classic-questions

[harsh acorn]

if you're a casual player, I'd join a casual guild and get advice there :)

it's hard to give good, relevant advice when accounts are too behind the current meta.

[solar fractal]

TrollZxW mentions

[olive jewel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1084516534434680922/1113257888274727042/ZRKR88CH1QE5NH537R.gif

[grim hamlet]

do you mean grit or swap scroll? Cause definitely dont use your swap scroll on either of htose

[cinder heart]

How do I summon the wishlist?

/wishlist

[grim hamlet]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

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[calm sinew]

I have both

[cinder heart]

Thanks lol

Been a long time since i played,

[grim hamlet]

grit the general advice is to wait until a couple days before grit expires to use. But if you've got an A1 vika already can probably swap her. Should have a couple so you can swap eorin later too.

Swap scroll do not use. Save it, its used for dragons later

[cinder heart]

K, thanks

[calm sinew]

Ok I Will keep the swap one for the HBN, and wait before using legacy one

[hasty flax]

Wat r we doing today

[olive jewel]

Watching hockey

[hasty flax]

Is that the olympics?

[olive jewel]

Yes

[unreal meadow]

Do you know how does the targeting system work ? For example which hero will the hero attack first, cause I can’t understand it, at first I thought they attacked the one in front of them but this is only for some assassins

[dusk gazelle]

=code

[gilded sapphire]

How to Redeem Codes

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994909601592004714

[pallid knoll]

Normally it's the hero nearest or right across.

But read the skills of each hero and you'll see almost all heroes have skills which have a criteria to who they'll target.

Ex. Highest atk enemy hero, or enemy hero who does the most dmg

[unreal meadow]

Thanks u very much

[olive jewel]

There's even funny ones like Lucretia targetting Zaphrael if he is on the enemy team

[olive jewel]

Hi bud

[hybrid breach]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-chicken-chicken-cat-chicken-suit-stare-gif-7069989637244858847

[olive jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/2-gif-7749019966943875056

[tepid totem]

luc dead

[cobalt abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/kittyjam-jamming-jam-cute-cat-cat-jam-gif-499006987437771115

https://tenor.com/view/bubu-dudu-cheek-pinch-gif-2972827856134174678

[olive jewel]

Hikhuaa

[cobalt abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-animals-mochi-mochi-peach-cat-goma-cat-wave-gif-17543358

hihi jacko

[harsh acorn]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

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[olive jewel]

Need some pointers bud?

[reef flicker]

is there a dimensional hero tier list currently?

[olive jewel]

Not really. Because there are several different ways to get them

[past oar]

also tier lists in general are trash

[olive jewel]

Also true

[vapid pumice]

=sgprio

[gilded sapphire]

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[high wigeon]

This reminds me I lost evernight e1 50/50 last night 💔

[vapid pumice]

Hi I would like to know who I can focus on my sg pls

[harsh acorn]

does os have a guide like this?

[harsh acorn]

Indeed I do

[cobalt abyss]

that’s a really well made and clean guide actually

[harsh acorn]

How to get saitama

[olive jewel]

No. Most of it is in the main noob guide but not

[olive jewel]

Do you have specific questions?

[harsh acorn]

just meant to focus on one thing and to be very simple. just for answering questions lol

=garrison

[gilded sapphire]

What is Garrison?

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994912202375049256

[cobalt abyss]

now we just need people to refer to the faq resources more often as it has mostly everything

[harsh acorn]

now we just people to refer

[cobalt abyss]

Typo…

[harsh acorn]

ah understood. I was frozen trying to decipher the meaning

[cobalt abyss]

my bad.

[harsh acorn]

how are you khuaa! in school?

take that back rn >:(

nobody gets to bully khuaa

how's it going

[cobalt abyss]

I have ok grades i guess back in high school it was usually between 94-98%

[harsh acorn]

happy converted him

[cobalt abyss]

[harsh acorn]

that's an A, good enough :D

[cobalt abyss]

still rather disappointing

https://tenor.com/view/anime-elf-surprised-surprise-shock-gif-4012997033321177703

[harsh acorn]

perfectionist

[wraith fjord]

didndt you quit

[harsh acorn]

he did

[cobalt abyss]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1084516534434680922/1113257888274727042/ZRKR88CH1QE5NH537R.gif

[olive jewel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1084516534434680922/1113257888274727042/ZRKR88CH1QE5NH537R.gif

[hybrid breach]

and?

[serene mantle]

hey everyone!! new here, does anyone have this image with good quality?

i heard i could get it on discord

[gilded sapphire]

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[serene mantle]

thanks!!

[reef flicker]

nah I'm good I decided after Rem Emilia and Shuna to go for Rimuru

[olive jewel]

LETS GOOO

[uneven veldt]

any point chasing A lan rn or is M good enough

[past oar]

409 is her min so u need A

[olive jewel]

🇨🇦 🏒

[hybrid breach]

my 409 lan has caused me much pain 🥀

[shell axle]

on the guide says to always use the faction scrolls on tumulars, my ivan/randle and mira already are ascended, i keep using them on tumulars?

[uneven veldt]

can switch to tree people or lb

just not furries

[past oar]

lack of atk bounty has caused my lan much pain 🥀

[shell axle]

alright, and i have an "newbie" event where i can transfer all resources including the "ascend" to another character. I was thinking into transfering this raine into palmer

is that bad? or has another characters to "wait" since i cant use on awakeneds and dragons

[uneven veldt]

wait until last 3 days and ask again

dont rush this, what if you get more copies

[shell axle]

okay, i'm kinda stuck rn since i just have 1 team for 31-4

[uneven veldt]

very normal

did you get 1 copy of elthara?

[shell axle]

unfortunely no

[hybrid breach]

omega finally got her dupes done so shes 27f should help but the lack of star can be quit the hinderance at times

[shell axle]

i got like 3 Ashemiras but no elthara

[uneven veldt]

can try to snag one

its a hb in the dragon summon area, not the TE poll

u summon with a red ticket

[shell axle]

already tried too

[uneven veldt]

damn rip

new hb coming which will give free ticket, can try then ig

[shell axle]

gonna wait for it, thanks for all the help

[uneven veldt]

welcome

[vapid pumice]

Up pls

[harsh acorn]

=sgprio

[gilded sapphire]

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[vapid pumice]

So I focus lava now ?

[harsh acorn]

yep

[vapid pumice]

Into orthos but what’s A?

Awakened without star?

[olive jewel]

Ascended yes

[hybrid breach]

https://tenor.com/view/afk-arena-dolly-tavern-summons-diamonds-gif-19734456

[vapid pumice]

Ok mb ty 🙂 Selene have no value imo?

[hybrid breach]

value yes, early not really

pretty mid overall

[dusk gazelle]

is tarnos any good ?

[hybrid breach]

not anymore

[vapid pumice]

Ok ok for awakened idk who I can focus after estrilda

[dusk gazelle]

for early game viable ?

[hybrid breach]

no not really

old pvp hero

[olive jewel]

Who do you have

[olive jewel]

Bud my heart beat is going a mile a minute bud

[hybrid breach]

whats wrong bud

[vapid pumice]

Actually shemira/athalia/envidiel/thoran

[olive jewel]

Nothing wrong bud. Winding down after Canadian overtime hockey win

[olive jewel]

Fawkes next imo

After WEst

[vapid pumice]

I see he’s strong imo so I can skip Lyca ?

