nightmare-corridor

[cursive epoch]

all 12 copies?

[steady fjord]

11 because 1 was from scrolls

[abstract scroll]

Believe in the mauler rng

[cursive epoch]

thats pretty good

i got 10 abels in 385 or something

was my best cause i got 2 from normal pulls when i started

[steady fjord]

It was like 1st copy 60, 1 from scrolls, then 10 in 320

[abstract scroll]

I finished Abel and aathalia in 660 cards, only reason I'm at 5 wokes

[steady fjord]

I think mine were roughly, 600, 400, 600, 500

[abstract scroll]

Ur average is 39.5 VeriSlightlyBelowAverage

[cursive epoch]

mine has been 385, 510, 618, 500 or something like that

[steady fjord]

Last yr was basically 2.5 AWs total if you include the AwBel release freebies (ik she was in Jan but idk when I finished the AW before that)

[cursive epoch]

do you have asol, abrutus, abaden and abel?

[steady fjord]

AwThane, AwBrutus, AwBaden, AwBel in that order

[cursive epoch]

you should get with the times, old man...

[steady fjord]

AwThane was last yr, AwBrutus was because I was too cautious to build AwBel at release and went for guaranteed benefit, AwBaden was because AwBel wasn't available for swap

[cursive epoch]

next one is between lyca and asaf for you?

[steady fjord]

Yeah

Well, kinda including AW GB because I won't have enough until that's much closer (prob will have enough 50-75% through AwLyca ship)

[cursive epoch]

you can just get lucky

[abstract scroll]

Just gotta hope athane maintains his position in NC

[cursive epoch]

we have 2 more months of athane

more like 6 weeks but something like that

[steady fjord]

Yeah 6wks until FDaemon leaves

For some reason AwThane could trigger Soul Hound CC in the event version but not in NC

[cursive epoch]

was he ever used any other round?

[steady fjord]

He was meta for Ice Shem (at the very start)

Was also used for Mask before Kane rotated

Oh it's open now

[abstract scroll]

Wow that was horrible

[cursive epoch]

do you have your thane available?

[drifting kayak]

What to merc for this NC ?

Can Athalia kill hound without rem ?

[abstract scroll]

Lemme check

Yeah still available

[cursive epoch]

can i have it? gonna try L asol athalia for hound and thane for fire daemon

[abstract scroll]

Free up a slot

[cursive epoch]

done

[abstract scroll]

[cursive epoch]

ty

[cursive epoch]

@noble wadi

[noble wadi]

ye its useless for me

[cursive epoch]

[cedar forge]

prob best i’ll manage since my bert n ernie trial ends in 12 hours

[surreal plinth]

Wont beat you this week

[cursive epoch]

28b is easy

unless you already beat it

[surreal plinth]

This is NC

[cursive epoch]

oh

i'm confused

i'm done with NC, can only improve it by 4s max with godly rng

[steady fjord]

28b is easy in NC, just kill like 4 bosses

[surreal plinth]

Yeah Im done aswell

[cursive epoch]

that got me t20% last time

i think my time was 541

[surreal plinth]

No idea why your soul is <1min. Is it really just twins?

[cursive epoch]

asaf sp, but it ranges from 1:12 to 58

and puppet hits consistently 114 but once a blue moon you'll get that time

[surreal plinth]

My puppet is fairly consistent 55 and soul is consistent 105

Need to make eorin bigger

[cursive epoch]

isn't bigger e60?

[steady fjord]

I probably should reso spooder

[surreal plinth]

Need to get his nodes lol

[cursive epoch]

oh, i thought you had done that already

[surreal plinth]

Oh asaf sp really is the play

[cursive epoch]

yea, it ranges but peak is faster

please don't beat me tho

[surreal plinth]

I think I could if I were to spam like 100 retries to hope for best abel and scarlet rng to line up but 5:33 should be fine for now

[cursive epoch]

stop

[surreal plinth]

I wont lol

As in I wont rng that just to spite you

[cursive epoch]

that for now scares me

[surreal plinth]

I mean if someone finds an insane r5 with the buff that can shave off decent time Im gonna do that ofc

[cursive epoch]

it's funny cause you don't have haelus and i don't have vei

so both of us can do 3 cele

[surreal plinth]

I also cant really move vei out of r6

[cursive epoch]

i tried morael, athalia and alna and all of them were bad

with hae + twins

[surreal plinth]

Maybe something like zaph for the initial cc when you are replacing aezizh?

[merry ridge]

Why this can’t hit 28s? Anyone knows the magic?

[spiral rose]

What are you guys using r4? I have basically no supports left

[merry ridge]

Eorin was the man instead or lorsan round 6

[cursive epoch]

[spiral rose]

Ok it's a mess lol

[cursive epoch]

can you show your teams joux

[spiral rose]

Cant kill r2 either with the same comp as last 😠

Hound can win but it's rng

R6 just slorped up all the good supports

Fuck lilith

[unkempt nebula]

mmm yummy supports

[spiral rose]

I think 6 k is just too greedy for me this week

Back to 5

[silent aurora]

u spent 6k dias in rewinds?

[cursive epoch]

what pets

[spiral rose]

Why doesn't that screen show pets

[cursive epoch]

it does, but you took the ss too fast

[spiral rose]

The images loaded out of order so r1-r6 is

Souffle moth/fox owl blade, green ball, seal

[cursive epoch]

pets take a while to load :sometimes

[spiral rose]

I went back and got 5k by giving up on puppet

Just took all my shit for that one round

[cursive epoch]

[spiral rose]

Did you hit Cr yet

[surreal plinth]

I assume you tried L swolise in r6?

[spiral rose]

R6 is too doomed I gave up on it

I need basically everything there to kill other rounds

[surreal plinth]

You dont have reso 9 yet do you?

[spiral rose]

I do

[surreal plinth]

[spiral rose]

You confuse me with pizza

[surreal plinth]

Your eorin doesnt kill fire daemon right?

Eorin Mulan Silas Luc JoA Lion

[spiral rose]

It did last week but didnt this week

[unkempt nebula]

[spiral rose]

I need Silas in r5 tho if I want to kill soul hound and puppet

[cursive epoch]

can't hodg sub for silas?

or you need it for mask?

