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How many copy is needed to asc a dragon sp?
12
maybe on 30 onwards u can atleast use blue chests who knows
I think
They need to make it so we either get a steady income of dragon sig mats or let us use red chests
Maybe they will update emblem chests to include Draconis emblems.
Hopefully
Nearly there to 700k dias 
At least we can use the same old emblems for taking the heroes to +20.
You can summon a ton of draconis with that
Can we?
Yes.
We only see two type of new emblems.
So yeah, Primordial and Amplifying emblems can be used.
Will nullify most of the dragon temple rewards though
I bet they made that change on purpose
To generate demand for the threat emblems
Not just these 5
So having extra income of emblems with the events and reds will balance out
That would make sense, probably as many as a normal 4f faction
The two new types of emblems are just used for Draconis signature items after +20.
Yeah threat emblems
But will probably be added to reds
Hopefully one day, we will get a proper Draconis tower.
Yes. 21 up. Where the serious players and spenders lie in
And epic chests
Sig 21-30 is a breeze
No major issue anymore
Sig 30s are pretty easy nowadays
It's the 40s that are rougher
True. Thats why i see them changing the supply for 21-30 drac emblems
I see them adding the supply cause of the sheer number of heroes I think they'll be adding
There won't be enough from just events
For 20 heroes
If they match normal faction count
Maybe in the future though. For now i see a lot of income generation just from the paying players buying threat emblem packs
So just adding threat emblems to red and epic chests is something I can see happening Maybe not immediately but soon
I'm sure they'll get complaints if not done right away and income Is too low and then they'll change it
how do u get draconic embs
oh
i know they give u 200 per mail at the start
The complaints will always be there.
But seeing as how test server players are buying the emblem packs.. the genius in Lilith who came up with the supply change for emblems might even get a raise instead.
They really need to give us more epic emblem income though
For sig 40s
The temporary bonus 10 per day from team bounties could have been a permanent addition
I was so surprised when it changed to 2
jup and it would still take ages
With all the heroes wanting 40 it would still take a long time with that but only getting 2 a day Is rough
It was an event giving another 10
60 days
I see, was limited time only
They should have had it be permanent
Correct
They just need to increase epic chest income
By a lot
Add them to events
Give us more from the bounty
Something
MS
Is this an ok place to flex cause I got something kinda almost insane
sure go ahead
Hello guys. i am new in this game. can any1 tell me which hero is the best for the beghining? i can purchase some packs also if it helps a lot from the start. thank you all.
oh that really is lucky
head to the questions chanel and ask there
its a shame they arent very good heroes but still lucky pulls are lucky pulls
4th day / new server / returning player / advancement pack bought so far
I heard ezizh is super good at 1 dupe, Lucius meh
ask this in the questions channel
I did, but there are some other discussions
ok tnx
Does anyone know how the Chinese players feel about the new faction and gatcha system??
There are a few problems, but I don't think there's anything major imo
Stargazing will be extra difficult for f2p lol
Building a celehypo will be as hard as building an awakened hero
bruh dragon "tree" doubled my cmbr. was 6xxB before
Didn't need to quit just had to go f2p 
i only completed "first branch" as well
With his money spent maybe could've asked to get moved to test 
show total stats
Will we get 200 free di?
Ril shit
At least give us sg swap event
Are u joking,right? RIGHT?!
Is there another page after you finish the first one? My test acc is too baby to see further 
should be ye
That's quite a lot of stats if you get multiple pages 
weird of thats enough to double it
Could just be how they calculate the DSA and DSR, as 1/3 of each are added per level per hero
istg my cmbr was 6xxB. was waiting for 888B
Just take heroes off of RC xD
You just have to wait for the 24hrs then
Hey~~ Is anyone up for Grabs on Arcane labyrinth? Because I missed out TWO DAYS AND STILL WITHOUT ME HAVING TO TEAM UP WITH... EXACTLY NO ONE... [[ γ ^γ /

