temporal-rift

[slow barn]

unlucky rng haven't gotten owl yet

and saving spices for winged 12 before reso9

[violet lichen]

Bait is def hard to come by f2p

[vapid quest]

hmm nice thanks, I'll give it more tries next time I think

doubt I can improve by much more and already spent a lot of diamonds

[woeful fjord]

Bob told me to buy twice from the store, are you doing that too?

[violet lichen]

Yea everyday heh

[woeful fjord]

Now I feel the same way when I realized I should have been buying Time Emblems since the start

[blissful dagger]

i dont think buying bait from shop is worth it. 8 baits for 320 diamonds is shit value. tg cards are an entirely different thing, so uncomparable. baits just like cores in shop arent worth buying directly for diamonds. for no one its worth, whales or non spenders alike

[woeful fjord]

Yeah Idk, Bob's a pretty reliable fellow; I'll try to afford it somehow

[ocean wind]

In what world is 320 dias for 8 baits worth it

That's not even 1 pull

[woeful fjord]

Trust the process copium

[violet walrus]

measure by impact

pet being new and being strong it has good impact where the trade off is fine if ur not rc cram

[blissful dagger]

Nah. Baits are a new feature so baits are shit value atm but as time passes they'll get better, pretty much what happens to every new powercreep resource. Wait for another powercreep only then will bait's value in events will increase for now it's not worth it for non spenders

[small finch]

I take baits every event when possible probably super autistic move but hey i am an autist

[woeful fjord]

Nah you're just ahead of the curve. I'll get there soon I just need 107 sus and E60 Nevanthi

[blissful dagger]

Value wise bait is trash value but u do u i guess take whatever u need

[green gate]

Show ur tree

[woeful fjord]

110 cel, 107 sorc, 102 sus, 77 fort, 37 warrior

[green gate]

Are u going for juice or baits from chests and events etc. ?

[woeful fjord]

Juice for now

[green gate]

Until when ?

[woeful fjord]

I should be asking you since you're further than me, but 107 sus then I'm going to focus on cores for E60 Nevanthi

[green gate]

Its kinda similar

[woeful fjord]

If I was a spender like you I'd finish fort to 107

[green gate]

And then switching to baits ?

[woeful fjord]

You're going to do the Winged Lion resonance trick right? Then yeah I'd switch to bait personally

[green gate]

Wtf is that ?

[small finch]

Where u get like a lv 18 winged lion by res

In short I think u get winged lion to lv 12/13 normally then all the others to lv 6 then activate lv 6 res giving u enough secret spices to get lion to 18

[woeful fjord]

bro, that's like the biggest news these days

[slow barn]

get pets to lv 6->activate resonance->spices get winged to 18

read the pet channel in nihilum

tons of paragraphs

[small finch]

If you already done pet res tho just ignore it lol I did pet res

[woeful fjord]

Yeah get 8 pets to level 6 before resonance and use spare lure to max Winged Lion. Need level 13 naturally though

[green gate]

Too late

[slow barn]

if u done reso already, u can still do it as long as u have some pets that arent summoned before reso

[woeful fjord]

It's basically the only way F2P will get maxed pet. Since you're a spender it's still useful tho

[slow barn]

can still do the trick when reso 9 i think

[woeful fjord]

Yeah you can do the trick at 9 as well but it's going to take much longer

[small finch]

I can still do it ? Don’t have rock tailman the emo one or that other fire one the fat one

[slow barn]

yes

[green gate]

That will take a while

[slow barn]

basically those pets that arent summoned will become your fodder

[small finch]

How do I do it from here ? Just like get the other beast up to lv 6 and not res them

[slow barn]

if u summon the emo pet, it will prompt you whether or not to resonate it. you shouldnt resonate it and ignore the prompt
summon more emo pets- up to 6 i think. once you're there then you resonate the pet and get 5 spices

[ocean wind]

No, you need to get them to 9 without res afaik

[small finch]

Yeah okay I’ll do that then thanks 😄

[slow barn]

this is post reso 9

let me check images and show

[ocean wind]

Did you active resonance 6 yet or nah

[slow barn]

find*

[small finch]

Yeah I got lv 6 res active

[slow barn]

sth like this will appear, you basically don't click on it

get more copies, then click on it. 'twill turn to spices

[small finch]

If I accidentally click it does it give a prompt lol

[slow barn]

idk

[ocean wind]

This gives you pet specific copies and not spice no?

[small finch]

I see so get enough copies to get it to 6 then it will refund it back as secret ?

[woeful fjord]

I think that means that you get 5 levels on him, but I'm not sure

[slow barn]

it will give you 5 pet specifics and any lv above lv 1 turns into spices

sec.

[ocean wind]

Yea, that's how it works

You mean any lvl above 6

Not 1

[slow barn]

above 1st copy

[small finch]

Oh cool so how many of those pets do I need to pull for lv 6 it’s 12?

[ocean wind]

So it turns extra copies into spice

[slow barn]

yeah

[ocean wind]

I see

[small finch]

Ur a bloody real G for helping me

[slow barn]

read nihi chats next time

there may be hundreds of messages but informative

[small finch]

I just thought I messed it up lol so I didn’t bother scrolling

But yeah how many copies would I need to pull of a new pet to get it to 6?

[ocean wind]

6 copies, 1 copy for each level

[small finch]

Owowowowowowowowow

[slow barn]

1 per lv from 1-6
3 per lv from 6-12
and 4 per lv from 12-18

[small finch]

New wish list time

[ocean wind]

But since you resonated already, you can just get 1 and res but then you won't get spice

[slow barn]

yeah to utilize those pets at 6

[ocean wind]

Winged lion in

[slow barn]

seems to me only emo isnt worth resonating so a potential fodder

[obtuse charm]

I’m pretty sure you should keep Winged in your wl

[woeful fjord]

Yes you should until lv13

[ocean wind]

Also Owl is good

[woeful fjord]

Do you prefer getting winged to 18 or is there a better goal in mind when doing the strat

[slow barn]

also raku r1 baden r3 worked a lot better, got 1,5b
thanks

[ocean wind]

I am personally focusing on lion to 18 since it will also allow me to push through pcap in campaign

[woeful fjord]

I'm thinking of this, thanks for sharing

[obtuse charm]

That’s what I’m going to try but I’m waiting for AwBaden

[slow barn]

add random ppl in your ts leaderboard and find wadens, worked for me

[obtuse charm]

How big though

[slow barn]

i only found 2 1⭐30960 and 1 5⭐30960

but got this week's merc so p ok

[small finch]

Tomorrow is lv 17 badges right ?

I’m like hard stuck on this floor 😦

[runic smelt]

when do the rewinds reset?

[ocean wind]

Every Sunday iirc

So today at reset

When you start new runs, it will show you time until reset

[runic smelt]

and that is what time exactly? same as the limited time event?

[ocean wind]

What?

It resets when the game resets every day

00:00 UTC

[runic smelt]

ok

so today I can use all my remaining rewinds and tomorrow they will reset

[ocean wind]

Yep

[runic smelt]

thanks

[amber ingot]

Is my run broken? Should I just restart?

[brittle wraith]

bruh
alna is war, oden is mage, ferael is ranger, grez is tank
what are you running

no healer also

that pet wont heal much enough

[amber ingot]

Why does that matter?

[eternal mesa]

because of beacons

they give so much stats bro

[brittle wraith]

you want to focus on 3 branches only to lvl up ur beacons much higher

[amber ingot]

I have my beacons leveled

[eternal mesa]

4 of them?

