lineup-help

[west fog]

Albedo +5 rn, I see the issue.

...I can +30?

Saving for a Rowan dupe tho so that I can max his SI immediately

[pale kettle]

good idea. while purple emblems are easy to get and Albedo buffs dimensional
Queen having her shield abyility also makes a huge difference

I will probably +30 those 3 dimensional. but when is the question bc others like Rowan also have high priority, same case here ; )

[wraith salmon]

Please. Can someone help me with this. I've asked here so many times and so many different days and no one will help me. Im currently stuck until someone answers my question. I am planning on removing lyca since all she does is give a small bit of haste. I need to know if based on my team (i am planning on replacing saveas with Eironn) Who should replace Lyca: Tasi, or Rosaline?

[marble coyote]

Rosaline, for the faction bonus, in my opinion.

[narrow lark]

What's the ascensions on Tasi and Rosa? Even with the Haste buff, Lyca is very helpful regardless if shes only E+

[scarlet depot]

Help me

[wraith salmon]

I dont have tasi or rosa yet. Thats why im asking especially as desperately as now since you can redeem tasi or rosa with the new event.

[limber raft]

Any advice for this? Been stuck for over a day, only unit to survive long enough to ult is wukong, and even then he is 1v4, soon to be dead

[narrow lark]

Tbh I wouldnt even use the chests unless you're using it for a 4th or 8th copy. I'd just keep working on your current lineup and start working on another carry (Eironn as you said)

[wraith salmon]

But all Lyca does is give like two seconds of haste and instantly die. She doesnt even kill anyone when i use her. Plus i dont have anyone in the chest so i couldnt use it for a 4th or 8th copy.

[narrow lark]

Wait for more exp and level up your Wu kong or put in Estrilda and replace Hogan

[limber raft]

Alright, imma reset hogan then

[narrow lark]

My Lyca dies pretty fast too, but the haste boost is really useful. If you show me your other units It could help me out trying to find a better suited lineup

[wraith salmon]

This is all the elites i have.

[narrow lark]

If you have space, Brutus and Nara in Crystal. They're both very helpful

[wraith salmon]

This still doesn't answer my question of tasi or Rosa

[pale kettle]

@wraith salmon you have so much fodder and savep up stuff
you could easily bring Grez to mythic for example and raise you overall level instead of being stuck / capped like now

[narrow lark]

None, wait until you need your 4th or 8th copy to use the chest

[wraith salmon]

Ok fine dont use the chest i still need to know which one to use when i get one

[narrow lark]

Rosa imo. She works well in the earlier chapters

[wraith salmon]

What counts as the earlier chapters?

[narrow lark]

Well bad wording on my part, but she works well in any chapter i suppose with the right lineup

[scarlet depot]

Can someone help me please?

[wraith salmon]

But would she work well with my planned lineup (Which replaced Saveas with Eironn (And hogan with Gorv when i cap Hogans level))

[narrow lark]

Uh she could. Running
Rowan, Lyca
Safiya, Eironn, Nemora
would have better synergy though

[wraith salmon]

So go Rosaline?

[narrow lark]

Sure. Whatever you want. Both are good options if you're not going for Wukong

👍

[wraith salmon]

Thanks! Also out of curiosity why would it be a bad option if i went wukong?

[narrow lark]

Not necessarily. He is a Celestial so hes harder to come by. But rosa and Tasi are also good options if you're missing your 4th or 8th copy. Same goes with any of the other heroes

[tender mesa]

Any suggestions ?

[wraith salmon]

As far as i understand Switch rowan and Belinda's place in the formation. (If someone who is way better at the game could back this up i would be very glad)

[narrow lark]

Try and see if this works

1. Lucius/Brutus
2. Belinda
3. Lyca
4. Rowan
5. Rosa

If belinda dies quick then yeah swap her place with rowan

[tender mesa]

She stands last tbh

[narrow lark]

Keep frontline then

[tender mesa]

Vedan turns into his batswarm and wipes everything

[surreal lynx]

Im a New player. And in this moment i can not continue 'cause i need update my heros but i dont hace resources And heros. How i get more heros for ascention?

[grand perch]

Hello @surreal lynx,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.

[tender mesa]

Guess I'll need to level them

[narrow lark]

Try
Putting Nemora in 3. Position

Shes pretty nrg but she'll charm Vedan

[narrow lark]

Id say get Nemora to 200 first then work on Belinda to 240

[scenic meteor]

I'd need to push nemora and 1 more to 200 so I can level Belinda

[pale kettle]

Any help with this? Boss brutus is a pain been stuck for a bit

don't have a good nara :/ or an ezio for that matter

[celest sigil]

Would Rowan or Gwy fit better in my team

Alright

[vast meadow]

Do you have Lyca? Try Lyca Rowan RNG or Tasi Rowan RNG

[pale kettle]

I have eironn comp but wasn't having any luck with it

[vast meadow]

I mean Ainz Lyca Rowan comp

[pale kettle]

@vast meadow my heroes

[urban olive]

Can someone help with this stage?

[vast meadow]

I used Ainz Albedo Arthur Rowan Lyca/Tasi/Ezio there. I think you need better tank, Brutus and Furniture 3/9 Albedo is good. Lyca will be useful even in L+ if you get albedo Furniture 3/9.

[pale kettle]

yeah working towards her furn, wish i had arthur but can't get any more frags of him cause the damn dim releases

[drowsy finch]

Any way I could beat 9-20 with my current hero pool?

[onyx ridge]

@pale kettle ty :)

[steel birch]

Hello everyone. I just pushed campaign but my legends arena teams are kinda trash. Can anyone recommend me 3 good teams for defense and/or attack. Those are my heroes.
Dimensonal links: Albedo-Shemira
Ainz-Thoran
Arthur-Antandra
Ezio-Kasos
Nakaru-Warek

[scarlet depot]

Need a good lineup any suggestions?

[dull trellis]

Can it be done?

[pale kettle]

Any tips to improve this lineup?

[wide gust]

Any chance for help?

[spare portal]

any ideas?

[fossil solar]

I need help with this level, been stuck 4 days :(

[stone halo]

me need help

[fossil solar]

I beat it with this ephemeral

[dusky sage]

Who should i run on this boss?

[stone halo]

wait what u actually beat it with 1578k total team power?

[fossil solar]

Yep

[lunar garden]

Any good composition for chapter 30?

[warm swan]

@lunar garden Most of my ch 30 clears are basically Rowan+Tasi+Lyca+Eironn+Fera and just switching out their positions. With the occasional Saf or Nara. Maybe 1 Fawkes.

[wintry sierra]

Any ideas?

[lunar garden]

Thanks, I thought that composition only worked until 29, because in 30 I used Eironn + Safiya but it is difficult to advance

[past urchin]

I salute you for having an A Antandra :)
@wintry sierra

[wintry sierra]

Thanks :P

[warm swan]

They still work. Might need to switch others when you reach multis but as far as ch30 goes, they've been my main.

[lunar garden]

I will try, thank you

[brave oriole]

@spare portal try gwyn, but i would fuse your Arthur with something lower if Rosa won't follow gwyn. The new Agility arti would help vs fawk coffin

[lofty gust]

Hello, can i get a lineup for Boss Kane please.

[stark summit]

lineup for that stage?

[lunar garden]

Gwyneth

Lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Wukong/Saveas /Eironn/Tidus

[tribal plaza]

I keep getting wrecked

[fossil solar]

I seriously hate this level

[tribal plaza]

@fossil solar I feel your pain lol

[fossil solar]

Lamo. They just don't die. I bring them down and they all heal eachother back to full health

[past urchin]

The most cancerous stage since 4 Ulmus/Nemora xD

[charred wyvern]

Can i win if i retry enough

@tribal plaza use the fkin rosa instead of fwakes mate

When we are at it

Remove belinda for lyca

[raven cove]

Can someone help me with this?
I also tried Thoran Cheese but nothing works.

[charred wyvern]

5 sec fight smh

Lyca
Rowan
Rosa
Gwyn
Estradila maybe.

[raven cove]

OK I'll try that out. Hope Mehira doesn't nuke me

[charred wyvern]

I did that with gwyn i tink

Pretty easy win anyway

[valid comet]

No matter the comp i tried i just got slaughtered due to tasi banish. Any ideas?

[charred wyvern]

Remove that shemira smh move rowan front row and put saf behind lyca

[native compass]

Nara in front of tasi can lock her up. Even if she teleport away, if nara does her animation, tasi will be locked

[valid comet]

I hadnt tried saf on this one actually cus she was overkill or useless in most of this chapter still. It worked thanks. Also my rowan needs staff and boots to tank well so he cant always frontline yet either it seems.

[native compass]

I need help to figure out what to do for Legends’ Championship. It’s my first time doing it. Idk how it works and if there is a way to optimize my line up or if there is a strategy

[tepid holly]

Been stuck on this for dayz ^

[wind moon]

Good afternoon, I've been trying for a while to link my afkarena account but it appears a message like I don't have any afkarena account, can I talk with any1 from the support team here? I already tried it on the support in-game but no answer :( @pliant jetty

[warm swan]

Imagine tagging Lilith staff

[wind moon]

I don't know who to tag so 🤷

[warm swan]

You could've read the rules first. And waited. In-game chat supports are real support staff anyway as well.

[wind moon]

Thank you, I didn't realized that ing chat supports are real humans! But I mean , I wrote here just like 1 resource more to find a solution for my problem that's all

[rocky lily]

@drowsy gazelle

[pale kettle]

;(

Someone have an idea for me plz?I keep getting destroyed...

[drowsy gazelle]

Take out arden, put in estrilda and swap albedo with estrilda. Thats my comp for generally around chap20~ish. Just shuffle them around. And to be fair to you. I cleared chap20 with just ainz at lvl200 and others at lvl160. And i dont have albedo at that time which i replaced albedo with lyca or something. You can try

[vocal kettle]

Hali-gali, Everybody!
Happy New year!
Any suggestions?
Too much damage, shemira dies after ultimate in 1 sec.

