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Usagi's Tier Lists are joke and no one should take them seriously
wait shokaku has buff
there's absolutely 0 reason for Ark to be Tier 0 these days 
just looking at this there's so many issues right off the bat
there really are
ez to get + medium high damage + i suppose not eveyone has imp or avp
also Shokek's buff is pretty minimal that a stronger ship can out perform the buff
when enterprise 100%
I'd rather use Essex over Shokaku tbh
ha no
shoukaku's self damage is quite low
100% proc enty outdoes most things let alone Shoukaku
beaten out by 100% ranger 
good ol phone destroyer
ofc
but when we get enty augment for 100%
70% enty has been competitive against top CVs already
or lets just wait for enty2 XD
not to mention AvP is getting coining soon
not everyone is lucky unlucky momnet occurs
and there's a plethora of solid CVs as is
o true ye
if you're consistently getting no lucky e procs I think the game is trying to tell you something
and those are on offs at best, if it were truly that consistent Enterprise wouldn't still be relevant
we don't know, wait for the datamine
we get tonight?
When?
Should I switch research to PR5?
Or wait until coining?
few hours, cn maint not started yet
stick with PR4 until it's finished, priority doesn't change when PR4 get's coining
am switching after full pr6 30 tech (didnt play for 1month and a half am bit behind
you still want gear BPs and Agir and Haku won't have coining soon
pr5 for quad 152
Tenrai 
wait we get quad 152 for proto?
that's unrelated to PR4 and can come later
my dude, they haven't even finished PR4 yet
when u can coin why not just start for quad 152
they're not hard farming for UR gear prints anytime soon
Hallo, between Guam laffey 2 and UvH which one should a new player mlb first?
because Tenrai isn't in the gear lab and you can only get one from the Prototype Shop
lol i was 48/50 a week ago for my ur ca gun and now 49/50
That's true.
I just won't take face research for the others?
rush the ships normally
ok and?
take them, the faster you finish the sooner you can move on
Got it.
dont need pr4 catchup protocore
UvH assuming they're all 0 LB
why his reply is yellow urs arent
light mode flashbang be like:
because you can turn the ping off when you do a reply
o rly? ive not know
You could but like why
to not be bothersome
not everyone wants to get a ping everytime someone responds
Drake gun in gear lab
yes
So I use my pr4 catchups, and my pr4 general bps?
Thank you~
there's enough from seasons 1-3 for any protocore needs

6k for Tenrai and Quad 152 when that get's added plus some change to rush 3 Champaign guns
man u reminded me of me wasting my proto on blueprints it was misclick
wanted to get blueprints from medal but did it for proto sad story it is
sounds like #al-general
I reiterate #al-general
btw we getting pr5 catchups? right?
will datamine say what material need for new gear lab?
not this patch
300 for pr 150 each for dr
are you salty
it should
still 1500 proto is coming towards me

we know when we getting the datamine?
when it gets posted
gets
Thanks for the help. I had a narrow victory in 15-3 and I found some mistakes in my setup I could improve, hope to get them fixed and carry on soon
any new info on gearlab / research update
wait until the datamine is released
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how long is opsi boss battle? 1:30 ?
should off flag uvh use shelling or barrage gun?
457 is usually preffered against medium and heavy armor, Mk6/Mk7 for light
we know the name of the gear in particular, but not the internals 
Confused on how mirror and dreamwaker events can happen at the same time? How would you choose which event to farm for
that's something only the Devs could answer 
tldr wait for the datamine
the devs decided so
Ah is this the first time this happening
also Mirror Involution will probably be the best War Archive if it keeps the Rudder in D3
you can pick them like any other war archive
not like there's much worth farming for in either
no, I don't consider rudders particularly enticing
I don’t either
what to farm in Mirror and Dreamwaker again?
nothing
same, I still have some rudder unused even lol
drop ship as per usual if you so desire and not much else
are shinano and new jersey gonna be added to banner events?
or just the heavy/special?
no gacha URs in the perma pools will
and still can craft at least another 5 rudders
Thought I’d want to get the triple 406 from mirror
Prob not gonna happen if it’s WA tho ig
since when has gear been made permanent at the same as events are archived
the gear is not from map, it will be not be in map
yeah pretty sadge
map is exactly the same as the og run

