Force all players (across all modes) on 0.5-1ads (Discussed with Glen & Comp Admins)

[harsh bramble]

Since everyone there uses 0ads

[haughty cobalt]

@tired flume will you guys give any changes so that leaderboard scores are registered?

[carmine plaza]

there is an existing preset so that could just have an ads slider

[harsh bramble]

That’s why I’m against it being implemented on all areas of the game

[carmine plaza]

@harsh bramble

[harsh bramble]

Yes but not to implement it at all to custom maps

[lusty marten]

oh great then

[hardy lodge]

or that can have slide speed slider instead

[carmine plaza]

im sure the nuance can be figured out if this was actually being implemented

[lusty marten]

i keep saying this, you cant have the same exact game and everyone happy

no matter what you do, some group will be disappointed

[harsh bramble]

No implement this but first off 0.5 is absurd 0.3 would make more sense only if it’s limited to COMP AND PUBS not custom maps

[hardy lodge]

.86 slide speed for comp and .96 for pubs

and 1x for custom maps

[lusty marten]

0.86 is barely any acceleration

[carmine plaza]

slowly incrementing it is probably the best way to go about this idea

but 0.3 is too low for it to be a permanent feature

[hardy lodge]

.9 then

whatever is optimal

[haughty cobalt]

i agree with what tyraxes said , limit it to pubs and competitive only . even as someone who doesnt play parkour i think they deserve adjustable 0-1 ads

[hardy lodge]

and does the job

[lusty marten]

still too low

[carmine plaza]

ye

[lusty marten]

0.95

[carmine plaza]

i agree with u guys on that too

but that sort of nuance can be figured out later

[hardy lodge]

🤔

[tired flume]

custom games has no kr involved, u can make maps on krunkscript with flash bangs should still be allowed

[harsh bramble]

If it could be implemented in that manner I’d have 0 issue with it although any other way

[steel sail]

💀

I put my input in bro, yall decide what to do

[carmine plaza]

idk if u saw my long ass response to what u said

[steel sail]

nah

lemme checm

[tired flume]

It's actually easier to spot cheats on 1 ads than 0 ads fun fact, ads power was added in 2020 september at 0.2

[steel sail]

ok wtf

[tired flume]

then later increased to 0 later in 2021

[haughty cobalt]

will adjusting to higher ads be that hard for you?

[daring fulcrum]

??

[tired flume]

@prime snow brought up mandated 1 ads for HTR for a while now

[daring fulcrum]

thats not ewhat im talking about

[carmine plaza]

think hes just talking about how people used scripts to bypass the minimum ads power of 0.2 or 0.3

[tired flume]

oh ya if u cheat u get banned idk

same with sky script and no fog in comp servers

i dont think people that have a clean track record will just start cheating

[haughty cobalt]

sky script is bannable?

[daring fulcrum]

oh but they did

[hardy lodge]

half a decade too late for doing allat shit

[tired flume]

in comp discords it is

[daring fulcrum]

tons of clean people started scripting for 0 ads

because nobody wanted to play on 0.3

[haughty cobalt]

i see , thank you

[tired flume]

It's because they knew it was hard for devs to enforce

[daring fulcrum]

its because the change was shit

[tired flume]

This would be a very small problem at least in tournaments for us

sure u can have fun in ranked

[daring fulcrum]

the problem isnt that its hard to enforce

[prime snow]

0 ads cheats have existed for a very long time

[steel sail]

you answered more of presli than me, but dyk where im coming from

[daring fulcrum]

the problem is that the change was so hated that people with completely clean track records started using cheats and bypasses just to revert the change

[carmine plaza]

ye

[prime snow]

Hard to enforce without recordings

[carmine plaza]

i understand almost everyones view points

[hardy lodge]

also the insane hate wave

[daring fulcrum]

enforcing isnt the issue lol

are u just ragebaiting

[tired flume]

Adding to the first paragraph, in other games a 70% hs on kills is crazy insane. It's common world in Krunker because of how the TTK is set up, making that harder just increases the ceiling

[daring fulcrum]

and makes low tier games way more annoying to play

i doubt the average staz member is worrying about peekers advantage and smg tracking on 250 speed while pushing site

[tame gulch]

^

[steel sail]

😭✌️

[steel sail]

@shy moat is bro wdym

I wanna hear xCirno's take on this.

[daring fulcrum]

get dbu3 on the case

[steel sail]

this gon effect @silent talon hella bro

u cool w this?

[lusty marten]

@woeful sparrow

[hardy lodge]

yea there are 1000 diff changes which can be made to make the game alot better and not piss people off at the same time

💀

[daring fulcrum]

fix rp and MM

[steel sail]

matchmaking would feed families

[hardy lodge]

just make pubs better fix some stuff in ranked and sutff and nobody will complain about all this bullshit

nobody is complaining rn either

[steel sail]

25 people are

[hardy lodge]

except a extremely small minority of people

[woeful sparrow]

@ceaf settings?

