Beastfelled- 2026

[red cypress]

Could be

Ah nvm its actually bc the extra mobs are summoned mid battle. They have this 1 turn delay before acting. Works same way how eos summons/gs summons work

So it feels like you get extra turn

[mortal light]

Oh no my steak is too juicy and my lobster too buttery

That's all I can think of

[red cypress]

Idk is it bc foresight. But that interaction has been here always

[mortal light]

I didn't even notice it
I know about it cuz knight talked about it

[red cypress]

Eos needs to act 2 times before her first summon acts

[mortal light]

And I'm rank 44 lol

[red cypress]

Lmao

[mortal light]

You're clearing the dungeons with eos? 💀

[red cypress]

I have done eos dungeons during dragon era

Not currently

Im rocking broom

[mortal light]

Broom + BL2?

[red cypress]

Eh no

I dont like bl2

I like raw pet power

[mortal light]

Interesting

[unborn dune]

Same but hypa but its unusable in dungeons iv lost 10 today ;^;

My poor beastfell rank

[red cypress]

Broom finaly feels like horde pet

[ebon hemlock]

#BuffRavageMore

[ebon hemlock]

Are you using beastfelled cuirass or only sharpen 2 and 1 btw?

[red cypress]

Currently only 2 and 1

Cuirass is in blacksmith

200+k without redline

Or deific

Feels so good that beoA can now do mel horde 🥹

No redline or deific at despair 4

[main wave]

hi can rs have +4 attack stat please

[unborn dune]

You need MORE attack?

[random zephyr]

Time to add T.att4 XD

[scenic shuttle]

I mean it's one thing if I was only getting 1 for fs but I'm getting 1-3 turns pretty sure the 2nd/3rd turns are just straight up extra turns

[red cypress]

Nope

Its the delay that all mid battle summons/encounter have

[ripe rapids]

yep either way should log a bugreport

[red cypress]

Here is examble

[covert gorge]

It's the same issue GSH have btw, it's pretty well known and documented

Happenes with darkrift dungeons as well

[red cypress]

My griffin waited 2 full rounds before it got turn to act

Was this fixed now? Bc now when im testing it my summons act right after the turn they were summoned

[ripe rapids]

just because something is well known and documented in public chats doesn't mean odie will pick up on it and fix it. reporting bugs is unironically the best way to report bugs

[covert gorge]

Sorry I meant it as it's already been reported, my bad for bad explanation

[ripe rapids]

oh i guess i haven't seen that report then 👍

[warped agate]

Goated <3

[slender helm]

On the topic of ravage, can the attack on arisen feral claws get increased and the crit just get removed? Even at gf the damage is lower than ybf with fewer adornments and ravage gets none of the same benefits from crit. Feel like it should be at least 2000 when gfd for it to be usable

[junior musk]

I’m straight up not having a good time finding horns. Do you guys just run horde dungeons or do you use that horde gear from past event?

[young sentinel]

Running horde boost gear makes the event dungeons very horn positive for me

Otherwise it could be worth running normal horde, but that wouldn’t award as much AP and other event materials/gear

[cloud depot]

And ravage doesnt even crit

Either they should increase the m1 of ravage

And remove the crit stat

Or make ravage crit

[scenic shuttle]

While that's possible that doesn't give you multiple turns in a row like this does and it's like the game can't figure out if it should give one or 3 which is totally different than just delaying turns I posted videos and screenshots here feel free to report it but I don't think it's the same as the summon bug

The whole summon doesn't act the turn it's summoned is classic summoning sickness. Turn after it should act

[warped agate]

2k sounds a bit excessive. Can't we just increase it a little bit and change the scaling of ravage or increase the pen a little?

[red cypress]

Its same, but why they dont give me turns is bc its my ally. If it was the enemy...their turns would be skipped 2x due delay which then gives me 2x more turns to hit them before they can move

[scenic shuttle]

and why is it inconsistent then

[red cypress]

Idk bc that does not happen on my summons all the time either. Its a bug that happens idk what triggers it.

[scenic shuttle]

still leads me to think nothing to do with summons

plus we have instances of summons from the enemy and it just continues the floor so it really leads me to think nothing to do with summons

[unborn dune]

Lol of it was up to me tbh feral claws should be FERAL. They should have a chance to proc bleed, on enemies, blood shift on player and upon killing a bleeding target give blood soaked +5% weapon damage per enemy killed.

Or something

But feral claws not being feral in nature kinda odd

They should bring out the beast, heck even a small % chance to give berzerk each time an enemy is killed

[scenic shuttle]

would be too op and deitys would take it or beoh and they dont need another bl2 situation

[unborn dune]

Tieing it to avidity isnt a net positive for them.

And wev seen it before

[scenic shuttle]

then youve nothing for the gilgas

[unborn dune]

Avidity/CD

[scenic shuttle]

rs is strong if you know what youre doing with it

[unborn dune]

And done.

[scenic shuttle]

gilga is strong enough

not every class needs a crazy aoe option

[unborn dune]

But every class should have a build in every area of content.