[cosmic stirrup]

[eternal mesa]

yeah you are doing shit wrong

read pins

[brittle wraith]

lmao

[amber ingot]

This is why I don't like the temporal rift

[amber ingot]

I just don't care enough to play it

[obtuse charm]

Play it properly and it will be extremely easy

[brittle wraith]

tru

[amber ingot]

How can I do that?

[eternal mesa]

and extremely boring

[obtuse charm]

it gets a bit tedious once you are at 5 teams, but before that it's easy with the right units/teams

[brittle wraith]

here is how

[obtuse charm]

^

[eternal mesa]

btw asta vei or cruke

[amber ingot]

I'm constantly doing things wrong and don't know what I'm doing and don't exactly care to play it

[eternal mesa]

overall

[amber ingot]

Meh, I'd rather not play

[obtuse charm]

We'll have to wait for a bit longer

[amber ingot]

Too complicated

[eternal mesa]

fair enough

[obtuse charm]

but it doesn't really matter tbh

[brittle wraith]

well you can forget those easy rewards

[eternal mesa]

i have thought about skipping zol ngl

and just buy him

[amber ingot]

I never get them anyway 🤷‍♀️

[obtuse charm]

These are my teams for Rift

Just go Tank/Sus/Mage and run smth like this ^

[obtuse charm]

I'm considering 1lene/Morael next

[eternal mesa]

neva?

[amber ingot]

I wouldn't exactly call them easy when I'm doing every thing wrong and wouldn't be getting them anyway

[obtuse charm]

She's a lot better for me in Cycle

[eternal mesa]

i thought about talene or vei

[obtuse charm]

Sonja at E+ is a solid sub for Neva though

[brittle wraith]

extra heal prob, prolong the time swolise ult

[amber ingot]

That doesn't exactly help because I'm missing a lot if the champions/investments

[brittle wraith]

like im running desira rn

[obtuse charm]

Then play it right, spend a few minutes per day and you will get free rewards

[obtuse charm]

What heroes/investments do you miss?

[eternal mesa]

i think i could try her

altho shes only M+

200

[amber ingot]

That's what I did and that's how I ended up where I'm at

[obtuse charm]

I'm not sure then tbh

[brittle wraith]

let me ask a newbie @sonic walrus what floor are you

[amber ingot]

?

[obtuse charm]

Do you have Wolise L or no?

[brittle wraith]

you can reach f200 easily, i trust you

[eternal mesa]

eh daimon/sonja are good enough fir now

[obtuse charm]

You can run my exact same teams but Desira instead of Haelus

[amber ingot]

Asolise?

[obtuse charm]

yes

[sonic walrus]

f160 or smth
Its boring when it comes to 3 teams

[amber ingot]

I don't know what I'm doing. I just had it on auto and it brought me to that which is wrong

[brittle wraith]

first thing first, reset ur beacons

[eternal mesa]

e+ neva is a good sub too btw

[brittle wraith]

reset the ranger, war and spend all the points in mage- support- tank

[obtuse charm]

Yeah, I wasn't exactly sure if she's better than Sonja at that investment though

[amber ingot]

I do but I figured there would be better champs that I'd want to bring in first

[brittle wraith]

nah

[eternal mesa]

she actually does stuff

[obtuse charm]

L Wolise is amazing in rift

[eternal mesa]

i was suprised

[brittle wraith]

a copy of swolise is surprisingly very strong in trift

[amber ingot]

I wouldn't think so but, if that's what everyone's saying...

[timid shuttle]

This is why u should read the pins

[obtuse charm]

just exit your run, and immediately do this

[eternal mesa]

it got me to 450 as a carry in one of the teams

so i would say shes good

[amber ingot]

She's a carry?!

[brittle wraith]

[eternal mesa]

kinda yeah

you can run sonja or daimon for more dps tho

[brittle wraith]

one of the strongest team in trift with L ascension

[amber ingot]

I've always tried to go for Ainzbedo and Alna gb as my first two teams

[brittle wraith]

I dont recommend run sonja or daimon, run her with a healer such as desira or neva to prolong her ult

[eternal mesa]

eh idk about that

sonja and daimon are also good at front line

[amber ingot]

I'm not though?

[eternal mesa]

and with e+ ezizh its kinda hard to have 2 front line heroes yk

[brittle wraith]

alna is warrior, and you dont run warrior, so throw alna away. hodgkin or daimon is a better choice

[obtuse charm]

Sonja is still very solid in Rift

[amber ingot]

I only have desira at e+

[brittle wraith]

ik but i did run her with sonja and desira
i feel like when i run her with sonja, she didnt do enough dmg to kill enemies

[split latch]

Twins and ezizh can work at e+?

[brittle wraith]

then run her with neva

[brittle wraith]

yes

[amber ingot]

I only have hodgkin at e+

[brittle wraith]

here i'll build 2 team for you
t1 : mishka arthur JoA albedo ainz( white ball)
t2 : neva swolise ezizh rowan twins ( strongest pet you have)
try it and tell me the expression

[amber ingot]

Hmm. People have always told me that I'd want Ainzbedo as my first team as my carry team

[brittle wraith]

tbh that second team is stronger than ainzbedo in some cases

[obtuse charm]

Ainzbedo is still very strong in rift

[low heath]

Baits are a new feature so baits are shit value atm
I don't follow. what about baits are bad rn?

[amber ingot]

Apparently I can't use Ezizh because I don't have him e+

[brittle wraith]

use palmer instead if you have him E+ or higher

[amber ingot]

I don't...

Both of them are only e

[brittle wraith]

use sonja then

[amber ingot]

Should I just stargaze to get Ezizh e+?

[brittle wraith]

no

[split latch]

Any replacement for joa in Ainz?

[brittle wraith]

mortas

[eternal mesa]

arthur

[amber ingot]

What's her investment?

[brittle wraith]

E+

[split latch]

Yeah but no healer then

[amber ingot]

OK good. I have her at M

[brittle wraith]

use desira then

or that white ball

do you have merlin?

[split latch]

So Ainz,bedo, Arthur,morthas desi?

Nah in few months

[brittle wraith]

oh rip
i think thats okay

[split latch]

Well guide say ldv first 🙂 bought merlin once

[brittle wraith]

yeah i thought u get both of them alr

[split latch]

Next rift haha

Does palmer works instead of ezizh?

[brittle wraith]

no, a sub for the DR only

ezizh still better cuz he gives energy

[split latch]

Yeah already gazed one for Thoran lol. No luck getting second copy

[eternal mesa]

dont buy him

it slowed my ldv

[split latch]

Yeah i won't

[blissful dagger]

Valuewise they're bad. Compared to other resources that u can get

In that msg i was talking about relative event values

[blissful dagger]

That are mentioned here...

