treasure-scramble

[restive goblet]

alna would be better but she has no furn yet so idk

[dreamy relic]

Like this? And I should start getting a higher rank?

[dreamy relic]

Yeah working on that

[restive goblet]

gonna try hendrik next

[dusk tundra]

Should be way better than 5-pull but you never know with this debuff

[dusk tundra]

Try Daimon over A!Brutus too just to see if it improves at all, like Henry said

[dusk tundra]

You have to get 9/9 and E60 on your Mishka that's very important. Probably focus cores everywhere in chests + events etc

[dreamy relic]

Alright

[dreamy relic]

Including current exchange event? Take cores?

[dusk tundra]

Yes your current focus will be all in on cores, getting Mishka E60 > Scarlet E66 > Oden E60. Furniture on Alna is very high prio, use cards on her. Reset store twice a day for Poe, use fast rewards 50,80,100,100 every day, get Poe from Twisted Bounties. Get 9/9 Scarlet, Mishka, Oden, Silas too

[dreamy relic]

I'll write this down actually, thanks

[dusk tundra]

Yes we can start fixing your account step by step. These are the major improvements you need that I can see currently

[dreamy relic]

Something like this?

Should I be buying 400 poe for 360 gems btw before resetting

[frozen crest]

nope

[dreamy relic]

Oh alright

[dusk tundra]

Yes that looks good, you could engrave LDV to E36 (Haste + Insight) right now if you have the resources. It will be a while until you can afford 4500 cores for Mishka and she wants her 9/9 at the same time. She's E60 ability or bust.

SI looks good but if you get 9/9 on Alna, get her before Thoran (save up 300 and don't use them just in case)

Furn looks good but you're missing Merlin, his 9 is above Oden I'd say; it makes him much more reliable. Astar 9 can also be put on but lower prio

[dusk tundra]

Yeah don't buy for diamonds in the store; just use gold

[dreamy relic]

Damn alright, thanks dude

Another thing I'm usually like gold in TR or CR which is why I can't get many poe

[frozen crest]

merc scarlet since your scar aint strong enough for TR

[dusk tundra]

I see, well important investment for CR is LDV E36, Queen E33 and Hodgkin E33. Always merc the strongest carry for whatever you need be it A!Solise, A!Baden or Scarlet E66 5 stars

[dreamy relic]

Merc her at 309?

[frozen crest]

3096x

[sacred notch]

Merc whatever the strongest Scarlett on ur fl is

[frozen crest]

yours is 3004x

9f is a big difference in damage

[dreamy relic]

6x is what?

[frozen crest]

60 plus

saw that the strongest scarlet in your merc list earlier was red stars scarlet

so ye, merc those

[dreamy relic]

Did that yeah, highest one available is e60

[dusk tundra]

Also I noticed just now that your Skriath doesn't have 3 furniture yet so 5-pull doesn't even work. That's the number 1 goal, get his furn for your Lucretia 5-pull

[polar dune]

good start

[dreamy relic]

Yep I just need 1 more

Done

Thanks, so I will be mostly using her for TR?

[sacred notch]

Just copy your leaderboard top placements

[dusk tundra]

Yup, also I think you'd get a better score in CR if you borrowed my A!Brutus unless you have a better merc for CR

[dreamy relic]

Which one should I care more about tho TR or CR

[dreamy relic]

From what ranks? Legend or like diamond 1

[dusk tundra]

TR requires less effort as you only need to worry about 1 formation. You gain more from CR so it's more important.

You should definitely join a discord server if you haven't already for CR formations.

[sacred notch]

1st

[dreamy relic]

Well this is the number 1 guy

[dreamy relic]

I see

[dusk tundra]

I sent you an invite to cursed friends, it's quite easy to navigate

[sacred notch]

Can prob sub in like Cecilia or hodge for wolise, then ur off

Make sure to keep in mind the manual timings for this boss

[lilac bobcat]

[dusk tundra]

01:11, Twins, Scarlet, Hodgkins 01:01, Twins, Scarlet 0:50 Auto is the timing iirc

[lilac bobcat]

Mythic vei and 203 balmer

[dreamy relic]

Where did you send it?

[lilac bobcat]

1:15-10 twins asolise

1:00 twins warek scarlet

Everyone get full energy. Full auto

[dusk tundra]

Your dms

[dreamy relic]

👍

[restive goblet]

[frozen crest]

[sacred notch]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-kinda-my-thing-nico-the-expanding-universe-of-ashley-garcia-thats-sorta-my-thing-thats-what-im-know-for-gif-19241108

[lapis moth]

tf is this from 50 fights or 1 ?

[frozen crest]

only 15

still yet to get a 100% from 50 matches

would be lit

[trail swift]

it’s a fail

think this will do better or worse?

[reef axle]

you guys going for 100% win rate, meanwhile my teams (the second one is random bs go lmao, don’t understand ainz):

I just got here

[celest canyon]

Currently at rank 10%, any adjustments needed?

[trail swift]

twins or haelus gaze first for TS focus ?

[dense lava]

Neither are good for TS.

Twins for 90% of the rest of the game though.

[trail swift]

twins are in cycle tho

[dense lava]

Ever seen Cycle have a high win rate?

[trail swift]

mine is 54% 😳

[molten sparrow]

How are my formations?

[wide wasp]

@storm moth

[dense lava]

I guess it might work at lower ranks. For top 100, Cycle is awful. 20% on a good day.

[wide wasp]

Tems pliz t5+

[trail swift]

that bottom team is really shit this debuff i noticed, also raine without 3f might not serve much purpose. still good support tho ig

[molten sparrow]

What should I run instead?