[scenic shuttle]

you have dts?

you have the mammon weapon

[unborn dune]

Nope xD

[scenic shuttle]

yah

[unborn dune]

Mammon likes giving me kaladandan and nothing els

[scenic shuttle]

those are aoe options

grind more

dont know what to tell you

[unborn dune]

Also im a gs main xD havent touched rs since summoner came out. Never looking back.

[scenic shuttle]

you still have dts?

and cd

[unborn dune]

I just dont think, no clue what dts is man

[scenic shuttle]

dragon tail sweep

[upper ibex]

yelm thin / greatsword

[scenic shuttle]

yelb weapon

[unborn dune]

Oh!!!!!!

Eh, making claws hit 2 things at minimum and give gilg & RS a spot to shine isnt too much to ask

Dosent even have to be as crazy as berzerk

Could be sharpen 2 upon killing enemies

[scenic shuttle]

rs can use a buff

but not something any other class can use

gilga is extremely strong

and does not need a buff

[unborn dune]

Classes with avidity, xyz upon killing an enemy going on the claws ability isnt too much to ask tho?

[scenic shuttle]

kinda is

you need a class specific buff not a weapon specific because thats very difficult to code

[unborn dune]

Rs is isn a very similar spot to summoner if im being honest.

[scenic shuttle]

nope

[unborn dune]

The rs kit has been kinda bonkers since celestial and avidity happened.

[scenic shuttle]

summoner is in its strongest state as of recent

[unborn dune]

So the only real way to supplement it is the weapons themselves

^

Making dual blades, claws ect. Have an inherent "classes with avidity xyz

Like for claws, when dodging opponents attacks increases weapon damage by 5% cap 15%.

[scenic shuttle]

again thats way harder to code than just giving realm a buff

[unborn dune]

Which again should be tied to weapon type.

[scenic shuttle]

no

it should just be tied to the class

its easier to code to the class than the weapon to check the class being used

[unborn dune]

Youre just here to argue

Listen to me then rebuff please

[scenic shuttle]

no im here to point out that coding something ot check the class uses is a way to create big bugs that people will abuse

get a buff via class specific

not a weapon that would end up being used less that 50% of the time

remember the weapon likely wont be used for raids or pvp or world farming

[main wave]

bro want's every weapon to be used 100% of the time

[unborn dune]

Go to rs channel.

this channel isnt about things that have nothing to do with beastfeld updates. So I moved my response there.

[main wave]

I am global threader

[ebon hemlock]

Not sure if it's a bug since I didn't test but just from the numbers I'm seeing, I'm pretty sure anguish stats aren't being applied to the 2nd wave of each floor in the event dungeons and also, they don't drop anguish proofs. Is this intended?

[pastel forge]

I’ve gotten 6 proofs from a single floor, so they were dropping proofs. Unless something changed recently

[stable delta]

The 2nd wave spawns at their normal levels, not scaled up to lv 225-250

Thats prob why u see the stats so low

So like the monoceros wave 2 shows up at level 50-75 lol

[ebon hemlock]

Ah, was wondering why my damage against them was so much higher

[willow spindle]

It also seems to be capped at 6 total per floor, so if you get 5 mobs on the first one you only ever get 1 on the second wave. I'm sure this has been pointed out already but it would be nice if the second wave amount wasn't dependent on the first since it makes horde bonus gear a lot less useful

And if horde bonus affected the second wave that'd be amazing

[austere trail]

imho, we already get enough mobs as is that it's fine for that to not be the case. We very often already get 5 or 6 mobs per floor, most are laughably easy to defeat and they're all event mobs, so they all drop proofs. That's pretty awesome. I don't think every dungeon should benefit greatly from horde bonus, so there's still some times where the build isn't just Ruairc from head to toe

I'd still fix that anguish stat / enemy level bug though, if that's a thing

[austere trail]

I get multiple most floors, but that's probably because I don't use horde gear - the difference in mobs is minimal and I can get less setup turns, more damage, and more consistency with my gear

• push higher anguish

[prime sparrow]

Can confirm, I pretty much always see 2-3 in the second wave

[austere trail]

I'd record a run of mine but I'm having that connection issue many others are having atm, so I'll do that later

[prime sparrow]

I'm having no lag or connection issues at all

Must be my proximity to Canada

Ok, I see what's going on: The second wave can only bring the total number of enemies up to 6

[willow spindle]

That's what I've been saying

[prime sparrow]

Because I'm not running +horde gear, I always see 2-3 except on the boss floor, because the boss floor has 5 enemies.

So if you don't run +horde gear everything is fine and you probably see roughly the same amount of enemies total 😆

[worn elbow]

What ang level are y’all running the event dungeons with?

Trying to find the sweet spot between proofs and survival

[vagrant egret]

I currently do 12 with little struggle

[unborn dune]

This! Its so confusing facing a lower anguish raid and all my stats are if im facing soemtjkng at my level but when facing raids at my ang 0 bonus or negligible

[unborn dune]

Idk on avrage I see 5-6 enemy floors and I dont run horde gear. I sometimes come across a 3 or even 2 mob floor but its pretty rare

[random zephyr]

Ang 25

[scenic shuttle]

this has nothing to do with raids btw this is about the enemy spawns after wave one of a floor

[unborn dune]

Were having 2 different conversations

Low anguish > does the reverse for my stats. High anguish does nothing. In dungeons or raid content. Its jank and doesn't act as intended.

