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30330 ig
so should i focus on Naroko sig now or someone else? I only have Ivan sig 30 atm
Aight thanks
I need 4 teams for campaign
Lyca or Safiya passive prefered in this comp?
isnt safiya useless without her skill
these athalia waves are killing me
- help? tried formations already
does lib do anything there? if not then put ashem in or something, maybe even try Emilia
used a merc to get past it, rem would keep dying at the end leaving ivan on his own
on double mehira now tho
Any recommendations for a solid comp?
should i switch oden with simona? any other changes? (chapter 9)
i mightve been the one who told u that comp lmao 
Careful, if any CS actually visited #lineup-help they might be mad 
nah havent seen anyone here besides Jacko 
unless someone snitches and pings a certain CS
Not sure why this stage is such a pain. I've copies multiple formations from others who's heros and gear are lower stats than mine yet I get wiped Instantly. Makes 0 sense. I'm out of ideas because fawkes removes rem from the fight until the rest of my team is dead. Below is the formation I copied.
just auto battle it and it'll win eventually or you could disable fawkes with Nara if u have her
I do have her, and I tried that formation and it also got insta wiped, but why would auto battle win eventually?
Need help for this stage second battle is easy just need help for first
ah welp, I'd autobattle it and hope it gets cleared with less than 1000 tries. Maybe try Rem on p5, when Ivan ults Rem it'll cc Ranger dwarf dude infront of fawkes and Rem will attack Fawkes. If ivan cant ult fast enough then put in Thoran cos Atheus doesnt provide energy to Ivan fast enough cos of his shields
Jerome and Lyca instead of Thoran and Nara ig, idk why you'd need to hook Tasi when shes 'immune' to cc
just get 220 RC, levels are always helpful
Well i just won with nara by literally swapping Brutus up top to tank for rem, but now you've got me very curious with your talk about atheus providing energy to Ivan, i have no idea how he would do that, and I suppose I just don't fully understand then how energy works in general besides attacking people.
much easier said than done
you are at the AFK part of the game now so just chill, you'll beat that eventually
Ivan has a skill where he can gain energy if his teammates gets damaged/lose health. Because of Atheus' wood shields he cant get damaged cos the shields negate those dmg, so you have 1 tank which will provide Ivan with about half energy bar (500) and Atheus who will soak dmg but wont provide energy
you should use Ashem > Thoran instead of Atheus in most stages where u need more burst (through early Rem ults) than tanking
you can read Ivan's skillset, I forgot which skill it was
Ah ok, thanks for the explanation, that does make sense, though Atheus is pretty much always a beast in most cases I guess he isn't always the best. I would love to have an Ashem but Lillith hates me and 50 time emblems and 70 rolls of 10 haven't gotten me an awakened.
he can ult as early as 3 seconds into the game or at 1:27 with Thoran and Brutus as tanks, if u use Atheus it'll take a bit more time
Ashem is just a better thoran but shes not needed for the strat. They work basically the same - provide energy to Ivan and tanks dmg - but Ashem gives all teammate a cheat death so shes better. Rip to your luck though
Does burst help against comps like tasi or fawkes or brutus? Or do I just always slot in Nara for that?
I've always preferred the 'Bursty' version of the rem comp - Brutus, Thoran, Rem, Ivan, Lyca - than the 'CC & Tank' version - Brutus, Atheus, Rem, Ivan, Nara. I find the burst version more reliable than the CC one. Burst is amazing against the enemies u said, Brutus is sometimes an issue though but there are cases where he doesnt use his invulnerability skill (might be due to him using another skill atm, im not sure) and Rem just survives his immune phase due to her having to walk to him which is a few seconds (this is if shes placed a t the opposite side Brutus is on). The burst version isnt universal though, in 2 of my alts I had to use Atheus (not Nara) for more tanking but this was on rare cases (like less than 5).
TLDR: Burst is really good against the enemies u mentioned
How is Thoran burst, Lyca I can understand, but Thoran never seemed to do much but res himself and charge his sword for 4 seconds
Oh its cos of the energy thing I mentioned. Faster Ivan ult = Faster Rem ult
even without si30 Ivan i think. might just be me being biased
Ah I suppose that makes sense. How important is SI30 Ivan, Ive seen mixed messages some saying take ivan to SI30 asap others saying dont go to SI30 until you have 300 red chests
you can do both, you just have to get him to si30 asap. his si30 (if u didnt know already) gives the hero he's possessing 100 energy per second
- the energy Rem gets from getting dmg and dmging/killing enemies, a fight should last less than 10 seconds unless they have dodgy enemies (Kaz, Vurk, Rangers in general) or brutus
I would love to do that, and I would love to get his furniture, unfortunately I haven't gotten any advice on what to set the remaining 3 of 10 slots of my furniture wishlist so i dont waste a single pull
so I've done nothing lol
i think i remember u asking that?? lemme see it ig
I have Oden linked to rem but I figured he wasn't high prio over the eventual Ashemira I pray to roll
Jerome + your first woke should always be there so you really only have to think about 1 hero
you could put in your closest hero to A that is high prio
if u wanna play it safe then putting tamrus is good
I have 1 copy of daemia but not sure if shes like liberta, and I have 1 tamrus
yea none of those guys are high prio. Scarlet is only used in NC and tower, Eorin on tower (NC in late game) Silas is decent but not high prio
I have 7 numisu but I figured hes irrelevant being mauler and all
Daemia 9f is very amazing, it allows her to set up a skill i forgot the name of - if allies damage enemies then she'll also dmg them - its very good for burst teams or just for extra dmg overall
id put whoever for now maybe Dae, just so you can pull furns now
unless..I spend a grit on numisu or eorin into my 1 Atheus? Or is that a royal waste?
nah wait for a few more copies. he'll do the same thing he does at E when hes at M+ but better
ok so ill slot Ashem Daemia and Jerome
yeeep, hope you get 3 rem furns back to back to back
yeah we'll see, ill let ya know if anything wild happens. Thanks for the help.
I got 2 mythic furn for rem so I think you were close enough.
ah rip, 1 more and allies would have a cheat death
still good though, 1 out 10 chance after all
well I have a red card, and the guide does say to use 1 card to get her from 2->3 furniture but no more than that.
id save it for a woke or a high prio like alna or something
I think I will, since my mythics were dupes
you cant get dupes if you're not at 9/9 yet.. u can still use that 'dupe' most likely
they are the same type of furniture so i cant put them together,
weird
unlock more rooms
ooh yea thats why
Can I get suggestions for 3 formations? And if possible 5 formations
What formations to use for pvp?
hey guys who should i use on campaign please
these are all the peeps I have, what's the best campaign team I can make, in your opinion (I'm currently on ch 9)
abrut, thoran, ivan, lyca, silas ig
stop ascending heroes to L. Read the =guide, bottom left part
extremely late but - daimon (your only decent tank), ivan (flight coll), silas, simona (carry), oden ig. Dont pull draconis btw
Also extremely late but don't bother with arena yet. I'd wait for the people to quit and for box to get bigger but if you really want a comp then use Bronn, Naroko, Ivan, Simona, Villanelle
How do I make my comps 4 and 5 better?
Here's my box
Just picked up Rem for the first time at ch39 who should I be looking to team up with her for kings tower?
