind hazel]

tl;dr

Farm D4

[crisp wadi]

D4

[steep merlin]

Are there any good μ ships?

[whole crypt]

generally no

[crisp wadi]

Do muse count to faction tech?

[whole crypt]

they contribute for research XP but don't have tech

[steep merlin]

If so wich ones?

[wind hazel]

[keen sable]

Musty is 4th best support

[noble wyvern]

should i keep using a full team at chapter 4-4 rn? (its just the oil kinda expensive like 50+ per battle )

[wind hazel]

you should, yes

[crimson glacier]

muses are a mistake

[whole crypt]

I wouldn't exactly say Illustrious Muse is a "good ship" based on 1 role in ch15 specifically

[crisp wadi]

I don't think you can 1-1 , so just stick to fill team

[noble wyvern]

hm ok then

[wind hazel]

even if you can 1:1 you still should use full 3:3

[steep merlin]

Musty?

[keen sable]

so essex is a bad ship? because akagu is same tier

[wind hazel]

Illustrious Muse

[crimson glacier]

well do you see ppl use essex in hard content

[steep merlin]

Oh okay got it

[elfin hollow]

Why is marco polo bad?

[rapid grail]

roon muse has the distinction of being better than her base pr version
lusty muse is pretty good in w15 as part of the support fleet lineup and discount antilight cv

akagi muse is a bit better than base ver, meh nowadays but usable
gascogne muse is alright i guess, can use her to get xp for base version
that's about it, the other muses are middling

[wind hazel]

she's not bad

[crimson glacier]

she aint bad

roon muse is just awful value

[rapid grail]

she's good, just that there's other ships simply better than her nowadays

[whole crypt]

Akagi Muse is also T1 tagged, Essex is T1 untagged, so overall Akagi Muse is a worse ship than Essex if you want to base it on tier list

[crimson glacier]

and normal roon gives tech so she is much more useful than her muse

[wind hazel]

conclusion: Muse bad

[steep merlin]

Yeah im trying to get roon for friederich

[rapid grail]

he asked which muses are good, or at least usable in current AL. and that's about it

[whole crypt]

the answer is don't bother getting/investing in them

[steep merlin]

[rapid grail]

muses are underwhelming for the investment

[whole crypt]

exactly

[elfin hollow]

They need a revival or sum change ngl

[whole crypt]

a lot of old ships and skills "need a revival" but odds are it's not happening

[rapid grail]

That entirely depends on the muse ships coming out in next event

[elfin hollow]

Ok I got the battle cruiser any other iron blood main I can look for?

[whole crypt]

I don't see how the new muse ships will fix old muse ships being bad
at best the new muse will be usable themselves but odds are they won't help the old ones

[whole crypt]

both of them?

[elfin hollow]

Just one of them

[keen sable]

Nagatu

[crisp wadi]

Get both

[elfin hollow]

Aint one of them on core data?

[whole crypt]

well did you get the one that's not in shop

[crisp wadi]

You sure wanna spend 1200 core data? If so then go on

[whole crypt]

and if you get the drop you can also save the cores for other stuff

[keen sable]

why are you even looking? you have brun, fdg, and whoever you used for fdg. what's trash for?

[whole crypt]

you also don't need to wait for the cores before you start grinding, you're after using the ships for XP anyway

he wants ships to use for AvP XP but besides Graf Zeppelin the others are almost max

[keen sable]

a 108 fdg is not almost max

[whole crypt]

I didn't see him mention level but yeh 108 is a long way to go

[mellow cape]

Mm need some meowofficer help. When is it a good time to fuse your meowofficers to raise the skill? Only when they can get that meowofficers to lvl 30?

[whole crypt]

when you have one with good base talents to roll off

[keen sable]

considering it's impossible to skill a cat after L30, before L30...

[wind hazel]

wot

[mellow cape]

Nooo sorry, I think I wrote the question wrong.

