#๐Ÿ’ก Pro modeler channel

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drifting hedgeBOT
lapis dome
tribal pond
lapis dome
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yeah but what does gatekeeping them do

devout oyster
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fr we need to get rid of all those builders and yellow names flooding modelling ๐Ÿ’€

tribal pond
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exactly

lapis dome
warped narwhal
lapis dome
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because modeling doesn't have that stuff

warped narwhal
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why do you think so?

lapis dome
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what does modeling have that a beginner couldn't have a decent grasp on enough to be in the conversation

warped narwhal
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many things

lapis dome
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right

warped narwhal
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advanced techniques for shading(changing vertex normals etc) more advanced softwares for texturing and other stuff(just like substance designer, all the advanced techniques to make tileable complicated textures). Good understanding of topology, it would take alot of time for beginners to understand how to optimize and use different techniques to make the topology good and have perfect shading. Texturing has tons of stuff that is abit too advanced for a newbie to handle. and there is so much more

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modeling isn't just extruding

lapis dome
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yeah but a beginner can have a conversation with all these things

warped narwhal
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and gradient colors

lapis dome
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they don't have to be individually good at it to hold a conversation about stuff like shading

warped narwhal
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i've seen alot of newbies get confused alot by these

warped narwhal
lapis dome
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as someone who doesn't model
i know what these are though

warped narwhal
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also texturing itself, it's crazy how many advanced techniques there are that newbies just won't understand. Alot of advanced workflows to achieve different results

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and explaining all that shit to robuilder fans is annoying since they just won't understand without having already some knowledge on the stuff

lapis dome
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you don't have to explain it to them

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if they understand texturing in general they would have enough knowledge to understand what's going on

warped narwhal
lapis dome
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i dont think you understand

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their individual skill isn't going to define if they can use the channel or not

warped narwhal
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what?

frank temple
tribal pond
frank temple
tribal pond
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Maybe blender just isnt for u bro โ˜ ๏ธ

frank temple
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can you show me a picture of someone's work that you think is m1 quality

tribal pond
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You don't have to texture or have good topo for m1

frank temple
tribal pond
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smth like this I could imagine being vouched m1

frank temple
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i think i made this off a tutorial, this screenshot doesnt do it enough justice but there's modifiers to mirror the sword over, to make the middle of the blade cave in, and on the end of the handle to make the oval shaped thing. There's probably more modifiers but i don't remember because i made this back in april

tribal pond
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(not mine)

tribal pond
frank temple
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and i did get a vouch for it

tribal pond
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Well whoever did was tweaking- its always been a rule that you cant be vouched for tutorial work as it doesnt show your own skill, just your ability to follow a tutorial.

frank temple
tribal pond
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But that model if it was your own work couldve been mid-high m1, if the textures were a little cleaner it couldve been very low m2

frank temple
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ok, agree to disagree ig, i just think blender is different from s1 because with s1 you can mindlessly write down the same script as someone else so tutorials shouldn't be allowed

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just my thoughts

tribal pond
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I don't think that you can

frank temple
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oh mb i worded it wrong

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im saying you shouldnt be able to get vouched for s1 by following a tutorial

tribal pond
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Yeah you shouldnt

frank temple
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because you can really just copy paste or write down the exact same thing as in the tutorial without understanding it

tribal pond
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that being said script rankers can tell when you've just used a tutorial

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which isnt always the case with modelers unless they have seen the tutorial themselves

tribal pond
devout oyster
warped narwhal
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@lapis dome heres what i have to say on why there should be pro modeling channel

lapis dome
tribal pond
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And when they do have knoweledge about texturing its not hand painted or uses PBR

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Its usually that robuilder shit where they just use gradients ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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It must be everyday that someone asks how to fix their model with crap normals or how to take their mesh theyve coloured with materials into roblox โ˜ ๏ธ

warped narwhal
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don't mind him

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his opinion doesn't matter since he doesn't even know how to model

tribal pond
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โ˜ ๏ธ

sweet escarp
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dead channel trollgarlic

sweet escarp
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(totally not trying to make a prognostic).... anyways, if you are going to create pro-modeling (since there's #๐Ÿ“œ๏ธฑpro-scripting ) might as well create a pro channel for the myriad of ranks out there

every topic can be advanced in some way, not just modeling and scripting

warped narwhal
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just remove pro scripting and all gonna be good

meager lark
sweet escarp
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removing pro-scripting will not solve the problem ๐Ÿ’€

warped narwhal
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it will

lapis dome
warped narwhal
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since you don't model

lapis dome
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how does pro modeling benefit the modeling community

warped narwhal
lapis dome
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right

warped narwhal
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keep hating

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noob

lapis dome
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"how would this help"
"it would"