Full A+ list
Yea I learned that a little late lol but I can always revert them if I need to
you can't turn them back to E+ tho
Eh that’s fine
Yeah. I guess. But you're gonna need fodders to ascend heroes so it will take a while to save up for them
Yep but can’t change that now so no sense in worrying about it
Yeah
copium basically
cant help cos your box is VERY old, its ancient. her team is usually : Alna, Rem, Daemia, ASaf/Alyca, Ezio/Naroko - though, this is for pvp. A cheaper version of the comp is Alna, Rem, Shuna, Naroko, Daemia, also for PVP. If you want a PVE comp you can use Raine, Jerome, Palmer, Ivan and alot more I forgot about. Best one you can use is the pre ch31 version : Brutus, Atheus/Thoran/AShem, Lyca/Nara, Rem, Ivan - it might be powercapped though and you dont got other better subs since the tanks and flex supp in that team is the best u can use, however you can experiment with the heroes u got.
TLDR : Ancient box so we cant help much, its better for you to figure things out on your own
How did you get a list like that i wanna see my list
!guide
=guide
Currently stuck here at 33-48. Any suggestions?
use libcharm to free up Daemia and Tamrus for other teams, maybe even Atheus
It’s a website called afkcalc. I can link it or you can search it. Super helpful!
Dang you are very consistently helpful, go you!
I try my best 
thank you!
Help pls
Hello @granite nimbus,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.
which of these two mages should invest for this comp with these supports?
^^ nothing to do with the enemy comp btw just asking for my comp
uh actually which ones are charms? tried mehira but i haven’t built her
Too lazy to explain charm all over again so thats what u get
that’s perfect thank you very much
Libcharm comp requires : Liberta si30 and 1 copy of Mehira minimum + fillers. Fillers could be 2 tanks up front (Brutus, Atheus, Thoran, L Ashem) and 1 Support, usually Rowan, Lyca, Rosaline (any energy giving supp). Mehira has to have the lowest HP so Liberta ults her and gives her energy to CC the enemies constantly that they cant do anything beside attacking each other - also from old me
I would like to change my formation, what you suggest? I’m at the start of chapter 12
whats your current one?
if its still working then no need to change it. If Naroko is just dying then replace her with Thoran
I got stucked at campaign and tower too
ah, probably just Rem issue or level issue
Oh
you dont really have a carry at high level, your heroes are evenly leveled and thats kinda bad. You could try using Silas, Daimon and Lyca - sub out heroes, experiment on your own and see what works
Scarlet
false. Invest in Simona
y’all ik im supposed to be only investing in fodder chars til 160 but this shi hard asf 😭 can’t i just use my op chars LOL
thats a dog sh team
it’s from the noob guide bruh 😭
fodders are meant to be placeholders for RC not heroes u use in campaign
RC?
Resonating Crystal
oh i don’t have enough slots for a full team
send whole box, ill try to help
yea cos you're meant to level fodders once you're capped not before
you level them up so you can get past lv120 or E+
You dont have a decent tank so use Naroko, Daimon, Villanelle, Simona and Palmer ig
i was boutta say how tf y’all grind with this shitty team 😭
we dont lmao
makes sense. so what do i do? revert the fodder to those units or do i wait til i have enough coins for a full team
reset them. you'll get the diamonds back pretty easily
okay thank you
Dont level heroes evenly btw. Level up your carry (Simona) 20 to 40 levels higher than the others
so hyper invest
yk i was playing the arena thing and they baited me bruh. they had level 1 chars and like a level 80 scarlet and it just 1v5 my entire team 💀
idk what that means but iguess so
yee cos levels are really OP early early game - it doesnt matter as much to tanks and supports but carries need it badly
looks more grindy than afkj tho i’m liking it. I still like afkj better but it’s refreshing to play this game right after journey
thats just the early game part from my experience. You get tons of stuff to do in the form of Peaks of Time, Tower, Guild things around ch16+ or when Rem goes crazy. You unlock so much stuff to do its insane and then it slows down alot once you're at ch31
im guessing after ch31 it’s basically dailys and climbing ladders
yeaa, the focus then is more into TS and building your 2nd team for campaign - u still have to do Towers and stuff too
something like this @queen harness ?
not Nevanthi, use Villanelle instead. You already got Naroko and Palmer as healers
you could get Simona to lv100 as well, dust and exp might be an issue though
im capped at 80 rn
ahh that’s my bad
oh nvm i’m not i’ll have her up to 100 by tomorrow
so like this
u should be able to do it in a day. I got mine to 100 first day, ofc I know what Im doing already so that played a huge role
yee, you can remove Palmer for someone else like Ivan when you get him
okok tysm for ur help
anytime
should i replace my palmer with silas?
yea sure. you'll get faction buff
oh wtf i got rosaline same 10 pull
useless maid, not worth celebrating tbh
WHAT IS HAPPENING
you dont just click the auto thingy??
no i like the build up 😂
and now you've used all your luck for the year
who should i replace her with then
raine is the other option, both are not as used
you do get free raine copies though, i think you can get 2
not in the 7 day thingy, from campaign rewards i think and Peaks of time
ohhhhh nice so might as well put raine in then
and Shemira - I got lucky with alt and grit her to Ivan and now I have enough to grit her again lmao
WTFF IS HAPPWNINGG
you should get banned for that
2 triples back to back is insane. Now you've really used all your luck for the year
just did a single pull 😭😭😭
both including lady simona too 😭😭
<@&545792117956673538>
oh shit, I DINT THINK IT WOULD DO IT HOLY HELL> IM SO SORRY
LMAO
maybe u should not be flipping all at once now 🙈
that’s the secret sauce. gotta build up LOL
please dont ban me

nah ur fine ur the best trainer in the server
they wouldn’t fire their best player 🫡
nah, I dont believe in that stuff, gotta flip all so I could see all the amazing green heroes I got
https://www.afk.global/tier-list is this reliable source

looks decent enough
NOO PLEASE DONT. I looked at the site for a second and you appear threatening to ban 
It was an honest mistake sir
no need for the hammer

Too late buddy, you did the forbidden thing 
Jokes asides, first time Discord mobile sends me a notification earlier than an hour after it's happened and it's for a mistake 
will never happen ever again good sirs 
You shall now hit pity on every woke pull from now on
I changed my mind, I'd rather get banned
(please dont)
thanks for thé tips @queen harness this team has been a blast so far

You should merc AAthalia from someone, it makes Peaks of Time easy as hell (same with Labrynth and guild bosses)
merc Athalia? wdym
I mean borrow her from someone, either through short term mercs in friends tab or borrow her from your mentor if you got one
ohhh okay
Been doing this lineup for a while (from chapter 6) wonder if there is something i should switch with or (i dont have any issues with passing trough just asking for general tips)
I'd replace Mishka, Rowan, Eorin with Daimon, Lyca and someone else ig. You're not struggling cos of your level deficit (22 levels) you really cant struggle if the difference between your heroes and enemies level is that low. You can keep rolling with that comp if its working, I highly doubt it'll work in higher deficits though
Fix your wishlist my guy, copy the one from the =guide
i have exact this one xd
your box is looking hella weird so I thought u had the default one
random celestials from 10x pulls, 2x mishka from 60 elite stones etc
ah I guess you were just that unlucky
Yep. Got Rem now from garisson so it's gonna be fast forward to like chap 20
for that you'll need an Ivan copy at least. I wish you luck ig
and my recruiter role 
Ur recruiting for Exodia now? 
guildmaster quit a long time ago so no new players are coming in, gotta fill up the spots somehow
Interested in taking my alt? 
im sure you have alot better options but sure - just a deputy though lmao not the master
eh my alt is pretty casual, Exodia does get white chests right 
yee I think we get the 1k one every week
Ok be on the lookout in like an hour 
Who should I grit? Have 16 days left with 4 uses left. Was planning gritting out Eorin
Id save. You dont have any good options
😭 ok, thanks!
thats a good thing, dont get me wrong
on second thought, you can grit Anasta or Numisu to Naroko
I was thinking of numisu - would that be better? I feel anasta helps a lot but I don't know anything
both are bad but Anasta is the better one of the two
ask in #classic-questions next time cos no one really comes here and np 
Ahh will do!