[astral jay]

@pale kettle reset Lucius 200 level make shemira 240. Try this
Rosa
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Tasi

[pale kettle]

@vocal kettle thnks happy new year too

@astral jay ok thks

[rocky lily]

Hmm seems sketchy lol

[warm swan]

There's #bug-reports although I'm not sure if that is a bug or not. But your best bet is still the chat support. Give it time.

[drowsy gazelle]

I mean you can try, i only got albedo when i hit chap22 or something.

[rocky lily]

I just think estrilda is gonna get one shot before she does anything xD

[drowsy gazelle]

Yeah estrilda is not thr to do dmg or anything, shes thr to kick enemy further which gives more time for you to cast ult. Her kicking niru will make him to take a few more seconds to walk towards your backline

[rocky lily]

Right, but she needs like a second to charge, I can try but I don't think it will work. Was planning to Merc this stage at reset.

[astral jay]

@rocky lily can u send ss of ur roster ?

[rocky lily]

Sure

@astral jay

[pale kettle]

@Ali Hassan#1301 OMG THANKS U

[astral jay]

@rocky lily try this
Tasi
Albedo
Ainz
Rowan
Arden

[astral jay]

Np

[rocky lily]

Hmm okay

[drowsy gazelle]

i think isa will melt albedo tho?

[astral jay]

@vocal kettle can try this
Lucius
Rosalina
Tasi
Shemira
Daimon

[raw niche]

Floor 299... Morvus / Mirael keep oneshotting me through daimons shield... Help...

[rocky lily]

Oh yeah arden doesn't work on the bottom for some reason. Root always fails @astral jay

[astral jay]

@rocky lily change tasi and Arden positions

[vocal kettle]

I try, but Shemira couldn't tank gerzul, she dies.i didn't use Rosaline, because they shots down in the first 2 seconds

[urban olive]

Any help on this stage?

[astral jay]

@raw niche merc a 30 SI rowan

@urban olive try tasi instead of ainz

[raw niche]

And that's gonna help me stop getting oneshotted by 3m DMG Mirael? Lmao

[rocky lily]

I don't think it's gonna work but ty for trying. Ainz just takes too long to ult with the faeral cc

[urban olive]

Im unable to, tasi is linked to albedo, so can't use them both

[raw niche]

My mercs don't have si 30 rowan...

[astral jay]

@urban olive try this
Nara
Albedo
Rowan
Brutus
Daimon

[raw niche]

Nevermind. THIS ONE is living hell

[vocal kettle]

My best result was this. 5/2 Grezhul dies but I can beat the others.

[urban olive]

Still not able to clear, but I'll keep running a few more runs, for better rng

[raw niche]

Something is preventing daimon from getting his shield and it's annoying

[astral jay]

@vocal kettle try Cecilia instead of daimon

[elder ravine]

Yooo I'm stuck on 32-60

[vocal kettle]

Not working, need diamond to defeats grezhul.
Should I switch my artifacts? (I use by a guide. )

[astral jay]

@vocal kettle shemira call Fawkes grace. Brutus Charlice Lucius Charlice daimon call

[astral jay]

@elder ravine u have sent round 3 2 times and no ss of r1

[elder ravine]

Hm the first team works

[raw niche]

Annoying fucks, closest I could get is 1 Thane 1 Atha left... And then they go untargetable and pierce my shield. Seriously, fuck this stage

[astral jay]

@elder ravine use this at 2nd round and let me know if it works
Safiya
Lyca
Eiron
Saurus
Lorson

[elder ravine]

Nvm i somehow managed with random teams

I am a chapter 33 boy now

[spare falcon]

Is there any way which I might beat this now or should I wait till tonight for a merc?

[obtuse harness]

Kinda stuck since I need to ascend my heroes. From what I've read I shouldn't ascend any of them since I don't have enough copies. I'm at a loss on what to do

[spare falcon]

@obtuse harness just raise more blue tiers to L+ and you'll be doing much better.

Also take the levels from one of your E+ and put it in Mirael since she can level higher than 120

[obtuse harness]

I've been doing auto ascend, is that wrong? And I'll try that

[spare falcon]

@obtuse harness auto ascending is always fine. Sometimes you have to be careful with smart ascending though but in general it's fine to do it that way.

[obtuse harness]

I haven't done smart,

Belinda would be the only one I can take levels from, she would be less useful than Mirial for now?

[spare falcon]

As for your blue tier heroes the main ones to focus on upgrading first are Mirael, Arden, Silvina, Hogan, and Saveas.

Mirael is one of the best you can use until level 160 stops being effective.

Best thing to keep in mind is you're probably not gonna use all five. But you're leveling them to boost all your E+ past 120 so they can be more useful to you.

[obtuse harness]

Ok gotcha. Thanks

[spare falcon]

👍

[obtuse harness]

@spare falcon What should I use for pushing campaign in the meantime? Been using Rowan, Damian, Brutus, shemira

[fossil solar]

Any suggestions for this level? Am I too underpowered?

[silk drift]

What can I do to shut Athalia?

[pale kettle]

Do they have a good synergy? (Don't look at levels)

Or this one?

[silk drift]

This one is a no no. Too many tanks

[warm swan]

@pale kettle Overlevel Shem than the rest so she can frontline. Get an L+ Arden to support in backline. Use Nem for the occasional charm.

[vapid field]

Help pls

[shut bluff]

Little help with this pretty please ?

[shut bluff]

I’d say ainz to get the matxh over quickly. I breezed through chapter 20 using litterallt only ainz and super tank front row. Lyca helps wirh haste to get his ult off sooner

And if they have a mega OP damage dealer. I found throwing in fawkes helps to trap their most dangerous player while you get energy up

[fossil solar]

What is best lineup for wizz early/mid game?

[shut bluff]

Wrizz ? I go shemira rosaline lorsan back row, and Saurus cecilia front but I don’t think that’s an amazing lineup but it works for me

[reef ether]

I alwayd liked shamira sarus front row rosaline rowan and belinda or the twins (if u have them) back row for the extra damage buff haste and energy

Any recomendations

[fossil solar]

I'm getting 300mil but I feel like I'm not doing enough

[fossil solar]

Anyone how to beat this cheese level?

[summer cedar]

I'd go for pure damage. no healing (rowan is fine 4 energy), no tanks, just burst them. nara or divers are worth considering too
safi is bad for this stage cuz she gets turned around by totems and her aoe misses the actual heroes

[tepid holly]

I think I beat that with Brutus for nemora

[dusty elk]

I’m stuck on this KT pls help

[fossil solar]

@summer cedar what line up would you suggest?

[summer cedar]

try shem brutus nemora rowan lyca perhaps.

[summer cedar]

post ur box. 15 heroes doesnt make for the best recommendation

[unkempt field]

Need help. VW

[merry thunder]

@summer cedar it’s a bit closer but Vedan wipes me out when he últs

[summer cedar]

try swapping brutus and shem then. shem and lyca should be able to wipe vedan b4 he ults

[merry thunder]

@summer cedar they don’t even get him halfway down 😂

[summer cedar]

by the swiftness of ur response u tried less than 5 times
dont expect these to work first try, esp since nem's charm is rng. I'm lucky to pass a stage with 100 retries

[tepid holly]

Been stuck on this a couple of days, any help would be appreciated 🙂

[fossil solar]

@summer cedar

[summer cedar]

maybe try daimon albedo lyca rowan ainz. ainz and shem do really well on this stage

[fossil solar]

Ok. Imma have to unlink a couple people but will try

[summer cedar]

i suppose you dont need albedo. maybe fera

[fossil solar]

Its cool. I prolly should move them more permanently anyways.

Does it matter stat wise who you link them to?

[bleak bridge]

That was my lineup for that stage. Try it.

If you got all heroes obv

[fossil solar]

@summer cedar they just heal way to fast and with lucius buffs its insane

[tepid holly]

I’ll try, thanks

[tepid holly]

Not sure if it’ll work, I’m running 1x 240, and 4x 200’s

[tepid holly]

Rip

[bleak bridge]

yeah might have gotten away with lvl diff if they were A. scks.

make use of arthur

[tepid holly]

It’s alright, my tasi & thoran’s 8x I’ll get them to A after I get fodder :x I’m still gated by purple dust for 5x 240’s

[tepid holly]

I’ll try that out

Just exchanged for him though, lacking on Silvs & pri’s for his SI

[bleak bridge]

You got ainz at 30?

[tepid holly]

Nah, started 2 months ago. I’m BARELY at one SI 30 on Rowan

[bleak bridge]

oh ok

[tepid holly]

Guess I gotta play the game and afk

[slim sedge]

Can anyone help me on who I should be using to clear this stage

[vivid harbor]

@slim sedge you lack healing. You've practically been brute forcing your way up to your current stage (not a bad thing), but as you progress enemies start to do a lot more dmg. You'll also need more CC (Crowd control), to stall for your team/carry to ult. Arden's roots are an example of CC, and one of the better options pre-160

I'd also ascend Lyca to E+, as you have 2 copies of her and that's just taking up space

[wet zinc]

I think I might just be stuck till I can ascend more stuff and get my heroes up to a higher level

[slim sedge]

Ok yea I have twins and lucius doing healing but it's just not enough

[slim sedge]

So who on my list would be a decent dedicated healer pre 160?

[vivid harbor]

Wukong kinda falls off at level 100, as he gets ascension capped, so i'd replace him with a lyca/arden. I rely on Talene/Rowan for heals, and I don't see them in your hero box

[fossil solar]

Help with lvl 300 please

[slim sedge]

Yea not yet would solise be decent for heals and control right now

[placid osprey]

who is the best tank at the beginning of the game? i have hogan but he is really bad

[vivid harbor]

I have no experience with Solise. But, I don't think she's classified as healer. She's usually referred to as a potential carry

[slim sedge]

Ok so replace wukong and who else with Arden and lyca?

[vivid harbor]

Replace wukong with Lyca/Arden. You can alternate between the two, as you won't be running the same team for every stage, so you'll need subs. I'm assuming that Mirael is your carry, so i'd make sure to have her be 20-40 levels above the rest of your team

@slim sedge How many copies of Daimon do you have?

[slim sedge]

Just the one for now he helped alot in clearing chapter 7 and I have him on WL to get him higher later

[hidden pendant]

although they suck and most of it is copies, what should I replace things with?

