Photography

[verbal laurel]

I thought the same, and is the same excuse I use

[paper bear]

@jagged lake

So awkward to hold

[jagged lake]

❤️

[jagged lake]

It’s like that for a little bit

[paper bear]

Yeah ill probably get used to it

[jagged lake]

Try grabbing the hood

[paper bear]

You think it’s structurally safe to do so?

[jagged lake]

Yes

[paper bear]

Alright ill try that

I have a fluid head tripod but its just so slow to pan

[jagged lake]

I don’t even use the ring usually

Though 200-600 doesn’t extend right?

[paper bear]

Yeah its internal

I gotta hold the lens with the same hand which i use to zoom

[jagged lake]

Hm

Odd

[verbal laurel]

That is big

[paper bear]

Tbf its much smaller if you take the hood off

But still quite heavy

[paper bear]

First pic with the new lens

Below ideal conditions but its pretty sharp

Well its sharp on my phone. Discord seems to have compressed it

[verbal laurel]

Nice

[verbal laurel]

As usual

[jagged lake]

Should try birding

[paper bear]

I need a camo wrap or something for the lens tho

I hate the white

Too flashy

Scares the birds away

[verbal laurel]

Nah

Is possible to take with out the camo wrap

Just find some nice spot that you can hide behind the leafs

[paper bear]

True

[bitter spoke]

bro stopped at yvr while getting delivered

[paper bear]

Wait fr?

Ig its bombardier so would have been made in canada

[elder ingot]

Google says Airbus A220-300

[paper bear]

It was bombardier C series before

CS300

Then airbus took over

[elder ingot]

Still technically correct

[paper bear]

But main assy line is still in Quebec

[jagged lake]

Not really, but it certainly attracts people who DO

[bitter spoke]

yeah in like 2022

[paper bear]

Cool lookin sky today

[strong fractal]

Idk budget but a7cr used is a huge value rn

[strong fractal]

Monopod

[paper bear]

I got the hang of it now. Just takes some getting used to

[jagged lake]

øřëẽñj

[paper bear]

Sony dslr?

[jagged lake]

Yes, and DSLT. I’m one of two people I know that use them.

:)

I absolutely adore them

[paper bear]

Lowkey dslrs are the tanks of the camera world

Super long battery life compared to mirrorless as well

[jagged lake]

YESSS

Battery goes crazy on these

And they’re super cheap

[strong fractal]

New 70-200 2.8 looks dope Nikon

[verbal laurel]

Nice

[jagged lake]

I wanna go planespottinggg

[paper bear]

Todays photo dump

[paper bear]

Time to say bye to this old relic

[jagged lake]

Aww

Selling it?

[paper bear]

Yer

Its got 35k shutter count so its still pretty new

Buying a new a6700 with whatever i get from selling this plus my money

[narrow pollen]

The a6700 is a neat device. Allegedly not superb for long-term video (overheating), but for images superb.

[paper bear]

I planespot so ill film probably only 1-2 mins at a time so shouldn’t overheat.

I just love how much is packed into such a small body. Also curious how good the AF is on it

[tawdry forum]

touch the sensor so the camera will remember you in every photo it takes

[obsidian kindle]

Duckies!

[narrow pollen]

Quackers!

[paper bear]

Lunar eclipse last night

[jagged lake]

Lucky no clouds

[paper bear]

Yeah it was great timing because it rained a few hours after

[paper bear]

Do you get to see the lunar eclipse tonight?

Since you’re like a day behind

[jagged lake]

It was last night here as well but was cloudy

:(

[paper bear]

Oh

Rip

Next one is in like 3 years

[obsidian kindle]

Such mood

[jagged lake]

Love doing that

[obsidian kindle]

I love nature so much

Something so peaceful about it

[jagged lake]

Mhm

[paper bear]

Got a sleeve for the big boi

Pain in the ass to get on

[elder ingot]

Lol the camo sleeve

[paper bear]

Yeeees

I can be sneaky but not so sneaky

[bitter spoke]

Wheres the lens?

How is the camera just floating in the air?

[paper bear]

Lmaooo

[jagged lake]

Very nice

I still don’t have one

[paper bear]

Honestly if my lens was black i wouldn’t have needed to buy one

[paper bear]

Just a few from today

Also sony a6700 otw. Am so excited

[obsidian kindle]

Plen

[paper bear]

Birdspotting at airport

[jagged lake]

Those are some cool birds!

What kinda falcon?

And who’s the gal with the makeup?