[hybrid reef]

Fix what

[carmine plaza]

uhh

10k

[woeful sparrow]

banning u from the cshair server

[steel sail]

@carmine plaza settings

[woeful sparrow]

im ceo check it

[prime snow]

It's definitely a Pandora's box situation

[hardy lodge]

adding stuff to grind
fixing spawn trapping
fixing ranked match making
adding a better way of resetting seasons instead of a full reset

[daring fulcrum]

matchmaking ranked points bad spawns

[hardy lodge]

nobodys will complain about these and itll make the game alot better

[hybrid reef]

How do you want to tackle bad spawns

[daring fulcrum]

i shouldnt go from qb64 and agario3 to free wifi after touching g3-plat

[woeful sparrow]

+rep

[daring fulcrum]

and games are just gambling atp

[hardy lodge]

all those spots can be reworked like the site spawntrap and others

[daring fulcrum]

what do u want me to do man

[hybrid reef]

Thats somewhat of a playerbase issue though

[daring fulcrum]

@hybrid reef can u carry me

[steel sail]

couldnt of said it better myself 🥹

[woeful sparrow]

we aint care

[daring fulcrum]

--rep @woeful sparrow

[steel sail]

how do u send pictures

[daring fulcrum]

@hardy lodge can u ban him from plaza

[woeful sparrow]

go to #media

[hybrid reef]

Go next

[steel sail]

i cant send sbit

[silver lion]

ceaf can you coach me

pls

[hardy lodge]

what

[daring fulcrum]

-c 6+7+41+6+7

result: 67.00000

[steel sail]

?mute @daring fulcrum 1d n word

[daring fulcrum]

chill

[hybrid reef]

Yeah how

[daring fulcrum]

!fix @all @everyone

spawning on site when 3 people are on site is probably fixable

[woeful sparrow]

@leololo what do u think

[daring fulcrum]

spawntrapping cant be fixed and honestly very easy to counter in ranked

[woeful sparrow]

@mosswi

[steel sail]

@moritz give ur thoughts would ya

[hybrid reef]

@pge pls bless us up

[silent quest]

i like the passion guys

[hybrid reef]

Im so passionate

[hardy lodge]

the site one can just be put behind the boxes instead and others can be done the same way by reloacting them in the same area or slightly reworking the specific parts of the maps

[hardy lodge]

ping vokus too omg

[silent quest]

what are we considering bad spawns

[daring fulcrum]

@demise pls kr

[silver lion]

devil why you feel its overpweored

[silent quest]

like spawn traps

[silver lion]

this ads

[silent quest]

or them being predictable

[daring fulcrum]

when im about to hit site with 3 of my teammates and the entire team spawns on

[hardy lodge]

its a necessity with the current fast paced movement so just nerfing the movement instead makes more sense

but they dont want to do that

coz they prefer not to piss off the movement andys

but would happily piss of others

[daring fulcrum]

spawntraps should not be removed

they're easy to counter and fun to utilizee

bad spawns should be fixed

like what happened 2 tourneys ago

entire team jumping onto empty site and everyone just spawns on them

[silent quest]

spawntraps are NOT easy to counter what

the whole thing is that you spawn looking in the middle of nowhere whilst they have a preaim

[hybrid reef]

Scytheak spawntrap

Have fun

[silent quest]

i agree with the second part though

[hybrid reef]

Phantom around the map

[silent quest]

my goat

[daring fulcrum]

ur just noob

[hybrid reef]

I dont think

[daring fulcrum]

yup

hes noob

[hybrid reef]

You have played against prime

Scytheak

He made me homeless

[daring fulcrum]

uhh dont really know who that is

oh wait i think i remember him

i nuked on him in faceit i believe

[hybrid reef]

🤞

[tired flume]

Experiments done with 1 ADS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVCeq3YQnLA&list=PLLIe5ajJNIW5siHr70UMoCtkLEXqGHcqn

Unfortunately don't have the feedback for this

but if u guys just like watching krunker

[tired flume]

since the old discord got deleted

[silent quest]

everyone was playing way different 2 years ago though tbf

[hybrid reef]

^

[tired flume]

ya less knowledge

this is basically 3 years ago

1v1 done with 1 ADS (1 day ago): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z62Eu_ijMMA

[steel sail]

worst i seen him play

ironic

[carmine plaza]

im on 70cm bro

if i wanted to play better i just up my sens

and anyway the whole point of the change is to make the game harder

[steel sail]

@carmine plaza can u send the reason to my dms pls, im on phone ans its gonna take ao long to scroll to the top

[steel sail]

lowk why if the goal should be to support krunkers growth

newer players will just fuck right off

[humble schooner]

What message are you looking for

[carmine plaza]

where are u getting this from im so confused

[steel sail]

the very first one

[mellow depot]

Bro

[steel sail]

if i open a game, and its supposedly too hard to play because i dont jave a chance to learn it how i want to play it, then i wont

[mellow depot]

the whole point is to make the game harder

[steel sail]

really mucnutty 🤤🧌

[humble schooner]

This?