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wait @sweet escarp was it always gigtih

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swear it was gigith

warped narwhal
warped narwhal
lapis dome
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lol

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modeling just doesnt have as big of a skill gap then scripting does

warped narwhal
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tf are you talking about ๐Ÿ˜ญ

lapis dome
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smartest modeler:

warped narwhal
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you're just a hater

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or stupid

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one of those

lapis dome
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"i want pro modeling because i want to feel cool"

warped narwhal
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bruh what

lapis dome
warped narwhal
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i don't even understand what you want, you're arguing for no damn reason. and you don't even know shit about modeling and say that it doesn't have a big skill gap or whatever

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go script some brains

meager lark
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why is jimmi muted

warped narwhal
meager lark
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ohh

tribal pond
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Modeling is fairly active for its size

warped narwhal
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this is @lapis dome spending 10 hours on this model and then giving up and hating on modeling since

lapis dome
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why the fuck would we not be talking about this server locally derp

lapis dome
warped narwhal
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๐Ÿ˜†

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๐Ÿคฃ

lapis dome
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i dont even use luau

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lolcano

warped narwhal
lapis dome
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average rsc argument experience:
lose argument -> insult other person because your point was invalid

warped narwhal
lapis dome
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the density in the modeling community is astounding

lapis dome
warped narwhal
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also it isn't the server that would benefit but the modelers

lapis dome
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why are you asking me i didnt make the channel

lapis dome
warped narwhal
lapis dome
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you just want the power of being able to access a channel that others cant

warped narwhal
lapis dome
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if you made a pro modeling channel, then one of them would just die

warped narwhal
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no?

lapis dome
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those people are not the brightest in the world

warped narwhal
warped narwhal
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lmfao

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you're just trolling at this point

warped narwhal
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just forget about him, he just wants to argue, since he has no skills and just envies us

lapis dome
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a great argument considering i don't even post my work in here ๐Ÿ‘

warped narwhal
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bro probably tried donut tutorial and rage quitted at ep 1 ๐Ÿ’€

lapis dome
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another outlandish take with 0 platform to stand on ๐Ÿ’€

warped narwhal
lapis dome
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don't act like you don't have a massive ego when this conversation started with you wanting to gatekeep newer modelers ๐Ÿ’€

warped narwhal
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stop arguing for no reason

lapis dome
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we're both arguing for no reason

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the idea isn't getting added

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๐Ÿ’€

warped narwhal
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did modeling give you a trauma or something

lapis dome
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no
this is just a dumb idea lol

warped narwhal
lapis dome
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i'm not obsessed you just keep responding lol

warped narwhal
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you won't even touch modeling or anything modeling related, why would it bother you

warped narwhal
lapis dome
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i just said that it would provide 0 value to the server

warped narwhal
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that's just straight up stupidity

lapis dome
warped narwhal
lapis dome
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this is what i mean ๐Ÿ’€

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you just go back to irrelevant points

warped narwhal
lapis dome
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have you done anything with modeling outside of roblox?

warped narwhal
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i am an envirnmental artist, i use unreal engine

lapis dome
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yes

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did you draw the speech bubble

fresh pivot
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who said that I made it

warped narwhal
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it was a stupid statement that you said that it's a useless skill limited to roblox only

fresh pivot
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especially when kej knows nothing about modeling and we do

lapis dome
warped narwhal
fresh pivot
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also im m2, trust trust

lapis dome
warped narwhal
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lowpoly oversaturated gradient simulator styled models for life ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ

lapis dome
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and so we need to make a channel to segregate the m1s from the m2s

fresh pivot
lapis dome
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i'm sorry i dont religiously use a roblox server

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my fault

fresh pivot
lapis dome
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piss name > m1

fresh pivot
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go apply for m1

lapis dome
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apparently m1 is 'free to get'

fresh pivot
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if you have the skills required

fresh pivot
lapis dome
tribal pond
fresh pivot
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exactly

tribal pond
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stop trolling

lapis dome
fresh pivot
lapis dome
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"you don't have the role so you can't do it"

fresh pivot
lapis dome
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i've never seen people get so upset over actually nothing

tribal pond
fresh pivot
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why is blud so mad about us getting a channel

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๐Ÿ’€

tribal pond
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Fr

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Least annoying scripter ๐Ÿ˜ญ

warped narwhal
fresh pivot
wary remnant
fresh pivot
fresh pivot
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I think that I'm going to cry about it

lapis dome
fresh pivot
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im not upset, im trying to get the suggestion added