[trail swift]

i did what someone else was doing and pulled alna from alna gb and made lucy+alna cycle, then used grez/daimon for gb

i just copy people so idk wait for better advice

surprised my gb is still doing well without alna tho

[molten sparrow]

I was told that Lucreita cycle was bad and that I shouldn't run it

[trail swift]

it generally is but this debuff and adding alna it's doing pretty well.. for my standards anyway

[molten sparrow]

Maybe I should wait and see what someone else says (no offense)

[trail swift]

yeh

[frozen crest]

thane gb ainz cycle and ldv/scar

[wide wasp]

No ldv

[frozen crest]

alna luc cycle is especially nice in this debuff for newer regions for some reason

despite sounding contradictory

[wide wasp]

Yenn for ldv?

[frozen crest]

perhaps

tho yen on ainz seem to be better than mortas(no idea tho) might be bad to take it away

[molten sparrow]

But I'm not in a newer region, I'm in 30

[wide wasp]

Who else with yen scar?

[frozen crest]

what

[wide wasp]

Tem 5 what heroes must be in?

@storm moth plez

Will this work

[weary tendon]

Can I somehow arrange the heroes better? Right now I'm at 98 Rank so pretty pleased

[storm moth]

could work but ldv raku bad this debuff

[opal bone]

I log onto AFK for the first time today.

See rank 44th, rejoyce.

Then 30 min later after dailies 67th

[gaunt marten]

100% wr impossible and in top bracket wr doesnt matter

wr in top 20 can look really weird

[gaunt marten]

ice debuff mood

i had 4 teams all doing kinda meh to good finished 13th, changed it, had 3 teams doing great and last team 0% i am 11th now

the fuck

how does that even make sense

[frozen crest]

t33
considering how gbs is so good im not gonna bother phasing out brotus, prolly wont do scar over raku too

[opal bone]

I don't understand how in Raku's region his GBs always get this massive wr

Literally one region below and he's usually around top 50 player pool for opponents.

[frozen crest]

cuz brotus there

[opal bone]

Even w/o him

Your GBs always massive wr compared to mine

With lower invest

[reef axle]

rip, would be cool to see that for a while though

[gaunt marten]

ive gotten 100% all the time its just the first day or two

after that you settle in

[reef axle]

also, can someone tell me why my win rate is climbing over time? how does scramble work? (am I just falling and dealing with other random bs go teams)

[gaunt marten]

rank matters

whats your rank

wr only matters if your rank is changing

[frozen crest]

sometimes less is better

[reef axle]

rookie div, not sure how to see my rank lol

[gaunt marten]

hit leaderboard

[reef axle]

probably unranked because I just got here in time for the first scramble on day 4

[gaunt marten]

also says rank at banner

[reef axle]

yeah unranked for now

[gaunt marten]

like event banner

[reef axle]

oh

wait it is like 100% (truly very good)

not is joke

[gaunt marten]

thats lowest

100% is not good

but thats expected bc you just started

[opal bone]

Mmhmm

[frozen crest]

how does the 4th team look like

[reef axle]

yeah should probably try to fix my teams

[gaunt marten]

anyone got a decent lucy comp for this debuff

i cant get abrutus to fucking work without hard scuffing other comps

and its not worth it

im just shelving abrutus until later

[granite mason]

lucy cycle with alna or dont use lucy

[gaunt marten]

im looking for something with wr better than 0

bar is on the floor

[wide wasp]

Any changes u would make? Maybe put scar in there

[dusk tundra]

At 4 teams now and Raku comp is giving disappointing results

Gonna switch to Lucy Alna I guess

[lapis moth]

one region above and same

I think his region has less whales

[frozen crest]

my region has the fair share of whales

[lapis moth]

[opal bone]

Ours has unfair share of whales

[twilit gulch]

My region got madao

So it's pretty whaley

[lapis moth]

[granite mason]

[trail swift]

my server has a global top10 whale :q

i don't think it'll last but i'm at my highest rank so far, 2%

[frozen crest]

same here

[quartz salmon]

Doesn’t work with budget twins and Ezizh

I got 32% with that

Dropped from t5x to t99

[granite mason]

well 32% is decent

[quartz salmon]

For my region it’s ok ish ig

[granite mason]

its for team 7 tho, lucy isnt strong this debuff

[quartz salmon]

Just for comparison my full gb team has 66%

Oden not even e60

Yeah I need to change that team

But scarlet burst also suck si idk what to use

[granite mason]

maybe you can try scarlet cycle( dont think its much better )

[frozen crest]

yeah just experiment

wont hurt

[quartz salmon]

Lol I doubt that would work haha

[frozen crest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/776341745134862346.gif?size=48

[frozen crest]

in theory it could

[quartz salmon]

Im t99 I cant experiment rn

Too close to the edge

[frozen crest]

btw how do u perform

[frozen crest]

you jump and then you fly

[granite mason]

im retired

[quartz salmon]

I mean yeah but I would think burst is better no?

[granite mason]

[frozen crest]

i refuse to believe that

[lapis moth]

yeah lies

[granite mason]

stay here cuz @indigo quail and @dapper lance still playing tho

[lapis moth]

gib your abaden

[frozen crest]

i have this weird feeling

[lapis moth]

I know you are hiding one

[frozen crest]

that he's actually some chapter 52 player of some sort

[granite mason]

i wish

[frozen crest]

from last season

[lilac bobcat]

Burst is ass

[frozen crest]

considerably worse

[lilac bobcat]

And so is scarlet cycle

[frozen crest]

how bad is scar cycle?

havent seen a result yet

[lilac bobcat]

In this debuff?

