#treasure-scramble
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why are you using estrilda backline without si30 
hmm i will try mine teams now and if they dont work i will try yours
Take it with a grain of salt, but I found Talismane helped aThane's win-rate a lot when I was flipping through pets on his comp last season - probably because it makes the position 1 support much tankier and the blind helps him too as most of his comp is very dodge-reliant - but I was also going with Position 1 Salami which is unusual.
And then I tried to switch between it and the new moth, and the Talismane was more of a boost, but both were level 6 and it's still early in the season so not the best test.
talis 6 is meh
@storm moth I am by no means a PVP master or formation expert. A lot of my investment was into PV E, and it pretty poor in my opinion but it is hard to find formations on this discord that aren’t super juice so I figured I’d share.
also I think it is better with wutus because of the ult grouping enemies
Idk, I thought I made a mistake, went in to edit, estrilda is frontline.

Right - I've been going with Winged Lion wutus personally, but the stats on Talismane are definitely good for him.
cool ty
gonna try 9 moth next for science 
Good luck. 🙏
yeah tyvm 
It's not the first time your teams change on their own... It must be a hacker
I want to try Moth with Burst - but I need to finish building Zaph and get furniture for everyone so it'll be ages before I can try. As everyone on Burst seems pretty auto-attack heavy with Vei and Zol and Audrae. 
@storm moth @quartz salmon Did you two get Master HoE? 
i did not 
yeah idk i could try
5 extra SG cards though. 
but im not looking into spending 500 more dias
Yeah, star baits are op, master is just meh
push push push, once you get to the last bracket, someone will knock you over into master
what baits?
i was at 12k


You get 120 baits when climbing star
Dirty double Aw haver 
oh from the regular reward thing

yeah
t93 sir

gz!
tbh idk how it ends up with t93 without awk
Yeah I got knocked twice or thrice but lots of people attacking quickly in that last bracket, you are bound to get lucky with one good defense

u master alr?
i gave up after 2 days of trying
also my tickets cost 30 rn

yeah
whane ez mode
ended up using like 15 tickets I think
I'll be
if you said no
Rip

did you buy tickets daily 
Improvements 


Still too early in the season to really have proper win-rates, but t39/r34 so far:
I'm trying to figure out athane team without palmer
Maybe I should give sal a try, mine's not as built though
Does Belinda work without Palmer?
Not nearly as well
It's hard without Palmer because he gives so much healing, buffing and energy.
HypoTeam is coooool! 👍
how dependent on 9f is balmer
No, next sg for me and smoku
No 
From what I can tell he’s good without it, better with it. Mine is 203e60 and is useful
danks
Mhmm, is yenn better than Mortas?
Can't see many running yenn on my fights list, but, I'm not rlly happy with Mortas 



