treasure-scramble

[sour jay]

ppl still said it was good with baden

[lofty silo]

Now baden and mortas is just a glitch

[sour jay]

I found 0 difference

[mossy bridge]

so u guys are saying i can skip mort M20? This is fantastic news

[sour jay]

you need a big ass mortas for the naroko shit but that's much bigger than M

[lofty silo]

But u still want mortas stacked so he doesn’t steal betta orbs

[waxen cairn]

Not bad

[wise whale]

Banned

[restive goblet]

This mostly only applies if you’re a denizen of the deep

[waxen cairn]

[lofty silo]

You are too new

[sour jay]

yeah that's a kraken ass comp

if you have a big naroko you need like e80 mortas lmao

[wise whale]

So saurus or zol collection for rem?

[waxen cairn]

Def saurus

Shadow dancer works much better on rem

[mossy bridge]

idk if its that clear cut for pvp

i would do zolrath for that

but need at least +1

[wise whale]

Is this any good bc of the +1?

[restive goblet]

[waxen cairn]

No u wanna replace that asap when u get saurus

[stiff elk]

xd

tried to send boxes

[sour jay]

[]

[restive goblet]

We’ve been freed from slow mode so just break it up into two posts I guess

[stiff elk]

R46 here looking for some advice regarding TS teams. could anyone take a look and let me know what they think? Will post in two.. lol

[mossy bridge]

what rank are u?

[stiff elk]

lol sorry

I’m 2%

[worthy rapids]

one screen would be enough

no need to show fodder

[stiff elk]

Yeah that’s a good point LMFAO my bad

[restive goblet]

Stitchpics is good for making collages too if you want to keep your box broken up by faction and easy to find specific heroes in

[mossy bridge]

u are too close to the top... i cannot help u

i cannot help potential competition

[worthy rapids]

[stiff elk]

Ripp!!

R47 soon i hope…

[worthy rapids]

my advice: go back in time and dont spend 300k dias on useless 4f heroes

[stiff elk]

Lmfao who is useless?

I basically followed the hero ascension prio to a T

although i know that’s a bit outdated

[worthy rapids]

you have a shit ton of heroes you will never build

[lofty silo]

After 3 years you’ll have them all

Hmm I guess this good

[worthy rapids]

they will sit at si200e0 4ever

[stiff elk]

Welp comes with the times better than not building them lol

also guides should be updated if we just straight up shouldn’t be building some of the prio 4f units hahaha

[worthy rapids]

some are niche, some are falling off, some are straight up useless

you will never use base safiya

same with thesku

hendrik i doubt

satrana

shemira

[mossy bridge]

i think ur box is fine tbh, all those useless guys come with pulling for a lot of fodder

[worthy rapids]

kalene

[mossy bridge]

probably got a lot of those from stones and shit

[worthy rapids]

[stiff elk]

ah so you’re just referring to the fact that i have them at all not flaming the ones i built

[worthy rapids]

i just looked at insane amount of safiyas and other stuff

[stiff elk]

Lmfaooo yeah

[mossy bridge]

some of the built ones are outdated too but it's not your fault tbh

[stiff elk]

Should i grit them for someone? have two days left on that

[mossy bridge]

game moved very fast in the last 6 months

[stiff elk]

But i think i have like.. all of the prio heroes that can be grit

[restive goblet]

Feast your eyes

[worthy rapids]

4 years account vs few weeks/months

doesnt count

[sour jay]

build thesku for mauler tower smh

[mossy bridge]

i dont even know who thesku is

which one of the like 4 different lizards is he

[worldly belfry]

thesku was my second mauler after satrana

[mossy bridge]

they all look the same

[worthy rapids]

this is the most "non-wl" hero i got in 10 months

[sour jay]

it's the one with the lizards

who is a lizard

but he rides a lizard too

[restive goblet]

the legless one

[mossy bridge]

half of them are lizards

[worldly belfry]

he snek

[sour jay]

or does he ride a snake

i'm not sure

[stiff elk]

there doesn’t seem to be very many good maulers

[worldly belfry]

he has a snek

[worthy rapids]

there is only one

[sour jay]

naroko is the one good mauler. crassio has some use too

[mossy bridge]

i think now maulers are better than wilders somehow, thats my hot take

[restive goblet]

Oh yeah he does have legs nevermind

[worthy rapids]

salami

[stiff elk]

Idk mishka has carried my ass off

[mossy bridge]

crappio, naroko, anasta, GOATmisu

[sour jay]

mid, good, mid, shit

[worthy rapids]

base brutus usable in cr

[sour jay]

wilder has tamrus and trish

[mossy bridge]

take it back GOATmisu is top 5 in the game

counting wokes

[sour jay]

shit

[mossy bridge]

[sour jay]

[mossy bridge]

thats right, goatmisu for life

[worthy rapids]

he even got 2 yellow furn

[worldly belfry]

t3 already

i'm still at 84/100

[worthy rapids]

lemme count my t4s

[mossy bridge]

how many does it want for t4 reso

does t4 reso exist

[sour jay]

no

[worthy rapids]

no

[mossy bridge]

o

[sour jay]

t3 reso is fake news anyway

it's t2 5* reso

[shy ferry]

it means all your heroes get max haste

[mossy bridge]

wtf thats a scam

[maiden crag]

lavatune looking good for pvp or more pve hero?

[worthy rapids]

i have

...