[frozen crest]

yeah

[lilac bobcat]

Idk I will use it on 6 teams

Cause it's p bad

[frozen crest]

ic, so luc's literally not used anywhere

[lilac bobcat]

Luc alna

[frozen crest]

this debuff, isnt grez better

or separate comps

[lilac bobcat]

Other than that. She's meh

My grez is in abrutus

Solid comp

So my luc is in alna

[frozen crest]

can i see?

[lilac bobcat]

This is the brutus comp

So I have nothing for alna

I slap luc there

[frozen crest]

who backlines there

some random goon

[lilac bobcat]

I have nev for healing athalia and oden

[quartz salmon]

Im using this

[frozen crest]

ohh

so sort of like a baden comp

[lilac bobcat]

Yep

[frozen crest]

cool, thx

[lilac bobcat]

But without yennefer at pos4

Cause I like to use yen at pos4

On that comp

[frozen crest]

let me try experimenting it at 5 teams

after 1st reward

[lilac bobcat]

I experiment before the reward

[frozen crest]

too scary

[lilac bobcat]

Mythic+ vei and 203 palmer

[brave sentinel]

Who's a good 5th?

[granite mason]

ldv but this energy reduction sucks for ldv

[frozen crest]

bruh i cant read

[granite mason]

lmao

[opal bone]

Lyca

[misty epoch]

Time to drop to 1%

Decided to use Lorsan, forgot you can't have shields this round

[lilac bobcat]

Clown game mode fr

[lapis moth]

nice arthur e80

[trail swift]

should i t4 scarlet's last piece (body) for TS or just save it

seems bready insignificant upgrade

[storm moth]

im down to 2%

[frozen crest]

imo if it helps getting scarlet's CBR higher than mishka's to get raine buff then yes

[trail swift]

oh damn

mishka 9395k scarlet 9319k

but mishka is only 1 piece t4 so she'll still overtake her

when i upgrade her

how do people usually get around that

[storm moth]

yeah i give up on this debuff

[frozen crest]

manipulate artifacts

and possibly engrave scarlet

[trail swift]

ahh right, e38 vs e60

[frozen crest]

there was a time where i had to deliberately remove mishka's gear and give her weaker ones

or you would otherwise use someone instead of raine

[trail swift]

maybe after abrutus e60 i'll take scarlet up to e65/6/7/whatever

or just 60

[frozen crest]

60 kinda meh if u dont have 4/5 stars for haste

60+ is pretty expensive

[trail swift]

2 stars atm but by then probably more

[frozen crest]

probably

[storm moth]

mine is 3* e60

[frozen crest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/840297676892405770.gif?size=80&quality=lossless

[trail swift]

@frozen crest what do you think about e38 vs e44 scarlet? for the two minor IS nodes. it'd buy me some time on the mishka/scarlet issue

[storm moth]

i did that

[frozen crest]

pretty nice node

[storm moth]

also if i dont get 1% at 1st rewards im not gonna change teams

fuck this debuff

[frozen crest]

yeah this debuff is not fun

other debuffs make some teams good and some teams bad

this debuff straight up nerfed everyone

pepega

[icy surge]

Why it's any debuff needed, only lilith knows

What's the point of building the good heroes, if turns out that they suck then

[trail swift]

makes you need a bigger hero pool to compete = $$$

[icy surge]

Eh, there's hidden stats, I mean they are nerfing certain heroes with their debuffs, just to make fun of their players

Once you interact with the game in this way, who stop you to make it how ever you want for a better income

[trail swift]

yeah but your win% is going down because other peoples are going up 😛 it's not like it's just hurting evryone. it's beneficial to those with more niche heroes

[icy surge]

X hero can hit 50%less dmg just bcs lilith wants so

[storm moth]

ts without debuff would be nice

i agree

[gaunt marten]

That's just lc

[granite mason]

nope

its too much p2w

[storm moth]

i mean it still would be regional

[granite mason]

then you just build like 20 heroes only and get rewards from it

ez

[storm moth]

smh

[granite mason]

just copy older regions for comp, and build around that

[storm moth]

complain strat op

[granite mason]

wtf

whale

[storm moth]

ym

[storm moth]

@civic sage should i use my budget neva

somewhere

maybe in scarlet

for lyca

[civic sage]

idk about budget Neva

I started using her when she was 203

[storm moth]

so i could use sth like this

maybe swap lyca and raine

[granite mason]

bet scarlet wr <30%

[storm moth]

yeah 100%

[lapis moth]

[storm moth]

but its still better than 10

[lapis moth]

Use jingles comp

Raku with scarlet works surprisingly well

[storm moth]

this yeah?

@opal bone what wr on that scarlet comp

[flat flume]

Try this

[storm moth]

no balmer

also use scarlet p4 ples

[granite mason]

why balmer p5

[flat flume]

Idk lol

How should they be

[granite mason]

normal is scarlet p4, but it works so it works, maybe

[lapis moth]

they all want p4

[flat flume]

Wanted Rowan middle

[lapis moth]

yep

[storm moth]

idk i still think out of these 3 scarlet is the best on p4

and maybe rowan front?

because i assume raine insta dies

[flat flume]

I will try

[storm moth]

90% of the time

[granite mason]

no

99% dr, how can raine insta dies

[storm moth]

whats dr

oh nvm

i know now

[granite mason]

this debuff ^

[storm moth]

yeah

but i still think that rowan front is better

[granite mason]

yeah

[flat flume]

Won. She def tank lolz

[storm moth]

[opal bone]

57 atm, usually lower

[storm moth]

oh nice

[lapis moth]

Whel

[storm moth]

then i might get top 100 at rewards

[opal bone]

