companions-questions

[upper crypt]

whats that

[full jay]

2nd campaign with death counter

[upper crypt]

ohhh thanms

[full jay]

bottom right

[upper crypt]

alrighttt

[terse estuary]

When does Haelus become good?

[gleaming bobcat]

at a1 i think

[terse estuary]

Mhm, I see. ‘Never’ would have also worked. XD

[gleaming bobcat]

its like talene, ur in for a ride if ur taking him to max

[nimble ore]

A3

[solemn thunder]

I have twins and mortas, what do i stargaze on now or do i just save them?

[spice inlet]

Is there a guide specifically for Guild Bosses ?

[gleaming bobcat]

talene or haelus or u save for an even more broken celestial

[full jay]

not for all

mainly dream

[gleaming bobcat]

there is also a guild boss guide that u can just use on everyone imo

[full jay]

🥀

crown you got pinged

[gleaming bobcat]

seirus best hero

[full jay]

goated

[gleaming bobcat]

dont post my answer tho

[full jay]

yea kinda

i roleplay the aqua guy

man that aqua guy tilted me so much with his seirus love

[gleaming bobcat]

idk that guy, seirus is terrible hes khasos tier

[cobalt bobcat]

Should I focus on lyca A, tasi mystic and A, or Mishka

[spiral shard]

Any active codes?

[hearty rain]

Is cha worth A5 if I’ve got a sjw A5

[thorn holly]

If u have the Ressources sure

[trail carbon]

hi guys! sorry i'm fairly new to the game and still kinda confused but heroes in some guides are not present in companions. How can I get them?

[grand spoke]

For Wilders, Lyca or Nevanthi ?
For Graveborns, Shemira or Silas ?

[shrewd marlin]

wait till your at 4 e+ copies

[grand spoke]

not have anyone yet, was wondering who to go first, Sung Jinwoo is main damage now

[shrewd marlin]

might wanna wait till u can do trishea then

cause trishea is one of the best heroes

[fluid holly]

Mishka or lyca to ascend to mythic ?

[marble stone]

Is the sjw event over

[shrewd marlin]

yes

[upper crypt]

What do you guys think will be the next new collab

[shrewd marlin]

i wonder if they'd do a demon slayer one

[upper crypt]

THTA WOULD BE SO COOL

And very successful imo

[maiden geyser]

aigt

just got talene from normal summons, dub or no?

[gleaming bobcat]

thats good celehypos are pretty rare from normal summons

[dull tree]

How many cards would you say it takes for a1?

[gleaming bobcat]

like 1k

[thorn holly]

Wtf

[fossil monolith]

Should I be doing these or not really?

[proud shard]

@fossil monolith not at all, wait for a dimensional

[fossil monolith]

Oki doki thank you!

My mishka is already ascended. I have 8 copies of lyca, 8 copies of tasi and 6 copies of trishea. Should I ascend lyca or wait for trishea

[full jay]

trishea is the one exception to everything atm upgrade her, work on her

[fossil monolith]

Oh so push her right now at 6 copies?

[full jay]

yea trishea is the hero that you can push early so that you get her to +20 asap

[fossil monolith]

On it! I didn't know that thank you!

[full jay]

+20 trishea clears almost every early obstacle, is the answer for early pvp, many bosses and so on

she prob will lose in your servers meta to jinwoo a bit, since jinwoo seems to be another broken dimensional with shalltear that upsets a lot

but aside from that trishea clears most content

[fossil monolith]

Yeah sadly my jinwoo is only L cause I focused wilders

[fossil monolith]

are there any wilder units that are also considered fodder? like seirus on tierlist is really bad. Ill be able to awaken 5 wilders easily soon, got mishka, ascended, tasi and lyca can ascend, nevathi soon and trishea soon

[full jay]

the wilder that I see having no use at all are seirus, nemora and respen.

Tho since they're still heroes you'd need to decide - they'll still provide you with +5 max level on ascended and who knows if someone might find use for them.

[fossil monolith]

i see, i see. And pippia?

[full jay]

pippa +20 is really useful

++ has usage on one dream realm stage

[fossil monolith]

ahhhhhh oki doki

[nocturne fox]

How do you get this guy? Or is it just based on ascending normal brutus?

Nvm i found it, need library

[molten carbon]

I want omniscient reader

Check seven knight's collab and see how dope it is

[nimble ore]

Yup library plus 5 ascended maulers

[nocturne fox]

What does this mean in Expedition?