[carmine plaza]

new players wouldnt know if they wanted to play on a lower ads or not because it was never an option for them

and its healthy for a competitive game to be hard

[steel sail]

is that the one which explains why this should be integrated

[steel sail]

yk what fair enough

[mellow depot]

I’m pretty sure it’s not even that hard to aim on 1 ads bro

ur just complaining

[steel sail]

ur glazing man

[mellow depot]

I’m genuinely not 😭😭

I just wouldn’t force it on 1 ads

I’d force it on .5

[steel sail]

id set the preset setting onto 0.5 with the option to change it to whatever whenever

instead of 1

[hybrid trail]

So basically yall want to change hardpoint so players that don’t get as much kills still have impact if they just stack, but then you also want to make it harder for those same players to get kills neutralizing the added impact they would get from stacking

[carmine plaza]

the obj idea is completely seperate to this

they are both different ideas that could help towards tackling tdming and pushouts

but we never said both would be added if either one was

[hardy lodge]

not everyone is on 1 ads 💀

majority of the people go to yt videos and copy peoples settings

[steel sail]

who still does ts ✋️😭🤚

[hardy lodge]

thats the easiest way for em

to get decent settings

still this throws everyone away even most of the low t2 t3 people and others who have been playing for ages

[steel sail]

fuck

[hardy lodge]

after playing for 1-2-3-4 years they are suddenly thrown onto this bs making em bad again and start from start

also not everyone can adapt easily

most will just say fuck it and dip

[steel sail]

true

true as heck

[hardy lodge]

coz for them ur basically stabbing them in the back when they have spent years trying to get better

so why would they stay

not even why would why should they stay

thats the question

[steel sail]

flipping the whole dynamic of a game so suddenly is crazy

just implement the .5 default ads and see how that goes

[hardy lodge]

all the t1 andys and t2 high / mid t2s can easily adapt to 2 diff ways of playing the game more easily than the entire playerbase adapting to .5

also low ads is a thing for pretty much half a decade now if not more

just coz 20-30 t1 andys want a change u cant shake the entire core of the game

[hardy lodge]

bcoz of shit like this being done in the past we are here today

with a player base of 500 concurrent

theres no need to take it down to 50 with some " hope this fixes it " bullshit

anyways blitz coooked with his thread we can move on there and forget ab ts

😃

[carmine plaza]

maybe u can go to sleep now

😭

[hardy lodge]

its 9:40

💀

[carmine plaza]

uve been at it since 4am ur time

[hardy lodge]

12

[carmine plaza]

uhh

🤨

[hardy lodge]

well i wasnt here when all the cw bs happened gotta make up for it

[carmine plaza]

i mean fair enough

i genuinely dont have the energy to keep up

[hardy lodge]

also i can just pull another all nighter if needed 😃 and then directly go to gym after 💪

[carmine plaza]

@tired flume 😭 😭

u got the night shift bro

[hardy lodge]

nope

we can pack it up

and move to blitz's thread

and let him cook

[carmine plaza]

how do u have 200 more messages than me

[humble schooner]

It's flipbait's I think

[carmine plaza]

im genuinely at a loss of words

[humble schooner]

Blitz just posted for him

[hardy lodge]

ahh

[cerulean hearth]

🎷 🐛

[tired flume]

LOL

[harsh bramble]

a 2k word thread is brazy

[tired flume]

just think guns should zoom 👉 👈

[carmine plaza]

@tired flume dude this was made in response to our thread and then proceeds to talk about spawntraps which we arent aiming to fix here

and people like devil just eat it up

[harsh bramble]

zoom in comp and pubs alone agree but not affect custom maps also to a degree not a straight jump from 0-0.5

[tired flume]

custom maps i agree

they arent worth kr and u have maps where u can fly around

[tired flume]

yeah for sure 0 -> 0.5 is a huge adjustment

I wouldn't mind 0 -> 0.2/0.3

[tired flume]

yeah

@muted vale isn't involved enough imo

[harsh bramble]

if it can be done in increments + in a way where all the custom maps dont need to be remade just to tweak 1 setting idm this suggestion

[cerulean hearth]

Please don’t change ads

[carmine plaza]

i think we were just talking about the viability, but the nuance can be sorted pretty easily

[harsh bramble]

since people would need to rehost the maps with non-default settings which in return would just not allow lb times and so on