Like very low 40s

[storm moth]

thats better than normal scarlet comp

at least i think it is

[lapis moth]

yes better

I tried subs for raku the last two rounds and it dropped quite a bit

[storm moth]

i want to use nivea

i built her for a reason smh

[lapis moth]

unbuild

and build palmer instead

[storm moth]

no

i will build balmer next

i just need to hcp 2 more neva for A

and 1* will come with time

[lapis moth]

do you have furns for her

[granite mason]

hcp balmer for avatar :palmerzeee

[storm moth]

perhaps

[lapis moth]

[storm moth]

it doesnt even move

i have 1

[lapis moth]

[granite mason]

he is old

[storm moth]

and im not gonna change my pfp wtf

[lapis moth]

no rush to hcp than

[storm moth]

i still want to finish her

[still heron]

It does

[storm moth]

[storm moth]

barely

[still heron]

Hes fücking 120

[granite mason]

do you want him to move like that cat in the meme

[storm moth]

so what

[storm moth]

he should do this

[storm moth]

so should i finish neva or start on balmer

if neva is 1f

hcp

and M+

[still heron]

Finish both

[granite mason]

https://giphy.com/gifs/emote-catjam-jpbnoe3UIa8TU8LM13

[still heron]

Used Nevanthi in campaign for the first time

[civic sage]

@storm moth I finally escaped 2%

[gilded salmon]

I'm up to 60% Pog

But I think that's just cause I'm still on 3 teams lol

[storm moth]

i can just let neva come from normal summons

[storm moth]

i did today too

and got to top 100

[civic sage]

I need to fix my Team 3 but I’m 51th now somehow

[storm moth]

• i cant get her to si30 for a while @still heron

[lapis moth]

tf that mishka gbs wr

[obtuse mauve]

I sank to 2% in this debuff. I took to long to start Neva and palmer and I'm lacking heals now

[civic sage]

idek how it's that high, but non-Alna GBs seems to be the way

[misty epoch]

My Athane team at 36%

Mistakes were made

[civic sage]

Palmer OP

[obtuse mauve]

This debuff relies on heals a lot, because of no shields

[opal bone]

Some whales like this Anasta dude got 2 Aws, meanwhile waiting on my 1st.

[obtuse mauve]

Especially passive/non-ult heals

[lapis moth]

[civic sage]

[misty epoch]

Some f2p have even 2 awks now

[civic sage]

Yeah, I'm going to try JoA instead of Rowan, idek why I tried him

He just allows for one ult and then dies

[lapis moth]

He usually works well with scarlet

[obtuse mauve]

Yeah, he heals quickly, but it's mostly wasted in the high Dr phase

[lapis moth]

Just lthis debuff is the problem

[obtuse mauve]

30 points to top100, but unfortunately I don't know if I can do any better with my current roster

[still heron]

Eather way both are missing Investment

[storm moth]

btw should i even consider ldv raku at 7 teams?

[storm moth]

balmer works at 203

[civic sage]

Yeah, I got Wutus just in time otherwise idk what I would do

@storm moth why not just go Palmer first?

[storm moth]

because my neva already M+

and idk if i should switch

[civic sage]

How many copies from A

[storm moth]

3

[obtuse mauve]

Since my midterm rewards are borked already, I'm gonna try some crazy stuff for the last legs, like using nemora in team 4

[civic sage]

I think Palmer should be better for you if you can maintain t100 in TS since you have Whane, read what Bob says here
#temporal-rift message

[granite mason]

nemora 9f to counter alna

[civic sage]

Or just hope for t100 and do the best teams possible

[obtuse mauve]

Hm.. L-sawlise could work as a heal bot

[quartz salmon]

Palmer is higher prio than nev then?

I have 4 copies nev 1 Palmer

3f both

[lapis moth]

imo yea

[quartz salmon]

Hmm

HCP 7 copies gonna hurt

Does Palmer need engraving?

[civic sage]

Yes

[quartz salmon]

Ig e60 would be optimal but what about budget ?

[civic sage]

e30

[quartz salmon]

Nodes maybe

[lapis moth]

Especially if you have whane and do not have waden

[quartz salmon]

is for TS

[quartz salmon]

Ic

[quartz salmon]

Just the ability or nodes are useful?

[civic sage]

CDA is useful

not sure about any of the other stats

I've heard ATK/MP, but not sure for what purpose

[quartz salmon]

Ok thanks

My twins are M rn should I save for HCP or go A1 twins then get Palmer ?

[civic sage]

I would do Palmer now

But that's just my opinion, maybe get perspectives from other ppl

for me he's been incredibly useful, and see him used in TS with both Whane/Wutus so far as well as being amazing in other modes

[quartz salmon]

Alright cool

Thanks

[storm moth]

yeh i have read that

okey so i will start balmer

also @civic sage do you think its worth for me to switch to more of a cr focus

[civic sage]

Never

[storm moth]

whyyy

[civic sage]

I mean, from my experience you have to have Haelus/Twins at least to have a shot at gazer cards (M Twins minimum)

[storm moth]

i will have haelus

not that far from it

still pretty far but yk

[lapis moth]

[civic sage]

As well as all 4F investment necessary for that round

[lapis moth]

did you whel haelus

[storm moth]

no

my haelus is L +1 that why i said far but not that far

[lapis moth]

nice

[civic sage]

Oh that's a lot closer than I expected

[storm moth]

and im saving stuff for his engraving and stuff

[storm moth]

he would have been done probably

if it wasnt for balmer and neva

[lapis moth]

Just get them to M+

And leave them like that

[storm moth]

why

[lapis moth]

Cuz they still work

And you can work on haelus

[storm moth]

oh so i only need to hcp 2 balmer copies

pog

[lapis moth]

Let the other copies come naturally with the furniture

[storm moth]

smart

[opal bone]

The promised land is within reach.

