#๐ก Pro modeler channel
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Please discuss this idea civilly, don't forget to vote on this idea in #๐๏ธฑserver-suggestions!
what does it add that #๐ง๏ธฑmodeling doesnt do
m1 is basically a free role, way easier to get than s1, we need a channel to lock them and the yellow names out โ ๏ธ
yeah but what does gatekeeping them do
well what does #๐๏ธฑpro-scripting do?
fr we need to get rid of all those builders and yellow names flooding modelling ๐
exactly
that's where people talk about the advanced topic that takes a higher understanding of the skill
you wouldn't get that in modeling
why wouldn't you get that in modeling?
because modeling doesn't have that stuff
why do you think so?
what does modeling have that a beginner couldn't have a decent grasp on enough to be in the conversation
many things
right
advanced techniques for shading(changing vertex normals etc) more advanced softwares for texturing and other stuff(just like substance designer, all the advanced techniques to make tileable complicated textures). Good understanding of topology, it would take alot of time for beginners to understand how to optimize and use different techniques to make the topology good and have perfect shading. Texturing has tons of stuff that is abit too advanced for a newbie to handle. and there is so much more
modeling isn't just extruding
yeah but a beginner can have a conversation with all these things
and gradient colors
not really
they don't have to be individually good at it to hold a conversation about stuff like shading
i've seen alot of newbies get confused alot by these
i've seen alot of newbies even after explaining not understand how to change vertex normals of foliage for example to make good shading inside the engines
as someone who doesn't model
i know what these are though
also texturing itself, it's crazy how many advanced techniques there are that newbies just won't understand. Alot of advanced workflows to achieve different results
and explaining all that shit to robuilder fans is annoying since they just won't understand without having already some knowledge on the stuff
you don't have to explain it to them
if they understand texturing in general they would have enough knowledge to understand what's going on
well some don't. even some with basics knowledge in texturing don't know how to transfer handpainted textures into roughness or even normal maps
i dont think you understand
their individual skill isn't going to define if they can use the channel or not
what?
debatable on the m1 being free. But i do think a pro modeler channel would be super cool because blender is pretty confusing and it's probably hard to find people good at modeling to help with modeling stuff
m1 is very much free. it takes 5 minutes of blender unironically to get m1. id even say that m2 is almost comparable in skill to s1 purely based off of how much time it takes to achieve one or the other
it took me 4 hours of blender to get m1, and even then only 1 out of 2 people vouched
Maybe blender just isnt for u bro โ ๏ธ
can you show me a picture of someone's work that you think is m1 quality
You don't have to texture or have good topo for m1
i can try to find the screenshot of what i made
smth like this I could imagine being vouched m1
i think i made this off a tutorial, this screenshot doesnt do it enough justice but there's modifiers to mirror the sword over, to make the middle of the blade cave in, and on the end of the handle to make the oval shaped thing. There's probably more modifiers but i don't remember because i made this back in april
(not mine)
Oh thats why then, you cant get vouched off of tutorial work
why not? its not like scripting where you can just mindlessly write down whatever the dude in the tutorial is typing, you have to actually somewhat understand what's going on
and i did get a vouch for it
Well whoever did was tweaking- its always been a rule that you cant be vouched for tutorial work as it doesnt show your own skill, just your ability to follow a tutorial.
its really difficult to mindlessly follow a blender tutorial without knowing what's going on
But that model if it was your own work couldve been mid-high m1, if the textures were a little cleaner it couldve been very low m2
ok, agree to disagree ig, i just think blender is different from s1 because with s1 you can mindlessly write down the same script as someone else so tutorials shouldn't be allowed
just my thoughts
I don't think that you can
with s1?
oh mb i worded it wrong
im saying you shouldnt be able to get vouched for s1 by following a tutorial
Yeah you shouldnt
because you can really just copy paste or write down the exact same thing as in the tutorial without understanding it
that being said script rankers can tell when you've just used a tutorial
which isnt always the case with modelers unless they have seen the tutorial themselves
oh definitely
but yeah smth like this deffo couldve been vouched m1 at some point
no they cant ๐
90% of m1s dont have a clue about texturing to begin with.
