treasure-scramble

[gaunt marten]

nitro is not even a good measure of what youll be fighting in lc and youve just given up

[spice finch]

you get degenerate, but no descreased attack rating

for fox lvl 6

[flat tapir]

should i move alna to aathalia and then put something else on abel team

[cinder cargo]

Do you have rem?

[gaunt marten]

they dont have remilia

[cinder cargo]

[gaunt marten]

new whale no remilia

[old fog]

i’m so confused why does my name keep being mentioned

[spice finch]

i think it's worth it

[worldly belfry]

does it help in ts?

[flat tapir]

cause i did a friendly battle against u cause u have emilia

[old fog]

ohhhhh

[flat tapir]

nitro and ur smol emilia actually beat 2 of my teams

[old fog]

wait i won?

[gaunt marten]

im saying irela is being stupid for saying well i friendly battled 1 person in my fl and thats how i know i cant possible do lc so i wont

[worldly belfry]

alright, i have 3 spices, in saving it for 9 rcl but I can spare 1 for fox

[spice finch]

it is, it helps dim comp/scarlett later on

[flat tapir]

yeah but gabe is right, its 1 team doesn't really matter

[worldly belfry]

alright thanks

[spice finch]

i think it's better if you just put fox on wl and wait, you have time

no need to waste spice

[flat tapir]

i could maybe get out of groups but i dont know what good comps would be for my box

[solemn sage]

I mean I would personally say nobody should think about LC if not a whale

[spice finch]

we get an exchange event soon

[flat tapir]

i dont really have lots of investment tbh

[old fog]

irel you can literally destroy me and whoever you want in lc it’s just that my dim team is my strongest

[gaunt marten]

not having remilia does suck but like, if youre whaling with intent to keep playing by the time they come out then youre fine

if youre whaling and not even going to look at lc then whats the point

[thorny tartan]

Are we?

[flat tapir]

Any good comps i can build?

[thorny tartan]

Oh that kind of exchange nvm

[spice finch]

isn't it start of every month

yea

[worldly belfry]

im 4 more copies off lion 12 iirc

[solemn sage]

I mean we're getting new powercreep very soon, meta might completely change

[feral coral]

I'm 6 copies off 18

[old fog]

how do u know? js curious

[gaunt marten]

bc we are due for one

[old fog]

oh i see

[flat tapir]

celehypo release?

[solemn sage]

there's been a powercreep every july since the game started

only exception was last year, pets didn't come out until sept

[worldly belfry]

wont raine be better than rowan in team 1?

[old fog]

i’m scared will it put a load of stuff out of meta?

[solemn sage]

2019 SIs
2020 furn
2021 engravings
2022 pets

[feral coral]

Pls no power creep

[gaunt marten]

no one knows

[flat tapir]

raine > rowan?

[solemn sage]

OP heroes will stay OP

[old fog]

abel not falling off any time soon then yes?

[gaunt marten]

pets will still be op

[solemn sage]

but mid-low tier heroes could swap around a bit

[old fog]

pets will always be op

[gaunt marten]

i mean abel still sucking toes in ts in many regions but shes still used in most pve content

[feral coral]

Lucretia was op

[flat tapir]

lucretia probably going to fall off?

[solemn sage]

and she stayed OP after engravings

[gaunt marten]

shes already off

[flat tapir]

shes good but i think she isnt worth investing into ianymore

[old fog]

she’s good for early game pvp she put out some great numbers for me this ts

[flat tapir]

ya she def fell off

shes not really anywhere near my radar anymore

[solemn sage]

she didn't fall off because of new systems, she fell off from 1.5 years of stronger heroes getting released

[gaunt marten]

you dont even know, she used to be pvp staple

[old fog]

lucy is off but she’s a key hero for campaign so people still build her. you could prolly skip her now tho

[gaunt marten]

new region is why

[feral coral]

Ah that's what you meant

[old fog]

yeah that’s what i meant

[flat tapir]

mine is e60, but i dont really regret it. cause yes i use her for campaign and tower and ive been using her in TS

[gaunt marten]

i did not tell you to do that

[solemn sage]

engravings didn't instantly make any good heroes fall out of meta

[old fog]

get her to e67 i beg

[flat tapir]

hell no

[gaunt marten]

wait abel or lucy

[flat tapir]

shes getting 0 investment

[feral coral]

That's so dumb

[gaunt marten]

please tell me its abel

[old fog]

oh wait

better be abel

[flat tapir]

what u guys talking about

[old fog]

is ur able or lucy e60

[flat tapir]

my lucy has been e60 for weeks and my abel is e44 rn

[gaunt marten]

[old fog]

noooooo

[flat tapir]

is abel e60 even good besides for stats

[solemn sage]

but lilith was too lazy to make good engravings for every hero

so most old heroes just got slight damage increase e30s/e60

[flat tapir]

abel e60 is only good if the fight is super long right

[gaunt marten]

e67 you are trying to be competitive so do it

e60 is nothing its e67

lucy is e30 and some nodes i cant rememebr im tired

[old fog]

my abel is only e41 what are the nodes for e44? i’ve got atk haste and mp rn

[gaunt marten]

idfk mine is e67

she keeps eating my furn dupes i need those for gb

[solemn sage]

going past e60 is way too expensive for me

too many other e60s I still want

[old fog]

is lucy still worth getting to 9f too

[flat tapir]

yeah perp im not e67ing for awhile

[gaunt marten]

i was recommended it for comp so

[solemn sage]

luc is still hypo tower staple

[flat tapir]

i have a crazy amt of uninveste dheroes

and yes i dont regret making my lucy e60 at all lol

[worldly belfry]

and campaign

[solemn sage]

unless we get a new crazy hypo carry you'll need luc for hypo tower

[gaunt marten]

you will regret it

p sure he has mae

[solemn sage]

she's falling out of campaign at least at the higher level

[flat tapir]

shes an entire campaign team and shes the only reason i can climb tower

[worldly belfry]

luc is still relevant in newer region TS also

[gaunt marten]

i thought you whaled mae

[flat tapir]

my mae is e60

[solemn sage]

I only used luc in like 2 stages in ch51 I'm pretty sure

[old fog]

i use her in portal party she does pretty decent

[solemn sage]