Err when do I / who do I choose to focus on for talents and skills? I lvl'ed a bunch of cats to lvl 20 and kinda just left them there as fodder for the longest time now

[whole crypt]

you can't feed a lv30 cat

[mellow cape]

Like I have a general idea of who

[whole crypt]

I haven't tried whether you can feed dupes if skill not maxed but a max skill lv30 definitely cannot be fed

[keen sable]

I always feed dupes to unskilled cats I want to keep

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGuide

[wind hazel]

you can still feed unmaxed one

[keen sable]

gold dupes are really rare in the grand scheme of things. You're not going to get a L30 cat just from gold dupes

[wind hazel]

but yes it has to be same uh... what do you call that

skill

[keen sable]

good to know

[whole crypt]

in the grand scheme of things you're more likely to still be rolling for "good starting talents" by the time you have more than enough dupes

[echo vector]

How to beat 15-4 lethal difficulty ? Use fleet one until first time boss appear, switch to fleet two to beat boss and then fleet two beat mobs until boss reappear and switch back to fleet one to beat boss ?

[whole crypt]

boss fleet for first and third boss spawn, mob fleet for everything else

[crimson glacier]

boss fleet only does bosses 1 and 3

[lone wolf]

Is this bugged? I dont get how to get rid of the excalmation point or go to part 2/7

[crimson glacier]

press it

[mellow cape]

Click the left side

[wind hazel]

[lone wolf]

Oh. Thks

[echo vector]

Yea, i was also confused the first time that banner appears

[mellow cape]

Typically how many meowofficers do people focus on? One for each type of ship? Or just whatever they want/need?

[kind slate]

outside of the sorting settings, what determines the order in dock?
e.g. sorting via level: and lvl 125 guam is before 125 zwei

[hard mesa]

rarity, then faction

[kind slate]

ohh right. thnx got it now

[plain saffron]

level > rarity > their IDs

1st few digits of ID is faction so that's why it looks like it's ordered by factions

something like faction, hulltype, class, number

[whole crypt]

you could also argue the IDs are ordered in such a manner so that the sort order can be arranged as such

[plain saffron]

could be, also it looks more ordered(like for data purpose not ingame) when all hulltype and class sits next to each other

[eternal basalt]

They are not sorted by faction, it's mostly by event https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Ships

[plain saffron]

game doesn't use that ID

[wind hazel]

you're wrong

[echo vector]

Personally i keep 2 for each type SSR meowficer and 1 for each type SR meowficer.

[plain saffron]

like saratoga id is 10703

[eternal basalt]

Oh, that ID

[plain saffron]

it's in source if you edit wiki yeah that one. GroupID

also when wiki gonna use actual id instead of collab001

[weary void]

Need fleet formation advise (i just put random shipfus and hope it works)

[plain saffron]

is this your only fleet

[atomic abyss]

[weary void]

I have these

[weary void]

Well i have few level ups but thats what i mostly use in events and story

[atomic abyss]

i think

[plain saffron]

remove URs because not limit break = 🚮

[atomic abyss]

a good start would be to drop nearly all those URs yes

[whole crypt]

0LB Guam bad
Guichen no MLB bad
Guam should be tank bad
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleetbuilding

[plain saffron]

if it's mob fleet or your only fleet. put in unicorn

[weary void]

I'm new getting pink bullins kinna hard

[atomic abyss]

it's 0lb nj and soyuz too

so all of them go

[wind hazel]

where did your rainbow bulin go to?

surely you have enough to at least limit break Soyuz or something

[weary void]

Well that to be said im like on chapter 4 in story

[whole crypt]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/early_ship_recommendations

[wind hazel]

are you really inactive or something

[weary void]

Hmm i won't call myself newbie but my acc is kinna erm low level

[whole crypt]

or maybe bought the lv70 pack and squandered the XP packs

[weary void]

[whole crypt]

ch4 you could probably just kill everything with Unicorn + Attilio

[wind hazel]

even the lv100 laffey alone would carry a few chapters

[weary void]

[atomic abyss]

anyways

the problem is largely non existent fleet building and lack of limit breaks for the URs

pretty much throwing all high rarity stuff together

limit breaks are the key to his game

[elfin hollow]

Royal bb only ?

[atomic abyss]

and ships are at like, less than 50% of their potential without them

[crimson glacier]

thats why basically no one uses that shell

[elfin hollow]

I see

About it?

[blissful hamlet]

who do more damage kronk or brest?

[crimson glacier]

the diffrence is meaningless

[atomic abyss]

anyways since you're only at chap 4, push every rainbow burin you have into soyuz first, drop NJ for unicorn, enterprise stays
laffey stays, raise helena and portland

you can prob push all the way to w9 with underlevelled helena and portland, assuming unicorn is in the back

[blissful hamlet]

oh well

[atomic abyss]

pairs with the white shell for the standard BB aux items

[crimson glacier]

black and white shells are good

[elfin hollow]

Type 1?