[spiral rose]

It's very sus, a consistent r2 kill last week turned into not even close consistently, I put a lot of attempts

[surreal plinth]

This doesnt kill mask for you right?

[west turret]

oo NC open

[surreal plinth]

Nvm I keep forgetting that shit 6k > fast 5k

[steady fjord]

That's what I use for Mask and it's only ~50s with my invest

[drifting kayak]

Can Aathalia kill hound without Rem ?

[surreal plinth]

Maybe with Vei

[drifting kayak]

Dont have him either :/

[surreal plinth]

Then probably not I think

[drifting kayak]

And if i use rem on hound i wont be able to kill nemora cuz i dont have maetria

[west turret]

i accidentally 4K puppet with trial luci, bert, asol, silas

[cursive epoch]

[steady fjord]

AwAtha can prob get like 40-45s R5 without Rem or Twins

[silent aurora]

any comp that can kill the puppet without the new heroes

[modest blaze]

Doubt

[steady fjord]

Yeah but you'd have to use smth like Rem/Estri/Dae/Palmer/Twins

[noble wadi]

[unkempt nebula]

looks like my times

[noble wadi]

not a single sub1

[spiral rose]

What is the difference between best score and best result

Any time 6 kill is higher ranked than any 5 kill right?

[noble wadi]

best score this auto "session"

[spiral rose]

Ah

[noble wadi]

so in 9 tries i didnt get 6 kills

[noble wadi]

ye

[steady fjord]

I want to see a 2min 5 kill get replaced by an 8m30s 6 kill

[golden river]

I wanna see someone with an 8:30 6 kill that’s pretty impressive

[spiral rose]

I got 8:10 or something last round

[golden river]

oh

[spiral rose]

Yeah you feel bad now don't you

[golden river]

Someone that’s not you joux

[spiral rose]

It was my first 6k too

Puppet is a real bitch cause it takes my Merc and all my good support to kill, the other rounds suffer a lot

[golden river]

I do feel bad

Puppet and soul hound are so annoying

[unkempt nebula]

Can't wait for maiden to be even worse

[spiral rose]

I'll prob never kill puppet again unless someone finds a budget kill with E lucilla or something

[golden river]

Seeing the last two bosses, maiden is probably gonna require even more supports

[unkempt nebula]

We need new powercreep to make these bosses easy, but then bosses after will be so much harder lmao

[spiral rose]

The first bosses were so easy, it's unfair

[golden river]

Yeah they were sooo easy..like wtf scarlet can kill mask..

[spiral rose]

No I mean like idre lol

[golden river]

But now you require the twins and spooder for puppet

[spiral rose]

Eorin can kill idre with almost no support

[golden river]

Oh the first first bosses

[unkempt nebula]

Or maybe Lilith plans to keep these bosses long term so they're preemptively balanced around the powercreep COPIUM

[spiral rose]

Even mask and fire demon are fine

[golden river]

Yeah it was so much easier

[spiral rose]

We still have to hope it'll rotate around eventually otherwise investing in bosses feels so shit

[golden river]

:COPIUM: Lilith has their best interest for us

[spiral rose]

Even if they do you invest for a boss that's gone for months

[steady fjord]

My dream is to see the legendary 9m5s 6 kill

[golden river]

If idre, Kane, dune and all ever come back

[unkempt nebula]

But no shemira

[steady fjord]

Ice shem was about the same time as FDaemon anyway

[golden river]

They’ve all been gone for so long

[spiral rose]

Rlly hope I can find a place for Mae once nemora is out

Maebe on puppet

[golden river]

:copium: or maybe maiden

[cursive epoch]

i think she can work on puppet

[spiral rose]

Hope it's useful enough to kill without max lucilla

[cursive epoch]

yea, i might get a luci copy in 2 weeks

[spiral rose]

I'm waiting to finish Bert then see if it's worth getting a copy

[cursive epoch]

yea

i got my bert to M

i finally got average odds up until now

[spiral rose]

I've had amazing odds on bert

I haven't counted but never more than 30

And many back to back

[cursive epoch]

mine is at 41 avg

which is incredible considering how much i've been getting shafted

70 + 50 + 10 + 70 + 60 + 20 + 10 for now

[merry ridge]

Grats!

Berta looks quite good

[west turret]

Better than my 50 avg

[cursive epoch]

[drifting kayak]

Actually i cant kill more than 3 bosses and i was for sure at 4 always

[spiral rose]

Do you have trial?

[drifting kayak]

Nope i used them previous nc for 5 kills

[spiral rose]

Rip, you know if you trial on Sunday you can use trial for 2 rounds right?

[drifting kayak]

Nope xD good to know

My problem is hound

[spiral rose]

My problem is the fucking puppet

[unkempt nebula]

my problem is both of them

[drifting kayak]

I can borrow maetria for first voss but i cant kill hound

Also Abaden is borrowed

[cursive epoch]

thats a cool fire daemon kill

[spiral rose]

Hound actually is pretty cheap kill for me albeit slow and somewhat rng

[cursive epoch]

do you have daemia?

[drifting kayak]

Just E

[hard stratus]

Why wont this work?

[cursive epoch]

have you tried her for mask?

[cursive epoch]

try swapping aezizh and vei positions and swapping hodgkin with silas

[hard stratus]

Using Silas in 2 thiugh

Didn't work

[drifting kayak]

I think i did … i dont remember … whats the full comp ?

[cursive epoch]

i imagine just daemia instead of either rosa or twins might be enough, you can also try swapping raine with rosa and moving raine to mask instead

[drifting kayak]

Let me try it

[drifting kayak]

It worked with mask but not with 3rd boss now

[cursive epoch]

did you try twins instead of rosa?

or abaden instead of rosa

[drifting kayak]

In 3rd boss ?

@cursive epoch ok i did 4 bosses now without a merc … which hero can kill hound ? I can borrow Maetria for first boss and use rem and solice in hound but still cant beat it

[spiral rose]

Here's my soul hound if it helps

Idk what you have left

[drifting kayak]

I dont have vei and berto only E

[drifting kayak]

I can borrow one of them though

[hard stratus]

Maybe I just need to ascend my vei

Bs

Can't tell me that wouldn't work

[spiral rose]

I have vei or M+30 Bert to lend... could try if you want

[spiral rose]

Do you have twins free?