[carmine plaza]

ofc u dont want it bro u play 0ads semi 😭

top 10 things that should not exist

[cerulean hearth]

What 😭

[harsh bramble]

iim not sure how krunker code works and if its even possible

[carmine plaza]

hm

[harsh bramble]

i play 0 ads semi 😢

its kinda 🔥

[carmine plaza]

yea but it shouldnt exist

[cerulean hearth]

Imagine drying to aim at a boulder at .5 or 1 ads bro 😭

[carmine plaza]

same with 0ads sniper

[carmine plaza]

alright them remove boulder man

[harsh bramble]

i said that its not viable

[cerulean hearth]

THIS I agree

[harsh bramble]

they cant

[cerulean hearth]

It part of eterno lore

[carmine plaza]

yeh

im dead

[harsh bramble]

people have skins attatched to the item

u gotta remove all skins then

and compensate all owners

[carmine plaza]

what i meant was remove it from ranked

[harsh bramble]

it isnt an issue in ranked

[cerulean hearth]

Pubs would still be aids tho

[harsh bramble]

its pubs

[carmine plaza]

ohhh

[harsh bramble]

where we have uncapped speed

[carmine plaza]

good comms

[tired flume]

boulder low key a good argument

i didnt even think abt that

[carmine plaza]

fax

[tired flume]

but then they also wouldnt be able to aim at u that well either

[carmine plaza]

but the real question is why does that shit even exist

[tired flume]

at least with weapon swap

[harsh bramble]

ye it would be a waste of time targeting them lmao

just ignore em

[cerulean hearth]

There’s a clip me and Sebas recording for t2 and I was on boulder literally in front of two people and they couldn’t kill me

[harsh bramble]

let them zoom in peace

[carmine plaza]

presli typing up a storm

[cerulean hearth]

he stops

[carmine plaza]

he needs time to think

[harsh bramble]

[tired flume]

do u agree tho @cerulean hearth that guns should zoom in at least

[hardy lodge]

also all guns have 500 less bullets

now

[tired flume]

Doesn't matter how much

[harsh bramble]

its gotta be a banger of an argument that we cant counter

[tired flume]

At least 10-20 fov lower

[carmine plaza]

i hope so

then i can go home

[cerulean hearth]

I believe only sniper

That’s it

[tired flume]

hmm ok

[cerulean hearth]

As CSGO

You can’t zoom in on any weapons except sniper hence the name sniper

[carmine plaza]

the Fucking 5k gun

thats literally a semi

i forgot what its called

that scopes in like a sniper too

[hardy lodge]

wait i forgot cs doesnt have ads power

[cerulean hearth]

Scout

[hardy lodge]

awww hell nah

[tired flume]

csgo has spray patterns tho

not 30 bullets hitscan

like first 3 bullets are hitscan ig then u have to control

[cerulean hearth]

But we have movement

[tired flume]

and hitscan meaning u fully stand still

[hardy lodge]

they dont have chromebook players if they did they wouldnt have any either

[tired flume]

true

[carmine plaza]

this fkn thing

[hardy lodge]

😭

[cerulean hearth]

On dust 2 spamming down mid through double doors 😭

[carmine plaza]

fax

but u know what im saying

its high damage semi auto

and it has zoom

[tired flume]

well when the devs made ads, it was made in the intention to be like cod

[cerulean hearth]

Which makes it broken

[carmine plaza]

well it kind of has to be broken if it costs 5k

same with awp

but u counter them with util

[hardy lodge]

semi sniper can have forced zoom a little bit thats manageable to an extent

[carmine plaza]

cause its a different game

sniper and semi should be countered by fast movement

[cerulean hearth]

Yeah expensive as hell

[carmine plaza]

if ur on 0ads its easier to track someone moving fast

or low ads

[tired flume]

This just increase the ceiling imo

I don't think people like that

[cerulean hearth]

My brother is still typing 😭

[tired flume]

people never like that

[carmine plaza]

semi should never be able to be played like u do

[carmine plaza]

LOL

[tired flume]

bro there is a line limit @outer flame

[hybrid trail]

What ab when Paris played high ads sniper in that 3v3 and monstered everyone

[harsh bramble]

let him cook

[cerulean hearth]

I would argue 😭

[tired flume]

paris is an outlier tho

[hardy lodge]

so how u gonna track someone moving just as fast as before and being zoomed the fuck in
not you the average andy

[carmine plaza]

i mean hes just the best at what he does

hes just mastered the gun

[tired flume]

back then u'd have to learn different zoom fovs

[carmine plaza]

but at least it isnt accessible to everyone

it takes actual skill

[tired flume]

now anyone can just put it at 0 or 0.2

and be chilling

[cerulean hearth]

Semi with 0ads is still balanced with 8 bullets

[tired flume]

i guess u can argue it's a good thing

variety of classes

[cerulean hearth]

And 90 health

[tired flume]

and styles

[carmine plaza]

wtf!!?