And when they do have knoweledge about texturing its not hand painted or uses PBR
Its usually that robuilder shit where they just use gradients ๐ญ
It must be everyday that someone asks how to fix their model with crap normals or how to take their mesh theyve coloured with materials into roblox โ ๏ธ
he's a hater
don't mind him
his opinion doesn't matter since he doesn't even know how to model
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dead channel 
(totally not trying to make a prognostic).... anyways, if you are going to create pro-modeling (since there's #๐๏ธฑpro-scripting ) might as well create a pro channel for the myriad of ranks out there
every topic can be advanced in some way, not just modeling and scripting

removing pro-scripting will not solve the problem ๐
it will
server would not benefit from a pro modeling channel
you won't
since you don't model
how does pro modeling benefit the modeling community
many ways
right
"how would this help"
"it would"

wait @sweet escarp was it always gigtih
swear it was gigith
yes
yup keep crying that you wouldn't have access to pro modeling
keep crying that it will never exist ๐บ
ok noob at modeling
what
tf are you talking about ๐ญ
smartest modeler:
"i want pro modeling because i want to feel cool"
bruh what

i don't even understand what you want, you're arguing for no damn reason. and you don't even know shit about modeling and say that it doesn't have a big skill gap or whatever
go script some brains
why is jimmi muted
he was pretending to be a modeler
ohh
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other channels arent as active. but if they advocated for their own pro channels i wouldnt be against it
Modeling is fairly active for its size
this is @lapis dome spending 10 hours on this model and then giving up and hating on modeling since
why the fuck would we not be talking about this server locally 
erm ๐ค i don't model because it's a useless skill in life โ๏ธ
just like scripting
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yuh you use scratch
average rsc argument experience:
lose argument -> insult other person because your point was invalid
i didn't see any valid points from you though
the density in the modeling community is astounding
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it wouldn't from pro scripting either if we take your logic
also it isn't the server that would benefit but the modelers
why are you asking me i didnt make the channel
nobody would actually benefit
exactly, then shut the fuck up ๐ญ
you just want the power of being able to access a channel that others cant
the power to not get intruded by grey names and pissnames like you
if you made a pro modeling channel, then one of them would just die
no?
i do NOT go in the modeling channel lmfao
those people are not the brightest in the world
yes because you're not a modeler ๐
you haven't seen scripting with their ginger roulette then.
lmfao
you're just trolling at this point
just forget about him, he just wants to argue, since he has no skills and just envies us
a great argument considering i don't even post my work in here ๐
bro probably tried donut tutorial and rage quitted at ep 1 ๐
lol your ego is wayyy too massive to argue anything
another outlandish take with 0 platform to stand on ๐
sure buddy
don't act like you don't have a massive ego when this conversation started with you wanting to gatekeep newer modelers ๐
tf you're talking about
it's not like fucking #๐ง๏ธฑmodeling would dissapear if pro modeling appeared
stop arguing for no reason
why are you even arguing at the first place
did modeling give you a trauma or something
no
this is just a dumb idea lol
why are you so obsessed with arguing over it though
i'm not obsessed you just keep responding lol
you won't even touch modeling or anything modeling related, why would it bother you
well and you keep responding to me
i couldn't care less if the channel got added or not
i just said that it would provide 0 value to the server
still you did dumb statements like modeling is a useless skills that doesn't matter outside of roblox, like wtf is that even supposed to mean
that's just straight up stupidity
idk why your trying to act like you were an angel in this
i mean i am sure you still cry that you wouldn't get access to it
still you did dumb statements like modeling is a useless skills that doesn't matter outside of roblox, like wtf is that even supposed to mean
that's just straight up stupidity
have you done anything with modeling outside of roblox?
yup
i am an envirnmental artist, i use unreal engine
who said that I made it
just so you know, with modeling basics you can use modeling anywhere, not limited to roblox at all
it was a stupid statement that you said that it's a useless skill limited to roblox only
STOP THERE! kej is right, it's only limited to roblox (everyone is wrong but they're right)
especially when kej knows nothing about modeling and we do
erm acksually your an m1 so clearly you're ass at modeling
fr, robuilder invented modeling and it's roblox only
at least im better than you, pissname
also im m2, trust trust
no no no because m1 means your bad right
lowpoly oversaturated gradient simulator styled models for life ๐ฅ๐ฅ
and so we need to make a channel to segregate the m1s from the m2s
I prefer being bad than being literal piss ๐
ok then, gtfo
piss name > m1
apparently m1 is 'free to get'
if you have the skills required
You can't even get something free ๐
because i dont model
You dont script either so...
exactly
stop trolling

they're either trolling or they're something that I probably cannot say here
"you don't have the role so you can't do it"
follow that quote!