[scenic shuttle]

on ang 2.0 correct?

and youre having issues with what level ang giving you less stats while higher ang feels like youre blowing through

dm me and help me understand so i can figure out if youre actually having an issue or if youre misinterpreting it

[warped agate]

Speaking of ang 2.0, juuust made a thread about it! Might be good fuel

[hazy night]

7 currently

[unborn dune]

7 aswell

[red cypress]

9

Soon 10

[main wave]

15304 mel anyone?

[sturdy spire]

15 (with 2x ruairc gear)

[ebon hemlock]

12 with 2x ruairc gear :

[main wave]

rs?

[red cypress]

Hes beo

[forest sundial]

23 with 100% rua

[ebon hemlock]

For now with beoH, don't have enough cort to upgrade the rs gear yet 😔

[sour zephyr]

13

[rugged knot]

Whats better for manticore hearts? Beastfelled or boss horde?

[prime sparrow]

Boss horde, I think

[paper plinth]

I just run beqstfelled cause it's 1 hour lock out and less keys

It's somewhere around 15 dungeons for 10 keys with 100% horde

Hearts definitely being the limiting factor

[rugged knot]

Yeahh im asking because we have the spelunking event running rn heheh

[main wave]

how much kerb.fur and mono. horn do you guys get per 1 Beastfelled Dungeon? Assuming you run 0% Dungeon Horde Bonus.

[random zephyr]

Beastfelled imo

I see way more manticores in them then regular boss horde

[earnest nymph]

I can't answer with 0% horde bonus, but I tracked 117 completed dungeons in a party of 3 with each dungeon starter wearing 2 or 3 pieces of horde bonus gear (so 60-90% horde bonus) over the course of those dungeons (117 in total) we averaged 4..28 fur, 4.46 hearts and 6.4 horns per dungeon AFTER factoring in the key spend required to open those dungeons

[modest mantle]

Not sure if anyone has answered this but Arisen Kin of Kerberos only seems to appear on the final floor of the Beastfelled Dungeon.

They still appear as usual in Beast Dens, so you'll have to find those if you're trying to farm Blackened Eyes of Kerberos.

[reef crypt]

Just pointing out, I wrote the message you're replying to at a time when they weren't in BF dungeons at all

[modest mantle]

I'm a bit late, it seems haha

[warped agate]

Your bio striked fear into my heart.

[modest mantle]

...

[harsh sonnet]

I wouldn't want to be NF, picking just one beast among the competition submissions feels impossible... 🥹

[ebon hemlock]

Any hope for further ravage/feral claws buffs?

[main wave]

https://tenor.com/view/hl2-hl3-half-life-3-hopium-hope-gif-7246120153840726923

[rugged knot]

Whats its m1?

[main wave]

1

[rugged knot]

Jesus 😩

[main wave]

jiminny cricket?

[rugged knot]

I just got one at 25 agony but im pretty sure i cant use it in mel 19 dgs >:0

Its upgrading though 🤷

[ebon hemlock]

You can always try 🥸

[rugged knot]

2 knives and a dream 🙌

[ebon hemlock]

If they make it crit and hit all enemies, we get bl2 for melee 🥸

[viscid rain]

Community doing most of the voting

From our end there are very few that show both pet and game, so should be an easy list to look through

[ebon hemlock]

Written for the studio vote

Pet + game in the picture

[shell wedge]

Hmmm, thought it was just the community vote

[ebon hemlock]

Remaining 3 just from 😍 reactions

[shell wedge]

True true true

[soft jolt]

Haha I didn't even realize it was a competition, I just thought it was a pet thread

[rugged knot]

Does it take a while for the final archpath reward to go through? I just got it, but i didnt get any mats 🤔

[slender helm]

No it's very quick

[modest mantle]

I thought it was a thread for something entirely different...

I had to do a double-take to confirm that I read it incorrectly lol. I'm certain that was the intention, though.

[mortal light]

I was a competition??! 💀

[slender helm]

Did none of you see the mention in the game announcements saying they're running a competition?

"We're kicking off a <@&1086813208104415375> too!"

[mortal light]

Bold of you to assume I read those

[slender helm]

I didnt want to single you out but I know you don't read.

[hazy night]

This is so ironic

[prime sparrow]

PSA:
I've seen some chat about anguish stats possibly not applying to the second wave in Beastfelled dungeons, and I was about to bug report it, but that's not actually the issue.

It's actually level scaling that isn't being applied to additional enemies, they do seem to still be properly effected by anguish.

