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naruto's gremlin cousin
every 2 weeks like clockwork
Every two weeks is too much to keep up with
agreed
I haven’t built ginnaes or the new wilder, plus the graveborne guy is already out 😭
The hero choice pull?
Yep
My diamonds are pretty low after trying to rush daemia
😂
I wish
Same
27k poe 
if you have that then you're a whale
normally every 2 weeks isn't a problem
since half the heroes are celehypo or awakened
but we've gotten a lot of 4Fs recently
how long ago was crassio
crassio was end of march or start of april
Also, 1.121 adding QoL, nice.
And come on, my HCP hasn't reset and now we're getting another Mauler?
Well they're adding chapter 59. Now to hope for ch60 being the final chapter.
Please let the campaign end for once and for all.
they'll never stop adding chapters
crassio -> rem emilia -> no hero -> awthalia -> ginneas -> daemia -> trish -> awsaf -> ivan -> naroko
i'm surprised they're adding another mauler so soon
four 4Fs in past 6 heroes
is belinda supposed to be this op?😂
oh yeah
we got a LB, wilder and GB since crassio
awakeneds don't count
palmer and abel were close together too
😭
I had 2 Mauler fodder on wishlist due to being close to 5* all standard Maulers.
U must be excited @rancid garnet
okay i guess
when

i didnt think it was big enough for people to want one
I remember seeing some people chat in there
last fof
like perp, cero and.. mingles

whyd you have to make me cry like that
I told you I've no resources

U r g h
yes
hi perp
but people whose HCP doesn't line up well have to pick who to build first
my HCP worked out well, resets in 6 days
i want to hcp ivan but i have to build alna first :(
?
im new playa
nice
There is always time to hcp
just have to be selective if youre f2p
U choose to go for daemia stargazer
What I did before
Was always use the hcp
Before gazing
it aligns differently for newer players
since timer starts when you unlock HCP
some people have HCP start just before ivan release and will have to choose between ivan or naroko first
What Im saying is
In 2 hcp cycles
There are always 2 4f heroes
Maybe u wait 2 weeks
For the reset
But it will always be 2 to 2
wait what do you mean
sometimes there are no 4Fs in an HCP cycle
hcp for f2p is sparse I think. over time, you will naturally end up building them anyway through random scrolls and summons
if your choice is hcp ginneas or gaze daemia, then probably just go with daemia
HCP is a scam past a pretty early point
yes the 4F release rate is slow enough that you can always catch up with it in a month or two
Past an early point?
but being a month later than everyone else because of how your HCP timing lines up feels bad
it's like ch38 or somethong
not sure the exact point, but basically once like 70-80% of your core 4f heroes are built HCP becomes not worth it
I think we HCPed palmer
right before I quit
if you want to get the heroes asap HCP is the only good option
ye
but then how heavy impact are the 4f heroes
trish was needed in AE
Is fodder heroes
it's very rare that not having a 4f hero will weigh more than the 50k diamonds or so spent obtaining said hero 1 month earlier through HCP
the dynamic changes a lot whether you are f2p or not
And few for 5*
real f2p, not vip 13 f2p
if you don't HCP at all it can take way more than a month to ascend them

Before HCP

It took me
2 months is pretty lucky
with all faction scrolls going to that hero maybe
There was one
and it's still 5 heroes on the list so you can get unlucky
I started in september
I started in october
Took me september to march
hey we're probably in the same TS region
wishlist wasn't guaranteed at the start