2 team tower

[gaunt marten]

cruke seal is what i do at 2 team for 2nd team

lucy just kinda vibes

[worldly belfry]

i use mine in 5p, just 50%+

[flat tapir]

cruke is gna be my next e44

[solemn sage]

in the 6-700s it's all luc

[flat tapir]

i have too many e0s

[gaunt marten]

why the fuck are you e44 cruke im going to strangle you

[worldly belfry]

its good considering low investment team

[solemn sage]

sometimes mae is with luc, sometimes mae is with mehira

[flat tapir]

cus i dont have the resources to just e60 everything

[solemn sage]

but luc is always the carry on her team

[gaunt marten]

some things are e60

[old fog]

are there any heroes that really want e60

[gaunt marten]

yes

many really good pvp heroes want e60, like cruke

[old fog]

i got a load of stuff e30-44 but no one e60

[gaunt marten]

you are also basically f2p

[misty epoch]

What does Cruke e60 do?

[gaunt marten]

irela is not

[old fog]

i’m close to it yeah lmao

[misty epoch]

Mine's only e41

[gaunt marten]

it reduces enemy dr when he uses his cage thing

i forget by how much though

[flat tapir]

i have no mats rly

cores and juice are hard to come by and i havent been swiping for that

[gaunt marten]

whaling juice is stupid

[flat tapir]

when the exchange event comes im doing cores/si

[solemn sage]

most heroes still work before e60

[flat tapir]

or cores/bait

[solemn sage]

just e60 is big upgrade on a lot of them

the only mandatory e60 I can think of off top of my head is mishka

[flat tapir]

e60 aathalia was the biggest upgrade

[gaunt marten]

yeah im just giving him a hard time bc he wants to be top ranked in everything but e60ing lucy for whatever reason

[flat tapir]

and yes she should probably be higher but i legit dont have the mats for that

and why would i e67 shit when i only hae 3 heroes at e60

[gaunt marten]

e60 is fine

bc youre baby kraken i expect it

also e67 helps in mirror match and a lot of ppl are gonna be running abel in your baby whale bracket bc theyre going to have built abel first but probably wont have her nodes

[old fog]

that’s true a lot of them will have stopped at e4x or just e60

[misty epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/dumbo-octopus-orange-takodachi-ninomae-inanis-cute-gif-24104068

[flat tapir]

u told me to not e60 her yet cus i didnt need to btw

[misty epoch]

Baby kraken

[gaunt marten]

just go full fucking kraken

[old fog]

is that a dumbo octopus

[flat tapir]

[misty epoch]

Yes

[flat tapir]

ill e60 her whenever i can

eventually e67

[gaunt marten]

no leave her at e44 until you can e67 no in between

[old fog]

i thought it might be i love those things

[flat tapir]

how many cores is e60 -> e67

[misty epoch]

They're so cute

[gaunt marten]

its a lot

[flat tapir]

cause even the perp guy said its expensive

[old fog]

ikr

[misty epoch]

e60 to e67 is 2100 cores

300 each node

[flat tapir]

WTF

[gaunt marten]

[old fog]

golly

[flat tapir]

hell na

[gaunt marten]

you wanna play with the big boys

[flat tapir]

that is not worth to do for awhile

esp when i dont have a lot of e60s

[solemn sage]

yeah major nodes past e60 are crazy expensive

[flat tapir]

thats over half an e60

[gaunt marten]

its so stupid

[solemn sage]

e61s for haste can be justified sometimes

but attack node is nuts

[old fog]

what nodes does abel want i keep seeing e44 even tho mine is only e41

[flat tapir]

that is really disgusting

[misty epoch]

CDA too

[gaunt marten]

offensive

[solemn sage]

it's 4500 cores for e30-e60, 6000 for e60-e80

[gaunt marten]

i have a few nodes on awthalia just for mirror matches

bc i dont intend to get stars on her rn

[solemn sage]

your logic is opposite of mine

if I'm gonna invest past e60 I'm also gonna get stars

[old fog]

wait so i’ve got mp haste and atk nodes what’s the other

[gaunt marten]

i mean, right now i cannot

[flat tapir]

guys i have a question. maes furn. is it still op if ur not using dims?

[gaunt marten]

what

[flat tapir]

wait

[gaunt marten]

sir read her sp

[flat tapir]

it doesnt say ur dims or cele

[fair needle]

You use her with hypos

[flat tapir]

nvm

im going to end up carding her 3f today

[gaunt marten]

ill get awthalia to 3 stars next month

[flat tapir]

wait nvm i just pulled 1 daemia fun

[solemn sage]

mae in dims is mostly used for her revive

[flat tapir]

nah im still gna card mae 3f

[solemn sage]

dims without mae lose to dims with mae because the revive and cleanup

[gaunt marten]

i just cant afford star chasing woke rn have to pick investment wisely im saving sg and tc

[misty epoch]

CDA or crit, I don't remember

[fair needle]

I have 5 pieces of Ginneas furniture already for no reason

[gaunt marten]

i think its crit

i spent 20 tc for asaf on loverboy today and no copy

can i just die yet

[flat tapir]

dude u would hate me

i swear ive had disgusting rates on her

[old fog]

wait i’m so confused crit is tied to atk and cda is tied to haste no?

[fair needle]

Ginneas furniture good?

[gaunt marten]

i already have her built on devilboy so idc

yes ginneas wants everything

[flat tapir]

i think ill end up having bad rates eventually, maybe ht next woke i build

[misty epoch]

Crit gives higher chance to crit, CDA amplifies your crit damage

So both are tied to attack

[flat tapir]

asaf felt good in tower even at M+

[misty epoch]

Haste just means faster animation so faster attacks

[old fog]

no i mean the nodes, isn’t crit and atk on the same node and cda and mp are on the same node?