[vivid harbor]

He's a really good carry, but generally you only want to have one carry on your team. You could keep using Daimon as a pseudo carry if he works, but a support would work better. I'd focus on Mirael first, getting her to 160 + Legendary+ will boost her performance, plus you can always reset Mirael in the rickety cart and switch to Daimon once you get more copies of him.

@hidden pendant Look at the pins in the #classic-questions channel. First off, i'd rickety cart every hero except 5. You only want to level 5 heroes as you're spreading your resources too much. The rest of the heroes you want to use, you can just place them in the resonating crystal

[narrow lark]

I see the turtle and the Iseballa, have you set up the right wishlist that's listed in pinned in #classic-questions ?

[slim sedge]

@vivid harbor ok can do but will I be fine using just lucius to tank on a grave graveborn heavy chapter?

[vivid harbor]

@slim sedge Hm, I'm not the biggest fan of Lucius as he falls off imo, and he only really works if he's at higher ascensions. If your frontline is getting shredded, then Brutus works just fine at E, as he gets an immunity of 8 seconds

[random hinge]

With these heroes, how do I get past the first battle in the snowy front without losing any? I want to save as many as possible for the final battle, but that oden is really making it a chore to get through for me.

[hidden pendant]

By the way, I can't do anything with the remaining heroes in the rickety cart.

[narrow lark]

If you havent already, use a strong Merc. For that first team you can throw a weaker team do your main doesnt have anyone killed. They nerfed the final biss quite a bit so it's not nearly as hard not in need of a 2nd team for the final.

[vivid harbor]

@hidden pendant wdym?

[hidden pendant]

You said to rickety cart every hero except 5, but the only thing I can do is reset the ones I have leveled up. What can I do with the other ones?

[narrow lark]

Rickity cart is to only reset the heroes that are leveled. Only have your top 5 heroes leveled

[random hinge]

my main team so far has been shemira, lucius, lyca, rowan, and rosa. my mercs are rowan, rosa, and saurus. also, i failed bad against the final boss just a few hours ago, lol

[hidden pendant]

oh, okay.

[narrow lark]

Are you able to merc a strong carry such as Ainz or Talene?

[marsh nymph]

help pls

[random hinge]

i have an ainz of my own...

[narrow lark]

Ah didnt see that. Try him out instead of Shem perhaps

[brave oriole]

@random hinge get a strong Arthur merc

[random hinge]

lol, i suck at making comps still. far, far, far too many choices to consider.

or should i literally just sub ainz into my current comp in place of shemira?

[vivid harbor]

I mean, Ainz > Shemira imo. But, I've never really used Shemira

[fossil solar]

Can anyone help me with kings tower 300 lineup?

[vapid ridge]

Kinda struggling towards the end of chapter 5, any suggestions for a lineup?

[random hinge]

sorry, but i need an explicit comp to try. subbing ainz for shemira, and just changing that isn't doing anything for me. like i said, i'm still no good at making my own lineups, as it makes my head hurt, trying to consider how the different heroes interact with each other.

[pale kettle]

read pins in #classic-questions @vapid ridge

[vapid ridge]

Thanks! Will do!

[wooden hawk]

Hi, i am new and i just summoned and got this, what should i make with them
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/604420093824336053/795019173163565066/Screenshot_2021-01-02-21-00-00-356_com.lilithgame.hgame.gp.jpg?width=304&height=676

[neon swan]

Any recommendation for 25-29?

[pale kettle]

show all heros @neon swan

[pale kettle]

Nara/Tasi/Nemora
Soranus/lyca
Ferael
Brutus
Ainz/shemira
@neon swan

[neon swan]

Ill give it a shot! Thanks

[stone halo]

can anyone help

[wooden hawk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/604420093824336053/795022600669626418/Screenshot_2021-01-02-21-15-49-935_com.lilithgame.hgame.gp.jpg
what should be my general team here?

[pale kettle]

read pins in #classic-questions @wooden hawk

[vivid harbor]

@wooden hawk auto ascend ur units, and what plaque said (ONLY AUTO AND NOT SMART ASCEND)

[wooden hawk]

what do you mean by auto ascend?

[vivid harbor]

go to the ascension place, if you have dupes of a unit (3 for rare/blue heroes), and 2 for purple/ascended units

[wooden hawk]

oh i see, bottom right button

[grim bolt]

Any help with this?

[brave oriole]

@grim bolt maybe lyca back of shem, or front of Lucius

[tardy hinge]

Any ideas for this stage?

[pale kettle]

@tardy hinge u c ould try Lyca for Twins

[tardy hinge]

@pale kettle I can borrow Twins and I should have +30 Saurus tomorrow so I'll try it! Thank you I hope it'll work 🙏

[pale kettle]

I would try it first without twins, with Lyca. And if not work with merc. So maybe u can save up the merc. and maybe u need try some artefakts @tardy hinge - good luck

[grim bolt]

@brave oriole giving that some shots, seems like I could maybe get it with good rng

[brave oriole]

@grim bolt Lucius dura's call, shemira dura's grace or so

[tardy hinge]

@pale kettle I just did and they survive a lot longer so either with Saurus +30/ merc twins it should work! Thank uuuu

[pale kettle]

nice to hear, ur welcome @tardy hinge

[grim bolt]

@brave oriole yep, have those in place

[round violet]

I got some new units, are any of them worth upgrading

[pale kettle]

read pins in #classic-questions @round violet

[past totem]

i need help

[placid osprey]

started playing yesterday any advice?

[dapper oyster]

Hey can i progress to ch 28 with these heroes at this lvl? What my comp should be?

[raw rune]

you can ask that in #classic-questions actually, it's just specific stages etc. should go here

[mild geyser]

you could get to chapter 29 with those levels

[vocal sluice]

Rowan tasi lyca core, then pick two of eironn/saf/fera depending on stage

That could probably get to 30 if you don't get walled by power

[dapper oyster]

Allright thanks guys. What about saurus hes been carrying me this whole time

[vocal sluice]

@faint current used Saurus for the late 20s, he knows more than whatever I can tell you

[raw rune]

Pretty sure he used him in a similar comp, with rowan lyca tasi ferael

[dapper oyster]

Aight thank you very much @vocal sluice @raw rune @mild geyser

[vale stump]

Been stuck here for a few days. Help would be appreciated, using merc is fine as well.

[summer cedar]

brutus albedo fera/lyca rowan ainz maybe

[vale stump]

Yea i been trying saf but she gets boxed. Ainz must be the way but i just get evaporated by athalia and saveas

[cerulean bloom]

Been stuck at this stage for a day now any advice or should i just wait till they are all 120

Thanks to everyone in advance

[vivid harbor]

@cerulean bloom look at the pins in the #classic-questions channel. Decide on a carry first, as you have 3 currently in your lineup (Mirael, Shemira, and Daimon). After you've decided on a carry, you then want to level them 20-40 levels ahead of the rest of your team. Like I was advising someone earlier, I'd go with Mirael as a carry for right now, as shes not only easier to build to legendary +, but can be used as fodder later.

[median terrace]

Hey everyone, hope someone can help me out, i dont really know what the next clever step is, and can i have a better line up? Im stuck at 10-40

[vivid harbor]

You can eventually switch to Daimon once you have 4 copies of him, which will be enough to ascend him to Mythic, and he can carry you pretty far into the game @cerulean bloom

[cerulean bloom]

@vivid harbor but should i keep this lineup eventualy they will all be even

[vivid harbor]

Like late 10s, maybe even early 20s if you invest in him.

No, you shouldn't keep it (But don't use them as fodder). Back when I use to use Mirael as a carry, I'd generally put her in the front because of her higher stats, but the most optimal spot for her is in the back middle. But, Rowans most optimal spot is usually in the middle as well (At least for early game).

[cerulean bloom]

So what do i take out and put in i guess hogan mirael and rowan but what about the other 2 spots

[vivid harbor]

Post a picture of your hero box please, but like I advised, check out the pins in the #classic-questions channel. That Guide has a lot of useful info for beginners

[cerulean bloom]

@vivid harbor thanks for the replies

[pale kettle]

Saveas
Brutus/wukong
rowan
Hogan/wukong
Arden/Tasi/Nemora
for the early ca ~

[vivid harbor]

He's past lvl 100 though, so imo better options exist over wukong

[pale kettle]

I used wu to chapter 10 I think idk

[vivid harbor]

And Np, I'd invest in Arden as his CC is good and it gets better at 141 as he can root up to three enemies.

[timid adder]

does anybody know a good lucretia pvp formation?

[cerulean bloom]

Thanks for the info guys

[vivid harbor]

I'd try running Mirael and Hogan upfront, but for this to work, Mirael has to be overlevel'd by 20-40 levels over the rest of your team. Your backline consisting of Arden, Rowan, and Tasi. If Mirael gets shredded quickly up front, then you could always use brutus

Don't be afraid to reset your heroes via rickety cart. I used to do it a bunch during the early game.

[cerulean bloom]

@vivid harbor thanks :)

[vivid harbor]

Mainly to distribute the resources differently. Np @cerulean bloom!

[robust tulip]

oh wrong channel my b

[median terrace]

Am i in the wrong channel?

[faint current]

A +30 Eironn will push further than saurus can, I ended up using Saurus carry from ch28 until....well, still using saurus carry since I never built Eironn.

I did use Tasi Saurus Lyca Rowan Ferael, shuffling them around as needed. You’ll want Lyca ascended and +20 sig. You’ll get to ch28 just fine, feel free to ping if you got any questions.

[warm swan]

@median terrace Remove that other Numisu in your crystal and replace with Rowan. Your line-up will largely depend on your enemy, though I'm not sure how Izold performs that early. Maybe slot in Arden for the cc. You also kinda have a tricky one there with Mehira and Mirael wanting to be in position 3 for optimum result. But like I've said, might depend on your enemy.

[sly ingot]

Anyone got any ideas on this team? Got me hardstuck I think.

[median terrace]

Allright thank you :)

[mild geyser]

perhaps izold ferael lyca tasi rowan silvina jumps on rowan

[sly ingot]

I think shell just 1 hit tasi but ill give it a go

[mild geyser]

silvina doesnt jump on tasi

[random bay]

Ideas?

