#treasure-scramble
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there's nearly three times the messages per day in this channel than there is in #classic-chat
bok gonna get bokked
My favourite drug is paracetamol
it's been booming for a year
It's typical at this time
cause we talking about why we not talk about ts
Sometimes there's slow phases
Speaking of booming
Half of the messages is just the same 5 people speaking between themselves
Bombs sure are fun and not illegal
I think Draken alone is half the messages
yeah that's how dragon got orange role in like 3 months

aint even gonna start it
He orange now?

i love how everyone is skipping over what bok is saying

only time i see TS convo here is when i come here and start it and even then xD
He was but wants to be white now
The only way to cope
by weird stuff I mean weird sexual topics, but that hasnt really been an issue recently. its been normal for the most part from what ive seen.
Its bok 
i'd use them in usa
I am saying we should break all the rules in one message
Heyo
he left server so he's on a timer before he gets it back
but he's been orange for almost a year
ahh i see. i shall ignore this random now too
On April fools just rename this to afk-general and afk-general to TS

Kinda fun 
W prank
This implies it has happened in the past…? 
So I've been the last one you muted for something that's been sexual? Well, not really "sexual" but yeah
Hello Zappy
and i'd also bomb france
or if youre going to talk about off topic stuff for an extended period, likely just get asked to stop and move back to something afk related
Lets not ask abt it 
(like anime)
bomb denmark instead 
Zappy can we do this and do that
why denmark?
the danes live there
last time we got punished with 15s slowmode was with gabe and embla guessing game like 5 months ago or something
Expected nothing less from this chat 
My favourite anime is Boku no Pico
france is worse trust me
no way
They actually said collab soon 
the danes are the worst
when slowmode is implented again I want you to know that it is boks fault
Off topic stuff is usually fine if it does not interfere with the other topics related to the channel, at least that's how i seen most servers do it
Awesome
Bok trying to get Evelynn thier first ban

i haven't met any of them tbf but oh boy dont let me start on french people
7 day slow mode please
ok do it so we can blame him 
I actually banned someone on my first day
(dont)
Maybe go for Belgium, should’ve stayed with the Dutch people 
Shut up JD
No u
Tower time?
this guy needs to be a mod, mod him
A bot doesn't count 
yeah, but there are rules set by lilith that are enforced. its not as simple as "this other server does it this way."

Push rift more. It's basically campaign right
I don't wanna nuke them tho
I cba getting teams set up
Just one smol bomb should do the trick
Also no rift reward things makes it kinda 
But you can be assed for campaign 
Well, tbf if it was for Lilith we probably would have 2 hours slow mode on each channel 
I was pushing a bit of rift. Wanna c how far i can go with low te
Campaign is no reward too
Campaign you get new maps
just that playing costs dias 
I just don't understand people who only watch anime, like why limit yourself to a single form of visual media
You are old enough you can prob get t2000 jd
So it's just for changing the daily wallpaper 
I probably could
if it was for lilith which is a chinese company we wouldn't have many of these things here
watch the good animes, and when you run out watch good TV shows instead of delving into the degenerate depths
I feel like they might eventually change that, like add extra rewards to it, i seen many complaining about it lately
but as I said, just be reasonable. if you get asked to stop doing something cause its going on too long or whatever, just move on and that's likely the end of it.
🤝
So how’s treasure scramble x2
People have been complaining since 2021

Lilith gave us more powercap
Starting in 35mins 

Important updates take time, they first need to add the updates that benefit their pockets
Did it start yet
rem is fired
Nah
Okay
I haven't checked TS in a long time
I will set my alarm for 35 minutes

And I’ll be here

No more jokes about Zikis in #classic-questions ?
Been super low maintenance on afk I need to do all the event stuff this weekend
they fucked up with thoran and added power cap so people cant cheese to chapter 2093842304

My rem been sitting at 20% wr in 50 fights, first time i see that on a ts 
i did forget to equip collections on that team though
Better that way. Ive been spending less time playing too think it keeps me motivated to play actually
well you cant cheese 5 fight stages tho
That's usually the team that i have that gets past 60% wr
my Rem still 50% winrate but yeah XD
I have collections on that team 

Krimo 
I havent set teams 
there was no multifights when thoran existed already im pretty sure
The simple reality is that it's easier and more profitable to just make new modes
I'm not even playing a lot, been busy with work and finding furniture
instead of trying to fix old flawed modes like campaign