[misty epoch]

That's how I understand it

[old fog]

yeah ik how the nodes work lol

[solemn sage]

what stats are paired on nodes is random

[flat tapir]

i never thought id say this

i need Saurus

[solemn sage]

different heroes have different pairings

[flat tapir]

for nc

[solemn sage]

lilith just makes it up as they go

[gaunt marten]

you will need him for cr too

[flat tapir]

im 2 copies off of him

[misty epoch]

Yea, if you mean what decide primary and secondary stat on a node, it's just random

[old fog]

i’ve got 8/8 on him and the fodder but tamtam first

[flat tapir]

i just used my elite faction cards cus its w.e since i have 13 mauler faction cards

[fair needle]

I like how Eorin kills everyone in tower

[flat tapir]

got copy needed of ivan for engraving and some other good pulls

[old fog]

do u mind if i dm u what i mean i’m choosing the wrong words to use and it would be better if i could send some screenies

[flat tapir]

im tempted to card daemia for the 9f ship bonus

[gaunt marten]

@quartz salmon enjoy my very big boy

[flat tapir]

no reason to not just get the free 3k poe esp since her 9f is disgustingly broken

time to do wandering balloons for poe

[misty epoch]

Sure

[old fog]

tyty

[quasi torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/neom-cliffed-squid-octopus-gif-23050425

[old fog]

turtle did you push campaign yet

[quasi torrent]

i am. 52 a bit tough. specifically the dims. 3 man cheese clear is possible btw i got it

[old fog]

ya ik it’s made possible by 5* call

[fair needle]

First time in forever I didn't use Thoran cheese in Campaign when I pushed 43

Felt good

[quasi torrent]

ldv thalia is great

[fair needle]

Thoran cheese needs to go extinct

[quartz salmon]

Thank you

[quasi torrent]

doubt

[solemn sage]

thoran cheese will be around as long as campaign/tower are designed around pushing insane deficits

[quasi torrent]

so rly it will never die out. unless ppl collectively agree campaign isnt worth anymore and just stop pushing

[solemn sage]

or lilith stops adding more campaign/tower floors

[quasi torrent]

prolly will do that once chap 100 or 5000 floors

[quartz salmon]

But wait isn’t this cr r1 one of the overheating ones?

[storm moth]

[thorny tartan]

I need to wait until less than 24hrs left in nc/cr for optimal trial right?

[storm moth]

yeah

[thorny tartan]

But it shouldnt matter tho or am I missing sth. Trial lasts for 3 days. So no matter when I use it today its gonna last till wednesday and nc/cr reopens on tuesday

[storm moth]

well you can use it now

but if you use it later there will be more time to test stuff after new cr/nc opens

but doesnt matter that much

[thorny tartan]

I guess yeah. Not like Id place anywhere great anyways

[storm moth]

[misty epoch]

[quasi torrent]

hows 12-61 bro. ik thats a tough one

[gaunt marten]

Too late he's your problem now

[thorny tartan]

Ivan is insane. He doubled my r2 damage

[quartz salmon]

Now that’s sexy

[quartz salmon]

I can’t get more than 7b welp

[thorny tartan]

I went from 3 to 7 lol

[quartz salmon]

Damn

[worthy rapids]

YEP

[feral coral]

@quartz salmon where have you been

[thorny tartan]

Stop the count. I want cr plate

[worthy rapids]

thoughts on spicing rcl 9 and then naturaling seal for reso 9 + some spices from the trick?

[cedar copper]

here's hoping 🙏

[still heron]

Rank ?

[quartz salmon]

Lots of partying

[quartz salmon]

39b with Ivan trial, can’t get more than 34b now

[still heron]

[quartz salmon]

You meant ts?

[still heron]

Are u using smoku's clears

Cr

[quartz salmon]

Yes pretty much

[worthy rapids]

ok i did it

[still heron]

[feral coral]

[cinder cargo]

And make RC completely obsolete

[quartz salmon]

Welp why r1 sucks ass

I never got lorsan link right

[still heron]

Im happy with 52b

[quartz salmon]

Oden 23 lorsan 56 haste

[quartz salmon]

Nice

[still heron]

Oden needs more haste then Lorsan ?

[quartz salmon]

Lorsan needs more to link correctly

[still heron]

Oden 53
Lorsan 71

[quartz salmon]

Does he link est to raine?

[still heron]

Wdym

[quartz salmon]

Argh woops

[quartz salmon]

That’s better

I think I’ll engrave lorsan tbh

[thorny tartan]

[quartz salmon]

[still heron]

Mine is E19

[quartz salmon]

Mhh

[storm moth]

why me

[storm moth]

mine is e30

[thorny tartan]

Even bigger whale than kadezh

[quartz salmon]

[still heron]

Hot

[quartz salmon]

Lesgo it works

[worthy rapids]

so thaats why my E lorsan didnt work

[quartz salmon]

[quartz salmon]

2b increase

[still heron]

Im dead

Wtf is this clown doing

[thorny tartan]

I dont think those are their real teams. It shows all kinds of jank there

[still heron]

Thats his lc teams

[thorny tartan]

This is what it shows on mine

[still heron]

Good luck to him

[lime zinc]

Randomised teams strat

[thorny tartan]

Those arent their real teams. That screen is broken

Click your own name. It doesnt have the teams you set

[spice finch]

what did you run?

[worthy rapids]

he did 2934872398b on shemira cus saf

[spice finch]

oooh

my abaden round suck

[worthy rapids]

i got 7.5 once with baden and then like 30 times 2-3

[spice finch]

whats your team?

[worthy rapids]

turned out i did my record without him

[spice finch]

yea, same as me, his dmg sucked

[worthy rapids]

gib maxed ivan

[storm moth]

why cruke

[thorny tartan]

Damage on shem doesnt change much with or without saf. Its basically same

[storm moth]

use alna

[spice finch]

how then

[thorny tartan]

Thx discord compression

[spice finch]

thanks, you did so much dmg some of these rounds

[thorny tartan]

I did try the saf r3 but it did like no damage in comparison to mae

Also as I said shem round is exactly same with or without saf

[obtuse mauve]

I've seen someone using scarlet in r1 and baden (probably, couldn't see) in shemira. Not sure about the boss comp though

[worthy rapids]

This round just sux

Cant use half of the heroes

[lime zinc]

My R2 is so bad

[thorny tartan]

Boss comp then is usually either Rem or Trish

[storm moth]

what are you mercing

[gilded salmon]

Baden

[storm moth]

nvm your mae too smol for r3

saf i mean

[feral coral]

Abel can go kill herself

[feral coral]

Sir how many copies away from A

[storm moth]

5 still

[worthy rapids]

why

[spice finch]

[feral coral]

I've been hitting pity on all my copies

[uncut vapor]

Supo

[lime zinc]

And yet 4F tower are the fastest to get 3 furn

[worthy rapids]

[lime zinc]

Celepo tower only gets 3f at floor 549

[worthy rapids]

but

floras is the issue

not furn

[lime zinc]

Well yeah neither of yours have furn ofc

[spice finch]

hey ck!