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๐Ÿง 

wary remnant
tribal pond
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I dont get why scripters hate the idea that 3D modelling is an actual skill?! like none of the ppl who disliked it have an mrank to begin with crying

lapis dome
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also you guys complain that i'm fighting against something that i wouldn't have access to
when literally half of you also aren't m2 so you wouldn't be able to use the channel ๐Ÿ’€

wary remnant
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oh well avarage luae scripter

tribal pond
lapis dome
wary remnant
lapis dome
wary remnant
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probably just some button for roblox simulator game is all you can script

fresh pivot
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๐Ÿ‘

lapis dome
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i feel sooooo attacked because of how much evidence you have to stand on that claim

tribal pond
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skibidi toilet tower defence ๐Ÿ˜ญ

lapis dome
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i don't have to prove anything to you lol

left snowBOT
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studio** You are now Level 17! **studio

warped narwhal
fresh pivot
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๐Ÿ˜ฎโ€๐Ÿ’จ

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whatever

warped narwhal
wary remnant
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apparently he thinks it's useless skill

fresh pivot
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I think we should all report kej, few hours mute would be cool

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๐Ÿ‘

warped narwhal
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don't take pissname freedom

lapis dome
warped narwhal
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of yapping

fresh pivot
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uh no

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harassement

warped narwhal
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how are you offended

fresh pivot
warped narwhal
fresh pivot
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im both

warped narwhal
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shows that you're a scripter

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right there

tribal pond
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Yall do not threaten to mass report a pissname

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!!!

fresh pivot
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anyway I'll go, gn

warped narwhal
lapis dome
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you are literally sitting here still driving the argument

fresh pivot
lapis dome
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lol

warped narwhal
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that's how

fresh pivot
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how did you hide it

warped narwhal
lapis dome
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another completely ballistic ad hominem attack with 0 evidence to stand on that claim

fresh pivot
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ok I'll go fr

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cya

warped narwhal
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photoshopped

lapis dome
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why would anyone be working at 7:30pm on a weekend during a holiday anyway the fuck!?

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i don't have to prove to you that i script

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it's not even relevant to the argument

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not the point but good try

warped narwhal
wary remnant
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^^

lapis dome
wary remnant
lapis dome
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but the suggestion is something that would only matter to m2+'s

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i believe that says m1

wary remnant
lapis dome
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i believe that says m1

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facepalm yet again not the point

wary remnant
tribal pond
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m1 is just the cool thing to be until pro modelling is a channel. But Cloud was vouched for m3 but went back to m1

lapis dome
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the point was that you wouldnt be able to access the channel

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idgaf if you can model or not

tribal pond
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U realise that would be an us problem

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๐Ÿ˜ญ bro hates modelers with his life

lapis dome
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and again i still dont understand why you're still arguing this when the idea isn't getting added

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yet again
not what i just said at all

tribal pond
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โ˜ ๏ธ

lapis dome
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just remembered i'm arguing with the guy who wanted nsfw in a roblox server ๐Ÿคฆ

lapis dome
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yet again
not even remotely close to what i just said

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"you're the one who wanted nsfw in a roblox server"
"you argued with everyone here"

tribal pond
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Theres no need to continue this argument,

wise wagon
tribal pond
lapis dome
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so let me get this straight
your idea didn't get added -> attack the person who went against the idea

tribal pond
lapis dome
warped narwhal
lapis dome
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but apparently i hate chefs now because i went against the cooking channel ๐Ÿคฆ

lapis dome
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WHERE

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WHERE

warped narwhal
wise wagon
warped narwhal
lapis dome
warped narwhal
lapis dome
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what must i do

warped narwhal
lapis dome
warped narwhal
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become a better perso

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person

lapis dome
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what must i do

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please rony

tribal pond
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change your vote to a upvote

wise wagon
lapis dome
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ok yes everyone lets make m2 channel pls

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still attacking me for no reason btw

warped narwhal
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furry rp changes the mankind

wise wagon
tribal pond
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the fact that this thread has 400 responses โ˜ ๏ธ

left snowBOT
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studio** You are now Level 38! **studio

lapis dome
warped narwhal
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not me

lapis dome
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all of us

tribal pond
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Clothing should join modeling atp its just texturing with extra steps โ˜ ๏ธ

wise wagon
lapis dome
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clothing is practically getting deprecated with these new like

warped narwhal
lapis dome
tribal pond
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3D clothing goes under modelling, I checked

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u cant get a clothing rank for it โ˜ ๏ธ

lapis dome
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yeah just merge clothing channel

warped narwhal
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with some manipulations it's possible to to make roblox clothing by handpainting in 3dcoat

wise wagon
warped narwhal
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so i don't really understand why clothing is a role lol

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but whatever

lapis dome
warped narwhal
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all of them