[storm moth]

idk im doing good for some reason

[misty epoch]

The higher his base MP is, the more MP he grants to his allies

[storm moth]

just to drop at 5 teams

[opal bone]

Don't worry, you'll be out t100 tomorrow and I'll be at 75

[storm moth]

yeah ik

[opal bone]

Which path are you on btw

[storm moth]

middle

[civic sage]

which skill is that?

[opal bone]

is that green

Never go green

[misty epoch]

His ult

[opal bone]

Green is statistically most picked colour

And whales are basic bitches

[misty epoch]

Copium

[storm moth]

idk im not doing bad

[civic sage]

Oh I see, thx for the info. Do you have any idea why ATK might be suggested?

[storm moth]

also if that scarlet raku team works i might have a chance for top 100

[civic sage]

I remember Luster saying e68 Palmer and I assume those are the relevant nodes

[storm moth]

because he attac

[civic sage]

Fair point

[misty epoch]

My guess is because of his 3rd skill

Orison

[civic sage]

Makes sense

hopefully I can get away with e36 for now so I can e60 Anasta asap

[quartz salmon]

HCP just ruined me

2 palmers 21k diamonds

...

[twilit gulch]

What does palmer actually do

[civic sage]

[twilit gulch]

Buffs?

[civic sage]

Yes

[twilit gulch]

Does he heal

[quartz salmon]

Does Palmer M do stuff you think?

[civic sage]

He does everything

[twilit gulch]

[storm moth]

i mean raku used him in cr

so ig

[civic sage]

increases MP/PP, atk rating, CDA, healing etc

[storm moth]

and madao said that M is good enough for ts

[quartz salmon]

Oh interesting

[civic sage]

Yes

[opal bone]

Fake

There is 30 pity

so 2 copies 18k max

[quartz salmon]

I hit pity both times

[storm moth]

i mean he could have pit pity 2 times

[opal bone]

Sir that's still 18k max

[storm moth]

• 3k after 2 pity

jingles you dum dum

[opal bone]

Math hard for some people

[quartz salmon]

Yup mb that was 6 pulls not 7

[twilit gulch]

Just spend another 6k

[quartz salmon]

Still

Im crying

[storm moth]

9k + 9k (2 copies) + 3k (10/30 for pity)

[quartz salmon]

That was all my chests from wrizz and soren I saved up for 3 months

[twilit gulch]

[opal bone]

He got 2 copies, no matter what he did that's 2x 9k

At worst

[civic sage]

That is possible

[storm moth]

yeah and he said he got 2 copies

[quartz salmon]

Smoku is right

[civic sage]

[storm moth]

even 26700 is possible

[quartz salmon]

Anyways that was 6 pulls cause I have 15k in chests

[opal bone]

I assumed he needed 2 copies.

[quartz salmon]

And 3k on me already

[opal bone]

[quartz salmon]

I needed 7
6 counting chest

[opal bone]

Wording was faulty.

[storm moth]

just hcp him to M+

and work on celehypos

madao smart

[quartz salmon]

3f ready tho

[storm moth]

[opal bone]

You need his furn and e30

[quartz salmon]

3f meh?

[storm moth]

he still works at 200

[quartz salmon]

Ye true

[opal bone]

And cars still work on a 1% gas tank

You still want it as full as possible

[quartz salmon]

I’ll test him in ts at 200 for now

[storm moth]

[twilit gulch]

What's palmer min

[civic sage]

200

[storm moth]

303680 for you

[twilit gulch]

[crystal cloud]

Any tips for last teaM?

[storm moth]

20930 is optimal for f2poor

[twilit gulch]

Yep that's me

[storm moth]

lies

[twilit gulch]

Another 9f tho

[civic sage]

Maybe try smth like this

[storm moth]

everything needs 9f

[twilit gulch]

I don't have enough poe

[storm moth]

me neither

[civic sage]

idk how important Palmer is but he helps a decent amount with atk buffs

[twilit gulch]

E60 palmer or anasta

[crystal cloud]

Thanks and love instead palmer in last team?

[civic sage]

I would run Grezhul in Team 2 and take out Alna if you want to keep Wutus in GBs though

[civic sage]

Wait you only have 100 Anasta, probably ignore my team suggestion

Skreg also needs furn

[crystal cloud]

Okay any other tips then? For improving teams?

[civic sage]

I would take out Alna and put in Grezhul, that should get you a higher WR

also take out Anasta

Lyca could be an alright option to sub for Anasta

[quartz salmon]

Btw is exchange event like always? Juice and reds more worth than the rest?

[civic sage]

Yes

[quartz salmon]

65 for 20reds seems expensive

350 juice for 50

Ok I’ll get juice probably

[crystal cloud]

thanks ill try, alna not good this debuff? and tips for last team?

[civic sage]

Alna just isn't as impactful this debuff early on

later on you'd want to split Wutus out and put her back in though

Last team only thing I can think of is Lyca for Anasta, making Lyca +20 when possible

Other than that look at t100 in your region and try to steal comps that will work for you

[crystal cloud]

okay thanks

[restive goblet]

My Athane team still sucks

[opal bone]

All this discussion about "optimal f2p" is silly. Mfker that's one of the best supports in the whole game and he is 4F, just max him without going for the luxury top end.

He's going to be more useful than spreading yourself.

[restive goblet]

Does anybody have a thane team that’s doing well besides putting him in alna/GB?

Maybe just sticking Palmer in is enough

[wise lion]

@civic sage on our discussion ab engraved enemies, that makes it even harder to make a TS guide. who knows what rank u need to be in any given region b4 u start worrying ab TY?

[lapis moth]

he can still work at non optimal investment and for someone who is halfway through haelus and no palmer furns there is clearly no need to rush hcps

[opal bone]

Sure, but that's literally delaying Palmer for like the one support better than him in the game.