[surreal plinth]

Not with AEzizh front

[hard stratus]

Nah it didn't work with vei up front either

[surreal plinth]

Also tiny vei useless

[hard stratus]

Twins used in 1

Not even tiny like that it's average at least

[spiral rose]

Shouldn't need twins r1

Anyway soul hound will be very hard

[hard stratus]

Very budget works every time tho

[spiral rose]

Here's a more budget but also slow AF kill

[eager topaz]

Good it hasn't arrived here...yet

[surreal plinth]

It is tiny. He needs 9f at least to be considered (sub)dps

[spiral rose]

Mine does okay without 9f but I have e60

[surreal plinth]

Yeah it's either of those 2

I think e60 is the big damage boost

[spiral rose]

Try numisu to free up twins

[surreal plinth]

But who does e60 before 9f

[spiral rose]

Yeah 9f buffs allies more when he gets overhealed

I was overflowing in cores and nothing else to do lol

[surreal plinth]

Lol

[hard stratus]

Bro who tf is numisu

Nah I don't have numisu built

[drifting kayak]

Lol 10b exactly and loss

[spiral rose]

Best of luck with soul hound then, it's hard without twins. Maybe dae would be enough idk

[hard stratus]

I can't even sub twins for like asolise for some reason

Maybe not for some reason

But when I try hound with twins it reallt doesn't fix anything

[spiral rose]

Do you have Silas? At least 209 but 309 preferred

[drifting kayak]

First boss comp ? Without rem or maetria ?

[hard stratus]

Using Silas in 2 though

[drifting kayak]

U dont need silas in 2

[opal veldt]

Whom could I use to kill the third one (Mask)?

[spiral rose]

This is my cheapest but slow kill, try it out and see if you can get other rounds to work (use green ball)

[hard stratus]

Would this work with more investment or should I just change it

[drifting kayak]

Finallyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[spiral rose]

Nice!

[drifting kayak]

Big big RNG … loaned Berto

[cursive epoch]

good job! nice 5 kills

[drifting kayak]

Thx bro

[spiral rose]

Too bad it's likely gone soon

[cedar forge]

ira bug works here too

[sullen valve]

4 kill team

[cedar forge]

that can’t be real wth 😭

[west turret]

@cursive epoch whats ur optimal non ira time

[cedar forge]

this is awesome

[regal thunder]

Any team f2p that kill the clown with 4 hero?

[cedar forge]

man i needed the twins trials to kill 6 but because of the reset they timed out

[cursive epoch]

it was 58s with trials

[noble wadi]

Back to 5 kills

[abstract scroll]

Merc white boy

[ebon cargo]

ultra free soul hound buff kill

[unkempt nebula]

But then how do you kill clown

[ebon cargo]

i don't know how the fuck you kill the puppet in the first place

[regal thunder]

No heal

Mortas and spider

[ebon cargo]

No reso 9

[regal thunder]

Reso 6?

[cedar forge]

4 boss team kill.
the lucretia needs rng

[ebon cargo]

yea

No mortas though 😭

[drifting kayak]

Thx mate

[shy bison]

Top 6,5% thats new

[spiral rose]

I hope I'm now ahead of ppl who popped trial early and lost it during the reset

Good thing I waited longer

[shy bison]

same

have both my trial now

[cursive epoch]

thats me

[shy bison]

went from top 25% to 6,5%

[cursive epoch]

whats your % joux?

[spiral rose]

Did you kill puppet without?

[cursive epoch]

no

[spiral rose]

22% rip

[cursive epoch]

wth you're ahead of me? whats your time

[spiral rose]

4:40

[cursive epoch]

5 kills?

[spiral rose]

Yeah

[noble wadi]

from 8% to 27

[spiral rose]

I had 36s hound kill with trials

[shy bison]

which boss you cant kill ?

[spiral rose]

Puppet

Even with trials I couldn't kill him without losing a kill in another round

[noble wadi]

wtf how

[spiral rose]

He takes my Merc and several support to kill

[shy bison]

definitly not bc like all top times got deleted after the patch

[noble wadi]

i meant 27%

[shy bison]

what are you using

[spiral rose]

I'm op... and still have trials

[noble wadi]

illegal

[cursive epoch]

ye 😠

i'm losing to joux just like the old days

[spiral rose]

Luci cut like 30s off the kill without her

I can share comps if you want

[spiral rose]

But prob the difference is just having trials for soul hound

[noble wadi]

i got puppet to 40% with M+ bert merc asol and palmer

maybe maxed one will be able to kill

[shy bison]

imagin using them for soul hound

[spiral rose]

My trial is only 3f and e56 😦

[noble wadi]

also no spooder 9 so its a diff i guess

[spiral rose]

It doesn't kill unless i stack the hell out of the comp. And I still don't have spider lol

[shy bison]

wanna try my comp?
50 sec with fully build ASolise

[cursive epoch]

i'm banking everything on my upcoming bert

[spiral rose]

It's a nice comp but won't work for me, thanks tho

[shy bison]

why though ?

[spiral rose]

How soon to max him

[spiral rose]

Too small, no spider

[shy bison]

Who th is bert

[cursive epoch]

i don't know if i'll be able to si30 him

unless i stop hoarding

[noble wadi]

you have to stop at some point tho

[spiral rose]

I did that already lol

Silas is never gonna get +30

Tho don't pick red chests in boxes 🤮

[cursive epoch]

i'll get e4x + 3f after mv/trift

and some t4s

[faint wyvern]

Liberta

[shy bison]

Got some chests to spare

[cursive epoch]

[noble wadi]

whats the budget comp for r3

[cursive epoch]

mine is cheap

[noble wadi]

i need lorsan on nemora

[cursive epoch]

then you might need anasta?

[noble wadi]

anasta is on daemon

[cursive epoch]

do you have rowan free? don't know if it works

[noble wadi]

it doesnt

[cursive epoch]

oooh, no palmer

that's getting harder and harder

[unkempt nebula]

Mishka

[noble wadi]

im trying to find 5 kill without merc and then use merc if whatever is the slowest

[unkempt nebula]

Just merc to get the 5th

[river palm]

Then u can use Ira to get the 6th

[cursive epoch]

he did that!!!