[mortal light]

If it's good for us then it's a feature

[scenic shuttle]

i uhm thought that t5-8 enemies would still 1shot me at ang 13

[paper plinth]

The lack of level scaling would lead to the turn order issue

And why it's not always seen

[scenic shuttle]

no that wouldnt

[main wave]

here we go again

[scenic shuttle]

it should not give 3 turns for 3 t5-8 enemies

[prime sparrow]

Up to Odie if it's a bug worthy of being fixed, I'm not bug reporting it because I'm perfectly happy for the second wave to be slightly weaker

[main wave]

true

[scenic shuttle]

hell it shouldnt give multiple turns because of a single t5 enemy showing up

[main wave]

"My steak is too juicy and lobster too buttery" issue

[prime sparrow]

The manticore having 13k lower HP aligns more with it being 40 levels lower than not being boosted 240%

[ebon hemlock]

That's fine and dandy, but what about more ravage or feral claws buffs? 🥸

[paper plinth]

Ok dude

[scenic shuttle]

explain youre thought process because this isnt an issue in other situations

[main wave]

be careful trex, you are talking to a physicist

[scenic shuttle]

dont be toxic theres no room for that in this discord

[main wave]

its' a praise

[paper plinth]

Says the extremely toxic and hostile person

[main wave]

but if you think that as an toxic description of you, then I am very sorry.

[scenic shuttle]

thats typically the tone in your head gives what you read from me most of what i say via text has litterally no emotion behind it so if you take it as toxic or hostile try reading it in a different light

[ebon hemlock]

The dungeons are fine as is, focus on feral claws/ravage now smh

[main wave]

get out of my head bro, i need that

[scenic shuttle]

if you read everything in a positive light it tends to make everything happier and more welcoming reflecting on you as a person being glass half full. if you read it with a negative light it says that you yourself are in a negative mental state and see the world as glass half empty. try it some time youll feel better about life and feel like a better person

[main wave]

then read it as a positive message, i thought you are reformed

[scenic shuttle]

we all have slip ups but yall tend to read my stuff as if im screaming at you and calling youre mother names or something when theres never any emotion behind what im saying just thoughts and words on a screen. and you were telling someone basically not to talk to me which is kinda toxic

[main wave]

I just said to be careful.

not to talk

I think you are making scenarios in your head that make you the bad guy or something

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-surprised-crazy-gif-9336536541100920578

[patent inlet]

it's not going to keep my up at night, no biggie

[slender helm]

Would raising the attack on feral claws keep you up at night?

[prime sparrow]

Their stats are balanced around having a cool +7% pet act, it's Ravage that could use some love (or chained AoE in general, but I'd be happy with Ravage)

[rugged knot]

My man doing gods work

Give wolven tower shield a ground slam (non crittable full aoe, similar calculations as other SS skills) and we're set

Bastion 3 is for losers lets gooo

Full aoe or similar to ravage*

[mortal light]

Make it pet AI and we have a deal

[red cypress]

Pet ai+ valhalla only

[dark star]

Make the summoner as megumi then the summons become mahoraga

[ebon hemlock]

I can feel more Ravage buffs coming soon

[cloud depot]

I can feel that too

I can also feel that next month is gonna be natureblight event

Right?

[rugged knot]

Horribly wrong, next month is gonna be a new event with a dope 2 handed shield RIGHT? 🫱🛡️ 🫲

[lime moon]

maybe 3 armor slot equipment? Kinda like pijama

[paper plinth]

I mean it's March.... I want a leprechaun suit with + gold and minus exp on every slot

[unkempt igloo]

can we have a month with nothing new so people can catch up, endgamers can catch a breath without FOMO and so on?

maybe some QoL but no new content please one month

[paper plinth]

😢 it's beautiful

Pretty sweet "robe" :-p

[rugged knot]

No 🫵

[hollow reef]

When the new stuff is 2-3 godforging tools in the event grind... Inject it straight into my veins.

[patent inlet]

we aim to release content every month. we can't manage everyone's internal FOMO meters, so trust that you all can determine what is appropriate investment for you

[rugged knot]

Its just so we dont think about the epstein files 😡

[mortal light]

Me too me too

[prime sparrow]

Wait a second, this month had nothing new 😆

[mortal light]

Sharpen 2

[prime sparrow]

I'm sure AncientL is extremely concerned about grinding arcanists for sharpen

But this is the break month

[slender helm]

We get a brand new accessory in a few days

[patent inlet]

Beastfelled dungeon, beastfelled AP, Menders of Hearts rework - there's new stuff

[prime sparrow]

Sorry, wasn't meant to be a dig at the content, I meant that as a response to AncientL

[mortal light]

Yee Odie caps back 💀

[prime sparrow]

There's cool fun stuff, but no FOMO to grind

[cursive tundra]

No, this month is free melancholy fomo

[mortal light]

Technically every event now has "fomo" because of the event shop with allegiance points

[prime sparrow]

If you've participated in prior Beastfelled and grinded, you have all the items you need. So February as a month is consuming the content however you want

[patent inlet]

every event always had fomo because it's limited time, so i've been told for years

[mortal light]

But I'd rather not discuss fomo cuz it brings the worst from ppl

[paper plinth]

not true, you can never have enough bristles or moondust....the grind continues

[mortal light]

I'm suddenly RICH in bristles and it feels so good

[mortal light]

Mood dust?💀

[paper plinth]