i've never seen people get so upset over actually nothing
If u dont care theres no need to ride against it so much โ ๏ธ
why would they care
average pissname scripter
nah some scripters aren't annoying
most are
im so upset rn ๐ก
I think that I'm going to cry about it
if you weren't upset you wouldn't be here
why are you there blud
im not upset, im trying to get the suggestion added
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so would you, you're upset that modeling is better than useless skill such as scripting
I dont get why scripters hate the idea that 3D modelling is an actual skill?! like none of the ppl who disliked it have an mrank to begin with 
also you guys complain that i'm fighting against something that i wouldn't have access to
when literally half of you also aren't m2 so you wouldn't be able to use the channel ๐
fr
oh well avarage luae scripter
We model better than u script โ ๏ธ
- not even comparable
- you don't even know how well i script
you can't script shit
right
probably just some button for roblox simulator game is all you can script
even if you're the best person on the earth at scripting, I don't think anyone give a shit but ok
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i feel sooooo attacked because of how much evidence you have to stand on that claim
skibidi toilet tower defence ๐ญ
?
they prob don't have one ๐
i don't have to prove anything to you lol
** You are now Level 17! **
you don't have any evidence on any of your claims ๐
which claims
that modeling is a useless skill
apparently he thinks it's useless skill
let em yap
don't take pissname freedom
yeah sure just show me which rule i'm breaking real quick
of yapping
toxicity (trust)
uh no
harassement
no im a modeler!
nuh uh
im both
?
you are literally sitting here still driving the argument
how
lol
how did you hide it
it never existed in the first place
another completely ballistic ad hominem attack with 0 evidence to stand on that claim
photoshopped
why would anyone be working at 7:30pm on a weekend during a holiday anyway the fuck!?
i don't have to prove to you that i script
it's not even relevant to the argument
not the point but good try
you're not relevant in this thread
^^
then neither is cloud, canarda, or QP
modeling suggestion > we are modelers
but the suggestion is something that would only matter to m2+'s
i believe that says m1
he's m3
well apparently it's a few seconds to ask a mod to give you a lower rank ๐ญ
m1 is just the cool thing to be until pro modelling is a channel. But Cloud was vouched for m3 but went back to m1
the point was that you wouldnt be able to access the channel
idgaf if you can model or not
and again i still dont understand why you're still arguing this when the idea isn't getting added
yet again
not what i just said at all
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just remembered i'm arguing with the guy who wanted nsfw in a roblox server ๐คฆ
yet again
not even remotely close to what i just said
"you're the one who wanted nsfw in a roblox server"
"you argued with everyone here"
Theres no need to continue this argument,
sounds as relevant to this idea as you are

so let me get this straight
your idea didn't get added -> attack the person who went against the idea
If we can have channels like cooking we can have channels like pro modelling end of story โ ๏ธ And ur against the idea bc ur a hater.
yeah cooking is also a dumb channel that shouldn't exist
lets not forget that we have furry rp channel
but apparently i hate chefs now because i went against the cooking channel ๐คฆ
actually nvm it's pretty nice channel to have
Can you clarify your response? It seems like you're talking to somebody besides the person that submitted the idea but the contents of your message suggests otherwise
pissnames don't have access to it

be better
'your idea' as in the one they were defending
change your vote to a 
Actually the cause is this server being like 97% kids and basically kids
furry rp changes the mankind
also vote this up: #๐๏ธฑemoji-and-stickers message
the fact that this thread has 400 responses โ ๏ธ
** You are now Level 38! **
more active than #โ๏ธ๏ธฑ2d-art
all of us
Clothing should join modeling atp its just texturing with extra steps โ ๏ธ
clothing is practically getting deprecated with these new like
it's literally handpainting but on uv map
3d clothing things
3D clothing goes under modelling, I checked
u cant get a clothing rank for it โ ๏ธ
yeah just merge clothing channel
with some manipulations it's possible to to make roblox clothing by handpainting in 3dcoat
it's kinda sad, they should add retexturing 3d clothes a la old clothing
i dont think i've ever met a C1-C4
i did
all of them
i think c4s left though
but 3D clothing on its own is enough reason to give modelling its own pro channel- clothing isnt easy โ ๏ธ
And there arent many people that actively do it
just like substance designer for example, very complicated and advanced software
mostly because UGC is still closed. I bet it blows up once they open the program
True, but its still quite a challenge on its own that I dont think an M1 could do
eh i wish the roblox moderation was better and the ugc applications were still better, this way catalog would be clean and only actually skilled modelers would get there. and there would be no need for public ugc
whether u did it in blender or marvelous โ ๏ธ
afaik it's approved people right now
didnt they close applications too?