94

t4 pieces

[mossy bridge]

man I want this to be good but it feels so dogshit, 3 L pps are worse than 1 M pp

[worthy rapids]

you can have this

[mossy bridge]

gib me

[worthy rapids]

i wish it was on my main

have to deal with this for now

[mossy bridge]

still pretty good tbh

[worthy rapids]

i hate my alts luck

[maiden crag]

from what lvl seal does stall comp start working? the heroes seem low investment but my seal is lvl 12

[worldly belfry]

5

[restive goblet]

Next beast is probably gonna be the patch after next right?

21 days left on the current thrilling voyage

[lofty silo]

Is 4/5 of a Mortas worth 40 red chests?

[sour jay]

depends on region, but 15 usually is the min

in baby region maybe 9 or 12 is enough

[maiden crag]

atm i also have all 4f heroes at si20 ascended, and flora/talene at e, probably a low winrate then right

[wise whale]

@old fog

[proven hearth]

[sour jay]

skregg is a carry now

[rich tree]

Mauler main

[edgy pumice]

I think I’m addicted to collection runs

[rich tree]

Addicted enough for $1 staff?

[edgy pumice]

No

F2P forever

[rich tree]

Man I need to start chipping away at the 12 runs

[thin ermine]

i sat through 12 runs together last week in one sitting.....trust me...not fun

[edgy pumice]

Pretty fun for me

For now

Because I have time

Not gonna be fun when I’m busy

[thin ermine]

for now

[sour jay]

I'd rather just go play darkest dungeon

[rich tree]

Man palmer is super close to scarlet after collections

[rich tree]

Fun game? Was considering putting some more time learning it

[indigo quail]

[sour jay]

yeah it's fun, but hard and punishing and rng

if you consider that fun

[radiant grotto]

Darkest Dungeon is fun, yeah, but true^

[sour jay]

i haven't played it a ton

[mossy bridge]

afk arena players love hard and punishing and rng

[wise whale]

[rich tree]

I did like 2 runs

[sour jay]

nothings hard in afk arena

[rich tree]

Then stopped

[sour jay]

except trying to exist without spending

[rich tree]

[lofty silo]

It’s fun to roll runs

[mossy bridge]

ummm this guy is a literal rock so he must be pretty hard

[sour jay]

my issue with darkest dungeon is I get attached to heros but you can't do that in that game

I don't want my poor little children to die

[wise whale]

This how my heros r now after collections

[rich tree]

Cult of lamb

Revive your favorite

[rich tree]

Jesus palmer scary

[sour jay]

the gameplay on that looked kinda boring tbh

[wise whale]

Collections rly make a difference

[rich tree]

I can't even upgrade the gear cuz I don't want him higher than scarlet

[sour jay]

where do you even use him and scarlet together

[rich tree]

That one TR

[sour jay]

is scarlet in any tr now?

not in my floors

[lime zinc]

Scarlet was in oldschool Idre TR or for low RC

[radiant grotto]

How I felt with X-COM
Added friend's names to my character too, for extra attachment

"Oh no, there goes x"

[rich tree]

Oh what's the new school idre?

[mossy bridge]

man why are the translations so dogshit, this is what u get when u try to modify wishlist after using up the attempt

[lime zinc]

AwAtha and wait

[sour jay]

idk but I just run bert instead of scarlet because the strat is just hit auto at 1:00 and it gets me legend

[indigo quail]

first pin in nihil

[lime zinc]

It's palmer 4x, dae at 38s, auto at 9s

[sour jay]

needs big twins and shit or you will die

[indigo quail]

who uses twins

[sour jay]

oh

[indigo quail]

luci grez lib palm dae
higher floor awtha/wyca for grez

[lime zinc]

I mean, at my floor you wouldn't even be dia V unless you had 30930 Twins

[sour jay]

op

[mossy bridge]

what if i dont have luci

or just E luci i guess

[rich tree]

The pin led me to more channels and I gave up

[indigo quail]

[radiant grotto]

[indigo quail]

#743650656954613881 message

[radiant grotto]

Still on that "I don't want to read" vibe, Aefryn?

[rich wraith]

Dae or emi for this ?

[rich tree]

I've been reading and replying to emails post holiday all day

And putting out fires

[radiant grotto]

oh yeah, meant game stuff lol

[lime zinc]

I almost forgot holidays exist, I was going to just head in everyday until I got an email telling me the building would be closed for christmas

[rich tree]

Yes I just want brain dead gameplay rn

[radiant grotto]

I remember you just wanting to not bother with game stuff, which I can totally relate

[rich tree]

Oh I'm more into it again with collections out

[radiant grotto]

and damn, hope you don't have too many fires to put out there anymore

[rich tree]

Just not try Harding NC

[radiant grotto]

You must be the first person I've seen saying this, man

Bob and Calci are gone

[rich tree]

Ehh well see. Waiting for results tomorrow then finding another equipment if that fails

Oh wut they quit?

[radiant grotto]

yep

[rich tree]

[lime zinc]

Bob was normal burnout though, happened before collec

[radiant grotto]

I mean, yeah, but still

last straw type of thing?

[lime zinc]

Last straw yeah

[mossy bridge]

[proven hearth]

god f*cking dammit! Can I quit now?

[lime zinc]

[radiant grotto]

[wise whale]

This is exactly what I’m saying

[radiant grotto]

been unlucky too, primo?