[civic sage]

I just mainly see from observation, but ig it's hard to tell concretely

[wise lion]

our regions are so diff tho, like we talked ab

[lapis moth]

again you can still use him at M si20 with good results

[wise lion]

and both of our observations are correct, for our regions

but clearly wrong if we applied it to each other's regions

[civic sage]

True, I just reap the benefits of being in a new region for TS so not really sure when TY becomes a major issue

from my observation t50 is like your 2% and t20 is when full engraving teams start to occur constantly

[wise lion]

right. imagine sticking that in a guide and every comment is like "wow what an idiot my enemies don't get TY until Rank X"

[civic sage]

Yeah, so many differences and you are punished heavily for wrong Awk choice too

[wise lion]

exactly. everyone knows the best choice is AEzizh

[civic sage]

Definitely didn't gaze 2lene

[opal bone]

Just get Aw in half the rates of other people so you don't get punished.

[civic sage]

That strategy is OP

[opal bone]

Idk what to do for 5th team.

Last time I just yolo'd ldv raku

Also think I might e30 Estrilda

[civic sage]

I'm probably going to run Scarlet

[restive goblet]

I’m either doing raku or I’m splitting out alna and doing alna luc cycle

[wise lion]

btw @civic sage I gotta ask, why Nev instead of Raine in Scar? I would have thought Scar's energy was the most important, and thus Raine's SI feeding Scar was the better move

or was the healing a significant enough factor?

[civic sage]

I'm considering LDV Raku since Mishka GBs is at 85% and I'm 43th rn

[civic sage]

idk I just tried it and it worked better tbh

[restive goblet]

I’m jumping around all over the place. I fell to 94 last night and then pushed up to 20th. I’m at like 55 right now

[civic sage]

I don't really think too hard about these things

[wise lion]

yesterday I fell from 2% to 6% in just 18 battles. this morning I was back at 2%

TS is fuckin weird man

[opal bone]

TS is a scam

[restive goblet]

Thane team is funny this season. It has like 100% win rate when my rank drops, but at some point it just falls off a cliff and it basically always loses

[mortal halo]

Is Veithael used in any comps of TS so far?

[storm moth]

probably in some whale shit

[restive goblet]

[molten sparrow]

How are these?

[wise lion]

most obvious place I've seen him is burst

[lapis moth]

#treasure-scramble message
starts to look like a solid investment for both ts and cr

[misty epoch]

Same dude, I always get single purp

[raven lark]

put alna in luc team

and run daimon or smth in gbs instead

and i think raku smth is better than scarlet burst this debuff

[mortal halo]

I don't have Thane, haha

I hope he can fit in other teams too

[civic sage]

Probably need to wait a bit longer for lower spenders to start gazing him to see creative teams using him

Vei doesn't really seem huge in the ss madao provided

[opal bone]

What more do you want than Burst and Athane?

[mortal halo]

What'd be the burst team though?

[opal bone]

Your usual zol, lyca, lorsan +2

He can just replace Audry in it

Who is not nearly as versatile as Vei is with other modes

He's probably going to be regarded as second Celestial people should gaze.

[civic sage]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[opal bone]

I meant 3rd after Haelus

Forgot about Alna, though I guess if you're Asta then 2nd is accurate

[civic sage]

There is no way he will be higher priority than Twins

[opal bone]

Idk, I think he might

If you just M twins

[misty epoch]

Eventually you will have to ascend Twins for survivability

[mortal halo]

I play mine with Zol Anasta Raku Leo Wolise - not sure if that'd be a place for Veithael

[opal bone]

Leofric?

[storm moth]

m twins kinda ass

at this point just get them to a1*

[cold ridge]

Better than E Twins

[storm moth]

[brave sentinel]

How am I supposed to tell when the next team will be added? If the current 4teams rotation is at 50 battles done, does that mean when scramble timer runs out the 5t will begin?

[civic sage]

Look at your points on Leaderboard

once you reach 4000 points it will be 5 teams

5000 points it will be 6 teams and so on

[brave sentinel]

I see. Thanks

[dusk tundra]

Wow, I'm having great results with alna cycle and A!Brutus in Graveborn!

[twilit gulch]

Been trying to figure out a 5th team but they all suck

Prob shouldn't run this

[dense lava]

No shields this debuff so Mishka is useless, and less energy gen so Scarlet and LDV can’t ult like you want them to.

[dusk tundra]

Idk if splitting A!Brutus and Graveborns up would be better than running Raku LDV. I didn't even get 20% iirc with raku LDV lol

[dusk tundra]

Interesting that you chose to put Joan in Athane, I might try that if Merlin's healing is enough

[solemn sage]

it's the highest winrate athane version I've found this debuff

[dusk tundra]

This is what I have currently but maybe I can replace Joan with Ezio and Silas with Talene or Desira

[dense lava]

17th

[solemn sage]

I'm gonna put mortas instead of asolise and do an asolise burst for 5th

[icy surge]

@dusk tundra ezio won't work better, I would rather try diff pets

[solemn sage]

Ezio is pretty similar winrate to joan in dims for me

and joan in athane is big improvement

I do have pretty big ezio though

[icy surge]

Like, engraved?

[solemn sage]

E36 and T4'd

[dusk tundra]

I have winged on A Thane, green on graveborn, white on Ainz, black on cycle

[dusk tundra]

What pets

[icy surge]

@dusk tundra I don't know what's the best, but on one acc of mines

96%

This one

[obtuse mauve]

I watched a fight where I faced an e80 Thawne. With 99% Dr, he took 80% of the health of a 309e30 Anasta, single hit

[icy surge]

Anasta suck, without e60

The rate it's double with e60

[obtuse mauve]

Maybe, but the damage output of e80 is scary

[dusk tundra]

Hmm, not sure if I will find the same success in my region but I will try

Also I am gonna put silas in my athane to see if it gets better

Can I put Haelus over Rowan in cycle?