[olive jewel]

Yes. What priority are you looking at?

[tepid totem]

lycas dead

[uneven veldt]

da,m watha

[olive jewel]

Cause Lyca should not have been on any list for a while now

[uneven veldt]

isnt that unit prety dead now

id switch her for west in anni and get fawk

[olive jewel]

Watha? Or Wyca?

[uneven veldt]

watha

[vapid pumice]

I don’t have priority my account is behind because I didn’t reset it so I would like to clear all content

[uneven veldt]

its mostly just rent no?

[past oar]

wyca cute but dead af

[olive jewel]

She's still ok in PvP and NC meta

[vapid pumice]

Actually I kill 2/6 boss in nc

I can focus icariel too ?

[olive jewel]

icariel doesn't really have much use right now

basically exists entirely to level your oath mastery

[uneven veldt]

can do pippa

p good at high invest

[vapid pumice]

Idk who I can focus here

[uneven veldt]

just do dragon after you have the good 4f units

most of 4f gets powercreeped away anyway

[vapid pumice]

Dragon ?

The element ?

[uneven veldt]

dragon summons

theres like 10 4f thats actually good, after getting all of to A1 you should do dragons instead

[vapid pumice]

Ah ok I don’t have all hero 1 star so it’s better to focus dragon with diamonds?

What’s better 4f hero ?

[uneven veldt]

randle ivan mira gorok misha palmer jerome alvida

[olive jewel]

honestly maybe fewer

[uneven veldt]

then the red panda and fox girl with a bag

[olive jewel]

Talimar

[uneven veldt]

talimar yes, thats her name

[harsh acorn]

talimar, gorren,

[uneven veldt]

those are about it

[vapid pumice]

I have all of them

[uneven veldt]

then go for dragon, point less to pull more 4f

[harsh acorn]

then hold diamonds until next dracolite release.

[uneven veldt]

do 300 for every new dragon coming out

is the ideal

[vapid pumice]

Who I up on dragon ?

[dusk gazelle]

how's selene (early game) ?

[olive jewel]

Valufira Sion Begris Tavriel Melion. but save for next one for now

[olive jewel]

not great

[vapid pumice]

Ok ok and with card I finish lan?

[uneven veldt]

She does a bit of everything but unless Giga late game ts she not used

[olive jewel]

She should be good in early game TS she just inst worth building until later

decent in CR too but thats a whole other thing

[dusk gazelle]

for now im using my elite randle

[uneven veldt]

1 copy of elthara and finish lan to A

[uneven veldt]

If u this early then don’t bother

[vapid pumice]

Only a or A1?

[uneven veldt]

Focus on your first 10 4f first

[uneven veldt]

A is good enough

[dusk gazelle]

chap 6

[vapid pumice]

Elthara with one copy is strong ?

[uneven veldt]

Yes

[uneven veldt]

Focus on spending diamonds on 4f normal pulls

[vapid pumice]

Ok I have 100 tickets I can have her

[dusk gazelle]

4f ?

[uneven veldt]

Cele too expensive for you u need comps for early games first

4 factions

[dusk gazelle]

im just using normal pulls rn

[uneven veldt]

The normal banner

[uneven veldt]

I’d do 1 copy of her then wait until you save enough for lan A

[dusk gazelle]

how people get so much randle copies ?

u can maximise luck ? (oother than wishlist)

[uneven veldt]

Reroll

[vapid pumice]

I don’t pool her rn?

[olive jewel]

just spending time. if you are chapter 6 you are probably only on your first day right?

[uneven veldt]

U pull elthara then save until you have enough for A lan

[olive jewel]

This game is very slow

[dusk gazelle]

yes

[vapid pumice]

Ok ok t’y

Can o have help for my nc team pls

[uneven veldt]

Nc you can check Reddit

[harsh acorn]

you probably just need to play for fun. that account is too far behind to be competitively viable

[uneven veldt]

That’s what I do

[vapid pumice]

I juste need to clear not to be competitive

[flat tundra]

is there some file with minimal investment for heroes to be usefull in late game?

[harsh acorn]

its incredibly difficult and time-consuming to offer non-meta advice about RGMs. either you get a very good friend to help you, or you need to try and figure it out yourself.

not many will be willing to put time into something like that.

[harsh acorn]

you can try using the afkit bot. mostly you learn as you play though. just ask before doing investments

[uneven veldt]

https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/1r5ovlm/did_squirrel_queen_mistake_egghead_for_an/

[vapid pumice]

Ok ok np ty 🙂

[vapid pumice]

Ty I will see this

I up cha/sung and laios?

[brittle warren]

Who should I si30 or 40

[harsh acorn]

he won't be able to follow that guide successfully. missing too many heroes and min invests on that acc.

[uneven veldt]

You can rent carries and fill it out with your own hero’s

[charred jetty]

When do we get saitama

[uneven veldt]

I already got him

[charred jetty]

Oh do we have saitama already?

Yoooo campaign gang?

[uneven veldt]

yesterday

[charred jetty]

I get 10 more RC

[vapid pumice]

E30/e60 or nothing

[charred jetty]

Which lets me push exactly 0 more stages

[uneven veldt]

Can retire my Alna

[charred jetty]

Sai does sound fun though

[uneven veldt]

Heard tornado do good damage, some using her over rem, is that true?

[charred jetty]

I was thinking of dropping Alna too

[charred jetty]

I heard this too

I have no idea though, would have to test it on a new account myself

[olive jewel]

Tornado being good plot twist?

[grim hamlet]

shes not lol

but in early game you're facing only heroes missing invests from like what, more then 5 years ago at this point?

being bad in relevant places that decide the meta doesn't mean you don't work in early camp

[vapid pumice]

And saitama too I see him for beat the 6th boss

[brittle warren]

? Ts/nc.

[grim hamlet]

where?

[inner olive]

gorren is a bear not a panda 😡

[olive jewel]

I think Saitama wants si30

[grim hamlet]

I mean I definitely wouldnt' in pvp. He does a lot more then her in everything except protection of your fellow frontliner. For that part shes still better I think, he's not really absolute protection at hte start hte way she is. And either way surely you have space for both

[olive jewel]

does Saitama want si30?

[grim hamlet]

in camp I have no idea. Anything less then absolute protection tends to be the same as no protection at big deficit I feel. but maybe not, its never clear to me what does and doesn't work in camp and why

[brittle warren]

More than sjw/albedo? also have option of si40 for Marci/cha

[olive jewel]

tough to say. Albedo is way way way better with si30 but still isnt great rn

[grim hamlet]

I think he's supposed to be fine without it most of the time. But I'd guess he probably wants it for cr

[uneven veldt]

opm collab in general isn’t all tha compare to previous

[grim hamlet]

my understanding is he doesn't need it in NC (though haven't tried myself yet) even though it increases his buff. Which likely means its not particularly important in pvp either other then winning mirrors and such. CR is much more damage over time though so the buff probably add up there

[olive jewel]

Better than the Witcher

[uneven veldt]

it happened?

[olive jewel]

Geralt and Yennifer

[grim hamlet]

no, its some other geralt and yennefer in garrison lol

[olive jewel]

saw small use here and there

but were pretty bad even on release

[grim hamlet]

name and likenesses are pure coincidence

[olive jewel]

the SNK collab also legendary bad but that's the first one so it's ok

[vapid pumice]

I up cha/sung/ laios and saitama e30 or e60?