[proven hearth]

my second run at a mulan collection

[radiant grotto]

may RNGesus be on your side, mates

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/974081672972763186/1152109159106494514/image.gif

[wise whale]

Mate I’ve done 20+ runs and have gotten 1 useable one

[radiant grotto]

[wise whale]

My rates on gazing is almost as bad

Saf been mythic for like a month now

[indigo quail]

dw i just waste 6 Ls and 3 Lvs for nothing but trash

[umbral orbit]

can someone send the grpah with erison again

[radiant grotto]

[rich tree]

[sour jay]

that's a good fitting curve

[worldly belfry]

sadly, that graph makes no sense for my little brain

[umbral orbit]

perfect ty i needed this

[old fog]

sup

[wise whale]

Down to do vow?

[old fog]

at school rn

[sour jay]

you see the erosion of various points at station Y8 in terms of mm/year

[old fog]

i can do it in like 2 hours

[sour jay]

A2B12CB is seeing record low erosion

[lime zinc]

It has mm/year, so it's prob land erosion

[worldly belfry]

ohhh now i get it

[rich tree]

Yeah can't be drakens wallet erosion

[wise whale]

Ah shi my fault son

[worldly belfry]

fk u raf

[umbral orbit]

it has a correlation factor of .98 indicating a strong negative relationship between points and mm/year

[wise whale]

Gets smaller and smaller evry day

[worldly belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/screw-you-f-you-fu-middle-finger-the-finger-gif-23326129

[polar dune]

my sanity from this update graphed circa 2015

[lime zinc]

Erded

[rich tree]

Can't believe I skimmed the researchgate paper out of boredom

[lime zinc]

Smh when research gate has the wrong title for the paper that's posted

[rich tree]

Time to pack up and find something to eat without eroding my wallet

[radiant grotto]

loooool

[rich tree]

Erosion study of limestone on the Cat Ba islands in North East Vietnam by transverse micro-erosion meter

That one?

[radiant grotto]

there is a bunch of spreadsheets around tbh, have this one for now
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OzGl-Gd9zF9SqSflE870FAQAtCba0PuAeZjdg-6hPz0/edit#gid=2026951846

[wise whale]

I’d say the Abel collection worked

[worldly belfry]

whale

[wise whale]

Ok kraken

[restive goblet]

The slope on that line is kind of meaningless though

Unless there’s some systematic pattern to the x value labels like they’re ordered by elevation or something

[umbral orbit]

i totally thought u were about to rick roll me

ty

[worldly belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-scared-imout-gif-9341104105491691995

[radiant grotto]

np np 🫡

[worldly belfry]

u guys farmin stats now

[lofty silo]

Tempted to pull to try to help my ts result lmao

[radiant grotto]

[worldly belfry]

how was ts @radiant grotto

[mossy bridge]

what are u even saving for??

[lofty silo]

I have no clue

I was thinking 27k to max 3 stats

[radiant grotto]

mood, flaw

[lofty silo]

Maybe wait for next pet for tricking

[old fog]

LESSGOO

[radiant grotto]

bad
And only set teams on calc day

[wise whale]

[mossy bridge]

pogggg

[lofty silo]

I already resonnated onion, so should wait another one, so another 2 months lol

[radiant grotto]

Congrats

[old fog]

time to get reso 9 now

[worldly belfry]

[lofty silo]

Crazy!

[lime zinc]

I thought the sights might've been coordinated or smth

[old fog]

i have the goofiest pet box ever

[wise whale]

[radiant grotto]

3.63%, sorry

[old fog]

so close

[lime zinc]

I thought my teams were failing hard but I got 1.33%
(Best rank I've got ever)

Gotta bask in the short term powercreep powerspike while it lasts

[umbral orbit]

im suprrised u never hit t100 b4, you play so optimumly as f2p

[lime zinc]

Nah, I'm not even close to optimal

[umbral orbit]

lmao me too

[wise whale]

Debating e60 emi/bedo to help dim kids bc they sucking rn

[lime zinc]

Maybe close this year, but the mistakes I made in prev years are too major to be fixed

And for an old server, making a mistake ever is a permanent downside for your account

[lofty silo]

+22

[lapis island]

Who to e4x for TS

[umbral orbit]

oh for sure, my awsolise is preventing me from hitting t100

[indigo quail]

[umbral orbit]

myu did you ever drop that account thats was around 1000 server?

about a year old

[rich tree]

That wlion

[wise whale]

Game doesn’t wanna gimme copies for it ig I’m jus getting fox n spider 18 first before 15 res

[little bough]

Probably vei?

[lapis island]

Vei is next for sure but I don't have enough yellows for e30

[rich tree]

I'm trying to get 12 on everyone before slapping that res button

[lapis island]

I can do another one

I have enough reds for 2 e4x

[glad plank]

Wow nice, is seal 18 really better than res 9/12?

[lofty silo]

I did a big mistake resonnating onion, damn its bad

[rich tree]

[little bough]

Ivan/dae/Oden then if they aren't 4x yet

[rich tree]

My goal is to not touch onion unless there is a busted new beast

[lapis island]

Alright thanks

I do have Oden e41

I accidentally touched onion aswell

[lofty silo]

Rem bad? Or ashem super op?

[lapis island]

Probably Seal 17 by now if I didn't

But it is what it is

[glad plank]

Me too, I didn't know about spice trick lol

[rich tree]

I didn't know about battery trick

[lapis island]

Theoretically speaking no progress is hindered anyways as beast copies are spread out still

[glad plank]

What's that?