[crimson glacier]

is that the purple rarity one or something

[whole crypt]

gold

[atomic abyss]

purple is type 95 iirc?

[whole crypt]

purple is 91

95 is oxytorp

[crimson glacier]

i see, never seen anyone call it that before

[warm flax]

Isn't Kronk the highest dps cb

[whole crypt]

because white shell and oxygorp are not ambiguous if you don't know the gear name

[crimson glacier]

cb and dps is just pointless

[whole crypt]

you're generally not picking between CBs based on DPS and the difference isn't that big anyway

[blissful hamlet]

what make guam gun have higher priority +13 than 457

[crimson glacier]

nothing

[whole crypt]

how is that higher priority

[elfin hollow]

Type 95?

[crimson glacier]

well its serenity you are talking to

[blissful hamlet]

more left than 457

[whole crypt]

they're different gun classes, left to right is not difference of priority

[blissful hamlet]

[atomic abyss]

[elfin hollow]

I see ty I know

[whole crypt]

sink penalty is how much morale again?

[crimson glacier]

10

[sinful elk]

How do i get or farm these effectively?

[atomic abyss]

basically, only story hard mode

else 3* rewards for clearing story hard mode

[jaunty vault]

are those DD BPs

x-1 hard mode for DD retrofit BPs
ch3+

[icy mountain]

can you get player exp with opsi?

[steady beacon]

You can

[vale spindle]

yes!

[icy mountain]

nice guess i wont need to farm maps

stages rather

[crimson glacier]

was opsi before oil cap

[south sequoia]

Ye

Oil cap wasnt added until late sept 2021

[crimson glacier]

yeah i remember getting a ton of exp from it on release

[sinful elk]

The chances are just way too low 💀

[whole crypt]

it just takes time

[tawdry topaz]

harder stages have higher chance to drop

[south sequoia]

Take your time

[tawdry topaz]

you can also buy them in guild shop iirc

[whole crypt]

we don't have data taht supports that

[tawdry topaz]

its called faith

[whole crypt]

guild shop has them occasionally
medal shop has them too but it's really expensive on medals

[inland shoal]

Wym, normal has no chance, hard has a chance

[steady beacon]

There are also a couple of occasional/one-off tasks that can get you retro prints (events, secretary quests)
But in terms of consistent supply, you just have to do the hard mode daily and be patient
After some time, you'll have too many

[amber wharf]

Hey what best ship for PvP?

Btw im in lil enty

[tawdry sluice]

What's a good way to get rare item tokens? Just running c5s?

[plain saffron]

#pvp will have the answer. check pins

[amber wharf]

Oh ok

Thanks

[whole crypt]

strongholds and abyssals

[tawdry sluice]

You can only get those from coordinates, right?

[frank pulsar]

strongholds and port shop are your two biggest sources for purple token

after that its prob abyssals, hidden zones

[tawdry sluice]

Alright thanks for the info

[steady beacon]

Now in possession of concrete data, I categorically dispute this assertion: https://streamable.com/f769ys

[slender jackal]

Few days ago I asked about how to get designs in operation siren
You said I need to wait for monthly reset
Weirdly enough they shown up

[gilded cargo]

Hi if i want to level up char for tech points, is therr any tips and tricks to level up char to 120 fast

[vale spindle]

its random on your first month of shops
but after the monthly reset, the shops change to guarantee every item instead of randomly cycling

[slender jackal]

Oh that is good to know but last time people said I cannot get it

[gilded cargo]

I think this shop reset every 3days tho

[slender jackal]

Put into dorm + operations or simply farm and farm highest level

[vale spindle]

well if this is your first month of opsi its hard to get enough currency to buy everything you want anyways

[vale spindle]

dorm / exp packs / use them in battle

[slender jackal]

I had opsi for long time but I didn't play it cus I didn't understand them

[gilded cargo]

Which domain gives the post exp

[slender jackal]

[vale spindle]

chapter 12 cause if you go higher most ships die

[slender jackal]

Highest you can beat so I would guess 10-12?

[gilded cargo]

Yes

[vale spindle]

chapter 11 is significantly better than all stages below it, and chapter 9 is also significantly better than all stages below it

[hard mesa]

the shops only apply for first time of the month doing opsi?