goes for everything on roblox
honestly moderation scares the crap out of me every time I see posts about it on dev forums
people design cash grabs catered towards kids
the whole skibidi trend, grimace etc
every roblox category will always have people making those kids content for money
80% of modellers in here do stuff mostly outside of roblox โ ๏ธ ik i personally only like this server bc its popular and bc the bar is in hell
their bots catch all kinds of innocent things then your appeal gets automatically rejected by bots (or people with no incentive to do more than paste a rejection reply) and you're just screwed
i said if moderation was better, some meme stuff would be cool aswell though.
so far I haven't had anything rejected but it's pretty scary
goes for every role i think
(besides clothing lmfao)
GFX maybe
Scripting definitely
building, gui, effects, no
and animation i doubt unless its A3+
And tbh when it comes to scripting the bar is still in hell so im unsure ab that
A1 and 2 is just walking animations โ ๏ธ
nor can i but we move โ ๏ธ
i can make a snowman animation, let me show you guys
amphetamines will do that
what i got a1 with ignore the robuilder style i had 24 hours โ ๏ธ
its all cubes bro โ ๏ธ
i believe you โ ๏ธ
that's how cubes are born
LMAOO
you know your a meanie >:(
also your in the group so your included as a clown too
he called the rsc community clowns
so true
those mf still want their nsfw channel
why do you call us mf
๐ฅบ
If you aren't happy about our suggestion, go cry about it
im crying about it rn
good
I can't resist sending the gif
sorryy
fr!
wait lemme screenshot that message rq
@whole ibex
๐ค
"stay mad" says the guy whos crying for 2 weeks because he wants a shitty ass channel in a shitty ass server to be added
pro modelling will never be added because its pointless
stop pinging me pls
it does 1 week, not 2
when you're quitting this, I will, this suggestion is none of your buisness, you're not even a modeler
don't say anything else
and I will stop pinging you
:D
even help channels and stuff
i dont get the issue with this, just make a new channel for pro modelling, if nobody uses it who cares it doesnt really have aby possible negitive outcome
pro scripting is useful for many reasons, math too, birthday is useless, merit is for information about how to get merit, clothing is a skill
"help channels are useless"
they are
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^
๐ค โ๏ธ
because i have nothing to do in my life
exactly, go outside
why you keep talking here if you're not modeler
because i keep telling you you wont get your channel
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ok cool, nice opinion
laughing lonely
aight bye for real this time
ur a hater ๐ญ
no
everyones just beating a dead horse
none of the ppl who disliked the idea are modelers- almsot like yall are haters โ ๏ธ
well obviously all the modelers are gonna agree
even the m1s? โ ๏ธ
apparently
oh my god no way, the modellers are the people who agree with a decision that is directly related to them????????????????????

sorry bub this is a modelers only chat
you are not a modeller stfu
i may not be a modeller
but i am a modeler
i actually made god of war
so
yeah
pretty big in the community
why are you still talking in the modelers only channel
no this is the modelers only channel
only for modelers
if you're not a modeler you have no say
is "mute kej" a valid server suggestion? ๐ค
i agree
should be
^^^frfr
yesss!!