[olive jewel]

I guess I should link my Saitama to someone shouldn't I

[uneven veldt]

Id wait saitama on si20 for now

[olive jewel]

if you were me (300 dimblems) would you wait on it?

[uneven veldt]

Cha sung laios can invest according to nc, but if you can’t fully invest 1 to the required level, I’d save

[olive jewel]

no si40 on my cha sjw or marci

[vapid pumice]

I think I can up e30 all of 3 but not si30

[olive jewel]

Chat I wanna link Saitama and Tornado to two of these heroes, who should it be

[river shuttle]

Ulmus and shemira the goats

[uneven veldt]

Then I’d hold off

E30 itself doesn’t change much, you kinda need the full investment for these hero’s to work

Check nc guide I linked you for details

[vapid pumice]

They can be useful for campaign too no?

[uneven veldt]

Eh campaign is sorta pointless after you unlock rgms

Rgms are where you get like most of the pulling resources

[vapid pumice]

What’s rgms?

[uneven veldt]

!rgm

[serene mantle]

im a new player at stage 10-24, is scarlet a good carry? i have 4 copies and i wonder if i should upgrade her to mythic or just keep my fodders to have a 160 team

[uneven veldt]

=rgm

[hollow parcel]

Hello @serene mantle,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.

[gilded sapphire]

Resource Generating Modes (RGMs)

• TR = Twisted Realm (1 team, challenge a boss for damage, rewards based on ranking)
• TS = Treasure Scramble (2-7 teams, set teams and they auto fight, pvp ranking for rewards)
• CR = Cursed Realm (6 teams, bash enemies for damage and get rewards based on ranking)
• NC = Nightmare Corridor (6 teams, try to kill all the bosses as fast as possible, rewards based on time)

Ranking Reward Distribution

https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/1hkyvyz/tscrnc_rank_rewards/#lightbox

[uneven veldt]

This is your primary way of getting stuff like pulling resources

And diamond, and red boxes and all those

[vapid pumice]

😮 top 35% nc give cards

[uneven veldt]

She is not the optimal one, a bit powecreeped

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

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[vapid pumice]

So campaign is just for fun

[uneven veldt]

Check this out, Randle early game is the best carry there is

[uneven veldt]

After like cha 40, mostly ye

[serene mantle]

i dont have randle i'm playing daimon and scarlet for the moment

[uneven veldt]

It’s more about getting the required power than figuring out teams

[uneven veldt]

Like I said scarlet isn’t the best carry, you make your own choice depending on your acc tho

[vapid pumice]

For valentine’s event I can buy chest for up si ?

[uneven veldt]

Psure baits go first if no reso18

[vapid pumice]

Sorry I dont understand :/

[uneven veldt]

If your pets isn’t reso 18 yet

You prioritize getting baits to pull pets

[vapid pumice]

Ok ok they are 9 ^^´ so I will focus baits

[uneven veldt]

That’s the idea

Pet reso 18 makes a lot of comps possible

[vapid pumice]

It’s hard too have item for up si30 i feel

[uneven veldt]

si30 isn’t that bad

40 is the worst part

[calm oak]

what is sig priority now

[vapid pumice]

I think I have max 10heros with si30 and 1si40

[olive jewel]

I would hold for now

Talimar needs it when you have her 9f and engravings

[calm oak]

but thats a year from now

[polar grail]

so is TT not used at all?

[olive jewel]

well Talimar is not really an early game hero anyway

[olive jewel]

What is your count of TEs?

[olive jewel]

Apparently she might be decent in early campaign over Rem?

but that's just word on the street

[calm oak]

38 i pulled envy a few days ago

[polar grail]

I could see that she did help with campaign a bit

but ik saitama is like everywhere lol

[olive jewel]

I can't really see anyone I would recommend for you rn then

[polar grail]

is there anyone useful after Lucilia? or no?

[olive jewel]

in SG prio?

[polar grail]

ya

o wait nvm I can just go to dragons after that

[olive jewel]

Knox Lib Aurelia Dae Alna Lysander Selene Serenmira

[grim hamlet]

depends? idk do you have any other dim prios right now?

[drowsy terrace]

=sgprio

[gilded sapphire]

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[olive jewel]

Orthros, Lavatune

[drowsy terrace]

those are before

[grim hamlet]

I'm currently sitting on more then 300 on gus to see if I want sjw 40 more. will probably depend if he ends up somewhere else in NC next week though

[olive jewel]

si40 on cha sjw and marci

not feeling great about doing any of those

[olive jewel]

yeah I'm trying to list everyone before her

[drowsy terrace]

oh dont worry bud the prio has it covered

also how you been bud?

[grim hamlet]

idk I like marci at this point. she's still an NC and CR staple and its been a while. but I understand wanting to wait with her in r2 and having waited this long already

but I'd definitely test impact of sai 30 in CR and NC first

[olive jewel]

I'm well bud

[grim hamlet]

cause its a lot cheaper and presumably some amount helpful in pvp

[olive jewel]

🇨🇦 🏒

[grim hamlet]

so if it also matters in those that's an easy choice

[olive jewel]

yeah

I will wait

[drowsy terrace]

thats nice to hear bud

[olive jewel]

it was a nailbiter bud

[olive jewel]

hope you're well bud

[calm oak]

=beasts

[gilded sapphire]

Beasts

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[olive jewel]

I would call myself CR focused rn

[drowsy terrace]

i havent watched any of the olympic games but it seems to be going well besides the protection thing

[drowsy terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-wait-gif-16738817422562026279

[olive jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-biting-tail-explosion-cute-funny-gif-441070498682892579

[oak stirrup]

5MP check

[calm oak]

=sgprio

[gilded sapphire]

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[calm oak]

what is 1 copy lysander for

[olive jewel]

hasn't been a weekly reset since we talked about it

[drowsy terrace]

ts

helpful tbh

free's up a slot in the burst comp if you have zohra

[calm oak]

i dont 😅

[charred jetty]

campaign

[calm oak]

=ts

[drowsy terrace]

oh we dont have a command for that

[olive jewel]

How important is 9f Saitama?

[drowsy terrace]

apparently not very from what hytho told me earlier today

[polar grail]

can you get highborns with the 5000 dragon summons?

[drowsy terrace]

could get like maybe 2 with extreme luck

[oak stirrup]

5000 summon? Anyone actually hoarded that many?

[olive jewel]

they mean 5000 diamond

[polar grail]

^

[oak stirrup]

At 0.1% chance sure

[uneven veldt]

seren still used?

I haven’t seen her in ages

[drowsy terrace]

i think i still use her

[olive jewel]

NC sub, could potentially come back. CR meta

ok in PvP

[oak stirrup]

Serenmira is CR meta?

[olive jewel]

isn't she still like 2/6?

[oak stirrup]

No idea I just don't recall last time of ever using her

[olive jewel]

maybe I used her as sub and forgor idk

[calm oak]

=tree

[gilded sapphire]

Priorities for Elder Tree

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994914542440173688

[oak stirrup]

Sounds like desperate way to try to boost damage ngl

[polar grail]

so selene is not used?

[olive jewel]

Selene is

good PvP hero

[polar grail]

o ok

[shy crescent]

when is the anniversary?