[vale spindle]

yes cause devs scuffed up the code

on subsequent months the shops guarantee items instead of randomly cycling so its easier to get what you want

[slender jackal]

Either way I am happy! One step closer to change my Atago into goddess of war!

[gilded cargo]

Is pu5ting 2 lvl 125 beside lvl 80 good idea for floor 12

[vale spindle]

that might not be necessary
you can just run a full fleet of 5 other lvl 100+ max limit break characters, and as long as the level 80 is also max limit break they should be fine

[blissful hamlet]

should I get a 5th plygun or 3rd hinden gun?

[gilded cargo]

Oh time to opsci them to lvl 100

[vale spindle]

opsi doesn't give much exp

[slender jackal]

Or just exp boost I always have too much of those

Imma be honest btw guys
As much as I use it I dislike auto-clear

[vale spindle]

probably the hinden gun for now, then after that you can just go all in on ply gun

[gilded cargo]

How yall grtting so many exp boost

[vale spindle]

well thats your personal preference, but you can't assume that for everyone

[gilded cargo]

Like how many csn u get in an hour

[slender jackal]

I know I just wanted to add that

[vale spindle]

when you have too much time on your hands and level basically everyone to high level

there is a finite number of exp packs you can get in a day since lecture hall has a limit per hour

[slender jackal]

In days when I farmed A LOT to get Sovtsky Sojuz I got like 50 a day (I think)

[blissful hamlet]

when was drake gun added on gear lab? earlier this year?

[vale spindle]

you get 52/day from lecture hall, then 50/week from dailies, and 20/week from the free weekly pack

[gilded cargo]

So it is like the oil and money farm? Or need morehigh level char to genrrate faster

[vale spindle]

check your lecture hall

[gilded cargo]

Max?

[vale spindle]

if your lecture hall has the proficiency then its already converting at its maximum rate

[gilded cargo]

Shag

[vale spindle]

this is the maximum amount

[slender jackal]

And I either way reach limit often

[vale spindle]

if you grind enough you should reach the limit yes, it helps if your lecture hall is leveled too

[slender jackal]

Naturally as much as I don't want to force anyone to think this way... Don't you feel atleast a bit weird about auto-farm?

[vale spindle]

not especially

auto is just easy; i am currently auto battling while typing on this channel helping others

and ive done that hundreds of times just in the past year alone

[gilded cargo]

How much is 435 packs is

Can i get lvl 1 to lvl 80

[vale spindle]

yes but you need limit breaks to go past level 70

[gilded cargo]

Oh ye i have many purple

[slender jackal]

I see, I mean I also use it but it feel weird... Kinda fake or something like those afk games

[vale spindle]

up to you i don't give a shit as long as you don't just say to manual when someone asks for help

[gilded cargo]

Auto is kinds trou lesome for me cuz my dock is low cap

[vale spindle]

thats still an issue on manual too

[slender jackal]

Anyway time to farm points to get more designs for Atago

[vale spindle]

if anything if you clear faster on manual then it would become more of a problem

[slender jackal]

Of course I wouldn't it is just my personal thought

[vale spindle]

this is gameplay help not personal blogging

[inland shoal]

[slender jackal]

Got it sorry I tend to run my mouth I am off

[atomic abyss]

we shd make #gameplay-blog

[vale spindle]

all good dw

[gilded cargo]

Is 11-4 good to farm

[atomic abyss]

12-1 is much better

[vale spindle]

yea thats fine
12-1 would be better though

[gilded cargo]

Oh why tho

[vale spindle]

drop variety is expanded

[atomic abyss]

also easier map

[inland shoal]

Chance to drop cog chips, generally easier

[gilded cargo]

Ok but 12-1 is betterthan 12-4?