[rich tree]

Don't res shit beast and leave it at 0 while it accumulate spices

[radiant grotto]

#nightmare-corridor message

[rich tree]

That would be on NC chat

[lapis island]

I feel like Lucretia's gonna get axed the next time a swap event comes

Free 309e60 meta celehypo

[umbral orbit]

odd question do u remember Gustavo account thing i remember he was green at one point, i totally forgot about him

[sour jay]

might be more important to swap old wokes by then

no swap event next year so maybe the year after

[glad plank]

Ah thanks!

[lapis island]

Oh really no swap event next?

Maybe my ABaden and ASolise will die of old age by then

[sour jay]

they said next anni is engrave reset

so maybe they'll be alternating

[glad plank]

Hopefully they also give out 10k diamonds if you don't reset.

[worldly belfry]

i won't swap those two

[glad plank]

Like this year's swap event.

[lofty silo]

Imagine not needing a reset

Mr perfect

[radiant grotto]

Gaules was in my guild, yeah

he simply disappeared, left our disc, this one too, and never logged on again

[sour jay]

oh i forgot about that person

[indigo quail]

engrave reset tough choice between ainz and lucy

[umbral orbit]

huh interesting, maybe he wa done

[gilded salmon]

would it be troll to reset mishka

[indigo quail]

Why not lucy

[gilded salmon]

hypo tower

[indigo quail]

Wilder tower

ae

and maybe nc cr sub

[gilded salmon]

idc about ae on salsa

and carries are more important than a shield

[worldly belfry]

gaules was that indian guy profile right

[worldly belfry]

luckily, i can reset daimon

[indigo quail]

[gilded salmon]

and lucy is only like e41

[lofty silo]

I’m the devil

[sour jay]

did you make it t10 at rewards corby

[mossy bridge]

Does anyone have the link to bobs massive thesis thing

[proven night]

imo Ainz would have more benefit, cuz dims can't be swapped.

but i'll disappointed if next anniv no free hero swap like last time

full hero swap basically reset everything, not only engraving, would be a downgrade if only engraving reset

[queen crystal]

this? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1anFewmc_96HU6_mfVsfYniNmRPInNZY7RNMKxW3Kjnw/mobilebasic

[lime zinc]

I was trying to send the link through google drive and it was uploading the doc

[fair rapids]

Yup catching up

[sour jay]

Just in time for twins to leave the meta

[fair rapids]

[spice finch]

[thin ermine]

[queen crystal]

[proven night]

whale not cathcing up for meta

[abstract storm]

Did you already get the new hypo? 😓

[thin ermine]

yeah he did lol

nothing can stop dragon on his path of

[abstract storm]

He has more celepogeans than I do 🫣

[rich tree]

Draken scary

Gambler's trait

[fair rapids]

I think I'm past you by 1 or 2

🫣

This a waste right

[thin ermine]

[thin ermine]

yeah waste

[edgy pumice]

yes i's a water

[worldly belfry]

yah, 120 for a shit

[proven night]

would have been better if it was arcane staff instead

[fair rapids]

Or the cards you can pick

@thin ermine

Juice ?

Should I juice it

[thin ermine]

yeah u need juice.

juice bait and whatever else u want

[fair rapids]

I need shards

I'ma have like way to many things to e30

[thin ermine]

u also need reds. too many things to si30

what do u not need lol

[indigo quail]

dust

[fair rapids]

No

[indigo quail]

[fair rapids]

Pls

[thin ermine]

reference potato's calc if u want

[fair rapids]

Idk what I need I need it all

[thin ermine]

[indigo quail]

get things u never buy at store

thats the exchange, not what to pick

[thin ermine]

yeah valuewisetoo

oh right

forgot

my brain

[fair rapids]

What If I buy all

[indigo quail]

dust then

[thin ermine]

pick whatever u like. ull be fine

ur wallet would cover the rest

[fair rapids]

I'ma need to e30 twins cruke Jerome and many others I'll do shards

[indigo quail]

if u buy dust with diamonds in store then u prob a crammer, then why wouldn't u choose dust

[fair rapids]

I don't cramm

[thin ermine]

[fair rapids]

So this now a thing

[indigo quail]

[fair rapids]

I wonder if Nobel rods gona be a thing

[thin ermine]

[thin ermine]

hope so

[fair rapids]

I hope it's under bait/poe so I can take bait and rods

[thin ermine]

me too. i can then finish baits (soon) and get staffs

[fair rapids]

Staff then juice after reso 18 will be nice

[thin ermine]

id never whale juice. id exchange from all events but not the noble. if new system wasnt out id prob finish up reso and stop buying the bati noble (cut down expense)

[indigo quail]

What hero needs collection in this list still have few runs left

[fair rapids]

I'm doing juice Nobel and baits I'm so far behind on tree

[thin ermine]

saurus is a good one~

[fair rapids]

Jerome

[indigo quail]

(Jerome ship is gone and I have him E lol)

[fair rapids]

[indigo quail]

done saurus and jerome

[radiant grotto]

got him to M+ myself

[thin ermine]

i also gave crassio i try not too bad either

[thin ermine]

[indigo quail]

my crappio has one too

[cinder cargo]

I can reset something

[indigo quail]

[cinder cargo]

What should I reset

It's an oden collec

[thin ermine]

ers for who?