[velvet jetty]

Next few months ish

[olive jewel]

april is the actual anniversary iirc

event will be around then

[velvet jetty]

Yeah, based off yearly vibes its coming soonish

Wonder if it would be more worth to swap hildy to elthara or wukong to talene/tarnos

Wukong is 5* so if I don’t swap him its a lot harder to collect another celepog

[olive jewel]

surely the HB swap

if it is allowed

[velvet jetty]

Which sucks but is what it is

Hildy is 5* too so I can just start collecting again I guess

Having 5* elthara would be hilarious

[shy crescent]

Overnight Hildy would basically disappear if they allow HB swap

[velvet jetty]

Yup

They didn’t last time, but HB were brand new. We’ll see about this time.

[autumn river]

No way they dont

[oak stirrup]

You will kill the game faster if you just hand out 700 of so DI worth to bottom tier players like that

[olive jewel]

it would be good in the end imo. We need more dolphins to have like Kaelon for example

need more mercs

[oak stirrup]

Dolphins don't need them to be ahead, it's the majority of F2P that wants them to get a bigger boost than they deserve for absolutely no effort other than playing normally, no change to the environment if they weren't given, but lots of potential harm if they were

No reason to change what isn't broken

[dawn kayak]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1461972574144565414/image.png?ex=696c7f8f&is=696b2e0f&hm=0ac0b8d693c032d1b9530408ce9066f235e2e769af31a5a79d5645e506d9a1e8&

[velvet jetty]

With the recent bit of HB being way more impactful (likely even more with the latest HB if its as good as we think) this gives a good way for some catchup, which is the intention.

[proud cipher]

How to see pet guide?

Or which do i place here if I’m new

[grim hamlet]

eh not necessarily. shards in bag don't swap so the most patient and hopeful of us storing shards in their bag for a year rather then adding stars would have him again almost immediately

[wraith fjord]

Are you storing hild shards not just getting enugne again

[grim hamlet]

Ive just been getting eugene

[wraith fjord]

How is being forced to struggle through not having the needed HBs cause even with perfect ranking it’s impossible to keep up

[velvet jetty]

Its part of the image above your message

[proud cipher]

Yes but say ref the FAQ page

[velvet jetty]

=beasts

[gilded sapphire]

Beasts

#1019445901628014723 message

[velvet jetty]

Found it

[proud cipher]

Thanks!!

[grim hamlet]

Ive been getting eugene. I wasn't referring to me. I'm pretty sure fara is doing that though for example

[velvet jetty]

I 5* both so I can’t

[shy crescent]

I have been playing for like 10 months an def not f2p and only at 7.5 hildwin copies. Anyone with 15 copies already is on a server old enough that one HB is not going to make much difference or they are a whale

[oak stirrup]

No need for Hildwin catch up, that's way way way too far since DI is nowhere near as easy to obtain as TE, swapping Gwyn or Lan is acceptable because they put in the effort, besides if they need catch up there's plenty of awakened as option

Demanding for Hildwin swap is like demanding that you get a 2 point GPA boost for free during college entrance exams

[pulsar marlin]

I think I’m at 10 hilbilly as well

[velvet jetty]

The problem with this argument, is you can use it for every single resource you get for free in the whole game

[oak stirrup]

What's a bigger threat? Two built highborn? Or one Hildwin and one not Hildwin? Exactly

[shy crescent]

Neither is a threat…

It’s like your role is gate keeping the top from as many people as you can

[oak stirrup]

If Lilith decided upon it then there's nothing can be done and no opinion, but this is from 0 to 1 and enabling it will have terrible implications

[velvet jetty]

That is what kisaka likes to do

[oak stirrup]

You could clear contents back then without highborn

[velvet jetty]

Or rather, kisaka prefers to gatekeep the top from low spenders

[cobalt abyss]

or you can take it as a form of motivation

[oak stirrup]

I don't know why all of a sudden people are demanding free highborn just because they think there's a chance

[shy crescent]

I think more players is always better. I’d things energize a player basis the are generally good. I don’t want to be one of the best at a game ten people play

[velvet jetty]

Because that is how it has always worked in this game? For years now?

[oak stirrup]

For years nobody was given free highborn

[velvet jetty]

Wokes were introduced, then became swappable

[oak stirrup]

Well except 6copies of Hildwin but that's besides the point

[shy crescent]

I haven’t seen anyone demanding anything. They are hoping for something. There is a giant difference

[velvet jetty]

Because they were introduced 2 years ago?

[grim hamlet]

yea I mean there's now been 2 creeps since dragons

[cobalt abyss]

Hbs are a lot more expensive to get than wokes tbf

[oak stirrup]

Again, TE income making it not as big of impact, DI costs way more, if they want it they better gitgud in NC

[grim hamlet]

if you're not gonna increase accessibility of old creeps as you introduce new ones then that's pretty messed up

[velvet jetty]

TE used to be just as expensive as DI

[oak stirrup]

They can improve DI over time even if it's shitty IJ sure, but all of a sudden hand out 700DI worth is wrong

[grim hamlet]

I mean idk if they'll do dragon swap. im still skeptical personally

[shy crescent]

You get di weekly for your rgms. You know how hard that is to catch up to? Why make it harder?

[oak stirrup]

You're hallucinating, I have never seen 10TE for 15USD

[open bloom]

How do I get these?

[grim hamlet]

but they should really start increasing income of staffs and dragon shit

theyve got 2 new creeps to drive profits now

[pulsar marlin]

Bud there definitely was before ships

But that was like a talene days

[oak stirrup]

Show screens, I built Talene from ground up and never recalled such a thing

[cobalt abyss]

That is something i definitely do agree with

[pulsar marlin]

I maybe old tho

[open bloom]

Anyone?

[pulsar marlin]

Dw about it

[oak stirrup]

Increase it by increasing trial levels improve NC or maybe handing out during CR is fine because you know, new motivation to make people try harder and reward those who cares about CR like Jacko

[grim hamlet]

like to donate or to be on that leaderboard?

[last robin]

some1 need to give some to you, and to get the flowers need to be abose floor 300 in TR

[grim hamlet]

to donate you get them from TR rewards while its active and theres event and daily deals

to be on that leaderboard you have to be extremely popular in the community

or have a few extremely loaded friends

[oak stirrup]

It's not extremely popular it's how low your morality can go

All these scrubs spending all day asking for flowers in channels, should have their accounts clean wiped

BecUse it's funny

[grim hamlet]

Hey I got 6.3% this week on CC and 0.5% on Gus, both with only one OM too

[open bloom]

Oh well thank you guys lol

[oak stirrup]

Hmm I could prioritise merc to you or something

Though I don't even know what you would benefit from the most

[cobalt abyss]

The cr hit on cc was really impressive ngl

Actually goated

[oak stirrup]

How high was 240?