[mild geyser]

nara ferael

[sly ingot]

She does :/

[mild geyser]

then change gear

[sly ingot]

She is e+ i dont think I can make it work

[mild geyser]

try eironn instead

[sly ingot]

Team thats made the most success is izold talene / fereal rowan lyca because talene eats the thorins curse but still not even close to getting izold a kill to tank up

Might have to try tomorrow been stalling for misty valley

[warm swan]

Talene, Rowan, Lyca, Eironn, Saf

[sly ingot]

Eironn comp wont work here athalias just 1 hit the backline and frontline dies just as fast

Needs izold to proc but dont think I can get it atm

[warm swan]

Ah I missed the SI on your Saf. I'm sorry.

[sly ingot]

Eironn also only at 25

[upper marten]

yoo dudes im fairly new

Im running this comp and was wondering if anyone can tell me how good it was

[warm swan]

@half agate @golden tide

You both have the same questions so I'll tag you both. Early game, you focus on the L+ tier heroes since they are easier to ascend at that stage. Just like what the pins suggested.

[golden tide]

Okay Sounds Good

[placid osprey]

some advice started playing yesterday. and i have an purple and blue holgen is the purple better?

[solid yacht]

Suggestions for a team for forsaken winter please!

[sand breach]

Any tips to beat this lvl?

[stone halo]

dying too fast

[wraith salmon]

What will give me the best chance of winning in this battle?

[warm swan]

@wraith salmon What are the 2 L relics that you picked?

[wraith salmon]

here @warm swan

[raven cove]

Maybe try
Saurus Talene
Rosaline Rowan Queen

[wraith salmon]

Yall sure?

[raven cove]

Run it on x1 and be ready to restart battle if it gets dangerous

[warm swan]

^
Saved me from typing. Thanks

[wraith salmon]

aighr

[raven cove]

Just make sure you don't wipe. Hold ur finger above pause lol @wraith salmon

[wraith salmon]

So like this?

[hollow tapir]

Please help, where do I redeem the code Persona5??

[brave oriole]

https://cdkey.lilith.com/afk-global@hollow tapir

[raven cove]

@wraith salmon yeah looks fine. If Rosaline links Saurus it should work.

@hollow tapir
Check 1st December #gift-code

[wraith salmon]

If rosa doesn't like saurus what do i do

[raven cove]

Just try it out. Saurus should have the highest rating in the team. Either him or the slightly weaker Rowan will get linked

[hollow tapir]

It worked.. Thank you so much!!!! ✨

[wraith salmon]

So uh rosa doesn't link saurus she links rowan

[raven cove]

@placid osprey definitely check #545929173471068170 or YouTube guides before you progress further.

[raven cove]

That's fine. Just see if u can clear.

[hollow tapir]

Ok so.. I did redeem code Persona5 succesfully but I didn't receive anything... Won't I get my Joker?

[raven cove]

You don't get a character for free. Check your ingame Mail for the rewards. @hollow tapir
Also, this is for #classic-questions

[wraith salmon]

It worked, thanks!

[lunar garden]

3 comps for PvP?

[fickle robin]

Just started ch.13 and feel like I'm not where I should be, any pointers would be greatly appreciated

[narrow lark]

You're level capped so I'd either try to get as much diamonds as you can and hope for the copies you need, or start fresh. I'd recommend reading the pinned guides in #classic-questions

[fickle robin]

Awesome thank you 😊

[stuck trellis]

@sly ingot https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/755345076028178463/image0.png

bit overleveled but
should work with rng

also this one https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/753296207454928906/Screenshot_20200714-165603.png

[gray schooner]

any suggestions for how to deal with this stage?

[mild geyser]

merc a busted skreg

[clever jackal]

reset all your legendary heroes and upgrade your legendary+ heroes to make your level cap higher from 140 to 160

[narrow lark]

You cant reset them and get back the fodder. Which is why I suggested making a new account because they'll be level capped unless their luck is crazy good for Summons

[proven gulch]

Hey guys would I fuse albedo with Brutus?

[stuck trellis]

probably
but albedo with no sig isnt really worth using at that point

forcing her in your lineups will only drag u down

[proven gulch]

Ah okay sounds good

[dire kernel]

just started last night, could anybody give me suggestions on a team?

[clever jackal]

i mean recovering for that is fun and you can't ever get locked in this game so no need for a new account

[final star]

@stuck trellis do u have ch 30 stages xD i don't wanna ping u every hour or so lol

[stuck trellis]

dont have the drive yet

just go ahead and ping me every hour

its my fault anyways so dont feel bad

[vapid field]

Is this do-able?

[fair plover]

I started around 3 days ago and I'm not sure if I'm doing good with my team (my team is the first 5)

[delicate timber]

@vapid field try replacing lyca with rowan and maybe using rosaline, your issue is most likely shemira dying to invade and isabella dpsing

@fair plover as long as youre seeing progress in campaign, youre doing great. id put more levels into your wukong and focus on him, hes super good early game carry. belinda and hogan are also decent options if you feel like using others. that team looks fine though

[fair plover]

Yes yes it's progress but sometimes I need a healer and idk who to use and idk if I have any

[delicate timber]

you have rowan which happens to be one of the best if not the best supports in the game. another unit that you cant go wrong with

[fair plover]

Alright thanks

[delicate timber]

no problem, you want to place people touching him that you want to receive his support btw

[vapid field]

@delicate timber Rowan just gets instad by assassin girl. Shemira actually dies last usually.

[delicate timber]

does your shemira just not do enough damage?

maybe drop a tank for rowan and leave lyca in

since your teams probably just getting melted now that i look

[dire kernel]

can anyone help me with a build?

[vapid field]

By the time she ults usually its just her and luc and they both just die to poison right after.

[delicate timber]

@vapid field try rosaline. get her to follow lucius for shield overload or to follow shemira for faster carry, i could see either potentially working.

[vapid field]

Rosa just gets killed by sylv too. Any mage I have besides Ainz and Shem just get killed on her teleport.

[summer cedar]

brutus luci shem rowan lyca/tasi/arden should be a winning lineup

[versed ice]

who should be in my lineup?

[lunar garden]

Help with 3 comps

[vast meadow]

Stuck

[spring marsh]

Is There Anything Else I Can Do With The Team To Make It Better

[summer cedar]

@vast meadow I had bad gear at the time so this should work for u

[tall wagon]

What's a good example of a "burst team"

[glad citrus]

Anyone got any tips for this stage

[stuck trellis]

ainz
brutus
tasi
rowan
albedo

[wet violet]

Hey guys plz help @wispy tartan @summer cedar

That tiny LB guy just rushed into lyca/tasi and one shot lol

[final star]

Have you considered changing Tasi and Thoran

[fossil solar]

Any suggestions for this level?

[valid pier]

What's the current line up for wrizz and Soren? The guide I found predates the raine update >.>

[stuck trellis]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/676697129049391135/788482156627492924/soren_and_wrizz.jpg?width=680&height=601

@valid pier

[valid pier]

Thanks

[glad citrus]

Anyone got any ideas on how to beat this one

[wet violet]

@wispy tartan @summer cedar what works here? My team disappears in 1s. I’m thinking of mercing a thoran +30 for thoran cheese but I’m not sure

[summer cedar]

unless u have a high dodge carry, u do NOT want the carry tanking athalia. swap daimon and tasi at the very least

[wet violet]

Sorry I forgot this is my positioning

[summer cedar]

thoran 1, lyca 2, brutus 5. but honestly I wasn't very good at the game at that lvl. I usually only respond if I see an obvious answer

[wet violet]

Tks I’ll try this!

[wet violet]

I think this will work with a 30 thoran lemme try to merc 1

[lunar garden]

Help

[stuck trellis]

@lunar garden https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/676700194234171405/786824420529668136/Screenshot_20201030-220105_AFK_Arena.jpg

[glad citrus]

Help please

[marsh solar]

Im big stuck

[livid mica]

Can anyone help me figure out a team or a few heroes to work on for story? If not i understand its not a one team fits all kinda game.

[pale lagoon]

@livid mica 1) stop making L heroes
2) for now i would use:
belinda / Lucius

Lucius / Belinda
rowan
rosaline (if you have her somewhere) / Tasi or Brutus (if need the shield
Lyca (for more dmg) or Nemora (for the Healing)
or
Belinda / Lucius
Lucius / Belinda
mehira
rowan
lyca/tasi/rosaline/nemora

[livid mica]

Will do thank you!

[vast meadow]

antandra instakills rowan tasi, and warek doesn’t cc :(

[livid mica]

So if im reading it correctly I could use lucius, rowan, rosaline, lyca and belinda for example? @pale lagoon

[pale lagoon]

@livid mica yeah, formatting goes like:
backline (top)

frontline (top)
backline (middle)
frontline (bot)
backline (bot)

[livid mica]

Oh i see. Thank you i appreciate the help!

[stuck trellis]

swap brutus rowan?

[vast meadow]

Thanks! My rowan and Tasi are so squishy :(　I passed this stage by swapping Brutus position and Ezizh death → Albedo Immunity & Teleport RNG → Guard Arthur against the Warek throw, for about 40 trials

[stuck trellis]

nice!

[cinder fox]

Hi! I’m really new to this game so could a get help with a general team

[lofty depot]

What artifacts do you use for this fight? I can't even get past Silver 3

Well shit, I did not know this lol

[placid osprey]

can som1 help me i dont know who i should use

[shut bluff]

Try and get your Arden ascended a bit hes good to use until you use him as fodder

Getting massively frustrated with this map. I’ve seen people complete it using this line up... but im slightly less ascended. Any ideas ?

[scarlet depot]

Any good lineup?

[deft plaza]

Maybe replace shemiras spot with daimon. Daimon is a tank, shemira is a mage. She'd be better off on the back lines

@scarlet depot

I'd recommend trying to level the others up more too. At least the tanks so they don't die off quickly. They'd be the main ones to be taking all the damage, so that the backline doesn't receive it

[final star]

Do u mind 30-2 :D @stuck trellis

[glad citrus]

Anyone got any tips

[warm swan]

Daimon is not a true tank despite the in-game classification. He's sort of a hybrid-mage carry. Shem frontline works as long as she's overleveled.