Don't they usually put that unique gear somewhere in like core shop or something when they put the event in war archives?
there's no mk7 from WA drop, there's no shinano from WA drop
no, it's usually well after gear is made permanently avulable
¯_(ツ)_/¯
maybe they will in the future copium
the UR torp gets added to gear lab
some goes to shop
it will be permanent eventually
we already have Z-flag Mikasa in core monthly shop (or not monthly idk)
after 5 years
yeah I know
guess its farm gold deadweek 
3rd times the charm
I don't even have New Orleans yet
I wonder how clear mode is going to work for 15-3 and 4
Since you've got that multiple bossfight thing with teh debuff if you use the boss fleet twice in a row
super CV fleets get replaced with 3 star CV fleets, boss debuff is removed entirely
we still don't have oil cost limit in w15 yet right? or do we?
what debuff
just wondering but how much harder is w15 compared to w14 
W15 is W14+W13H
So enemy air support is removed and the debuff is removed too? Woudl the boss fleet fight the boss each time?
yes
I guess that could work
Analysis debuff
when you fight a boss in 15-3 or 15-4 the fleet that fights get's a debuff similar to the out of ammo debuff, it is not removed until the other fleets fights a boss

Boss only
so we are supposed to fight the boss multiple times similar with Abyssal fight?
it's 3 seperate bosses in 15-4 and 2 in 15-3
The non-last bossfights are usually minibosses mind you
ok last question
do I need Vanguard or Kron (or both) in w15? no right?
no not really
I haven't used either and haven't even seen anyone suggest them to be used
if you have the better options no
yeah just to make sure
what's the strat with those bosses? do you save the boss fleet for the last one?
well if the mob fleet is strong enough you can take the first and 3rd bosses in 15-4 with the mob fleet
For 15-4 you can do Boss-Mob-Boss, For 15-3 you should probably do Mob-Boss
is the 2nd one more difficult or somethin
no, it's the easiest if anything
the dedicated mob fleet can just sustain through the fights better if it's strong enough
Yeah but I don't know that they can take the last boss fight especially after taking so much damage from the mobs
That's why I think Boss-Mob-Boss
Who could have thought that picking 6 ships from my "free win" tier would give...a free win?
Chapter 15 tier list: https://youtu.be/5CzakYRqMoI
Onefleeting 15-4 with this fleet + high tech: https://youtu.be/483787ENun8
My EXACT gear and ships (some of it is bad, don't blindly copy): https://renhex.github.io/alft/89
I don't normally promote AL tubers but well
essex spotted 
Go all-in al Ulrich or save for Vanguard?
youtubers bad
considering Vanguard isn't rerunning for a few months at least
oh hey Kron
I thought Vanguarrd was in a couple weeks?
vanguard isnt rerunning for a long while, plus we have three more events to go through first before rerunning vanguard
We have a UR rerun right now, I don't think they'll do one in a couple of weeks
what kind of copium you smoking rn lol
Where did you even hear that from
2, maybe 3 depending on how they handle Impero
Thgouth they made an announcement when they announced UvH and Shinano/NJ
no
they made no such announcement, like not even something remotely close
they do that stuff in livestreams
(mostly)
yeah but nothing about Vanguard there
UR events have their own dedicated livestreams and any reruns are announced near the tail end of said streams
~~ but some vanguard ships will definitely be rerun soon ~~
WEll, we should have a stream in around a month but that's for a new UR
I was confused when I came back to the game after retired for two years and saw a BB named as Vanguard
~~ blame the Brits ~~
Real quick, is there some kinda advantage to using that blue rarity torp launcher?
her smoke is tied to her torps launching so faster reload time = more smokes
And most people use either that or the french triple mag
Ah i see
Also dont use the in-game loadouts menu for gear advice
Yep, it's amazing how of the 4 loadouts displayed there not a single one even has rudder
is datamine up now?
each of them has something wrong with them
TRP
Ight to the O2 torps are good for her
not yet
pretty sure CN just started maint too
It'll be posted here once it's up, keep kalm
Actually yknow what