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i think c4s left though

tribal pond
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but 3D clothing on its own is enough reason to give modelling its own pro channel- clothing isnt easy โ˜ ๏ธ

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And there arent many people that actively do it

warped narwhal
wise wagon
tribal pond
warped narwhal
tribal pond
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whether u did it in blender or marvelous โ˜ ๏ธ

wise wagon
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afaik it's approved people right now

tribal pond
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didnt they close applications too?

lapis dome
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goes for everything on roblox

wise wagon
lapis dome
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people design cash grabs catered towards kids
the whole skibidi trend, grimace etc

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every roblox category will always have people making those kids content for money

tribal pond
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80% of modellers in here do stuff mostly outside of roblox โ˜ ๏ธ ik i personally only like this server bc its popular and bc the bar is in hell

wise wagon
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their bots catch all kinds of innocent things then your appeal gets automatically rejected by bots (or people with no incentive to do more than paste a rejection reply) and you're just screwed

warped narwhal
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i said if moderation was better, some meme stuff would be cool aswell though.

wise wagon
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so far I haven't had anything rejected but it's pretty scary

lapis dome
tribal pond
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GFX maybe

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Scripting definitely

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building, gui, effects, no

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and animation i doubt unless its A3+

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And tbh when it comes to scripting the bar is still in hell so im unsure ab that

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A1 and 2 is just walking animations โ˜ ๏ธ

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nor can i but we move โ˜ ๏ธ

warped narwhal
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i can make a snowman animation, let me show you guys

tribal pond
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I animate using like 50 cubes as constraints

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โ˜ ๏ธ

wise wagon
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amphetamines will do that

tribal pond
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its all cubes bro โ˜ ๏ธ

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i believe you โ˜ ๏ธ

warped narwhal
tribal pond
neat loom
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you know your a meanie >:(

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also your in the group so your included as a clown too

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he called the rsc community clowns

warped narwhal
whole ibex
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those mf still want their nsfw channel

fresh pivot
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๐Ÿฅบ

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If you aren't happy about our suggestion, go cry about it

whole ibex
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im crying about it rn

fresh pivot
whole ibex
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last time you guys asked for pro modelling was for nsfw

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and sending nipple models

fresh pivot
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@whole ibex

whole ibex
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๐Ÿค“

whole ibex
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"stay mad" says the guy whos crying for 2 weeks because he wants a shitty ass channel in a shitty ass server to be added

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pro modelling will never be added because its pointless

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stop pinging me pls

fresh pivot
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don't say anything else

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and I will stop pinging you

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:D

lapis dome
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grrrrrrr

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math isnt useless

fresh pivot
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even help channels and stuff

devout oyster
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i dont get the issue with this, just make a new channel for pro modelling, if nobody uses it who cares it doesnt really have aby possible negitive outcome

spring tree
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ao

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so

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do i go get my m3 or?

whole ibex
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pro scripting is useful for many reasons, math too, birthday is useless, merit is for information about how to get merit, clothing is a skill

whole ibex
fresh pivot
whole ibex
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โ˜ ๏ธ โ˜ ๏ธ โ˜ ๏ธ โ˜ ๏ธ โ˜ ๏ธ โ˜ ๏ธ โ˜ ๏ธ โ˜ ๏ธ โ˜ ๏ธ โ˜ ๏ธ

fresh pivot
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hey

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remember what I said

whole ibex
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LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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aight blud

fresh pivot
whole ibex
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๐Ÿค“ โ˜๏ธ

fresh pivot
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gtfo :D

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nobody wants you here, literally

whole ibex
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u wont even get access to pro modeling

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ok blud

fresh pivot
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I'm getting m2 soon

whole ibex
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๐Ÿ”ฅ

fresh pivot
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why is blud wasting his time on hating modelers

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so dumb

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orange pissname ๐Ÿคฎ

whole ibex
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because i have nothing to do in my life

fresh pivot
whole ibex
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no

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as i said i have nothing to do in my life

fresh pivot
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why you keep talking here if you're not modeler

fresh pivot
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remember that

whole ibex
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because i keep telling you you wont get your channel

whole ibex
fresh pivot
whole ibex
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lmfao those guys

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yall are so fucking funny

fresh pivot
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laughing lonely

whole ibex
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aight bye for real this time

devout oyster
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so we get pro modellingggg?????????????????