[paper bear]

Blue faced honeyeater and a Nankeen Kestrel

Both native Australian birds

[jagged lake]

Lovely

[verbal laurel]

Cute

[paper bear]

Found some old Australia day pics

[paper bear]

Fuck yeah

Took me forever to figure out all the settings

[paper bear]

Pelican

I lowkey hate my 70-350mm lens. The zoom ring is so stiff its impossible to pan smoothly

[tawdry forum]

ps2 graphics 😭

why he look like that

[paper bear]

No clue lol

They look so goofy

[little quartz]

Cute face & pose, back right.

(From last month) Signs while waiting to ride Big Thunder Mountain.

The third haul of goodies for my favourite ride at Tokyo DisneySea. Super happy to finally acquire a shirt! All of the merch could be up to 21 years old, making it really hard to get now.

I'll have to take a picture of my entire collection once I get it organized.

Found pics of second and first haul.

[paper bear]

Gallipoli barracks

[narrow pollen]

Birb.

[verbal laurel]

nice

[junior merlin]

Ship

[elder ingot]

How do you get close enough to do this

[paper bear]

Im not

Probably like 1km away from the runways and taxiways

But i have a big lens so its no problem

[jagged lake]

900mm equivalent go BRRRRRR

Like this one I took in May

[little quartz]

Dump of snow overnight. Getting kind of late for this type of shenanigans.

[verbal laurel]

Nice

[jagged lake]

So pretty

[elder ingot]

@jagged lake thoughts on the Sony a6000?

[jagged lake]

Really great starter camera :)

Has the same sensor as my Sony a77ii, which I took the car photo above on

And this

Lens matters more for quality but the sensor is REALLY good and it’s a great cheap camera with plenty of features

[elder ingot]

I've been thinking about getting one

[jagged lake]

Dewit

[elder ingot]

It's why I asked about it

It released in 2014

https://www.mpb.com/en-us/product/sony-alpha-a6000/sku-3709690

Thinking about getting it from here

[junior gale]

like beano said, it's great. i use the a6400 and love it, i haven't done a deep dive on the specs but typically with these incremental upgrades the older you go you have fewer autofocus zones and other quality of life things like that. but the quality of photos will still be stellar.

in the 6000 lineup you don't get in body image stabilization until the 6500 and imo that's one of the bigger upgrades. with the a6000 tho you can just get a lens with stabilization if it is something that you need (not necessarily the case).

[elder ingot]

I have pretty steady hands already, but if I need to I'll keep it in mind with the lens stabilization

[junior gale]

there are some long-recommended lenses from sigma that would do you quite well, depending on what you'll be using it for

[elder ingot]

Planespotting, night time shots, wildlife, just random things, etc

And maybe getting pictures of cars too. I just wanted something better than the camera I have now (which I need to sell)

[jagged lake]

Stabilization will matter with long lenses

250mm and up roughly

[junior gale]

yeah, and if you plan to do video at all with longer lenses it will also help with that. it's a massive help on the 70mm (105mm equivalent) lens that i use.

plus any sort of longer exposure will benefit too, which if you're doing night time shots likely will come up

[narrow pollen]

My experience is 200mm with an APS-C sensor (about 300mm in full frame) is a bit of a challenge handheld so blimey you have that description dead on.

[junior gale]

this can definitely be the sort of thing that you test and upgrade when you determine you need it, rather than chasing the ultimate/perfect/ideal, but don't be surprised if it does turn out to be of benefit for you

[narrow pollen]

Stabilization can slightly help with darkness as well as you can push the exposure that tiny bit longer than without stabilization.

[junior gale]

the one regret i have is that i really should have just sprung for the 6500 when i upgraded last, lol

[narrow pollen]

Personally, I went the no-stabilization route with sharp and open lenses (f1.6-f1.8), not a lot of distance, but can handle dimly-lit churches like a champ. I am a bit sad that I can't do long-distance nature stuff well, but... I accept that limitation. So it does depend on your use cases.

[junior gale]

absolutely

[narrow pollen]

When I upgrade, it'll probably be either to a a6700 (IBIS plus the bigger battery, though with some overheating reported) or the a7CR (full-frame, IBIS, tons of room to crop photos due to a massive sensor). But I'm in no hurry. The whole a6000 series is great, with maybe a a6800 or similar coming up later this year or next year.

[elder ingot]

How much should I sell my old camera for anyway. It's a Canon PowerShot SX something or other, I don't remember the exact thing off the top of my head

[junior gale]

the full frame stuff is niiiice, but man do i love the mirrorless form factor. i don't think i can go back.

[narrow pollen]

The problem is, a6700 is already much thicker than the rest of the a6000 family, and at that point the a7C series isn't much different in form factor (C for compact, the viewfinder is at the top left corner).