ectl
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Tyty
Whats Laffey 2 good for?
Battles
Or is she just a generalist like yuudachi
She do damage and tanky af
Pretty good aA too if you use USS gear
pretty
After Anchorage who should I go for Research in p5 or 6?
why does that gun looks a bit off
perspective kinda weird
the rest of PR4 -> Everyone except Prinz Rupper -> PR6
German engineering
looks like a needle instead of a barrel
baffling
special skill, third bullet fires at a 15 degree angle from the rest
I mean
I mean at least that can trick my eyes as in the barrels are at different elevations
will this be good for w15?
It has infinity AA
i'll go ask my crystal ball
who knows, wait
xd
i can't do anything yet 
and people have been clearing W15 since day 1
brother in christ even if we get stats on the plane there still needs to be testing done, can't immediately give an answer to that, and that goes for all the new gear 
wasn't there a war archive that gave sea hornet prints?
is this datamine 
no, Naga is trying to craft their own OS
The event it was a map drop on has not been rerun much less archived
And honestly why do that when you can pretty much mass produce Tigercat and flapjacks
Vanguard
its from vanguard event
normally 1.5h later right?
considering they're WG napkin sketches yes
running low on parts, bought out shop and have no more coords with missions only giving purple and blue parts
few mins to few hours depending on my laptop performance for stats
grind OpSi for a few more months then
i vaguely remember there was one war archive map that dropped them not the actual event
um... is that spearfish plane? looks like sakura plane
look at the right side of the image
Vangaurd's event had the map which dropped Sea Hornets
I should know I farmed 5 of them
sea hornet is event shop when it first appeared then event drop in new event
Perseus's event had the sea hornet as event shop gear, not a map drop
Royal
yeah its green and have reddish swirl thing like sakura plane
that's the shiden not the spearfish
left is Shidan, right is Spearfish 
i know its royal the plane just looks similiar to a sakura plane
ok, sure #al-general would love to hear
oh wtf lol guess im mistaken i swear i told a friend of mine to farm a war archive with that specific plane
you should get better friends
also where's the image for the new gear i just saw it but i didn't get to look close
why
why though, their friends doesn't do anything wrong
he only plays for the gacha so his gear is kinda shit
oh ok its blue red circle thing found on royal after closer look
this ur right?
why listen to them for such advice in the first place then...
yeah
any clue on what kind of slot the spearfish goes into yet or nah?
torpedo bomber
Probably either Wyvern sidegrade or Skyraider sidegrade, or complete trash
he didn't? he told his friend, not his friend told him
torp with rocket?
Thank
excuse me while I go commit

That would be a first
maybe ju87 upgrade?


Is this one good to upgrade
those torps look french asf
that's cause they are
usable but dont reroll
not the ultimate best, but still usable
what do i prioritize for bb and cv tech again?
oh lol
reload first if it helps you meet timing breakpoints else hit>FP/AVI
At least the quality of images look better than 128×128 this time 
gun looks like gk gun
hit > fp > rld=avi
u missing ace
Pommern gun
alright the tech grind begins then
So I'm unlucky as shit and got UvH 20 off pity, do I trade 40 cubes for a Dupe at this point even tho it sounds like an awful idea? 💀
save
how much UR bulin you have?
One
oh it's Pommern? I thought someone mentioned triple 406skc
and how much UR you need to LB
3 More
and how many cubes do you ahve now
40 cubes is enough to clear 2 banners
imo yes
if youre lucky 
sounds like a skill issue
354, this girl ate like 300
save then
i would pull
I'd still rather not tempt fate with that count

remind me how many UR BBs did you have
I would level to 5 and then reroll the talent until you hit either flame or ace to start
It has 3 very good mods, just missing ace and flame
Vanguard, FdG
that's it
no never reroll that cat
Will datamine have the material cost for the new gear or just cope for maintenance to end
i should be able to output mats when i found the script, and the tree since i just speedran that
wym clear banners?
pull every ship
get every rate up ship
4x288 torp + 4x65 rockets that have 110/100/80
so it's a TB with rockets and torps
parallel tb?
TB not DB?
converging or parallel?
Wait what we talking about?
Well that's a first
New gear lab ur
RP-3 rockets?
JP specifically said TB
huh 65 rocket damage seems so low
cant really expect much when its already a skypirate
10.70s, no intercept
Dead on arrival fr 😔 /j
torp is interesting
how so
wait why is it so fast
so basically skypirate with rocket lol
Why did you ask this btw? 
that may have potentially changed things, if you had a slightly higher cube count I may have said go for it
u need be very lucky then
I can swipe the Cruise pass if that's a concern
nah just be skilled
or just have enough cubes
all you need is 20
parallel cause hms
10 pull for a banner lol luck u need