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why does this have 585 messages crying

lapis dome
devout oyster
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yes

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we need it

tribal pond
lapis dome
tribal pond
lapis dome
devout oyster
lapis dome
devout oyster
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you are not a modeller stfu

lapis dome
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i actually made god of war

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so

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yeah
pretty big in the community

devout oyster
lapis dome
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why are you still talking in the modelers only channel

devout oyster
lapis dome
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no this is the modelers only channel

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only for modelers

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if you're not a modeler you have no say

wise wagon
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is "mute kej" a valid server suggestion? ๐Ÿค”

frank temple
warped narwhal
wary remnant
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^^^frfr

leaden bolt
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yesss!!

ionic root
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twitter

warped narwhal
fresh pivot
lethal steeple
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modeler yap ๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ

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Scripter superior ๐Ÿ’ช

devout oyster
lethal steeple
lethal steeple
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A game without a scripter is called a SHOWCASE ๐Ÿ”ฅ

warped narwhal
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i rather play showcase then ๐Ÿ”ฅ

lethal steeple
warped narwhal
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useless skill that doesn't matter outside of just roblox

lethal steeple
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Ur modeling software is made with scripting

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before modeling there were x86 ASM

warped narwhal
lethal steeple
warped narwhal
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keep crying and have fun being stuck in roblox

lethal steeple
warped narwhal
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so bad

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scratch better

lethal steeple
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nah id win

warped narwhal
warped narwhal
lethal steeple
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nah jokes aside, scripting is mostly easier than modeling

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most of the time

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modeling requires constant practice and a lot of experience

dusky sonnet
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Sorry, but no

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(for reference, there are roughly twice as many scripters as there are modellers)

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We don't need more unnecessary channels to clutter RSC even more, and if we add a pro modelling channel we'll have to add pro channels for all the major game development skill roles, which is more to moderate and even more clutter

devout oyster
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I dont think a single extra modelling channel will really make much difference to clutter crying

dusky sonnet
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"One more channel won't hurt"

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And now we have this, where I can barely find general half the time

devout oyster
dusky sonnet
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Either way, definitely not happening, so don't get your hopes up

devout oyster
dusky sonnet
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LMFAO I love how the post above this literally talks about the clutter ๐Ÿ˜ญ

devout oyster
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I think this only really applies to modelling out of the non scripting channels as well

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like most of the other ones dont really have an actuall difference between the bad and good other than the quality, but with modelling there are like lots of things and even skills that are only for more skilled people

dusky sonnet
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The fact that there is already clutter is a terrible argument to add more clutter.. also I agree that the clutter should be reduced

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Also I don't really want to repeat myself with this so I'm just gonna take a screenshot

devout oyster
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yeah like, a b1 does pretty much the same thing as a b4, but a m4 will use like totaly different techniques to an m1

devout oyster
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dont include clothing ๐Ÿ’€

dusky sonnet
dusky sonnet
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It's insane

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And has just as much artistic touch, stylization and variation as modelling

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You're just blind trying to prove your point

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Sorry, but it's true

devout oyster
dusky sonnet
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Yes, it's for developers that make Roblox clothing (I'm not really too sure why we have that lma)

dusky sonnet
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You think modelling is so special when it's not

devout oyster
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its is though, its so much more diverse than most other skills

dusky sonnet
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The only reason scripting has these channels is because it's the most popular, not because it's quirky

dusky sonnet
devout oyster
dusky sonnet
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We'll just sit here going in circles, but I'm just going to sit and repeat everything in here because this is exactly what management is going to say to you

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I didn't say that at all, don't twist my words to win your argument

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It's pathetic

devout oyster
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whats wrong with just one single channel agony

dusky sonnet
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Don't cut out the context

devout oyster
dusky sonnet
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Are you guys going to do this shit during this entire argument?

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Just twisting my words to try and win this as if it ever had a chance at being accepted?

devout oyster
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why you being so hostile what do you have against modelling crying

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just at least be open minded

dusky sonnet
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Modelling is not that special, and again it's not getting a pro channel for these exact reasons

dusky sonnet
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Dude, can you stop brining that up? I'm sorry but it's a shit argument
Just because RSC has clutter doesn't mean we should add more clutter. That's basically Big Oil at this point

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"The planet is fucked anyways, might as well profit" headass

devout oyster
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what wrong with just one channel though

dusky sonnet
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Yeah mate let me just remove channels without consulting management at all

devout oyster
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what harm does it do

dusky sonnet
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You guys aren't listening to a word I'm saying are you?