Any tips on this wave feel like I have tried every line up
simona may be too weak, Ivan should ult her
Just got Rem, how to use her
=gitgud
usual comp is Brutus, Atheus/Thoran, Rem, Ivan, Nara/Lyca
@queen harness bless me with your knowledge please
Can’t get pass tower 300
Any recommendations? For line ups
literally just used my campaign comp which is Brutus, Atheus, Rem, Ivan, Lyca and Black Ball - use Talismane if u got him - in my alt
got the same level as you so you shouldnt really struggle
I'm looking for advice on two teams, for now I rock these but it's not really good, any advice ? (I'm playin on companions)
Is this an effective team for campaign/King’s Tower? Early game, chapter 17
Restart
thats companions lmao
ask in #companions-chat
replace Alna with Lyca or Nara
Anything I should change ? I feel pretty lost
anyone will work that early. Id use Brutus, Rowan, Eorin, Palmer, Lyca
Could also try the new dragon, he is better than rowan/plamer ig
he could ye, idk how that dude works lmao
I have gotten 5 lvl 160 fodder legendary +. I got 40 time emblems and 20 stargazing, and a heroic choice chest so I can choose anyone. I'm unsure what to do atm cause I'm supposed to is ascend one or a team idk beyond legendary +. so like a confirmed full invest of my fodder.
ascend the hero closest to 8 copies to M then link to Rem. you can pull 10x in Stargazer, you're guaranteed to get your selected celepog which should be Liberta. For TEs you can pull for ashem when u get like 20 more to be safe but u can pull for her now then save 200 TE and pull for her again
I got liberta and ashem. so make a M with highest copies ok.
oh im blind dont mind me
for ashem her passive is when her enemies have their energy reduced so I need someone on my team who can do energy reduction right? cause I want liberta, ashem and rem to be in the same team (maybe with atheus or Ivan cause they seem good. idk if that's a ok team.
Replace Liberta with Lyca/Nara then its good. Liberta at 1 copy will barely do anything. Ashem at 1 copy is just used cos shes a better Thoran cos she gives allies 1 cheat death, her energy reduc is just a plus and wont trigger that much
Boutta get corrected by CMD
Ashem is L so forget her sp. Her damage is based on her max HP and her stats suck at L. Same with liberta
Nah you're right. People at L and E generally aren't being dps's. The like one exception is Abel and only if you surround her with ridiculous supports
ok then so I will use my pulls for the two to get more copies. Aside so currently I'm using rem, atheus cause ppl say good tank and Ivan cause ppl say good with rem cause shield. idk for these two tho or if atheus and Ivan have to be replaced
Getting Ashem to L+ wont do anything, I'd save (200 as guide says) incase next woke is the best yet (copium)
Don't pull more ashen until you have 200 cards at least. Your next breakpoint that matters is m30
Should I have played the basic game ?
Nah companions is cool, takes you back to 2019/20 version of the game but with alot of QoLs
I have used 10 pulls each for stargazing and time. i am unsure how the 200 or 240 works.
Average cost per copy is 40. You need 5 more ashems to get to mythic. So 200 is based on 40*5
it does look a lot like 2019 when I last played
Asking here is just bad cos all the people who play companions is at #companions-chat
ok got it. tho if I can't use liberta and ashem now who would be a good match with rem that I have?
You can use Ashem just not Liberta
If they add Daimon and Saurus I might give it another go
Ya ashem is fine just forget about her damage. She's a support at L
oh ok then. who would I use for her passive cause she is a tank and her torture soul can heal allies
I'll probably restart on the base game anyway, I'm missing a lot of the community stuff cuz noone talks about companions
Dont think about her skills. She's a meatshield at L so her only purpose is to tank for a few seconds then die and give allies a cheat death while shes alive
ok then who should I pair her and rem with
Atheus/Brutus is good (only good options). Flex supp is either Nara or Lyca
also should I be trying to make 5 highest tier heros based on only copies cause my main team can use the resonating crystal?
rephrase it a bit, couldnt understand
ok I will try that out, with there was a training arena I can go to for testing
should I make 5 highest tier heros based on copies to let my other heros use the resonating crystal?
is that how I should progress using my fodder and copies?
Still cant understand it fully but yea, ascend heroes closest to 8 copies cos its safe. You shouldnt really need to ascend anyone else past L+ other than Remlink and Ivan. Those 2 are all you need to get to ch31, when u get there, thats the point where you can think about ascending the other 3 heroes to get past lv160 cap (You can ascend 3 heroes to M before ch31 if you're struggling with campaign, makes it alot easier to push)
I'm at ch 20 and I'm stuck with a lvl 160 team. I was planning on maxing the tier of 5 of the closest heros.
Nah you shouldnt need to do that
cause I got 5 fodder at L+ should I make my heros L+?
Nope, only ascend them if you can get them straight to A
Only exception to that rule is Ivan and Remlink
ok then so 2 A. lvl 160 to chapter 30 is crazy maybe my gear sucks or maybe cause I don't have furniture or others cause I don't have a A or myth yet.
or maybe team comp is bad cause Jerome and palmer kinda meh
also how many copies to A is it 8 or 16?
Current box and comp of my alt. You only need to invest in Ivan and Rem - both want M weap and boots and Ivan needs si30 to make pushing to ch31 alot easier/doable
8 for A then its +2 for each star up to 5 stars. You only need 1* on most heroes
should I swap Brutus or atheus with ashem? cause tanks?
It depends on stage but I'd use Brutus and Ashem on most stages, some stage requires Atheus to be beaten
See how I only invested in Rem and Ivan, they're the magic duo ig, the other heroes purpose is to keep them both alive and they do that thru CC, Invulnerability, cheat deaths, Energy Support
what do Brutus and lyca do cause I don't think Brutus is that good but ppl say otherwise
psa for all people with ivan m20 PUT HIM FRONT LINE bye
Brutus has 7 seconds of Invulnerability iirc, thats a lot of time considering most battles dont last 30 seconds usually. Lyca gives 70 energy and a bit of haste at lv160
Will try that
Need every advantage to push without Talismane
you cna get to 31-4 with black and white ball pet
energy 0_0 rem ult
Nah cant be bothered with that. Talis makes pushing alot bearable
personally lyca I can see the use but Brutus is kinda a solo tank more like a warrior
you have accend ivan you can do it if you pt him front line and nara any hard stages
Try him out and see how OP he is
ok then cause it might be a case of in text is bad but in combat is good
I dont got Nara in alt lmao, and dont plan to use her even if I do get her (dumb decision). Havent pushed today cos school 
Oh and Brutus has a def reduc with his roar skill. If you put Watch coll on him he'll trigger it freely then die
So just to be sure of everything:
- Get liberta and ashem using stragizing and time
- Make ivan and remlink to A
- make a team with brutus/lyca/ashem
- get more copies to make other A for resonating crystal
whats a watch coll?
Yeep, 2 and 3 are the ones u do until ch31. You can do the others when u get there
ok
Idk what its called but the collection of Stand User celepog (I also forgot name)
whats stand user celepog?
Timeline Watch - Collection of Orthros
oh the artifact
Celestial - his faction and hes a stand user cos his ult is time stop + Ora ora
Nah those things are old and a different thing from collections
i am confusion i do like spell bondage tho cause it sorta works with his invcibility idk. thx for the help with planning my progression
Bondage is kinda bad on him cos shields arent needed when you die in 1 shot regardless
ok
nara e is so good
no issue
Any tips on beating this?