so a Skypirate with Rockets that costs about as much as a wyvern probably, great

sigh, parallel torp. w/o intercept 
is there even a point in it over wyvern 
so its more of a mobbing plane
Manjuu trying to make some goofy ahh parallel-converging hybrid that's worse than both
kinda perfect for w15 actually
mobbing plane with rocket lul
how so
does it intercept?
is there a way to tell if its aimed or parallel trp?
how slow was wyvern again
its not 100% its parallel
like 11.8
Hmmm UvH > Laffey for MLB? even if I got the Laffey dupe from the event shop? Or not
but 99 it is
so this is pretty fast then 
65 dmg per rocket and not so good modifiers tho
How do we already know some things about the new toys
most briish and usa torps are parallel while ijn and german are aimed
Where datamine
not yet
breguet is 10 for reference
WIP
Ahh ok
potentially if you don't need wyvern AA I guess I can see it having some use but
axis aimed, allies parallel
its pretty much skipable actually, ive been playing without it for a bit, you just need a good burst timing to kill cv elites before they spawn planes
Any opinions? 
how much wiggle room are we talking timing wise on that
You mean Wyvern is skippable?
its pretty rng
yeah....
based on the random side adds dying to vg
id say 70% of the time it works out
but its like regardless of plane youre exploding
spearfish is prototype, so it use ur testing thing instead of ur plane design
wyvs will prob make you take 1% less damage from a wave that does 50% to each backline
so ur plane is rocket wyvern no intercept?
rocket Skypirate
skypirate + shitty rockets
so skippable if 3+ wyverns?
ill prob be trying them out on srl
pretty much
bless
i think theyre better than wyvs
datamine 
unless Riceist cooks something they're passable I'd say
can you not spam 
So we let him cook?
yep
as usual
This have rockets or nah?
yes chef
huh that fighter is 2x 500lb bomb?
yes
Where do I get stuff for the gear lab?
I think I got some from OS but I dont know because they are in tiny amounts
isn't that just normal fighter
Noice
operation siren is the main source
sry my fault
Well that's the thing with GearLab/Opsi, it takes a few months before you can make something decent
my cooking has gotten me to an awkward position of either not enough AA or not enough vg damage
2 x500lb is pretty mid no? shinden kai anything to wave a stick at?
but im still being stubborn on subs
champy gun tree
that's just transitional fighter
as expected
wtf
lol scam
protocore stays
back to protocore reccs
at least people can get their plates back
torp?
that torps have high light armor modifier?
does anything stand out from the new gear lab except for the ur plane?
uh yes sbtu wierd xd
interesting
I'm curious about the cost on the Twin, and Triple 234 
is that new torp parallel or standard fan
wait its not sticky is it? the torp