[river palm]

[cursive epoch]

[noble wadi]

need fatter bert

and spooder 9

[noble wadi]

what do you use on beast?

i mean hound

[cursive epoch]

i use asaf but you don't need iit

[shy bison]

you know the bug just got fixed ?

[noble wadi]

[cursive epoch]

rem emi aezizh silas twins

that kills

[noble wadi]

you know ira has 100% uptime heal block?

[icy tinsel]

Wait you can use Ira for that..?

[shy bison]

she just bad

[cursive epoch]

can you use that comp for hound?

[cedar forge]

please explain

[noble wadi]

you need insane burst to kill him without heal block so it should work with stronger bert

[noble wadi]

how much is seal doing

[cursive epoch]

2.7

[noble wadi]

[cursive epoch]

but you have 25s leeway

do you have lion12?

[noble wadi]

ye

on scarlet

[cursive epoch]

i think lion gets into that rng range

you need reso 9 pizza

[river palm]

U have reso6 and lion 12

[noble wadi]

ok not bad

rip without buff tho

[cursive epoch]

how far from reso9?

[noble wadi]

2 seals but i dont want to enable it

[cursive epoch]

no blade right

[noble wadi]

i want enough spices for at last seal 15

[cursive epoch]

[west turret]

Is there a dae less mask kill

[spiral rose]

NVM ty friendo, I had to spice a spider tho lol

[noble wadi]

E dae works but you need palmer

[cursive epoch]

[spiral rose]

Means just another seal copy I need 😦

[noble wadi]

do you have some tries left?

[unkempt nebula]

Not having spider is rough but I must stay strong

7 more pets for seal 18

[spiral rose]

No

[noble wadi]

rip

[spiral rose]

Only 200 dia for more if you have some big brain idea

[noble wadi]

nah dont waste

i just wanted to see ira instead of eorin

[spiral rose]

But otherwise I'll be happy with 6 kills, should put me in a good spot ranking

[cursive epoch]

i'm saving that clear for later, thanks joux 🥹

[spiral rose]

Mortas has anti heal yeah?

[noble wadi]

[spiral rose]

I assumed so when I put him in but I didn't read

[cursive epoch]

no clue, but i'll try keeping him with mae iif i can

[spiral rose]

If that can work with no lucilla or just a small one puppet might be okay

It was pretty rng tho

[spiral rose]

[noble wadi]

is it good or bad lol

[spiral rose]

I didn't see him getting huge health spikes

So idk if that even worked

[steady fjord]

Pretty sure he can't cast it on bosses

[spiral rose]

I tried Silas and it was worse

[noble wadi]

was he healing tho

[spiral rose]

Yeah

So pointless but he still buffed

[noble wadi]

with ira he cant heal at all

[cursive epoch]

ira has to survive tho

[spiral rose]

Fk it I'll try

[noble wadi]

shes surviving

[cursive epoch]

i tried ira and she just died

[noble wadi]

with ease

dafuq

[cursive epoch]

first puppet hit killed her, but mine isn't L+

[steady fjord]

Best meme anti heal is Satrana 3F

[west turret]

This worked for me

[noble wadi]

im dumb lol you can see puppet heals in the stats at the end

[cursive epoch]

[noble wadi]

40m

[cursive epoch]

thats nothing tho

[noble wadi]

vs 2.4b

[unkempt nebula]

damn so ira is actually op

[spiral rose]

Ok ira didn't work for me, got it down to 27% tho. With a bigger Bert or solise could def kill

[noble wadi]

what did you swap

[spiral rose]

Or someone better than mortas

I tried eorin and mortas, swapping eorin was better

[steady fjord]

If I had AwSol and spooder I'd prob get 40s R6

[spiral rose]

I don't wanna spend more diamonds but this has potential next week

[cursive epoch]

pizza is too smart

[noble wadi]

that yesterdays kills was fakeish tho cause she did 1b with the bug but it didnt trigger the infinite dmg (?) idk wtf happened there

[cursive epoch]

i'm trying once to see what happens

with smol bert + asol merc

[noble wadi]

idk if that 2nd part is only for her or every health loss dmg

[spiral rose]

She did 500m for me but that's with mortas buffing her

[noble wadi]

maybe it wasnt bug then

i have no idea

[cursive epoch]

she died

[noble wadi]

she didnt

[cursive epoch]

[noble wadi]

oh

weird

mine didnt die once unless i wanted her to die

[spiral rose]

With the big solise the boss takes DMG faster and deals more DMG sooner

[cursive epoch]

i'll just wait, my bert sucks still

[spiral rose]

Gonna need e36 at least

And pray for a non lucilla kill

[cursive epoch]

i'll use L asol lucilla merc

[noble wadi]

she takes some dmg but far from dying

[spiral rose]

If you can find one lol

[cursive epoch]

i asked hythlo

i just need to remind her

[west turret]

Lmk if someone has a decent mask kill without dae

[spiral rose]

I struggle for mercless r2 , tho I can do it with rng

[noble wadi]

i was doing it with some weird comp with L asol

[cursive epoch]

the comp anaste uses doesn't work for you? or is that one that's rng

[noble wadi]

way before

[steady fjord]

Merc ira

[spiral rose]

It's like a 1:28 kill so mega rng lol

[pseudo fable]

Works for me

[noble wadi]

rem

[pseudo fable]

Liberta op

[noble wadi]

how much spices if from 9 to 15?

[cursive epoch]

12 + 9

[noble wadi]

ill get 7 after activating reso

[steady fjord]

pizza was asking what the answer to 12+9 is

[regal thunder]

12?

[cursive epoch]

from 12 to 15 costs 4 a lvl

[noble wadi]

time to become bait hoe

[cursive epoch]

so you need 14 more

[spiral rose]

Is there a remless soul hound

[noble wadi]

if i get 2 seals from normal pulls but i dont think ill get the rng

[cursive epoch]

probably with the buff

[noble wadi]

wait there are baits in celestial isles and then another baits when exchanging right

[cursive epoch]

yea

[steady fjord]

Vei + 1 of (AwAtha/AwBaden/Rem/AwSaf)

[noble wadi]

i guess ill be 1$ whale for few days

[cursive epoch]

we lost pizza nooooo

[shy bison]

see

[cedar forge]

is getting satrana 3f better than using ira?