[atomic abyss]

no

12-4 is better ofc, but higher level so you need a weee bit more levels

[vale spindle]

they are basically the same

[gilded cargo]

Heard they say if wantedto farm exp go 12-2

[atomic abyss]

it's always been 12-4

[vale spindle]

any stage in world 12 is basically the same thing

[atomic abyss]

at least then you can get choukai for collection

[vale spindle]

you get slightly more exp efficient on 12-1 but slightly more coin efficient on 12-4, and anything in the middle is in the middle of this

[inland shoal]

Depends, 12-1 is a bit easier and you can cope for cheaper cost = more cogs/oil, but 12-4 is more coins (and ig more medals thx to Choukai)

[gilded cargo]

11-4 for a ti air

[vale spindle]

12-1 is not much harder than 11-4 anyways

[gilded cargo]

Haha im not lvl 80 yet

[inland shoal]

It's harder on AA it's much easier on pretty much anything else

[late flame]

nothing that cant be solved by adding cv

[gilded cargo]

Is shoukaku a bett3r healer than unicorn

[late flame]

no lol

[vale spindle]

then do any stage in chapter 11

[gilded cargo]

Ok

The grind has started bois

[atomic abyss]

lads

shoukaku isn't even a healer

[inland shoal]

Idk if anyone cares about this thing, but whatever, these are the pull probs for next event, expected rolls to pull Formidable µ, Noshiro µ, Kongou µ and Boise µ: 94.34

[whole crypt]

I think he meant Shouhou but whatever

[inland shoal]

Assuming the usual 2.5%, 2%, 0.5%

[atomic abyss]

im assuming you mean shouhou
and no

[late flame]

i automatically read shouhou yeah kek

[gilded cargo]

[atomic abyss]

shoukaku is not a healer

[inland shoal]

You already said that

[gilded cargo]

Grind for that pr4 us ship

[plain saffron]

so i need infinity amount of cubes to get them all

[late flame]

nah just skip banner ez

[whole crypt]

only shop ships and URs are guaranteed if you don't have infinite cubes

and reserach I guess

[gilded cargo]

My prinz eugen is free so not complaning

[steady beacon]

Ngl, knowing that the expected value of a 2 SR/2 E "standard" banner is 94.34 makes me feel a lot better about my worse luck in non-UR events...

[atomic abyss]

uh

sir this isn't nikke discord

[inland shoal]

Wrong server buddy

[atomic abyss]

[inland shoal]

Also no not really

[steep merlin]

OOOP

[atomic abyss]

i know enty and rapi have the same VAs but...

[steep merlin]

Sorryyyy

[atomic abyss]

[steep merlin]

[gilded cargo]

Btw ner jersey or shinano

[atomic abyss]

honestly, depends
what other UR/DRs do you have?

[hard mesa]

[gilded cargo]

What is dr

[atomic abyss]

rainbow rarity research ship

like fdg

[gilded cargo]

Ah no

Pure ur only vanguard

[atomic abyss]

so you missed soyuz right?

[gilded cargo]

Soyuz?

[atomic abyss]

soyuz was from March's major event
also a UR
UR BB

[inland shoal]

Does this mean that Vanguard is your only UR or that you only have frontline URs?

[gilded cargo]

Uhye

[atomic abyss]

only kron i suppose

[gilded cargo]

My only ur

[atomic abyss]

at that rate, most likely NJ

but well, work on getting fdg from research first

[gilded cargo]

Hehe need 300 more pointsfor her

[atomic abyss]

because you're not likely to have the rainbow bulins to mlb a UR anyways

[gilded cargo]

I do

[atomic abyss]

i'd say NJ then, assuming you're very close to pity

[forest jasper]

15-4 1st boss is boss fleet, 2nd is mob fleet then final is boss fleet again right?

[atomic abyss]

otherwise, come back and ask when you have hit pity

[atomic abyss]

yes

[inland shoal]

I've seen ppl do it the other way round too but yeah

[atomic abyss]

thorin you agree with my suggestion?

[inland shoal]

Yeah ig

[jaunty vault]

what suggestion

[inland shoal]

To get NJ > Shinano with that selection of URs I suppose

[atomic abyss]

NJ over Nano as first pity UR if no other UR/DR in dock

besides kron

[jaunty vault]

id go nano

[inland shoal]

I still didn't understand if he has Vanny or not tho, answered that in a strange way

[main latch]

which one better for Friedrich carl?

[atomic abyss]

neither tbh

[inland shoal]

I thought he meant yes in which case I'd go NJ

[atomic abyss]

gold quint mags are horrendous
and the 610 quad is basically for manual torp nukers

[main latch]

My only options basically.. what would you say is good for her

[inland shoal]

Left ones are kinda trash thx to being only T2, right ones are more for manual only

[atomic abyss]

give your quad 610 to a starter DD

[jaunty vault]

if he has vanguard then id recommend shinano even more

then I again, i suppose it doesn't really matter

[atomic abyss]

do you mean HMS Vanguard or Agir/Kron lol

[hard mesa]

triple mag or purple normal quad

[wind hazel]

i think he only has HMS Vanguard as his only gacha UR

[atomic abyss]

carl's torps are non existent, she can take whatever torp you have left lol

[oblique thunder]

If I don't have a UR Sakura plane to activate hakuryu support skill should I use a gold one? And if yes which?

