#GS PVP

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rotund quail
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base protect chance seems to be around 10% and with max protect it's around 20

stark saffron
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Time for ward gs

rotund quail
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ward doesnt do a whole lot if they can just oneshot you because you have really low hp

stark saffron
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So we're RS?

rotund quail
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because of GS's shitty base hp it's pretty difficult to prevent getting oneshot

stark saffron
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And somewhat beo?

rotund quail
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we're rs but without the dex

radiant moth
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I think summoner should arguably be the squishiest class

rotund quail
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and a low protect chance ig

radiant moth
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Makes sense to be easiest to kill you are just a guy standing there

stark saffron
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Yeah but we're not just a guy standing there

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We're a guy with two bigger guys just standing there.

radiant moth
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I think some reworking could happen later on so some summons have a higher chance to block

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Stuff like golems

stark saffron
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I feel like the better nerf would be an HP cost every trigger of batallions rather than nerfing the proc chance

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Or a partial mitigation

radiant moth
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I'm not a brainless monster im a human

stark saffron
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Battalion procs you still eat like 25% of the damage

stark saffron
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Jkjk

radiant moth
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lol

rotund quail
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I think pvp offense is fine now, although it'd probably be kinda shitty if eos arms get nerfed. Defense is imo nerfed a bit too much but I hope it's enough to stop the GS hate.

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honestly idc too much about pvp

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my main issue rn is that GS is overall in a bad spot

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but I guess that's not the topic of this thread

stark saffron
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We could make a new one

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But I feel like that would stir the pot too much

rotund quail
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before the patch GS was a class that was mediocre at everything except pvp and endless. Now we're mediocre at everything except endless kekw

rotund quail
stark saffron
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You underestimate my power

rotund quail
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use your anime waifu pfp powers

stark saffron
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This is why I should be GS orn just sayin'

heavy sky
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I thought raiding was good with GS because of ultima and elysians balance or something

rotund quail
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it's okay. Definitely still worse than heretic, realm and gilga, maybe beoH too. Maybe better than deity tho idk

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on heretic I can just use fey chim. On GS my summons can't increase my damage, except anubis with the sigils but that's like 15% I think

stark saffron
rotund quail
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if that interaction between ultima and elysian balance ever gets nerfed we're screwed tho

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rhada GS is super slow and blood pact is still slow because of how long it takes to set up

heady owl
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I thought gsh was better for raids because of the 75% bonus for killing summons? I usually just let the raid bosses kill those and its ok

plush bobcat
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I agree with this statement. Offense is still easy.

stark saffron
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Wish I could personally test that kek

rotund quail
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if yu're not actively killing them

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base GS is imo way better at raiding atm

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passive takes too long to proc

stark saffron
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Passive should just be # of summons = amount of bonus

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Gilga inspired set up

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It's a similar pace to RS who probably opens with berserk and buffs along the way so their HP is the right level of medium rare by the time it's done cooking, Gilga can just WoL3 and max passive, heretic just wears all the mana saver nukes, ezpz passive gains.

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Admittedly don't know how beo sets up their redline

ocean pumice
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quad edge if you have it

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alternatively, let yourself get hit by the raid so you don't have to spend 9 turns on double edge

stark saffron
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That's rough

rotund quail
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full gsh passive is 4 turns + 1-4 turns. Summon dead -> achlys -> summon dead -> achlys -> resummon your starting summon. Then summon the other 3 summons which can take 3-12 turns

ocean pumice
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well for world raids you can just start low hp on every raid after the first one, and kingdom raids you usually hit kingdom raid limit before you finish setting up anyway

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so it's not that bad

dim shale
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well if it's in terms of MW levels of territories then i definitely don't lol, i only protect like a 5km circle not like MW that drives 6 digit kms/miles

heady owl
rotund quail
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fully charged GSH passive vs base GS

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base GS still wins

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fallen sky cowl / onc, heretics robe, fallen sky shoes

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I dont even understand how base GS is doingmore there

dim shale
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balance passive op?

rotund quail
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I thought it was a 1.69x multiplier but GSH passive should be more than that

rotund quail
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Nvm im dumb lol, forgot 40% crit amity on gsh mimic

heavy sky
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Bro