[low heath]

ur previous message was saying baits were bad before events were mentioned

[blissful dagger]

I said 320 diamonds for 8 baits in store is pretty shit value

Just like the cores for diamonds in store

Not worth buying at all

[low heath]

why

[blissful dagger]

From store u get 8 baits for 320 diamonds.
For getting 1 epic pet u need 600 bait ( assuming worst rng )
Which means u gotta buy bait from shop 75 times.
This will take a month and 1 week since it's only available to buy twice a day .
75*320=24k diamonds for just 1 copy of epic pet

Yeah not worth it^^

[low heath]

assuming worst rng is not a fair assessment for obvious reasons

[blissful dagger]

Even assuming good rng ure paying shit ton of diamonds for a sad amount and just 1 copy of a pet

[brittle wraith]

well i agree with that, 320/8 baits is shit value

[blissful dagger]

Better spend diamonds on rc, sg or selects

[low heath]

sg is much lower value these days, very saturated

pets are essentially immune to powercreep. can only get better value over time

[cosmic stirrup]

I think it depends on where you are in the game, early game players prob shouldn't buy baits but if you have a diverse roster it's prob a good idea to buy it

[low heath]

I don't even think HCP is worth after a certain point. Palmer is broken, that's a rare exception

[cosmic stirrup]

I've just started buying 2x baits but I'm skipping the 200 FR

[low heath]

yep. saturation in any given area has a big effect on how a given account values resources

[brittle wraith]

you would choose 500 baits over 40 sg cards?

[low heath]

In what world is 320 dias for 8 baits worth it
That's not even 1 pull
You only get 140-180 red chests in most events. That's not even 1 +30, so it must not be worth, right?

[blissful dagger]

Rc is 160 on most events and 200 on sigils

[cosmic stirrup]

The main thing is beast resonance, if there wasn't reso I wouldn't buy baits

[low heath]

yes, and no. I would choose the baits and still profit in dia over time, so I'm just delaying sg by a little bit

[blissful dagger]

If tomorrow ure offered by Lilith 20k diamonds for one beast of ur choice. Or let's just take 15k diamonds directly for 1 copy of any beast ...
Would u take it? I don't think anyone would

Lol

[brittle wraith]

like that can give you 1-2 copy of a pet, but it also could give me a copy of celepog

[low heath]

u need 14-16 copies for celehypo to be useful, yes?

[blissful dagger]

Depends

[low heath]

3-6 copies, depending on the pet, is a HUGE boost

[blissful dagger]

Mortas useful at e and mythic

Same for mehira

Some don't need stars and so on

[brittle wraith]

it costs a lot to lvl up a pet though

[blissful dagger]

Depends on minimum/Optimal investment how many copies a celehypo needs ^^

[low heath]

?

[blissful dagger]

Exactly

[low heath]

lvl 6 pet is literally 6 copies

and that's already a massive boost in every mode

[blissful dagger]

Who's talking about lvl 6 pets lol

[low heath]

you're talking about e mehira and e mortas

[blissful dagger]

Main stuff starts at 9 and 12

[low heath]

"lol"

[blissful dagger]

With 15 and 18 there too

[brittle wraith]

how many copies do you need from reso 6 to reso 9?

[blissful dagger]

Fat fire, rock and talisman all have good 9s.
Blade has good 12 and 15
Polar has good 12
Owl deer and winged want 18

I'm pretty sure most people already have lvl 6 resonance

Excluding newbies

Or relatively new people

[brittle wraith]

yeah

[low heath]

dont know. perp has that data.

[eternal mesa]

45

[lament jolt]

how many celehypo copies do you need for ascended

[low heath]

it's funny how quickly the goalposts move. you'll bring up E Mortas and E Mehira, but ig we're excluding newbies now

[blissful dagger]

About 1 million diamonds ish for that

[eternal mesa]

14

[blissful dagger]

Yep coz we're talking about celehypo viability at different copies ^^

[low heath]

I told Spectre to buy bc he's an older acct. it's that simple

[brittle wraith]

elite rate is 2.5% equally, so its about ~400 to get an epic

[low heath]

most resources are saturated for such an acct and only decline in value over time. baits can only increase in value as time goes on

[amber ingot]

2nd team: first enemy I face isn't even close

[brittle wraith]

720k

[obtuse charm]

Put Twins frontline

[brittle wraith]

[blissful dagger]

Yeah being the newest powercreep it'll obviously get better in value but buying it rn from store for that ridiculous price of 320 diamonds for just 8 baits isn't worth it

[low heath]

it's already good in value now and impossible to powercreep

[brittle wraith]

you want swolise to ult and everyone else survive. Avoid ezizh, satrana,torne, and burst

[brittle wraith]

i'd rather use that much diamonds for 1440 sg cards

[blissful dagger]

U missed the point

[blissful dagger]

Yeah pretty much ^^

[low heath]

red chests, furn, shards, cores. eventually those units will be pcrept and you'll be left with poor invests

baits can only get stronger. u invested in a bad pet today? just reso the new one

[brittle wraith]

then dont buy it with diamonds from store
use it to do cRe0n said earlier

[blissful dagger]

Again, those resources ure wasting on the shit price in store can be used in other places and give better results/ return of investment

[low heath]

use it to do cRe0n said earlier
can u reword this cuz this doesnt make sense

[low heath]

why is it a dichotomy?

u can afford to do sg and baits

[brittle wraith]

here
nothing mentioned to buy red chests, furn, shards, cores from stores

[low heath]

HCP arent great value, either, which ik alrdy makes ppl uncomfortable

[cosmic stirrup]

The nice thing with pets is that all you need are copies, with heroes u need to get their si,furn and engraving

[low heath]

and rc is ok value. u can afford to do rc and baits in conjunction

[brittle wraith]

spend on baits, i'd rather to get copies of meta heroes released recently like neva, palmer, and vei.
its a mega whale feature ngl for those pets cramming

[low heath]

there's an idea here that baits take something else away, but they don't if you choose the right things

[brittle wraith]

And who should buy that? Early? Very late?

[low heath]

neva doesn't need to be hcp'd. two copies is functional for rift and the swolise/tarnos TS comp is too expensive for most ppl

[blissful dagger]

Exactly my point. I'd rather build good heroes than waste diamonds on pathetic amount of baits

[cosmic stirrup]

So don't juice cram cuz it's also a mega whale feature?

[low heath]

late-ish. by ch40* or 41 ish

[blissful dagger]

Buddy nevanthi isn't just used in Swolise tarnos comp lol

[brittle wraith]

we are talking about value from STORES

[low heath]

I actually don't like juice cram anymore, either

[brittle wraith]

then if they buy that, do you think they can get better result in cr and ts?

[low heath]

yes

[blissful dagger]

I use her pretty much everywhere i think. Campaign, TS ( not in Swolise tarnos comp though, she's very versatile can be used in multiple teams) , rift, grandhunt, CR ( recently she replaced Silas in orthros talene comp in couple of bosses ) and ofc wilder tower

[low heath]

rift/hunt/cr, she works at E+

campaign and wild are

I'm not aware of any TS comp for her

[blissful dagger]

But does even better at more investment and with much higher score potential ^^

[obtuse charm]

Neva HCP is definitely worth it for a new player imo

[brittle wraith]

neva, palmer, vei, all cr meta
and neva vei in ts as well
(rift also)

[obtuse charm]

she can be used in TS outside the Abaden comp

[blissful dagger]

Ye

Haelus also works at e did u know?

[obtuse charm]

buying baits is an option, but I somewhat agree with cRe0n you'd have to be quite advanced for it to be worth to buy, at minimum ch 42+ (assuming the person is pushing Campaign to their furthest point possible)

[brittle wraith]

Buying TOT and baits, do you think they can have enough diamonds for FR, refresh stores, and sg?