I've been delayed for two days, and still...
All heroes
ok
The dsa/dsr was a formation boost when dragon is there.. I think
Also robo, the top in my LC 
You have some fun formations in the championship
oh 
It might be out of the window, but which formation (pvp) do you think Liberta/lucilla do the best with?
Dragonspeak Amplification
Whenever a hero deals Dragonspeak damage, every 1 point of Dragonspeak Amplification (DSA) increases the damage by 1%. If the target has the Dragonspeak Resist attribute, every 1 point of Dragonspeak Amplification will negate 1 point of Dragonspeak Resist.
Dragonspeak Resist
Dragonspeak Resist (DSR) reduces the amount of Dragonspeak damage a hero takes.
credit goes to felix and lll. they like lc more than i do
i just listen to them
Ah, understandable π
**Sighs! I needs friends...
Seems like DSR is the only stat that actually applies to all, unless one of the new heroes will let others deal dragonspeak damage
ashem is still a strong choice
thank you
I'm really interested if the dragons are going to make a separate formation, or will be added to existing
Maybe something like 1aw, 4 dragons, and the new beast
Hard to read
dragons will probably be used i different teams
they cn guide makers reckon dragon gwyn is the second coming, after the likes of abel
too strong

Exactly where are you getting these~~
Did u mean she will replace abel?
its projected she may form an apex pvp comp
will wait for official drop to see i guess
Abel he's been dying In pvp lately
Can you ss the descriptions for the new stats pls π?
yeah benched by alucius 
Is gwyn going to require battery comp like belinda, or maybe burst? Can't really tell, it seems like her ulti is important
Maybe with alyca
So which one is better among those two?
We have no idea yet, but we will be getting quite a bit of hildwin copies
so far testing gravitating to gwyn, very hard/fast hitting with innate cc
But if gwyn proves to be top3 unit, even f2p might have to summon right away
I was disapointed with her pfp
I expect more
is there a offical news sorce for afk arena? #gift-code is kind of a joke since the last relevant post was from january
Looks sick when pairing with alyc, 400+500 energy at the start of battle
all heroes kawan
15mins. working
Yeah gwyn looks great with alyca
cool. looks like have to build all dragons for the sake of the tree
ah ty
Essentially.
She gets a fk ton of pp so adrian is a must w her
What kawan mean?, Friend?
She looses it if enemies are close so you need knockback
well gwyneth is gonna be real whale hero
What's the build requirement for pvp for him?
Since gwyneth is ranged 403fe30 min
403fe60 ideal for pvp
Yeah the 40si is the big buff, right
Yeah 60% more damage taken
Si30 is for invade heroes only
Hes a meta hero everywhere atm so it wont hurt
Hope, she ll be doing great on abex
I am worried with her survivability
Better then abel
Since shes ranger she can dodge
Well HBGwyn is still str
She has a lot of name
, gwyneth, HBGwyn, dwyn.
Seacow gave
i guess facebook it is.. this discord was helpful as a bachelor of arts. thanks for nothing! βοΈ

Top guild recruitment requirement: You must have Dragon Gwyn built 
Gwyndolynn
In her skill description
Oh here's a nick name for her... Dragqueengwyn
Dragqueen lmao
Daeth
okay then back to the salt mines i go
Salt for beer?
nah he's working to afford the dragons
you see he's secretly a whale

Rox is working hard to produce more gula gula for the cash money to bring Gwyn home
gwyn op
im just wallowing in my salt hill. dont mind me. no mood for beer at all
Well that only means you gotta have more
think ill switch to tequila since im in my salt mine
By sure to lock your credit card by then
dont have one 
I hitted the melodic jackpot guys
Took me like 5 records to hit the pot
Feeling lucky hehe

Copium kicking in before official release 

Meanwhile I'm torn between getting reso 15 now, or just skip it, hoard enough spice and go straight from 12->18
I skipped it and used it to trick
This was the fuxkin stage .. 18 seal was requirement
It's way more relaxed tricking at 15 than saving all spices or praying
Am still waiting for new mauler to drop sometime 
misty trying encourage me to jump to draconis instead 
Nearly there to 700k dias
Okie will trick then, when I pull one more fox so it gets 15, that's when I could reso 15 any time, instead I'll build spice battery and try to get two pets to 18 at a time
Sounds Good!~
large and in charge
Ouch
Would
Don't look at it..
Cute^^

Did asulgard actually quit?
guysssssss, its the year anniversary since the Brutus Screaming meme was sent here
draconis is cool
Gang, I think I'm done 
why
game dead
Searching asulgard on afk arena reddit gives me exactly one result lol
how so
we getting 3 powercreeps in 6 months and collections are still not fixed
I would. But this game is not kind to people who take breaks 
Besides, I think I've figured it out, what this game had to offer. It was fun 6mos ngl
it is if u play casually
We'll see... Maybe when I come back again I'll make a whole new account lol.
Just gotta set a few things in order and then I'm a goner
cool
so for future release of elite dragonis, let's suppose we are doing diamond pulls, we would need to use 5000 diamonds per 10 pulls for 1/5 chance to get one copy? Use 15000 diamonds and there is still 80 percent chance we don't get the hero we want?
it wouldnt suprise me if that were the case
u might want to try inseason
's discord tho
there are more knowledgable ppl there
indeed
wow
Yep thats bad
Imagine coming and getting the account to everything maxed then quiting 6 months later
Is the dude a dev?
Was he really scared of the new faction? I doubt that was going to be a problem for him
maybe he got bored
Right as huge update is coming?
Then plays AFKJ 
yeah
Which chapter does the dragons unlock?
5 iirc
i think maybe they redid combat rating calculation?
luckily i took a ss a day before update
No
Maybe? He has the passive income to be set for a long long time


