Shackles Rework Discussion

[young summit]

Could be interesting to add a tower shard karmic boost

[lament wolf]

If we get 2/3 extra bars it might be worth having. Have that boost cost 2/3 instead of one. Just because towers are so lucrative as is. Lots of options for more expensive boosts.

Could even have the 1-3 bar idea and have each boost give a certain amount of power depending on how much you spend

[obsidian garden]

I feel like at high anguish we can use this bar quite often.
Having segments would be cool :o

[woven niche]

In keeping with the voluntary difficulty = rewards theme, what if there was an accessory literally called "Ascension Shackle" (in addition to shackles via menu) that decreased AL by a % while equipped (after other reductions) during anguish content, say 40%, gave something like +1 proof roll/enemy, and was purchasable from the anguish shop.

[obsidian garden]

The general idea sounds fun.

Hey, Odie just called this shacklegate #1377194080718553150 message

Can we rename this thread please?

[midnight quail]

I really like the shackle rework, but one thing I don't understand:
If you play shackled you have 100% anguished gear chance; however, once your true AL is below the allowed AL, you only get the "unshackled" bonus. This appears strange to me for 2 reasons:

• Misincentive: In the current situation, for gear farming (raids) you have a strong incentive to play shackled below your max difficulty (so that you still have 100% ang gear chance) - not because higher Anguish is more difficult, but because higher Anguish is less rewarding.
• Difficulty: In my understanding, shackled you get the bonus because you play extra hard content. However, if you have less ALs than allowed by shackles, the content is even more difficult - but you get the lower "unshackled" rewards.
  -> Wouldn't it make more sense to have the "shackled bonus" in any situation where you don't use more ALs than allowed in the "shackled" Anguish level?

[turbid basalt]

100% should currently be the no-shackle-needed bonus as well as shackled

[midnight quail]

From Ang6 to Ang 7, the anguished gear chance drops from 100% to 13.2%, because I don't have enough ALs (in the beta).

[flint warren]

Ah frick, sorry Odie, I forgot to report that 😅
(As per #orn-discussion message )

[violet wharf]

What if the orn bonus was additive to anguished bonus for orns?

[merry bobcat]

Then you have to farm AL in order to get shackled.
It's the Ang->AL->Ang->AL grinding loop, unless you decide to stay at some point

[random bridge]

Don't suppose that's the goal tho as Odie tries to incentivize shackling. If you shackle under the max al you are basically doing more work