@thin ermine why are you krimo 
Well, it's not like 1 team alone can cheese you much when you have 5 teams to use
Hope its going smoothly? Ive been bz last month i think its slowing down a bit now finally 
uhm im sure there werent many things that thoran uses to cheese nowadays. when i started playing in march 2020 there were 46 chapters already.
Idk? Ill be pandada again in a few~
have you ever seen what people do in guild trials?
Yeah
remove power cap and some whale with every hero with rc 500 will reach ch60
@cinder cargo do u run thoran cheese for campaign still?
So power cap is better then
thats true but its not because of thoran tho

yeah extreme deficit like guild trials is pretty much all cheese
one team gets thoran cheesed the rest get charm/cclocked
usually its cheese, 2 or 3 charms and abel full nuke
Wut rem is below 50 for some?
for everyone almost
Yes me too
Abel, Seal, charm, cheese and 5th team varies
Mine is 78% 
ban him
38% 
oh and ashem frampton i forgot
They're bound to eventually update the chapters tho, like add further rewards to make it rewarding for people to push past a certain threshold
i win
she just gets countered by the 2 popular other teams i think. but idk 
i win xd
9 atm
they already did this about twice.
show us the ranking
Oh hi tomi
we're only at 3 teams, rem loses to ashem and is like 50/50 against awthalia dimkids
top 2%
well it aint that fun at t100
still the third best team though, winrate will go up at more teams
Surprisinging to me
Ok that makes sense then

I kept always the same teams since day 1, they're preset without me having to go and change things around 
That Seal tho
lol
show us the rankings
There's no point in me moving things around
Once i reach 5-6 teams I'm bound to get to top 40-60% cuz last 2 teams have like 0% wr
Betting on 28%

there's no point in terms of what your day 5 rank is
but 3 teams is a great time for testing
yea i mean whats the purpose of showing the wr if you're not even 5%, even 2%
Before the 5-6 teams i usually stay around top 10%, once i get to the 5-6 teams i drop to 40-60%
replace one of your 3 teams with a potential 4th team and see how well it does against the big 3 of rem/ashem/dimkids
what is the best ABelinda team for this round?
just to flex 
looking for 50%+ WR
doing that when we're only on 3 teams gets you the best data
nothing to flex tho...
later on it's more muddied by everyone's random 4th/5th teams
prob the one with gavus

yeah is still like 2 month acc, i think i need more time to get up?
\o/
what is the best ABelinda team for this round?
My 3teams doing great 
nice
nah i meant like yea ofc your wr is higher when you're competing against bad teams
abelinda teams don't generally change much between debuffs
current best is gavus lavatune I think
ezizh jerome belinda gavus lava maybe
bro thats not ABelinda also, im in a much more whaley region

I wasn’t talking to you good sir 
Mythic+ si30 lavatune works?
I was just sharing
yeah that's the LC abel team
try it and see, idk
it works with Alna rem, 90% wr
though LC is currently in a very sweepy meta
i used it last ts i think
I guess this is aBelinda chat now
let me see if i have it
who needs Rem 


can't keep a team that stacked all the way to 5 teams though
Yeah thats min for a lot of game modes
Feeling lucky?
gotta split them up at some point, rem fills in the gap
This looks like my roster wow whose is it? 
was last round
I took the ss from someone from last fire, no clue who it was
Guess theres ppl with similar roster as me 
that was last reward day
time to pull gavus
Wait for new 4f?
New wilder definitely gonna be a furry
Krimo is big kraken like you
and Draken too

My rates ever average
Lilith knows what sells and who pays
nobody built Vika tho 
Was about to say
People don't like when furries are more muscular than them

My roster smol. They got olgath i dont. Im missing abrut too. Havent seen many exactly the same rosters 

Gl getting daddies
No I got gavus already 
I found someone too
oh I meant for JD, I built him in 450 pulls
but shouldn't it be easy to replace ABrutus?
gavus was day 1 pull for me
Its mine
lol i didnt recognize my own