hella stronk
if they redid calc and just doubled it, i can see it happening
cause there's no way this is 2x more combat rating
that's all im getting from the drac "tree"
if it is then tree 2.0 will be more valuable then tree 1.0
Warum ist das
Why
The 1.0 tree still gives % stats, haste, acc and other things
merlin leonardo or mulan
O
Let's gooo! Easy 640 diamonds lol
Mulan and ldv are the better two nowadays I think
I love Mulan for campaign and Leonardo is used in CR
Interesting. So cbr will go up for a lot of people?
Merlin's more meta than Mulan for TS but that's also because top comps don't really need Mulan anymore
phew
When can we play the new faction ?
mine still at 1.18T when its sposed to ve 6xxB
i think it's more likely the formula for combating rating got changed vs the drac tree somehow giving 2x more with 13 DSA/DSR & 3% ATK/DEF/HP
we would need someone who hasnt summoned any and know what their combat rating was pre-patch
or we wait until it hits live
does that mean another campaign grind until combat rating limit
probably

i reckon i can get from 46 to 50
im with you on this my froggy friend
back to the salt mines i goooo
Reached chapter 65 as f2p
My ass
@trail cedar itβs real been playing since launch

Its true
He just uses al his resources into campain things
Teach md
Md
Me
Cram rc and build singles team up for pcap
well done
yeah you're the king of all f2p
its actually true hes fr f2p
How do I know what kind of teams are good for powercrep
Ashem abel lavatune liberta ivan
And sometimes abrutus
Daimia also good
Theese usually work on any single stage
I ve them all excelt lacatune
What chapt could I be with these
48 maybe
Do you ned do the 2h timer skips and shop resets?
Level 400 and not even level 650
I buy from the shop once
And the reset once
Every day?
Yep
Every day. I have been doing 200 dia a day resets since I started⦠5 years ago.
My dead f2p alt acc for over a yea and a half btw has better rc 

Dust(Gold), Poeβs(Gold) and Shards(Gold)
Option if you wanna cram, Dust Chest(300 diamonds)
Oh and the time card.
And hoe many times should I reset
2 times
It will be 100 diamonds both times. Any more then 2, it will be 200 diamonds to reset.
Absolutely
Best way to passively push purple dust, the most limited resource in the game.
I see
@trail cedar difficult to give optimal advice, depends on ur account tbh. You need the meta heroes more so then high rc
Yeah but like things like this
Buy from the shop
Reset it 2 times
Thats the most important thing for pushing campaign?
The limited 500 diamonds a day for dust has minimal effects on the time to takes to build meta heroes. Itβs always worth doing your daily resets and quick rewards.
just spread them out evenly as much as u can
That is just passively built from doing TR, but once you have enough heroes, youβll be selling spare fodder for tree juice too. So donβt worry about more then you can get atm.
Aim to unlock all 3 skills of each, from there you basically wanna max mage as high as you can.
is it still mages, i would have thought warriors would have gotten more love since rem and athalia were added
They arenβt good cause of their tree. Which frankly is one of the worst. High warrior tree is more of a last to build, before tank.
Donβt like celerity? Lol
Build the big supports up? Aka Lavatune, Liberta(ik he mage, acts more like support), Palmer, Jerome and Ivan.
I ve them all
Except Jerome and lavatune
I ve ever yhero but I barely get Jerome copies
They dont want to give me
Lava is pretty big, you working on him at least? He is 2nd priority, after Liberta, easily.
Yeah
Good!
However I m not spending my diamonds cus of the dragons
Is thst a smart thing or nah
I donβt think any of the elite dragons will be higher priority than Lavatuneβ¦ not to mention summoning elite level dragons is the same price as stargazer.
Thats what im saying
Oh, and they also need more copies to ascended then regular heroes.
But for thst new dragon event u need dragons
And u need to start it soon to keep up no?
The corse of the event is giving out 200+ dragon scrolls.
That should be enough to get you what youβll need for the events
For thst monthly/weekly eve t or what not
So I should spend my diamonds
On lavatune?
At least I think so, even if any of the dragons are highly desirable, I donβt see them trumping Lava just based on skills.
Dang
Though rn
My worst nightmare is thoran team
Always the thoran
Maybe bc of eng 37?
lol youβll never escape him
I avoid using him at all costs, but sometimes he is the best solution.
Its on autobattle for hours
Dang
I wish I didnt engrave him
Might be making it a bit harder, but eventually that will not matter.
Really?
Yup. I see engraved Thoran at these stages all the time .
Then why doesnt he work
It might be a bit of a deficit thing, or extreme rng.
Do you need a merc? I might be able to build you a team of what you have left, but Iβll definitely need a merc to to make it work:
Wait really?
U would help me make a team?
All the other 4 teams won once
So they should won again
But this one
Its crasy
Just open up the Thoran stage
I just need to see whatβs left to use
My Jerome is available if you wanna borrow him.
Smole jerome
The big one to remember for collection is a level2 Shadow Dancer
If youβre willing to send yours, go for it. The bigger the better. Lol
Got a 409fe80 and a level 3 zol col
Oh dayum
Can I add u?
7234145