[pale kettle]

Anyone got an idea

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle why your shemira isn't lvl 200?

[pale kettle]

I need hero exp xD

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle I mean you shouldn't lvl rowan and Saurus before of shemira 200

So lvl down them both, make shem 200,then lvl rowan. And a team can be with shem rowan rosa lyca and maybe last one something cc, arden fawkes nemora etc

But i would not play without rowan and rosaline at all

You should be somewhere on chap 21 atm with shem 200

[wide gust]

any chance for help?

[pale kettle]

Not talen?

[brave oriole]

@wide gust maybe swap Brutus and daimon

[wide gust]

ive tried but no luck

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle well, you can use talene if you want front with shemira

@wide gust can your rowan tank front down?

[wide gust]

i think he should be able just abit

he has t1 boots 5 stars

[frail canopy]

any ideas?

[brave oriole]

@wide gust I would try with rowan front, and to add Backline safiya
So like
Lyca
Daimon
Ferael
Rowan
Safiya

[wide gust]

ill try thanks!

[brave oriole]

@frail canopy I would try with nara instead mehira and safiya instead of tasi

[stone halo]

need help

[fossil solar]

At ephemeral what line up did you use for 24-44?

On 24-44, or 48?

Shooot. Its this one

[nova compass]

Need help for good team 1 and team 2. Not changing team 3

[little root]

Anyone got 32-32? second boss kicks me hard

[proud ice]

@little root send your comp

[little root]

antandra insta kills ferael and daimon cant survive long enough, i guess +30 would make a diff

[proud ice]

What are your other heroes

And which heroes is on the third comp?

[little root]

my heroes is this, first comp was the eironn comp

third comp

[proud ice]

Use talene and saurus maybe on the 2nd comp, the third one is the easiest one so you can put more weak heroe there

[little root]

okay ty

[proud ice]

I say saurus instead of brutus and switch position with thoran and either farael or daimon oit instead of talene

Talene instead of farael or daimon*

[tiny kraken]

Is Cecilia worth it? I got a ton of her cards and can easily make her mythic plus, I am f2p and kinda new. Thanks for help

[wintry sierra]

I need help im stuck here

[warm swan]

Not really the first priority on her faction. Is she on your wishlist? Oh, and also, this is better on #classic-questions @tiny kraken

[tiny kraken]

Oh, sorry, yeah I wanted to make her work with Lucius, Belinda, Hendrik and Wukong

[glad citrus]

Anyone got any ideas on how to beat this one or am I gonna have to wait to lvl up

[late peak]

How can I beat this

[gray garden]

am I working on the proper heroes and using the proper ones? I just started a few weeks ago and would like some advice on if I'm using a good team for what I have.

[left forum]

Hey guys, I just started. Which of these heroes is worth investing in?

My luck is really bad and I keep on getting duplicates.

[warm swan]

@gray garden @left forum

For starters, pls read the pins on #classic-questions

[lunar garden]

Help

[left forum]

Alright, got it. Thanks

Ah, I see. So duplicates are good in the long run.

[warm swan]

@lunar garden Try Tasi, Rowan, Lyca, Fera, Saf

[oak patio]

Any advice on passing this stage? And what team should I focus on ?

[obtuse harness]

Stuck on 9-16. Not getting even close. Tried many different combinations. Help please?

[dark socket]

Help 🙂

[pale kettle]

Any ideas?

I've found this popular belinda comp, but idk who should i put in frontline and in backline. Do you know?

Guys I really need help with Athalia (final boss in The Savage Wastes)
I saw youtube comp using 5 wilders , I got the dodge legendary artefact and still cant beat her, Please DM me if you can help !

[summer cedar]

try eironn brutus lyca rowan talene maybe

[pale kettle]

how to position them. Athalia always attacks my backline bottom hero

[summer cedar]

1-5. empty the field and read the numbers on the floor. or, empty the field and tap in the order I said.

[pale kettle]

didint work I dont do enough damage and she just needs 2 ults to wipe my team(ofc I stop the battle before she kills my last hero)

[summer cedar]

actually run shem over eironn.

[south tangle]

Im a little stuck guys anyone fancy helping out. Can't seem to get enough essence to progress

[pale kettle]

she killed everyone..... now I have to restart the entire damn thing

[summer cedar]

then maybe you're not ready for it. it is what it is

[pale kettle]

she has less then 50% hp Ill send another screenshot of my remaining heroes left, maybe I can make it like this

others left: Baden, Grezhul, Twins and Warek

Athaila is low hp I think I can finish her off with a weird comp

[summer cedar]

you could have mentioned ur team was starting at half hp. that's bit of crucial information...

[summer cedar]

try lucius ainz nemora numisu talene maybe. talene 5 to tank the first hit obviously

[spare portal]

@pale kettle add 78877004, you can request mercs if needed

[pale kettle]

Any ideas?

[pale kettle]

I FORGOT I CAN USE THOSE THANK YOU

Im active for hours a day from both my accounts if someone needs an active friend I have 10+spots open 🙂

[fossil solar]

Any help please

[haughty furnace]

Help pls

And don’t tell me about the L

[summer cedar]

rowan 4 lyca 5

[haughty furnace]

So take out lyca?

Like this

@pale kettle y do u lyca in the front she doesn’t belong in the front

Ok nvm it didn’t work

[urban olive]

Any help on this stage?

[prisma spade]

Don’t know how to beat it

[hushed timber]

Any idea for a merc here to use?

@urban olive take ainz out, put lyca in, swap daimon and lyca.

[fossil solar]

Help please

[last lynx]

so I'm kind of at an awkward point now where I have a bunch of heroes, not enough exp, and no clue who is the best out of my arsenal. who should I be using in my lineup? I'm on 8-20 for reference

[urban olive]

Lyca on the frontline?

[hushed timber]

Yeah @urban olive

[urban olive]

Cool giving it try

[fathom spoke]

Hey so I'm new to the game. And I'm right now kinda confused which squad to roll with hard. I started using miruel, then I got a shemira so I thought I might use her instead. Now my miruel got E+. And I'm not really sure on who to use. Same goes for my supports and tanks. I feel like there are many options but I'm confused. Also is there a reasonable way to transition from the crystal into higher levels without having to reset it back to where it was before?

[hushed timber]

@fathom spoke reset shemira; take wukong straight to level 100

[urban olive]

@hushed timber cleared it, thanks a lot! Will this comp work for the rest of ch20? Been stuck in this chapter for a while now

[native compass]

So athalia has trouble preventing fawkes to put Daimon in a coffin. Is there ways to give her more accuracy or another counter to fawkes?

[hushed timber]

@urban olive it should work pretty well, any questions just ask me

[urban olive]

Sweet thanks a lot!

[native compass]

I use a very similar hero pool (my daimon is 220, rest 180) and I’m at chapter 24, you can easily do chapter 20

[barren fjord]

Hi guys , need help to 10-40 T_T

[hushed timber]

@native compass take athalia out, put nara across from fawkes and throw lyca in

[native compass]

You can use nara to lock fareal and try to get more active?

[hushed timber]

Lyca haste will make nara pull him

[native compass]

Then Tasi banishes Daimon, so i’m still fucked lol

[native compass]

You should overlevel your carry, 20-40 extra level. This will help you

[hushed timber]

Lol i just looked through my SS and i was stuck on 24-10 for a long minute

[barren fjord]

Hmm okey

[native compass]

You still have the formation you used?

[urban olive]

That's awesome! Thanks a lot!

[native compass]

I mostly use a combination of rowan, lyca, athalia, nara and brutus. Try stall for daimon! Also you can search for « daimon myth reddit » on google for a nice post in his mechanism and why rowan+lyca is very good with him

[vague atlas]

I'm stuck on 10-4, anyone have any tips on who to use and what to do with them to get past it?

[worldly parcel]

I’d rather not... any suggestions 😂

[urban olive]

Got it!

[oak patio]

Any advice ?

[hushed timber]

@native compass your best bet is to merc someone like a 5 star +30 and make them eat the banishes

[native compass]

Alright, that's what I thought, but the mercs just reset and I only have 1 left but I have a 3/9 +30 5* Farael, so I might just see if I can wait it out. still have 1 week to go before the next mercs.

[fossil solar]

@worldly parcel any suggestions for this level?

[native compass]

Nara to pull Tasi? Rowan or Brutus at Talene's place and Farael somewhere to prevent Thane and Athalia from ulting. With your line up it should be quite ez

[fossil solar]

What lineup do you suggest then?

[obtuse harness]

Any suggestions please?

[raven cove]

Any Ideas?

[peak tiger]

Completely new to the game, close to the end of chapter 6, whats the best team i could use?

[brave oriole]

Try this @raven cove

[fossil solar]

@brave oriole do you have any suggestions for this level brother?

[brave oriole]

@fossil solar it's an weird stage, ive used Belinda back on time, and arden to root athalia Thane. Maybe remove talene, put Brutus front and arden back or ferael

[fossil solar]

My Belinda is not leveled and only legendary and I don't have a arden

[brave oriole]

@fossil solar maybe try
Daimon
Talene
Rowan
Thoran
Brutus or lyca farael I don't know

[small cove]

The savage wastes is hard
All my heroes are half HP and I have only one spring left and I have one more battle after this
Shemira dies before she ults

[lunar garden]

Help :(

[fossil solar]

@brave oriole I could merc for someone

[marsh nymph]

How do I get this izold to survive til ult?

[brave oriole]

@marsh nymph I would pull safiya to cancel the mantra

[marsh nymph]

ok, so where do I put izold?@brave oriole

[brave oriole]

@marsh nymph I dunno this, try yourself. But pulling safiya is the best change. Izold it's lacking some mspd being merc, so maybe just leave him aside and try something else, like shemira or a ghez Merc

[marsh nymph]

I think I'll try a ghez merc. Last week I tried a full maxed out shem but she got one shotted. Thx

[earnest hinge]

Having trouble with the last stages of chapter 24. Genrally rolling with a combination of rowan, ainz, ezio, talene, and some sort of lucius,lyca,eironn, daimon all kinda swapping around

[velvet mason]

Any suggestions? Fawkes coffins ferael and I can get Ainz to ult twice, but can’t quite beat it

[brave oriole]

@velvet mason why do you need Brutus? I would replace with something else, maybe ainz front and Rosa back of him or Lucius back with dura's call

[velvet mason]

@brave oriole I’ll try Ainz in the front with behind Lucius, but Rosa dies to assassin

[brave oriole]

Yeah, I guess so, but rowan it's free if Rosa there

[velvet mason]

Still no luck, best I get is with Lyca behind Ainz

[vague atlas]

I'm stuck on 10-4, formation i used up until now worked like a charm, but when i got to here, it fell apart, any suggestions on who I should use and what i should do with them?