[harsh bramble]

u play with 0 ads?

[hardy lodge]

not with the current version of it 😭

[tired flume]

i play with 0 -> 0.2

[hardy lodge]

they gotta undo that buff

[muted vale]

This is not made in response to this or other threads

Yet another argument pulled out of thin air

[harsh bramble]

hmm ok same 0ads for all classes 0.1 for sniper

[carmine plaza]

"treating the symptons" u later go on to say the underlying issue is spawn trapping

[hybrid trail]

Mozz has about 1000 words typed up by now

[outer flame]

firstly, everthing back then supported 1 ads- lower overall skill, less and slower inputs, bigger hitboxes and more forgiving reg. now youre just trying to apply this 1 ads to game thats way faster and more movementy (push-offs, pushes and roams). u cant treat old 1 ads like 2025 1 ads. they are different experiences
you are saying 0 ads forces everyone to play the same but higher ads does the same thing, just slower? all u r doing is lowering movement potential- whats left is just way more slow peeks, holding and semi & rev (which are already the most op) which is NOT what makes krunker fun to people
lmg and smg wont really be buffed- they depend on movement advantage- sure they can still go fast in a line but youre just getting rid of mobility while aiming (u could argue that bambino ran aroudn and shot at people on high ads but he wont be able to do that merely as well in 2025) which was what helped vs other guns which are already better in mid and long ranged fights.
also changing ads now and fixing guns after is backwards. rn u r nerfing movement, forcing way more slower and longer ranged fights and THEN trying to fix it

[harsh bramble]

🔥

acutal goat time to read

[hardy lodge]

fr

[carmine plaza]

my eyes are too tired

bare with

this might take a min

[muted vale]

??? How does this relate to what you claimed?

[hardy lodge]

nahh

[humble schooner]

ceaf what time is it for you

[hardy lodge]

lock in

[carmine plaza]

are u deadass?

[muted vale]

Yes

[tired flume]

Look at the original post

[muted vale]

You say i make something in response to you

[carmine plaza]

let me respond to mozz first

[tired flume]

There is videos with new hitboxes (well not new but hitbox padding)

[muted vale]

Or a suggestion

[tired flume]

to see how the game is played

[muted vale]

Where do you base that off?

[tired flume]

1 ADS just made players have to think more

[harsh tide]

now that im watching this it doesnt seem that bad

[cerulean hearth]

Said like a king

[tired flume]

and I like as a viewer watching players think

[harsh bramble]

presli u kinda cooked

[muted vale]

Simply bcs i reference to somrthingm

[tired flume]

🙌

It really isn't bad

[harsh bramble]

😭

[tired flume]

I think the players that are feeling uneasy are the ones that will adjust the fastest to this

outside of @timber ivy

sry

[harsh tide]

lowk im gonna change my vote i feel like if you guys tested it more it could work

[harsh bramble]

we lost 1 🫡

[brave harbor]

Practice, put an option to add bots in a custom game ig

[cerulean hearth]

Aww

[tired flume]

@cerulean hearth u made a bold claim

earlier

that i didnt forget abt

u mentioned 0 ads semi takes skill

do u think u could do the same at 0.5 ads

with ur playstyle

[hybrid trail]

If the objective of this is purely ro make the game harder it’s gonna kill the game rather than nurture it and it’s gonna turn out like quake

[tired flume]

and would u test this in a nack match or ranked

[hybrid trail]

With 5 ppl having 5k hours on it gatekeeping it

[cerulean hearth]

No

I play 75 fov

Imagine 75+.5

[harsh bramble]

oh god thats cooked

[tired flume]

I think having 1 ads / 0.5 ads, gives new players a chance

[hardy lodge]

im putting the perspective of average andys they spent 1-2-3-4 years playing the game and trying to get better at it slowly and steadily and 1 day 20 people come in shake the entire core of the game and expect everyone to adapt those people will just feel betrayed and just dip why would people stay and carry on playing the game which changes the entire playstyle for 20 people's liking

[carmine plaza]

not sure why u think 1ads appeals to lower skill when it makes the game harder. Also 0 ads does force everyone to play 1 way because the only way to counter 0ads is to abuse peekers and swing them before u. Whereas u can still play fast on 1ads as seen through players such as bambino and m2ch on guns that should be played fast, but it also promotes slow play with guns that should be slow. I highly doubt lvpez can fly in on semi like he does in his videos on 1ads. And bambino showed what was possible, people do get worse over time but there are others such us new players who can surpass him. Also uhh, this isnt a movement nerf?

[tired flume]

What if you inreased your field of view?