[obtuse charm]

HCP + ToT already eats into most of a new player's diamonds with new heroes like Anasta/Astar/Palmer/Neva being prevalent in a variety of modes

[low heath]

CR, Rift, and Grand Hunt is 99% effective with E+ Nev

[eternal mesa]

ch40 is definitely too early to buy baits

[brittle wraith]

ch47+

[blissful dagger]

Chapter 53 also too early to buy baits from store. Mainly bcoz they buy it with real money instead

[obtuse charm]

Are you sure about Rift, I definitely noticed a significant increase in Neva's performance and CR I heavily doubt that is true but ig it doesn't really matter for a new player

[low heath]

Nerds was running Nev in a comp without summoners lol

also Nev is used in CR for the +energy from ult

she never dies, nobody in that comp dies cuz Talene overheals like crazy

and there's no summoners in the CR comp

[obtuse charm]

SIF is still very useful

Having summoners or not doesn't really change the impact of ascension

[low heath]

9f doesnt work if there are no summoners. sig is reflection dmg but afaik she has to tank the dmg first

and she's not rly a dps so im not that concerned w dmg reflection

3f doesnt work without summoners as well

which is kinda awkward

[obtuse charm]

I don't think so

furn is a fair point

I didn't realise furn is useless without summoners

[low heath]

dmg reflection shouldnt make or break your comp outside of campaign

[obtuse charm]

Well, Neva's ascension isn't just for Rift so it's not too bad

[low heath]

rift/cr are prolly her main points. ive not seen evidence of neva in cheaper ts comps other than ppl saying it works

[obtuse charm]

Most commonly I see her used in LDV Raku in newer regions, but not really effective this debuff

[low heath]

what does she bring to ldv raku?

[obtuse charm]

Healing/Energy?

[low heath]

thats more or less a bursty comp. there are no summoners in that comp

[blissful dagger]

I guess u missed when i said she's pretty versatile in PvP. Besides the usual tarnos/Swolise or abaden variations, she can be used in - normal alna gb, any variation of energy cycle, any jank u build for team 6 or 7 which most people do so...

[low heath]

you almost dont want energy cuz rakus ult. its rly such a weird part of his kit

[blissful dagger]

Just open TS, ull see her everywhere in every debuff of TS

[obtuse charm]

Increased energy = faster LDV ult which can decide the fight

[blissful dagger]

Used by both spenders and non spenders alike

Really good hero and very versatile ^^

[obtuse charm]

Raku's ult doesn't seem that much of a detriment in bursty TS debuffs considering that it allows him to finish off enemies quicker

An example of this I used last debuff was in Scarlet comp, where I was t50/t100 (was t50 for a decent portion but fell to t100)

Raine gets about 50% here looking at peers

[blissful dagger]

I love using ezizh/Zolrath in that team and screwing other scarlet users

It's fun

[obtuse charm]

This is just 1 of many examples though, this is what I used last debuff

[low heath]

enemies tend to have too much TY

[obtuse charm]

Not in my region when ppl troll constantly

[blissful dagger]

[obtuse charm]

Most of my enemies are usually non-engraved within t100 excluding carry units

only t50 or above you start encountering full e30 teams from my experience but RNG varies

[brittle wraith]

polar lv9 : 👀

[obtuse charm]

Oh yh, I need to test him in TS but I'm too poor for lvl 9

[low heath]

Regional diff then. This is 2%

[obtuse charm]

VERY heavy regional diff

[low heath]

everyone and their mother is engraved here

[obtuse charm]

Silent's Wutus comp bumped me up to 63rd

[low heath]

TS kinda doomed if you're not at least 1% in every debuff, cuz at least you'd have a chance of getting the timecards if u bumped up just a bit

if you're 2% or worse, TS invest is kinda ass return, which really sucks depending on ur region

[obtuse charm]

Newer regions TS usually easier because of lack of guides surrounding it which is a huge +

[low heath]

so my TS is doomed, in which case I do not value Nev's contributions here, but your region and any newer regions, f2p can actually compete, so I shud have accounted for that

mb

[obtuse charm]

I just hope no one bothers to make guides for TS

[low heath]

traum is 92nd in my region, so you can tell I'll never rank

[low heath]

guides for competitive modes are inherently self sabotaging

you have a decent idea of the work I put in. Imagine after all that, my reward is a decrease in my personal rank cuz ev1 else profits from it

so ppl just arent willing to do it

[ocean wind]

I don't think that's fair comparison, given you get those chests for free in exchange events

[obtuse charm]

Yeah, I thought of making one considering how easy it would be but then realised I'd be lowering my own rank

[low heath]

dont buy FR then. it's not even 1 RC lvl, or one poe pull, or one e30. must be ass

everything comes in increments even if no immediate payoff

we build for long term

[blissful dagger]

FR?

[low heath]

fast reward

[ocean wind]

Fast rewards

[blissful dagger]

Ohh

FR is actually good value in terms of diamonds spent lmao

Unlike 8 baits for 320 diamonds

[ocean wind]

Alright fair enough, for spenders could be worth it in the long run, but personally (low spender/dolphin - VIP 12) I think I can get more value somewhere else

[vapid quest]

so would you recommend getting baits even for f2p?

[obtuse charm]

Well, bait could be good once you're saturated on other resources

[low heath]

why is it good value? bc someone made a spreadsheet and assigned values to each item, then calculated it was worth for the cost?

so why are baits bad value? was that same analysis done?

maybe the person who assigned the spreadsheet put values higher than you're comfortable with. are you gonna change your thinking about whether or not it's valuable?

[brittle wraith]

when you finish all meta heroes
when
ch47

[low heath]

I recommended it to an older f2p. idk what ur acct looks like

[vapid quest]

I could get it if you are using your dias to get niche celepogs tbh

Just won't be there yet anytime aoon

[low heath]

SG card income is much higher than it used to be. It is possible to SG the nicher choices using purely cards - it's how I got my CRuke

[vapid quest]

Fair enough

[muted pagoda]

wait until they release awakened beasts

[low heath]

? I'll just resonate them

[low heath]

it's worth saying that you dont need reso 9 to see huge performance spikes. Blade Ridge 9 and Rock Lizard 9 are both insanely powerful

[brittle wraith]

yeah, rushing for reso9 when you havent done talene, morael and zol.. gl on ts and cr

[muted pagoda]

was mainly memeing but i p sure they are not gonna let u resonate awakened beasts if they ever release

[blissful dagger]

Till it says that u can't

[low heath]

again, I didn't say to rush Reso 9, but Blade Ridge and Rock 9 are insanely powerful upgrades. Blade Ridge basically makes ur mages deal 60% more dmg against one enemy permanently.
older f2p alrdy have Talene Morael and Zol, which is why I recommended it to Spectre.
you don't need Zol for CR, or Talene/Mora for TS. Zol is also available in chall shop so it's not competing with Bait.

there's a serious question on whether or not new accts shud even care ab CR if they can't score even 40% with a perfect run

question for another time

[brittle wraith]

tbh mostly ch44+ players has >3 lv9 beast alr

[low heath]

idk where ur getting that number

i have 9/6/6 as my top 3

[blissful dagger]

Mine's 11/9/9 top 3

[low heath]

older f2p can get huge upgrades at specific breakpoints like Blade 9, Rock 9, Winged 12

[blissful dagger]

But my case is very different exclude me

[atomic imp]

Zolrath and mishka are both summoners. I got pretty good results with zol mishka raku ldv nev in the last ice buff

[low heath]

it's also worth saying 6 to 9 is just as expensive as 9 to 12, and it's pretty well known how insanely strong various lvl 12 pets are.