[indigo quail]

oh wait

Time to farm flights for mortas

[radiant grotto]

Mortas, maybe? Would that even help to manipulate him for CR?

[cinder cargo]

Not a swap, just a reroll

[indigo quail]

u right alpaca

[radiant grotto]

damn, you were faster

[indigo quail]

[radiant grotto]

Need to do a few runs too

[thin ermine]

who r u building for?

[cinder cargo]

Not sure whether atk and erosion is a good idea

[cinder cargo]

Idk, just mages in general

I was going for abelinda

[thin ermine]

[gilded salmon]

I dont think erosion on mortas does anything? Has to be on baeden no?

[thin ermine]

def not abel lol

[cinder cargo]

But the mythic erosion

[radiant grotto]

oh yeah, came here to ask something
Does anyone know what was that link with game assets again? Not the google drive link

[thin ermine]

id reroll it

[cinder cargo]

Ye

Atk and heal on mortas

[cinder cargo]

The erosion?

[hexed cypress]

Ez skill up from rerolling that M erosion

[cinder cargo]

Or should I just keep it for like daemia or something

[hexed cypress]

[wise lion]

technically it's possible that it buffs his health drain skill but I haven't done any ero testing

[thin ermine]

yeah its too niche

[cinder cargo]

I wouldn't actually want a skill up

[hexed cypress]

Oh

[cinder cargo]

But Emilia and daemia

And lorsan

Though I already have a lorsan

[radiant grotto]

ero testing

[cinder cargo]

Who else is health lost again

Plz help Bob

[thin ermine]

yeah but they deserve better than that lol

[cinder cargo]

Um

Can someone take Bob's list and make it faction based

[thin ermine]

[wise lion]

[thin ermine]

u mean class based

[wise lion]

... it's already faction based

cele hypo lb mauler wild gb dim, in that order

[thin ermine]

[radiant grotto]

farara, would you maybe know?

I think it was some random CN link

I never saved

[thin ermine]

youd prob be better off asking frog or seacow or even perp. i think they were talking abt it the other day

i only know the google drive one

[radiant grotto]

I see, ok ok 🫡

[thin ermine]

[radiant grotto]

and yeah, the drive is the only one I have saved, but it's not updated

[thin ermine]

do u just want the hero images?

[radiant grotto]

tbh I just wanted the artifacts

[thin ermine]

lemme check if perp's spreadsheet has it

[radiant grotto]

For sure, thanks 🫡

[thin ermine]

yeah its in there

check server

[radiant grotto]

🫡

Thankssss

[thin ermine]

[tawdry hatch]

I messed up for rewards day...

Forgot to set 5t cos I was busy working out 4t

Dropped to 1.66% for rewards, now I'm back to high 1%

[thin ermine]

[tawdry hatch]

Hopefully I won't need these two later

[indigo quail]

what supports use atk

[tawdry hatch]

Palmer?

[indigo quail]

thats flight

[tawdry hatch]

Ivan

[indigo quail]

not vault

[thin ermine]

keep for lib

[fair rapids]

That's flight

[tawdry hatch]

U asked supports smh

[thin ermine]

lib likes both

[indigo quail]

I have an ero one already

[thin ermine]

or luci works well too

[indigo quail]

ok luci

Thanks

[thin ermine]

lib luci have to use the two collection interchangably all the time

np~

[thin ermine]

[gilded salmon]

ivan wants attack

[tawdry hatch]

Already said that Salsa smh

[indigo quail]

ok now i need 1 more for mortas

[tawdry hatch]

Should unblock me so that u know next time~

[thin ermine]

[fair rapids]

[indigo quail]

Sori i forgot to give the full details

[rare grove]

Which is better for bert

[tawdry hatch]

Talking to salsa is alright

[cinder cargo]

kraken

[indigo quail]

left one

[cinder cargo]

wait ish

[thin ermine]

[indigo quail]

right one for ivan

[cinder cargo]

bert does most of his damage with eroson

[rare grove]

Alrighty

[cinder cargo]

you don't want to stack atk, cda or MP

[tawdry hatch]

U don't get anywhere if u don't try

[cinder cargo]

you want to stack erosion

[rare grove]

Interesting

[tawdry hatch]

Oh

Huh

[cinder cargo]

but, both are really good for other supports

[tawdry hatch]

Someone that actually uses erosion aight

[cinder cargo]

for instance the atk one is insane on ivan

[rare grove]

Is that the same with emi?

Erosion?

[cinder cargo]

uh... no one really knows how emi works

but she does have some health loss that is for sure

but maybe most of her damage is from actually attacking

[abstract storm]

I don't get how you're getting them so quick, at some point their value collapses 😓

[little bough]

The fantastic beast voyage where only dots work is a good place to test how much health loss heroes do

[indigo quail]

💳 now u get it

[old fog]

HI ALICE

HRU

[fair rapids]

Show your celehypo box I could be wrong

[cinder cargo]

does anyone have bob's guide on health loss

[thin ermine]

s1x has one compiled

[cinder cargo]

Can you link plz

[radiant grotto]

What farara said, yep^
And not limited to it, but are you looking for something like this, JD?

[thin ermine]

[radiant grotto]

🫡
Now bye, gotta stop browsing

[thin ermine]

[cinder cargo]

is this comprehensive?

that's the wrong word

does that span all heroes?