[outer flame]

u just didnt read what i said

[cerulean hearth]

I tried before

[tired flume]

It's a bit harder right

[carmine plaza]

i guess i didnt?

[cerulean hearth]

It doesn’t work well

[tired flume]

My take is this

[carmine plaza]

i addressed it line by line

what did i miss

[hardy lodge]

" Whereas u can still play fast on 1ads as seen through players such as bambino and m2ch on guns that should be played fast "

not everyone is bambino and m2ch ur trying make this change in the entire game not comp

[tired flume]

I think ads power makes the game harder, I don't want to say 0 ads is no skill but it is easier than 1 ads and 0.5 ads

hence the stats

i can go through everybodies settings in this thread

[carmine plaza]

bro ts is not that hard bro

they arent gods

everyone is better nowadays than they was before

[hardy lodge]

it doesnt make sense with this fast of a movement

[hybrid trail]

Well from what ceaf said it seems he just wants to make the game harder and when a game is too hard it’s gonna turn out like quake

[carmine plaza]

its TOO easy

[tired flume]

I don't think 1 ads will make the game too hard

[carmine plaza]

making it 0.5 isnt even a big increase

[hardy lodge]

maybe for you not for everyone else

[hybrid trail]

Have you played ranked? It’s obviously not too easy for some ppl

Look at qb

Or femto

1000+ games and they haven’t improved

[carmine plaza]

those guys may actually stay low elo

[outer flame]

read what i said and your response you'll see

u r misinterpreting what i said

[cerulean hearth]

I agree but even 0ads your also not zooming in to technically seeing the zoom in or pretty much bigger target

[tired flume]

I think it will be harder for good players to kill femto and qb with 1 ads

they approeach their spawn and zoom in with 50 fov

[hardy lodge]

bcoz ur good at the game its like seeing who has better punches mike tyson or a school kid

ofc its easy for you and all other t1 andys

[carmine plaza]

why are u so allergic to a competitive game being hard

[strong valley]

2.5k messages in less than 24h is fun lmfao

[hardy lodge]

thats not the case for majority of the player base

[cerulean hearth]

Plus with movement changes because people still fly onto site

[tired flume]

well when u move and fly in, u eliminate most of the areas of where a player can be

[hardy lodge]

BECAUSE ur forcing this bullshit onto the casual playerbase who give zero flying fucks about comp

[tired flume]

think of like a box

[hybrid trail]

Wouldnt 1 ads make it easier to spawntrap since it would be harder for the ppl getting spawntrapped to kill the guy

[tired flume]

u want that box to be as small as possible so it is easier for ur crosshair

[carmine plaza]

first of all im not forcing anything

if this game wants to move in a competitive orientation

then like idk what to tell u

[harsh tide]

0.5 fixed or adjustable to 1?

[humble schooner]

This has been a very entertaining read

[hybrid trail]

Especially for worse players

[tired flume]

I don't believe so

[cerulean hearth]

But smaller box is harder to aim

Comes with that cutoff

[carmine plaza]

probably fixed, it doesnt really make sense for players to be able to be on different ads powers to others

[tired flume]

The cubby spawn trap has been known since 2020 pre ads (post movement)

it only saw more value after ads power

[harsh tide]

yeah i just tested it i mean .5 isnt bad but 1 is a bit much for me personally

[hybrid trail]

Bc that spawntrap requires the enemy to move a bit if you want to kill them consistently

What ab site and industry spawn trap

[hardy lodge]

it just doesnt fit in well with the game which is why we need 2 presets
half the kids play in schools and shit its a CASUAL game with majority of the playerbase being casuals
the longer they get ignored and not being considered into any of these descision makings the faster game will die and keep dying

[tired flume]

it's easier for them to slow peek u with ads

[tired flume]

we'd have to test it

look at the videos

in the original post

[carmine plaza]

i cant do this anymore bro 😭

[hardy lodge]

yes best way of playing pubs for most people would just be sit at spawns trapping them

[tired flume]

u will notice that spawn trapping becomes way more of a gamble

i asked pvlse and demise at the time to also play how they usually did

[carmine plaza]

@tired flume im tapping out

[tired flume]

ended up forcing themselves to play near site

[carmine plaza]

temporarily

asokra is subbing for me

[tired flume]

Alright I'll start the 4 hour shift

[carmine plaza]

preciate it

[hybrid trail]

Those videos have players that typically don’t utilize those spawntraps, pvlse back then did not tdm nearly as much as he does now

[hardy lodge]

its just the truth this this isnt a competitive game and u cant make it one no matter what happens coz all itll do is kill the game further
its just better to have 2 diff bases

[carmine plaza]

these guys gotta start paying devil more

its almost gonna be a full 24 hours now

[hardy lodge]

itll be fucking 48 soon i dont care coz all ik is this is bad for the game

[carmine plaza]

based on ur response to the other ticket

u have no idea what u are talking about

[hardy lodge]

im not the one trying to make a casual game into some competitive game

also i didnt compare it to other games either

[tired flume]

Fair point

[brave harbor]

I mean they could add it to comp but dont change it in pubs right?