[low heath]

hmmm. most ppl use Mish with Scar so I didn't count that as part of Raku comp, but that's fair.

[brittle wraith]

you know thats strong, but do you think how much it costs and how long it takes

[low heath]

a good pet, esp if it's Winged, has more impact on the team than any sg/hcp target I can get

so how much does it cost, or how long? doesnt rly matter - it's the best upgrade in my near future by a sizable amount

[brittle wraith]

hope ts and cr is a single team fight only

[blissful dagger]

[low heath]

you do realize an sg/hcp is also one fight only, and only affects 1/5 of the team, right?

[blissful dagger]

If it's a carry/meta hero it affects overall ranking and thereby affects ur rewards ^^

[atomic imp]

Yeah It’s hard to decide between talene/morael and something like Cruke for TS. I’m scoring top 50 in TS and the highest I’ve ever gotten in CR is like 45%

[low heath]

is the top 50 safe, or are you in danger of falling?

I'd say like 38th ish is safe for sure

[obtuse charm]

I am 32% CR rn and I'm pretty sure I have a worse box than you

[atomic imp]

I’ve gotten t50 in 4 out of the last 6 rewards. I usually get t3X for the first reward round and I fall into 4X or 5X in the second round

[low heath]

45% is low, and Talene/mora wouldnt even push you to 35%. I lean towards securing TS t50

[atomic imp]

I could probably do a bit better in CR yeah.

For a while it was hard to get good mercs but I can usually get a baeden or Asolise nowadays

[obtuse charm]

I think the best thing to do when evaluating CR investments vs other modes is actively trying to get the best score possible even if you aren't near any good rewards and seeing where to go from there

[atomic imp]

I just usually have at least one fight that does like zero damage

[blissful dagger]

[low heath]

there's really no reason to continue this if you're gonna be flippant and dismissive. it's the same reason I've stopped replying to Creon - I don't really care to read "what about this lol you're so dumb". I'm interested in real genuine conversation.
I gave a recommendation to an account that is different than yours (much older, to my knowledge). it was plain from the start that your situation is diff and that's fine, you do you. sg/hcp have much lower value for other accounts - as soon as Vei is done, and my Palmer's alrdy finished, they hold next to 0 value for me. I've let plenty of monthly HCP's go without using them and I will continue to do so bc they no longer hold value to me. I'll just leave it at that.

[brittle wraith]

older, but dont say that to ch40-41 users, need much older

[low heath]

yeah. that was my mistake

43 or higher seems fine

much more productive to have talks like this

[brittle wraith]

tbh, its hard to decide between spending on baits, or save for new meta heroes coming in the future

[low heath]

it is. I just offered advice to someone. they don't have to take it

[atomic imp]

I’ve been buying the baits for diamonds for a while because idk what else to use them on. My bottleneck for building heroes is usually cores at this point

[low heath]

yeah. hcp/sg come with a lot of baggage - they're not complete until 209e60 something or other

[atomic imp]

Like what Bob was saying- if I want to build talene or whatever then I need to set aside 4500 cores and 9 furniture. I could use those cores and furniture on other stuff I already have copies of

[low heath]

im actually really glad Palmer works fine at 209e30

or e39 if u prefer. that's almost cheap in terms of modern builds

😅

[atomic imp]

I was actually thinking of hcp’ing palmer though. I have 3f for him already through luck

[low heath]

I can't fault it. Palmer might be the best HCP target since Anasta

[tame kettle]

What is palmer and veis breakpoints in terms of investment?

[low heath]

Palmer's a 209e3x. Vei works at M30 but if u want him for dps u go further

[tame kettle]

9f oh damn

I recently got both, nowhere near at the furn department

[graceful summit]

Feels like furniture got slower in the last month. Palmer going slow for me even using cards.

[ocean wind]

I'd rather having to +30 someone than getting 9f

Furn is so painfully slow

[amber ingot]

Should I restart again?

I have a debuff that takes away my health regen

[obtuse charm]

Yes

never enter the Vexing Realm for future reference

or you can just play out the run until you lose completely but that could be a waste of rewinds at your stage

[stable depot]

is gladiator ever worth it

[cosmic stirrup]

Yes, if you have a decent bossing team it should be a free win

Also lowers the next boss hp by 10%

[stable depot]

thank you bear

[midnight abyss]

Anyone talk 4 teams for 15 heroes?

[small finch]

Probably for whales it will be like aw baden and 2 others would make a team

[proven arrow]

Usually built around awakeneds

[quasi fulcrum]

What are those comps 🫦

[tranquil heron]

Floor 150, these are my heroes, need 2 teams to beat this floor, would appreciate some help

[small finch]

Baden and probably thane do u can run rangers support

[small finch]

My gb team performed the best against that boss

Navanthi grez daimon oden hodg

[tranquil heron]

Yea no I can't do that, I showed my pool above

[small finch]

Can u repost ? Can’t find it

Also Lucretia ? Are u just using her for cheese or are u running rangers

Even just try a full gb like grez thoran daimon Silas oden

[proven arrow]

This is what I have when I log in…

[small finch]

My ainz team and even my wolice team failed on the boss

[tranquil heron]

it's just right there?

4 messages above

[small finch]

Oh I thought u meant ur whole box like u would redo ur teams have u attempted just pure gb? Did that not work

[tranquil heron]

I'll try that now, I prob can complete it but at least half will die

[tranquil heron]

Nvm it worked just like that wow thx, what floor are you at

[small finch]

289

[tranquil heron]

Can you help me out?

Here is my box, I now need 3 teams that will work getting through the rift

[small finch]

I’d try gb ainz then astra mishka wolice rowan and maybe scarlet? Or skreg just me personally

[tranquil heron]

Shouldn't Ainz comp be 1 of them instead of Ainz GB?

[small finch]

Yeah sorry I meant it as like ainz / gb / maybe this team with these units

[tranquil heron]

Ohh okay, what about Luc would any team work with her or nah

[small finch]

Na it will get to a point where she will drop off if you are not investing into rangers and you don’t have the box to run full rangers don’t worry neither do i

We are stuck running mages

[tranquil heron]

Astar Mishka Solice Rowan and Scarlet then for 3rd team?

[small finch]

To like successfully run rangers you need aw baden thane etc etc whale heavy but more consistent and easier then mages

[tranquil heron]

Oh wow nvm then

No Luc

[small finch]

That’s what I’m using

[tranquil heron]

Yea I'm missing like 7 of those, as in I don't have them built

[modest trellis]

I’m using this

[violet walrus]

so painful

just get so painful

[spiral creek]

[violet walrus]

make it stop @spiral creek

[spiral creek]

36f help

[violet walrus]

but who

[spiral creek]

my heroes

help me i mean

try abaden nev twins ezizh

[violet walrus]

ezizh die too easy

[spiral creek]

oh then here go my plan to the trashbin

[violet walrus]

only overhealing work atm for me

[spiral creek]

have you tried pushing slower?

[violet walrus]

no

lot of ppl at 400 already so i should be able to do it

[spiral creek]

can i get armillary 20 by this weekend flawy?

[violet walrus]

very likely

[spiral creek]

with or without pushing now?

im not that hardcore to go 4 teams with 15 people

[violet walrus]

might need pushing

[spiral creek]

have you used vei?

in rift

[glacial shard]

Anyone got 2 good teams for boss ?