this channel is more active than #โ๏ธ๏ธฑ2d-art
I'm a fake m1, trust (no, not really)
LMAO
Modeler YAP ๐ฃ๏ธ
A game without a scripter is called a SHOWCASE ๐ฅ
i rather play showcase then ๐ฅ
quit roblox then bye ๐ฅ
scripting is the skill people pick when they realize modeling is too hard ๐คท
useless skill that doesn't matter outside of just roblox
I can model and script

Ur modeling software is made with scripting
before modeling there were x86 ASM
not with luau
doesnt matter, scripting isnt that different
keep crying and have fun being stuck in roblox
I moved onto godot 4 LOL
nah id win
i personally wouldn't play a game that is made out of models like this
nah jokes aside, scripting is mostly easier than modeling
most of the time
modeling requires constant practice and a lot of experience
fr though
Sorry, but no
The only reason we have channels like #1020374354867007528 and #๐๏ธฑpro-scripting is because it's the most popular form of game development within RSC
(for reference, there are roughly twice as many scripters as there are modellers)
We don't need more unnecessary channels to clutter RSC even more, and if we add a pro modelling channel we'll have to add pro channels for all the major game development skill roles, which is more to moderate and even more clutter
I dont think a single extra modelling channel will really make much difference to clutter 
It's accumulative. That's the reason why we already have so much clutter
"One more channel won't hurt"
And now we have this, where I can barely find general half the time
well if thats the case then its too late so might as well keep going 
Either way, definitely not happening, so don't get your hopes up

I think this only really applies to modelling out of the non scripting channels as well
like most of the other ones dont really have an actuall difference between the bad and good other than the quality, but with modelling there are like lots of things and even skills that are only for more skilled people
The fact that there is already clutter is a terrible argument to add more clutter.. also I agree that the clutter should be reduced
Also I don't really want to repeat myself with this so I'm just gonna take a screenshot
yeah like, a b1 does pretty much the same thing as a b4, but a m4 will use like totaly different techniques to an m1
This is so far from true. I will list skill roles that have this exact same quality:
#๐จ๏ธฑbuilding
#๐ฑ๏ธฑgui
#๐๏ธฑanimating
#๐จ๏ธฑgfx
#๐น๏ธฑsfx
#โจ๏ธฑvfx
#โ๏ธ๏ธฑ2d-art
dont include clothing ๐
You clearly know jack shit about building if you genuinely believe this then
Have you seen the difference between C1 and C4?
It's insane
And has just as much artistic touch, stylization and variation as modelling
You're just blind trying to prove your point
Sorry, but it's true
thats not my point 
Yes, it's for developers that make Roblox clothing (I'm not really too sure why we have that lma)
Clearly is.
You think modelling is so special when it's not
its is though, its so much more diverse than most other skills
The only reason scripting has these channels is because it's the most popular, not because it's quirky
It's really not lmao
its is 
We'll just sit here going in circles, but I'm just going to sit and repeat everything in here because this is exactly what management is going to say to you
I didn't say that at all, don't twist my words to win your argument
It's pathetic
I said "this exact same quality" as in they're just as diverse.
Don't cut out the context
ok but their not?
Are you guys going to do this shit during this entire argument?
Just twisting my words to try and win this as if it ever had a chance at being accepted?
why you being so hostile what do you have against modelling 
just at least be open minded
My point is you're the one not being open-minded here. You think modelling is so special because you know nothing about the gaps between any of the other skill roles
Modelling is not that special, and again it's not getting a pro channel for these exact reasons
I have nothing against modelling, I'd say this about any other skill role if its members were saying this
Dude, can you stop brining that up? I'm sorry but it's a shit argument
Just because RSC has clutter doesn't mean we should add more clutter. That's basically Big Oil at this point
"The planet is fucked anyways, might as well profit" headass
what wrong with just one channel though
Yeah mate let me just remove channels without consulting management at all
what harm does it do
I swear on my life I've already explained this
You guys aren't listening to a word I'm saying are you?
You just said remove the channels lmao
That's exactly what you said
yeah but you explained it badly 
what is the actuall problem
I'm so over this argument
so we win?????
You guys clearly have no idea how to have a discussion at all, it's baffling
I give up explaining to you why this isn't getting implemented
You can call that a win if you want
you clearly never even considered what we said to begin with 
thank you I will
I've considered everything you guys have said, and I've replied to everything with exactly why that doesn't work
You guys just clearly haven't listened to a word I've said
Sorry but goodbye
but most of the answers are just vague and you keep going on about how other skills are the same as modelling yet you have yet to go into any detail as to why that it the case?
Honestly weird how you call people lil bro in arguments
Especially when you're not older than me lmao
Christ
We're raising this generation wrong
you just avoided the question again???????
HOW are they all the same??
Because they all share this quality mate
how does building have that
And either way, I'll say it again for you, it doesn't matter how quirky, special or unique you think modelling is, it's not getting a pro channel. The only reason scripting has a pro channel is because it's the most popular and has the most members
How did you even get your builder rank
doesnt turn this into personal insults yet we havent got there yet
i think
idk
anyway
how
Have you not seen the different techniques and styles builders use?
yes there are styles and techniques but not nearly the same way as modelling
It's not a personal insult, I'm just surprised you have B2 if you're using exactly the same methods and techniques a B1 uses
And we're back to this. Again not listening to a word I'm saying
yes thats the thing, you can. I could probably go and get b3 using the same techniques, just improved versions of them
I'm beyond over this conversation for the third time, so I'm just gonna say scroll up and re-read everything I've said if you still have questions
I'm gonna go actually reply to other suggestions
and you still never answerd the question ๐
he never actually answered the question he just kept referring back to his very vague statements 

How is it remotely vague
What don't you understand bro ๐ญ
oh you back
I got pinged
Doesn't matter how they're all the same, ignore that I said that. The reason this isn't happening is because there's already too much clutter and we don't need any more, and the only reason it happened to scripting is because it has twice as many members as modelling, and over double for every other skill role
You're an adult calling people "lil bro" on the internet comparing ages?