[thin ermine]

ur better off asking s1x later

[radiant grotto]

You seeing Ukyo there too though, right?

that's all I'll say

[fair rapids]

What's prio stats I should go for on my Bert arti @indigo quail

[old fog]

the one which just has a big ol list of heroes with health loss and would benefit from erosion?

[thin ermine]

"Unsorted and might be missing some" quoting s1x

[abstract storm]

Hello Nitro I'm goodddd how have you been?

[indigo quail]

@thin ermine

[fair rapids]

@thin ermine

[old fog]

i am very good we missed u

[thin ermine]

[abstract storm]

Lavatune is trialed

[fair rapids]

You have way more e60's than me

[abstract storm]

I've missed you guys too, have been active in game still just not on discord as much

[thin ermine]

@indigo quail @fair rapids check nihi collection channel. ill post an updated translated one that was posted previously

[old fog]

hard focus erosion, atk, CDA good, and then i believe heal is actually good on him bc of ult. other than that it’s normal def. stats: DR, TY

[fair rapids]

Ty

[indigo quail]

[thin ermine]

[radiant grotto]

do add the observations like we had

[radiant grotto]

and glad you're well, Alice
did miss you, yeah

[old fog]

ya i saw, got you confused with royce at first and thought you quit it’s ok tho

[old fog]

how do u always have so little dias

[indigo quail]

do u want some dias dragon

[thin ermine]

[abstract storm]

💕🫡

[cinder cargo]

@lime zinc

do you know how much damage abelinda does with s2?

is that the big orb thing abelinda shoots out

[fair rapids]

That was yesterday I have like 6k rn

Boys not a bad run

@indigo quail MP decent on LiB

[indigo quail]

yes

[thin ermine]

yes

[indigo quail]

Always a high prio

[gilded salmon]

does mp work on health loss

[old fog]

cuz of my VoW work

[thin ermine]

i think so?

[fair rapids]

Alright boys I'm happy with that

[thin ermine]

but they be exclusive cause theres ers

[thin ermine]

[old fog]

i’m gonna do another run or two or maybe 3 maybe all of them when i get home in 20 mins

[fair rapids]

First decent one in a bit lol

[cinder cargo]

you better be happy with that

[fair rapids]

[mossy bridge]

I dont think so

Cuz MR doesnt affect health loss

[gilded salmon]

so then mp would be bad on lib

[cinder cargo]

it would be ye

[mossy bridge]

Hmmm yeah i think so

[cinder cargo]

you want erosion stack

not doing so kinda trolling

[fair rapids]

So I got lied too

[mossy bridge]

Attack is fine too cuz his orbs scale off attack

[mossy bridge]

I could be trolling maybe mp is good on him

[fair rapids]

[mossy bridge]

Ok so i think his orbs would benefit from MP but not the link

[cinder cargo]

I lowkey think erosion is massively underrated for abel

[mossy bridge]

So MP probably still decent on him

[dusky musk]

Hi does Wyca want more raw Atk>PP since a lot of her skills scale of Atk% or it's still generally better for Pierce instead?

[cinder cargo]

something like 90% of his damage is from link though

[mossy bridge]

actually?

[cinder cargo]

ye

MP does like nothing on him

[mossy bridge]

So erosion>>>att>mp/cda

I guess

[cinder cargo]

also

a new hero might come out and need erosion a lot

[mossy bridge]

Most of the new ops do health loss

Lib,awsaf, emi, naroko

Well maybe not most but a bunch of them

[lime zinc]

Impact dmg or the burn dmg?

[cinder cargo]

burn

it seems to actually do a lot

also would make PRF really good if this is a significant portion of her damage

[lime zinc]

It is a lot

[cinder cargo]

considering her ult is like a one time 200% damage multiplier

[lime zinc]

But idk how noticeable it is outside of Blue

[cinder cargo]

6 seconds of 140% is a lot

[lime zinc]

Might be a good dmg up for CR

[cinder cargo]

because her thing is ignoring DEF and DR and massively stacking self atk boost

[lime zinc]

I super don't know the extent of what PRF affects

[cinder cargo]

but then health loss by default ignores def and DR

[cinder cargo]

I think the burning would count as a negative effect

most burns count

but then how is that even calculated

[lime zinc]

I'd expect so, but I couldn't really say for sure

[cinder cargo]

like is it rounded to the nearest frame?

because I don't think they use javascript code that splits time into tiny segments, otherwise it would be way too memory intensive

[lime zinc]

Well AwBel's is procced by dmg

It's like Naro S2

[cinder cargo]

ok continuing from a 40 minute detour of gallery run

what's better between DISS and HP

[lime zinc]

I don't really know how to value DISS

[cinder cargo]

can you give me a quick diamond value per DISS stat please

[lime zinc]

I think DISS is more applicable to low TY heroes

[cinder cargo]

so not abelinda?

[edgy pumice]

DISS NUTS

GOTTEM

[lime zinc]

Because anything beyond low would rather bank on resisting a CC

[tender arch]

@wise whale mr krimo mind if you give me your wutus

[cinder cargo]

it also makes fox 18 effect less detrimental

[mossy bridge]

Prf seems good cuz CR but idk about diss like, wouldnt u rather just get ty?