[brave oriole]

@velvet mason Lucius need call, and maybe you can add lyca and remove fawkes, ferael it's not that bad

[autumn needle]

Any ideas on lineups, new to afk arena

[lunar garden]

You can use several compositions, I recommend you read the pins of the questions channel

[velvet mason]

@brave oriole Any artifact recommendations? Ferael is actually the biggest problem for me even when he’s coffined in this stage. He’s the only unit I’ve been having issues dealing with so far from ch 20-23 since he delays everybody from being able to ult, especially when he’s in the middle like that. The only way around it I’ve been able to find is using Nemora to try to charm him or borrowing a mercenary

And thank you for all the help

[brave oriole]

@velvet mason well, put ainz down in your current setup, and then try
With Lucius and dura's call back if ainz, then try with Lucius up back of lyca and albedo back of ainz. Also pushing albedo si to +20 helps a lot. It's not big deal without it, so can be replaced by fawkes maybe. As about nemora no way on this stage, cuz silvina will insta kill

And @velvet mason, shemira may work better than ainz since she can front easy And self heal

[lunar garden]

Rowan with chalice

[velvet mason]

@brave oriole I beat it finally, thank you! I’ll try subbing Shem in in the future, and I’ll push Albedo to +20 when I can

[lunar garden]

Lyca eye

[velvet mason]

Aaand the next stage has another ferael 😅

@lunar garden Thanks I’ll try these out

[lunar garden]

Help *** XDD

[blissful finch]

This is impossible

[narrow lark]

You have 4 dps. I'd throw in some sustain/support heroes such as Rosa, Rowan, Lyca etc.

^ but keep either Belinda or Daimon

[blissful finch]

I'll prob keep Belinda

[proven gulch]

Hey guys who should I focus on next to get to mystic? Thanks!

[lunar garden]

Rowan

Rowan to A

[narrow lark]

Your goal should be getting your 5A first so probably whoever you have or are close to 8 copies. But probably Rowan so you can unlock his SI

[blissful finch]

Its impossible

[haughty swift]

Top 5 are my team , I just wanna know how Im looking right now

[pale kettle]

can u help me about my team i should build?

[warm swan]

@lunar garden The line-up I gave didn't work?

[lunar garden]

Nope :(

[jolly radish]

Pls help D: Still farily new

[warm swan]

Rip.
Maybe Daimon instead of Saf? I would suggest Eironn but yours is too built, he's gonna get banished by Tasi constantly.

[fossil solar]

Any help with this level? I tried all day but no luck

Also I can merc if I need a strong arm

[warm swan]

@fossil solar Rowan in position 2 maybe? And Tasi in position 4?

[humble jungle]

Seem to get very close with my lineup but I've ran it 20 times and gotten close twice. Any suggestions? Much appreciated.

[warm swan]

@jolly radish A beginner's guide is pinned on #classic-questions for general teambuilding and ascension. You might want to take a look at it

[fossil solar]

@warm swan rowan and tasi go down instantly with that configuration

[warm swan]

Rowan got chalice? What boots you got in him?

[fossil solar]

Yes chalice and crap boots :(

[warm swan]

Yeah he's not gonna last with Athalia and Thane in front of him. How about Thoran instead in #2 and Rowan in #1? Or Thoran and Brutus in front. Idk what Talene will do there .

[fossil solar]

He has same build and won with a mortas. I could merc for one

[warm swan]

Wow, is that his Mortas or a trial? But yeah, you can try mercing if you can find one. Well-built Talene would probably work too.

[fossil solar]

Thoran tanking for diamon, brutes will actually hold off thane and athalia pretty well. But once brutes goes down they all come up to daimon and its a wrap

I can merc for one of these 2.

[warm swan]

Go with the safest option of mercing both if you can

[fossil solar]

Bahaha I applied for them both

Who do you think will work better?

[lunar garden]

So hard, I think I need more lvl

[warm swan]

I think it's the si and furn. I can't remember how many times I retried that though seeing as I put Fera infront of Tasi.

[warm swan]

Money on Mortas

[fossil solar]

@warm swan should I pull out daimon, he has 3 mystic furniture

[pale kettle]

This is my team. I will switch the position of Lucius and Tasi depending on the enemy lineup but the general strategy is this:
-Have Lucius tank hits and stall
-Trigger an ultimate
-Chain ultimates and apply as much CC as possible
-Heal and apply shields
-Further stall and let the damage and CC rack up

I managed to clear stage 7-40 with this team and their power was 1.5x higher than mine

[pale kettle]

what merc should i get for this stage?

[pearl zinc]

@pale kettle Nara for mehira

[faint current]

You think just swapping in that maxed out Izold for Daimon would do the trick?

[pale kettle]

umm
would that work?

[faint current]

I feel like if he kills Baden maybe mehira’s MC won’t matter

[pale kettle]

hmm ok

[faint current]

Dart is wayyy better and more knowledgeable than I am. I just think Izold is insanely fun

It might not work, Baden spirits and Numisu totems might distract Izold too long and you might run out of time :/

[pale kettle]

yea, it didnt work D;

[cosmic mountain]

Hey guys I’m stuck on this part of the campaign and I can’t get enough hero exp to make this doable. Any advice on what I should do?

[pale kettle]

Best try. Trying to get 32

[hollow timber]

@cosmic mountain you should spread out your xp among 5 ppl rather than 4, 5 slightly lower-leveled teammates can usually carry better than 4 higher leveled ones, plus you need to get your resonating crystal online which will give you more options later

[cosmic mountain]

So should I drop wukong fro 75 to like 65ish?

[hollow timber]

honestly id just take niru off the lineup completely and 4v5, when they kill niru it gives them 200 energy and charges the enemy's ult faster so you're doing nothing but hurting yourself, keep going 4v5 for a while and pour all hero xp into a 5th team member

[cosmic mountain]

Oh awesome thanks!

[hollow timber]

vedan is a much better fodder carry than niru, so id choose him tbh

just pull him and focus on getting him and all your other fodders to L+, then once you roll some duplicates of elite heroes you can start planning who to go mythic

[cosmic mountain]

I have him

[hollow timber]

sweet, so ya just do that then lol

[cosmic mountain]

What’s the best way to get hero exp when you’re stuck in the story

[hollow timber]

labryinth gives hero xp, you can buy fast rewards as well, but other than that you just gotta wait

[velvet belfry]

i keep getting so damn close and its always the fuckin tasi lmfao, anyone got ideas?

[hollow timber]

frontline ainz 🤢

[cosmic mountain]

Can I reset labryinth I did stage 3 now it’s sticks

[hollow timber]

it resets every 2 days automatically

[velvet belfry]

it doesnt matter if ainz is frontline or not, what matters is that the team gets wiped when its just athalia or thane + tasi left

in fact ainz frontline is the only way rosa survives in this stage

[split peak]

Ainz is not good against athalia

[hollow timber]

have you tried swapping ainz for talene and using another carry?

[split peak]

Try rowan isntead of rosa and maybe work in that lyca in somewhere where she wont get insta killed

@hollow timber talane is useless at e

[hollow timber]

o, i still use her well, but im 4 chapters down so idk

[velvet belfry]

yeah talene wont do much here. ill try working in lyca, ive tried rowan a couple times but i actually had best luck with rosa

[vivid harbor]

@hollow timber Frontline Ainz isnt that bad, especially when you have to deal with Athalia, plus he gains energy faster

[hollow timber]

one thing i do against ferael which might work for athalia/thane is a nemora charm

[cyan solar]

this is the closest i've come to, saveas murders like crazy, i've tried to nara/nemora but to no avail

[velvet belfry]

ive gotten to this point several times with the comp i listed, its really just tasi that gives me trouble if i make it to 3 ainz ults

several times i kill athalia and then tasi + thane kill

i fucking hate tasi so much man

[split peak]

Try lucius at 240 he is very decent at protecting ur nuke type heroes

[velvet belfry]

good idea, ill check out lucius after lyca

[hollow timber]

@cyan solar wild stretch but try:
nara
saurus
lyca
rowan
safiya

see if she can grab him into safiya's zone and nerf him enough for saurus to go ham

[warm swan]

Problem with Ainz getting his energy faster is he stops his Steady Preparations, which reduces his self-buffs. That would not be an issue if he one-shots the enemy, but if he can't, then the problem begins.

[split peak]

@cyan solar eironn to lvl 30 sig is asap

[hollow timber]

@warm swan ive run into that exact problem numerous times, either i full boost and never ult and die, or i ult early for no dmg and die

[velvet belfry]

only reason i have ainz front in that comp is to keep rosa alive, if i can work in rowan/lyca/twins or lucius somehow ill just knock him to the back

[vivid harbor]

@warm swan true, but sometimes you need for him to ult fast if he's getting shredded in the back. I tend to position him in the back, but frontline Ainz works on certain stages

[cyan solar]

nearly there

[split peak]

@cyan solar haha trust me u aren’t u still need 250 ish red emblems

[velvet belfry]

yeah thats gonna be awhile

[cyan solar]

hahah it was a good try but, the other units also do crazydamage, it's mainly saveas who destroys

[hollow timber]

ya if its not one its the other eh lol

[split peak]

@cyan solar try fawkes to coffin saveas

[cyan solar]

this guy?

[split peak]

I am still working on furniture

@cyan solar yes he captures the enemy with the highest dps

[warm swan]

If his purpose on your team is to ult with less dmg and die after, I would suggest a clean-up crew like Ezio. That or invest more in Ainz. He's kinda all or nothing investment.