[lime zinc]

Oops, activated Ivan trial to do CR/NC and I don't even have my mercs

[gilded salmon]

Scammed again

[spice finch]

i believe salsa 🙏

[gilded salmon]

hahaha no

[lime zinc]

None of the formation copies work because they're all lvl18 beast

[spice finch]

2W-1L again

[fair rapids]

My only time in LC was week 1

Got rolled bc I did not even have a L+ hero

[spice finch]

i got rolled by a talismane

[spice finch]

probably

[fair rapids]

@proven vault trying to leaving the retirement home so soon

[feral coral]

Damn my Abel lost to thoran stall

[fair rapids]

Big sad

[proven vault]

Yeah, now that my results are better I might have a chance

[fair rapids]

I wish you luck

[lofty silo]

Thoran stall is legit op

I use it as first team

[fair rapids]

Ppl in questions calling me mommy

Fk this name

[solemn sage]

you have nobody to blame but yourself

[sour jay]

I have no sympathy

[spice finch]

[worldly belfry]

follow mommy's opinion

[fair rapids]

It's not my choice

Ggk won't help unless I atone

[solemn sage]

okay I put rem job as my 8th team in qualifiers

and 3 of my 4 opponents didn't even get past 2nd team

the one dude who had his own rem job only got to my 4th team

[fair rapids]

Why is the name just
Rem job now

[solemn sage]

tree is really OP at level 240

[solemn sage]

because I'm forcing it

fuck ambiguous names like god comp

[fair rapids]

Yea rem job deff better than God comp

@lime zinc was rem job your idea

[solemn sage]

it was Flaws

[spice finch]

[fair rapids]

Ic

[fair rapids]

[gilded salmon]

wtf 75%? actual hacker

[fair rapids]

Celowz lmk when nitro run out

You don't have to bark this time /j

[spice finch]

nnoitorra is t25% or something

[gilded salmon]

no way...

[spice finch]

yea

i just copied him

i think i could rng my wait a bit into the 65%

[spice finch]

[fair rapids]

[fair rapids]

[spice finch]

how was your nc dragon

[fair rapids]

I have more codes tho and no use for them so I will supply your nitro

[fair rapids]

Lol 100% on the dot

[solemn sage]

oh wait

[spice finch]

which boss did you kill

[solemn sage]

CR is using normal abel now?

[fair rapids]

Eorin one
Scar rem one
Atha one
And Abel one

[solemn sage]

I gotta relink my emilia

[fair rapids]

Idk know names yet so lol

[spice finch]

can't you kill r6 aswell?

[solemn sage]

had her linked to bel

[fair rapids]

Nope

[spice finch]

look at the kill i just posted in #nightmare-corridor

[fair rapids]

My Oden is super small remember

[spice finch]

[fair rapids]

203e4x

[solemn sage]

no orthros this CR is nice

I don't need to screw around with combat rating

[spice finch]

worth copying him i think you can do better than me with seal 12 and vei

[solemn sage]

will pop ivan trial later and see how much his e60 improves it

Grez strong

[spice finch]

[worldly belfry]

stronk belinda

[worldly belfry]

show teams

[solemn sage]

built her for LB tower a long time ago

now she's becoming useful again

[civic badger]

belinda?

[solemn sage]

yeah she's seeing boss usage now

[sour jay]

she gives crit buff

[solemn sage]

20% attack and crit to two allies

[sour jay]

kinda smol, probably will be powercrept eventually but supports get extra privilege with how many we need

[solemn sage]

her e60 adds a big damage buff too but I can't justify that

she also has her passive, +24% damage received by enemy after belinda crits on them 8 times

and 9f reduces enemy CDR

[gilded salmon]

not even legend

[spice finch]

how

[gilded salmon]

mae smol

[spice finch]

can't you merc one? if i knew i could give you mine

[solemn sage]

after a day of pushing each, honestly think ivan helps GB tower more than asaf helps mauler tower

naroko should help

[gilded salmon]

I think I'm better off mercing saf or haelus

[spice finch]

i didn't even use haelus

nor saf

[gilded salmon]

im trying no saf now will see how that goes

[thorny tartan]

Yeah Ivan is insane. Im sadly powercapped but hes just keeping the carry alive unlimitedly so Seal can do its work. Saf doesnt give nearly as much survivability

[spice finch]

yea, ivan + oden basically carried me until i got pcapped

[solemn sage]

or just letting the carry do all the work

[fair rapids]

Kelthur op

[thorny tartan]

Same. Hes now doing the same in campaign actually lol

[earnest tendon]

@proven vault u can give abel to someone

[gilded salmon]

my seal also smol

[spice finch]

isn't it 12?

[gilded salmon]

ye

[spice finch]

i got 1.2b with seal 9

[earnest tendon]

thats a big baby then

[spice finch]

on a good run

[gilded salmon]

on my best run I got the same 😦

belinda also trolling

[thorny tartan]

Not a pet expert but I think there isnt much difference between seal 9 and 12. The big boost comes with 15

Need bigger ivan

[spice finch]

yeah, my abel without ivan hit 4.6, with him i got 8.1

[civic badger]

another must build hero 😭

[olive moat]

How to get second Ivan trial

[thorny tartan]

Make new account

[gilded salmon]

fr

[still heron]

Alt

[sour jay]

gaze him so you have him permanantly

[proven vault]

[oak yarrow]

Hi scrumblers

[gilded salmon]

[still heron]

No scrombl here

[spice finch]

[gilded salmon]

mae just doesnt do anything without haelus

but saf adds a lot to scarlet

[thorny tartan]

Where?