Any Ideas?
I cant use him
I did it already this week
Np. You can chill on my fl and he will be ready for you next week 
Yep 3.5 years in the making
Appricate it
It depends
If u like challange then start building mezas
If not then restart it
Which is tomorrows, now todays, reset. Not long at all. 
Lol
Im a guild master
I cant even be inactive for 2 days
Lol
Btw Tasi and talene always survive
Not surprising, thatβs why I specifically said Iβd need a merc lol.
Sad to see an account like that inactive
Yea, play long enough and comp building becomes an instinct lol
Gl! The rest seem pretty cut and dry. Should be good.
Hehe
I mean
I just copy
I wish we could get some better rewarfs for campaign
Chapt?
59
You can, and it worksβ¦ but if your like me and donβt like being stuckβ¦ you learn to get unstuck yourself lol
But probs going to 60 tomorrow
I feel like at some point its super reliable to just copy pasta
F2p?
Mostly, until you reach PC, then you need to be a little creative with your bests compared to others.
Some point in the low ch40s it becomes easy
I spent 60 bucks 4 years ago
So not entirely f2p
Bought 2 or 3 AR and one elite stone pass

Made an extra acc on Test to see Draconis at the start and this happened 
Kekeke
But negligible i'd say
How many dia are AR even
Pffft. Iβm VIP14 and I still think thatβs negligible.
27k per

So it's a bit more than a celepo copy worth 
Gaaah daym
How do I summon for the dragons?
Unless you are on test, wait till Tuesday.

I donβt think there will be any change in the current reward structure of any current game modes. All the new dragon stuff will all be obtained through both new events and new dragon modes.
I hmmm lemme see
Oh, and there is a new system that powers up your entire roster, like tree does, and Iβve heard whales going from 4T to 16T after the update.
That sounds fun lol
You get a little bit from NC too
Wait what
In power?
DI from rank rewards start as low as 2 DI at 35% NC
- there's 10 DScrolls & 10 DI in shop
It's probably bugged for how it affects cmbr, even collec don't quadruple your cmbr
The fk
Yup lol
Dope! Thatβs great. Missed that.
They whaled out the system I imagine, but we will have to see lol
Tuesday. Not that long now
2 DI: 35%
3 DI: 29%
4 DI: 20%
5 DI: 14%
6 DI: 8%
7 DI: 4%
8 DI: 1%
9 DI: T200
10 DI: T50
Works
fuck im not placing anywhere that high
Im getting 50s
Yeah
Like this mf
On a good server i guess
Idk ask him of he replys
Real
gwyn is gonna be a problem
Why
Will Draconis heroes finally put Rem out of meta?
too much dmg
Gwyneth>hildwin
Nope
like its not even funny
Iβm R2. Brutal. No way a F2P is placing T100 here lol
She gets 40 pp
she does abel dmg in wathalia speeds
Talking bout nc lol not cr
Even worse lol
im S447 btw
Your time is bad for a player at your time spent
good lord
Ik some other f2p players at least 30s less time
Do you do anything other then copying n1 there?
Dang
My pets arenβt 18. I slacked 
Confirmed?
im literally watching the guild trials from FHG
Fhg and volkin are nubs
Lol
sure but theyve got the content available, i dont listen to it i just watch it too see the numbers and interactions
Fhg prolly tryed gwyneth at low defecites
I was close to base 9F when pets dropped, I wasnβt gunna slow down my progress to finish thatβ¦ so Iβm a lilβ behind lol. Nbd.
Base 9?
Like every hero 9f
Isnt that a massive waste lol
enemies are at 610 so yea lower deficits
it has to be
Ive beeaten enemies 610 rc above me 
So how can i fix my account i feel like i habe one viable team and that is something with awakend athalia what units should i pull for and ascemd first im currently 4 copys away from acended shemira and 3 away from ascended liberta what heroes that i have should i engrave what are good comps i could us for Ts Cr Nc pls help would be really apreciated thanks beforehand
π³
lol
well for one stop building awakened heroes to mythic and then continuing to build another
are my tg useful for getting gwyn?
Build IvΓ‘n and ashemira and e60 them
Nope.
Unless they do an exchange event they havenβt announced yet.
I Just spent them
So they better not
how op is gwyn?
Both my accs
she seems broken
That is gunna be a harder answer question.
Might wanna wait for a clearer answer on that one.
Meh
welp at least hildwin looks cool