Why do i feel extremely underpowered with these heroes? Should i just focus on rem insteam lady s? And need campaign/arena line up. Thanks
Currently stuck in campaign again. Tried switching up the teams but whenever i run into maulers im totally stuck
I mean, you kind of are? How do you have 5 ascended and still not have Ivan si30?
Also let's talk about those wokes. Did you actually lucksack 6 wokes from normal tavern pulls? Or did you pull most of them from temple of time?
Oof. You have really set yourself back I see. Ashem and lib desperately need si30 but it appears you have chosen to spend those on rem and eorin instead, ouch. Jerome and dae need si30 as well but not as egregious as those two. Yeah that will make things a challenge
Just got my two first heroes at 8 copies, Oden and Thoran. Should I get them to A right away ?
@gray crown You need a carry folk
You planning on getting rem?
Oh nvm I see rem. Yea Ivan and rem are good. I would say focus all of your investments into them that you can at that level
Basically whoever you can get ascended first make that character bonded with rem and that will basically carry you to stage 30 in a few days
3 wokes are from temple of time just for team comps. Account is a week old so dont really have enough resources for +30. I did some different build now so i hope its a bit better.
Ok so I should A the tank or the sup first ? I'm quite happy with the deer wilder guy (forgot his name) as a tank so maybe Oden ?
Yea probably Oden then
m’y daimon dies instantly anytime i try fighting. Any replacement suggestions or lineup switching? thanks
put him on the backline
also you always wanna lvl your carry first and as high as possible
@static lake
yeah i wasn't able to level simona past 100 until everyone was at 80
who should i put in the front instead?
yea but you have lvls in your other tank past 80 just letting you know every bit counts sometimes. You would be surprised how often just a tiny diffrence makes in this game. Me personally i would reset samona and have damion as your carry.
hes more new player friendly and carrys easier thats just my personal opinion im no expert. But i am a habitual restarter tho i have hit stage 30+ on like 20 diffrent accounts because i enjoy the free 2 play leaderboards race. You can get to stage 30 in a fresh server in like 6 days or quicker with luck with damion into rem carry
ohh i thought it was important to level them like every 11 levels to upgrade their skill
Yea its important to lvl them and there are rare times when you might lvl one up instead of your carry
to beat a certain stage etc
uhhh damion as my carry? 😭 i don't even have damion on my wishlist i heard he's ass since rem came out
i thought lady simona was better than damion no?
you can do it with your current carry its not a huge deal
generally yea but not super early in my opinion
you can easily get stage 14 first day with damion
damion is ass later and lady simona is better for late game pvp etc
so laddy simona is worst than damion early game?
but really your just trying to get to rem asap so whatever gets you there quicker
depends on stages
i'm at 8-19 rn
around where you are i feel that way but theres not much diffrence tbh
but damion is easier to use
i haven't hit a wall yet my damion just dies instantly, silas dies right after, and then the other 3 usually carries me to victory lol
try putting him on the backline more if he dies instanly he can 1v5 if ramped up
okok
what artifact are you using
Also, refering to my previous question, should I begin to ascend a light hero so that I can unlink my rem from my light fodder ? Or should I unlink by paying the diamonds fee ? Maybe my Palmer at 6 copies ?
Dura's grace on simona cos it's my only one 😂
ah kk yea use dura call on damion till you get collections
okok thanks!
you pretty much have to do peaks of time every time you unlock it if your trying to progress the rewards are huge and the dust is needed for f2p or else you will be stuck for days
yeah i heard dust is so important in this game and to use the chests on that for everything and the store thing too
yes but dont use your chests save them
you get more from chests every stage tier you pass
ahh shit... LOL
isn't it the same like amount of dust later tho?
so opening them now gives like nothing. But if you save those till stage 30 you get a free 200k dust or some shit
to progress you may have to open a few before then tho
but the later the better. If you need dust do peaks of time and kings tower. The game isnt all just campaign
okok i'ma save chests startinggg now LOL
In fact in late game its mostly not campaign cuz you get hard stuck forever
yea save all chests i still have all my gold chests from this month old account
daamn uhhh time to restart! LOL
probably wouldnt hurt tbh tho new servers take forever now like a whole ass 2 weeks
Fresh server everyone starts from nothing. Its fun to race i was second on leaderboards for the first 3 weeks but then the whales came and spend thousands lol
like im on server 1153
you get extra shit as well if your high on leaderboards and you can compete in pvp a lot easier
no way y'all just be speed running every new server then 😭 doesn't that get boring switching acc to acc?
ig not i used to play pokemon nuzlock and i just did a new run everytime cos of rng made it fun
yea but im addicted lol i mostly play at work. This my last time tho for real.
so ur saying ur the perfect guy to ask for advice for beginners LOL
Theres always gonna be a whale that will beat you on leaderboards lol. I had hope this time then outa no where dude has like 6 awakened to max and went to stage 36 lol
wouldn't it be sick if there was different servers for F2P and ppl that pay?
haha maybe for certain things but theres people in this discord that know waaaayyy more then me
i have never been past stage 40 as well i usually always reset or quit playing for a bit haha
That would literally make me so happy bro you have no idea. But that will never happen cuz they like money. I would for sure pay a $50 subscription a month to play only f2p tho @odd flower
maybe the gods will hear us haha 😭
so ur saying when i get to stage 40 i'm cooked
it slows down way before that. This account is a month old and im just now getting into stage 34
no way
currently rank 11 on the server 😦 i fell off a lot damn whales
look at this shit lol
that's ur acc?
https://gyazo.com/68973c2443971105c0a32ada17682ab2 that takes f2p like a year gametime lol fuck no i wish
damn...
look how far ahead he is vs everyone else its nuts man i wont be able to beat him for a while. He total ass tho can tell hes new and just spent the money. He could be way higher in stages with what he has
campaign takes forever u do this every server reset?!?
tbh i respect the whales cos if we didn't have whales the game would die down a long time ago
over the last 4 years or whatever
could never be me but at least someone paying for new content
i switch games a lot lol. just came back after like 2 years a few months ago
yea the content gets boring but im competative so i like that part
and tbh theres not shit else to play as far as phone games go
add me if you want you can use my champs and stuff later
Better to use highpowered ones from whales or high lvls but helps with faction tower later on im always online during the day
Get a mentor as well i can mentor you on an old account it gives you a ton of really good free stuff
But im gonna go play KCD for a while but if you have questions later lemme know
whats ur ign?
I just got my first A hero (Oden) but my rem is still linked to a light fodder, should I get one of my light hero to mythic so that I can unlink Rem and link her to my new A hero ? Maybe my palmer at 6 copies ?
Yeah been trying to do that
Just unlink and relink. You can do it from temple of ascension for 100d
ok ty
@static lake 161134489
Cani get help please?
didnt see cos so far up. =garrison Rem first
What is Garrison?