[gilded salmon]

in cr

[spice finch]

[gilded salmon]

M mae problems

[thorny tartan]

Ohh okay yeah that might be it

[spice finch]

you hit more than me with M+ mae

[olive moat]

Interesting pet choices. Did u try estrilda over skriath

[gilded salmon]

copying cursed friends for pets, and no

[thin lodge]

finally

3 days

I finished only 20 points off t100 tho

[earnest tendon]

[sour jay]

What is that tiny belinda

[earnest tendon]

more like how the hell tiny belinda works

[civic badger]

push harder kagami

[earnest tendon]

[earnest tendon]

thats what i have been doing

[proven hearth]

Belinda where?

[civic badger]

i hope a new hero enhancing system comes out soon so that they'll add more misty rewards

[earnest tendon]

if i clear that stage i pushed 2 chapters in 3 days

[still heron]

U can do it

[earnest tendon]

[proven hearth]

238 deficit. 100% doable!

[spice finch]

nice

[still heron]

Hythlo

[earnest tendon]

im just surprised that my weak able works

[civic badger]

238 def's nothing at that point

[proven hearth]

[earnest tendon]

i only sent that screenshot cuz weak abel

[still heron]

What was ur ts rank my lady ?

[earnest tendon]

i know that deficit is nothing

[still heron]

Now poosh....go go go

[spice finch]

that's an emerging talent deficit

[earnest tendon]

but sir im doing that as we speak

[proven hearth]

3rd. Better than ghost

[still heron]

[earnest tendon]

[spice finch]

[still heron]

🥳

[indigo quail]

gratz

[earnest tendon]

[proven hearth]

Gratz! Now on to 50!

[earnest tendon]

[still heron]

Thats impossible

[proven hearth]

47 was my favorite chapter background though

[proven hearth]

Yes, I know

Well, there’s always the swipe pass

[still heron]

Good thing is boss stages are easy now

[earnest tendon]

oh noice my last t4 for abel from chapter clear

[sour jay]

building abelinda now that she sucks

[earnest tendon]

she only bad in ts wdym

[lime zinc]

I'll push to 49 while at the office tomorrow

[sour jay]

yeah TS is the only game mode

[earnest tendon]

[earnest tendon]

not for me

[oak yarrow]

Do mine too thx

[sour jay]

smh

[lime zinc]

I can tell I'm low rank because AwBel still does well

[oak yarrow]

[lime zinc]

Massively better at 7T with my bad rank just stomping not real teams

[proven hearth]

My chapter map really cleared itself out

[oak yarrow]

I’m in 42 still cuz I’m lazy and I wanted max rewards

[sour jay]

my abel did better in later teams

was getting like 30-40% in 4/5 teams

[earnest tendon]

arent u lonely there

[spice finch]

there's only one lost soul there

[proven hearth]

Not really…

[earnest tendon]

[proven hearth]

Well, there’s 3 in the ss

[sour jay]

That frame is so bad, you can't even see the PFP behind it

[oak yarrow]

Yk u a whale when u only w three other people

[solemn sage]

ch59 is kinda neat

[earnest tendon]

got some ranking back at least

[proven hearth]

Reminds me of the d4 tree. Only slightly less blood and heads

[civic badger]

and i'll never get there

[spark prism]

People used to say thing the same thing about ch 42

Power creep is a thing

[polar dune]

yeah but by the time he get there , the bar would move onto bigger thing

the comment in essence just mean i'll never be at that gate point

[spark prism]

Possibly. Doesn’t really matter because chapter rewards suck lol

[civic badger]

chapter rewards need a big buff

[obtuse mauve]

Dw, when next currency is implemented chapter rewards will increase

[civic badger]

hopefully its soon

i'm just chillin at 42

[polar dune]

Mine still has ppl lurking - and like 25-30 ppl where im at

[tranquil crane]

Nice!

[earnest tendon]

[proven hearth]

2T

[polar dune]

[proven hearth]

I didn’t realize how many guildies were on my screen. Thought they were mostly friends

[polar dune]

Yeah they both pop up which is good

[thorny tartan]

16 stages and Im already in pain again. And literally no rewards besides some gems

[gilded salmon]

you guys passed me

[thorny tartan]

Royce did a couple days ago already yeah

Ivan makes gb rounds a cakewalk

[solemn sage]

ivan seems to only need 30 3 e39

[sour jay]

e60 will maybe be nice for pvp at least

too bad he is all shields or it would be nuts in blue

[solemn sage]

9f probably good for campaign/pvp

but unnecessary for bossing

[granite mason]

where atk

he shares atk and haste

[solemn sage]

not worth the cores unless going to e60

[granite mason]

[solemn sage]

that's 750 cores for small increase in what he shares

[granite mason]

i dont think 60% of his own atk is smol and hes used almost everywhere now, like a gb palmer

[solemn sage]

60% of whatever attack node adds

which is what, 8% additive with his other % increases?

[gilded salmon]

e60 seems kinda meh since its not targeted at highest atk

[granite mason]

8% atk node, he shares 60% so its like 4,8% more

[solemn sage]

have to keep in mind equipment/investment increases are additive

between SI, tree, furn, e30 and gear his attack is already at ~160%

so 160->168% is only 5% increase, 60% of that is 3% increase

[granite mason]

[solemn sage]

though he does have haste on stars, so e60 probably worth eventually once he has 5*

[granite mason]

yeah

[earnest tendon]

ill settle with 260 deficit for now

[proven vault]

ch48

Congrats

[sterile zinc]

Makes abel clears so much smoother too. Don’t even need to do charm anymore. She just blasts everyone now with Ivan

[gilded salmon]

wait seal actually messes with thoran

the waves pushed the enemy away from him

[lime zinc]

The wave also stuns, Thoran Seal is more of a seal clear with Thoran helping out

[sour jay]

good with mae, not so good without, but stage dependant

[earnest tendon]

[earnest tendon]

[proven vault]

pushing gb tower with ivan trial rn

[thorny tartan]

Hah interesting. I was stuck on an abel charm stage earlier against vurk, saf and numisu. Ended up brute forcing with asaf and mulan instead

[proven vault]

did you do CR yet ?