oh, Barracuda, nice I've wanted to refund plates
oh neat a use for all of my barracudas collecting dust /j
iris torps are not magnetic
i can finally burn my cudas
Well it's less costly than the Wyvern at least, I think?
potentially but UR design plans are gonna be the main bottlekneck
finally, anti-light torps for manual play 
New Ur dive bomber for gearlab 
huh...
it use ur testing instead ur plane design i guess
That is the weirdest looking gun
btw the fighter isnt much better than the plate on aa right?
is there gonna be oil compensation for maint
Yes
why wouldnt there be
what even is the purpose of the pommern gun
new fighter is still 2x500 so 
so the BB gun is upgrade to odin gun?
yes but lol odin gun
Upgrade from trash
barrage spam 
why does it go down wtf
idk ask devs
why not
i guess that means magnetic versions are coming in the future pogu
future build path, I guess
Am I colorblind or is Nagami's name not green?
could just be so it fits on one screen without scrolling
ok that's for new ones
wtf ordnance
now for old ones, drake gun first
weird flandre gun(triple 381mm) has more dmg than triple 380mm skc
How is Guams damage compared to other CB's?
cringe material
Another Ur HMS tb 
what do you mean by "triple 380mm skc"
BiS HE Barrage gun just looking at some quick numbers but HE Barrage gun
No, it's only about equal to fdg gun
overall good, sme with others
Ye it should be decent on mobbing
CB, so really tanky and she also has big AA 
sounds about right
Is that a rocket and Torp plane?
drake gun locked behind paywall i see
new gun, prototype 380mm skc
ok where the fuck the lines is
time to burn some cheshire guns
oh that's expensive as fuck
Wouldn't ever guess that one
sounds perfect for antilight barrage ship
the ur one? yes
Do we know the mats?
ouh no lines because start from chesh
dataminer is going through them rn 
in datamine sheet stay tuned ™️
Is it classed as a TB?
ok now aug
just protocore Cheshire guns
yes
yay for being a boomer
wait where does Sextuple sit in the tree
idk jus checking lolo
When there is no other royal ship in fleet, KGV gun restriction is removed. Else normal buff applies
doesn't that conflict with her self-buff that incentivizes running her with hms ships
the BB KMS lines need fixes
So she still bad 
i'll repost all at once later 
gyatt
i guess free preload is nice but rip
interesting game design there Manjuu
so a lot of disappointment this time around then 
It'll just be like a mini flandre
So new tb Vs wyvern or not yet?
t0 like flandre 
chill lol
I'm just gonna say it's worse
Kgv can't be used in mob
time to change name
less damage per torps, no intercept ability, rockets are shitty
new tb is wierd it has rockets with torps(maybe for opsi?? mobbing ??) while wyven is more with aa
It's rockets ?
Yeah, anti-light
The gear looks interesting overall
Mostly feels like a set of sidegrades with new gimmicks
what does wyvern have to do with aa
Intercept
Wyvern can passively intercept like fighters
ohh
auto fly so take down enemy planes
only thought fighters did that lol
The French torps are just regular fan no guidance right?
what’s the torp bomber’s reload?
wyvern and i think the french plane have it as a bonus
Wyvern and baguette are the exception
Wyvern and the French TB are the only non-fighters who have passive AA intercept
which french plane
Event one
oh nvm
breguet
Breguet br.10
Bregeut (baguette)
fast
is this even useful? never see it in equip tl
Someone ping me when DM is up (like in pins)
Why this not in Gear Lab yet 😔
Huh how is this French
what do the stars in friends list stand for?
Spearfish will be the best antilight TB
And how does autosearch for w15 work or is that beyond us?
it is basically baby wyvern
And yes its on ECTL
Like normal auto search
Supercarrier node replaced with a 3 🔺 carrier node and whoever fights the boss fights all bosses if applicable
debuff from fighting bosses is also removed
the boss debuff will removed, mob will attack mob, boss will attack all boss

which is spearfish again? the new ur tb?
Yes
Why not?
does it change the mob tag on second boss
do we have costs of the pr3 gear yet?
all new gear lab equip tree
So are the new TBs homing with rockets then?
Time to make 5 spearfishes to min max
from the wording it seems boss fleet will fight all 3 bosses
where sextuple
But no debuff
there's also no debuff anymore for w15
Damn
is that a german time fuze
that’s old
i'm dumb
how do u even get that many ordnance report
read HMS as KMS
By grinding opsi
isnt that like 6 months worth of ordnance report
you can convert T2s to T3s at a rate of 8 to 1
Dw we all are 
We haven't had new gear in 6 months too
ohhh
Last was ACAD or whatever
that's not bad actually
is that new purple AA?
12 sexys let’s gooo
Sex bofors winner 
what does all these mean 
it have EN name so old
why is everyone freaking out over them
research to basically free
new = exciting
read the patch notes....
new stuff = "hype"
reading is hard yknow
No more pcore
do we have crafting costs for the pr3 gear?
huh on half the images my sara icon is getting cut off
I wanna know how feasible Champy gun rush is gonna be in the lab
wait protocore is just gone??????
No
They're saying that you no longer need to use protocore on PR3 gear
ahhhhhh, you can clearly tell i do not read
Would be fucking insane if they thanosed a entire currency overnight
wouldn’t be the first time
and would never be the last
the text also cut off
actually accurate as ingame
so how are new stuff going
yes
badly
Underwhelming
no mk7 i sleep
I'm interested in new antilight stuff tho