That team is op
Region 37, 51st
Team 1 hits different 
TS doesn't make it easy to reorder teams, that's actually 3rd team, ofc
It's very experimental right now. I'll shuffle a few things around for next leg, before entering 4 teams
Ezio 2009 > or < Melusina 20303?
Melusina is really bad
K
So should I replace talene & athalia for C&R & Veithael ?
About the dimensional
If someone have better formations plz share
CRuke Orthos Athalia Solise Mortas
new voyage of wonders rewards is 10 gazer pulls. soo nice
Are these good starting formations?
iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidk if i should pull for WADEN or wait for next awk
are you in TS t100 already?
im like top 90-1%
how many tots?
250 😂
save
When the current Awakened's ship leaves, the new awakened comes - more or less.
saving cards feels so stupid when they release 5 awk heroes while you can pull for 1
no
so like a month?
also why did u start late
250 wont give u anything
but yeah the idea is stupid if you hodl 600 cards
I got 100
would be hapy with 250
raku what did u place in hoe
I'm at 250 also
Gonna start pulling once the next woke is out and we see how strong they are
yeah you're saving your rng for tot of course
Thoughts on this lineup?
scarlet in alna gb?
scarlet is ass this debuff iirc
just put ferael in there and silas in middle
This is what I’ve been running but I feel team 3 needs help
i mean ur daimon is stacked so u can try luc alna cycle in 3rd
Yeah that’s a good idea. I just feel like Fareal Mortas and raku are really strong this buff
1st team no alna put fera ur choice to reomve scar or not tho id remove her, fera is carry this debuff
3rd team u run luc cycle or scar cycle with alna n solise
This or would you swap mortas with Rowan, personally I want to do mortas
do rowan
rowan pretty sure
annd twins for ezizh
how fat is your palmer
+20
Idk im doubting that team
its good
put solise in dims or gbs instead of ferael
@frozen crestis that not fat enough for dims
Is veithael good this cycle? Can’t imagine so
yes
209e44 whale palmer 🐳
I am fucked every single debuff, sometimes I am in t100, sometimes I am not
yh same i just get fucked every debuff when u need alot of teams
now i got astar tho so maybe i can stay in t100 next debuff 
yeah my astar is 2f and I am so tempted to card her to t3.. but also so many other heroes are underinvested
she doesnt do mcuh shit this debuff so no rush
@frozen crest do you regret the abrutus?
wutus for sure
my wutus is 303e60 and it might be worth to get ansta 9f first since I can run a good wutus invade from that point on
is ur anasta e60
Anasta 9f is better than abrutus 9f 100%
my anasta is e0 but I already prepare to t4 gear her and she is my next e44 target after palmer
nope
ty
wutus 9f deals a lot of dmg while anasta 9f gives team survivability
tough choice
Who are you getting now? Or saving
i went solise but seems like a bad choice
both waden and wanda seem nice for cr
so this debuff anasta 9f would be better but next two wutus 9f?
no comment
I went with solise and I think she’s a solid choice. She’s also pretty immune to meta changes meaning I don’t think she’ll ever fall off
it seems that rn it is best to go for whane/wutus for PvP and waden/abel for bossing/CR
Wanda like the fairy odd parents?
swolise is solid but meta can change everytime it is crazy
wutus feels like hes easily replacable
she's a support
Yeah but at the same time, does she carry the same impact as Belinda or Baden in CR or Thane and Brutus in TS? The modes she is amazing for like TR you can merc or Trift use one copy
Solise is like Bennett if you know Genshin, they’re never going anywhere
that‘s exactly why I think the new Awk hero guide is not really that good
I only played at the start of Genshin so I don't know anyone after like Venti or Diluc
It even counts in M heroes so people think it is even good to go for M awk with limited tot card income
but yeah makes sense with no regard to mercing heroes
tho going for waden could be wrong in the future too
Will you friend me
Technically if you think about it, Thane has held up incredibly well in TS
I agree that Solise is more resistant to powercreep, but I'm not sure how good it is for new players not to prioritize TS which is their main income for time emblems. CR is off the table for them
the reason solise is at the top is because of her flexibility in all gamemodes. and the fact that she's a support means that it would potentially be harder for her to go away from meta compared to other woke heroes
Honestly, the thing is - in Genshin, supports who buff attack to the absurd amount that Bennett does just don't exist.
In AFK, supports powercreep supports - aSolise is great because she both heals and deals damage while buffing ATK/DR. But already there are heroes who buff more ATK and more overall offensively than she does, and while she's resistant to powercreep because she's a fantastic fill-in unit for a lot of comps, she won't be immune to it at the rate that things are going. She's likely stay around for longer than most, or until the game dies though if AFK2 releases.
also the woke guide has reasonings there
Seems like I'm not alone in my way of thinking here
At the same time I have a huge amount of respect for Arty as making a guide for awakened heroes is controversial and outermost difficult
I honestly think a problem with Solise is that while she does a lot, most of what she does is so numerical and flat. She doesn't do anything really unique that makes her fit a niche, she heals and deals damage and buffs ATK/DR so she's very good and fits into a lot, but she doesn't do anything really uniquely herself outside of how many buckets she reaches into and numbers keep going up.
What would you suggest instead?
I honestly just forgot about it
Thane is also susceptible to powercreep, arguably the most out of all of them. Yet he's the best for TS and he unlocks an entirely new team for you by using heroes you otherwise wouldn't have a place for
I don't understand. Where am I supposed to be looking?
Me neither, I chose him first and would do it again
Could be a good call, I haven't kept up too much with Belinda in TS tbh
I have Thane and Brutus and going Belinda next
is abel at the same level in pvp as waden?
Honestly not sure but someone used her at legendary rarity with amazing win rate
and you're complaining as to why you get 80% in ts
I think it was region 40 though
ah 
She's op in LCT
Still I have heard from Perp that she has revived cycle comp
Waden might be better for temporal; it’s hard to use thane, Brutus, and Belinda
Temporal...
I think waden is the weakest in temporal because hes slower than thane, brutus & solise at killing enemies
You can use him a lot at L rarity if you have him
anything that makes temporal easier is appreciated lol
I’m lazy but I want the rewards
Appreciated, not sought after per se
I have Whane wutus and wolise rn so I'd rather go Abel > waden
She also works at E44 which is nice for a change