[earnest tendon]

no

[proven vault]

I got 21% for now 36b

[gilded salmon]

I want good cr scores

[earnest tendon]

gratz

[sour jay]

time travel to start in 2020

[gilded salmon]

how about you time travel back and give me your account from when you quit

[sour jay]

I mean you can have that acc if you want

[gilded salmon]

nah you gotta give it to me on the day you stopped playing it

[sour jay]

you weren't even born yet

[spice finch]

[gilded salmon]

[spice finch]

campaign is getting hard

[sour jay]

give up

i should push tho, prob should get gazer next MV at least

[spice finch]

yea, 10 sg

[gilded salmon]

get gazers before reset

[sour jay]

no

maybe, I hear the end of 39 is hard

[gilded salmon]

that shit was rough

56 and 60 both took me forever

[spice finch]

i copied salsa and nnoitorra so it was easier

[sour jay]

i don't do many replays, if it doesn't work in the first few tries I slumber

[cedar copper]

correct
society has moved past needing JD cramming

[spice finch]

luc stages are the worst tho

[sour jay]

yes

need to e67 lol

[lime zinc]

Luc stage is why I haven't beat 48-56 yet

[sour jay]

ivan helps luc a bit at least

[lime zinc]

Other 4 rounds took like 6mins total

[sour jay]

my belinda has started kinda shitting the bed too

[spice finch]

yea, abel clears take a while too

i think they were the second worst

[lime zinc]

My AwBel was clearing well even at 303

[olive moat]

I have not been this bankrupt since I started this account

[spice finch]

what did you do

[sour jay]

imagine saving diamonds

[olive moat]

I accidentally bought an RC slot. Also I hcp-ed an Ivan. Also I spent like 3k diamonds trying to learn this CR round. I miss being in 6 digits

[spice finch]

did you improve your cr score?

[olive moat]

But this wouldn't be an issue had I not had to spend 90k extra diamonds on Daemia

[sour jay]

I'm getting close to legend in CR 😎 like 20 more cores 😎

[spice finch]

you got this joux

[sour jay]

i could get it if I merced baden but I cba

CR still hopeless at least for another year

[gilded salmon]

I got so baited by celowz showing me he got 75%

Thought I would finally do good

[spice finch]

you could tho, you got unlucky

you have better stuff than me for this one i'm sure

i usually get d2

[gilded salmon]

no way

[sour jay]

do you have dae salsa

[gilded salmon]

e

[sour jay]

that's the diff I guess, she does good dmg this round I think

[gilded salmon]

no dae, no mae, no ivan

[sour jay]

oh I thought you have mae

[olive moat]

By like half a bil . Im like 23.5b rn. I can peak 26.5b. But I wasn't spamming retries, I spent my diamonds testing different non-woke mercs to see how much damage each one contributes, trying to figure out what my build order should be

[gilded salmon]

still m

[sour jay]

my Mae only added like 1b but I don't have the other stuff for her comps (and tiny seal)

[lime zinc]

I got 20% atm but last hr has crazy drop, should be at least 30% though

[cinder willow]

time to hit CR and NC

[thin ermine]

finally at rc600~

[gilded salmon]

[spice finch]

i think i saw your hit on LB and you got unlucky on abel's round

[thin ermine]

im waiting to merc a white star awbrut for cr/nc

[thin ermine]

❤️

[lime zinc]

I forgot I needed a mae merc for NC so I haven't fixed mine yet

[spice finch]

oooh, that was a non-ivan hit

[thin ermine]

mae, dae, and awathalia gets merced out so quick

[sterile zinc]

I have an asaf mulan brute force team too

[olive moat]

Nah my current LB abel hit is close to peak. No ivan

[lime zinc]

CR r2 rng is pain, I can get 12b with good rng or 7b with bad

[spice finch]

is all your improvement on r4?

i think asol can hit a lot more there

[lime zinc]

Isn't R4 mostly Astar dmg

[sterile zinc]

My r1 is poop my team just keeps dying

[gilded salmon]

my r1 did a lot better this time than last at least lmao

the cursed 500 mil abaden

[spice finch]

i think it's 50/50 asol astar

[lime zinc]

I think my e19 Lorsan is making R1 work now but it's inconsistent

[spice finch]

from royce's hit atleast

[cinder willow]

im not using baden merc this week for CR ;-; trying mae on r3

[polar dune]

bit of both , its contributing

[sterile zinc]

My best was like 1.5b

[proven vault]

how much dmg you got on your best run ? (total)

[lime zinc]

37.2b but peak should be maybe 40b?

[proven vault]

[olive moat]

I can get 1b more r1, 1b r5, 1b r6, and like 500m r3. Astar round can't do more than it does rn, 309 tamrus would add 2b and e60 astar adds another 2b

[proven vault]

with ivan trial or without S1xEyes ?

[lime zinc]

With

[spice finch]

seal rng and baden rng this round sucks, i wanna hit more too but it's not worth it for marginally no more rewards

[proven vault]

got 36b with him

[lime zinc]

Didn't check how much my own A si30 Ivan gets

[sterile zinc]

My own Ivan hit

Obv I don’t have your tree or pets

[lime zinc]

I'm pretty sure I get more dmg mercing for R3 but I can't remember how much AwSol merc boosted R4

[olive moat]

Spamming retries is definitely not worth unless you're like 20%+ . I'm just burning diamonds to learn and construct a build order roadmap. Now that I have to start paying attention to CR I'll probably be spending diamonds on meaningless retries for the next 5 bosses as well, its a cover charge to get an idea of how the mode works

[gilded salmon]

I only hit like 4b with your ivan smh

[sterile zinc]

[polar dune]

if ur mercing its best to merc for R2 or R6 where the dmg potiental is higher

[little cairn]

got fox and owl on wishlist who will be third that gets taken to lvl 15?

Seal?