So I think highly of hcp
just higher odds
hmm
Personal pref
did you really need fera though
But I rate hcp highly
early on probably yes
by the time you have like 65 heroes to replace him
Wtf u mean
do you really need to rush that
Fera Tasi Lyca Eironn Rowan
it's like Ivan
#gift-code message
wishlist was added may 2019
super duper meta
What?
so what
no top ranking f2p is rushing to HCP him
the returns are simply not worth the cost
ok but HCP didn't exist back then
and we are talking about HCP
Saurus released when hcp was out
in the context of modern AFK
We pretty much started at the same time
#gift-code message
and I think this is when wishlist became guaranteed, so november 2019
Youd say he wasnt worth hcping?
I don't think there's a need to flex the back then on me 
hero choice pull was 2020 i think? i dont remember
depends on state of roster
again Ivan is a very good example
he's as meta as new 4f heroes get
A 30 si saurus guaranteed high ranking spot in TR
If youre f2p
you just gaze twins to E
Since ud run Twins Saurus perma
you don't need to run A twins that early
You do understand the only juice poe gain back then
Was Twisted Realm
If you dont guarantee high spot
U lose out
if saurus is still their TR carry, they don't need to run A twins
sir aren't we talking about HCP rn in modern context

i dont think older f2p have hcp any of the last several faction heroes. most of them have been good, but not important enough to rush
Im talking about hcp being very very useful
At anytime of this game
You thinking otherwise is just a personal opinion
Just as is mine
that's factually false sir
maybe tamrus, whenever he was released
Im giving u context of what if had no hcp

like say you HCP tamrus
A whale loads up the card
the heck did you expect him to do for you
Stargazes any 4f hero
increase your TS score from top 5% to top 50?
#gift-code message
HCP was july 2020, same patch that furn was added
And just has fun
increase your CR score by 15b?
like practically speaking
what is the effective marginal return on investment for like 99% of the heroes you HCP
if that number is lower than the 50k you spent to HCP
you got scammed
and fun fact, it almost 100% will be
it's usually ~30k for me
unlike celepo and awakened heroes
Pretty big for me, considering I HCP almost all heroes
And the ones I dont I just dont
Can be seen by the fact I hcp Palmer to 1*
He is 4* now
4f heroes can be very practically obtained through random diffusion
That means since his release I got 6 of him
since you only need 4 copies
If no hcp in the world
and you get free HCP every month
well you probably shouldn't be HCPing all heroes

Its just how the game works out for me
It’s easy to summon all new faction heroes
How people struggle with this is beyond me
No
at my 30k per new hero if I didn't HCP all heroes I'd have enough diamonds to stargaze like 2 more heroes now
I'm sure I'd be real happy with zikis

@prime isle is it for free
I mean
I'd recommend not doing that
btw
what about just letting the copies come
free increase

also btw
Why miss out on heroic ship?
Why is it not
there's ~11 4Fs per year, so that's ~300-400k diamonds per year I spend on HCP
And me summoning from normal scrolls
I have a spreadsheet on this
if I didn't do that, those would go towards stargazing where my options are trash heros or stars
This
I have no idea what your prioritize your account for
The alternative is garbage
or cramming which is just masochism
But judging by that how u talk about hcp
Why would I bother ascending LeoF or Titus
I respect you for not respecting those
I respect you for respecting for not respecting those
but levels mean i can be #1 in arena
ok

Bro doesnt have 1* added when engraving is like a 3rd of the power
Which enables heroes usability
Mama mia
I don't HCP 10 copies
End my career
That’s 156k poe per year you could be missing out on.
I HCP 7 copies and get the other 3 passively
^
how much is it again
Like most people do
6k poe?
yes
100% this
Wait hollup real question
Is he the guy that gets fed vip codes
Or is that some other guy I heard about
Aggressive, but I like it
hmm looking much better actually
worth HCPing? 100% not

oh I also didn't advancement stuff
cba doing that
So you value Leofrick and Titus more than these?
I probably should
now do the math on the value of 2-3 months of being able to use that hero in TS/CR
ok
Cause that’s the alternative
assuming they've built everything else
which is usually not the case for lower spenders
Of course I have
Fr this is the important part lol
of course you have 
Trish and ivan are both in CR already
I don’t even need stars for awakened
don't think that was the topic of debate sir 
Selects are a no brainer
trish has cr use?
Yep
Yes
She’s a sub in most, and a carry in the current CR
she's being used this round, not sure if she'll be in other rounds though
if you want her to carry
this round is heavy mage focused
She’s been in the previous rounds but I worked around her
she needs to be massive
i still got 4% without her in previous rounds, but this round she is one of the main damage dealers
I e60'd her for AE
he as in me?
was hoping to use HCP on some stars but need them for mauler now
no I'm not that guy
I could just pull the let's compare boxes card
but I didn't think it was necessary
your box is inflated by your awakened luck
you started before I did, you should be further advanced if your strategy was more optimal
which is how high