[cobalt abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/kittyjam-jamming-jam-cute-cat-cat-jam-gif-499006987437771115

[oak stirrup]

I think 239 was like 7%

[oak stirrup]

If you climbed it by building Skylan from ground up, sure, but no shortcuts that would have costed Lilith like 300 USD

[jaunty iris]

=nc

[velvet jetty]

True but DI is not that much more expensive than original TE

[wraith fjord]

I can’t hope to compete in nc/cr without HBs

If I don’t get a kae merc it’s a lost week

Like currently I’d be suprised if anyone in decent ranking doesn’t merc or own kae

Wait I forgot that sermira si40 makes elthra work

[wraith fjord]

There’s no way 28B was only a 11% rank difference

Your telling me if I got a perfect hit and got to 221 I’d use beeen like 10percent ish

[pulsar marlin]

No way I’m ever gonna compete in cr

[wraith fjord]

I said this for a long time

[pulsar marlin]

Ye idk where kisaka getting her numbers from

We just can’t outcompete bigger trees

At least in cr and without a lot of money

[steady roost]

2700-diamond pulls
Before 10 meta 4f ascended

what does this mean in the guide

[oak stirrup]

I'll say this, if dragon swaps especially Hildwin are to be allowed, you make sure the income are good enough that the spenders who even resemble any form of big, are willing to 5* highborn, when you see like only maybe 10 people willing to do that other than Julius, yes not even robo Scars and the others are doing 5* everything, that's when you can even consider Hildwin swap

One free copy of Highborn in a box is more than acceptable for anniversary, no need for it to be 15-27

[oak stirrup]

Casual28 hit 240 with small tree

I don't remember what 239 or 240 was despite Kisaka hitting that almost all the time so I had to ask what rank it was, all I can remember is 247 was 1% bracket

[pulsar marlin]

Yeah I think you like to forget that casual dropped 15k to get to that point

He’s a really good player with a lot of money that we don’t hsve

[oak stirrup]

Still small tree, no matter what collection he forged, I'm saying it's possible, I'm not saying it's easily doable for non spender because it shouldn't be

[pulsar marlin]

[oak stirrup]

Heck I hit top 200 on alt twice

Back when my tree had so much problems I needed 300 levels to fill up to usable

[pulsar marlin]

My highest branch is 77

My tree just small for some reason

[oak stirrup]

Well then you're clearly doing something wrong since R52 should be on average way more than that

After pets you stop at nothing and go for 107 on four trees

[cobalt abyss]

How much have you spent?

[pulsar marlin]

Like 1.6k

[steady roost]

yo?

[pulsar marlin]

You diamond pull until you get 10 meta 4fs, then you swap to sg

[cobalt abyss]

…im guessing you whaled on incorrect stuff in the beginning

[pulsar marlin]

I wheled 2 dragonlites each 300

[steady roost]

im sorry what are 10 meta 4fs?

[pulsar marlin]

The wishlist heroes

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1461972574144565414/image.png?ex=696c7f8f&is=696b2e0f&hm=0ac0b8d693c032d1b9530408ce9066f235e2e769af31a5a79d5645e506d9a1e8&

[cobalt abyss]

Ouch

[steady roost]

so 10 total wishlist characters?

[wraith fjord]

Someday I will fix my tree

For now mage gets pumped in to

[pulsar marlin]

Some are more important then others yes

[timber vortex]

Is Tatsumaki investment 00000

[pulsar marlin]

I also aggressively bought out AR rewards for like 400

[steady roost]

so when i pull a total of 10 characters on my wishlist save for stargazing?

[pulsar marlin]

They aren’t too bad of a deal, but man they are expensive

[pulsar marlin]

10 characters to ascended/a1 then yes

[steady roost]

oh ok tysm

[grim hamlet]

You know kae isn't in NC right now right? At least not bis ranking or even most of the top people cause cha is better and accessible to all

[cobalt abyss]

you spent quite badly which is unfortunate

[pulsar marlin]

I also bought out monthly passes for like 3 months

Like realisitcally my acc should have only spent like 600

[wraith fjord]

Tbh kae is more accessible then the other 2 at si40 or sermira si40
Like for me for a good nc hit i need a kae

[pulsar marlin]

400 from pippa and 200 from monthly passes

The other 1k were impulse purchases

[grim hamlet]

Sjw doesn't need 40 for sub 10s

[cobalt abyss]

vip 13 im guessing?

[pulsar marlin]

Ye

I’m like halfway through vip 13

[wraith fjord]

If the round moves to a new r6 then I’ll do Che lol

[grim hamlet]

Is seren required? I have no idea. I was gonna figure it out this week

[cobalt abyss]

spending incorrectly like that really set you back quite far which is upsetting

[grim hamlet]

I have her so I was planning to use her but I thought there was other options

[wraith fjord]

I dont have sjw si30 so even a Che merc wouldn’t do much

[pulsar marlin]

Not rlly, it’s really the dragonlites I regret, everything else was just fine

[wraith fjord]

And I only have seen options with a sermirs if she pops back up again I’m getting si40 sick of it being why I can’t run comps

[grim hamlet]

Pretty sure sjw is either E or si40 in NC lol

[pulsar marlin]

I had to whale pippa to compete

My box was so giga fucked for nc otherwise

[wraith fjord]

There is definitely a reason I can’t just use a Che merc I can’t remember why

[grim hamlet]

Nothing else in between matters for him

[jade crest]

whats best collection for mira?

[wraith fjord]

@solar fractal what was the reason I couldn’t use a Che merc I remember we figured 1

[pulsar marlin]

Rn in the process of building zohra, hopefully her furn comes faster then levi

[wraith fjord]

But fr if sermirs pops up 1 more time she gets a si40 cause im sick od her

[cobalt abyss]

i know a few folks who started in r52/51 who are around the same vip level and they place rather well did you perhaps take a small break?

[wraith fjord]

Never forget the Gatcha game factor

[grim hamlet]

Damn I'm still 12 lol. Kind of wish I was 13 tbh for the increased lab coins but oh well. Spending got cut for cc so dunno if I'll ever get there

[cobalt abyss]

I get that yeah but hoarding and correct invest helps a ton

[harsh acorn]

Who was your merc last time? That or tav/no is bounty

[pulsar marlin]

Ye around 1 month

I was maintenance mode for a month

[harsh acorn]

Funded?

[pulsar marlin]

Just set teams 2 times a week and did weeklies

[wraith fjord]

Santi but we were just theroy crafting and there was definitely a reason it couldn’t work

[pulsar marlin]

Around the time I got kicked out of nihi

[grim hamlet]

Nah. I'm running Gus now. Decided to just switch cc to f2p

[pulsar marlin]

Shortly after that I went f2p for 3 months

[wraith fjord]

Imagine getting in to nihi

[steady roost]

rem still garrison priority ?

[pulsar marlin]

Then i wheled pippa

[grim hamlet]

Mostly. I may still pick up occasional perk cause gg annoys the shit out of me otherwise but nothing regular

[pulsar marlin]

Fuck gg

[harsh acorn]

Oh that’s right. Forgot Martin quit. Man, miss that dude.

[pulsar marlin]

I still need a ero coll and Ty coll

[grim hamlet]

Yea same

[cobalt abyss]

many of the known goats quit in the past half a year

[harsh acorn]

I need to retire again

Gsus returns tomorrow
I’m so excited to see the goat again

[cobalt abyss]

don’t quit on me you’re one of my inspo

[oak stirrup]

U don't get to retire, now put on that collar

[cobalt abyss]

I miss him

[harsh acorn]

[pulsar marlin]

Kisaka you should quit

[oak stirrup]

Nah I enjoy the torment of you lot too much still

[wraith fjord]

Tbh if they fuck up oath marks we could get a mass quoting

[oak stirrup]

How can oath marks possibly go wrong it's just newest hero release, yes they should make new highborn the requirement for next oath mark

[pulsar marlin]

That’s exactly how they can fuck up oath marks

[wraith fjord]

If they back date them/add to many / make it grow to harshly aka tier 4 to tier 5 being a crazy difference to the point that there is ZERO point without max

New hero’s is fine but a respectable increase is needed

[oak stirrup]

You can opt out, the reds you get from it far surpasses the needed amount so you could catch up on later times with easier releases

[pulsar marlin]

Especially since it’s so integral to competing in cr at all

[wraith fjord]

Depends how it grows

[pulsar marlin]

Like was it central that said you can’t t200 without oath?