[polar dune]

seal

[lime zinc]

Oh maybe I should find a Trish merc

[sterile zinc]

I need more stars on my Ivan, that haste is too good

[lime zinc]

Using reg Saf R3 is weirdge though

[polar dune]

Trish merc ceilings is dependent on Daemia

[spice finch]

i think thats a really good strategy for you in the long run now that you have baden and asaf
your potential rank is really high from now with a lot more merc leeway

[lime zinc]

I've got 30936 Dae

[polar dune]

should be enough , mine was sufficient to peak but idk about e36

[feral coral]

Twins did 2b lol

[lime zinc]

Reg Bel dealing less than Twins is pretty funny

[polar dune]

Merc belinda , if it was my own prob bit more

[lime zinc]

I don't even have M Trish

[polar dune]

im refering to the belinda i used

[lime zinc]

Oh right

[sterile zinc]

I’m honestly tempted to build an aathane or abrutus

[thin ermine]

me too lol me too

[sterile zinc]

So I can merc like a fat Trish or something specific

[thin ermine]

aw brut or aw saf here

trish needs to be very fat to out damage the regular bis comp

[sterile zinc]

yeah the merc slot can be used as a flex for random carries like that

[thin ermine]

ive been mercing aw brut aw saf and olgath pretty consistantly. been considering building at least one of them to free up a merc slot

[sterile zinc]

Same, I always merc an abrut or athane and flex dps spot

[olive moat]

Awakened awakened thane

[thin ermine]

im trying to hold my temptation thou. i have a feeling the next celepogean release and aw hero is gonna be pretty worth it. i dont have enough resource to do both the current ones and the next ones

[thin ermine]

[lime zinc]

What is AwBrut merc for

[thin ermine]

CR/NC

[sterile zinc]

The next powercreep

[thin ermine]

some bis comp always uses awbrut

[lime zinc]

He's not even used in most CR or any NC

[polar dune]

u are correct

[thin ermine]

used in current cr round i think

[lime zinc]

Ig CR is like 50% awbrut 50% mae for Seal

[polar dune]

as of last week he is used twice - after this week he will be used once

[lime zinc]

Oh even less than 50%

[polar dune]

he is not used this week in NC BiS

[thin ermine]

R5 bis uses awbrut

[lime zinc]

He hasn't been in NC for ages

[lime zinc]

Nah R5 bis is Mae

[thin ermine]

yeah i use olgath in nc

[polar dune]

yeah I see it

[lime zinc]

Mae took most of AwBrut slots for CR

[polar dune]

bro looking at some abstract document

[thin ermine]

this is from cursed friends doc

[polar dune]

and im top 50 CR

whats ur point

[thin ermine]

lol i cant used the super top teams lol. my damage doesnt hit that high

[lime zinc]

Cursed friends one is outdated because it's pre AwSaf

[polar dune]

its not BiS , it might be for you but its not BiS

[thin ermine]

the test teams uses aw saf for cursed friends ones

i try the other teams too

[polar dune]

and to be straight , the dmg isn't even coming from any of those heroes - its coming from the seal

[thin ermine]

yeah def not for you lol

[polar dune]

so the seal is holding u back mainly , the comp is very interchangable

[lime zinc]

Yeah seal rounds are always dependant on your seal lvl more than the actual hero invest

[thin ermine]

my seal is sooo smol compared. only 15 rn

[polar dune]

the difference of maetria is literally 400m btw - its just a seal round

from a max to just a 309e60

[thin ermine]

wow

[lime zinc]

[polar dune]

ik bc its my hit

seal diff b/w my alt and main

[thin ermine]

smokes

my seal aint ever gonna go beyond 18 thou im pretty sure

[lime zinc]

The point is that it depends on seal more than the heroes

[polar dune]

purpose isn't to force it pass 18 - purpose is to show you aren't losing out on "a lot"

you can compensate 3b on a lot of diff places

u wont be top 50 , but u will be higher

[solemn sage]

let's see if I can get an e60 belinda merc before CR ends

[thin ermine]

i run either aw saf or aw brut merced for cr. depending on what gives me higher dmg. i typically am around the 20%

[solemn sage]

probably better off going for an e100 awakened but curious how big a difference normal bel e60 is

[thin ermine]

hope you find one soon

[solemn sage]

I have a few on my list just a question of if they get on in the next 15 hours

[granite mason]

if u said that 2 days ago i have belinda e60 for you

[thin ermine]

u get a better chance if they havent logged on after the previous refresh

[solemn sage]

kinda annoying mercing old 4F heroes

so many to scroll through cause literally everyone has them 5*

but not many engraved her

[thin ermine]

i wish it was ranked via cmbr lol

[cedar copper]

just multi ping them in disc

I haven't been unfriended for that yet so it's fine

[thin ermine]

[solemn sage]

if I actually really needed the merc I'd ping for it

but this is just something I wanna test

probably not my optimal merc for this round

[thin ermine]

im guessing trish bel comp is bis for cr r6 rn?

[solemn sage]

seems like it

my bel is 30 9, just not engraved

[thin ermine]

i dont have a fat trish anywhere either.....dont think ill be able to run this....

[solemn sage]

most of bnb made fat trish for AE

[thin ermine]

and my bel is smol too lol 203

[polar dune]

203 work , haelus is ur other alternative

[solemn sage]

yeah a big part of bel's buffs don't need much invest

[thin ermine]

thx. then i guess i needa find a fat trish

lemme ask on merc channel

[cedar copper]

my Bel is 200 will she work

[granite mason]

@quartz salmon what rank

[sour jay]

swear to god every brutus stage means hardstuck in wilder tower. waku when

[thin ermine]

how far along r u?

ive been pushing tower to the point i wanna 🤮

[sour jay]

only 415

slow going without asolise

[thin ermine]

tower is so much harded w/o aw heroes.

im guessing uve been pushing for awhile too?

[granite mason]

tower is so much easier with big seal

[thin ermine]

that too lol

imma gonna have to test aw saf in r3, aw brut in r5, and fat trish in r6 for cr to see what works the best....so much work ugh....hopefully i get to merc fat trish from somewhere

[proven vault]

[lime zinc]

[sterile inlet]

Ivan op

[sour jay]

Vivaldi op

[proven vault]

Pushed 60 floors on gb tower thanks to Ivan

Got 18k Poe from quest rewards

[feral coral]

[tranquil crane]

Ivan busted

[gaunt marten]

You dumb mf

[cinder willow]

@raven lark want dae?

[thorny tartan]

@sterile zinc btw saw how close our match was in lc?