That's mildly embarassing, not gonna lie
pro scripting has been around for 3 years though, there were probably less scripters then than there are modellers now?
What do you mean? If you're talking about twice as many scripters I literally checked today lmao
Clown emoji coming from a 20-year-old picking on minors in a Roblox development server
The irony
Lmfao
thats not what I meant?, I mean that pro scripting was added when there were probably a lot less scripters than there are modellers now, so if its about the number of people why is this
My wifi went out
Ignore that one
Ah the old "two wrongs make a right" blame shifting
So you're allowed to pick on little kids in a Roblox development server because people older than you do it too?
Crazy
yes that makes sense
There has always been more scripters than modellers. You making up statistics isn't gonna change anything
Go tell that to galileo galilei
I mean that back then there where like 1/5th of the current members so it is very likely that the numbers of the scripters then is less than the numbers of modellers now
What? You're still wrong lmfao
You saying "yeah if a lot of people disagree with your points you're probably wrong" is a terrible argument and is p much what happened to galileo galilei
I didn't twist your words at all, I pointed out your bad argument
Myeah that's what I thought
It's okay though
it is a really good argument, of course there are exceptions but like 90% if most people disagree with you, you are wrong
I suggest the route of "learning from history" for you too
Go read the story of Galileo
Because this idea of "if the majority disagree you're wrong" is a terrible argument, and is the kind of shit Nazis used to indoctrinate their youth
this isnt the 16th century though
, things have changed
of course not all the time
but mostly
Clearly not if you still believe that's a valid argument..
No..
so if most people agree with you it is more likely that you are wrong?
wtf
that makes no sense
If you won't hear out someone's argument and keep a closed mind (which you told me not to do) just because a lot of people disagree with them, you're not better than those in the 16th century
Mate.
Had to look it up because I forgot the word lmao
So this is a false dichotomy, where you're pretending like there are only two options when there are actually more.
Just because you're not right because a lot of people agree with you, doesn't mean you're wrong when a lot of people agree with you. They might all be right, or they might all be wrong.
So when I tell you that just because everyone agrees with you doesn't make you right, that doesn't mean that just because everyone agrees with you makes you wrong
I don't even know why I'm here explaining logical fallacies to you, you clearly don't listen lmao
people want it
Too bad
too much text, just add pro modeling, i am tired of pissnames with high ego with skills of robuilder
If the people want mass murder, should we do it just because the people want it?
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wtf
If you say yes, you're clearly braindead
Omg i gotta suggest that
if people want equal right should we do it just because people want it?, stupid argument
I'm saying it's a bad decision, and just because everyone wants it doesn't make it less bad
"equal right" is crazy ๐ญ
You're clearly too deluded to listen to anybody's arguments
Explains why everything I've said here has gone straight out the other ear
You know what, I just realized something
lets just remove all the clutter and no complains are gonna be made, just remove #๐งฎ๏ธฑmath #1180463954720456714 #๐ ๏ธฑcool-chat #๐๏ธฑpro-scripting #1078094819097854016
There are more builders than modellers. It's the second most popular role
So we'll be adding pro-building
Sorry guys, get more popular
we're better than young robuilders ๐ฅฑ
I completely agree, the clutter in RSC should be reduced entirely, and worthless channels should be removed. That also means that unnecessary channels shouldn't be added, like pro-modelling
this was never about popularity of it
it was about complexity
well when the worthless channels get removed the arguing will stop
until then it won't
yapping will remain
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It's never been about complexity
It's always been about popularity
That's why #๐๏ธฑpro-scripting exists
But you wouldn't know that because you haven't been listening to anything I've been saying
btw about this, even though there are more builders, the modeling channel is much more active
the whole point of that is the word PRO, not just extra scripting, PRO scripting for people to talk about more complex things, if it wasnt about complexity why would there be a role restriction on it?