Its like cococane for mages

chocolate + cocaine

[patent inlet]

i read that as cocomelon

[mortal light]

I've trashed ornate of those to the monuments guild lol

[paper plinth]

i see you have young kids too :-p

[patent inlet]

and now can't stop laughing at orna mages singing cocomelon

[paper plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/bust-stop-pick-up-waiting-ride-on-wheels-on-the-bus-gif-15198227

the new hype train

[mortal light]

Cocomelon is super overstimulating to children please be careful with it 😭

[slender helm]

cocomelon has the best hey diddle diddle song, in case anyone needed to know

[prime sparrow]

Believe me I am not calling Beastfelled bad or without things to grind, I think it's one of the best designed events reward-wise, with important gear to get the copies you need of and repeatable adornments you can never have enough of.

I'm just saying, in response to AncientL, this can be a restful month

[patent inlet]

any month can be a rest month imo

[prime sparrow]

And that's why I need to grind more Riftfall dungeons when those come back, because September was for me 😅

[pine karma]

I'm hyped to grind Heart Menders

[paper plinth]

# team heart breaker

hm didnt mean to bold, stupid discord format

[prime sparrow]

You can do \ before to stop that

[pine karma]

I'm hoping to be able to get my Heart Mender badge from 10 to 25

[prime sparrow]

I'm hyped to grind as many monuments as humanly possible for this three day period

[main wave]

Imagine the First guy to play ORNA, how he felt with no event gears to get.

[pine karma]

How did it feel, Odie?

[prime sparrow]

Unfortunately the oldest account I know of (outside of Odie) was on the second day of Orna 😔

[paper plinth]

well since odie didnt change his name for beastfelled, i look forward to seeing his new cupid sprite for heart menders

[patent inlet]

Robe/Hood of Wolves was a MUST

and count gear

max tier was 5 so don't worry about any of that fancy stuff

[paper plinth]

so your saying expless has almost maxed out 'orna classic"

[mortal light]

So fallen classes weren't a thing ?

[patent inlet]

if pless gets dragoon, then yeah, basically exhausted orna 1.0 content with 2 RoRs equipped

[ebon hemlock]

I'm looking forward to the ravage/feral claws buffs 🥸

[patent inlet]

fixed

[cloud depot]

You know what you could also fix? Ingame message notifications from friends

That would be fire

[mortal light]

You talk to ppl in game?💀

[paper plinth]

only when i want to annoy them with a red ! they cant get rid of

[mortal light]

That's a good idea

[covert gorge]

You have friends ?

[digital jacinth]

Okay but seriously, does moondust have an actual use?

[paper plinth]

i use it on my GSH builds for magic and dex in pvp builds

[digital jacinth]

Good thing I keep my ornates

[paper plinth]

Have a 2nd heretic robe at 199% I'm gonna adorn next

GSH is my new favorite PVP for conquest, turn 1 300-600k dmg , just need to boost that dex a bit.

[pine karma]

yes. I use moondust

[hazy night]

I wanna learn that way sensei

[digital jacinth]

Sir, this is a Denny’s

[paper plinth]

With GSH its waffle house....show up, throw down, and walk out

[cloud depot]

Imagine that i talk

[cloud depot]

Nope

[hollow reef]

"yeah no big deal, I do 300k-600k and call it a day".

Screenshot shows 1.5m on first connection

[paper plinth]

I mean turn 1 is 246-500 with double cast now that I use 1x acc adorn . The 1m+ DMG requires me to live past my first cast

[hollow reef]

Oh I know, it is funny to look at though.

[paper plinth]

then a dorito hits me like 4 times in a row 🙁

but hey, at least i can get rid of gursa and dursa with mamoths

[hollow reef]

Chips have sharp edges, what can you do.

[slender helm]

You can eat a pringle

[hazy night]

If you miss

[shell wedge]

Yeah, that’s with a Nolan’s

[hazy night]

Can you send me build in dm? For research purposes

[mortal light]

Like that's fine 💀

[hollow reef]

I mean, GSH was a joke spec for so long. Let them have their fun for a bit.

It can be reigned in later as needed.

[mortal light]

Bruh

My T1 best atk does 130k

I'm 75als into realm

That's 100k less than what he's doing

[slender helm]

You can do more, I'll show you in OL

[mortal light]

I'm talking about epee here

But I wanna see

[digital jacinth]

That’s one of my commanders in mtg

[ebon hemlock]

Ravage buffs? 🥺

[main wave]

Explo Dung Rework when

[open hound]

Ouch, +4 foresight..

[warped agate]

That is a good point. Time to get the Baldmaster after all.

[rugged knot]

Whats the community's opinion on beastfelled headpieces and barrier? 🤔

[hollow reef]

Worthless filler that hurts your soul when you see it pop up ornate instead of something that matters.

[paper plinth]

I mean as a community wed love it to be replaced with something relevant. I don't think anyone argued to keep barrier. Blessed shield is still my vote

[blazing musk]

I'd say cleanse is probably the most ideal option as it follows the same kinda pathing the manticore hood does but still provides defensive bonuses with the temp buffs

Blessed shield would definitely be my second pick though

[hollow reef]

Cleanse shouldn't be considered, that just makes it a straight downgrade for Beo/BeoA even from Barrier. If you need cleansing, leave that on the manticore hood.