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You just said remove the channels lmao

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That's exactly what you said

devout oyster
dusky sonnet
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I'm so over this argument

devout oyster
dusky sonnet
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You guys clearly have no idea how to have a discussion at all, it's baffling

dusky sonnet
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You can call that a win if you want

devout oyster
devout oyster
dusky sonnet
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You guys just clearly haven't listened to a word I've said

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Sorry but goodbye

devout oyster
dusky sonnet
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Honestly weird how you call people lil bro in arguments

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Especially when you're not older than me lmao

dusky sonnet
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Christ

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We're raising this generation wrong

devout oyster
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HOW are they all the same??

dusky sonnet
devout oyster
dusky sonnet
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And either way, I'll say it again for you, it doesn't matter how quirky, special or unique you think modelling is, it's not getting a pro channel. The only reason scripting has a pro channel is because it's the most popular and has the most members

dusky sonnet
devout oyster
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i think

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idk

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anyway

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how

dusky sonnet
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Have you not seen the different techniques and styles builders use?

devout oyster
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yes there are styles and techniques but not nearly the same way as modelling

dusky sonnet
dusky sonnet
devout oyster
dusky sonnet
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I'm beyond over this conversation for the third time, so I'm just gonna say scroll up and re-read everything I've said if you still have questions

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I'm gonna go actually reply to other suggestions

devout oyster
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and you still never answerd the question ๐Ÿ’€

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he never actually answered the question he just kept referring back to his very vague statements crying

dusky sonnet
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What don't you understand bro ๐Ÿ˜ญ

devout oyster
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oh you back

dusky sonnet
devout oyster
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tell me

dusky sonnet
# devout oyster how they are all the same <:crying:1085957307655000165>

Doesn't matter how they're all the same, ignore that I said that. The reason this isn't happening is because there's already too much clutter and we don't need any more, and the only reason it happened to scripting is because it has twice as many members as modelling, and over double for every other skill role

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You're an adult calling people "lil bro" on the internet comparing ages?

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That's mildly embarassing, not gonna lie

devout oyster
dusky sonnet
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Clown emoji coming from a 20-year-old picking on minors in a Roblox development server

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The irony

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Lmfao

devout oyster
dusky sonnet
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My wifi went out

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Ignore that one

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Ah the old "two wrongs make a right" blame shifting

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So you're allowed to pick on little kids in a Roblox development server because people older than you do it too?

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Crazy

dusky sonnet
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Go tell that to galileo galilei

devout oyster
dusky sonnet
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What? You're still wrong lmfao
You saying "yeah if a lot of people disagree with your points you're probably wrong" is a terrible argument and is p much what happened to galileo galilei

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I didn't twist your words at all, I pointed out your bad argument

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Myeah that's what I thought

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It's okay though

devout oyster
dusky sonnet
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We can stop

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I'm gonna continue an actual intelligent discussion with jimmi

devout oyster
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add it

dusky sonnet
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Go read the story of Galileo

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Because this idea of "if the majority disagree you're wrong" is a terrible argument, and is the kind of shit Nazis used to indoctrinate their youth

devout oyster
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of course not all the time

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but mostly

dusky sonnet
dusky sonnet
devout oyster
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wtf

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that makes no sense

dusky sonnet
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If you won't hear out someone's argument and keep a closed mind (which you told me not to do) just because a lot of people disagree with them, you're not better than those in the 16th century

dusky sonnet
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Had to look it up because I forgot the word lmao

dusky sonnet
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So when I tell you that just because everyone agrees with you doesn't make you right, that doesn't mean that just because everyone agrees with you makes you wrong

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I don't even know why I'm here explaining logical fallacies to you, you clearly don't listen lmao

devout oyster
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what

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idk what those words mean

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but

devout oyster
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people want it

dusky sonnet
warped narwhal
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too much text, just add pro modeling, i am tired of pissnames with high ego with skills of robuilder

dusky sonnet
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If the people want mass murder, should we do it just because the people want it?

dusky sonnet
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If you say yes, you're clearly braindead

devout oyster
dusky sonnet
# devout oyster wtf

I'm saying it's a bad decision, and just because everyone wants it doesn't make it less bad

dusky sonnet
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You're clearly too deluded to listen to anybody's arguments

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Explains why everything I've said here has gone straight out the other ear

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You know what, I just realized something

warped narwhal
dusky sonnet
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There are more builders than modellers. It's the second most popular role

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So we'll be adding pro-building

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Sorry guys, get more popular

warped narwhal
dusky sonnet
devout oyster
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it was about complexity

warped narwhal
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well when the worthless channels get removed the arguing will stop

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until then it won't

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yapping will remain

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๐Ÿ”ฅ

dusky sonnet
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It's always been about popularity

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But you wouldn't know that because you haven't been listening to anything I've been saying

warped narwhal
devout oyster
dusky sonnet
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You'd know that, if you listened toa word I've said

devout oyster
warped narwhal
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guys

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i got good suggestion

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let's delete rsc

dusky sonnet
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You've made this conversation unbearable

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Thanks jimmio

devout oyster
warped narwhal
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jimmi is a pretend modeler

warped narwhal
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he wants pro modeling even though he is not a modeler

devout oyster
dusky sonnet
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Get it through your thick skull