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994912202375049256
oh u have her
link to Palmer and lv him up to lv200. Use Brutus, Atheus/AShem, Rem, Ivan, Lyca/Nara
Okay thank you. Sorry what does link to palmer mean
go to Temple of Ascension and go to Dimensional heroes and link her to Palmer. You do that to ascend Dimensionals
Omg i had no idea thank you so much
There is this button on every Dimensional hero, you mightve missed it
help
You dont have Simona built or 1 ABel so yes
send whole box
Ivan+Oden is wild
its funny but ti works for some reason
have no abel like the formations suggest and oden worked instead of others I tried
Its just CC Galore with all those heroes lmao
t3 can be improved pretty easily if u use libcharm
yeep, lemme get my copypasta stuff. im quite the libcharm enthusiast
I like watching those until my eyes can't handle it anymore
okok ty will try
T2 not sure can't really understand whats going on, rem just dies and everyone follows suit
I think it's daemia doesn't get enough energy But I have her on the purple book thjing
t2 might improve if you put Emilia in the team, she'll help out alot with Rem survivability cos of CC n stuff, you can replace Palmer for that, his heals does nothing for that team and he cant buff
Ohokok tysm!
it might mess up AShem team though, but you got Simona and Villanelle there so iguess it'll be fine
ok will give those a try and let u know if it works
You could try to switch their order, Rem will have to ult very early if you want her to beat Flora. You could try to beat that Flora enemy first, try out every team and see what does the best job at beating it
just noticed you had Gavus and Raine. Gavus can be used if enemies are really bursty - used alot in Thoran Cheese - and Raine is used alot in Rem comp, she shares energy and health regen with strongest ally with her si (at si10 she'll share 50% of what she gets to ally)
AEzizh can also be used ithink, havent actually tried him. He'll disable enemy in front of him for 10 seconds which is huge
I just tried the previous suggestions you gave, 1 is fine 2 is fine (subbed emilia and changed team a little) 4 is fine, placed palmer in there
what about the charm 
Libcharm is extremely cheap, a copy of Lucilla and Canisa&Ruke would go a long way, not saying its worth spending 80 sg for them though
Who should I build after building liberta?
oh I almost forgot to say - You could also try to use Malkrie and ABrutus, both are very good at CC, Malkrie being insane at it. Used both in my old Abel+Ivan comp, enemy just gets CCed until they die from 5 ABel ults. Team was ABrutus, Ivan, Tamrus, Abel, Malkrie
Some say Dae and some say Alna. Dae is the better choice though
Is athalia good?
Awakened yes, Normal no
Cuz my friend recommended me building her when unlocking the temple thingy
nope, read =te for that, shes 2nd prio after Awakened Shemira
Woke Prios and TE income:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1255522091650781284
if you mean wokes that is. If you mean normal Athalia then dont bother, read =sgprio for that
Stargazing Priorities:
Oof I already used my ticket thingy and got 2 copies of athalia
your friend might not be your friend if hes messing up your progression 
Hello guys, quick question. I am trying to form my early game team but I am not having a great success with it. Would you guys be able to help me ? I also have a character to get out of a few possibilities so I'll also put the screen if that helps
I'd use Atheus, Naroko, Vika, Raine, Lyca and get Flora from chest, the choices arent that good so getting a celestial is the best choice
Thanks for the tips, i'll switch my team
not exactly libcharm
but gottem
Level up Vika or Naroko 20-40 levels higher than the rest. they'll be your carry or atleast one of them. Level up Naroko cos Vika still does good dmg at lower level
Mehira should be in p4 or middle but it works ig, only ever put her in p3 or p5 when enemy has kelthur/nara
yeah, didn't exactly get it so switched but it worked from mehira charming the first couple times, then naroko tanked some
Who is worth using this on
draconis, save it for now
I CANT PASS STAGE 31 - 4 help
ah welp, if it works then it works. that team would get better as you build Lib. You could also use Lyca instead of Rowan, try both out and see who works better
send box, cant help without it
oooh ok gotcha, i mean it probably could have worked if I tried a couple more times - honestly think I also just got lucky when I tried
I'd get a Mehira copy and use Libcharm since you cant use Ivan+Someone
Who is mehira
Libcharm is that good, it doesnt take much RNG when you have the team down
Succubus Demon Girl
for campaign yes, everywhere else no
yeep
Yay first try
nice, now read the book I wrote
Okay
Thanks !
Palmer
and put Ivan in your Rem comp if that team is struggling
Mehira dies instantly tho
that means you're not using the right comp
try everything to keep her alive, her and Liberta is all you need to beat enemies
Ok2 tyy
I'd use ALucius, Ivan, Villanelle, Silas, Simona. if you need more tanking then use Thoran instead of Simona
Hi guys, im new to the game, could you help me with the info what team should i use and which heros its best to ascend to mythic from the ones i already have ?
it's better to ascend hero only when you can get it ascended (white tier)
Also check your wishlist to see whether you have a correct one, your box seems weird
=wishlist
=guide
this pic have all things you need to know early game
Also garrison rem and link her to daimon and try to make the team menitoned in "team composition", the most important unit is ivan and you always want your team have ivan+rem
Thanks for the response 🙂 my wishlist i simmilar to the one you attached.
What do you mean by linking her ? I garrison her already and she helps me with a lot of side missions. Is there any info when it will be possible to get her?
my Mauler Tower is pretty stuck and I could use some advice since it's my least used faction, most below Kren and Thali are at Si20, those two have their 30s and e30s. I have been working on vika and naroko but does numisu need further investment first? I know he's Older but he still seems quite popular
Warek just goes through my tanks so I can't make any setup time for ultis
Do you have the chain thing in the pic?
Copy this wishlist instead, their are some bad hero's on your original one
villanelle is much stronger than numisu and she's usable at M, you can try to replace one old mauler by villanelle.
You can ignore numisu and put most of the resources on nanoko atm. Nanoko can solo carry mauler tower
So what do I do
I’m just stuck now and can’t progress?
Tyty
Ahh sorry, i missunderstood. I lent her from this ,,mentor’’ thing or short term from friends. Not for the dimensional Stones. As soon as i get the Stones i will perform it
question about the basic lineup, should 1 tank 1 dps be in the front and 3 supps in the back or how does a basic lineup usually look like?
Is the beginner guide up to date?
A bit outdated but its still good
Nope, comps in this game can consist of whatever - even all 5 mages if they synergizes well with each other - 'basic' lineup early game is 2 tanks up front, 2 supports and carry at the back. There are cases where you have to use 3 tanks or 3 supports that early on but its rare
Nah, You just have to get to 200RC > 240 Rem and Ivan > 220 RC > 240 RC. Ofc this will take an extremely long time. You can probably use Ivan+Oden and just link Rem to Nara (why?). Rem is 1st team and Ivan+Oden is 2nd, fillers are still the ones in =gitgud with a few additions but u can try to cook up your own or copy/get ideas from others
ahh alright thank you
Could you explain the significance of those numbers and RC
I have 4 mythic+ need 5th and have grit who should I go with?
Team rem, Ivan, atheus, Palmer, last daemia rn
you're at RC (Resonating Crystal) 180 rn cos the heroes u slotted in RC is getting lv180. with this knowledge RC200 and up is pretty straightforward - you level up all 5 heroes to lv200 and you'll be at RC200
should i swap lady s, full t2 gear to ivan and get rem to 240 instead of ls?
rem should be the highest lvl to carry
thants why im asking if i should reinvest everything into rem instead of ls
as a person who invested in rem I say yes.
so would it be best to get ls to 200, daimon 240 to get rem to 240 and put all the t2 gear on ivan?
yes
@void dawn for how many days u been playing till u reach this lvl ? i want to make new account but i hate early game things
a week. i did spend a bit tho
ez thanks lot ❤️
I am looking to get 5 A heros. 2 for rem and Emilia link, 3 for grit. I have 1 alr and 3 at myth cause fodder. I am looking to see if Ivan, atheus and Ashem needs to go cause I only get 1 chance to grit. Ashem has to 100% go cause can't grit. Any recommendations on the 3 I will be making into A? rem and Emilia has to keep cause very good.