[arctic snow]

how the hell

[spiral creek]

i just re-calculate and its not possible

without pushing a bit

also i mean badge 20 (armillary 17) instead of 20

@violet walrus and yes ezizh dies

[violet walrus]

yeah i know you meant lv 17

every day only roughly 200-300 essence so u need to be high enough for it to collat over to 17

[spiral creek]

i need 8.3 days from now till it

so i need to beat 350

[arctic snow]

me sitting here watching with my armillary 4 without even starting rift

[violet walrus]

then you'll just be very behind

thats all there is to it

[tribal oasis]

Vei is good in rift he doesn't die

I use him w athane

Or with asolise

To kill boss I use asolise cycle but with him instead of ezizh and she does stupid damage and it's over really fast

[dawn yacht]

any grand hunt teams out yet

[kindred nacelle]

Lol

[dawn yacht]

wot

[pure turtle]

Floor 150, I need 2 teams to beat that floor

[glacial shard]

got a solid f2p team for first fight but massivly struggling on 2nd fight

getting 37b damage with first team

[dawn yacht]

yeah that boss is annoying

[green gate]

Any 4 Teams with 15 heroes ?

[glacial shard]

p2w guys using antandra to get like 40b damage

[muted umbra]

Lol i just agi teams

[brittle wraith]

for r1 i use basic scarlet comp

[glacial shard]

and 2nd

[brittle wraith]

random bs with anty

[glacial shard]

imagin having anty build

[brittle wraith]

work at E+

[glacial shard]

how much dmg you have all in all

[glacial shard]

we talking about antandra here or

[brittle wraith]

~40b

[brittle wraith]

yeah anty

[glacial shard]

in total from both comps ?

[muted umbra]

I just use these they doing pretty good

[brittle wraith]

first comp
im thinking about sec one

[glacial shard]

doing 38b with first one but 2nd one only 900mil such bs

[brittle wraith]

yeah ik

[glacial shard]

i hate the new boss

Any sweats here got a f2p friendly team for boss

[brittle wraith]

oh sht

just realized anty is war

thats why its that much lower

[glacial shard]

anty at e+ pretty trash ngl

[brittle wraith]

E+ works well if you run war

[tranquil heron]

Need 3 teams for floor 150+

[brittle wraith]

wolise cycle, ainzbedo, gb

[tranquil heron]

Just pure GB team?

[glacial shard]

but i gotta run mage support tank

[tranquil heron]

And what is cycle team

[brittle wraith]

yeah

[brittle wraith]

twins ezizh rowan

[brittle wraith]

yeah
remember: no ranger( ferael). no war( alna)

[tranquil heron]

Oh ehh as you can see my ezizh only at E and twins at E+

[tranquil heron]

Alright

[brittle wraith]

then use sonja for ezizh

[glacial shard]

maybe i can go mage, support, warrior but problem i got mishka in first team and another tank

[brittle wraith]

mage sup tank is

[tranquil heron]

Sonja isn't built tho

[brittle wraith]

E+ works

you dont need high ascension for cycle

[tranquil heron]

No I mean like no SI no furn no engraving

[brittle wraith]

its still ok

her ult gives 50% damage reduction, which is huge

[tranquil heron]

And what is the other hero not including Wolice

[glacial shard]

Daimon if you got no aSolise

[tranquil heron]

I do at L

I said not including

[glacial shard]

then aSolise, twins, Ezizh, Rowan, Sonja

[brittle wraith]

a healer such as desira neva
or rosa for energy

[tranquil heron]

What can I replace Ezizh with

[brittle wraith]

or astar

[glacial shard]

imagin cycle with no ezizh

[tranquil heron]

Do I put the teams in this order too

[tranquil heron]

Don't think E copy will do much

[brittle wraith]

gb is the weakest one, then ainzbedo, then cycle

[tranquil heron]

So gb is team 3 then

[glacial shard]

Cycle just dominating af for me

[glacial shard]

Cycle > ainzbedo > gb

[tranquil heron]

Alright thx

[tranquil heron]

So do I just use E copy

[glacial shard]

What tr level you at atm ?

[brittle wraith]

f1

im retired

[glacial shard]

imagin retired

but i have to say AFK Arena should change their name AFK is irritating

[brittle wraith]

true

delete trift ae hf

[green gate]

Any grand hunt teams ?

[glacial shard]

yea

2nd team just copy from leaderboards and first team i get 38b damage if you intrested

[brittle wraith]

t1 scarlet like usual
t2 oden with 4 other bs
mage/sup/tank

[glacial shard]

oden only gets 900mil damage for me such bs

[strong fable]

50 beacons

74b

[glacial shard]

imagin being f2p

[green gate]

Support, warrior and tanks ?

And what badges for r2 ?

[glacial shard]

you got a 2nd team for me with no anty ?

[strong fable]

yep

Badges were hatchet, hatchet, cloak, herb, crystal

[green gate]

Thx

[strong fable]

Whatever people were using instead of anty last rift I guess

[glacial shard]

idk what they used lol

[eternal mesa]

anty did dmg at E+ last gh

so you can try her and see

[split latch]

Bro those shit gb team they drop like fly's

[compact loom]

are there any first boss comps for temporal rift - grand hunt ?

[brittle wraith]

@compact loom

[still cosmos]

Who do I add to the team?

[fading steppe]

67b

R2 team relic is hatchet hatchet cape bullet leaf

[muted umbra]

U can do around 60b with f2p team btw

Does palmer work e+ in grand hunt tho?

[glacial shard]

then tell me that f2p team

[tranquil heron]

I need a 3rd team for floors 150+, other 2 teams are ainzbedo and gb

[glacial shard]

aSolise Cycle

[brittle wraith]

bro we just answered like 2hr ago and then this guy go ask about it again

[glacial shard]

lol

[tranquil heron]

I was hoping for other people to answer it

[glacial shard]

yea but aSolise cycle is the way ngl

[tranquil heron]

Cuz I said my Ezizh is only E so I was looking for a replacement for him

[dawn yacht]

hey it seems like they heard our complaints.. the 'retry' button isn't so easy to miss anym0re

good lilly

[small finch]

Wtf I made it to 300 was only 11 away now it’s 4 teams it truely is afk arena waiting to unlock four teams 😭

[glacial shard]

can you show your teams ?

[small finch]

Standard gb with navanthi standard ainz team then a wolice

Silas can work in navanthi place wolice can probably do it at L just with more retry’s

[glacial shard]

thx

[glacial shard]

F havent got Haelus build any subs ?

[small finch]

Desira maybe I had healus on gb team

[glacial shard]

ok desira i have build

can you show your beacon ?

[glacial shard]

[small finch]

❤️

[glacial shard]

can you show the rest ?

or is renewed hope the last

[small finch]

Below energy transfer is just renewed hope

And that’s just lv 1

[glacial shard]

ok gonna try that currently at 200

[split latch]

No Rowan is cycle?

[small finch]

He can probably work better never needed him

[split latch]

[glacial shard]

you can prob sub him in for astar maybe

[muted umbra]

Scarlett grez mortas twins palmer. I used e+ palmer only got 42b

U can get like 70b

If ur palmer isnt dog***

[glacial shard]

Beast ?

[slow barn]

what team 2 with that

[muted umbra]

I just used trash beast since i didnt have the right one. Let me find it

[muted umbra]

Mishka astar Hodgkin oden and last one let me remember

[slow barn]

cool thx

[muted umbra]

Lorsan. Idk if thats good tho.