I got pretty lucky on first three
if he didn't cram he'll have smaller box but also had much more fun along the way
wait let's compare who has the more built isabella, i'll go first
plus we're comparing boxes
so he's one should be even better given no cram
Jd
Ok nice
missing all those gazers from cramming though
Do you have an avg amount of scrolls
U get from vip codes monthly
what is avg amount of scrolls

I do not get vip codes monthly
No, not you, but youre shared
cap
not that vip codes actually make that much of a difference
what is this hackery
or 400 cores
Cores
wow 400
Where’s my code wtf
dang
It would be 100 if it’s 50 bait
oops yeah I misremembered
send us a code so i can find out

Though funny enough they still haven’t updated AE rewards
So it’s 400 cores instead of 500
I have bad memory
but I'm good with discord search so it seems like I know everything
bait and juice become pretty low value once reso 18/big tree
poe becomes low value once all 9fs
cores always in short supply
@split glen big tree?
107 everything is where the % increases stop
Post that point is "just" flat amounts and skills
Yeah after that it's just delicious martial stats
For martial yup
I'm getting there
🐳
I've been playing since before tree existed
could have maxed a long time ago if I actually focused it before this year
once you get it maxed it maintains itself
whales
zappy smaller spender and bigger tree than me
@tranquil atlas senpaiiiii
i focused juice from events for a while though
Damn
real
What?
still locked 
nc framoooo
Ah
Shudnt it be out
I thought you meant a new dimensional hero
maybe its tmr when nc reset 
aye aye senpai
no u
No u
popularity frames unfortunately only remind me of mugu

I’m mugu
i believe you
Give me flower

i unfortunately already did 
not enough to beat the chinese overlord that bought $5000 worth of flowers
yes
whales
no idea
I hope so
A Safiya is not accessible
Kind of a slap in the face
To finally release a potentially good mauler supp and lock her as an awakened
wokes are not accessible unless you 💳
@wise axle hi
Yeah not tryna take a year to build a hero
lilith kind of forgot about the iron fleet tidus
They forgot they already had a wolf smh
I pretty much just login and collect daily and stronghold stuff then log out Lool
Is tidus even worth investing in
no he's been obsolete for like a year
SP tidus next
another hero locked behind a paywall
Who
Id like to see an SP Erionn ngl
We just got Safiya
So that won’t be another year

It’s Gonna be tasi next 90%
I want awakened eironn or saurus so we can get a true wilder tower carry
And shemira after that 90%
but it'll be tasi
Saurus is pretty good tbh
saurus not part of the og group
I don’t think he has a chance
What is saurus again? Some kind of salamander?
Dino
Oh
saladino
I always got the vibe he'd be slimy, idk never read his lore
What
yeah saurus probably too new, eironn is same age as safiya though
So is it going by release order for SPs?
How old is this game, I remember first playing it in 2021
April 2019
had playtests in mid 2018, was public beta in jan 2019
talene was the first awakened but is actually the newest of the heroes that have been awakened
and then there's mae
I mean what if i have every animed from morrow expet awleen and awezizh 
He's got a point 
Fair enough
At the end of this do I get any prizes

Me neither
What if there was no question 
check #treasure-scramble pins
Raku + Swolis always leaves me power capped lol
Hello
Does anyone have a way to garenteed upgrade your people bc I can’t get any elites of my existing hero’s
May Pinoy paba dito?
@midnight raven english
There's no tagalog channel afaik
Go to #classic-questions for help 
Well WuKong and Thoran can be bought from the lab store I believe
@frank narwhal u from the philipines?
earth
Ako ☺️
America
Matanong lang kuys marami pabang naglalaro nito na Pinoy?
I’m definitely an ate 🥲 hehe. Uhm oo sa guild namin may iilan at meron din Ph guilds
Pinoy is pretty easy to pick out of a sentence
I can read and understand some tagalog but can only manage to speak a few clumsy words and phrases
I work with mostly filipino nurses you just pick stuff up
I think I've only seen casual ph guilds but could be wrong
Ayy sorry ate po pala😅. Btw salamat🙏