Or maybe someone to replace Ashem if im keeping the other two
like replace the 3 heroes you mentioned in the team?
if thats the case then, you dont need a team full of A hero for that team to be considered 'good'
some heroes doesnt need to be built and will work at 1 copy, ofc they'll be better when they have invest
lets say i replace only Ashem with a hero who is worth to grit to A
Cause i need to make a team of A who is confirmed i use my 4 grit chances
i got a lot of lyca and eorin and not a lot for the others
I'd say Jerome > Simona > Naroko > Atheus. Jerome is useful everywhere cos of his buffs and heals, mostly his buffs. Simona is the 2nd carry in campaign usually, if you dont get ABel from pulls. Naroko is not that great in campaign but still sometimes used, she's all you'll need in Mauler tower, atleast the lower floors (-400 id say). Atheus is also an amazing hero, used almost everywhere but works at E or lower ascension/invest
save your grits til the last week. Only use it for Ivan
Using them that early is a bad decision cos 30+ days is a lot of time/more than enough time to build all the meta heroes,
idk why you'd wanna replace Ivan, AShem and Atheus in team though. They're used all the time in campaign
i plan on using it on the final day if possible im just trying to know what should my core team be.
There is no 'core' team. When you reach ch31 you'll have to fight 2 teams, ch33 - 3 teams, ch35 - 4 teams, ch36+ - 5 teams. Same with Towers but it only goes up to 3 teams. That's for PvE, for PvP you cant do well with 1 good team, you'll have to even out your teams depending on what the PvP mode needs
for NC, CR you'll need 6 teams. TS - max of 7 teams but 5 good teams is enough
did not know that. but i don't need a A raine, lyca, daimen and eorin. maybe this would be a better question on the last 3 days of grit. my copies are not equal some heros just got more
yee you can grit them then, maybe not Raine though as shes sometimesused in campaign and everywhere else. She'll do her job as Rem link
ok then just gotta farm the copies for someone useful
btw maybe wrong chat but for the lost sigils should i be aiming for the emblem chest? idk how rare are they or how needed they are
yeep you go for those until you get Ivan, Lib, Ashem si30 - these are the first si30s you should aim for. When you get these 3 then you can focus on baits
ok
Is lavatuna not worth early ?
yes
Oh ok then lavatuna and red emblem with the rest ? I’m approximatively at the same lvl than SwellestOrc
just reds no lava
Oh oops 🤡
Should i save Hildwin or Eugene shard for the future swap? I have both of them at 1 star
wrong channel
Oops sorry about that 😅
Yes but not priority
Don't claim extra guild coin from mystic valley or ilse of gold, just build them at extra slow speed , star doesn't make alot of different
Need help for running comps in fantastic beasts crimson snow. Tried a recommended lineup from some older guide of Treznor, Fane, Scarlet, Rowan, Ivan(don't have Rosaline). That worked for the first 4stages. Swapped to a comp of Ivan, Rem, Lyca, Brutus, Thoran and that isn't working. My lion beasts is only level 2, do I just need higher level beasts to push this gamemode?
What comp should i use in here
replace ivan by kren or raku
Use Ashem+lib should clear most of it
@north rampart the lineup you suggested earlier is unable to win through this sustain battle, I don't quite understand which hero is needing to be countered
which voyage and stage
Misty forest 22
Sorry forgot to check back, here’s a new comp
hi, can i ask for line up help with my teams?
just send them
ive been playing for quote a while and i just actually keep using this
usually i keep that line up changing maybe a tanks in front
oh thats old, ancient one might say
how can you tell its ancient? hahaa
i think i played this before dffoo (originally been playing dffoo religiously till it closed 😦 )
ah forgot to help lmao
if 1st team is working then I'd use Rem Ivan in 2nd team - could use Jerome, Atheus, idk whoever meta rn ig
dang i barely know the names of the characters. haha will read up thanks!
I'm very curious as to what palmer and Simona lack in a fight like this that villa and Liberta would make up for. I could read their abilities but paper usually differs from practice
erosion
What the quack is that
its one of the dmg types in the game that only a few heros have and the game is generally incredibly vague in letting you know which have it
bronn, vika, lib all deal health loss. bronn, atheus, tamtam and vika can do cc as well which helps keep anyone from dying. And atheus vika bronn tamtam also all provide buffs/debuffs which helps as well
What about Naro, what utility would she bring to the table?
cc, healing, dmg she can be kind of squishy tho so it may be better to run her in backline. shes another hero who can deal health loss
if shes squishy why is she a tank?
bc this game likes to slap random classes on people. displayed classes/roles often differ from their actual roles
so is Ashem a carry or a tank? or both because shes a shiny hero
both
thanks for the advice, learned a lot.

Hey guys is this already good
replace Flora with villanelle
new day new stuck on 35-52, its libcharm actually (only t3 trouble)
im probably doing something wrong
do I need to gear mehira
dude, don't have Abel, other heroes being used for different lineups, only T3 has issue I have trouble making libcharm work properly because I'm an idiot 
don't have resources to pull Abel, currently being used for Ashem - no TE left
Building merlin atm from challenger, tried lib back with lyca already, I have no TEs at the moment
Oh? I'm just following faq guides
Hey everyone!
I am a new player and looking for some guidance for a good team comp and any other useful tips that could benefit my progression. It would be truly appreciated!
Oh, are the discord guides really outdated
Heyya, you can checkout the pinned guides in questions, plenty of info there
I just reached chapter 13 and it's pain that I need 2 formations, my first formation are the top 5 but I need help with a line up for my 2nd formation
thats crazy, how do u have a light here already, i only gotten my light and dark heros in my 130s
=restarting
Read this thread to determine if your account is restart worthy:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1098437930919395388
you should seriously restart. That box is so gold, you wasted a crazy amount of fodder are are definitely going to get hardstuck. When you do, read the guide and the part about how you get a free wukong immediately at the start of the game and are supposed to ride him for a while. Everyone gets a celestial (light hero as you called them) from level 1
wdym box is so gold, wasted loads of fodder
also i really did get so unlucky that i got no celestials or hydro heros until i was in my lvl 130s
as of rn too, its taking me 2-3 days to level up 1 hero to 160
Read the link. Getting lucky or unlucky isn't actually a big factor in whether or not to restart due to the pity system, wishlist and hte massive amount of initial pulls they give you (plus they pretty clearly skew luck to new players with extra doubles and such). Plus the 4 grits they give you in case the elites you get skew toward the wrong people.
What is really bad and gets you stuck and having to restart is ascending people before you have 8 copies. Fodder is the real block and you've wasted tons and tons of it
I mean if you follow the guides on here it generally takes about a week to reach ch31
i got around 140s 160s last time too when i played the game years ago
💀
ive been playing like 2 weeks maybe longer
but i should've gotten to chapter 30 somthing?! 💀
@ripe crest thats not possible
its like going up to me and saying my life that i lived was a lie 😭
it is. as the guide says, 1 ascended is worth more then 30 legendaries. That's why i said to restart. All your yellow and red heroes are just blocking your progress. Plus most of them are not people you want to be ascending any time soon
You also don't seem to have rem or ivan so I assume you're working off an old guide and making things quite difficult for yourself
its like telling me who believed 1 + 1 is 2 and saying that its actually 3
no guide, just winging it
i thought that i was dominating too 😭
ah. well rem is a very strong dimensional DPS you can get at any point via garrison. And ivan hides underground to make himself untargettable while feeding a massive amount of attack and energy to rem so she blows up the whole board very quickly
i was even getting high placements in things like the arenas
So you basically just get those two and cruise. Filling in the rest o hte spots with people that you have from =gitgud
since rem is dimensional the key is just to get an ascended. It really doesn't matter who they are, you're just linking them to rem anyway. Except ivan. You also want him at least mythic (and preferrably ascended) but he can't be your link
Do I have any lineups I can make to get a boss kill or two in NC this week?
where are the guides
check pins in #classic-questions . Also there's a lot in #faq-resources
=guide
that's the main picture one that covers a lot
is there a better quality screenshot
cause its hard to read the small parts
i just got a celestial after restarting 💀
what these heros?!