[cyan solar]

in that case he'd target estrilda, i tried tasi but like.. she only banished the horse lady

[split peak]

@cyan solar tasi and fawkes are not the same

Fawkes doesnt need to ult to get rid of the enemy

[cyan solar]

oh, they don't have the same banish/coffin targets?

[split peak]

Even if u dont use fawkes on this its a goof idea to have him

[velvet belfry]

tasi targets attack rating, fawkes combat rating

so they have different targets depending on the team

@split peak rowan was the key, ty

i had given up on rowan for this comp prior cause of thane but it worked out

[split peak]

Its supposed to be the same but they act differently while in a battle plus fawkes coffins for longer

[stuck trellis]

@cyan solar yo do rowan before eironn

[split peak]

Rowan is a decent tank actually

[cyan solar]

uhhhhh... he's like 17+ rn

[stuck trellis]

yeah save all reds for now, then once rowan is 20 work on getting him to 30

eironn is great, but rowan comes first :cheeringsolise:

[cyan solar]

aye aye captain

[fossil solar]

I have been stuck on this levelast 3 days. Can anyone help?

[faint current]

1/2/3/4/5 Thoran Brutus Lyca Rowan Daimon try that

[limber raft]

Any advice for this stage? Enemy healer keeps the team constantly topped off on health

By the end of the battle, my team is dead but opponent is aht 50% hp

[split peak]

@limber raft stop upgrading everything equally go all out on shem or wukong

[fossil solar]

@faint current this is the best that I got

[faint current]

Unfortunately I don’t know how to improve from that.

[fossil solar]

No worries mate

[split peak]

@fossil solar u shouldnt have 2 220s downgrade one to 200 and the other to 240

[faint current]

You could use Saurus instead of Thoran if you wanna use a Merc, might make a big difference

[split peak]

Get throan to 240 and rowan 200 trust me it matters

[fossil solar]

I can try that. Thanks draggy

[split peak]

Until u have 3 240s i wouldnt recommend having 2 220s

[fossil solar]

Ok. I want sure I asked in the other chat and was told to do thoran to 220

[split peak]

@fossil solar just try 240 thoran no bid deal if it doesn’t help although ill be surprised if it didnt

[fossil solar]

@split peak tried a bunch of times. Its better but thane is such a problem

[pale kettle]

@cyan solar ur not actually 2-2 right?

[split peak]

@pale kettle he is 24-60

22-18*

[pale kettle]

oh lol ok

[timid sun]

im hardstuck at this stage... even my mercanery cant help me here

[vivid harbor]

@timid sun Get Ainz to +20, and also level 200

[timid sun]

im doing +20 rowan now,im 2 more upgrades away

[vivid harbor]

Idk then. I mean Ainz is your carry and I've seen most people recommend for players to get his SI to at least +20. But, I guess you should finish Rowan as you've already invested in him.

[jaunty prawn]

New player no experience. What should be my starting team?

[grand perch]

Hello @jaunty prawn,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.

[jaunty prawn]

I'm good. Checked pins and found a guide on reddit

[warm swan]

Are you talking to the bot? Or are you telling the readers that you don't need line-up help anymore? Or both?

[split peak]

Haha thought the same thing

[jaunty prawn]

I saw the bot haha and then wanted to let people know I found direction xD. I guess I should have just deleted my question lol

I guess i should ask if I should level twins or just wait for more copies

[spiral finch]

Could I please get some help here? My Ainz dies too fast or gets 2 Ults off but then gets liked by niru. I've tried many combos and moved heros around but no luck

Forgot to attach

[blissful finch]

Who should I use

[fossil idol]

Looking some veteran guidance. Was hoping for more copies of sayfa but haven’t got any. Mauler/wilder lineup. Unsure of what I should be trying to do moving forward. Please DM me some advice vets!!

[wraith venture]

Anyone know a good line up for campaign???

[brave wagon]

Does this lineup look good to you? @worthy bane

[dawn lichen]

Need help with this one

[burnt beacon]

I need help with this stage 17-6 the Ogi and Kaz also the Lyca didn’t help with the haste boost. Can I have advice please

[lunar garden]

I need Saf +20 or Fera +30(?

[scarlet depot]

Need some help with this lvl

[craggy night]

need help plz

[urban olive]

Any help on this stage?

[timid cloak]

Hi, any tips on a formation i can build with these heroes, have been running with wukong, thoran, arden, gwyneth and ankhira so far

[urban olive]

Since you're early game, try to L+ Saveas, Arden and Mirael. All three will carry you till mid game, used them till ch18 iirc

Saurus is a future proof unit, he's useful in endgame too if I'm not wrong

[timid cloak]

yea, been thinking of getting saveas and arden but i just keep getting every other fodder except those two

[urban olive]

Dang, that sucks

[foggy fox]

It's actually Not too Bad but I can't beat this stage

[spare portal]

try rosa, shem - lucius, rowan, tasi

[wide gust]

any chance for help?

[spiral finch]

Can I please get some help here?

[violet igloo]

@pale monolith do you have a question ? Are you stuck ?

@spiral finch put Ainz to lvl 240, you only need 1 overleveled dps for your team

[pale monolith]

Its obvious that I'm stuck

[violet igloo]

it's nice when people ask 🙂

[wide gust]

any chance for help?

[violet igloo]

@pale monolith so the problem with your comp is that you don't have a faction bonus, not that's it's compulsory but it definitely helps and is a good rule of thumb to follow. I suppose there's not much that can be done regarding that since you're using Ainz, and not Shemira or Daimon for example. The goal here is to have Ainz as high level possible. You need to put him lvl 220, then 240. If thoran dies too fast, maybe put Brutus in front of Ainz

[teal mulch]

Can u plz gimme best formation ?

[violet igloo]

@wide gust same for you, try and get a faction bonus, see if that helps. Since you're using Daimon as DPS, I would not use Ferael in your lineup, especially that Ferael isn't +30 yet. Try Maybe Thoran instead. Ideally, you'd want Tasi in there but she's not ready yet. You can also try to cheese with Talene.

Hi @teal mulch I strongly recommend you read the 1 page guide pinned in this channel, and also the guides in #classic-questions it'll be very useful for you

[wide gust]

thing is ive tried to get a faction bonus or with talene but nothing works

[violet igloo]

it'll be much easier for you when you can bring Daimon to lvl 240 and other heroes to lvl 200

[wide gust]

for sure working on it but its quite rough the dust wall

[violet igloo]

ideally you'd want a LB support backline (Lucius, Rosa, Rowan,) or Wilder backline (Lyca, Tasi, Nemora) for example.

@wide gust don't worry too much, we've all been hit by the big dust wall it's normal 🙂

[wide gust]

i have LB rowan and wilders Lyca so i do have it but i dont have the means to face tasi she is my main problem @violet igloo do u have some formation that i can try in that stage or its gone?

[shy crag]

Stuck, need help

[raven hare]

Hey guys, I was wondering if I could get some help?

[brave oriole]

@raven hare I would try
Ainz
Rowan
Lyca
Brutus
Fawkes

[raven hare]

Thanks! Trying that now

Still failing, but a bit better than my previius tries

[brave oriole]

@raven hare I would put chalice on rowan or grace, ainz eye, and if fawk dies too soon, swap with lyca

[raven hare]

Still failing but once Ainz could get his ult out, and didn't do much damage even though his chant is never interrupted, maybe I am not powerful enough for now...?

[brave oriole]

It's not this, the enemy team have a 30%def buff from this hypogean mage. Try to see if ainz can Frontline
Fawkes
Ainz
Rowan
Brutus
Lyca

[raven hare]

Okay, thanks

Lol, I get dangerously close when Fawkes survives. It is definitely better. Gonna keep trying my rng

[brave oriole]

@raven hare well, put better items in fawkes and some def artifact

[raven hare]

He has the second best items behind Lyca, I put Grace on him aswell

[calm wren]

How should I link my heroes to? Need som help deciding, so it doesn't become a problem when I need multiple teams.

[raven hare]

Who are Nako and Ezio linked to?

[calm wren]

I'm thinking I'll unlink them if needed. Nako to Luscious and Ezio to Shemira

[brave oriole]

@calm wren maybe link to 5 stars ainz and albedo and lower for the others 2. I don't know who's linked to atm, but you can use as link shemira, Belinda, gwyn maybe since Rosa won't follow, and maybe ghez

Tho, ainz and albedo needed +20 si to be good

[pale kettle]

anyone mind helping me build a team, that can probably last til ch30
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/795653178744897607/Screenshot_20210104-205858_47e34770686d588e926c728cacae2c43.jpg

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle well, i had Arthur, so ainz killed everything, but you can try with Lucius front of ainz and dura's call.
So like
Ainz
Lucius Brutus
Rowan
Albedo
Lyca
Sometimes you will need other heroes like ferael or else, but bscly tanks a lot to get more time for ainz to ultimate. And work for albedo si to+20. I don't know the new dims how are they, but i would try to get an Arthur somehow for ainz team

[pale kettle]

would i have enough cc though? also no faction bonus which is why my current team uses fawkes instead of lyca

[brave oriole]

Lyca haste helps a lot

[pale kettle]

no faction bonus pain

[bleak bridge]

@brave oriole what else you use with ainz, albedo and arthur? Curious to know. I use mostly rowan/lyca And talene

[brave oriole]

@bleak bridge mostly Arthur front of ainz, albedo front on the other slot and lyca, sometimes talene. But it's much better with arthur front of ainz, so after a bit ainz will have 2 tanks front

[pale kettle]

damn fr? what about my investments in ainz what do i do abt that kek

[bleak bridge]

@brave oriole cool thanks.