@marsh mauve dont be racist
How is that racist
I travel to Phillipines 3-4 times a years, they got the best Mango in the world
is the next hero a mauler
They're a gremlin
mauler means trash unit unless 303680
Also my mauler wl is now fucked please release new mauler thank you
banned
hey alaro and torne were both CR meta for a hot second
salami is uhhhh viable in AE
?

Honestly I build heros for the animated avatar
36f antandra?
Why not
Yeah


what to look ? , all i could see is a 5* 203 brutus
with a skin too ofc

a good meat shield

You could at least 9/9 Brutus
Granit is already higher than lvl 1.
Beyond 100, nah
Anyone have a clean png of Soul Hound?
idk if i navigated it correctly since i'm kinda new, but if u want this guy, u can give me like a few mins
online usage? or for print
Ngl Lilith boss designs are peak
.
Mask Curator is big JRPG boss energy
My fav
Gouldos is literally an eldritch god
Ngl the bosses look like they should be the main antagonist to the celestials
agreed
okay after removing the bg, i did my best to try and touch it up by refining the shadow and filtering it a bit
if u want it w/o shadows though lmk
Clean af
I wish
Woah!! That's awesome! Thank you so much lol you didn't have to go to so much trouble but I really appreciate it!
no worries! need to build up my portfolio anyway, LOL
I heard someone mention Maulers
does that call for a mauler doodle then
Man, 1 more after whoever-new-gremlin-is means i gotta stuff in pure mauler for main campaign

Like, gotta make some adjustments when i can even bother
Hopefully ch59 will get e60 enemies...
Can someone show me the pet wishlist please
Thank you
Do you guys have any pointers for someone who came back to the game after 1 year, and by the way, rerolling or restarting from scratch is of no interest to me, I con't care that I won't be top 10 in my server. Which hero should I invest in, I know none of the heroes that came since last year
Should probably still look at the beginner guide in #classic-questions and resource priorities in #faq-resources even if you aren’t restarting. That’ll give you a start point
@rancid garnet hi hi hru?
Ewfiya just selfish n hogs everything for herself before sharing her scraps w allies 
At least i got another dps ish 
She is an actual support
We have her and Salaki 
Alaro is... there and Numisu is mid
I wish I could E60 Numisu to get more haste
Couldnt really digest her skill text wall other than her being Alaro But Better
What does Alaro do?
Because I can't tell
Why is he a support
I see him used but I just use Satrana or Crassio instead
As in her masking up frontline as Support, yet continuously trying to do dips dmg over time 
I mean look at Asolise
She's a DPS healer
Nothing's stopping her to be a DPS buffer
I wish beef was still here
I mean active
Now its the same w asaf, but she wants to hog the buffs first to what little I'm even digesting for comprehension last i bothered to read her skillset
what are the odds of getting 3 lucretias and then 2 lucretias in the next 10 pull
Alaro ulti is just poison whenever enemy uses a active
Asafiya's skills do be as long as J.R.R Tolkien books
Then he occasionally heals allies arnd him + debuff enemies
The blowdart skill, iirc, just records some enemy stat thing, n then def shred based on 2nd record difference
But too situational apparently to keep it to the max or sth?
Would I be able to do 3 team Wilders, or would I need more investment in heroes
Its been months since i last read anything for skills now
Idk I've always subbed Alaro and I've never been in anu troubles
And I only see him used at 30960+