Bruh 
It is i sub most stuff 
You really can’t argue with that without looking weird Zekon, choose your battles 
I got 1 in 54 rates for gavus
noob brain getting me
Pandada (pro)
Noob here didnt even recognize thats my own ss 
You even have long screenshot compared to most other people 
Pandada (almost pro)
Yeah i stitch them how did i miss it lol
thats the most random sentence i've read online in the last half a year
ty
?
not yours, the one i was reacting
how many TS debuffs are there?
4
So far
One for each no?
true I guess
fire ice fog and like swamp or whatever?
fog and swamp are the same thing
Forest fire ice smog
this is not the right channel for that sir, we don't talk about ts here 
forest right thanks
Order of release, not actual cycle order
my deepest apologies


4 stages a week keeps the doctor away
i'd say midgame starts at 5 fights

midgame starts at chapter 58 
Honestly multi comp until end of compulsory campaign is all midgame
nah thats almost endgame
Because you're focusing on the same thing
i'd say midgame is from 5 teams to ch 48-50
Is RH used anywhere besides like 1 ts round?
Midgame starts at RC1000
Well Ch42 you stop devoting huge amounts of resources to building campaign teams
and he's in LC
Does his furniture matter there?
in cr not iirc
in Cr
robin hood
Oh
doesnt matter tbh
Received Healing
i forgot robin hood existed
Robin is good sub for ashem comp
Wrong
yall baited me into using resources for his exchange when i obviously had better things to do with them
just build simona smh she's good
It was a joke 
im 2/8 simona
Early campaign isn't the play, I even done testing to disprove this
and i wanna build her
i have her 1* but no shemira lol
nah she shines everywhere almost
Nope
how
He was surprisingly underpowered for a dimensional
campaign, tower, ts, even nc/cr i guess
TS she's a budget AShem option, that requires more investment than 203 iirc
when I read her kit I thought she was gonna be op so i started hcp and got insane rolls, finished her in like 12k dia

i use her almost every CR round because I'm poor and don't have the best options
So just singleplayer and substitutes, except a CR round
budget option?
we got heroes we build specifically for TS which are thought as very good heroes, why isnt simona like that lmao
yeah she's meta for whem comps
Same reason I use ashem in NC 
fook, I’m gonna have my comp copied
Using real comps this early?
OK sniping you
Brb
Well not you, but your comps
fk me i hate this sublime guy in our guild
good luck with that 
I haven’t left the house today
cat, jess, and ghost picked the same path 
How is treasure scramble
fire is fun
So good everyone fell asleep apparently

I finished* my AShem today so hopefully gonna kick some ass soon
farara! I was thinking of you earlier. Do you have any recommendations for another show to binge? I haven’t found anything good so far
and why??
ive got recommended one. been trying to find time to watch myself but last month was soo bz. lemme find the name~
@thin ermine u r in nihi????
disagrees with everything anyone says ingame and on discord
just for AE 

watch the bear

The Bear is so good
incredible tv show
time for a fast rewards
Can’t you just wait like 1 minute
No hush
Okay
I'll sell every gold card in my possession
Joux how delayed are u?
I use gold cards regularly

wym

I just said I'll sell them all and u suggested selling them all 
Gold cards are great for filling out empty slots on hero you don't plan to instantly 9f
i have 4x more reds than gold cards lol
Mhm
you said it like it was a big deal instead of the default
Nope, I said it as an alternative to waiting a minute
Suggesting its something I commonly do
Wait you all sell gold cards?
We're talking VIP 17+ range of poe income
I recycle constantly and sell all gold card
I've got poe for days, it's easier to just leave autorecycle yellows on and pop yellow cards when I need them
I sell gold cards too
I only recycle purples, keep golds
bro you prob have like 30k+ poe waiting to recycle
Imagine keeping golds
Otherwise you're just trashing your own performance ceiling for marginal increases in reds income

U only need to hold 9 yellows
ngl if they put a slider on gold cards I'd do it but I can't be assed to pull each individual card every single time
so I sell it
So the f2poor keep gold furn/cards?
Do you know how big the jump is from 9 eh L turns to 9 optimal ones 
nah it usually takes me like 15+ to get a full set for 6 empty slots
hi whale frens
It's like 10% stats or something incredible
That on all the heroes yo didn't immediately get 9f is pretty important
I’m no whale
i just 9f everyone ez
Definitely not worth sacrificing for 2 more M furn