The Beast for first team is the bird

The second one is fox

Team 1 is all the dmg. Team 2 is only a few billion

[slow barn]

better than current setup with 50b

[muted umbra]

The leaderboard has full p2w so guess i could share a f2p friendly xD

[muted umbra]

How much u got?

[slow barn]

havent hit yet

ill hit when i remember and look up this msg

[muted umbra]

I did 42b with trash beast e+ palmer xD

With good palmer for sure 70b+

[glacial shard]

You mewn for 1 winged lion ?

[muted umbra]

I always forget names ill check later

[green gate]

Anyone has 4 teams with 15 heroes ?

[violet walrus]

$10

[green gate]

No Dollars senior

[green gate]

My Cruke is only M+

Need 3 more copies

[green gate]

Any replacement for Cruke ?

[violet walrus]

Any tank to stall for asolise should work

[green gate]

Can Sonja work ?

[violet walrus]

Sonja not nessecary someone who will stall for asolise but u can try

[eternal mesa]

use lucius ong

[muted pagoda]

this did 25b for me with absolutely poverty investments on everyone

and like 28ish beacons

[woeful fjord]

Thanks!

[tranquil heron]

Is Ezizh necessary for Wolice cycle

[merry depot]

no but it will make it way more scuffed

[tranquil heron]

My Ezizh is only E and not built at all

[merry depot]

I did twins sonja both E+, desira M+20 rowan wolise last season

it worked till floor 450 iirc

then i decided to gaze a copy of him for E+, it makes it way less annoying

[tranquil heron]

Hmm could you suggest another team for me then perhaps? First 2 are Ainzbedo and GB

[merry depot]

this should work, but it will be your worst team probably

[merry depot]

do you have scarlet burst team?

[tranquil heron]

Can you list that

[merry depot]

it struggles against more teams compared to gbs and dims but quite good if you understand matchups

you are runnign mage supp tank ig?

normal scarlet burst (used in ts for exemple) is mishka estrilda raine scarlet lyca

[tranquil heron]

yes

[merry depot]

here you wanna use mage supp tank only so estrilda can be replaced by Atalene, lyca with rosa or sum

[tranquil heron]

Ah okay, how much do I need to have them built

[merry depot]

mishka 209e60 mandatory

[tranquil heron]

aaaaaaa

Won't work then

[merry depot]

i mean mandatory for late push

you could try

[tranquil heron]

Floor 150?

[merry depot]

400 would probably work

[tranquil heron]

Wow

[merry depot]

but you won't be able to push with good deficit

[tranquil heron]

Lemme set it up and I'll brb

[merry depot]

meanign floor 400/450 ill be your max

because you will be lackign behind a bit all the time

alright!

I'm currently runnign dims gbs and mishka hodg rowan scarlet astar

hodg works at E+ iirc

[muted umbra]

43b for me with e+ palmer. U did something wrong..

[muted umbra]

Im glad it was useful

[woeful fjord]

Yeah got the last chest using your comps (37b* )

[muted umbra]

I hope its 37b not M and amazing 🤣🤣

[green gate]

For my first try i forgot to lvl up my beacons

[muted umbra]

Yeah someone dmed me that too he did 10b with my comp, but no beacons 🤣🤣

[tranquil heron]

Sorry there was an update lol, are these the heroes I need for cycle ainzbedo and gb?

[green gate]

Same here.....i was like wtf im doing wrong

[tranquil heron]

You see the last guy said I'd be able to make it to 250 yet I got stopped at like 140 and then I had to wait for beacons for an extra month

So now at 150

[merry depot]

No furn on Scarlet, I would run Wolise cycle ezizhless

[muted umbra]

idk about mage... i did so much more progress with sus heroes.. like ezio in dim comp

i feel u can push harder with sus heroes

[merry depot]

What Larry lvl?

[muted umbra]

like 600 level easy f2p

[merry depot]

Yeah but not with budget heroes

You can still push hard with E+ comps tho

Which Is nice

[muted umbra]

i mean its heroes u should be having, but yeah i guess if you are not lategame mage might do better

i have both pro version of sus comps and budget ones

even with budget ones u can hit floor 600 i think

not 100% sure tho

[merry depot]

Yeah I agree

I remember pushing with full E+ comps

So it’s definitely possible but you are much more reliant on beacons

[muted umbra]

yeah the problem is people forget to claim enough

[merry depot]

Yeah

Or they do but too late

[green gate]

Or dont push early

[muted umbra]

thats probably the biggest factor

[merry depot]

I doubt Chaos could have pushed to 400/500 in any case cause he’ll be blocked by 4 teams

[muted umbra]

people are just lazy af

xD

[merry depot]

Understandable tho

Trfit is meh

Especially when you start

[green gate]

Im blocked at 4 teams

[merry depot]

wdym

[muted umbra]

auto battle made it way less of a chore

[merry depot]

Cause your running 15 heroes vs 20 right

[muted umbra]

why dont u run 15 heroes vs 4 teams?

[merry depot]

100% i live this feature

Ask flaw

[green gate]

Yeah and at Floor 325 enemies getting mystic badges

[merry depot]

Shiny stars everywhere

Yeah too hard lol

[green gate]

Someone in my guild wasted 200 rewinds to get from 301 to 335

[muted umbra]

hahahaha

[sage pagoda]

Is there any way to push to 350 with 15 heroes as mage ??

[green gate]

Thats fücked up

[hoary stream]

As mage hell no

[woeful fjord]

My first ever temp rift I got to 520 iirc and I had an Elite Ezizh in my cycle comp

[muted umbra]

at least they reset weekly

[green gate]

True

[muted umbra]

i remember when i only had 3 rewind total

[green gate]

Flaw is using atleast 4 beacons

[muted umbra]

4 beacons is whale

[green gate]

So thats not working for most of us

[merry depot]

[sage pagoda]

Loud & Clear 🥹

[merry depot]

Even with cel gl

[green gate]

And getting larry lvl 17 is impossible this week

[merry depot]

He can’t use Ezizh cause he’s E

[woeful fjord]

Oh I forgot he was Elite+ yeah

That sucks

[merry depot]

I used to run cycle with desira M+20 no Ezizh

Was painful but hey I got to 350

[hoary stream]

I pushed to 701 with mage last season then switched to cel and trust me mage is trash

[merry depot]

Ig chap38 he would be happy to get 350?

[muted umbra]

yeah mage is pretty bad compared to cel

[merry depot]

Next season I’m doing cel

[green gate]

Warrior is meta now

[sage pagoda]

Me to i pushed around 730 las season

But i have to stay with mages since I invested in them

I may switch the next season

[green gate]

Whats ur chapter?

[sage pagoda]

I stopped pushing on campaign

[eternal mesa]

i should push rift

[sage pagoda]

I am at chapter 42

[green gate]

Show ur box

Just the top

[sage pagoda]

I can push to 46 but there is no point to rush

[green gate]

Now im curious

[hoary stream]

80SG is a good reason lol ||no||

[sage pagoda]

& my zolrath is holding me back (mythic tier)🥹

[green gate]

Gaze him

[muted umbra]

my zol is L :/ but im sg veithael...

[sage pagoda]

May be you are right but i got most of heroes i want for now

[muted umbra]

does autobattle in rift stop if i lose a hero?

or no?