[lime zinc]

You'd usually prefer TY over DISS but you don't really have a choice

[cinder cargo]

I do have TY as a choice

[lime zinc]

I don't think DISS is awful but it's not that good

[cinder cargo]

but the thing is TY is only for control effects

whereas DISS is for all effects

[lime zinc]

I still need to compile a list of non-CC debuffs

[cinder cargo]

also abelinda is always backline, is she really at risk of control effects ;ele

[tender arch]

i can also just steal it if you dont mind

[cinder cargo]

I mind

sorry

[tender arch]

nvm then

[lime zinc]

Personally I feel like a lot of the defensive stats are kind of not that different either way

[cinder cargo]

that's not helping me choose sir

[lime zinc]

It's probably fine

[tender arch]

sixeyes

[cinder cargo]

ugh

[tender arch]

can i ask of a favor

[cinder cargo]

idk

[tender arch]

that i wont return

[lime zinc]

[cinder cargo]

I feel like HP might be the play here

[lime zinc]

You can ask, but I won't necessarily grant it

[tender arch]

may i have your wutus

[lime zinc]

Oh

[tender arch]

temporarily

[lime zinc]

Sure l0l

[tender arch]

thanks a lot

[lime zinc]

Half the reason I started working on the CCs list is because I put PRF on Dancer then realised it only affected AwBrutus S3 not ult

[polar dune]

hp is bad , dont get hp

[lime zinc]

[polar dune]

hp is bad on anything isnt a tank

ur welcome

[old fog]

flaw what are the best defensive stats

[polar dune]

atk

[lime zinc]

True

[thin ermine]

[polar dune]

dmg resist is probably my pick

[lime zinc]

DR is generically good yeah

[tender arch]

my antandra helping

[old fog]

ik that one, it’s good on like every hero along with TY

[polar dune]

problem with hp that you will come across is whenever you use the btch u have HP on , your liberta wont prio that

[old fog]

are there any others

[thin ermine]

how important would u rank crit as a stat on a carry flaw?

[cinder cargo]

I don't have DR as a choice though, well I do but I already picked

[polar dune]

depend on what carry

practically useless on mage

[cinder cargo]

what do you think is best on abelinda out of TY, DISS, BUFFER

[thin ermine]

awthalia, rem type

[polar dune]

i would pick purely PP/atk on them

[cinder cargo]

I'm thinking DISS

[thin ermine]

[polar dune]

and CDA

[thin ermine]

[polar dune]

they ask generally

not as an option for you

[thin ermine]

how about others. like lib?

[polar dune]

only on certain hero i say hp is useful , asol come to mind first

[lime zinc]

Crit should be a big eDPS up for non-int, but it also wouldn't affect peak dmg

[thin ermine]

[polar dune]

lib i say defensive wise , i think armour is pretty good

and heal

[thin ermine]

heal. interesting choice

[polar dune]

idr if they are catergorise as def stat

[lime zinc]

Does armour count shields given to them

[thin ermine]

they r

[lime zinc]

Or is it only shields they give away

[polar dune]

from what i read and interpret with no testing

its both

and I am with the principle im correct until i am not

[thin ermine]

[lime zinc]

I think HEAL was both...?

With RH only being for self

So it'd make sense if armour was both

[thin ermine]

[cinder cargo]

armor is all shields given by the character

if they buff themselves, it counts

but if they get a shield from like ivan, it doesn't count

[lime zinc]

Oh

That's what I initially expected but never tested

Because either was pretty plausible

[wise whale]

[old fog]

want me to do that VoW

[wise whale]

Yes plz

[old fog]

hopping on now, won’t take me long i’ve done it twice now

[tender arch]

too late

[old fog]

@wise whale all done, sorry it took longer was talkin to dad

[tender arch]

guys what do i add to this?

for ts

[old fog]

tamrus, lyca, zol

[tender arch]

ofc

no zol

also tam is only 203. bad?

[old fog]

whane if you got him, or jerome maybe

idk lemme go look

[tender arch]

jerome E only

no whane

[old fog]

why tf ur jerome so small bro

[golden lantern]

anasta?

[tender arch]

cause ive been putting gems into sg only

[old fog]

anasta if 209

[golden lantern]

^^

[tender arch]

anasta is 209 luckily

[old fog]

mulan can also work, mishk if ur rlly out of options

[tender arch]

for tam right?

so like so yes?

[golden lantern]

that jero

[tender arch]

[old fog]

tam for jerome

[golden lantern]

asafff and allyyca in same team??

[old fog]

ya what’s up with that

[tender arch]

?

[old fog]

just put naroko in or smth and you’ll be fine

[tender arch]

idk. ive seen people do it. and thalia is elsewhere so

[golden lantern]

that felt aggressive it was not meant to be rude sory.

[old fog]

anasta fl maybe but don’t matter too much

[tender arch]

fl?

[golden lantern]

hmm alyca can probs go abel

[old fog]

front

[tender arch]

right

[old fog]

wycabel pre good

[golden lantern]

and naro can go in

[tender arch]

oke.