[solemn sage]

haelus is awful this debuff, because no shields

[icy surge]

I've seen some dude playing with l heroes

Even for albedo

To force the immunity

[twilit gulch]

Pets in order: winged, ridge, white ball, ice beast, owl

Should I change it up?

[dusk tundra]

Right roger that

[opal bone]

47th

[storm moth]

i dropped to 90 sth

[proven hearth]

Very sad, 3 losses to the same guy

[main abyss]

shiny stars too op

[proven hearth]

[main abyss]

[proven hearth]

We trade

[dusk tundra]

What can you use for 7 teams

[civic sage]

Get rid of Khaz

I would split Wutus out into his own team but idk if you have enough supports for him

[gaunt marten]

It's so satisfying how I beat their shiny abrutus dims

Like perfect example of just monkeybrain copy paste dowsnt even work with maxed shit in the wrong fucking debuff

[proven hearth]

I’ve only set up to 5 teams so far. Very unhappy with team 5 though

[dusk tundra]

[dusk tundra]

What supports does brutus want?

[civic sage]

Well, this comp was pretty successful for me

[civic sage]

@twilit gulch you could run smth like this, LDV Raku did terrible for me

[dusk tundra]

Mishka is working pretty well in your graveborn

[civic sage]

Yeah and I’m t50 somehow with this

[storm moth]

haelus kinda useless no?

[storm moth]

because of this

[twilit gulch]

I don't have anasta or astar built

[storm moth]

bro got 2 awks before anasta and astar

[twilit gulch]

Well they're ascended

But 0 si

I could run something like this

[gaunt marten]

Me too tho

[storm moth]

but thats you gabe

[gaunt marten]

Mean 2 me

[storm moth]

how is that mean smh

[gaunt marten]

Mean 2 my me?

[dusk tundra]

Okay I will try to experiment with those teams then

[storm moth]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/441477431501783062/1048265092183101500/pepedance-1.gif

[gaunt marten]

I dint understand how having 1 team at 0% I was higher rank than when I had all teams meh to good wr

I don't even think the wr evened out

[proven hearth]

What about his cube buff?

[twilit gulch]

He's just a cube bot I think

[storm moth]

then he can work at e

no?

[twilit gulch]

U need furn for cube

[storm moth]

[twilit gulch]

This gets me t50

[restive goblet]

Would Nevanthi work in the Brutus grez oden team?

I want to try Silas with thane

[twilit gulch]

Probably

[dusk tundra]

In that A!Brutus/Graveborn comp, is Ferael BiS?

[twilit gulch]

Athalia might be better

[dusk tundra]

I had Athalia in mine but got worse win rate than ppl here. Maybe you need the white pet or my region is worse

[obtuse mauve]

I'm starting to think that having even teams is not so great. You get more points by beating people higher ranked, so having 70%-30% wr teams may be better than having 50-50 in terms of earned points

All speculation, though

[gaunt marten]

Yeah it's generally not good to scuff teams that are working fine to help a team that's suffering unless your rank is also suffering

It's just usually when I fix a 0% team my rank improves

It finally did, went from 13 to 11

I need to set 5 teams but I'm barely conscious had to do too much today

Only been awake for 5 hours so tired don't want to do teams

[gilded salmon]

Bedge time

[obtuse mauve]

I'd say take a break then, health comes first

[icy surge]

Well, t50 with this rate it's like 10% for me in my zone

[opal bone]

Day ended when I was on floor 859

Rip my tgs and 6k poe

Also this is ts channel

[wise lion]

Furn only gives first cube earlier and prevents cube from being lost after big dmg. Cubes can still be given w out furn

[dreamy relic]

Any suggestions

[frozen crest]

t39
will try wutus in team 4 and see how it performs instead

[peak widget]

😮 top 3%

[low iron]

Well, playing around with some stuff but this has been getting me a solid win-rate so far in t100s for my region incase it might help anyone - I need to get a better C&R though:

[twilit gulch]

[proven hearth]

@gaunt marten holding 2nd place

[polar dune]

0%

damn

[gaunt marten]

Yeah that was one of my teams

0% for 50 fights

And my rank went up that round

I should check my ts but I'm tired

[gaunt marten]

The fuck

[proven hearth]

Need eorin +30

Not sure it’ll make a big difference though

[gaunt marten]

Same

Can't remember if I'm using him rn

I just woke up and scarfed down some souvlaki I'm almost ready to look at ts

[trail swift]

finally ascended abrutus but he's only 302e0. worth shoving him somewhere? i have him in this silly mishka abrutus raku scarlet lyca comp

err raine not lyca

[proven hearth]

ABrutus is not great for ice debuff. You can try him and see how it goes though

[trail swift]

basically this but replaced brutus with his big brother

i'm so screwed after 4 teams either way lol, i could just leave it as is and throw abrutus in some 5th team to hopefully get above 10% winrate

[trail swift]

it's more so that his ult spam+knockbacks to delay for scarlet ults and raku CC-passive

not sure if knockbacks trigger raku's passive tho, or knockups for that matter. i assume so ?

[proven hearth]

…
That’s not aBrutus

[trail swift]

basically this but replaced brutus with his big brother

[proven hearth]

Ah ok

Read closer lol

Probably better to fit him into a 5th

[trail swift]

yeh was thinking the same

i have a 3f skreg 🤔

303 skirath too, but not really the anasta or kren invested to make a mauler team

[gaunt marten]

Sobbing

[dusk tundra]

Don’t call it a come back 💅

Top 100% to top 100. Too easy

[lilac bobcat]

You're still alive

[granite mason]

[dusk tundra]

Just resurrected to show everyone how easy TS is

[gaunt marten]

Lolol

[tropic birch]

anyone got a solid 4th Team ?