[junior gale]

i'm a bad resource for this, but search around and you should get an idea of what they're going for. i find that the sales subreddits (/r/photomarket in this case) are usually good for this.

[narrow pollen]

The MPB and Kamerastore online places are also decent ways to find what the 'typical' price of a used device is. If you do sell a camera, be nice and include the shutter count in the posting.

[elder ingot]

What if I don't know what it is

[narrow pollen]

It should be written somewhere on the device, probably under it or maybe in the Settings -> Device info. Or in the pictures' metadata.

By metadata, it is easy to check if you have a picture taken with it. Just open it and check file info:

[elder ingot]

I'd have to take a picture with it

[narrow pollen]

At that point, just check if there is something written under the camera.

[elder ingot]

The metadata on my phone says what the shutter count is when I take a picture

Maybe, idk

Not sure

[paper bear]

For a starter cam id definitely go with the a6400 or a7iii

2 super common and reliable camera bodies

Just depends if you wanna film or take pics

Low light id probably go with a full frame sensor though

[elder ingot]

Just pictures

Also how much are both of those

Give me USD

[narrow pollen]

The prices can vary wildly, depending on whether you are willing to take used or grey market or are purchasing new. For example, a grey market brand new a6700 can be below 1100€, but an official local retailer wouldn't let it go below 1600€. That's like a 30% difference depending on whether you want a reliable warranty or not. a6400 would be cheaper than that, but still about 900-1000€ in official retailers, a7m3 probably around 1800€ or more even though it is two generations old now. American prices in general I think are a little lower than € prices in official retailers, grey market (mostly imports from Japanese market, sometimes need a language setting change) stuff I have no idea about in the States.
As for official retailers, sometimes the cameras are cheaper with a lens than without one, bundle deals are something to keep an eye on. Like, I've seen official retailers sell a bundle cheaper than body only, so even if the lens is crap, you're still saving money (+ you could sell the lens later though probably quite cheaply).

Notably, a6400 doesn't even have a backlit sensor nor IBIS (I don't know a7m3 so well), so darkness can be an issue, but honestly SONY is pretty darn good with darkness. I have basically the same sensor in my ZV-E10 and the main constraint are some extremely dimly lit churches or caves where I need a lens with an aperture wider than f2.8, meaning I have to switch to a prime lens instead of using a zoom. The vast majority of places, no sweat.

[paper bear]

Also have to think about resell price once you upgrade. Lower shutter count = higher resale price

[narrow pollen]

Which is funny since using the electronic shutter does increase the count, but doesn't really wear down the mechanical shutter that much. :p

[paper bear]

Yeahhhh but fully silent shutter does cause distortion when you pan, especially if the sensor readout speed isnt fast enough.

EFCS is what most people use

Would probably count as 1/2 the wear as full mech

[paper bear]

A7III (used 50k shutter) $850usd
A6400 (used 959 shutter) $710usd

These are sold items on ebay

My dad got his a7iii for $700usd on Facebook marketplace but for you id reccomend buying from somewhere where you have buyer protection

[narrow pollen]

I use silent shutter because usually when I do photos I am either around people or birds, either way I don't want to be noisy or attract attention. And I just... don't pan during photos. 😄

[elder ingot]

eBay has buyer protection

[narrow pollen]

The stock a6400 price feels a little painful. Compared to a ZV-E10 it has the benefit of a viewfinder, but can't be used as a webcam as easily (via USB). And a brand new ZV-E10 can be had for less than 700€.

[paper bear]

Yeah so id probably buy from there

Or direct from sony

Or any online retailer really

[elder ingot]

There's also MBP for used cameras I believe

[paper bear]

Whats that

[elder ingot]

https://www.mpb.com/en-us?

Holy shit that's a link

That's better

[paper bear]

Oh thats a us website so i wouldnt know

But yeah any reputable online retailers are good

I got my 200-600 lens from an online retailer as “2nd hand”. Was $700 cheaper than buying direct from sony

[jagged lake]

MPB is really good

KEH is good but their prices are bad

UsedPhotoPro is my local place, they’re amazing and I love them ❤️

They sell online as well

eBay is good for lenses but I wouldn’t necessarily trust for a body

[elder ingot]

Website link?

[jagged lake]

believe it or not, https://www.usedphotopro.com

[elder ingot]

That's not bad

[jagged lake]

Yeah

Kamerastore is also a really good one but they’re in Finland so with import duties they’ll be more expensive now

they send you Finnish peppermint candy when you order tho lol

It’s pretty good

[narrow pollen]

I did not know that but that is so cool.