[jaunty vault]

give her the quad610 if those two arebyour only options

[sweet merlin]

Do muse ships still retain their factions

[inland shoal]

Yes

[jaunty vault]

saiun/ryuusei

[atomic abyss]

or reppus if you have them for some ungodly reason

[main latch]

what about this one

[inland shoal]

Reppuus are never bis tho

[atomic abyss]

thats not my point

[oblique thunder]

Thanks

[jaunty vault]

that works interchangeably with quad610 i suppose

[inland shoal]

Those are good, think about equal to 610

[hard mesa]

thats fine torp

[atomic abyss]

then again, there are always tenzans for TBs

[atomic abyss]

better than quad 610 for auto usually

wider spread and faster reload

[jaunty vault]

reppus are fine if youre ultra poor

but if youre ultra poor then you dont have haku at a usable level

[atomic abyss]

exactly

[sweet merlin]

Do muse ships still retain their factions

[atomic abyss]

you asked that already

answer was yes

they instead have no fleet tech bonuses

[sweet merlin]

Bummer

Are all muse ships mid

[atomic abyss]

akagi muse is pretty good as far as SR CVs go

roon muse is a better roon
but a lot of things are better than roon now so

yes would be the answer for most muse ships so far

[crimson glacier]

the only muse ship that i can see being slightly useful is lusty muse

and thats just coz you can slot her in w15 support fleet and dont even need to level her skills

[atomic abyss]

did she get the same loadout as regular lusty?

[uneven cave]

Idk about the third slot, but definitely double fighters

Yeah, 3/3/2 fighter fighter torps

[steady beacon]

Both have FFT, but efficiencies differ, 135/135/110 and 125/125/135

[plain saffron]

just like event ships, it's gonna be some good some bad

[gilded cargo]

Hms vanguard

[atomic abyss]

muse's efficiencies feel dumb

ah
then shinano then

my bad

[sweet merlin]

Time to gamble on prinz eungen muse

[ivory linden]

Luckily she is a map drop

[sweet merlin]

Campaign or event

[ivory linden]

Event

[plain saffron]

she's from event so event

[noble wyvern]

what should i do with my special core? or just think about it later

[plain saffron]

why would event ship drop in main campaign

[plain saffron]

UR bulins, buy when needed

[noble wyvern]

for kron? or someone else

[ivory linden]

I'd say wait it out till the new UR drops in a month or so. Don't spend any right now

[plain saffron]

for anyone

[noble wyvern]

how much is dorm 2nd floor?

[jaunty vault]

500gems

[sweet merlin]

When is the even

[hard mesa]

next week

[noble wyvern]

oh ok,do you have a tip on how to get 500 decor coin? (just want to buy the 2nd floor but it wont let me bc i didnt expand it enought )

and also what to do with 400 gems to spare?

[plain saffron]

do commissions. if not sure, keep the gems

[eternal basalt]

How much is your cat den evolved. That's a good spot for tokens

[small fern]

whats the best war archive-

[sweet merlin]

Chess

[coarse coral]

i thought second floor was with crystals not decor coins?

[noble wyvern]

well i just unlocked the cat den yesterday

[worldly pewter]

needs a lot of them

check frequently the dorm for occasional coins too

[lament hazel]

I saw the JP Stream team using this Soyuz Squad (Gear Unknown)

Line up based alone, how good is this?

Soyuz 49
Hwah Jah 90
Taihou 73
Laffey 99
Kuybyshev 86
Hermione 67

[inland shoal]

Yes, but as he said he needs to expand first which costs decors

[eternal basalt]

Hwah Jah

[atomic abyss]

...quite bad tbh

[inland shoal]

4/10

[coarse coral]

forgot about that, also what is your guys dorm lvl i am at 398 at the moment and im not seeing anything els i can buy to make it higher?