[warped agate]

barrier III

[warped agate]

cleanse sounds broken, i like it

amazing for any class who doesnt have steadfest, and good for everyone with steadfest. especially if you pair this with mimic it becomes self-sufficient

considering high anguish, defensive options are not completely useless. Most definitely worth more then Barrier II in many regards

Give it Cleanse III, make it heal all buffs too, if we're already at it.

[blazing musk]

True but aren't the boots just in the same boat, what beoA needs WoO over any option, id even argue cleanse would be amazing for BeoH as status ailments are the biggest issue for Hydrus after dex

[hollow reef]

The boots aren't in the same boat because WoO spam can at least serve a purpose; they have a use case for Valhallans and non-Valhallans alike.

The moment we get a cleanse spell that can either heal or place temp buffs, follower ai will simply get stuck on it and stop doing anything else trying to keep up temp buffs... or spam rebirth when we are redlining.

If you need cleanse as a non-beo, you already have manticore hood or niche followers.

[blazing musk]

Reason number ??? For updating follower ai then huh, I don't remember if you posted a suggestion but what would you suppose would be non invasive to the beo territory then thats still good amongst the other classes?

[hollow reef]

TBH I'm not even opposed to putting one of the fancy cleanses on one of the headpieces since it will find more use with someone, it's just something that already exists and is going to take those items from "literally unusable" to "maybe someone will find niche use out of this if they feel like chugging titanium and avalon ore".

I think it would actually be a treat if those tried to usher in some weird buffs/behaviors that aren't really available now. The only thing I can even remotely think of is Berserk 2 and that might not be a good example though.

[blazing musk]

Lol i get that my opinion is that head slots are hard to swap around as its probably the most vital equip slot between crit dmg to view distance and such and theres a lot of head pieces that just fall short because theres bis option that you can't remove, being given a choice between dmg and survivability is kind what im thinking

[young sentinel]

i like the idea of cleanse, but poor themis... 😂

[hollow reef]

I remember the days when I thought Oceanus was the worst replica. Good times.

[young sentinel]

i used to think beoH was bad 💀

[blazing musk]

Oh yeah someone made a remark for putting sigils or blights as a head option which is neat but I think it would be way too overpowered

[young sentinel]

blights, yeah that'd be kind of broken. Sigils? I feel like that's getting a bit into the niche of anubis users or heretic, but it'd offer some fun builds

[hollow reef]

It would turn BeoA without stasis into broken territory.

[blazing musk]

I'd just be weary of TMM turning into the tactical nuke of a century in BeoA

[young sentinel]

i'm still leaning more in favor of blessed shield, pretty much on the same line of thinking of survivability vs damage mentioned here

[hollow reef]

Nah, TMM can't be a tactical nuke unless the enemy is basic element immune.

[young sentinel]

TMM suffers with agony elemental damage maluses, but no matter the element it could find a way into either towerfall or ASG raiding

[blazing musk]

Ah thats right, I haven't gotten past ang 10 yet

[hollow reef]

I almost want to suggest ward of balor 3, but I have the gut feeling that it's going to be bad in general because of how long it would take to put up the wall buffs.

[young sentinel]

i have the solution! ward of balor 4

[hollow reef]

Yes officer, that one right there.

Seriously though, I don't have a good solution for everyone but maybe each variant of the helmet can get a different skill based on the class. Would at least be better than barrier.

[blazing musk]

Consensus is at least barrier is not it, I just am thinking i dont want poor odie to have to think of and code something for each head piece to fit each class that isn't broken and follow the boots idea of something relatively good for everyone

[covert gorge]

Prism wall?

[hollow reef]

I'm 50/50 on if that is a good idea or not. It's ideal as a fairly strong one-time buff with no failure chance, but I like the notion of forcing you into Cataphract spec or making you take a niche follower like Cthulu... and having to live with slower, less consistent resist application otherwise.

I guess you can cross off the Cthulu point because I doubt anyone cares enough to switch to that to get it.

[rugged knot]

Imo ward of balor is what makes stonewarg not too great

[covert gorge]

I forgot we had a cthulu follower

[covert gorge]

I mean, berserk is also a skill you get from a spec/chimera but you also have beastfelled garb

It still is a piece of event equipment that forces you to not use a better head piece

[hollow reef]

That is true, I suggested berserk 2 as a possibility above since it still has no special way to get applied.

[prime sparrow]

This is disrespectful to the Lynx Labrys

[mortal light]

Is lynx labrys ever good anyway?

I know it gives zerk 2 but it's a 2H with a mediocre offhand skill and idk abt the stats

[prime sparrow]

All I'm saying is that Drel said "since it still has no special way to get applied"

[mortal light]

doesn't look good to me

[prime sparrow]

He didn't say "good"

And neither did I

[mortal light]

well that's another story

I went to check it out and it's kinda meh

[hollow reef]

Okay I'm just going to be completely real with you: I did not know that the lynx labrys applied berserk 2.