[sage pagoda]

I don’t want to waste resources gazing him while i can get him from the store

[hoary stream]

Was joking

[muted umbra]

nvm

[green gate]

It stops

[muted umbra]

damn i love this feature

i used to hate trift

xD

[sage pagoda]

😂

[green gate]

How many chall coins do u get per day ?

[muted pagoda]

i have E+ twins, E+ mortas, scarlet doesnt have 9f as i said: absolute poverty. also you have 40-45 beacons lol.

[muted umbra]

i had 30 beacons

[sage pagoda]

330-350 depends

[muted umbra]

i thought u meant maxed out sorry

[sage pagoda]

Per hour

[green gate]

That means 8.4k per day
Thats rozghly 30 day for 1 copy
And 420 days for A
And im only talking about 1 hero

[muted pagoda]

nah absolute shit-tier account lol. i was saying even WITHOUT investment this got 20b+ so its good.

[woeful fjord]

Waiting for challenger store to ascend celepogeans is torture

[sage pagoda]

🥹🥹

[green gate]

And u want them all what means 1680 day are u sure u wanna wait that long ?

[tranquil heron]

ezizhless you say, so who do I put instead of him

[green gate]

With Flora its 2.1k days

[tranquil heron]

but you can't do that anymore tho can you

[green gate]

But im not counting her

[merry depot]

Do you have desira M +20 ? I used to run that

[eternal mesa]

then i dont understand why mingles said its bad to gaze zol

[sage pagoda]

I have my athalia *5
Orthros *1
Ezizh ascended
Zolrath at mythic

[woeful fjord]

I was mistaken please disregard that

[sage pagoda]

☠️☠️

[tranquil heron]

oh np

[green gate]

Mingles.....

[eternal mesa]

[sage pagoda]

Flora *5

[woeful fjord]

Bad to gaze zol?

Everything is relative

[merry depot]

Or Rosalind works

[eternal mesa]

its was bad because „i can work on two celehypos at once” which is better for f2p

i dont understand why wouldnt i gaze zol tho

[merry depot]

You probably don’t want to gaze him now tho

[eternal mesa]

when hes important af

[woeful fjord]

You can also work on 1 celehypo 2x

[green gate]

Still 1020 until all are 5*

Im just saying

[merry depot]

Do haelus and when zol is M or something like that

[sage pagoda]

I was thinking to stargaze but not i am too late after ascending all of them

I may gaze for 2 - 3 copies to progress faster

[green gate]

Sounds like a plan

[sage pagoda]

Not now *

So it will be half way there

&

[green gate]

Who are u gazing rn ?

[sage pagoda]

I still have plenty of purple & superb stones

[woeful fjord]

So you do not yet have Zolrath at ascended but you manage to get to floor 700?

[sage pagoda]

C & R are 3 copies from ascended 1*

[green gate]

Same here lol

[sage pagoda]

I have the last celestial hero too

[sage pagoda]

Sweet i want to try them both in Trift this season

[green gate]

But my Veithael is at 0 copies

[sage pagoda]

[tranquil heron]

Me or were you replying to someone else?

[merry depot]

Yeah that was for you, other option is Rosaline E+

[tranquil heron]

So then Rosaline, Wolice, Mishka, Lyca, ATalene for the cycle team?

[atomic imp]

made it to 301 with these teams. Beacons at 33

I swapped zolrath onto the Brutus team instead of Anasta for the boss and managed to clear him with everyone alive

[muted umbra]

Oh nice

[woeful fjord]

should I swap to this? I'm doing the Ainz, GB, Solise comps at around floor 270~. All I lack is nevanthi e60

[atomic imp]

The Brutus and thane teams were pretty strong and didn’t use that many retries- the cycle comp is pretty good, but the damage is low and sometimes it timed out or teammates died. I always tried to solve the cycle team first, usually putting it against teams that don’t have burst damage at the start. I had to swap Silas and Nevanthi a few times so that it could face enemies with healing. I think if you have a built talene, she may be better?

If cycle isn’t your weakest comp, then switching might help. I hate starting over from 0 energy though.

Idk what to do for four teams though- I may switch back to mage tank sup for that

[muted umbra]

this comp never needs to do retry btw for cel, its really rare

and u can sub zolrath v

with mishka

[merry depot]

nonono you are mixing up scarlet burst adn wolise cycle lol,
scarlet burst is with mishka Atalene, lyca isnt used cause cel
wolise cycle should be (considering you will use rosa instead of ezizh):
sonja (E+) twins (E+) rosa(wolise) rowan wolise

[woeful fjord]

Yeah my Talene is built now I wish I had gone with this instead lol

[muted umbra]

u can also just cycle lucretia

[tranquil heron]

oh crap, alright thx I will try that in a bit, my rosa is A and same with Sonja actually

[split latch]

Too bad raku and kren sux

[muted umbra]

Luc talene ezizh Rowan twins is what i mean

[split latch]

Yes I know but cele is not f2p friendly lol

[merry depot]

then should work for you glhf

[tranquil heron]

👍 thanks

[drowsy girder]

We have specific guide for this?

[timid shuttle]

Wait until last day

[drowsy girder]

Ah ok thanks

[muted umbra]

I have one f2p friendly that i shared earlier in here

But Yeah wait for last day for max dmg

[leaden sky]

Does anyone have a link to that excel document with all the comps on?

[eternal mesa]

the one in pins?

[leaden sky]

Awesome! Tysm

[tranquil heron]

1. realm of strife, should I do it or not?
2. worth taking the purple badges (dark?)
3. when does the number of teams you have to use stop going up? as in like atm at floor 150 it just went from 2 to 3

[ocean wind]

5 teams is max

[atomic imp]

151 to 300 is three teams
301 to 450 is four teams
451+ is five teams

[ocean wind]

And no, purp badges usually suck

Just stick with usual badges

[tranquil heron]

alright then thanks, and what about special realms?

[atomic imp]

always take the blessings, flora’s dew, and resurrection portals

[tranquil heron]

no no by special I mean battle ones

[tranquil heron]

realm of strife for example

then theres one thats like really hard

halves hp or smth

[atomic imp]

for the purple vs blue at a certain point they have similar power level, so just take the one with the easiest enemy teams

don’t do the one that gives you curses

[tranquil heron]

oh ok

[atomic imp]

Also Gladiator’s realm is usually easier than doing a multi fight

that one is rare though

[tranquil heron]

oh okay

thx

[green gate]

Which pets for ur f2poor teams ? @violet walrus

[eternal mesa]

i need to push rift

[violet walrus]

black ball for athane
fire breather for brutus
owl/white ball for abaden depending on CC
RCL for ASolise

[green gate]

Push lazy fück

[eternal mesa]

yo mama

[green gate]

Thx

[violet walrus]

First 50 floor should be fine

Later on , you will need to shift team around and play with formation

[terse nymph]

Who else is on the floor 300 but can't be bothered trying to push without full teams so waiting till level 17 grind?

[proven arrow]

Not me

333 currently

[chrome vine]

Anyone here past floor 300 with warrior, cel, and support classes? If so, what teams are you using?

[proven arrow]

333, Haelus and Silas have died though

[chrome vine]

Im guessing you used silas on thane’s team? Where was haelus?

[tribal oasis]

I hate you I was catching up earlier

I'm at like 315

[proven arrow]

Used like 50 retries. F2P beacons tough

[proven arrow]

Actually not thane. Haelus with Baden and Silas in reserve for a team that gets stuck

[chrome vine]

@proven arrow Thank you! Yeah, i got f2p beacons too. Its rough