[steady fjord]

Should be better if you actually had it but it's kind of a waste of furn unless you randomly already have it like I do

[stuck thorn]

is a 30960 crassio better than a 30030 maetria?

[abstract scroll]

If saf included yes

Probably still better even without saf

[stuck thorn]

what can lucilla be replaced with on the liberta comp?

[keen bridge]

Treznor can block healing if you're referring to the puppet master.

[west turret]

Luci went home

[river palm]

Heal block? It's Ira time

[ebon cargo]

it's so funny that after the ira bug is patched we discover ira is actually unironically good

[west turret]

Yep cheap tech for newer folks

[ebon cargo]

Well, it's a kill... rofl

[river palm]

Ira is actually op

Good job @noble wadi

[ebon cargo]

I still don't know how to do the 4 hero kill tho

[river palm]

Rewind time 28 hours use Ira when she was bugged

[ebon cargo]

They reset the quests too didnt they

[river palm]

Nope

[unkempt nebula]

putting ira in when you already have luci doesnt count

[ebon cargo]

It makes me wonder whether any of the other rare heroes have op mechanics

What if arden's cc trivializes soul hound

[west turret]

Ikr at least we get to keep our 3-4K reward

Alna, Ira, Bert

[west turret]

[ebon cargo]

I just tested it and it does not seem to reduce his shields. It's unfortunate, because Arden's ult does a lot of instances of dmg so if he could become the whistle bearer he would be really good

It does 5 hits so it would instantly destroy the shield

But i guess the soul hound doesn't move so it can't be rooted?

[steady fjord]

Hound stacks have a minimum cooldown between gaining them

So arden ult would only maybe get 2 at max if it even worked

[ebon cargo]

morvus has fast cc too

[steady fjord]

3s is a very short time frame when heroes take like 2s to walk on field

[ebon cargo]

zolrath morvus tech?????

[steady fjord]

Idk any that actually compete with L AwEz

Because AwEz ult also pulses dmg to build stacks

[ebon cargo]

yeah but clearly no one has tested anything with garbage heroes

[steady fjord]

I haven't seen fodder testing

[river palm]

Arden did get tested

Doubt morvus did

I didn't know morvus had cc

[ebon cargo]

I wonder if zol's ability would make more random cc things work

[ebon cargo]

He has a 50% chance to cc with every attack lmao

[steady fjord]

Autos are too slow to be <3s

[ebon cargo]

honestly a lot of the fodder heroes have some real interesting skills

look at angelo's ult lol

[spiral rose]

Angelo is a menace to fight in the very early game

[ebon cargo]

also ankhira has some almost real seeming debuffs

this looks like it technically fits the bill

[cedar forge]

super neat design

[noble wadi]

another tanky shit

[cedar forge]

probably

[steep creek]

Looks is reskinned giratina

[west turret]

It’s a final boss cockroach

[silent aurora]

hope its not p2w

anyone manged to kill puppet without the new celehypos?

[sleek grove]

@abstract scroll

crassio merc

if i can get r3 to 30 sec ish i might get t200

[abstract scroll]

Are Trish and worm built?

[sleek grove]

trish 30360 and worm 303

that r5 with trish is 10 sec slower tho

and r4 with worm is mid too

[abstract scroll]

[violet hornet]

Zaph in r5

[sleek grove]

maybe i can get palmer out of r4 somehow

[abstract scroll]

Ok so what if, vei instead of dae, Brutus r1 and dae r4 palmer r3

[sleek grove]

brutus r1 is also 10s slower

[abstract scroll]

Tree difference?

Looking back at your tree it should be enough

[sleek grove]

yeah no idea whats wrong with it

maybe i find e60 crassio

[sleek grove]

HOW IS THIS STILL SO SLOW @abstract scroll

[abstract scroll]

I'm confused

[sleek grove]

why did i e30 crassio smh

if i didnt worm would be e60 and i wouldnt have to try so hard

[sleek grove]

if this is not enough i will kms

[merry ridge]

Trying to improve my score

[abstract scroll]

Probably not enough

[sleek grove]

i know but there is nothing i can do smh

[abstract scroll]

9f Trish problem solved

[sleek grove]

my only problem is that akka doesnt have e60 worm

and thats because of me

[abstract scroll]

What'd u do

[sleek grove]

e30 crassio

[abstract scroll]

[sleek grove]

its fine she will be next e60 anyways

well not counting woke

[sleek grove]

if crassio is bis in new boss i will die and stuff

[abstract scroll]

I want him to be bis so I can justify swapping to him

[steady fjord]

Maybe I should swap to Trish

[abstract scroll]

E60 too expensive for me I'd rather merc

[proper quiver]

Hi all! I'm doing some research on AFK endgame experience. If you're at Ch40+ and open to chat, please DM me! Happy to compensate for your time 🙏

[spiral rose]

lilith plant

[river palm]

Fed-b-gone

[proper quiver]

Not Lilith 🙂 working on a different rpg and just trying to learn

[spiral rose]

well if you want to learn from lilith don't make stupid power caps

[cedar forge]

and be subtle with your powercreep

[silent aurora]

or you can dgaf and just go full EA 😀

[thorn roost]

Some one got a build Liberta i can merc right now? got all AW ID: 15740117

[formal totem]

weirdest nc run in my afk life, save it if i actually need it next cycle
myu

[river palm]

r u like a pokemon

potatogate

wait u building trishea

[cursive epoch]

i love your kills, myu they are so cool

[west turret]

Myu slow your r1 time a bit more gotta edge closer to limit

Same with r5

[river palm]

wonder if myu can get the legendary 9m 6-kill

[honest timber]

cursed kill

[lyric night]

if it helps anyone: 4m4s+ i dont bother with nc rng ever cause im in R4.....i dont get much reward from slightly higher rank anyways. merced trish.

[noble wadi]

wtf vei

[cursive epoch]

[noble wadi]

wait i didnt show the time

[cursive epoch]

nice, seal 11 already

[noble wadi]

[noble wadi]

wait this *

[cursive epoch]

did you get 6 kills with that soul hound comp?