That's not the reason it was added though
You'd know that, if you listened toa word I've said
so? why is that an issue, why dont we just forget that pro scripting even exists then, what is wrong with having pro modelling channel
I love how, once again, you haven't listened to a word I've said
You've made this conversation unbearable
Thanks jimmio
I have listened but you just havent made any good points
jimmi is a pretend modeler
Too much clutter lad
he wants pro modeling even though he is not a modeler
no we are meant to be on the same side here
i am against everyone
I've said it 5 or 6 times
i am on my own
ok, so people cant just disable it if they dont want it?
or we can just remove another much less used clutter channel
this will never be added, and if it ever is management was probably either high or drunk
I'm so happy seeing how braindead the modelling community is, thank you guys for enlightening me
why do you speak of this like it is so awful, yet the only reason you have given is clutter? whats so awful about a little more clutter that hardley affects anyone, when there are far less used pointless channels that exist as well
Holy shit jimmi
shut up noob
I've already answered this question 3 times, once with a real-world example
Real.
I'm never getting into a discussion with a modeller ever again
clutter is the only answer you gave, I Think you might have said more moderation as well but im not sure
we are just better
And I'm beyond over it
"Not sure"
Of course you aren't sure
You haven't listened to a word I've said
I even explained why the clutter is such a problem
And I also explained why jsut one more channel won't work
yes but they are bad reasons
If you say anything now that I've already answered
I'm leaving
Like genuinely
I'm just gonna give up on you
ok so we get pro-modelling????
pls more yap with us
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You're hopeless
one channel wont kill the server
he is a builder
Yeah you're beyond hopeless
obv he is
Goodbye
it was not
he said he gave up
preach ๐
LOL
i agree with father grunk
Cloud has a point tho- Modeling might not have as many ppl as the role but the channel can be just as active as #๐๏ธฑscripting , unlike the other dev channels which are not nearly as active. And there are a lot of piss names that are modelers but dont bother with the role because they don't need to, so the numbers on members might not be the best representation of how popular modeling is. The other roles should be able to get their pro channels if theyre ever that active
I understand that, but as I've already said the only reason we have #1020374354867007528 and #๐๏ธฑpro-scripting is because they are the most popular form of game development in RSC, and in general on Roblox to my knowledge. Unless something happens, they are the only exception
come back when you can match the builds by @still burrow much less a b4
the whole point is that it stays the same, my skill doesnt matter, i know enough about building to be able to know that
also you a scripter why do you care
for reference #๐ง๏ธฑmodeling has ~725k messages sent (716,795 atm)
#๐๏ธฑscripting alone has ~2.25M messages sent (2,243,266) & that's not including
#๐๏ธฑpro-scripting adds another ~300k (299,592)
not even including the scripting help channels (which adds about another 1.7M messages) scripting has a wayyy larger number of people using them so it makes sense to have channels divided there
it's silly to think roles on this server completely define anybody
last #๐ง๏ธฑmodeling message was 30 mins ago
last #๐๏ธฑscripting message was 3 mins ago
๐คทโโ๏ธ
how does that make sense
the server isn't dead right now #๐ง๏ธฑmodeling is
i hear you
but there are people talking in other channels right now so that just doesn't have any effect on it
if every channel was dead for half an hour it'd make sense
#๐๏ธฑscripting after 2023-09-01: 517,266
#๐ง๏ธฑmodeling after 2023-09-01: 141,910
also modelers wouldn't have different sleep schedules than scripters lmfao
scripting is nearly 5x more active
hence the #๐๏ธฑpro-scripting channel?
what's making it unfair โ๏ธ
what
.
that's what this is
yes and im saying scripting is 5x more active
which is why they have a #๐๏ธฑpro-scripting channel aswell
but being active isn't enough, it needs to be too active
@wise wagon
yes I saw
you're not really giving us anything to change our minds with
just saying "modeling is active so it needs another channel" isn't really convincing
986 MESSAGES WTF
i can't find any real arguments
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lmfao
986 messages, 0 valid reasons to add pro modeling ๐
@swift prism them
comparing from the past two weeks (from the 26th of last month until today) its 34k in scripting and 22k in modelling.
to put that in comparison, building in the same time frame only had 2k, gfx 640. animating had 6k, clothing had 150, and sfx had 621.
to put this into even further perspective. the scripting channel had only 200-500 messages per day when the pro scripting channel was new (Late Feb 2021)
Modeling is literally twice as active as scripting was when it got a pro scripting channel.