@ripe crest i cant find some of em
and what do the numbers mean on their heads, and the arrows
this is old use this one, the numbers are the copies you need of each hero before replacing him =wishlist
i just restarted, what am i meant to wish
this wishlist, left to right
problem is that most of them dont show up for me
you have to click on the wishlist to change it then look for them for each faction
i got to select heros, and in that list, it doesnt show alot of em
you playing a different game than us? 
you are definitely not playing the lastest version of the game you are like 4 years behind or something 
um that's weird. did you find an offline version of afk arena somewhere?
Or thats companions
Current team and my hero’s. Can anyone help me get a better team
(Also got Ivan idk if he is any good as a plain 5 star)
I think Ivan is good at any acention
I think this could get you far
My ass has been getting kicked whats the team used for this one 
Nvm it was rng
Thank you🙌
Np
hihi!! i’m returning from a 337 day hiatus according to dolly, but i was curious if i had any probability for a better team lineup for anything. the first picture is the lineup that i came back to
Any tips on beating this one?
replace Rigby with Eorin
how do i beat this team
Hello, I just started today. I want to ask if who I should focus on leveling up first and who should I be using for now in my campaign + fiora? thanks in advance
anyone can halp? educate me on libcharm 
Im the guy for that
t1 and t2 are looking like prime libcharm opponents
havent tested unbuilt lava and lan in charm but I doubt they synergize/work well with lib
If you only have 1 team doing badly in campaign, the best thing to do is try that comp atleast 5 times in every enemies, find the one it'll work well with
it worked after switching opponents but now having trouble with the other teams again 
I'll scramble something and figure something out
you only need to lv up Eorin/Wukong that early on
Vyloris 
This is the newest?
Latest one yes
Should be subject to change in the near future now that Randle has been released
Is this grown daimon any good yet?
I didn't test anything personally 
I'm starting to have trouble passing chapter 10, can someone help me set up a better line-up?
Maybe because you're stuck because of the mistake of taking a lot of useless heroes to L?
That's the worst mistake to do early on
I asked for help, not to be dragged down and made fun of me
You should restart =restarting
Read this thread to determine if your account is restart worthy:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1098437930919395388
There are plenty of resources you can use from this server to guide you, such as =guide
=campaign
Next time try not to make so many legendary tier heroes since that stunts ur progress
but what if I don't really want to restart and want to continue playing on this same version/account??
sorry if I'm asking too many questions
you'd have a hard time, restarting and following the guide will make you progress way faster and you'll surpass where you are now in like a week tops
I have no clue how to restart
=restarting
Read this thread to determine if your account is restart worthy:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1098437930919395388
bvm it doesn't show you how
you'll find it online if you decide to restart
(i can't remember it properly myself)
Did you spend diamonds on dragon summons? They're very expensive to build. You also only need to level up 5 heroes because the resonating crystal will level everyone up to your lowest level. If you have enough resources you can see if you can buy a dimensional stone to garrison the hero Rem under the "Friends" tab on the right hand side. If you don't want to start a new account you can pair her with one of your gold border heroes and she's a very good damage dealer to help you progress
If you do start on a new server and follow the guides linked above you'll be back at Chapter 10 within a few hours. In general though, you don't want to ascend your heroes to legendary or legendary+ unless they're the heroes that start off blue. They're called "fodder" heroes, you can use them to push your resonating crystal level to 160 without relying on rng from summons. At the moment it might take you weeks or months until you pull the next copy of a hero you want to ascend, and in the meantime you might pull more copies of a different hero and you're blocked from ascending them since you've already used up your fodder. I'm not sure if I explained this very well, but it might be worth looking through the pins to find up to date guides since the heroes you've summoned haven't been "meta" heroes for many years, or maybe watch some youtube videos? The best heroes you have right now are probably Eorin (2nd row on the left), Atheus (4th row 2nd to the right), Tamarus (5th row on the right) so maybe level Eorin to 140 and see if you can figure out a line-up around them?
Rem is always first to die i don't know what is wrong with my team
thank you for this advice
if I'm not mistaken you ment this?
Yeah that's it, Rem is the one on the bottom right. If you exchange 100 stones you can "borrow" her for 1 month and after 6 months you don't need to pay. You pick a hero (usually the highest level) to "bond" with her and then you want to pick other heroes to help her survive, "Ivan" from the graveborn faction is very good at this because he gives her a shield that boosts her stats
With Rem + Ivan you will progress very quickly, just pick other units that keep them alive so a mix of tanks/healers/support heroes that either buff your team or debuff the enemy team etc...
It's also quite normal to get stuck, sometimes you just need to wait for higher levels, but if you follow the pinned guides you should reach somewhere between Chapter 25 and 30 in a week depending on how much you play
this is what I currently have
Now that's hard work explanation
Grown Daimon... Thats a first. Ppl already find him amazing in PvE, now theyre testing him in PvP
I just said he's looking alike, he's good so far, waiting to see where he spot in prio, but ill build him anyways hcp 5 copies is ready
Top5 gb material imo, BatDan was saying hes gonna kick out Silas not Oden to put Randle in top 5 wl
It's Oden who's getting kicked he just played it around
Goodluck getting him to do that lmao
looking for a 5t comp for campaign stage 40+
Someone plz help me lmao
Help who to engraved next.. already did rem and ivan lvl30.
Simona
Have you heard of Libcharm 

It’s like my 2nd week
Ok well I don’t have the bat girl or a built Rowan or the top guy
Or a built lib sister
You dont need Rowan in that comp, Lyca will work. Same with Lucilla, you can use other tanks like Brutus, Thoran, Ashem, Atheus - whichever one you got that is free
I don’t have bat girl either tho
Shouldve pulled for her right after u got Lib to M. =Sgprio for source
Stargazing Priorities:
I’m trying to get him one star
Ah then Id just use LibSleep - Tasi instead of Mehira
I havent tried it yet myself, but it should work as long as Lib and Tasi lives til the end. Credits to Amphy who cooked up that cheaper version
Who is tasi
Fairy butterfly wilder girl
I don’t have her built either
She's fine at E
She works Just like mehira but no charm, rather sleep
how is the lineup?
Well it's just a trail so keep trying random stuff until it works
Yes it is resolved

any tips on the teams? who should i switch? etc
Is the new graveborn good?
Which team i should use? (7-18)
hard stuck need help
you can use villanelle as support
formatiton would be like mae brutus villanelle randle silasss/thoran
also you want your mae 40 lev above others unit as it will be your carry until you can get rem
People cant help without ur roster
How can I iimprove my teams?
M Mehira 
That Libcharm comp is very expensive. You dont need Ivan and AShem there, you can put those 2 in t3 - you can remove Lyca and Jerome for that. You can put Lyca in t1 and Jerome in t2 - remove Brutus in t2 ig
honestly you should be able to clear it if you just copy any formation from the tab and fill in the gabs with whatever
Hello coming back after few days for lineup update: What combo i should use? Currently using Rem, Silas, Lyca, Ivan, Palmer
replace palmer by Atheus as tank , and replace Silas with villanelle,when you get her
Also do not upgrade your non-fodder hero to L+ anymore
Why?
Lyca, Silas, Rowan all usefull A+ no?
Or the diff between E+ and L+ doesnt matter?