2x500 bomb fighter, anti-light non mag torps, Skypirate but with rockets, and Odin gun side grade from what the general impression has been so far from what I can tell
what do the sexys cost
is there any point in keeping 2 copies of a ur unit?
I'll be back when datamine
Use dupes to MLB, scrap otherwise
umm... different between purple and gold torp beside dmg?
thats what i thought, ty
oh the torps are reverse mods 
non magnetic though
not really feasible cause electronics
is blue AA bofors gun good enough?
anti-light torps for manual 
that's what I though, rip
plus you have to craft jb gun from scratch
What
Doubt that's good at all unless you mean the 76mm
and pray for iris box rng, and the only not rng source to even get the tech boxes is medal shop
jb gun is in core shop tho?
coreshop
I think the gold gun used as a prerequisite is in the core shop, so if you don't have many of the circuit boards you could do that
archive farm
i noticed every bofors AA gun is highly rated but no on blue one xd
ehh, 800 core to spend on gear lab fodder
that sounds like a massive waste of resources
that same as wyvern
Obviously expensive for a new account
But it is an option
how is the new ur plane’s individual rocket damage compared to a fuck wolf rocket?
like almost haved compared to the Bf-109G
prob like 1/2
is it really rocket
the mods are heavy bias like torp
I would just farm iris war archives if you really need the gun to build into it and you can't get the blue one from the boxes
so since it’s 4 UR rockets to 2 fuck wolf rockets they’re about the same?
oh it has 2 ordnance
comapred to the Fw 190 A6 it's less than 1/3
wait, so unlike UR event pity where it resets after 200 builds, the standard exchange points won't reset after 400 points?
I think that only applies if you don't claim the pity
it has both torp and rocket 
1pts:1cube spent
so 3 ur rockets ≈ 1 fuck wolf rocket?
Better than f6f hvar?
give or take just on rockets, not accounting for mods of course
hopefully. would hate to claim a UR, then never be able to claim perma URs again. hope i'm overthinking
obviously, just trying to see if it was the cursed child of a skypirate and FW A6
it still better than fw for total dmg if you account for the entire plane
does kgv aug just remove gun lock?
No, it means you HAVE to redeem at 400, it won't go over 400.
So any builds after 400 waste the points.
My sandy is bugged how do i fix
ya
does it atleast upgrade her barrage to 100%
no
only remove the req from what i read

No fun for KGV
kgv no uptier
i tihnk her buff procs on 2 hms now
and it even require 0 hms
Wait the new ur plane will allow for sakura lights setup to perform better ehh
modified her red skill?
yes the skill require 0 hms in the fleet to proc
1/18 Maintenance FAQ (Permanent UR)
Datamine
Permanent UR Rate?
Permanent URs have a 1.2% chance of appearing in either Heavy or Special pool.
- All permanent URs are in both pools.
- Permanent URs will never appear in any Event pools.
Permanent UR Pity?
For every cube spent on a banner that does not contain a limited UR ship, you gain 1 point towards pity.
400 points = 1 UR ship
- This is infinitely repeatable.
- This is seperate from limited UR pity.
Should I go for permanent URs? Reroll for them?
There is no point to getting them early. Just do your daily build and move on in your life.
You are limited by UR bulin income, and the UR bulin income is very low considering we have permanent URs, rerun URs, and potential new UR ships that will eat into that.
Furthermore, the permanent UR ships, as they are older, are slightly worse than UR ships released more recently.
Do the new War Archives have anything worth farming?
- Mirror Involution D3 drops prints for the High Performance Hydraulic Steering Gear, which is a great defensive auxiliary for cruisers. Its fine to farm it, but you will passively get prints for this through research so returns are limited.
- Dreamwaker's Butterfly has no noteworthy gear.
- Ships from both are alright but nothing special; not worth going for outside collection.
more info coming soon tm

quick maths before mods it does 1/3 of the damage of the rocket fighters.....
which kms shitter is the other aug?
like Z18
Wait it doesn't use plane plates?
cuz yongshi said so

did I remember wrong there's only 1 new UR? isn't it like 2 UR?
well, guess I'm crafting another 57 then
Drake gun is in the lab now
theyre stealing your ords before they release tenrais
I mean other than the plane and drake gun
no
Ddg and main/sec, am I tripping or is this new?
so, KGV aug is actually trash?
DDG can equip BB gun 
yes trash
more of a bandaid
looks like it
It's fixes only 1 of her issues
unpaired tag 
it fix 0
the remove gun req require 0 hms in the fleet
1 step forward one step back
just why
maybe she's too broken if she got both preload and good gun and self buff
Either way new torp bomber is meh ?
she still bad even with you removing gun req
what’s Z18 aug
a barrage
more barrage iirc
holy uptier
yes z18 aug matter more than kgv aug
Is spearfish parallel or homing?
it has rocket too apparently
probs parallel considering barracuda?
basic parra torp but 4 instead 3
so these are getting datamined but wher my datamine
Spearfish is pretty fast eh? 10.8
Is this good?
nope
I love KGV
kgv aug is poopoo
bad news it does nothing in the grand scheme of thing
is ANYTHING being added good?
Ok thanks
Spearfish shit tb 
kgv aug good, prevents faction fleets 
is iris torp normal torp spread with high light mod?
KGV's Aug turns her into a walking contradiction
No more gun restriction but it requires her to be the only brit in the fleet which is counter intuitive to her HMS buff 
what is the rp-3 on spearfish
rocket
does it have intercept?
no
what a dog plane
It's fast tho 
Antilight opsi cope
i like it in theory atleast
Spearfish not lookin so good Mr Stark 
tldr of this patch
pr3 to gear lab
it’s an expensive combination of a skypirate and fw a6 with no intercept
probably only good on opsi or where there is no plane
Is anything new any good?
may craft 1 or 2 for opsi mob
else meh
just use wyverns
you guys are a little too hung up on wyv intercept
Do I need to fix anything else?
Hsfcr for preloader why
wyvern cant kill elites
aug
If you are running HE weapons, don't run crossbow
if it's a mobbing plane, then intercept is pretty normal to want