[bitter spoke]

air canada mentioned

[paper bear]

Just a few pics from today

Forgot to bring my tripod 🤦‍♂️

[bitter spoke]

nice pan

[paper bear]

Thx. Was my first time trying it

[elder ingot]

That C-130 Hercules is amazing

[paper bear]

Did you see what i posted in #1375098888775536650

[elder ingot]

Yeah

[verbal laurel]

nice photos

[paper bear]

Birb again

[narrow pollen]

That is some cool eye shading.

[junior merlin]

food

[paper bear]

Birbs i saw while planespotting today

[paper bear]

Bringing all this for my trip to Sydney in 2 days

My dads got the a7 iii and ill use the a6700

[jagged lake]

V nice

[narrow pollen]

That is a huge lens for an APS-C camera.

[paper bear]

Yup lol

Even then it still seems not enough sometimes

[jagged lake]

900mm :)

I wanna get an 800mm and put it on apsc

1200 total

[paper bear]

Could almost photograph birds in a different country

[paper bear]

Oof

[tawdry forum]

i have a billion more but I feel like these are the slightly not bad ones that I took

very nice city even tho literally everything we tried going to was closed specifically on the days we went to them 😭

and also I think I progressively got worse and worse at editing photos

[jagged lake]

These are nice :)

I like the garage one

[tawdry forum]

same, it looked really cool irl

[elder ingot]

Not my picture, credit Erik Kuna on Twitter

Here's the actual post

[junior merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/viktor-s-cheering-outer-space-gif-16076996

[elder ingot]

Oh cool, a parrot

[elder ingot]

Holyyyyyyy

[jagged lake]

NIIICE

[paper bear]

F6.3 🫠

[paper bear]

A321XLR

[elder ingot]

Nice belly shot of it

[jagged lake]

I found a Phoebe the other day

first time getting a pic

one of these (wiki image)

actually my first time seeing+identifying one

:D

My image (she was pretty far and couldnt stay still)

but hey its not a bad image

:))

Junco in a pine :)

[paper bear]

Yall get such cute birds. All the birds here want to attack you 💀

[jagged lake]

Aww that’s cute too

We get geese that do that haha

[paper bear]

Hmmm i think i might get a tamron 70-180 f2.8 G2

I have no lenses when it comes to lowlight. Also cant afford a sony F2.8 lens

[jagged lake]

I have an 80-200/2.8 (Minolta)

I love it

But it’s hard to find a use case for it

I hardly use it but when I do it’s absolutely amazing

Was $300

[elder ingot]

Squirrel

[cloud wyvern]

Something I took 4 years ago

finally started editing

[paper bear]

Tried some long exposure

[urban rune]

Light painting next hehehe

[paper bear]

Oooo yes i gotta try that

[icy river]

I honestly said to myself, “what game is that”?

Then I looked over them again....

[jagged lake]

Actual photos soon™

[jagged lake]

White-Throated Sparrow pretending he's a display in a museum

and a little jumpy fren!

[paper bear]

I love jumping spiders

The only spiders which are cute

[jagged lake]

Frfr

Adorable guys

He was playing with me I swear

Jumped in my lens and kept bluff charging my hand

[paper bear]

Butcherbird in my backyard

[jagged lake]

So pretty

So deadly

Bring him inside. Give him a box.

[elder ingot]

That's a good looking bird

[limber tartan]

Very pretty

[paper bear]

Looks nice but will bite ya face off lol

That beak is no joke

Its called the butcherbird for a reason

[paper bear]

More birb

[paper bear]

For a 30 year old lens i think this is pretty sharp.

[jagged lake]

What lens? Pretty good :)

[jagged lake]

crow with a cracker

[tawdry forum]

looks like a video game lmao

like those hyper realistic mods or sum

got a few more photos but these are generally uninteresting

[paper bear]

Canon 200mm F2.8L USM II

Prime lens but its from 1996

[jagged lake]

V nice :)

[icy river]

In my opinion, it looks good overall. A tiny bit bright overall, but that can be fixed in editing.

[tawdry forum]

they were edited to look like that kinda

[icy river]

Oh, okay.

I do like the sand/dirt. Makes the stuff in the pic seem like it’s been there a while.

[tawdry forum]

i mean yeah thats what it is 😭

old ass house

billions of rooms if it were built today it'd be an easy 10 million euro house here in portugal

[elder ingot]

https://www.mpb.com/en-us/product/sony-alpha-a6000/sku-3822002

Unsure if this is just the lens or lens and camera body

[paper bear]

Just the body

[elder ingot]

Rip

Though not bad

Can buy the lens on eBay maybe

[paper bear]

Yeah ebay is gud

[paper bear]

Plen and birb

[narrow pollen]

Love the feathers on that. The birb, not the planes.