[brave oriole]

The thing is, it's much easier to chap 31 with ainz

But you need Arthur 😩

[pale kettle]

how about a team that uses ainz? was planning to +20 albedo first, but fera seems really good too. If lilith gives me time, i will definitely get arthur

how about a team that uses ainz? was planning to +20 albedo first, but fera seems really good too. If lilith gives me time, i will definitely get arthur

[raven hare]

@brave oriole after dozens of tries the rng finally paid out!! Thank you very much for the help 🙂

[brave oriole]

@raven hare np👍

@pale kettle if you want ainz, definitely albedo +20 si

[pale kettle]

and does arthur have a SI requirement?

sorry for the ping, but whats the positioning for the team? like who should be in front and who should be in the back

would eironn be in the middle of the backline? for triple pull

why would daimon always be a part of the team?

thought eironn is

does rowan need t2 gear before frontlining? because im using him as a tank rn and all i can say is that he doesnt last very long. whats KT?

was afraid of doing this since he might have more combat power than my carry, which might cause problems if i use rosaline rip

and what would be the artifacts on everyone? i assume call on rowan and tasi?

[brave oriole]

Daimon dps is good also if you Gonna use eironn team

Even m or m+, will be okay with +20 si

[pale kettle]

would it last in chapter 27 tho

[brave oriole]

I've used in chap 31,so yes

[pale kettle]

now i see why the team works wth
..

[worn pilot]

Hello! I am still quite new to this game and need help on a line-up that can beat 9-36 in Campaign as well as Tower Lv110.

Here is the lineup that seems to be having the most success (down to last enemy hero at half hp, time run out)

And then here is my collection of heroes, which I am kind of lacking in as I need Rowan and other heroes. I also know I made a mistake not waiting for enough copies from E+ to L+, but I didn't know this when I ascended them.

[urban olive]

Any help with this stage?

[brave oriole]

@urban olive I would rather put Brutus upside and Rosa front of daimon
So like
Lyca
Brutus
Rowan
Rosa
Daimon

[raw niche]

Any counters for Mirael? She's an ass
For some reason when i use Lyca with a carry they don't get banished so she's kinda must there... I guess
But Mira hurts like hell

[brave oriole]

@raw niche you can just use shem and daimon together and Brutus front down.
Try
Shem
Rosa
Eironn
Brutus
Daimon

[past urchin]

You could always try Eironn to displace her.

Yup.That :)

[raw niche]

Without my boy Rowan? Damn okay

[brave oriole]

You can try, then if anything put shem front, remove Rosa and add rowan back of shem

[worn pilot]

I posted a question for lineup help above ;(

LoneWolf plastered his below mine xD

[raw niche]

I should mention that most of my heroes get oneshot because they don't have upped gear, like Rosa and Eironn
Eironn gets interrupted by something

[worn pilot]

Exactly my problem, except maybe 2-3 shot mostly.

[brave oriole]

@raw niche well, then add lyca for eironn to be successful

[worn pilot]

Please excuse my repost, it got hidden by recent lineup ques

[mystic hill]

Just got back into the game after not playing in forever. Who should I focus on for my team right now?

[worn pilot]

I'm not sure how to make this stage work

Sorry, didn't mean to include two healers in that lineup, but nevertheless, I still have a hard time

[raw niche]

I did it with elite talene front and L+ Cecilia middle back
Wierd how L+ seems to be good sometimes against Ascended heroes

[worn pilot]

Those are sadly not an option for me, Celestials are too hard for me atm

[brave oriole]

@raw niche yeah, Cecilia it's good vs such dps heroes, like mirael Isabela ferael shem etc, if she can cast the circle, ofc

[worn pilot]

Well, is there any way I can make a lineup work with what I have?

[brave oriole]

@worn pilot you need a better wishlist, check the pinned guides, you need badly rowan rosaline etc

[worn pilot]

Already have wishlist

[brave oriole]

So i dont know, shemira it's okay Frontline, maybe with dura's grace artifact, Lucius need dura's call, but sometimes need something front of him. And you can use anytime one hypogean hero, even if low, it will give you 30%def. Lyca haste skill it's also good to have

[worn pilot]

I figured Mortas would be good to use, I unfortunately missed out on Lucretia by one day.

He's my only Hypogean (can't believe I missed Lucretia).
Let me give that a try

[worn pilot]

I have Tasi in my lineup because she's effective in stalling the assassin Silvina, distracts her then TPs away

Am I correct in utilizing her in this way, as well as for her Ultimate?

[hard bridge]

Can I get some help with my lineup? I'm stuck in chapter 8-28 and have no idea how to build my team.

[worn pilot]

@brave oriole thank you very much!! Mortas + Artifact swap worked, cleared the stage with 5 alive for over half the battle, then Lucius tanking + protecting Shemira.

Appreciate the help!

I tried Mortas before, but apparently the artifacts seem to make a huge difference

[brave oriole]

@worn pilot as about your whish list, I would replace Thane with Belinda, and maybe Brutus with vurk. Then later once you ascend them, you can put the others in your wishlist. Lorsan it's not great, only need one elite for a while, nemora or Pippa would be better instead

[worn pilot]

Got it.

[brave oriole]

@worn pilot and gb, I don't know which you have, but ferael shem daimon Silas nara

[worn pilot]

Yes, I want to put Shem in there so let me fix it

[echo stirrup]

what should I be aiming for with this selection? I'm in ch23 now and getting pretty stuck when everything kills me in two hits

my main team is usually Ainz/Albedo/Rowan/Lyca/Brutus, working to replace Brutus with Thoran

[worn pilot]

Thanks a lot for the help, Xperta. I just got out of Chapter 9

[pale kettle]

Some hints?

[mystic hill]

can I get help with team building?

[hushed timber]

Their damage output is just insane dude

[marsh nymph]

help pls, the ezizh is annoying me

[brave oriole]

@marsh nymph call on eironn should help

[marsh nymph]

oh yea, lemme try that. Also, should drape or call be on daimon?

[brave oriole]

But if you want to work better, call eironn daimon, chalice rowan, also you may put lyca on Brutus place and ferael back of lyca

[marsh nymph]

ok thx for the advice

[brave oriole]

@marsh nymph as about daimon, for me it was always call on him and tasi

[marsh nymph]

alr, also, chalice on rowan rn, or if i have an extra call should i leave it on him?

[brave oriole]

I would not use more than 2x in a team

[marsh nymph]

does it affect something?

[brave oriole]

Yeah, the stats of the artifact or so

Diminish the stats having more than 2

[marsh nymph]

oh rlly? Thx for telling me. Was nvr bothered to read the skills besides its actual effects

[brave oriole]

Very rare I put call on rowan, when he needs some magic resist, or his ultimate is vital to stun something faster, but very rare

[raw niche]

Me again sorry
Is it just me or thane has no bloody counters?

[brave oriole]

@raw niche not sure, try rosaline with some decent gear instead of Brutus

If not works, maybe shem front of daimon, remove numitsu, and put ferael back of Brutus

[worn pilot]

Thane is very annoying. I sometimes lose due to running out of time because he heals himself and becomes immune as he does so

[brave oriole]

With a right tank, like Lucius, he's very easy to counter.

[raw niche]

I don't wanna use mercs yet

[brave oriole]

@raw niche I didn't said so, just use what you have

[worn pilot]

I do use Lucius, but I end up with him and Shemira being the only 2 left and Shem doesn't kill him in time

[brave oriole]

Shemira need rosaline as support mostly

So this way she can double ultimate

[worn pilot]

Which brings up a question: the event 7 day check in where the final reward is a Hero Choice chest.

Rosalina or Wu Kong?
I'm thinking Wu Kong because he's Celestial, but I really really need Rosaline. I figure I can just get her with luck from summons

[raw niche]

Shemira is like paper on this stage, the only reason I'm this far is because daimon is overly broken and he can't be damaged in his bloodshield

[brave oriole]

@worn pilot wu Kong it's not big deal, get something useful, yeah

[raw niche]

I usually wait for whoever 8th copy is useful to me

[worn pilot]

Wu Kong isn't as viable later on, correct? Rosaline will be useful for much longer?
Therefore the choice here would be to secure myself my first copy of Rosalina so I can utilize her with Shemira?

[brave oriole]

@raw niche honestly, try instead of shem in your current pic setup, arden or ferael then

[raw niche]

I don't have Arden haha, he's food to me

[brave oriole]

Try an elite arden I don't know. He would 100% root both

@raw niche it may help with call on rowan also if he can stun on time athalia and Thane there

[robust forum]

Any ideas on a better team for this level?

[brave oriole]

@robust forum not rlly sure how good is gwyn here, maybe try to find a daimon team with rowan lyca eironn tasi

[robust forum]

Alright, I’ll try that instead. Gwyn Comp is just one of the teams I cycle through when I get stuck. Thanks!

[brave oriole]

@robust forum well, ferael is great for this stage also. Would stop athalia from ultimate too fast

@robust forum try for a sec
Lyca
Talene
Eironn with the new arti for Agility
Rowan
Daimon

[wide gust]

any ideas? even tried a merc and no luck

[brave oriole]

@wide gust a good merc for this, I mean a tank, would be a strong Lucius with call

[wide gust]

any other way without a merc?

[brave oriole]

But try for a sec, thoran vs Thane and talene front of daimon, no lyca it means. Then try with lyca and no ferael

It's just, every tasi stage is bad cuz she banishes your carry

Since you have one overlvled hero, it's bad

[wide gust]

yup

[robust forum]

I’ll try all your suggestions, I just don’t have that artifact yet. Thank you!

[quartz pollen]

Can someone help me ? Vandan kills me all the time

Those are my heroes

[valid coral]

Finally got to 31-4, and getting my ass kicked, even with my main lineup. Second battle sounds easy, but this one is hell. Any suggestions?

[brave oriole]

@wide gust is your lyca geared? You may trick tasi with lyca 220 if you can reset something for dust

[wide gust]

she has good gear not great she is 294k atm

[brave oriole]

@valid coral the best team I've seen around it was rowan tasi front, safiya eironn ezizh

[wide gust]

but on fera i have very good gear

[brave oriole]

@wide gust not sure if will banish ferael at 220,but you can try both, lyca and ferael at 220, with blade or eye to see if daimon get free of tasi banish

[valid coral]

Thanks, I'll give it a shot!

[brave oriole]

@valid coral call tasi and eironn

[wide gust]

i will have to remove some of daimons gear then since he has really good gear even t2 weapon

[brave oriole]

Nvm this, it's about the first seconds only, lyca usually does more dmg on start

Used to put lyca in when Belinda couldn't do much cuz of tasi and always helped with blade, to free Belinda

[sour panther]

Anyone help with a lineup please