I also have 1 chest I have no clue what to do with
ye i got all super prios t4'd
Kren wants full T4
@storm moth gib 6k poe
Eh, doesn't sound great since his benchmark is E4x iirc
do u guys t4 chestplates on int heroes?
I don't. Only did Scarlet and Ainz early on as a mistake
Astar hat and weapon, anasta full t4
👍
Palmer full t4?
Oh if you don't have him get him asap
I thought you had all the super prios...
ye not the newer heroes ig 🤫
like
I don't even know what to T4 tbh. I guess Desira maybe?
Missing E33 Hodg, E33 Queen, E44 Palmer, E30/E41 Astar, E30 Estrilda, E44 Anasta, E30 Rosaline

I feel like I'm the one who's done with the super prios here...
yeah maybe i got like 7 of those super prios t4'd
Will Rosaline's T4 hat help with charm comp?
is e33 hodg for trift?
or what
Queen and Hodge is for CR although I assume the insight will help pull off his terrify effect in rift as well
Twins beg to differ
Twins are more unique though.
They provide a stat link and give secondary stats that are rare - they have a niche that other heroes can't share. Same reason why you still see use out of Rosa. They're not just brought for flat stats and healing/damage.
cr 
@dusk tundra who do u think i should e30 next tho
im at 3500 shards
Palmer but you still need a star for him
Did you pick up a copy from misty valley?
Yenifer cause I like her
same
Might have been better to go for the palmer star tbh
isnt solise and nevanthi kinda crazy tho
My yen is 30936 no regerts
Maybe consider hcp:ing him as Palmer's probably the first HCP worthy unit in a while
Mine is 2x9E44
Haven't gotten around to si30 on yen yet
yeah ill be able to hcp both nevanthi and palmer to 1 star next reset
fuck stargazing since im hitting pity everytime anyways
😭
Depends on investment into Nevanthi. 9F for doubling the ATK/Haste boost and e60 for the ATK/Haste whenever a spirit dies. Otherwise, it's only 10% ATK/5 Haste and more healing/DR.
What stat besides haste?
Probably don't HCP nevanthi further yet unless you have enough for 9f and E60. Can keep at M +20
nevanthi e60 is gonna take like a year ngl
ATK/MP/HASTE/IS
Seems scuffed without E60 or at least furniture ready even with a Solise built
Imo it's a waste to hcp nevanthi for you rn. You should focus on Palmer 1 star and gaze
No, the last few rounds, I actually got t40+ I just had the wrong formations set up
i mean nevanthi is in my wishlist in furn and i can +30 her after some prios, unless palmer is higher in prio
Palmer is much higer prio
where do i even use him in pvp
Everywhere, in Ainz comp for instance
yeah but is he much better than yen
aBelinda/Cycle or Thane or Ainz/Dims are pretty common.
With Solise would also work I'm sure
i got yen for pvp in ainz alrdy
Either way as I said, if you don't have furn and E60 insta ready Nevanthi won't gain much from going above M+20
My dims team is ass. I'm missing two of the best dims for pvp. Yen and Merlin
.
unless palmer is good in some solise f2p friendly comp
But, my question still never got answered, if I shouldn't use these terms for starting out, what teams do I want instead?
If you're unsure E30 Estrilda would be a decent boost to your Scarlet burst comp or Yen E3X if you relink her will likely boost Ainz comp WR a bit
ye in terms of engraving those are my next prios
Or save for Anasta or Astar as those unlock more teams for you. Both are good in CR and TS
Only thing you can change is grez for Lucretia but it is debatable which is better
Remove Lucretia replace with Grez, he's good in freeze. Try Geralt over Mortas if you have bad WR with dims
Lucretia is not so good in freeze
I was told that they aren't good starting formations and that I need to change something. I just wasn't told what though
I don't know what my win rate is rn. My round hasn't started yet
raku moment
We had a round to test what was your winrate then?
Yesterday
We did? I didn't notice
You don't happen to have a Palmer M+20 or Athalia M+30 hiding somewhere?
You must have missed it then
No. Athalia will be way later. Still need to get higher priorities like Merlin, 1* twins, 1* Haelus and Zolrath
not really, just trying to build heroes that are good everywhere at this point
i feel like old man would have the highest e3x/4x atthat point
maybe kren before for maulers if your mauler tower is dead
but eh
i was thinking estrilda for ts and tr
welp your call
hmuch better do u think palmer is than yen at same investment in ainz
if hes even better lol
🧌