Ask hart for more detailed info
Will stream pulls for the new mauler when they come, same as during asaf
Fish blames me for stealing all his luck away
Fish blames everyone for everything
Also when E60 Antandra sheep I'm begging you please
When lilith decides to drop us a free truckload of 100k cores
Nah, that one is reserved for normie ewfiya
Need keepup the stupid powercreep of E60ing new maulers 
Crassio do be op though
But not enough coz by then, new Awa Mauler that eats up all 17.7k cores for e100
Literally the only reason why i can afford to kill current NC bosses lately
NC is so predatory
I get top 60% CR but gold IV in NC 
Thats why they give you free aezizh, coz he's used for hound 
Cant do much for NC myself
Also, i need to rmber to finish Dark Yard
who is that i completely forgot
I alrdy had ezizh 
Gouldos
Bonjour Le Fishe, why are you harassing sheep?
wasn't gouldos a squid
No it's not Gouldos
It's not the balancer either
It's the one in-between
Oh wait I just saw what imagine you mentioned
gouldos was squid
I didn't like seeing him slap Antandra with his tentacles
Previous TRift Boss before current bird
Wait this trift boss is a Skriath?
OH RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT
THE SUPER LAGGY BOSS
No wae
This exist yet ur telling me im supposed to be afraid of this guy?
Yes, him
animation starts playing > game lags for 5 seconds before starting
Continnum Stalker?
dat's a monke
not THE monke
just a monke
What was the name of the biblically accurate angel again
The one boss that came out a bit ago
Then we got beerus
pretty sure AE bosses go gouldos -> ainzbedo -> balancer -> spidermomma -> crab
Spidermomma?
I know
Tell me more
You forgot gigaezizh
oh yeah, they had that too
Marsha?
Pasting from Google
SQUISH BUGS!
iirc, her season was one of the easiest to get a frame
When do I become a whale
nah there was season 3...or 4 i don't remember
there were two broken ladders
or 5 or 6
??
one of those
Btw Fish, are you reserving the new mooler when they come out
uh, sure...?
Urgh, really broke on reds
i just merc whatever is available and then cry when i don't get 
don't really plan or ask for mercs these days
Still need abt 180+ more to +40 ewfiya n +30 new mooler
Tbis is my favorite boss design
desira was the sexiest thing lilith has drawn until mask curator
now mask curator #1
theowyn still my waifu tho
Mhm
and zolrath tail best tail
Waiting for Awa Tidus/keksos
Like, urgh, safiya of all things, n all the "power" tv soap drama
i liked that they kept safiya "evil" at least
Makes brutus "Blood Claw is the Mauler's best fighter" waek
or power hungry w/e
genuinely thought they would just go for antandra or satrana cause it would be "easy" like athalia felt like a throwaway woke
Rather than go "me touch orb, me queen now"
SCP 682 has broken containment
"and then she awakened" - basically athalia's backstory now
just randomly changed her mind and be like "humans good now"
Wokethalia be like "oh noes, maybe hoomans r ok"
Please Fish, we're already ignoring Baden and the necromancer spirit?soul? inhabiting his body 
i don't like that they took away the cuteness tho
also how do you feel about them forgetting tidus as wolf stand-in for little red riding hood 
using salami was wack lol
Anyone? Would I be good for a while at 3 teams, or need more investment
Meh, its lilith, forever questionable other than char designs
My grapevine be like, they all gave up so hard on Dislyte, despite all the mooler-equivalent bait
Rates n Ascension equiv worse than AFKA 
They'd such high hopes after jumping from AFKA
did they give up on dislyte tho
i keep getting dislyte ad
and they're all full blown animation too
Maybe lilith trying hard gather back the ppl
can't be cheap
not the random cheap ad company using random asset pack to make fake assets
We all just jumped ship to that gaem
but like full blown story animation
i'm not gonna play either lol
it just doesn't look fun and i already told myself i'm limiting to one gatcha in my lifetime
Meanwhile, me w 5 gacha (incl this), and still need juggle other games
Like yk, the upcoming BG3
i mean clearly i start wanting to spend and playing an unhealthy amount unable to quit
don't need it to become a pattern lol
once in a lifetime is enough
if game dies i'll just quit mobile game, ez
the funny thing is while dislyte does have like, cooler character design
Really, grapevine complained to me that AFKA rates are better 
Nearly back to 800 scamtimegaze
the UI color palette and font and icon placement etc are all just dreadful to look at
it's like it's trying to be spiderverse colors
Wondering if i shld just get my 1st copy of the other wokes i dont own yet
but ends up more like knockoff cheap paint
yez
if you have like 1k+ you can slowly work on whalinda or something lol
otherwise i wouldn't touch
800 is nothing if you -600
if you somehow get to 1k+ then could probably start pulling a bit and hope to get lucky, if unlucky just stop before the baseline hoard
Nah, will probably get consoomed when 3rd awa mooler is out
Anyway, need to finish up my dailies b4 sleeping
3.39am here
mooler fan
if it's like a year away then you could definitely get 1k before that if you keep playing and they keep giving 50 per woke
Kek, nah, they won't be so generous w 50 per woke constantly
Best be pessimistic to the xtreme
they might ¯_(ツ)_/¯
they know they're losing players to woke
notice how they don't do the same with bait really, because pets are usable at low level so people don't really quit over pets
it's still not enough woke cards to really change anything though
Yay, 60 more to go
660 is a weird goal
3 teams
Catching up to a friend
Also just got this
She's done!
And with that done, so is this
Should I go for Brutus or baden next
I personally think Baden but Brutus/Baden is hard to Choose
Could anyone help me or guide me in the game I am level 40 and relatively new
Hi, @thin pelican!
If you have questions in AFK Arena ask in #classic-questions. If you need lineup help in campaign or arena ask in #lineup-help
I have solise, thane, and talene, and now Belinda, idk which of those 2 to get
I'm leaning towards Brutus, due to tower and also a lot of levels I've seen him used
With a name like that you’d probably be best to just leave the server and im putting that nicely
Yes brutus is fantastic, Baden is also fantastic
I think its really just preference at that point honestly
building wokes for tower 
Also campaign