[oak stirrup]

Oh? I though most of yous don't care about CR at all

[wraith fjord]

You can’t just skip a rgm lol

[pulsar marlin]

I don’t, clip does cuz he actually has a rank plate

[oak stirrup]

I mean it's normal to start caring if they give out DI or something but seems like most people are OK with double digit % anyway

[pulsar marlin]

Once you get to like te range stuff like oath marks matter

[oak stirrup]

Jacko cares so I would offer him aid if I could

[wraith fjord]

I’m so close to aye rang

[pulsar marlin]

A shit ton

[harsh acorn]

I just want the tech for Ts. I hate setting teams lol

[oak stirrup]

Ask GPT for it

[pulsar marlin]

Who is himmel being piloted by

[harsh acorn]

It’s annoying trying to stay t1. I’m beating T2 person without saitama, Pegasus 27, or rabbit 27 (And with Elthara M+)

[pulsar marlin]

Keep seeing him pop up in leaderboards

[oak stirrup]

Himmel is Himmel

[harsh acorn]

Himmel is himmel lol

[oak stirrup]

Hint:

[harsh acorn]

No literally that’s him

[pulsar marlin]

I know seek is someone here

[oak stirrup]

Oh right he also 52, U can learn a lot from him

[pulsar marlin]

I just forgot who seek was

[cobalt abyss]

himmel is himmel the goat

[harsh acorn]

Seekness. Tangled Depths member

[harsh acorn]

Seekness = Seekness lol

[oak stirrup]

Tentacle Depths

[pulsar marlin]

And aldarion is another guy

[cobalt abyss]

Our goated guildie

[harsh acorn]

Who are you in r52? Are you t100?

[oak stirrup]

So much goats, can prepare mutton

[cobalt abyss]

You are one of said goats

[oak stirrup]

@pulsar marlin I told you so many times if you renames to Peppa Pig and have the right profile pic U can get gud luck

I'm only affiliated but not part of FTS though

Loosely*

[cobalt abyss]

[wraith fjord]

Join TD on your adventure

[oak stirrup]

When is AE announcement anyway

Even though it's beta have to form the chemical bonds with future teammates, maybe

[pulsar marlin]

Ye I’m Randle

Rn I’m 51

I think with a bit of cooking 7t I can make it t50

[timber cedar]

[rocky jay]

how do u kill an enemy within daemia's ulti?

[tepid raft]

Twins

[grave hollow]

[glossy hare]

I am considering 409e60 Gorok for my arena comp.

[velvet jetty]

How are you liking e60 and si40 on saitama?

[glossy hare]

I love it.

He executes a ton more with it.

[velvet jetty]

Trying to consider if its worth, I have the bonus resources to do both with some spare, but si40s always sting

[glossy hare]

Yus… and some are so tempting like Goroks. 60% HP plus all the HP% that comes from getting it too, so closer to 100% more HP.

With E60 I could surely more then double his HP, hence his starting shield.

[velvet jetty]

Especially with the +300 required from needing si30 first

[shy crescent]

Man is shaltear ever coming to garrison?

[glossy hare]

Probably not. And all that come after her too.

[glossy hare]

Talk me into doing Gorok. Lol

[tepid raft]

Anyone know what fawkes lineup works in r5 nc

[velvet jetty]

Arena is really really annoying unless your team is baseline better than theirs and I almost guarantee they don’t have 409e60 gorok

[glossy hare]

My team whops ass. Only the 1T+ (5x my power) can even beat me. Lol

[timber sphinx]

Any good early game teams for guild hunt ?

[charred jetty]

@harsh acorn btw nice resource guide! Did you post it on Reddit too?

[velvet jetty]

I want to copy it but no eltharino

[glossy hare]

She works quite well even at L.

[velvet jetty]

But good enough for arena?

[glossy hare]

Rent a Cha, use twins and other supports.

[glossy hare]

Yes lol

[timber sphinx]

Day 3 account still no twins

[charred jetty]

Post team plz

I need a good team too

[glossy hare]

She is just being used for her enormous burst damage to let Saitama get easier executes, which she still does effectively at L.

[timber sphinx]

Here my box

[charred jetty]

Make sure to follow =todolist

[gilded sapphire]

Beginner TODO-List

1. Read and follow =wishlist
2. Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
3. Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
4. As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
5. Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia :athaliaAwakened: (look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible
6. Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
7. Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
8. Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
9. Use Ivan :ivan: + Randle :randle: or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest.
10. AFK
11. Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
12. After ch16, go to highborn pulling area and pull until you get exactly 1 copy of Elthara :elthara: . She is an awesome hypercarry at 1 copy in early campaign and TS.
13. Repeat steps 8-10 until you hit ch31

Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn

[dapper gate]

anyone want to help me semi-deep dive my NC rounds in #nightmare-corridor trying to understand where im messing up

[charred jetty]

What happened to the emotes

[charred jetty]

Nooooo I had a feeling it would have skylan

Rip me

[glossy hare]

Those and Cha.

Mines available if you’d like to merc it. My id is 7234145. Search it to find me.

@timber sphinx

[timber sphinx]

I really appreciate it man omw

[timber sphinx]

Did u get my request

[glossy hare]

Yup

[glossy hare]

This is Cha. In case you don’t know.

[past oar]

how tf do u not have skylan

[timber sphinx]

Nah man i am a big solo leveling fan

[glossy hare]

There’s lots of characters, wouldn’t blame anyone for not knowing who is who when new lol

[timber sphinx]

Team slots doesn't matter much right ?

[timber sphinx]

I am a returning player so all good

[charred jetty]

I’m the most f2p player ever

[glossy hare]

Keep Cha and Atheus in front row

[charred jetty]

[past oar]

[glossy hare]

If you have Fennec Fox(Winged Lion), use that pet.

[charred jetty]

Just been hoarding, skylan didn’t really make sense to get

And the longer i wait the less he makes sense to get lol

[timber sphinx]

Just unlocked pets so not yet

[oak stirrup]

TS check

[glossy hare]

Then suddenly he became mega-meta outta nowheee

[timber sphinx]

I have only the basic blue

[past oar]

if new hb flops might be time for skylan

[charred jetty]

Nah it’ll just be time to keep hoarding

[past oar]

bruh

[velvet jetty]

Dayun

[charred jetty]

I’m hoping to swap for skylan

[past oar]

same

[charred jetty]

Might be hopium, but we’ll see

[past oar]

surely this year we get swap

[glossy hare]

They didn’t allow Highborns last year, we can only hope. I’d do Hild for Levi.

[charred jetty]

Surely….

At least Dgwyn

[oak stirrup]

Are you going to pay for Lilith the cost of contract breach?

[charred jetty]

Who I randomly have 7 copies of

[past oar]

7???

[charred jetty]

Oh Levi is a big one

[charred jetty]

Vinny pulled like 5

[oak stirrup]

How is Vinny

[charred jetty]

From random dragon scrolls

[past oar]

what the actual fuck

[glossy hare]

I don’t think that’s the problem. It’s like they just suddenly stopped supporting garrison updates. They don’t break contract cause they are 100% free, and not technically owned by the renting account.

[charred jetty]

He’s busy with med school, on break now though

[charred jetty]

It’s crazy yeah lol

Plus the free copy of skylan

I can almost get him for free

[glossy hare]

That work well enough?