Palmer is pretty good
palmer is like right below awakened tier


I was using Palmer to solo path tiles in HoE day 1
pets carry

ty
I haven't noticed a huge difference between 309e60 palmer and 209e44 palmer
It's like...maybe 10% difference?
Again, not a fact, that's just based on what I've seen
Palmer's +30 sucks and his e60 is fairly weak but if you're 5*, the extra mp is decent
Suggestions for team 1?
Anasta isn’t doing anything. Maybe someone who heals
Going to give this a try
nice ainz dawg
what's a fast way to get 1 gold emblem 
Check chests
50% rerolling shop for 20 Gold emblems and a ??? chance when doing a chest collect - depending on which costs you less diamonds I guess.
You're wrong
Or just buy noble pass 
Anasta does something in ice
maybe I should wait for it to come through afk 
Mostly in brutus comp
no sir I have self control 
Who you upgrading?
waden

Mine still 5f 

Filthy Abaden havers.

Maybe I should try to take Baeden off the wl and put him back on 
might work
Filthy only until you need to merc 😉
Mike is 4f

Mine* 
Mike new hero? 

Without 9f and e60?
If you don't have those then you're p in easier region

C’mon Z…
You know I knows Anasta is useful
That person I said it to didn’t have furn or engraving
I have 4 extra copies of haelus from purple stones and scrolls; should I take him to 3*?
Not worth for MR
is there a reason not to? 
If you got free copies lying around then sure, star him but not worth gazing stars

Edge case where Haelus and Raine used together and somehow Haelus CBR becomes higher than carry? Very very unlikely…
Then he needs to engrave them and furn them

@opal bone 
Seems like Jingles has been affected by MSI, also known as massive skill issue syndrome


I am trying stuff out, noob 
Ayyyyyyyy congrats

I'm 3%ish on my other account
i dont expect to stay that high but nice to see lol
nub

I believe that it will suck, I hardly can find any comp to work well, other than Brutus, Thane, ainz
well for you it might suck but myu is in free region soo

Move to new region
Slap ainzm get ez t100

Random bs + ainz = gourmet sht for new region ts
Random bs + ainz = gourmet sht for new region ts
I wish I could move
Random bs + ainz = gourmet sht for new region ts
Important things we should say 3 times
@storm moth show t4 please
its just lucy alna cycle 
I remember that team being ass

which is better
In your alna luc
how
Alna luc gb
no 
Why tf you have energy generating hero
Just slap oden desira
Keep ezizh
What is rowan twins gonna do there
Think