It lowers your light armor mod
if you need intercept for mob something is wrong tbh
those gold iris torps look like straights
kinda depends who you use it on, if youre using it on a 2slot the intercepts not making a difference
its normal torp
Only thing I'm interested in now is new unzen torps for me
is there any good aa ships for w13?
the Iris Torps are Cone Patterned?
sandy, juneau, guam, laffey2
ya
🚮
A lot, Guam and laffey2 from last event will do great
Come pattern and no mag
but reverse light/heavy mods
laffey 2 and my guam has no limit breaks yet
Cone pattern?
thats why i said tldr of this patch is pr3 to gear lab
everything else doesnt even matter
normal pattern
juneau retrofit
What is cone pattern
Like the other non mag torps?
Thoughts on the Spearfish?
ya
Hot garbage
mobbing plane
That pricetag seems unnecessarily expensive.
9 fucking experimental UR prints is expensive.
just about every Torpedeo Launcher fires in a Cone Pattern with the except of the British 553
uss torp
its actually a cone just a small one
Or the American one
Alright so gonna stay away from it.
Meh it's experimental, not that bad
How about the other new gear? Any thoughts?
also bad

the odin gun upgrade looks like funny mobbing
But other than that they're not worth crafting I presume.
what's the dps for the bb gun?
too bad it doesnt do damage
to bad dps doesnt matter
Does new shiden have good AA or am I tripping?
shitden always had good aa
but 2x500 🚮
But what if w15 support
prob similiar to pancake? pirate rof pancake intercept rof
still the same shitden AA
4 iterations, and they could only give it 2x500 
cos it was fast flight right
ye
60 speed 
i see plane speed 60
i actually have a new theory that needs testing
Spearfish for 15?
no
but i need to understand why fw+flap does better than 2x fw and 2x flap
Japs historically never had 1000lb bombs, only 800KG
Stagger or something
the numbers riceist, what do they mean
its fake
I'm aware
my guess is theres no conflicts due to the intercept times having stagger
Tenrai fighter when
That's more than 1000lb tho
they would just naturally stream planes so no conflicts regardless after 1st launch
dont think wow has tenrai fighter
is it better fw+pancake?
The game measures in lb but the japs use the sane, metric system of 250 kg
nope, just 2 Tenrai DBs
but historically tenrai was designed as fighter
think there ar tenrai tb as well
Sure 2400kg of tnt surely won’t affect a fighter
quick question it seem like none of new gear will improve w15 condition right?
itll give it better AA since itll fly slower
probably not
likely not
Outside of easier access to sexy bofors
Who should be in the full Royal navy Team?
obligatory faction fleets suck
Faction fleet bad and depends
have 2 +13 one +10 so no need
is the new fighter really just 2x 500lb bomb without any added value compared to similar fighter?
Some people didn’t spend 3-4K protocore
german he fleet is actually good for light armor bossing
its just faster and a lower intercept cd
yea, i only have one sexy 
its easier to get if you havent do pr3
sounds shit already
i grinded'
Ply gun in protocore tonight as well right or is that later?
“grinded” implies you stopped, but the grind never ends 💪
How’s the upgraded Odin gun?
like pr3 research
am not grinding pr3 anymore now
compare to mk6 which better?
mk6
German BB guns are rapid fire
Merchant raiding
Hinden wants dual drake gun or her gun?
wait is this the minotasur gun?
no
How many hours till mainte for Global?
2
1 hour 55
Nowhere close
Those look nothing alike lol
o dam ye am blind sry
go ask #history
a normal day of me continuosly being blind
champ gun is suprisingly not expensive 
Bart gun actually useful
its lightning gun i think
Gotta love how the new French Torp is already showing signs of rust
ah
I manual so I already love this update because of it 
this
Anyone got Drake gun costs?
the doc
its in the doc i think
tldr 6 ordn
But jap torps exist
And shima Torp is stronk
Hmmm surprisingly not that bad