I’m almost to 300
the only reason I'm ahead of boerma on furniture leaderboard is because he leaves empty slots instead of yellows
rift is too boring
okay it's also because I 9f all the trash heroes and he ignores them but I'm a poe hoe
do u have a preference for what type of tv show? ive watched one from last year ut its more of a crime/suspense one and its in cn (think theres sub version of it). the other one i got recommended has a setting in the 90s into modern era (also cn tv show, but i heard the beginning was much better than the ending of it)
in game chat was fun to read
the drama
he's quite a character
I’m a plankton at best
@old fog ur chance to catch up, 40 TE limited offers
Soon to be 240
you're gonna have to gaze atalene now 😄

whale
Still deciding whether I want 50 reds, or 50 dimblems and save 10k lab coins
When dims are hardly my prio atm
kinda open to anything as long as it’s interesting. I’m always unsuccessful at finds shows for my self
the best tv cn tv show of last year was 狂飙 eng name is knockout. the rating was super high and everyone watched it. it was all over the place. u could give it a shot 

you will learn
thats how it always is
was there for last CR
I think he's still used in rift
my app collection is getting very diverse

a minuscule amount of people still use him in mae hypos i believe

if you want something older I just started watching twin peaks, it's been pretty good so far
That show is wild
sometimes yes
TIL if you click on someone’s pfp ingame it gives you a closer look
regardless of if it’s a hero or a custom one
@old fog u playin w us tn?
i’m at a friends house
Everyone 
Does it stop their messages from showing up or just they can't dm you
but I just don't look at ingame chat which is basically like blocking everyone
I found the block feature first, and no Remove Friend feature
so everyone I removed I had to block and unblock
i had a half-argument with a dude in our guild about if 1lene or 2lene is better for stall
isn't ur guild supposed to be good?
me
Isn't 1lene better than 2lene 
wrong
by a mile
What did you think delete did
removed their account from the game?
removed their account from my view, or exited out of the screen
it's not called Delete in literally any game I play
this one is the only one
yes. this guy is just really dumb
seems pretty obvious to me
Co has some ... Special people
We train all the good players then they get poached by the comp branches
sublime consistently makes bad suggestions for the discord too 
there's usually more than one way out of those sorts of screens
I specific searched from him and says he hasn't said anything yet
Nitro
hihi
I'll just try to help you out here so I just sort of hope you understand
but being public and bringing your problems from your guild on OS doesn't sound like a thing you should be doing 
ah
so just saying 
just needed to let out some frustration, probably not the best place to do it i totally understand
yeah bringing nihilum drama to the nihilum channel is bad taste
some of your friends in there might not appreciate, and that sort of brings attrition
i’ll shut up now
Man, that sure is frustrating huh
I missed 18 things lmao
I need to wait tomorrow
did you know that you can't get in guild trouble if you just block/mute all your guild leaders
So how’s treasure scramble
TS is sad
rem sucks i want refunded
there's a reason we're off topic ma'am
Rem sucks
TS red buff without whemira is just pain

abel sucks 
Without olgath its painful too
4 of the best supports and she still does meh
nerf the totally straight ™️ dads
🤝 also unable to buy, I just stole a screenshot from a guildie 
nerf Gavus anymore and he'll be AThane level 
Got a promotion, my brain was mushed on my first day
I’m only asking
anyone at all testing shit with M Eugene?
wait does talis actually do insane damage in TS?
Ezzzzz
was just watching the splash background in TS and his ult nuked my abel team's health
its not like seal but it can be a decent amount
this mf comparing ashem and rem job 🗿
A win is a win
Rem does better now
athane did nothing wrong here 
pure skill
Why is Simona engraved over Emi? Genuine question
Lol
pos 3 Lava >>
she was his first e60
I mean I had Simona before emi
Nah she was like 3-5th can't remember