[inland shoal]

Also that's Huan Ch'ang

[atomic abyss]

Isn't hwah jah like one of the worst carriers in game

And Hermione is a complete meme

[inland shoal]

Comfort is quite irrelevant after like 200 or sth

[lament hazel]

not my squad, it's the JP Stream team's

[inland shoal]

Long time player have somewhere from 450~500 I think, also depending on whether they spend gems on furnitures

[worldly pewter]

i have 109

[lament hazel]

ouch

[small fern]

okay-

[plain saffron]

well it's for a stream, so not expecting it to be good

[inland shoal]

Except for Hermione it looks like a Soyuz + fleet tech farm tbh rather than a functional fleet

[plain saffron]

since we don't know what he;s doing

[inland shoal]

While Hermione is just part of neither functional fleet nor tech farm

[atomic abyss]

All Hermione has going for her is a good VA...

[inland shoal]

Good skins too

[kind slate]

Is flandre gun good?

[main latch]

if i dont awaken a ship will my exp bottle up ?

[small fern]

i have a question: shinano or nj

[atomic abyss]

Up to 3 mil yes (assuming you mean cog awaken)

[main latch]

Yeah thanks

[inland shoal]

Flandre gun is decent

[atomic abyss]

Depends on what other UR/DRs you have

[inland shoal]

Champy gun sidegrade pretty much

[kind slate]

So I can use flandre gun instead?

[inland shoal]

Yeah

[kind slate]

also is it pointless to give DDs gold rudder?

[inland shoal]

DDs usually want double hp aux ye

[atomic abyss]

For most DDs yes
Since they usually have the evasion but not the HP

[small fern]

i only have kron

[atomic abyss]

Work towards NJ then
But I would advise getting FDG from research first

[inland shoal]

How many UR bulins do you have / can you get anyway?

Probably won't matter between NJ and Shinano tbh

[kind slate]

for w14 mobbing, would zwei, volga, uni be better than zwei, saratoga, uni?

[atomic abyss]

You don't need double healer for w14 so

[kind slate]

got it

[small fern]

none :3

[inland shoal]

Yeah

[atomic abyss]

So any gacha UR you have would be useless

[steady beacon]

Ender, you did W14 without double healer? 👀

[inland shoal]

Yeah then just get either if you already hit pity and wait for cn anni to dump your bulins

[hard mesa]

1 healer should work, especially with zwei

[steady beacon]

Not doubting it can work, just sounds... painful...

[slender jackal]

Um I got another question about operation siren sorry 👉👈
How do I use the map coordinates devices?

[jaunty vault]

ive seen people in here recommend shinano over a second healer

[dawn whale]

Eh...?

[whole crypt]

tap on the coord > follow the button to go to the zone it's for > enter that zone making sure you're going into the right zone type

if you kill fast enough 1 healer is enough, twin healer is either leveling or back in the day when we had less options

[slender jackal]

I think I did that... I secured it and kinda nothing happened.. how should I know I did it correctly?

[whole crypt]

then you entered the wrong zone type

tap on the little 4 square button before entering the zone and pick hidden or abyssal whichever the appropriate coord is

[kind slate]

whats the best way to get gold opsi mats? i need 5 electronics

[whole crypt]

buy from OS port shop
the highest level tech box raid
just keep doing more OS

[slender jackal]

Should it look like this or am I stupid?

[whole crypt]

that's a hidden zone, so that's correct

that's how all hidden/obscured zones should look like when you enter

[jaunty vault]

go to order and request recon
or use lighthouse

[whole crypt]

well you need to find the light house and get to it, recon order is easier

[slender jackal]

oh! Okay so this mode is when the map coordinates worked! Okay I did those few times but didn't know! Thank you so much

[late flame]

or buy logger

[whole crypt]

lighthouse also costs ESD

how much did logger cost again, 1k vouchers?

[late flame]

yup

[jaunty vault]

yep

pretty cheap

[whole crypt]

not cheap if you're a hoarder

[jaunty vault]

for qol

[late flame]

cheap if consistently clear opsi including harbiter
else yeah not cheap lol

[whole crypt]

I clear everything, I still think it's expensive but I'm a hoarder

[jaunty vault]

keeping the 100k+ vouchers just for flex

[late flame]

smh not clearing exchange shop* every month

[whole crypt]

why would you clear exchange shop, adapts is awful value

[late flame]

instantclear harbiter day1 (well actually end of day 1 after sweeping map)

[whole crypt]

even with logger that's only like 150 adapts, I'm happy waiting for later in the month

[bleak mica]

the only thing I don't buy is that 5000-oil thing.