Just do Brutus
Its fine either way i think
Baden would improve your CR more though
@wise fiberhey sakana
no u
nice
now e80 her
Wtf even is this pull? 😂
A juicy quad
That's never happened to me before lol I was like "Wtf??" at two Astar and then bamn
Yeah great pull for sure
Yeah. Super stoked. 8/8 Astar. At 6/8 on Sonja, and 4/8 on Scarlet.
me cause why not
Yea why not
+30 diamon is a solid upgrade don't let them tell u otherwise

also rem hits like a truck for me rn
Why tf did I make an acc just for fun and got this-
lets play warframe
why not
Antandra op
Op whennnn
Op everytime
I’ll start with this
What's would you guys say is the best support??
I like her a lot
Ignore the armor match up, I just put whatever best on my heros
Decent but not the best
She good paired with awaken solice
But the best support stays rowan
Unless we talk about each faction
I just recently got him so I might give him a shot
If you don't have better supports why not
You need atleast some heal support in some events
She's very good, there's not really a best support it depends what you need
Lol what
He gets outclassed pretty quickly after leaving early game and is just glued to abel or scarlet or whatever, is mediocre for pvp
Ivan, palmer could think of better supports its just his si30 is good for early campaign pushing
I've heard a lot of ppl say Silas is pretty good as well
can you really say something is "mediocre for pvp" when they're in 4 team scramble
honestly usable in 3 team scramble too
But him being there or not usually doesn't make or break a team unless its abel bc abel is glued to like the same 4 or 5 supports
Silas is fine
Frankly think lyca is a more impactful support and shes not even a support
alna best support
I wonder what a good woke tank would look like
something like cruke but turned up to 11 I guess

Cruke already op if we had a better cruke I can't even imagine that
My headass has cruke at 304E41 
isn't woketus your woke tank
Fix hims
rowan is underestimated as a tank too
sometimes he just doesn't die
and i don't get it
ofc other times he just plops ded
He has that cheat death yeah
lyca is being dropped in scramble lol, not all the time but often enough
cycle dependent ofc
so basically they're on par

DA
thoran in stall persists somehow 
although a giga awakened tank would be directly challenging that 
woke mishka about to break the game
her SP skill will give her +1 bear every time she uses her ult
nev grinning
When will new serwer come up?
When old one is full
when old one full