[hardy lodge]

yes but they dont want to do it

they want to fuck everyone over instead

[carmine plaza]

w brainwashing

[brave harbor]

Well then just make a new challenge mode called competitive mode and add it fr

[hardy lodge]

and expect that everyone whos trying to get better at this game for past few years to just instantly get better and adapt to all these changes

[stuck matrix]

🍿

[hardy lodge]

• the comparisons of other games when none of em have same playerbase / anything else like krunker

[hardy lodge]

" 2 things cant co exist "
" pubs should adapt the way comp is played "

which is bullshit

[hardy lodge]

whats wrong in it

[brave harbor]

I agree that krunker is a very different game, I like being able to move fast alot. I don't play comp, so I don't know what this really changes. But if this is to be implemented then they should just make a new challenge mode that gives a kr % bonus or smth like that. This could also bring more players to the competitive side of krunker fr

[strong valley]

i should get a coffee and some popcorn and backread this shit, should be good enough to cover me till my class at noon

[tired flume]

ur concept of pubs is unhealthy

[humble schooner]

Worth it 😂

[strong valley]

exactlyyyy

[hardy lodge]

there are ways of making pubs a healthy experience which doesnt include them following the comp playstyle

i didnt say give me 4 guests every game so i can farm them

[outer flame]

theres customs for relaxing

[brave harbor]

Nah this kinda annoying tho them ai are too unpredictable

[tired flume]

and in those customs like @harsh bramble mentioned, there can be more of a sandbox with multiple ads

[brave harbor]

[tired flume]

pubs inherently are competitive if it is skill based

[outer flame]

these guys in pubs that can barely move are pretty competitive

[carmine plaza]

?? 😭

[tired flume]

yeah if they play against others that cant move either

silver ranked games in val are competitive

surprisingly

competition =/ best of the best

[hardy lodge]

dogshit ass bot

[hardy lodge]

newer players can be put into seprate lobbies

• multiple weapon balances and such
  and stuff to grind ingame
  spawn traps

ranked
fixing the matchmkaing
season resets which arent full resets
making alting tagable or if not that then making sure matchmaker takes players previous 5 matches atleast into consideration before putting them in a match

whats left
comp
make a diff preset comp+ or smth and put .5 ads in that and anything else yall want
make it manditory in all pickups servers / tourneys and all

this makes the pubs people happy without taking anything away from them
fixes alot of issues with ranked so they will be happy too infact itll be more active
comp andys get what they want and they can easily adapt to it aswell so thats not an issue

[outer flame]

@tired flume what do u think

[tired flume]

I disagree with the first sentence, reg was worse but bigger hitboxes. Bigger hitboxes existed during 0.2 ads as well (it was only added around faceit time), it actually increased skill to an extent and created a mini gap since some players knew certainplaces to place the crosshair to abuse bigger hitboxes (made easier with 0.2)

I agree old 1 ads is completely different because of those points u made to the same 2025 1 ads

[outer flame]

getting back to this, i said lower average skill supported 1 ads more, you said 'not sure why u think 1ads appeals to lower skill'. i said 1 ads also makes everyone play the same, just slower, you said 'Also 0 ads does force everyone to play 1 way'. and bambino showing that it was possible is just irrelevant cause the game and competition was way different back then

[tired flume]

I don't want old krunker, I've seen the general patterns and behaviors that players move to with an enforced 1 ads (back in 2022, and even back in 2023)

[tired flume]

1 ads actually didn't force everyone to play the same

u had polar opposites at the time

[carmine plaza]

this is what i said

maybe im mutted

[tired flume]

players like roadman/demise who perfected slow peeks, then on the opposite end like 39e/m2ch

currently if u are slow peeking in 2025

u have to be really good at it

like really good at it

there is no gain really

[outer flame]

said that since ceaf said 0 ads makes everyone play the same so im just using his logic

[carmine plaza]

?