Abelinda dmg with aathalia speed would be too crasy lol
fucking whales everywhere
free2poor assemble
What are the shiny furnitures called

Lazarus is f2p
that pic says otherwise
Thatβs not true either! Just not a whale! Lol
bro is hacker
Bro is admin
yes
Lazarus probably either old player or inherited the account
Inherited xd
I is old. Original owner.
he bought is for 5 bucks
Old consistent dolphin spending can go a long way
What re the shiny furnitures called?
My account is only worth 5$! 
cap
Kraken indicator
Maxed furns
Does it worth it
36f?!
yep
Depends on hero
I ve nobody to f9
Yes, and no.
I ve most of the good omes f9 already
that's whale stuff
Explain
Whale or ancient
Who is good with it
Any haste is good, as long as the hero is used.
PP and MP can be good, for the big DPS.
So like aathalia?
Aye.
Just get more copies of her furniture?
easier said than done
Xd
Tenacity is good for TR, less CC is more damage.
Itβs a process, not a race. Take your time.
i do be hating collection it could have been so good but it went such a bad turn
im sure dae could use this
after the mp and the mp+1 it just did a "U" turn of baiting
this sentence hurt my brain for a second
im 18 please, im physically healthy with no history of important diseases or ental illnesses
Iβll be 18 in 3 days 
therapists wouldnt count the near death experiences highschool put me through
Any advice for me? Is turning 18 scary?
maybe because its personal, i didnt really care too much about turning 18, in fact i was writing a Math exam on my birthday
LOL
I have a math exam on my bday too lmaoo
Crazy coincidence
Mine is the result of endless procrastination tho 

Yes because

Jsut made a acc on the new server and got this π
Itβs a blessing
He should be reworked to make him an amazing control hero.
dont think the word rework exists in afk arena
nvm i faintly remember an isabella rework
Any developers that considered rework get thrown out of company window
γ γ
Amen^^
Hi forehead
Haha~
They've definitely nerfed heroes in the past
u sure i only remember them being power creeped or their stuff was bugged and it got fixed
Just pick what I like then? works for kw
reminder that she killed the game

Hi kraken
This is a masterpiece
Hey
Woooo
Whoa congratulations!
it's fixed for me now
can i eat her wings tho?
i mean is it edible
mine is getting weird. if i unequip and equip the same coll, the hero's cmbr drops
Yes, but you need to buy the plate dlc first, and get the fork from the kitchen gacha
fair mentions
Why?
...
you're just talking with no knowledge at this point
Too many build her and she has boring appearance, being literally a maid from Re:Zero.
Basically as strong as she is boring.
so over usage = she bad? or boring?
good
actually great
never use her and you're alright
Boring.
Oh yeah I wouldn't use her. In fact, I just pretend she doesn't exist.
good
Dragwyn hype anyone
HUH..
Am i doing it right?
Wtf

So with the upcoming update, max RC level will be 1055. Like, come on.
moto moto likes you

\ \o
...π©bal
should i change some of my tower into flower?
spicy kimchi that 
Amci doing smg wrong
How do u guys ve so much
Could u show mr your builds
my island has a financial advisor
Wdym

Don't have a skill issue
lmao
iykyk

Rox is a few days ahead π
Also, rox maxxed the proper bldgs asap
This is mine with 4 days remaining
Its my first time in this event. Only learned the proper placement and levelling after a few days.
Rox's gains is quite reachable with an optimized build from the start. And knowing how to roll dice correctly
Best team for Guild Hunts?
Merc a Bert, and add in supports and buffers (lava, jerome, etc)
Merc a Bert?
Who's lava??
a alright
Also, try to garrison Rem and run both Rem and Bert
I whatsoever have no clue whose name they are
Well that's one way to get a target on my back.