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I beg

warped narwhal
dusky sonnet
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I've said it 5 or 6 times

warped narwhal
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i am on my own

dusky sonnet
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I'm over you

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I'm over it

devout oyster
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or we can just remove another much less used clutter channel

dusky sonnet
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this will never be added, and if it ever is management was probably either high or drunk

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I'm so happy seeing how braindead the modelling community is, thank you guys for enlightening me

warped narwhal
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i will drug the managment, and make them drunk too

devout oyster
dusky sonnet
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I've already answered this question 3 times, once with a real-world example

warped narwhal
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i am not braindead

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you are

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๐Ÿ–•

dusky sonnet
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I'm never getting into a discussion with a modeller ever again

devout oyster
dusky sonnet
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This is unironically apinful

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I've repeated myself 8 times

warped narwhal
dusky sonnet
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And I'm beyond over it

dusky sonnet
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Of course you aren't sure

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You haven't listened to a word I've said

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I even explained why the clutter is such a problem

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And I also explained why jsut one more channel won't work

devout oyster
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yes but they are bad reasons

dusky sonnet
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If you say anything now that I've already answered

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I'm leaving

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Like genuinely

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I'm just gonna give up on you

devout oyster
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ok so we get pro-modelling????

warped narwhal
devout oyster
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๐Ÿ™

dusky sonnet
devout oyster
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one channel wont kill the server

warped narwhal
dusky sonnet
warped narwhal
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obv he is

dusky sonnet
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Goodbye

pulsar spire
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i was told this was a brainless discussion

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@dusky sonnet where

devout oyster
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it was not

devout oyster
pulsar spire
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mb he said painless

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wait he said painful

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mb again

lapis dome
full apex
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LOL

lapis dome
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i agree with father grunk

tribal pond
# dusky sonnet The fact that there is already clutter is a terrible argument to add more clutte...

Cloud has a point tho- Modeling might not have as many ppl as the role but the channel can be just as active as #๐Ÿ“œ๏ธฑscripting , unlike the other dev channels which are not nearly as active. And there are a lot of piss names that are modelers but dont bother with the role because they don't need to, so the numbers on members might not be the best representation of how popular modeling is. The other roles should be able to get their pro channels if theyre ever that active

dusky sonnet
wise wagon
devout oyster
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the whole point is that it stays the same, my skill doesnt matter, i know enough about building to be able to know that

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also you a scripter why do you care

lapis dome
# tribal pond Cloud has a point tho- Modeling might not have as many ppl as the role but the c...

for reference #๐ŸงŠ๏ธฑmodeling has ~725k messages sent (716,795 atm)

#๐Ÿ“œ๏ธฑscripting alone has ~2.25M messages sent (2,243,266) & that's not including
#๐Ÿ“œ๏ธฑpro-scripting adds another ~300k (299,592)

not even including the scripting help channels (which adds about another 1.7M messages) scripting has a wayyy larger number of people using them so it makes sense to have channels divided there

wise wagon
lapis dome
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๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ

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i hear you
but there are people talking in other channels right now so that just doesn't have any effect on it

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if every channel was dead for half an hour it'd make sense

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also modelers wouldn't have different sleep schedules than scripters lmfao

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what's making it unfair โ‰๏ธ

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what

lapis dome
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yes and im saying scripting is 5x more active

wise wagon
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but being active isn't enough, it needs to be too active

wise wagon
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scripting can be

wise wagon
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yes I saw

lapis dome
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you're not really giving us anything to change our minds with

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just saying "modeling is active so it needs another channel" isn't really convincing

whole ibex
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986 MESSAGES WTF

lapis dome
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i can't find any real arguments

whole ibex
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โ˜ ๏ธโ˜ ๏ธโ˜ ๏ธโ˜ ๏ธโ˜ ๏ธโ˜ ๏ธ

lapis dome
lapis dome
whole ibex
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those mf still yap

lapis dome
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show me a good argument

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anywhere

fresh pivot
tribal pond
# lapis dome show me a good argument

comparing from the past two weeks (from the 26th of last month until today) its 34k in scripting and 22k in modelling.
to put that in comparison, building in the same time frame only had 2k, gfx 640. animating had 6k, clothing had 150, and sfx had 621.
to put this into even further perspective. the scripting channel had only 200-500 messages per day when the pro scripting channel was new (Late Feb 2021)
Modeling is literally twice as active as scripting was when it got a pro scripting channel.

fresh pivot
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@tribal pond since you're here and idk who to ask, pls give your honest opinion overall (still not finished but almost)

tribal pond
fresh pivot
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I try to draw the runes

swift prism
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i like it

fresh pivot
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everyone said it sucks