Ya that's one of the reason
Also the 3 hero you mentions isn't the best hero, when you spending fodders on them you are delaying the build up for your best unit eg.jerome/plamer/nanoko/ivan
I see. Thanks
also lyca works at E, don't upgrade her anymore atm
Oh yeah i fkd up a bit... So the Atheus+Rem frontline, Lyca, Silas, Ivan backline?
yup, you can take out Silas and put Nara to control the annoying enemy in some stage
No
hes amazing
It sounds like i was missing around, but i thought he was asking about the draconic smh
Thank you
is this a good thing or nah? i thought she was worth the investment
1 copy is all you need
thank you
oh….she kept dying so quickly i thought she needed the mythic ability
this actually makes it harder for her to survive lol. The reason the comp works is because lib feeds the person with the lowest hp on the team continuous energy. And mehira's ult basically stops the entire enemy team from functioning for a few seconds due to charm. So when she's E once she ults once she just keeps ulting nonstop because lib is feeding her energy.
By making her mythic she now has significantly more HP and lib is probably not feeding her anymore. So its harder to keep them perma cc'ed
you probably do need to use a much more expensive libcharm comp then most because I'm not sure you can use stuff like e brutus or e lyca like others do. They'll have less HP then mehira and lib will feed them energy instead of her
SEuphy is right though that is still way too expensive. but yea you probably won't be able to copy a lot of formations due to your mehira. One of the reason libcharm is so common is because its really cheap. You basically just need lib (who you were already building) and then one copy of mehira. everyone else is replacable and most of the pieces work with zero investment. So you can consolidate invested pieces into other teams that need them more. You will have to limit your libcharm comp to chars at least as ascended as your mehira now to meet the HP threshold
…..i see. dang i messed up just made it more expensive for myself
yea potentially. your ascended lyca will help though. Can still use her safely. Might have to swap brutus and atheus since atheus is ascended. 5th slot tbd but just be careful about the HP whoever you pick. Since she's m20 you'll probably need someone at least mythic. And then a collection with an M HP on that fifth person would probably do it since mehira will be using the book artifact at all times
thank you
=guide dont mind me
#afk-fan-art message I drew GODen for you sir ODan 
cry more
go get nem to fix it
sir it's ur job
no
cause you wanna start crying when i dont know what happened and wanna blame me
ill simply leave it as is
Actually just did this to help a nub out, I didnt need the guide or anything... I have it memorized in my big brain
who's next?
uhh idk, probably a female that has a simple design
yea, the profession isnt for you
oh its updated now, the guide i mean, didnt notice that
wait mishka's back?
6th wilder sir
who would you put there then?
Id probably do the more well known one/has the most simp first. I want them clout 
lyca lorsan nevanthi pippa? where is mishka used rn

all one copy wonders
you dont need em built
4 copies
till later for cheese
also good to have built lorsan so no hp problems with vika
who doesn't simp for maetria? 
vika is one of the very last things for newbies to worry about in NC
yes and remind me where mishka is on that list?
havent seen anyone worship her so im guessing not a lot of people
maybe saurus is still good idk
you can start the trend
just draw so good people start worshipping
ngl I don't care enough to do this, just wanna argue 
the problem comes from drawing good. I can only draw decently 
dumbass
now i went and tried to fix it
and succeeded
=guide
so u acknowledge you broke it
not with that attitude 
shut your bitch ass up
Im a beginner compared to the gods (popular artists) of digital art. I also dont draw that consistently, only when I get the motivation to so Im not progressing fast so I just say im decent
Hello, who should I use?
Restart bro u got too much legendary. Do not ascend to legendary.
facts. =restarting
Read this thread to determine if your account is restart worthy:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1098437930919395388
Which team should i use (11-14)?
brutus, thoran, rem, ivan, vill ig
you cant do it
no shit
amazing right?
goated
you praise me too much 
=guide
youve done nothing
thats what you think
I see nev m20 in Trish comps in NC a lot so I'd probably guess her. Pippa m20 basically goes hand and hand with thoran so if he's out then not her either ig
hellur i need help with my lineup(s) i took a huge break from the game and im unsure of who i should use.
=restarting
Read this thread to determine if your account is restart worthy:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1098437930919395388
lol emphasis on the restarting. That's like 1 day of "progress" for a new player who would then get told to restart for wasting a bunch of fodder. And that's after a break? just go to the newest server and youll pass your progress by the end of the day
Hello @ripe crest,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.
level 140 ok fine , maybe 2 days
not really looking to start over but alright thanks anyways
consider restarting
you will make this progress in 5 days or less
A restart is a must, you would reach this level of yours within 3-5 days
should i just delete my account then and then restart from there??
nevermind i figured it out thank you guys
I’m F2P 160 day 2
Henlo i need help with my lineup
What I use is rem/awakened shemira/rowan/atheus/Ivan
i need a team for them
Randle Atheus 
I think that one was tricky cuz of tamrus; Randle Atheus Trisha; with Randle away from Atheus
Can someone explain to me why tf isn’t the formation working when I pass this lvl in a different server 1 week ago with the exact same formation?
Different colls? Or maybe there was just more rng then you realized. Try replacing palmer with lyca, he's probably not doing a whole lot there
Sorry been asking so much recently but what would be some good legend’s challenger teams?
Just make your best 2 teams and do whatever on team 3. Try to find a spot somewhere in the top25 that you can sit without constantly having to fight back and forth with someone as it's not worth the effort. The reward diff between ranks is small. And since rc matters it's impossible to defend against whales without whaling yourself anyway
I started this game about 2-4 days ago, I obviously still don’t know much about the game… so I just need help with my lineup, thank you!
Don't take heroes to L and your good
And check your wishlist if it's up to date
That's all you gotta know early on like this
To L?
Eorin solos, Rowan, Wukong, Vika, Simona, Oden after
Could you give me some advice as well?
=garrison Rem
What is Garrison?
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994912202375049256
I know I spread fodder around a few heroes which is why I have some unjustified ascensions there.
hmm okay thanks its my second day ❤️
ah thats fine by me, Ive seen alot of those and some way worse so its fine. Garrison Rem and comp will be Brutus, Atheus, Ivan, Rem, Lyca. Iknow its filled with unbuilt heroes but Rem + Ivan is all you need
Oh man I thought you were gonna tell me to restart. My anxiety.
I recommend it sometimes but most of the time I just assume the person doesnt want to as they have spent a lot of time in the account and dont wanna lose their progress
Also one more thing, I ascended Crassius just to get the free scrolls and because I got enough copies but should I grit him?
ah grit him away when you get the rewards for SI 20, 3f, and e30
Yeah I'm just waiting for si30 before doing so but who should I grit him to? Ivan maybe? I
its my first team ?
ah I meant Eorin can solo first few chapters, when he cant then use the Rowan, Wukong, Vika, Simona, Oden comp
why u said oden after where he can be replaced ?
Sorry for flooding this channel with questions btw.
oh okay
not worth 300 reds for 5k diamonds but if you'll grit him to Ivan then go for it
you're good, this channel is very dead unless someone answers stuff
Ohh okay. I mean I can grit him now then if it's not worth it since I'm only at si15 with him.
ah you can that as well if you're fine with missing out on the rewards from Hero covenant - its kinda mehh anyway - Just having Ivan will give you so much progress + Rem ofc
rowan is better from palmer ?
It's fine I feel like I already milked those rewards cause I got a bunch of Crassius without even having him in my wishlist to begin with. Thanks a lot for the advice. I hope you'll humor my noob ass again next time. 
use whatever, anyone will work that early anyway. the pic u sent is only applicable if they're at their optimal invest
i understand sorry if my questions are dumb