[late flame]

not like there's anything else to buy anyway

[whole crypt]

I refuse to do arb before 203, it's not worth the effort

[late flame]

i find the 5k oil logger useful since i'm lazy

[whole crypt]

if you afk clear OS I guess

[bleak mica]

I'm leveling up all girls to 120 so 5000 oil is painful.

[whole crypt]

it costs you less oil to just recon every zone by hand then buy AP with the oil

[late flame]

its also once a month thingy

yeah i afk run and usually kick harby's arse by end of first day

[hard mesa]

supplied with free 4k oils/week

[bleak mica]

I just clear zones in many days, not within day 1 of the month lol

[whole crypt]

like I said I just don't see the point of rushing arb on day 1 or 2, the rewards are all the same

I usually clear out over the first week or so for zones

[late flame]

gives me leeway to slack for the rest of the month

[whole crypt]

I have no room to slack rest of month, I absolutely fomo and minmax my OS output so...

[slender jackal]

Btw when it comes to reset of operations
Is it like automatically or do I have the choice? And also is like exploration reset as well?

[whole crypt]

exploration goals are perm, you need to progress through multiple months to complete
reset is mandatory and it's done the first time you enter the mode after a month change

[jaunty vault]

opsi doesnt reset until you exit opsi

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren#Reset

[whole crypt]

thus when you first enter the mode

[slender jackal]

I see okay thank you
Operation siren is so confusing I tried to read through all of that when I frost reached it but it is way too much info to chop trough in one sitting so thank you for help

[sinful elk]

Secretary quest?

[jaunty vault]

are you asking whats a secretary quest

[sinful elk]

Kind of

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Category:Ship_Questline_Page

[jaunty vault]

so there's some ships that when you click on them once when theyre set as secretary, they generate series of missions and have you go through a secretary story

[sinful elk]

Oh right.. and Laffey doesn't have one right?

[jaunty vault]

doesnt look like it

[sinful elk]

Alright and uh is this girl worth investing in

[jaunty vault]

not really, no

[whole crypt]

she's worth LBing to help you unlock the aux gear in collection

[atomic abyss]

at most... for the beaver squad tag

[whole crypt]

using not so much

what tech is ausburne again?

[sinful elk]

Well because i have almost no eagle vanguards and am doin saint louis development 😔

What are the good eagle dds beside laffey?

[hard mesa]

eva

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Charles_Ausburne
yeah evasion

[sweet delta]

single digit percent chance?

[steady beacon]

Last I checked, the refutation of an assertion of "zero chance" required only a single concrete counterexample

[atomic abyss]

laffey II, Allen M Sumner, Ingraham

[steady beacon]

In either event, I've run it three times today, 1/3

[atomic abyss]

just use US cruisers for anchorage/sanrui

helena and portland are must haves for new players anyways

heck, might as well get anchorage first

[sweet delta]

I'll write that no other type intercepts. Because some TBs and seaplanes intercept and we don't know when a DB will too

[sinful elk]

I can't develop any ships beside Saint Louis and I barley invest in eagle cruisers 💀

[atomic abyss]

then it's time you did

portland is one of the best things for a new player
you are rewarded for raising and retrofitting her in the beginner missions

helena is a ship that you will use even in end game AL

[sinful elk]

Sound right

[atomic abyss]

so just use the 2 of them with laffey.... and done

also, play the game more
US tech is very easy to get lol
anchorage is the prio for new player

[small fern]

i didnt hit it yet dw

[sinful elk]

Idk i grew attached to kronstadht my fleet can barley function without her

[south sequoia]

Not like newer players could easily pick up the mats and resources for agirs construction

[atomic abyss]

kron is worse than port if she isn;t mlb anyways...

[bleak mica]

will a submarine without the Hull design aux stop firing if a boss moves outside of the sub's shooting range? (supposed that the sub has such thing, idk)

[sinful elk]

Nah is this real

[atomic abyss]

ships that are not mlb just... suck by comparison

unless your kron is already mlb, i would drop her for port

rainbow bulins and a ridiculous amount of gold

[sweet delta]

a submarine with OR without the Hull design aux will stop firing if a boss moves outside of the sub's shooting range