@tribal pond since you're here and idk who to ask, pls give your honest opinion overall (still not finished but almost)
looking good but the fabric scraps are missing depth
I try to draw the runes
i like it
most supportive modeler in #๐ง๏ธฑmodeling
๐คทโโ๏ธ
so scripting is still 1.33... more active
and does this count #๐๏ธฑpro-scripting #๐๏ธฑscripting-help-classic #1020374354867007528 ?
im supportive
trust
anyway I will finish tomorrow
gn everyone
Did #1020374354867007528 and #๐๏ธฑscripting-help-classic exist at that time?
doesnt matter, its still active enough to warrant its own channel
it matters to mods, apparently. or grunk, at least
is it though
#๐๏ธฑscripting-help-classic s last message was in 2018 it looks like, and #1020374354867007528 's first message was in 2022, so during the week when pro scripting was made, no.
wait mb discord bugged
52,337 calculating all 4 scripting channels
after december 26th
so more than double #๐ง๏ธฑmodeling 's
doesnt matter, we're more active now than scripting was when they got a pro channel
Yes โ๏ธ because if there was only 1 scripting one they'd all be in that one ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
no one is denying that scripting is the most popular skill, but that doesnt mean modelling is inactive in comparison โ ๏ธ the rest of the skill roles (exc. scripting) combined still wouldnt add up to modelings activity.
the server is also much larger than it was then
now there's more moderaters
"4 scripting channels are more active than the 1 modeling channel" no shit
the mark apparently moved since pro scripting was made
but being active doesn't warrant a new channel
but thats why #๐๏ธฑpro-scripting was made
โ ๏ธ
server suggestion, lock all the piss names away to one channel โ ๏ธ
go to a pro blender discord server
roblox scripters cant
but modelers actually can
the literal statistics i've been putting in this channel for the past hour ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
roblox code is different from lua
roblox scripters are using robloxs api to create things
and we have no other server than this one
but im sure theres plenty of blender servers
for pros
luau is different from roblox api
2x is not "almost"
if your piss is orange you should probably get that checked out
Cuz you guys yap more than needed

and when it comes to discussing all the issues with layered clothing and making assets under roblox's guidelines? Or making PBR materials that are usable in Roblox? Blender is a massive tool and not the only one used for making roblox assets.
colorblind
use #๐ง๏ธฑmodeling channel
anyone can script, not everyone can model
pbr texture isnt that pro
yeah and thats EXACTLY why #๐๏ธฑpro-scripting exists
its flooded with m0.5s asking how to model because they found scripting too hard (they're failing at both miserably)
to keep the noobs out
we still get noobs fool
scripting is just a skill people pick when they realize modeling is too hard ๐คท
useless skill that doesnโt matter outside of just roblox
same for models so we need pro modelling bro โ ๏ธ
goofy ass argument
yall still yapping
lol
mods literally said this isn't happening these guys are just ready to die on that hill
this is what i mean when i say not everyone can model, doesn't mean u still didnt post in the channel โ ๏ธ
โ ๏ธ โ ๏ธ โ ๏ธ
obviously a troll image but ok
average 2 iq modeler
i copied this ass tree made in 1 minute
u just a prime example of why we need a pro channel โ ๏ธ
to make this one
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๐คก
procedurally generated planet
only with nodes
because modeling is boring and nodes better ๐ฅ
yeah
make it if its that simple
a real pro would've made it in designer
Yup scripters are boring asf ๐ฅฑ
keep in mind min not a modeler at all and i made this
tutorials be like
I mean you didnโt model anything there, so obviously youโre not a modeller
?
gives them something to do since modeling is so easy you can do it with your feet
if i really try hard i can do this in a month
then do it
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editing is just for people that cant model
i know what u meant bro
i just dont find modeling appealing
anyone can edit a video โ ๏ธ
but if i really tryharded modelling i can do this in a month
not a good video
send ur best
Anyone can like legit
Je vous prรฉsente comment faire un TELEPORTEUR sur ROBLOX STUDIO #robloxstudio #roblox
im sorry you're french bro.
scripting tutorial in french ๐ฅ
What could be worse 
and i fr started editing 3 days ago because i really like this
stfu
fermez vos gueules je vous dรฉteste
its just tiktok capcut editing style
So mad that forgot English
swear u can do the captions with ai now too ๐ญ
yea thats how shorts work
people who use tiktok have 0 attention span
so you gotta keep them on ur video
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