[noble wadi]

idk how tf he popped off so hard

[noble wadi]

i didnt even touch r6

just wanted to get a bit better time with reso 9

[cursive epoch]

oh

[noble wadi]

and i improved cr a bit

[cursive epoch]

what cr rank did you get

[noble wadi]

was 95% before

[cursive epoch]

that's close to bait territory

[noble wadi]

[cursive epoch]

[merry ridge]

Bro that’s some whale numbers

[silent aurora]

hopefully new comps will be made for puppet

[west turret]

I think my vei needs Bert

[noble wadi]

it was a miracle

he did like x3 more than usual that run

[west turret]

an RNG nc

[spiral rose]

I got puppet to 3.5% so close

Ok got the 6 kill, now I can optimise it later

[noble wadi]

all 3 attempts the same thing

[spiral rose]

Are you overheating sometimes r3?

[noble wadi]

i have no idea how that boss works

FINALLY

[spiral rose]

With big Belinda and Ivan sometimes you can do too much DMG early and he one shots your supports

[noble wadi]

insane rng

[cursive epoch]

gz pizza!!

[spiral rose]

Idk what to do r2 my kill is 1:29.4s lol

Maybe I +30 eorin

[noble wadi]

i still dont understand how this works

anything else i put there it makes it not kill

[spiral rose]

Big rem

[river palm]

Whi can u sub r1 for mortas

[noble wadi]

[river palm]

Where salami

[spiral rose]

Salami over lorsan

[noble wadi]

lorsan is op

[spiral rose]

Why white ball

[noble wadi]

because

[spiral rose]

Do you die

[spiral rose]

Ig you die

You know who can protect you

Salami

[noble wadi]

white ball

[spiral rose]

Not a real simp

[noble wadi]

i never said im simping him

wtf

[thick nova]

High ty probably, might be RNG reliant

[lucid plover]

I still have 2 Quests remaining and I can't find any guides on how to beat them.

1: Kill Mask Curator int he state of "Feral Pulse"

2: Kill Demonic Puppet in the state of "Fiendish Flame"

can anyone help?

[formal totem]

hit nc so early

[river palm]

It's fiendish Flame rn, so if u kill it u get the quest. First quest already passed by, too late to get it. The states are buffs, the buff changes every week

[river palm]

In case u forget later on

[ebon cargo]

if only i could get this to work

[unkempt nebula]

should've abused ira bug while it was up

[west turret]

5:08 subbed Ira for cruke

[dim spruce]

Any way to kill.demonic puppet with 4 heroes without liberta lucille trial? Last quest and need it to buy frampton lol

[surreal plinth]

Just leaving this here I guess

[cursive epoch]

[surreal plinth]

:wtfisthis:

[spiral rose]

what are the odds an M+30 bert does this (hint: 0)

[river palm]

Who tf afford Bert and luci

[surreal plinth]

Wtf that Bert is a merc :wtfisthis:

[spiral rose]

imagine building lucilla first

[cursive epoch]

nnoitorra knows what heroes he likes

[surreal plinth]

[west turret]

Imma not push nc until I engrave Ivan

[river palm]

Hello german fbi

[surreal plinth]

Oh I think my fbi agent already hung himself

[cursive epoch]

[surreal plinth]

[west turret]

How’d my teams look celz

[cursive epoch]

i wish i could copy

[west turret]

Cruke is was like .5 sec faster I just didn’t rng the other bosses so imma ignore it for now til I get some more upgrades by end of week

[west turret]

[river palm]

[surreal plinth]

Im literally slower than aefryn the whale

[spiral rose]

you have 2 mins on me 😠

f2p life is hard

[surreal plinth]

[spiral rose]

r2 really kills me the most, I take max time there

[west turret]

R6 will kill me with buff is gone

But I hate mask rn, I want to make it faster or maintain it and move dae elsewhere

[surreal plinth]

Tbh buff barely even improves my time

[spiral rose]

yeah I'm hoping somehow mae will make r6 work next round

[surreal plinth]

It just frees vei for r2 and better time there

[spiral rose]

I wasn't killing it when I tested without trial last week

[west turret]

What are you using for r1? With no Mae

[spiral rose]

r1 is gone next

[west turret]

I was gonna try Mae r6 just for faster time if I can get something good for r1

Ahh right

[spiral rose]

new boss

[west turret]

Roach

[spiral rose]

https://tenor.com/view/gwent-gwentcard-neutral-roach-gif-13385024

[west turret]

Portal party

[spiral rose]

whyca will help nc a lot too I bet

tho her ability will maybe slow things down at the start idk

[river palm]

I gladly sacrifice 3 seconds for 1500 energy

[cursive epoch]

it's fine for now

[river palm]

My only hit did 6m10s yet I'm called kraken :wtfisthis:

[cursive epoch]

cause you didn't even try yet

[median copper]

Which r is this?

[river palm]

Soul hound

[ebon cargo]

So sad i can't get twins this nc rotation because i didn't use bug ira

[unkempt nebula]

buying twins

[ebon cargo]

in half a year i'll have m twins and you'll have nothing

[median copper]

Wut the heck how did it kill

[unkempt nebula]

yeah and I'll have way more baits and reds

[river palm]

Are there any Puppet 4-kill with only one of the twins and without Ira bug

[steady fjord]

I used smth like Rem/Dae/Twins/Palmer - Seal

[spiral rose]

Not a lot more actually, imo M twins is worth at least and I'm a big bait hoe

NC bait is really bad ratio

[unkempt nebula]

[spiral rose]

Celowz did the math and convinced me but I don't recall what the exact amount of bait lost was

My buy is twins tg sg and red chest

[unkempt nebula]

ok maybe next month I'll start

[cursive epoch]

if you build twins you automatically lose 100 baits a month

[unkempt nebula]

gross

[cursive epoch]

then you choose if you want 100 baits or 10 sg + 10 reds

[spiral rose]

Twins survival is still important for NC and cr

[cursive epoch]

and joux said that sg + reds are more valuable by a lot

[unkempt nebula]

im just gonna buy juice instead fuck everything else

[spiral rose]

All in juice

[unkempt nebula]

bigger support tree = more survival

[river palm]

Its 200 bait/month from nc. Assuming u have E+ Twins, it's choice between M twins OR 1200 bait ( 4 copy) + 600 juice + 60 reds

[unkempt nebula]

its 6 copies from e+ to m

[river palm]