[past oar]

thats some insane luck

[oak stirrup]

You're not in charge of the company so you and I won't know the inner workings, but I have no reason to believe Lilith suddenly become assholes because they always tried to make dims accessible before, it started at Shalltear so I still think Overlord saw through something didn't like it, and added new terms on contract before rerun

[timber sphinx]

@glossy hare do i go with the same team for soren ?

[velvet jetty]

@glossy hare do you have levi?

[charred jetty]

Or alternatively unluck if we don’t get swap or we can swap Hildwin

[oak stirrup]

And then all other collabs later down the line, followed suit

[charred jetty]

[glossy hare]

Yup that’s fine.

[timber sphinx]

Alright thanks

[charred jetty]

Nah they probably caught on

[glossy hare]

[oak stirrup]

And when you repeat thighs many times they stopped caring

[charred jetty]

The timing is too perfect

Immediately after overlord rerun all garrison stopped

[velvet jetty]

If you did, would you put him in the arena team?

[charred jetty]

I wonder why that might be

[past oar]

you gonna be in shambles if they give hb swap and everyone loses hild, no more tasi cheese

[glossy hare]

No.

[charred jetty]

I stopped using tasi cheese

[past oar]

huh

[charred jetty]

Campaign is too easy now

[past oar]

but like pushing on someone else's acc

[charred jetty]

I am literally at the point where the past 4 multis I just autoed without envy

Don’t need envy anymore

[charred jetty]

Oh

Well if they have Fawkes and skriath it’ll be fine

I recently pushed farara to like ch77

Was fine

[past oar]

i do have those, guess camp is just easy now

[charred jetty]

No need tasi cheese or charm or thoran cheese

[dapper gate]

surely i get some DI with this

[glossy hare]

@velvet jetty Every team I’ve seen with him in my arena is very easily defeated. So, he doesn’t have the best performance in arena for whatever reason.

[charred jetty]

He didn’t have elthara, so had to use envy

[past oar]

fara doesnt have elthara? what

[charred jetty]

I forgot did you get a big acc?

[charred jetty]

His alt

[past oar]

i did

[charred jetty]

The 随便的Farara one

[past oar]

ah the one waiting to get hit with negative dia

[charred jetty]

Ye lol

[past oar]

tbh big acc kinda boring

[velvet jetty]

Interesting. Thats the problem I was hitting. Trying to get my arena team such that life stops being pain

[charred jetty]

Wow okay I need to set teams

[glossy hare]

In my experience, Arena is all about having the biggest burst team you can accomplish.

[charred jetty]

Lowkey yeah…

[past oar]

ez just use fara guide

[charred jetty]

The game is much easier when your account is big

[charred jetty]

Yeah I’ll do that

I don’t have skylan though

Which sucks

[past oar]

yeah nothing left to get, just hodl and dragons

[charred jetty]

R12 literally everyone and their moms has skylan with 4-5 HBs total

[velvet jetty]

What pet are you running? Owl?

[charred jetty]

F2poor moment

[past oar]

and no sense of acomplishment since i didnt build the acc i just got it

[charred jetty]

Hey you get good ranks

[proud cipher]

Any recommendation?

[velvet jetty]

Yeah, my big account is satisfying because it took years

[past oar]

i feel better about getting good % on alt than getting 1% on main

[proud cipher]

The other tank im usimg is thorn/brutus

[glossy hare]

Yup

[past oar]

im in r11 without skylan lol

surely with hb swap i can just get rid of gwyn

[dapper gate]

i feel the same in r42 every comp i look at has skylan it sucks

[glossy hare]

There is no guarantee there will be Highborn swap. It was disabled last year.

[charred jetty]

I see

[past oar]

i know im just hoping

[dapper gate]

past 2 years it was disable iirc

[charred jetty]

So it’s just a severe case of skill issue on my end

[dapper gate]

they were out in 24 right?

[charred jetty]

Can you drop username so I can copy

[glossy hare]

I’m roughly R11-r6 with him. My arena became stacked AF. Lol

[past oar]

i use fara guide lol it has no sky version

[charred jetty]

Really? Okay I need to use that guide lol

[glossy hare]

I was just bullying the lower 1T. They will retaliate later lol

[past oar]

yeah its been a real blessing since i dont have to ask for ts help every week

[dapper gate]

i need that guide as well

[past oar]

its on reddit

[charred jetty]

Oh I also don’t have kregor or Mae

[glossy hare]

Whaaaat

[charred jetty]

Fire is just such a terrible debuff for me

[past oar]

that makes it worse lol

[dapper gate]

i have smol kregor no mae

[charred jetty]

I have nothing

[past oar]

why dont u have mae

[charred jetty]

I’m literally the most f2p player ever

Well I can get her

But lowkey MS chests having her makes not having her an RGM

[glossy hare]

I haven’t really spent to summon heroes since long before Highborns, and even then I was a very small spender. Lol

[charred jetty]

[proud cipher]

How people get randle to M within 2 days of server as f2p? I’m watching a vídeo but i cant even ascend more than 3 héroes to L and i would use other héroes to make that xd

[past oar]

ms so rare now it doesnt matter

[charred jetty]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1461972574144565414/image.png?ex=696c7f8f&is=696b2e0f&hm=0ac0b8d693c032d1b9530408ce9066f235e2e769af31a5a79d5645e506d9a1e8&

[glossy hare]

Push lots of game modes for rewards, then get lucky with the summons.

[charred jetty]

Make sure you complete =todolist

[gilded sapphire]

Beginner TODO-List

1. Read and follow =wishlist
2. Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
3. Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
4. As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
5. Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia :athaliaAwakened: (look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible
6. Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
7. Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
8. Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
9. Use Ivan :ivan: + Randle :randle: or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest.
10. AFK
11. Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
12. After ch16, go to highborn pulling area and pull until you get exactly 1 copy of Elthara :elthara: . She is an awesome hypercarry at 1 copy in early campaign and TS.
13. Repeat steps 8-10 until you hit ch31

Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn

[charred jetty]

Plus you don’t need Randle anymore

Oh actually that’s so exciting

HB drop soon

[past oar]

new meta for early camp?

[charred jetty]

I’m going to start an alt

[proud cipher]

I’m struggling about Lf a friend with 409e60 awthalia, nonenof the people Ive add has it

[past oar]

dont tell me its l elthara

[charred jetty]

You know L elthara literally carries until like ch76

[velvet jetty]

Wat. When did this happen

[charred jetty]

[past oar]

wtf

[charred jetty]

Yeah idk why they dropped such an op hero either

[past oar]

cant even call it inting since she good in ts and cr at l

[charred jetty]

Beyond me tbh

[proud cipher]

Okay, i got randle 20 mins ago, i was using shemira as dps and tank xd

[charred jetty]

Yeah we had a discussion and it got approved

=earlycamp

[gilded sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565578751715573770/1470865676133466318/EarlyGameCampGuide.png?ex=698cd9e8&is=698b8868&hm=8b645e46d785bb2fd51af1d9919dce3d58354f2f56bffdf01cd68b687899bc5a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1210&height=726

[charred jetty]

See literally don’t need Randle

[dapper gate]

alright no mae kaelon or seren if i run shall _____ hild melion zohra who should i sub in there?