[golden lantern]

show teams affter

[tender arch]

oh wait

no naroko

[golden lantern]

[mossy bridge]

Im running Asaf GOATmisu naroko backline on alna rem

[mossy bridge]

She can work at E

Test her

[old fog]

wher dae

[mossy bridge]

No have

[tender arch]

literally no naroko

id have to hcp one

[old fog]

wtf bad

[mossy bridge]

[golden lantern]

dae too good

[old fog]

do you get like 0 scrolls yumi

[mossy bridge]

Ikr i need to build her

[old fog]

she so good to have

[golden lantern]

im bulding lava rn

[mossy bridge]

I need more sg cards

[tender arch]

yep

idk where yall get scrolls from lol

i get none now a days

[old fog]

i’m building one copy of athalia coz i need the collection

[golden lantern]

oh

i got all collections

i forgot about that

[old fog]

well i got seal 18 today

[golden lantern]

YAY

[old fog]

it’s so painful i gazed a copy of zol too

and might have to for orthros too

[golden lantern]

such a stupid thing

[tender arch]

[golden lantern]

rcl on rem yntil abel comes

[old fog]

stfu vip 14902

[golden lantern]

owl 18 when

[tender arch]

[tender arch]

mever

never

[old fog]

seal 18 so good

[golden lantern]

took a lot of tries

[fair rapids]

[golden lantern]

my budget is going too low now

f2p lally coming 🫡

[tender arch]

first two fine?

[golden lantern]

looks good just rcl on rem until abel coomes

[fair rapids]

🤝

[tender arch]

have it as lion in formations but ill change it to rcl in ts.

[golden lantern]

[tender arch]

next?

[polar dune]

fk

[golden lantern]

dim kids

[tender arch]

[cinder cargo]

who is that for

[polar dune]

idek

[tender arch]

merlins not 9f yet so cant use him

[cinder cargo]

probably lorsan

[golden lantern]

got bert built?

[tender arch]

303e60

[cinder cargo]

but then I don't even know if lorsan link actually uses his erosion

[golden lantern]

im guessing no luci

[golden lantern]

ya put him in

[tender arch]

lucis L+ with a copy

[golden lantern]

no luci

[indigo quail]

Good for Dae

[tender arch]

?

[golden lantern]

until more built

[indigo quail]

[tender arch]

icy

[polar dune]

yep i am putting it on dae

[tender arch]

@golden lantern smth like this maybe?

[golden lantern]

bedo and brutus infront

[tender arch]

ok

[golden lantern]

give them seal until seal team imo

then maybe fox

[tender arch]

oke. next then?

[golden lantern]

abel alyca

team

u got ivan built yes?

rowan ezizh, abel alyca ivan

RCL

[old fog]

best stats on bert are (in order) erosion, atk, cda, mp yes? and defensive you want. DR, TY, heal

[golden lantern]

i have 0 clue

[tender arch]

yes

[lime zinc]

I think Atk might be best because it affects his heals too
For TS it'd be ERR then Atk though (because all that matters is faster ult when your ult instakills)

[golden lantern]

[old fog]

so, atk = err, erosion, cda, mp in that order? what abt defensive

[solemn sage]

dmg resist is the best by far

[lime zinc]

Defensive is just same as anyone else except heal is also good

[old fog]

yea and TY right

[solemn sage]

TY for TS

[old fog]

hp still good or no

[solemn sage]

but not a big deal for other modes

atk/hp are really dependent on how collections stack

if they're multiplicative then they're great

[lime zinc]

Collec is multiplicative after everything else

At least, that's what it says in-game

[tender arch]

@golden lantern what would you do next?

[solemn sage]

is that confirmed? Almost everything else in the game is additive with eachother

[old fog]

do some sort of stall team maybe

[lime zinc]

It specifically says in-game that's how it works

[solemn sage]

okay I should read infoboxes more

[lime zinc]

Oh the wording is kinda unclear ig

But that's how I interpreted it

[solemn sage]

that does sound multiplicative

[tender arch]

[golden lantern]

probs seal/stall t eam

[solemn sage]

Atk/HP should both be great then

[lime zinc]

It'd be weird for them to put that if it was just additive like normal

[solemn sage]

defense still meh even with multiplicative

aside from maybe some edge cases like hendrik

[old fog]

so, offensive: atk = err > erosion > cda > mp
defensive: DR > TY = HP > Heal

that’s my impression

[lime zinc]

AwBrutus S2 scales def too

But yeah, very specific

[solemn sage]

TY is mainly just for TS, for general usage I'd put it lower

[untold lion]

After the matching on mystic Starzone there will be another 24 hrs right?

[lime zinc]

I've mostly just picked def if I really had no other choice

[old fog]

i’ll put it below hp and heal maybe

[old fog]

def also pretty decent right

[solemn sage]

no

[lime zinc]

I really don't know much diff they make

Even DR as the all-rounder best isn't that much of an improvement when stuff can easily still insta die regardless

[tender arch]

no clue what i am doing

[solemn sage]

Def is only good against small hits

which means it's useless at any deficit, and useless against anything with a big atk% multiplier

which is most meta carries

[golden lantern]

i think normal talene is better than awk if u got it

[tender arch]

switched

[worldly belfry]

can i make teams for cy

[tender arch]

for sure i dont mind. just gotta make sure cys fine with it

[worldly belfry]

[tender arch]

ill dm ya should he allow it

[worldly belfry]

alright, ill reply after classes probably

[tender arch]

alg. dont expect an answer too soon

[worldly belfry]

yah, cy is the nursing one right or dolphin

[tender arch]

anyhow. what you think atm ducky?

[tender arch]

cy is yes

[worldly belfry]

can i see box

[tender arch]

for sure.

@worldly belfry

thats just whats in rc atm

[misty epoch]

Good morning cusjoermlers

[indigo quail]

Retired

[indigo quail]

hi azor

[tender arch]

gm az0rrrr

[misty epoch]