Yeah

That's why all the number start with multiple of 6

[spiral rose]

celowz numbers were more convincing than this to buy twins, wtf celowz why did you lie to me

[river palm]

I'm buying Twins

[cursive epoch]

how

[spiral rose]

idk whatever you told me twins looked better, potato's numbers less so

[cursive epoch]

1200 looks like a lot, but it's over 6 months, and only if you don't buy 100 baits instead of sg + reds or juice or whatever

[spiral rose]

now I'm commited and will M them at least, idk about A

[river palm]

I can give u different number instead, if u buy Twins ur tr ranking go up to number 1 every time ez

[spiral rose]

100 bait is only 4k dia value at shop bait levels

I'm not even buying shop bait rn until I finish bert so that's definitely a no go

[river palm]

Don't u have some sort of beef with Diamond value

Anyway if u go by what it would take to gaze Twins, buying Twins is easily better than buying bait. So if u ever plan on gaze Twins u should take them over bait

[unkempt nebula]

I don't think I ever plan to gaze twins

[river palm]

Yeah that's why it's an if

[spiral rose]

diamond value is still a good reference point

I don't consider shop bait worth it for me rn and this is worse than shop bait, ergo not worth it for me

[unkempt nebula]

not with how many diamonds I'm gonna have to spend to reroll the stats on my pants

[steady fjord]

Dia value is a good reference if it's smth you'd actually spend dia on

[spiral rose]

stuff like events is bad to compare diamond value

cause that totally ignores the power difference

[cursive epoch]

@slow dust

r2 lowrolled 7s

[spiral rose]

18 seal

[cursive epoch]

i just got it today

[spiral rose]

you trying to make me whale again aren't you

[slow dust]

L twins wtf

You whale

[cursive epoch]

if you have a orthros copy you can improve your time

[river palm]

Do it, always surrender to the pressure of your peers. If what they were doing wasn't right and cool then they wouldn't be your peers after all

[spiral rose]

celowz is way ahead of me, not exactly a peer

[slow dust]

I do

[spiral rose]

pizza is closer but still ahead

[cursive epoch]

swap c&r for orthros

try c&r for luc

[spiral rose]

cruke does defense reduction

[spiral rose]

how are you still slower

[cursive epoch]

cause his tree sucks

[spiral rose]

ah he didn't buy yuexi juice yet

[slow dust]

[cursive epoch]

15 warr 25 sorc

i have 25 warr and 47 sorc

[spiral rose]

damn 25 warr you whale

I'm at 15 warr and 45 sorc, tho I have 45 cele too

[cursive epoch]

i don't

i have 35 cele 37 sust

[surreal plinth]

Did a couple cr hits if you wanna copy

[spiral rose]

i think we're close to even on tree but I might be slightly ahead, I can't count

[steady fjord]

Your r5 would be like 20s faster if it was might 107

[cursive epoch]

[slow dust]

Should I change anything up

[surreal plinth]

This was a truly interesting result when the same comp usually hits like 5b

[spiral rose]

yeah whale like 100 more levels in each branch

[slow dust]

[cursive epoch]

can you enable your r6?

[surreal plinth]

Wtf it got auto-disabled

[cursive epoch]

i think it disables every week

last time that you couldn't see mine that had happened

[spiral rose]

yeah it does, that's so annoying

[slow dust]

[surreal plinth]

Stupid

[cursive epoch]

so i have 2 dead rounds this week

[surreal plinth]

Why

[slow dust]

R5 gona be dead for me

[cursive epoch]

no vei no asol

[slow dust]

R4

[surreal plinth]

Oh

Welp

[slow dust]

I have no sol

[cursive epoch]

did you try r6 no daemia?

[surreal plinth]

Nah I didnt want to bother swapping stuff around. Gonna wait for jhawk

Just wanted to get some hits in in case I forget or die or sth

[steady fjord]

Best I got R4 (with L AwSol no E60 for Astar) was a fluke 3.8b

[surreal plinth]

Soon

[cursive epoch]

i should probably do saurus first before tamrus if i don't get his 9f soon

[surreal plinth]

I keep putting off tamrus

[steady fjord]

A30 Naroko was better R4 than 30960 Mish

[cursive epoch]

whats your cr region, s1x?

[surreal plinth]

Still didnt get a single Naroko copy

[cursive epoch]

wanna see your clears

[steady fjord]

I highly doubt I'm top 100

Maybe because it's early
I'm R8

[cursive epoch]

you're there

[spiral rose]

there is no r8

[slow dust]

Tf

[cursive epoch]

not again

[steady fjord]

Owl is worse than Souffle or Spooder for R1

[surreal plinth]

Six got reso 12

[slow dust]

Tf

[surreal plinth]

And seal 18

[steady fjord]

I had reso 12 before fox ship ended

[cursive epoch]

i keep sayinig s1x is a fucking kraken

[spiral rose]

take off oden boots it worked last time, must work this time

[steady fjord]

Because my highest beast when I got reso 12 was lvl14

[cursive epoch]

and now you have reso12, lion 15 and seal 18

[slow dust]

It don't that was the lower one lol

[cursive epoch]

[steady fjord]

If I wasn't noob I'd have more than 1 lvl18

[surreal plinth]

Sry just improved by 3b

[spiral rose]

if I wasn't noob I'd have seal 18

[slow dust]

Waden did not peak 1b

I think I give up

[surreal plinth]

Lmao how is your waden so shit

[cursive epoch]

theres something wrong with your r1

[surreal plinth]

I wish gabe was here to make fun of you

[steady fjord]

This is the worst CR for AwBaden but it's hitting 7b instead of 12b kinds of bad

[surreal plinth]

Hes not even getting 1b

[cursive epoch]

#nightmare-corridor message @pure lichen hey gabe, have some fun

[spiral rose]

gabe left again

[cursive epoch]

i think he's here still

[spiral rose]

are you sure BiS is daimon

[slow dust]

This what leaderboards and Nn say

[spiral rose]

no he's gone try pinging deadbeatdevil, nothing

[slow dust]

He just got @ lol

[surreal plinth]

It is

[cursive epoch]

what did i ping?