Wait nvm I forgot it’s light
hello, which corrosion level is better to spam when farming 'cat search' in op siren, C5 or C6 maps? Both maps can possibly spawn 2 cat search nodes but is there a difference of drop chance?
3 if you have no life else 5
Thoughts on the new ur plane
6 is just expensive 5
okie thank you
Super expensive anti light tb
Opsi Cope
is it really antilight tho since it only do 65 damage per rocket?
about as antilight as ryuuseis
Have you done the math to compare it to normal converging tbs?
Single target yeah?
wait
It's just a saiun upgrade and only against light
for rockets is spread lower the better?
maybe
this is 126 for new tb while 125 for hvar
For most weapons in most situations lower spread is better
k cool ty
it only do half damage as ryusei vs light
Yeah but the bigger splash nullified the bigger spread and also benefits slightly
Oh this is cool the new french torp looks like a better quads
not counting the parallel torps of course
no
Not magnetic
idk parallel hitrate
Oh it isnt magnetic 
i compared bruh it suks its only 1/3 of an hvar sooo
Now compare other converging TB to hvarcat
Well thats lame, spearfish is just a parallel + single target plane?
skypirate with poopoo rocket
It's also really expensive to craft 9 T3 oridnance reports ain't cheap
Even worse
huh?
it also has lower torp dmg then wyven
hvar is huge compared to converging yes, but the new rocket only do half the converging if not counting the parallel
If you rush It's like 3 months from scratch but no crafting stuff that needs T2 ordinances like flapjacks and 155 kais
It tries to be 2 things at once then fails being anything
what huh, compare spearfish to convTB not compare to hvarcat
yeah spearfish only do half ryusei vs light
Idk
time to shove it into mob and cope the rocket kills elites cuz wyvern cant

its called 1+1<2 XD
another win for 3 cv opsi mob fleet users
o ye true
Well "Win" until it costed 9 ordinance reports
guys, new plane has the best rockets of any torpedo bomber in the game 
How's the new IB BB gun gonna be? I saw that it's HE, is that correct?
What's the consensus on these new UR TBs?
mk6 better
Technically true 
gonna need testing
Are they parallel or converging?
Its both but fails being the best at either
Wait so from the data alone, any of the new stuff worth crafting?
How does that work?
Skypirate with doodoo rockets
Low priority stuff
Which one?
parallel torpedos with rockets
not rly for me only ur plane and pr3 stuff
Low priority stuff
Not gonna lie I was expecting a tb with only rockets in them so we can actually have tbs pulling more of their weight on anti-light 
prob only champyguns and sexys
Ah yes, a TORPEDO bomber with no torpedoes. 
hows triple 234 is it still good?
One can dream...
Prob like skyrider, more rocket but only 1trp maybe
worse then pr6 one tho?
depends
More like sidegrade
better against heavy
Its good for ur gun
it’s a rainbow gun
Better than other sr gun
All of the existing ur ca guns have their own armor purposes
Hinden gun for med
Drake gun for heavy
Unzen gun for light
wow, you super pinch me but not him
drake for best lazy gun
hinden is ap tho?
drek is more mixed
drake is normal shell
hind gun can pierce 
could've just made UR rocket 😂
read the ammo mod 
what does the runes means
s p r e a d
lets just all wait for the july new guns
PR7 waiting room
Whats the parallel torps damage comparable to? Wyvern or lower than wyvern
what is the most valuable vanguard tech
... its not that hard to figure out
skypirate
skypirate
i suppose u live in a world where google exist
I do foresee a lot of people making the new purple iris torps for light armor
And hopefully another Gear Lab update this June too 
the 8 kinda hard
they promised twice per year last june

maybe use google translate'
Maybe answer the question
yeah but how i gonna type it?
by reading it
i don't know chinese
surely your phone has some kind of image to text translate
besides DD FP
maybe u can use image
Orc image translator