Can you criticise my teams 
Hodg front seems scary
Ogey

Try to switch nev and silas

It's better than twins rowan
Those 2 won't get to ult
While oden adds damage and cc
Does Wolise m do anything without ult ? 
Slime girls 
I have her in athane
Orthos it's cool with Thane
Alright I’ll put her in luc Alna I think


Cause that's belinda
Scroll up
Day 1 comps %
That's abelinda comp in ice ts
Ever wonder why there's no alna in cycle?

is there a guide for teams?
Go in leaderboard and copy people
oh i see
Damn
That comp makes abelinda ult once the defense up expired
Ic

Grez op
what teams could I make 😃
or is treasure scramble more of a late game thing 😭



weird knowledge added
Dit you t4 Mortas for dodge? 
@indigo quail will helptrust

f autocorrect
Try Nami Lucius combo 

lucius team sus
madao sus
Agreed, dude be whaling on dem awakens like the world is ending
We not far of it 
I advice you to re-read the beginner guides in #faq-resources . you ascended a bunch of questionable choices that are not good for overall progression and we can't really help making good teams with it
Advice me pls


sir
Im still a student
ye I did like 2 weeks ago
I forgot to put my disclaimer that my account is dookie buns

btw I have part-time job but its Sat
I advice you to re-read the beginner guides in #faq-resources . you ascended a bunch of questionable choices that are not good for overall progression and we can't really help making good teams with it
then stop ascending heroes like nemora, brutus, saurus or shem and leave them (forever) at m
yeah ik
those have been m for awhile now
ah okay haha. use your campaign teams for TS first since it is hard to make good teams early on
👍 that was my plan so far
if you see some teams having really low winrates show us and we can try to correct
oki ty
I advice you to give me 6k poe
Me meme all day when no sleep enough 
gib teams sir
also, would it be smart to use my swap scroll to give the M from shamira to someone like raku? that way I could get him to asc

Raku is a hero that won't work until his SI is 30. Also swapping with just M is kinda waste. I would think of swapping your lucius with anyone but most people are not a fan of using it with too less investments. But you could ask around tho
wat
Reds
so many m+ 😭
what do you think of swap scrolling lucius? It would speed up chiefvs early game really badly I guess
lv200 fans
with who
It is an alt account for fun haha
with who
My suggest is 
I would say a Wilder cause chief spread up all wilder fodder already that a good wilder doesn't seem in reach
Lyca A is good just no prio and nemora + saurus M hurts
so yeah either raku or mishka
idk maybe 
how many f do you have for mishka? and how many raku copies
don’t think i’ve gotten any f for mishka yet and 3 raku copies but I can get a 4th next time I have enough diamonds

I would swap lucius with Mishka, but as I said better ask smart people like @lapis moth, too
Raku is perfectly fine at Mythic
same idea with myu
swap with 
5p just op regardless 
tbh you haven't made much progress anyway
do yourself a favor and take like 20 minutes to read the faqs
Use it as ur alt
and restart in a new server
can you trash merc 3 heroes from me so I can get 30 friendship points?
my alt won't be ready to merc this week sadly
why
stage 6-40 is kinda hard in 2 days with no good pull yet

ask in #lineup-help 

thas what i’m doing
my new acc already has more copies of daimon than I did 2 weeks ago on that acc 
forgot to change 4 teams 
Nub
Chapter 10 in on day
16 in two
i didnt login on my alt yet
so that means
that i got bored already

how
Wutus

I haven’t created it yet 
38 faction scrolls and 6000~ diamonds (hcp) didn't get me a single palmer 😭
just barely under 6k diamonds so must be close to pity
Next HCP is guaranteed Palmer dw, hang in there
M is already nice
now i see him everywhere
He is godlike
why'd you take faction scrolls 
Hmm for campaign there is no one that equals Brutus
3 days ch18
idk was i not supposed to