[tranquil crane]

show

[thorny tartan]

Oh wait nvm I miscounted. Only killed 1 team after Rem job

[gaunt marten]

Scromble sleeping

[cedar copper]

I remember when u were able to just outheal with saurus

just Pippa Tele an ally tasi and leave it on auto battle for an hour or 2

[gaunt marten]

That sounds like shit I just want to eorin slaughter everything

[sour jay]

wilder tower with eironn carry 😭

[gaunt marten]

[cedar copper]

now that I didn't hear in ages

[sour jay]

bleak days

eorin slaughter is common

eironn less so

[gaunt marten]

I don't remember what I did back in the day in towers

[cedar copper]

I read eironn at first

I refuse to recognize that other imposter

[gaunt marten]

Lmao

[oak yarrow]

I almost have enough wokes to care abt campaign

[cedar copper]

I almost have enough to not care ever again

[sour jay]

he was gonna be called alen apparently

[solemn sage]

it's just internal name

most heroes have different internal names

tasi and nara are dota ripoffs, internal names are pudge and puck

mezoth is just called "fat"

Alen is probably phonetic spelling of the chinese name

[tranquil crane]

[lofty silo]

Campaign is soo easy

I can’t copy teams lmao

[oak yarrow]

Ik I’m js lazy

[lofty silo]

Pets broke campaign lol

[oak yarrow]

Let’s and wokes n tree r all coming quickly Imma jus breeze through campaign when I’m op

[lofty silo]

There is a new feature coming soon, usually its one per year

[cinder willow]

everytime i want to help out in questions i read the past chat for 2 mins and i lose my interest

[proven hearth]

[cinder willow]

headache speedrun

[spice finch]

atleast you tried

[proven hearth]

There’s no one there to help now. Rip mee6 exp

[cinder willow]

rent a quakie for questions

[proven hearth]

My answer are too whale and too clownish

This is when I stopped seriously helping in questions

[spice finch]

that was long ago

[proven hearth]

It was

Left an impression

[cinder willow]

PTSD

i just get a headache hearing about e60 grez and daimon

[proven hearth]

Well… e60 Daimon is really nice

[spice finch]

"when"

[cinder willow]

[spice finch]

joke

[cinder willow]

i have 30930 but i dont think id ever consider 60

[spice finch]

why did you do that to yourself quakie

[proven hearth]

I didn’t think so either

[cinder willow]

recommend it as your first ever e60 though

daimon top prio for campaign

right..?

[proven hearth]

Uh no

E60’d aEzizh first

[cinder willow]

i usually tend to e60 my dreaf before that though

am i doing it wrong

[proven hearth]

Not at all

[cinder willow]

good thanks for the assistance

[cinder willow]

CS when???

[proven hearth]

[spice finch]

yea, then you can spend your day shitposting on #taverns-chat-room

[tranquil crane]

Get their ass, @abstract storm

[spice finch]

how is that 71%

oh

[tranquil crane]

in the battle wager ui if you click Alice you get this

people might be assuming these are Alice's real teams

[spice finch]

that person is pretty stacked tho

[tranquil crane]

yeah they are XD

[indigo quail]

Why 41-52 manual

[abstract storm]

No idea why it shows that lol, these are my teams right now.

[tranquil crane]

[abstract storm]

Hopefully I actually make it past the ro16 this time 🫣

[spice finch]

you got this

[cinder willow]

[gilded salmon]

ok am I putting joan, yen or queen on my furn wl next for 9f

[indigo quail]

joan

[gaunt marten]

Scromnle

[gilded salmon]

🫡

[gaunt marten]

I forgot to sign up for lc

I passed out

[gilded salmon]

you have to sign up?

[tranquil crane]

whats that even mean lol

[gaunt marten]

Like didn't open it for when it selected me for groups so it just ran whatever

If it even runs bc ts won't if you don't select route

[gilded salmon]

oh damn

[gaunt marten]

I can't remember if it's like ts where it needs you to actually opt in

[quartz salmon]

t56
I fucked up

[quartz salmon]

[polar dune]

its a good scouting tools

eliminate a lot of comp possiblity because it would order those by most recent 5*

[indigo quail]

finally, c&r op af

[worldly belfry]

[granite mason]

if you didnt start from 1% things might change

[tranquil crane]

oh interesting, good to know

[polar dune]

one unique way is to check kraken or smart investor to see if they would e60 a hero or not

[tranquil crane]

I usually go by TS ranking unless its super close then I actually look at heroes and tree

theoretically someone could focus LC to the detriment of their TS scores but I'm probably literally the only person in R45 doing that lol

[dusk tundra]

i just look at who has bigger numbers

[native sundial]

Is there any use of Geralt on pvp ?

[tranquil crane]

I choose TREE(4), lmk if anyone chooses something bigger

[lime zinc]

If you have him well invested for some reason, he works for late team dim splits

[gaunt marten]

Ice season late team dim splits also saw him pop up in smog

[native sundial]

Any overall use worth investing on him ?

[gilded salmon]

not at your level

[lime zinc]

Only if you're a whale that's got all the other things they need

[native sundial]

I see

[gaunt marten]

I wouldn't rn especially bc you're f2p

[lime zinc]

I've also seen him used with AwBaden burst in KT lmoa

[native sundial]

Any thoughts here ? I only got 3f on Abel

Maybe 9f merlin and 3f mulan ? Or save for Abel ?

[gaunt marten]

Any thoughts on what I'm confused furn wl looks fine

[gilded salmon]

card use I'm guessing

[gaunt marten]

Could card anasta bc she doesn't do shit before 9f

She's good support in ts at 9f

[lime zinc]

Either Anasta or Palmer ig

[gilded salmon]

I was gonna say anasta but she's not built at all while merlin and palmer already are

[native sundial]

Anasta is t3 gear si20 …

[lime zinc]

There's a bunch of things there that need 9F anyway

[native sundial]

I can e60 her right now but i save for abel

Does Anasta need si30?

[gilded salmon]

she wants it

[native sundial]

Ough .. i can si30 her too i kinda can max her out now but i suppose she isnt prio

[gaunt marten]

Merlin probably better

Anasta wants it eventually

[worldly belfry]

mulan there until 9

[worldly belfry]

Dont e60 Abel, e44 is fine

[gilded salmon]

41

[native sundial]

I like seeing my awakes at red 😂

[gaunt marten]

It's bad if you're f2p

[native sundial]

Btw … after finishing Abel what u guys think i should go for … i was thinking for ABadrn

[gaunt marten]

Poor resource management

[gaunt marten]

Hold your cards