just 1 replay and it usually does less. but it adds a bit 

Low prio GB over whale counter
great game 
Since when top 5\6 gb is low prio
my tali is almost the same level as bappys?
I don’t think Simona is that high tbh
yes ur a whale sir
Why is this possible
She is
actually i hit 18 res and had hella spare spice and put them into him
alna immunity timings
Nuh uh 
I’d say she is easily subbed out
Bro doesn't even have half his tree
She easily carries by herself
whats your vip
Emi e60 seems not that useful but simona is pretty good, it’s a decent MR debuff on enemy
barely into 14
yup great game 
oh
Higher than mine 
ok im more whale 
bappy
Didn’t know u were kraken zappy
im close to 15
how close?
Sheesh
15 is a big boy step
however much is 40k
im barely halfway there
I haven’t spent in a little while
ur 40k into vip 15?
I don’t need to
ngl all i needa spend for is e60s tree and the rest of my wokes
oh not that bad
I only need Olgath, and spending to ascend a celehypo is too expensive imo
try spending 400$ to get seal from 16 to 18
this acc is also almost 4 years old compared to the drakens
not 40k dollars
yea mines only 3
40k points not dollars lol
but i dont spend much anymore, mostly just monthlies
well when u have everything u don’t needa spend
dewit spend the $300
u done Liberta first, ABel second, Simona third
Primo plz give me olgath
maybe rem was before simona i believe
u need merc?
and ivan also
ill get there sooner or later
No I need it on my own
on the 24th or 25th of November u done Simona
i’m not funding it
I’ll be 4/16 after rhe free copy
i alrdy did mine

hurt my wallet enough
yea and i started playing on early oct i believe
i had to drop 100 for 18 res
after the first recorded simona e60 pic u sent this, both Ivan and Rem are e30-e44
then you whale my acc 
oh you meant e60? yea i said probably 3-5th, cant recall if i had any other prio before doing her e60
yeah Simona was third e60
hooray
wild
Sheesh nemesis with the strong memory
yeap even i dont bother remembering those things lol
gonna use my engraving reset on ashem tho

Ay yo
i can sense the tension
did you e80 her
81 
o
Lool
for pcap ay?
yep, pushed 40 tower levels
Oh yeah for the tower yesterday
not worth imo
I think you knew that 
No fun here
why did i do it then
yah, that was more limited than I was expecting
Thought we just wouldn't have someone like lava 
lilith loves money
guess olgath star is in my future
is olgath usable without maetria?
Daemia?
or daemia i guess, i think i have a copy of her
actually yeah daemia newer than olgath
oh? I haven’t seen the list I need to look 
daemia mommy material
there you go, most recent heroes eligible for the Coveted Summons event:
Not eligible:
All Awakened
All Dimensionals
Jerome
Naroko
Vika
Ivan
Simona
Liberta
Lucilla
Lavatune
Fk it

thankfully I still need to build daemia
whats wrong with my third comp help
I'll 3* daemia I guess
hold up, corb 
also is it too late to fix comps after you set them
olgath doesn't need 5*, he's getting ivan'd just fine at 4*
Olgath ftw
idk how scramble works
im like 90k guild coins away from mythic and i'll do +30 as well
you were 15 keys away or something smh
I spent da dolla
im so confused as to why this chat for scramble is so active
half the time its not even about scramble
too late for the current 50 battles, but you can change them now and they'll apply for the next 50
I got a big raise 😂 I can afford a dolla
test it for us then 
its like a general chat but not many newbies come here
welcome to scromble chat enjoy your stay
any recommendations for my third comp?
if you have liberta/lucilla then their team is better than abel
It’s a hidden spot for krakens like @wise whale
give rcl to abel and lion to rem
spider won't do much for her
prob want to swap rowan and palmer position too
damn, missing luci since im doing lavatune rn
alr thanks
bro f2p life looks so stressed lol, many of yall dont even got the most recent op heroes built
3 teams doesn't matter that much though, 4 or 5 teams is the important bit
since rewards are only on day 5 and 10
mind building me some heroes good sir
im stressing on where im gonna get my next stargazer cards from 
im out of money myself
New f2p life is so different than old f2p life
same, im still building ruke and awthalia
but yeah it is stressful, not being able to catch up along with those who have money
im missing a ton that would help me a lot
get on the game nerd
Welcome to the f2p life 
Ermmmmm … wtf
i’m f2p
i’m at a friends house lil bro
lies
this is f2p chat
im thinking of joining that life tbf its too much to spend on this game
ur lame
People have higher winrates even though yours is good
nothing dont mind
i just have a life 
welcome to TS breakpoint hell
you passed into the 2600-2800 zone
all good js lmk
so you went from only facing people who were <2600 straight into only facing people who were >2600
do i need to explain why we shouldnt use "gas the jews" as a description



no no
Apparently wtf
i will lyk what i want bait noble 
i didnt mean that
Lmao who has that
there is only one option at all times tbh, it seems
but anyway, TS
how is it going, mates?
I'm at 1% here 
wtf who has that
pretty good im t50
Meh


Should I 18 owl?
could probably help instead of doing 18 panda 
18 owl ftw
Smart choice or cute choice? 

whel panda imo
whaling olgath rn
pandada~
I don't have olgath
Cruke can be subbed for mae
whaling cruke and olgath then bet
k
Don't have either Mae or cruke
Edwin not built 
Desira or Treznor?