You can get to chapter 16 with pet + wutus + rowan
3 vs 5 
Then I got wutus and 2x waden

truu, only 4f i really care about atm is palmer though so more focused lb pulls
what floor is you

get to work

can someone suggest some better teams for t1 and t3 - my mishka and thoran are both A now
done
@lilac bobcat at rank 85 what can I do in ainz team or just not enough investment in ezio and the rest
merlin where sir
ty 
I’m thinking I drop yen for mer
I’ll wait for my offical ts team directors input tho
ofc sir
yen without e30 is meh
I could just e30 lol
then drop ezio
Ice debuff favorite debuff
Just need more invest like 9f ezio idk if you can afford it tho
It gives ezio 500 energy at start
I don’t even have 1F for him he’s on wl
As for dim emblems I’m saving those for joa 30
At 150
Joan is fine 209 something. Si30 is just additional dr
Ye I wanna 30 her tho as I don’t have anyone else on dims to 30 and with dr. Will help in my ts but mainly in my tr scarlet kills my skreg and mishka to much
I saw veith is really good at e+ for CR so is it alright to get him to e+ before doing twins?
or is a built haelus/twins way more important
in 1 round iirc?
that would give u 95% instead of 100%
r3. r1 is waden
no diff in rewards
veith is main dps in r3 at e+
u can run raku or anasta
dont have to run the old f2p variant
okok


r5 main dps
Madao hit Cr so I can copy
tomorrow when guide comes 

you can copy evo if you want



everyone stupid maybe 
why not run BIS in r4
Isn't that guide like over a month old?
CR meta changes all the time

Waiting for guide
35
Cr region

Different
29


show
Find
lazy
Me more
cool
sCRumble
Subs?
saurus M300 good?
Min 303
yes it works
160 more reds and I can si30 him 
think I used joan instead before I had him

people call me TheLegends27th
Is it cuz my hodge is 000?
o yeah I think hodge needs 9f here

also, sir, why are you leveling fire fatty 
Cuz I'm going for reso 12

I see
use polar
For r1?
yes
@twilit gulch try skreg?


I feel like it is senseless to even build for CR from R40 on 
should I just build heavy TS focus instead?
You can try and spilt CR rewards well.
slightly move on CR, focus on TS
I am building hero’s that are big in both. Like Cele chad
I think Saurus is currently only used in CR but I just woke up so not sure.
tr too 🙂
What TR is he still used in?
the one right now, at least at my rc
u r in low floor
dark nemora
people run wolise palm silas est twins in my floor
Not for me

What u use r2 if u use owl r1
saurus used in occasional bossing too, events/gh etc
what makes him a prio though is that he can't be replaced most times
I will DM my entire line up. Managed to hit 19.6 bil. Best I could manage after trying a lot of different stuff.

Polar doesn't work 


will you not be able to hit tomorrow
@twilit gulch check DMs

oh wow evo did pretty well without hodge 9f
Don't rly care
Nice Numisu 
another variant

Numisu can be used in R5
Ham can be used in sandwiches.
But should it?
yeah probably depends if you're using it or not
Nev OP, this round used to be hell rng, now it's a piece of cake 
Sir this is cr channel
I want to invest in nev already 
No, now it's a pushing campaign channel 
#discord-suggestions message
upvote pls
You sure you want that? 
already got one 
I totally forgot about gb tower and realized I'm at 469
@lapis moth
I'm at 250 I just want my time cards from it already 
- Don’t wanna push
thanks lol just trying some complain start 
How many floors in between the tc quests in towers btw?
20
sad
What floor are you 
In gbs
482
Wow
waden power 
idk
Like pushing 2 floors every weeks with 4036e100 zol 
will check when this cheese is cleared
Alright
same
660
🤡
Ye me too
Are you Jacob?
just use 3 awks duh
Let me try it 
anoki and 2 healers 
Halp wat to do with gbs 
Alna is fine
or raku for oden cc
ty
Anasta should be good too



Dunno, I am not the guy who you should ask about pets, don't even have reso 6 





Also here's my 4th
I put daimon in gbs
Depends on what the team needs tbh