[spiral rose]

you pinged someone not in the server

[slow dust]

You pinged Gabe

[steady fjord]

The call is coming from inside the house

[cursive epoch]

[slow dust]

How lol

[spiral rose]

if you have their ID you can ping them

[west turret]

why is this the CR chat lol

[spiral rose]

that's such a fucking weird comp

I don't understand CR at all

[cursive epoch]

same

[spiral rose]

my daimon is a dim link right now

[slow dust]

[surreal plinth]

Interestingly enough at lower investments it seems to be way better to have brutus back mid instead of p3

[steady fjord]

reg Brutus: Shout removes dodge
Lorsan: For link
Oden: For grouping

[cursive epoch]

i'm 4.5k baits away from next 18

[spiral rose]

wtf

[surreal plinth]

Wait I just forgot that I already have a second 18

[cursive epoch]

i haven't used any of my batteries

[steady fjord]

And Daimon is just there for inc dmg taken ig

[spiral rose]

I still don't have lion 12

[cursive epoch]

bait nobles op

[spiral rose]

then I will go for reso 12 before taking another 18, maybe trick it tho we'll see

[west turret]

13/24 spice for next lv 18

[cursive epoch]

i'm still not sure which pet between owl and talis helps more for CR

[spiral rose]

owl

[west turret]

i have not touched my bait noble yet, waiting for record reset

[spiral rose]

talismane 18 is bad don't do it

[surreal plinth]

[cursive epoch]

stop baiting me cause you think he's ugly

[surreal plinth]

If it keeps going like this Ill get reso 12 before talis 18

[cursive epoch]

[steady fjord]

What is with joux's obsession with <18 tali

[west turret]

[spiral rose]

no he's bad why don't you trust me

[west turret]

tali animation is cute

[spiral rose]

it's so cute

[west turret]

he blows himself up

[river palm]

When did u turn into bait kraken

[surreal plinth]

Dunno I stopped taking anything but bait like 2 months ago

But I am far from reso 12 so I think we are still equal/you ahead

[west turret]

when he tali turns 18 he barely prances

[slow dust]

I almost have 2 more lvl 11 pets then I'ma take them to

Owl and tali

[cursive epoch]

how

show pets real quick

[slow dust]

18 seal
12 lion
10 tali
10 owl
9 rest

Idk who I'ma pick next

[cursive epoch]

and how many spices do you have right now including batteries

[slow dust]

5

No batteries

Popped them early like dumb dumb

[cursive epoch]

+18 spices

[slow dust]

+5 spice

[cursive epoch]

who's alice

[slow dust]

[cursive epoch]

[summer carbon]

dumb question, but what are batteries? I'm still early on pets, but any info is good

[river palm]

When u have a pet at level 0 that you haven't resonated yet, any copies of that pet that you pull will be refunded to you as spices if and when you do eventually resonate them. Such pets are called spice batteries

[summer carbon]

so before I hit, lets say reso 6, should I get the worst pets on cero's guide and let them be level 0 to use then in future reso tricks?

[river palm]

OK so there's two ways to spice trick

1. Delay hitting the resonance button. Ex. It takes 6 level 12 pets to be able to activate reso12. Once I have 6 level 12 pets, I don't activate reso. Instead I keep leveling my level 9 pets up to 12 naturally. When I do eventually activate reso12, any extra copies of pets #7+ will be refunded as Spice, up to 9 copies per extra pet. (Since it takes 9 copies to go from 9 -> 12. Incidentally, if I have 10 copies of a pet, the 10th copy won't be refunded, I'll just have a pet at 12.1)
2. Get the first copy of a pet you don't have while being at resonance. Ex. I'm at reso12 and I pull for my first copy of Feline Vesperio. On vesperio only, a "resonance" button will appear. Clicking resonance will give you as many copies of that pet as required to level it up to your resonance. If I delay activating resonance on that one specific pet, I can wl copies and pull for that pet. Once I decide to activate resonance on that pet, that pet will go to level 12, and I'll get a number of spice equal to however many copies of that pet I pulled. Note that the pet will be stuck at level 0 until I activate resonance on it. Method 2 is the spice battery method.
   It should be intuitive from this explanation that pulling a single copy of a pet and trying to use it as a battery won't work if you haven't even hit reso 6 yet

[summer carbon]

thank you so much for the explanation potato, I'll ss that and keep for the future when I get closer to that. I got the idea, but it's always good keep it to remember in the future

[storm flax]

But should I do the reso trick at all levels (6/9/12/...)? I heard that you should start doing this after 9 because most pets are only useful at 9. Means rushing to 9 with the most important pets. And skipping reso trick at 6

[spiral rose]

you can trick at 6 just to focus one pet to 9, but it doesn't matter much. Once you get reso 9 you can do a single pet trick with whatever pets you haven't gathered to rush seal 15 (or even 18)

[storm flax]

With my old account at pushed all pets to 6 before activating the resonance.... Pushed me with one to 18

Is this anything someone should do now?

[spiral rose]

I think it's a mistake, rather get reso 9 to make many pets functional, since you need so many teams in TR, NC, etc

[west turret]

agreed with Joux, some big spenders might do it though at 6 so depends which you value

[river palm]

Spice trick reso6 is psychopathic behavior

[west turret]

[thick nova]

Worked in the first try

[river palm]

P3 Palmer

[thick nova]

Yeah, my mistake, but it worked like that

[spiral rose]

hope it works with smol twins

[thick nova]

It was a 1min26s kill, so idk how much of a margin there is for smaller heroes/seal

[unkempt nebula]

oof

[thick nova]

Probably some Merced +30 rem can do better. I think her shield penetration helps here.

[spiral rose]

i have to merc dae

[river palm]

Did u not Ira abuse?

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no i forgot

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Nope no good 😦 it's okay just 10 red chests

[cursive epoch]

small twins not enough?

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got to to 35%, don't wanna spend more attempts

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it feels impossible to make use of this puppet buff

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luci/olgath mortas ezizh worked for me

[ebon cargo]

for 4 man?

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oh 4 man

yeah maybe something with mae

[ebon cargo]

the only wokes i have are belinda and wyca, sad

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when I get an olgath merc I'll try a 4k with mae, but I doubt it works

[ebon cargo]

lucy mae ira mortas with soooder lol

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lucretia sucks ass

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mae is a shit kill and i'm sure solise is doing nothing there

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next week has me v nervous. I think I won't get 6

if the new guy is too hard I might just get 4 lmao