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:(

swift prism
fresh pivot
fresh pivot
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trust

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anyway I will finish tomorrow

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gn everyone

tribal pond
wise wagon
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it matters to mods, apparently. or grunk, at least

lapis dome
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is it though

tribal pond
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wait mb discord bugged

lapis dome
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after december 26th

tribal pond
lapis dome
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Yes โ‰๏ธ because if there was only 1 scripting one they'd all be in that one ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

tribal pond
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no one is denying that scripting is the most popular skill, but that doesnt mean modelling is inactive in comparison โ˜ ๏ธ the rest of the skill roles (exc. scripting) combined still wouldnt add up to modelings activity.

lapis dome
swift prism
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"4 scripting channels are more active than the 1 modeling channel" no shit

wise wagon
lapis dome
tribal pond
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โ˜ ๏ธ

lapis dome
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modeling isn't active enough to make a new channel

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it's fine

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why change?

whole ibex
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THOSE GUYS ARE STILL YAPPING โ˜ ๏ธ

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THIS IS JUST A DISCORD SERVER BRU

tribal pond
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server suggestion, lock all the piss names away to one channel โ˜ ๏ธ

whole ibex
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go to a pro blender discord server

whole ibex
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but modelers actually can

lapis dome
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the literal statistics i've been putting in this channel for the past hour ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

whole ibex
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roblox code is different from lua

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roblox scripters are using robloxs api to create things

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and we have no other server than this one

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but im sure theres plenty of blender servers

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for pros

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luau is different from roblox api

lapis dome
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2x is not "almost"

whole ibex
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then why do we have almost 3x more messages

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๐Ÿคจ

lapis dome
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if your piss is orange you should probably get that checked out

warped narwhal
whole ibex
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๐Ÿ˜”

tribal pond
# whole ibex but im sure theres plenty of blender servers

and when it comes to discussing all the issues with layered clothing and making assets under roblox's guidelines? Or making PBR materials that are usable in Roblox? Blender is a massive tool and not the only one used for making roblox assets.

whole ibex
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colorblind

tribal pond
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this is the correct answer

tribal pond
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anyone can script, not everyone can model

whole ibex
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pbr texture isnt that pro

whole ibex
tribal pond
whole ibex
tribal pond
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we still get noobs fool

whole ibex
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because as you said ANYONE can script

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but not everyone can make good scripts

warped narwhal
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scripting is just a skill people pick when they realize modeling is too hard ๐Ÿคท
useless skill that doesnโ€™t matter outside of just roblox

tribal pond
whole ibex
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nah

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he said not everyone can model

whole ibex
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yall still yapping

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lol

lapis dome
tribal pond
whole ibex
whole ibex
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average 2 iq modeler

tribal pond
whole ibex
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go check all my message in modeling

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yeah

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if you look closely

whole ibex
tribal pond
whole ibex
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to make this one

lapis dome
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why are the modelers still arguing this

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pro modeling isn't getting added

whole ibex
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๐Ÿคก

whole ibex
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only with nodes

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because modeling is boring and nodes better ๐Ÿ”ฅ

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yeah

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make it if its that simple

tribal pond
warped narwhal
whole ibex
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keep in mind min not a modeler at all and i made this

tribal pond
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tutorials be like

whole ibex
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๐Ÿค‘

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still yappin when a mod said you aint gonna have this channel

warped narwhal
whole ibex
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no bc im not a modeler

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and wouldnt be that hard

lapis dome
whole ibex
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if i really try hard i can do this in a month

tribal pond
whole ibex
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no because i have better things to try hard

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like editing

warped narwhal
whole ibex
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or workout

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im not trolling

tribal pond
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editing is just for people that cant model

whole ibex
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i mean

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editing videos

tribal pond
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i know what u meant bro

whole ibex
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i just dont find modeling appealing

tribal pond
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anyone can edit a video โ˜ ๏ธ

whole ibex
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but if i really tryharded modelling i can do this in a month

whole ibex
tribal pond
whole ibex
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ok

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KEEP IN MIND I STARTED EDITING 3 DAYS AGO

warped narwhal
whole ibex
tribal pond
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im sorry you're french bro.

whole ibex
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scripting tutorial in french ๐Ÿ”ฅ

warped narwhal
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What could be worse crying

whole ibex
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and i fr started editing 3 days ago because i really like this

whole ibex
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fermez vos gueules je vous dรฉteste

tribal pond
#

its just tiktok capcut editing style

warped narwhal
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So mad that forgot English

tribal pond
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swear u can do the captions with ai now too ๐Ÿ˜ญ

whole ibex
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people who use tiktok have 0 attention span

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so you gotta keep them on ur video

lapis dome