[past oar]

the thing is she's really good at l and doesnt get that much better at full build

[charred jetty]

That’s probably an exaggeration, but won’t need until ch31

I’m going to go through and rework the =earlymulti guide

[gilded sapphire]

Early-Multicomp Campaign Guidelines

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/618027271906918400/1444410826961322146/8v0Ga9h.png?ex=692c9be9&is=692b4a69&hm=16420762014c1675ddadad22154602562ffb94068ae6bb51648f888bebdb0421&

[charred jetty]

Elthara changed everything

[past oar]

the hard part is getting her lol

[charred jetty]

NC being trash for new players also changed stuff

I think people just don’t build Bert until late game now

[past oar]

where do even new players get di

[charred jetty]

New HB drops 50

Plus discounts that’s 62

[proud cipher]

I was using this comp, sometimes brutus tank , should i change and use this héroes instead?

[past oar]

yeah but outside that

[charred jetty]

And code

They are guaranteed

[dapper gate]

yeah so about 10 new drops and you have enough to build one

[charred jetty]

When oddy drops, it’s literally the best time in the game to start

[past oar]

also idk about bert, only celehypo good in ts is alna and you losing resource by pulling her

[charred jetty]

IJ gives 20

Codes often give 10

[dapper gate]

honestly praying on oddys downfall so i can build elhara but its not looking likely

[past oar]

often? dont think i see code with di more than twice a year

[charred jetty]

But elthara is so monumental that people should unironically spam reroll until they get one

[charred jetty]

Oh maybe not so often then

[past oar]

reroll meta finally reached afk

[charred jetty]

But yeah

[dapper gate]

i still havent gotten L elhara im waiting for discount

[charred jetty]

I reached out to Lilith

I’m pushing for guarantees HB first 10x

Similar to SG

So people don’t have to sit and reroll

[past oar]

can u tell lillith to stop releasing the fucking colls? thanks

[dapper gate]

PLEASE

[charred jetty]

Dear Lilith, Gankpeter says we need colls every 3 months

[past oar]

i have perk 4 and i suffer every week

[charred jetty]

Just hoard harder

I have a stockpile of 40 MWs for the new sust and sorc colls

[past oar]

wtf

[charred jetty]

[past oar]

bud i dont even have is colls, im lacking so many basic colls

took me 5 weeks to get begris coll

[dapper gate]

can we just go back to artifacts pls

[charred jetty]

I’d honestly just hoard for now

[glossy hare]

So is every non-spender. The chance of getting a successful run is so slim that most F2P should only have crap still lol

[charred jetty]

We’re probably going to need new ones soon anyways

[past oar]

thats the plan but damn it hurts

[charred jetty]

I sat on my totems for like 8 months until south wing

[past oar]

with perk ill be able to save enough unless they release the colls the patch after hb

[dapper gate]

ive just accepted defeat on colls at this point

[grim hamlet]

Nah that's not really true. I mean idk maybe in TS the improvement is kind of marginal but she's basically unusable at L in other rgms. And currently bis in everything

[charred jetty]

I mean not for new players though

[grim hamlet]

Oh sure yea

[past oar]

when u compare her usage at l and full build vs other hb at l and full build its massive

[charred jetty]

She’s just a beast everywhere at L until much much later

[grim hamlet]

Well yea I mean the others are useless at L

[charred jetty]

Like 60 chapters later

[past oar]

not a single hb usable at all, elthara very good in ts and usable in cr to some extent

[grim hamlet]

She has actual rgm usage at L

[glossy hare]

[past oar]

same with almost every hero, she's just too good at l

[dapper gate]

should i just not wait for discount and grab an L copy rn?

[charred jetty]

All my arena krakens are using some loaded skylan westy velu comp though

I’m jus getting cooked

[dapper gate]

at 450 DI so i wont even be able to pull most likely on oddy release unless i whel the ship

[past oar]

i have 550 di and a dream

[grim hamlet]

I see stuff like that a lot. At even Rc I just send Fawkes seal at it and it's fine

[charred jetty]

Nah L elthara won’t do much for you

Just wait for discount

If you were like ch21 I’d say just pull

But at ch61 it’s like not that amazing

Still good enough to win

[dapper gate]

yeah she might help like a little in TS but not much i guess

[charred jetty]

Which is better than 99% of Carri’s in the game

[past oar]

wonder how l elthara does in early ts, must be some cracked shit

[charred jetty]

But

[grim hamlet]

Yea you're way past new player stage

[charred jetty]

Dude Alvida 40 + L elthara sounds like a nightmare come true

I don’t think a single comp beats that

[grim hamlet]

Saitama

Eats it for breakfast

And everyone has him

[past oar]

ealry ts doubt u even need vida, just slap atheus or some shit

[grim hamlet]

So....

[charred jetty]

O

But okay that’s 1 comp

The other rbsg ones yeah good frickin luck beating a 50% endgame TS comp

[grim hamlet]

Gorren also eats vida

But needs some amount of build

[past oar]

not that many gorrens and needs build

[grim hamlet]

Not that much though

[glossy hare]

Most people will never pull the trigger on what you need to maximize him. 409e6x Atk node, 26 Furn for all Atk furn and a Atk coll.

[past oar]

maybe early ts meta is l ellthara + l fawkes

[grim hamlet]

He doesn't need any of that to eat vida though

She has 0 hp

20330 gets it done

[past oar]

l fawkes should have enough survi with 8s delay and 4 cheat deaths

[past oar]

early ts its not that small

[glossy hare]

Fair lol. But more is better. He is truely a PvP monster worth the investment. He regularly executes half HP heroes in my arena.

[grim hamlet]

That's not actually a hard requirement tbh. He executes without any investment

Where he's useful in early ts idk

[past oar]

tbh i have no idea what he does except giving energy with furn and executing lol

[glossy hare]

But ridiculously more with investment.

[past oar]

i guess

[grim hamlet]

Energy? You mean interest and guard (shield)?

I don't think he gives any energy does he?

[past oar]

we talking about gorren no?

[grim hamlet]

Oh

Yea gorren gives energy, mb

I thought we were on sai

[glossy hare]

He gives the other frontline multiple layers of death protection. Along with 45% of all his guard at 9F. He starts in a state of invincibility. CC immune. Executes, which ignores shield values and only looks at HP. Stuns, but that’s minor. He doesn’t do damage, but he doesn’t need to, he can execute for enormously large HP ranges.

[grim hamlet]

Is it actually worth packing attack on him? So far I've just seen people running fatk. Did you do some testing around this and he performs a lot better with attack?

[charred jetty]

Oh yeah the other disgusting combo

Fawkes + elthara

If they do Fawkes first woke

[glossy hare]

Yes, 2 different functions of his execute scale off of atk. So it doesn’t just help a little, it helps a lot.

[charred jetty]

I’m pretty sure you’d get like 100% WR

[past oar]

l fawkes might be enough for that

he doesnt get much more survi from invest

[charred jetty]

O

Wait hold up

[grim hamlet]

But like is this from kit read or you've seen this? Cause he's been out for two months now and even people with built sais haven't really been talking about him as an execute machine

[charred jetty]

L Fawkes + L elthara

[past oar]

l fawkes + l elthara then ashem

[charred jetty]

What is this game

[grim hamlet]

Other then making mincemeat of vida

[past oar]

i just said that 10 minutes ago

[charred jetty]

Oh

[glossy hare]

It’s okay. I find that Fawkes is the limiting factor. A burst team will kill his team before he can get out all his coffins.

[charred jetty]

I was going through my mail

[past oar]

lol