I have nothing lmaoo
des

how much did u pull? 
bait sux
oh I just pull every week or so when I notice I have some bait
ah u dont stockpile
happened to be a nice round number today
sweet!!!
Have fun 🫡
ive been playing the stockpile and pull with new pet release since reso18 
i like the dopa
nono naroko
@fair rapids ur friend just joined nihi

who?
check

If it's farararara ik
not farara

Which branch
I keep climbing
@candid jungle you know what to do

Pog
Is lava game changing enough that I need to delay narako and Jerome
lava opop
LaverTuna
Wait should I delay my narako and Jerome then?
HCPing is really difficult to justify in general
Unless you're whale enough to afford it
That is true, I’ll just use my swap scroll at this point. Only Ivan was worthy of hcp
I feel seen rn
Yea I would not dare to HCP in the current meta
To many good sg targets

I was fine to HCP sparingly before Lib+Luci released but they just put me perma behind 
Then Lava was good too which made it worse again
I miss when like 4/5 celepos a year were leofric 
i would just buy duck event to hcp tbh

Not whel

same
Who r u resetting?
Whale behaviour
Let me spend like 5k dia to do 5 extra resets 

either whane or ainz tbh

Got me looking at this
yeah
yeap
honestly thou i wouldnt rush building celepogeans at ur point. in fact i would just save sg until like 600+ and then check whats meta then build. might as well just build good 4f heroes instead
aight ty
I shall not rush
lol flaw 
dewit
The hoarding strategy seems to be the best rn
let me start with my 45 sgs 
Hoarding is always the best because getting something to m30 is pointless
'Hoarding' kinda goes beyond saving enough for 1 hero anyway, saving up for 1 is just normal practice
store purchases are the exception

I can't do 36f for a meme ss 


core in limited deal not worth as much as getting from exchange events btw

But if in need of shard is different story, but u dont want to buy too much of that
i got 10k shards rn...
im always short on shards as well 

If any of you wanna give your opinions on an abel collection I'd be interested to hear #collections message 

my tg first
30960 vylo when

now
tru, dragon get to it
once again im not sure who to use my shards and cores on 
Ask your guild
3f min iirc

lol i did. pope helped~ still not sure thou leaning towards rosa e30 and maybe mulan e60....but seems i kinda only have meh options so 
im not staying there that long lol. just for AE so 
Ask dragon 
didnt get all the stuff u guys typically get

dragon awesome but id think hed say 30960 everything
what do u think? lemme copy my options over
- rosa e30
- crassio e30
- saurus from e3x to e6x
- mulan from e30 to e60
- dae from e41 to e6x
- simona from e0 to e60 (at m+ could hcp her)
- ezio e30
- yen e30
- melu e30
- gin e30
stuff im considering
yes
hi flaw 
Na your here forever now we kidnap you

all of them are niche so you can pick any that fit your bill
Rosa or Simona e30 are prob best use of shards
Who's better 

It's just minor diffs either way yeah
yeah only got niche stuff left
Lets gooo Gwyn 
Iirc frampy has some use
yeah id have to hcp that simona which i kinda am pushing off
Idk if Yen e30 is enough to work in Kane but I don't think she's meta anymore anyway
🫡
But vika looks useful 
Vika for sure
in rift?
i merced her last time. she did great but its was a huge merc
Give me a comp with her
high rift its framp
Idk
vurkgrab vika

Which comp? 
Prob just smth Mae
cruke. i dont do mae w. fram in that team since i dont have the beckon lvl up (running mae eats up stability)
@copper yacht seems panda is better
You think I have Mae 
Grab a Mae bekon 

Wr fluctuates around that range regardless of beast
Yeah because it fluctuates 
Ok whale
Simona e33 good enough
E60 for pvp
Not saying panda isn't better, but seeing a higher wr once isn't enough to say it is
Sounds f2poor imo
I tested panda then spider then panda again
Panda did better