[tired flume]

well then u are agreeing right

1 ads had varied playstyles

[carmine plaza]

no wait

yea fax

[tired flume]

because it made movement harder

[outer flame]

no im not im just using his logic

[tired flume]

m2ch's spawntraps were a lot harder

[hardy lodge]

🤔

[outer flame]

so his stupid lil brain can get it

chill ceaf]

[carmine plaza]

"Also 0 ads does force everyone to play 1 way because the only way to counter 0ads is to abuse peekers and swing them before u. Whereas u can still play fast on 1ads as seen through players such as bambino and m2ch on guns that should be played fast, but it also promotes slow play with guns that should be slow."

but ok

[carmine plaza]

i dont know how much better i can say this

[outer flame]

yea bambino and m2ch played like that 5 years ago

thats irrelevant

[carmine plaza]

broooo

someone save me

😂

[strong valley]

we gonna be bringing up randomexport's gameplay next methinks

[tired flume]

they foundations of ur guys game

comes from m2ch and bambino

[carmine plaza]

its not, its legit showing how people had different playstyles on different guns

[tired flume]

u guys dont do anything different

it's just easier to do now what they trained for hours

like i can hop on smg

[carmine plaza]

if u watch this video semi should NEVER be able to be played like this

[tired flume]

and do what m2ch did

[outer flame]

dont people have different playstyles on different ads and different guns now

[carmine plaza]

of course theres players who prefer the old style

but i can think of like

3

like guep road

and uh

i'll think of someone wait

fed

yes

but everyone else plays the same

the twitch clip linked to the thread shows legit 8 different people on all guns doing the same shit

[tired flume]

https://www.twitch.tv/krunkerna/clip/CrunchySincereLocustShadyLulu-VmmaYsAe--4TSn9M?filter=clips&range=7d&sort=time i just want someone to slow peek from backsite mann but ik it's not worth it anymore with 0-0.2 ads

[hardy lodge]

🤔

[carmine plaza]

@outer flame does this not like

concern u

[outer flame]

its the only site in the game like this

[carmine plaza]

we can go through every site

[tired flume]

all the sites are becoming like this

[outer flame]

i dont think so

[carmine plaza]

only one where i see people stack is like sandstorm 2nd because its just 2 straight site lines

so ur rewarded for holding cause enemies push in a straight line

[tired flume]

sand 3rd site , demise's team started the triple push off

which i thought was insane

then saw it the next eu tourney

[outer flame]

thats different, on 3rd u can play on and still have a chance while on industry 2nd sitting on while the other team is fast is a death sentence

so gaining some speed on 2nd so you can actually fight against people rushing is really the only thing to do

[hardy lodge]

then why not put forced ads on semi sniper where did all the other guns come in

[outer flame]

which other site forces you to do that

maybe sand 1st on ramp

[carmine plaza]

aight 1 on sniper and semi and 0.7 on other guns 😋

cool? 👍

[hardy lodge]

no 1 is too much wtf

.5

[outer flame]

1 on sniper is stupid lol

[hardy lodge]

even that might be bad

[austere patio]

what is happening a bargain ?😭

[outer flame]

actually it isnt that bad

i tried it

[carmine plaza]

greatest sniper of all time

[outer flame]

a

[carmine plaza]

thought u was talking about 0.5

[naive plover]

This is still being debated? 😭

[hardy lodge]

yes

[austere patio]

how will the newer players will adapt to competitve ranked , when they are playing in a completely different experience what they had in public matches , so it basically restricts the entry of new competitive players , and re-learning everything from the really start no?

[naive plover]

Crazy

[harsh bramble]

was this thread supposed to generate this much controversy

[naive plover]

Literally

[hardy lodge]

new players arent gonna come to play pickups on their first week of the game 💀

[austere patio]

not pickups

ranked

[hardy lodge]

there wont be any forced ads on ranked either

[harsh bramble]

u cant have different pubs + ranked BUT you can have different pubs, ranked VS custom

[hardy lodge]

coz frvr is pushing that too to casuals

[austere patio]

[hardy lodge]

ranked doesnt have lvl 40-50 requirement

[austere patio]

is there any ranked requirement i dont remember

[hardy lodge]

lvl 10

or 15

1 of them

[humble schooner]

lvl 10

It used to be lvl 15 but was lowered

p sure

[harsh bramble]

people who wanna comp cant be asked playing till level 20-25 to be eligable to comp since pubs is broken to begin with so if they wanna make it more exclusive and skill based the core issue (pubs) needs to be resolved

[hardy lodge]

also we can have 2 diff playstyles like this and nobody will complain

[harsh bramble]

so a fake comp and a real comp?

[hardy lodge]

pubs ranked ( just like how they alrdy are but improved )

comp host - just implementing these and all other further required changes on that specificly and forcing the pickup servers and tourney players to play on it

coz they are the ones good at everything so they can easily adapt to 2 ways of playing the game

and not like every other average andy cares about playing pickups and all so it doesnt for them to play the way t1s want to play

and the people playing pickups most of em do it to get better at the game and anyone whos trying to do so will have no issue with having to adapt the way they are played

so like this everyone can coexist and be happy at the same time

and this doesnt undo peoples progess of multiple years or however long they have been playing for instantly

[nova pewter]

not reading all that

[smoky veldt]

I disagre

[nova pewter]

drop a downvite

vote

[wise frigate]

only eu player in that list is weeti, all 3 players are asians 😓