It also doesn't help my case that I see all+ and completely forget that is how berserk 2 is actually noted in game.

[modest mantle]

At least make it Barrier II or Focus--a buff that's currently enemy-only and gives Att↑ + Mag↑, 90% each-- or Scout Weakness for Crit↑ (unlikely).

Every class can appreciate Focus, I'd like to think.

I agree that Barrier is lackluster and anything with temp buffs would be detrimental for followers across the board, but I also don't believe this event gear is meant for Valhallans.

They can make great use of the gear by virtue of their abilities and no gear restrictions but the event overall seems to cater to Warrior & Thief (or melee in general), which is fine imo.

I'm not sure that any changes to the gear should be removed for consideration just because it wouldn't be good for any 1 class. I imagine that a lot of players would've appreciated Cleanse or Rebirth on Beastfelled headgear during the Morrigan event, for example.

[hollow reef]

The only discussion I've ever seen about seriously using Manticore Hood was the braindead ASG build; I doubt having cleanse tech on beastfelled headgear would have ever changed anything.

[modest mantle]

Cleanse was updated to remove Morrigan's Curse, so that's why I mentioned that event specifically. Prior to that it was only Ambrosia or Rebirth (and I think Dispel).

Since Rebirth is locked to the ★8 Manticore Hood for magic users, so naturally it's not going to receive much attention. The stats on Beastfelled gear are much better though, and could result in more players utilizing it with either healing ability over Barrier.

Rebirth is also amazing for Hard Mode dungeons because it removes stat debuffs as well.

[covert gorge]

I'm also against cleanse tbf, not because is detrimental to vahlallans but because you already have followers that can cast it successfully, like themis that slso gives DC

Either put rebirth instead of barrier as an upgrade to manticore hood or a buff that was achievable only through specific pet or something unavailable to players (like scout weakness)

[modest mantle]

I was just defending the idea of it being useful for players in general. Between the two, I'd rather have Rebirth for sure.

Agreed on Scout Weakness; I think there are 1 or 2 followers that have it, but that's it. Right now, only enemies have Focus, so either of those would be "new" and also more helpful than Barrier.

[covert gorge]

Yeah would be cool to have a unique buff per class type armor

With unique i mean of difficult accessibility

[modest mantle]

I guess that means mages are technically covered by Manticore Hood...

Scout Weakness for Thief head, Focus for Warrior head?

Or maybe we can get second versions of Ponder, Outwill, Threaten, etc. since we have Sharpen II and Exploit II now.

[covert gorge]

Warriors might like bloodlust, thematically accurate with lyncus main buff

[modest mantle]

No, they already got T. Att ↑↑ & ↑↑↑ 😅

Agreed, though; That would be in theme and valued. If not Bloodlust, then there's Onslaught from Manticore--less useful but also low access.

[covert gorge]

wish it was onslaught as a gs, manticore got swordplay

[random zephyr]

Ponder;

Could be ponder2 for T.magic2

Barrier;

I'd prefer blessed shield imo

The rest of the gear idk XD

[vagrant egret]

Onslaught imo would be really nice

[rugged knot]

Bloodlust fits the theme a bunch and blessed shield would be a better defensive alternative. Maybe give bloodlust to thieves and b.shield to warriors?

[rugged knot]

Trying to juggle these with deific and frenzy is crazy though 😭

[stiff bloom]

Looks like some people forgot aaru armor exist 😹

[young sentinel]

has wyvern speed 3 been mentioned yet? 😅

i kind of like how it's a bit in line with the beast theme, but it's almost the same thing as focus except with dex

[main wave]

50% for dex, att, mag, def,res.

[young sentinel]

i don't think that's what ws3 does?

[ripe rapids]

90% for att+/mag+/dex+

[blazing musk]

I think it'd be better to do something like sigils or something to debuff the enemy for the robes just cause even with mag ^^ its still just gonna be worse than the aaru robes, not the either is bad it just gets outpaced by a significantly weaker raid boss in a different month and I like the idea of trying to open up builds down high anguish

[random zephyr]

I was thinking you'd use it instead of dullahan cloak for T.magic2

Since you can get T.magic3 from lugus or other sources

I'm not against sigils though, would be cool to see sigil+

[blazing musk]

Ah I see that'd probably be more convenient for summons guaranteed proc

[random zephyr]

Good for hera as well

Since you can merlin pot for garenteed T.magic3, or rely on lugus

Stack T.magic1-3, and other things

Can't go wrong with T.magic2 tbh, and could just be a budget option till thronemakers at the very least

[ebon hemlock]

Feral claws buffs?

[shell knoll]

Cleanse would be awkward to have, bc what I am I suppose to do with all my Panacea if I have cleanse?

[ebon hemlock]

That's more rebirth since cleanse doesn't clear stat downs

[shell knoll]

Panacea covers both of them

[hollow reef]

Onslaught is actually a really interesting option. I've always been worried about making it too consistent on support followers, not sure how that would play out.