[jagged lake]

Hoverfly

macro setup 👀 👀

[paper bear]

I think i have the same flash as you lol

[jagged lake]

F43M??

[paper bear]

Ye lol

[jagged lake]

Nice

I like it

Haven’t had it long

[paper bear]

My fave Qantas livery

[narrow pollen]

Birbs and stuff.

[tawdry forum]

@jagged lake

[jagged lake]

poor speaker

[tawdry forum]

why

i have a video of it bottoming out like crazy lmao

[jagged lake]

Oh

[tawdry forum]

ill send it to you

its cool

bruh wait a minute you've already saw it

[jagged lake]

Gearbox Minolta

[paper bear]

Dang thats a proper contraption

[jagged lake]

it is lol

12 elements 12 groups individually controlled for corrections

[elder ingot]

🕷️

[paper bear]

Plane through the moon

[jagged lake]

Moon through the plane?

[verbal laurel]

so cute

[elder ingot]

Get ready for Taco's Bahamian Adventure™ in four days

[paper bear]

ISS

[paper bear]

Niceee

[elder ingot]

Cruise ships and a strawberry daiquiri

[wise patrol]

this is so lovely!

[elder ingot]

Did you see my pictures?

[strong fractal]

Thanks!!!

[little quartz]

These shoes are lit, literally!

[jagged lake]

how ya gonna get em offff, nerrrrd?!

[narrow pollen]

Birb.

[urban rune]

Ahhhh why carnival 🤣

[elder ingot]

Most popular cruise line here

Here's another lol

[urban rune]

Royal / Celeb > NCL/Virgin > carnival 🤣

Carnival also attracts a certain crowd

[elder ingot]

What crowd?

[urban rune]

Rowdy

[feral vector]

DCL for life

[elder ingot]

More planes

[obsidian kindle]

I took cool pic of church

[elder ingot]

Sunset

[elder ingot]

Goes hard

[narrow pollen]

Now those are some cuties!

[obsidian kindle]

Coming back to this when in in cologne

[obsidian kindle]

@burnt hazel

stoopid

[junior gale]

Almost looks fake, great sunset lit from behind; this is straight from the phone, just whatever processing is baked in

[limber tartan]

Must be AI (jk)

[verbal laurel]

Nice

[obsidian kindle]

I took pic of tren

[jagged lake]

Pretty pics

[wise patrol]

whoa!

[junior merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-iliketrains-trains-gif-4905803

[jagged lake]

Ready for race day 🏁

[paper bear]

Massive storm

[tawdry forum]

is the storm coming from the house

[paper bear]

No lol

But looks like it

[paper bear]

Golden hour

[elder ingot]

That's a Blackhawk

[jagged lake]

2!

[jagged lake]

Price keeps dropping and iNEEEDD ITTTT

Ain’t paying 3k tho

[tawdry forum]

holy shit 3.4k 😭

meanwhile I'm complaining over 600 euro for a bike

lowkey valid tho

[paper bear]

70-200 2.8 G2 costs that much 😭

[jagged lake]

Right but BIRDS

And I have 80-200 HS which is already incredibly fast

I do want a 70-200 but I would rather 300/2.8

[paper bear]

Prime 2.8 lenses are lowkey a bell

Massive

[jagged lake]

My 80-200 doesn’t use the full focus area but neither does my 150-600 and I’d rather fix that first

[jagged lake]

Yeah they are lol

But I don’t really care

My 150-600 is a BAZOOKA

11-12 pounds when I’m fully kitted on my 99ii

[jagged lake]

Right?

I don’t wanna spend that

[paper bear]

Holy shii

[tawdry forum]

you have a job tho

[jagged lake]

But it IS a lot less than the 12-15k of new lenses

[jagged lake]

I do

But I’m savingggg

[paper bear]

F2.8 tax is real

[jagged lake]

I’m trying to get 20k saved lol

[tawdry forum]

I'm "saving" too, except I'm saving up for nothing and that only makes me scared of having fun 😔

[jagged lake]

Fair

Save for the boring life stuff it’s worth it

[paper bear]

600mm f4 money right there

[jagged lake]

Forreal

But I’m not spending on lens

500/4 SSM is 3-5k when it’s available

[tawdry forum]

yes but what about a BMX think about it beano

[jagged lake]

I don’t bike much

However

20 pounds of camera gear on a trail with a bike

Sure