Are the Devs going to talk about this new update?!
Is this what they meant by going back to the essence of afk arena? Lol
The essence is milking dry out
New elite dragons are a huge diamond sink. Finally, dias will have use again now.
The highborns are strong but balanced. Not as OP as some celepogs or wokes.
Overall the update is really good. Gives more strategy choices and widens the meta
More importantly, will they be able to beat Rem and Emilia?

My first ever good companion pull
thats not normal
thats pretty slow
mine should be somewhat behind too
You think Lilith will eventually add more Rare Draconis heroes until there are three?
and the funny part is that the other 2 places have more likes than yours :wheeze;
guys anyone know why the game keep crashing ?
just started the game but it keeps keeping me out after playing 10 mins
i am in playing in android
Try repairing, it shouldn't crash at all because sometimes you take hours autobattling to pass campaign stages
If I remember correctly there is a repair function ingame on options?
Why does that sound like sarcasm to me 
Its just half full vs half empty thinking π
AwSol is like 9th or 10th most useful
Imagine being sad to have been given 3 alyca
How do you know the highborns are strong 
Been fiddling a bit in test. Also checked the preliminary results from reddit users in test
Could you show link? I haven't seen them pop up in CR NC or TS
Skills are out
Yeah I saw
Was half joke/half not
Some look pretty good
Ah
But not used anywhere yet
Gwyndolynn getting 40 pp is insane lol
Kinda surprised they aren't in NC but I'd def expect at least 1 of the Highborns to be meta in Idre
Prob Hild for Ice Shem too
Yeah 
been a while since weve gotten a dimentional.
Give us some hild or gwyn's battle report pls
Hildwin will be Eugene/Gavus tier while Gwyn will be Abel at release
People would Say hildwin broken a few days ago, now its the other way?
just my unbiased opinion
Unbiased You Say?
Maybe gwyndolynn
I dont see hildwin used there
He has insane survivablity for sure
Hild is also a normal atker too 
Alucius wasnt used either
Doesn't hildwin buff his auto massivly from his ult
No, that's his flame circles
Yeah his ult buffs his circles
The circles aren't his normals
Lilith changing the meta from ulti reliant heroes to strong autos?
Still a skill thatd not an ultimate no?
Also who knows why not both
What 
I mean they are shifting from mage meta
Are you going to whale Dragons misty?
Prolly not
too many heroes lately that buff autos
We haven't been in sorc meta for ages 
Abel daimia eugen trishea were op in ae
Atheus+hildwin?

Better yet gwyndolynn and atheus
Is She really the better one out of them?
Depends
Cz hildwin gonna be a cheap build
So ROI hildwin might be better
But overall gwyn might be stronger
Another waifu
She thicc
Remember Gwyn has some synergies with the new beast too
Oh yeah new beast op but at what reso?
They're both normal atkers & Aureus has better Int stats than str
The haste reduction tho
Oh and gwyndolynn just gets attack speed and damage from exra haste
is it not just attk rating?
Haste is 0.8% Atk, AS is 1.6% Atk
Ah im remembering wrongs probs lol
It does mean Aureus giga boosts her Atk% but she'll always attack omega slow
Wait
this new beast seems OP nonetheless. buffs,deny ultis,haste reduction and autos
Athur meta again?
Arthur was 20 AS iirc
Aureus is crazy because it's Moth's skill but as a start of battle permanent passive 
Oh that's a lot 
That's +60% Atk, 40% Normal Dmg & 110 AS w/ Aureus + Arthur 
And that AS is actually 176% Atk
i think Gwyn's 9f is really strong no?
It is
9F + the ult team buff is a lot of extra dmg
Both highborns nee 9f
Well they're basically an AW, obvs you're aiming for at least 30960
@kind vessel also add lavatune 80 haste
oh boy you right, arthura/gwineth was meta long ago
Wtf is oldtwins 
oh the new beast also reduces energy recovery rate. It seems to do everything 
bruh arthur might come back actually lol
Elijah and lijah
new i think he means liberta lucilla
Isn't that just Twins
no?