[hushed prawn]

Noone said it was hard

[dreamy relic]

Any suggestions?

[storm moth]

and im back to 2% wtf

[quartz salmon]

Really struggling to find a working t4, back to 1%

[tropic birch]

+1 need 4th team

[quartz salmon]

Will probably go back to luc cycle

[tropic birch]

got 40 - 50% with luc/Alna cycle

[quartz salmon]

And im a bit surprised my Whane team is Doing so poorly

Compared to dims at least

[quartz salmon]

Yeah I got 40% aswell two rounds ago

[quartz salmon]

What pet are you using for that team btw

[tropic birch]

hmm not in afk rn i write you in a sec

[quartz salmon]

Ok cool thanks !

[storm moth]

hmm should i test shit out at rewards

[quartz salmon]

You are at 2% right?

[storm moth]

yeah

[quartz salmon]

Then go for it

[storm moth]

209 anasta or 203 hodge for daimon

[quartz salmon]

Show teams

Probably Anasta

Debuff relies on heals a lot so 9f Anasta gud

[storm moth]

uhh so i could run this but with anasta for daimon

[quartz salmon]

I would leave t1 like it is personally, I’m running exactly that

What were your wrs this round?

[storm moth]

well i dont want to leave it like that because of this ass wr

[quartz salmon]

[lapis moth]

sir can you show win rates

[quartz salmon]

How

[storm moth]

idk

[quartz salmon]

I think 9f daimon is important but damn 20% wr difference is hugeeeee

[storm moth]

sir just look 2 messages above

[lapis moth]

ah needed to scroll mb

[storm moth]

im gonna run anasta fir daimon

it cant get worse right

[granite mason]

maybe

[quartz salmon]

I think it will be worst

[storm moth]

also should i replace this bish ezizh with desi

or neva

[quartz salmon]

Can you get Palmer M any time soon?

Desi 203 ?

Neva 303?

[storm moth]

desi 200 neva 200

[quartz salmon]

[lapis moth]

use mish for daimon sir

same wr as with wutus for me

[storm moth]

im using mishka in 5 teams

[quartz salmon]

Maybe Neva 200 works idk

[lapis moth]

ah nvm

[storm moth]

in scarlet

[quartz salmon]

But Ezizh seems better

[storm moth]

i mean i probably need heals

[quartz salmon]

True... I don’t know

[granite mason]

use wutus

[storm moth]

[quartz salmon]

I’ll test it but after rewards

[storm moth]

idgaf i test now

[lapis moth]

[quartz salmon]

Btw do I keep Estrilda for 4 lbs or mishka ?

This got me 70% kinda bad for an awk team

[gaunt marten]

70% wr not that bad depending on rank

Palmer should be center

[quartz salmon]

It’s same wr than dims, which is a bit disappointing

[trail swift]

is your skreeeeg engraved

[quartz salmon]

Oh ok I’ll change that ty

Nope

[trail swift]

oki just curious. mine is 203 atm. needs dat 9f

[granite mason]

sometimes palmer there is better than palmer center

[gaunt marten]

Cause if athane jumps to the opposite side no way palmer will reach him but in the center he can unless athane is way in the corners

[quartz salmon]

I think mishka would be better than Estrilda tho

If she manages to ult

Also heals

[gaunt marten]

Mishka kinda sucks in ice

[quartz salmon]

Good point

You would leave Estrilda ?

[gaunt marten]

Estrildas fine

[quartz salmon]

Hmm ok

I’ll have to settle for 70% wr then lol

Thanks anyways

[storm moth]

i will look at you guys from 10%

[gaunt marten]

Poverty nev

Feed her

[storm moth]

she is poverty tru

[quartz salmon]

Bro not the 203 skreg

[gaunt marten]

I haven't really touched ts a lot I'm just really tired

Lolol

[storm moth]

he always works

[quartz salmon]

I think 3f hendrik just covers for your nub skreg

[gaunt marten]

Why was there a patch just now

[storm moth]

[quartz salmon]

[gaunt marten]

Wonder if patch on test too

Really annoying how they've started hotfixing in shit right before it needs to be in the game now to avoid leaks they don't want yet ig

Just let me get that sweet datamined goodness

[quartz salmon]

Yeah I agree

Imagine if we had patch notes like in league

I would sniff that so hard

[storm moth]

@misty epoch 200 desi or that pleb neva only for heals

[gaunt marten]

Oh free 600 diamonds nice

[quartz salmon]

Desi is typical budget cycle

But Neva might be better

[gaunt marten]

Just 30si eorin let's see how he does now

Hopefully something useful

Still rank 11

[frozen crest]

did treasure scramble have 2 debuffs when it was first introduced?

or only 1 debuff and then they added 1 more, then 1 more

[storm moth]

i think is was 2

and i liked both of them

[misty epoch]

T36, Athane team lower wr than dims

[frozen crest]

nvm lemme backtrack every single debuff

[misty epoch]

How pleb

[frozen crest]

gon be a pain

[storm moth]

.

[misty epoch]

2 debuffs at the beginning

Desi prolly gonna be better

[storm moth]

hmm

ogey

[misty epoch]

Her cloud also reduces enemy stats iirc

[lapis moth]

sir I tried ezizhless cycle didn't work well tbh

[misty epoch]

Also I wanna try Isa for this debuff, could be good with her sucking

[storm moth]

and cycle with ezizh doesnt work either

[misty epoch]

But no 3f for double suck