[random zephyr]

Onslaught would be cool

Cause I like the idea teaching pets/summons moves like swordplay XD

Like giving a TM to a pokemon

[ebon hemlock]

🥸

[main wave]

No hope. More beo stuff tho

[rugged knot]

Aaru armor will lock me out of sharpen 3 🤔

[dreamy mica]

Since the lyncus is immune to the Lyonesse sigil what if the head gear lets your pet use that skill? So there could be a more versatile lynnworm

[modest mantle]

You would need the Mark and Execution skills or it would be pointless.

Although Lyon's Mark doubles as a Holy Sigil, I guess.

[hollow reef]

Really? That is a piece of trivia that I did not expect to learn in a beastfelled topic.

[ebon hemlock]

That's cool and all, but feral claws/ravage buffs?

[hazy night]

Nah

[ebon hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/boooooo-this-guy-stinks-serious-spongebob-squarepants-gif-11981386

[stiff bloom]

Greedy fookers, just focus on your 2 hand shield 🫵😹

[rugged knot]

Imma do both now 😡 😡

[modest mantle]

The solution is a 2H Shield that passively provides T. Att ↑↑↑ and teaches followers Blessed Shield

[red cypress]

Pls yes

[ebon hemlock]

Ravage/Feral classes buff?

🥲

[main wave]

https://tenor.com/view/aww-hell-nahh-aww-hell-aww-hell-nahh-gif-9659330954843262630

[rugged knot]

Yes ravage should be buffed immediately (just got my first ornate arisen feral claws but it has nothing to do with this legit just trust me)

Next patch: fafnir now relentlessly annihilating players but no change to feral claws

[soft jolt]

179 Lyncus, still no Cuirass 😐

[main wave]

183 still no Ornate BF Garb

[soft jolt]

Gloom despair and agony on me, woaaah

Showing my age with that one

[mild nest]

My best garb is still only 158%

[ebon hemlock]

I'm just here to show off and be annoying

[modest mantle]

All I'm really missing are bristles that are Superior or better. Cat King is being awfully selfish with his whiskers even though I put him down as humanely as possible.

[covert gorge]

That's why, you do it humanely, I sock him in the mouth for 14 turns with bugganes

[modest mantle]

I just give him a shot or two of anesthesia (read: bomb him with Omniflask) so he doesn't have to suffer long.

[modest mantle]

I picture a full squad of Bugganes as mafia henchmen breaking kneecaps for loan money

[covert gorge]

It's not that far from it, you just have to picture a great peg and fey kelpie in the back for support

[modest mantle]

Trampling what's left of the enemy after the Buggane beatdown

[covert gorge]

exactly

[ebon hemlock]

Feral Claws/Ravage buffs please

🙏

[slender helm]

It is a bit sad we had momentum with the ravage change and then nothing

[mild nest]

It was slightly buffed -

[upper ibex]

we've had first buff, but what about perhaps a second buff as well?

[ebon hemlock]

I don't even consider that a buff, I consider that a fix 🥸

[fleet light]

It was so bad that thats considered a buff

[slender helm]

Have it apply toxic/rot/zerk 2 and now we're talking.

[covert gorge]

I don't think odie knows what a second buff is (semi quote)

Guaranteed hit on 2 enemies and higher chance to bounce

[upper ibex]

IF it hit all targets and gave those debuffs it would make sense lol

[main wave]

- Ravage: now hits 2 targets but will close the game and lock the phone.

[random zephyr]

Ravage now does dmg cap on 5 enemies garenteed!!!

But you instantly die upon use, bypasses second chance

[upper ibex]

Another win for BeoH mains

[warped agate]

Lets bring it back we still have time.

[warped agate]

Also uninstalls Discord.

[rugged knot]

Thats objectively a major buff since we'd spend less time yapping and more time farming 📈

[warped agate]

EXACTLY.

[main wave]

"The RAVAGE Situation is CRAZY"

[prime sparrow]

If Ravage is to receive a buff, we're almost out of time for it to happen.

I don't think it's going to 😔

It's going to remain just not good enough, because of the high likelyhood you only hit one enemy and then you just die.

[pastel forge]

༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ SUMMON RAVAGE BUFF ༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ

[slender helm]

༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ SUMMON RAVAGE BUFF ༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ

[vernal pecan]

༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ SUMMON RAVAGE BUFF ༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ

[vagrant egret]

༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ SUMMON RAVAGE BUFF ༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ

[ebon hemlock]

༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ SUMMON RAVAGE BUFF ༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ

[cloud depot]

༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ SUMMON RS NERF ༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ

[mortal light]

༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ SUMMON RAVAGE BUFF ༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ

[covert gorge]

༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ SUMMON RAVAGE BUFF ༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ

[digital jacinth]

༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ RAVAGE SUMMONER BUFF ༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ

[upper ibex]

༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ SUMMON RAVAGE BUFF ༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ

[lime moon]

༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ RAVAGE SUMMON BUFF ༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ

[warped agate]

༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ SUMMON RAVAGE BUFF ༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ

[main wave]

https://tenor.com/view/wojak-soyjak-its-over-its-just-getting-started-its-not-over-gif-8055865700776264813