[hushed veldt]

Does someone know how many points each city gives in expedition? Because i've seen some cities give more points, thanks.

[gleaming bobcat]

it literally says at the top "send command" u can pin a note on a city for ur members to see it

[nocturne fox]

Okay just a note on there, didnt know if it did something specific like an actual /command 😭😭

[gleaming bobcat]

just try it out u wont break the game by trying it but yeah its just a note

[nocturne fox]

I reckon /win would work

[nimble ore]

That would be nice try it maybe it'll work

[nimble ore]

Higher tier cities give more. Tbh I'm not sure the specific point values

[hushed veldt]

Yeah i know that, i was wondering about exact values to make a plan, thanks for trying to help tho

[nimble ore]

#golden-frontier-chat someone there may know. If nothing else Montes probably has an idea.

[dawn oyster]

whats the co-op exactly in companions?

[hushed veldt]

Okay, thanks!

[nimble ore]

You can duo with another person for certain gamemodes such as campaign and DR. When you duo you can borrow some of their heroes and use a less strong version of them.

[dawn oyster]

i understand thank you

[nimble ore]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1304579856918642748

Here is more info about differences if you would like to look it over

[shrewd marlin]

whats the priority for t1 gear??

i already t2'd trishea's weapon im not sure what to do next

[nimble ore]

Like who? Normally you will want to prio carries for the t1s. And normally dims take alot of the stones since many of them are quite good/carries

[shrewd marlin]

so should i t1 sjw's weapon?

[nimble ore]

Shall, Jinwoo, Marci, aSol, Mira

[shrewd marlin]

is it simialr to classics where you upgrade the boots?

[nimble ore]

Jinwoo likes weapon and boots first yes

Boots for the dodge

[shrewd marlin]

does trish need her boots t1'd or should i just t1 sjw's weapon

[nimble ore]

In general you can kinda look at the character's kit and the stat % increase in the preview and then decide what you want to do

[nimble ore]

Who do you have the ability to take up?

Trish helmet isnt bad to take up

[shrewd marlin]

oh i forgot about that part

[nimble ore]

Weapon -> helmet -> boots -> chest for Trish

[nimble ore]

Yeah haha

[shrewd marlin]

yeah i dont think i can do trish 😭

sjw it is then

[nimble ore]

Do jinwoo weapon

[nimble ore]

Yeah mythic gear drops so damn slow

[shrewd marlin]

and it never gives me one with the attributes

just the regular mythic weapon

[nimble ore]

Yeah it's annoying when that happens. The gear is literally useless then...

But you'll slowly get more and more

[shrewd marlin]

yeah ive been pretty unlucky with equipment

[nimble ore]

I need way more still too....

[nimble ore]

Same here

My aSol has been rocking a regular mythic weapon for like 2 months now

[shrewd marlin]

my asol is all regular mythic

i wish i spent my guild coins on the t1 stones instead 😭

[nimble ore]

Haha but then you wouldn't be able to use them

[shrewd marlin]

i could only use them on sjw 😂

[nimble ore]

At least he would be strong i guess

[shrewd marlin]

hopefully next dims will be good

[nimble ore]

Yeah I saved 4 dimensional mythic gear boxes instead of giving it to Cha just in case. Also why I saved my spirits after I got her to M.

I am kinda banking on a good collab next time

[solemn thunder]

is salaki a fine first mauler to ascend, ive got mishka and nevanthi ascended.

[shrewd marlin]

salaki is pretty good yeah

[nimble ore]

Salaki is my favorite

[void hatch]

I got recently the colab characters but when can i get new things for up them cause now the thing for up them are gonne and my cha hae is just legendary+ and my sung is 1 stars

Ps i'm new player so i'm very bad😅

[vital turtle]

what does it sl means?

[upper veldt]

Si! Signature Item

[vital turtle]

ahh okay i get it now

[upper veldt]

Would you guys say Lucretia isn't worth using?

I got weirdly lucky and drew two copies of her in one day, got all excited. But I've heard she's not very good in Companions.

[scarlet venture]

What should I use my diamonds on? Ive been spending them all on sjw before and not sure what to do now…

[vital turtle]

is it worth to just migrate and start over on new server than playing on old one?

[scarlet venture]

If you took an extended break its almost always worth to start over on new server unless you whaled big time. You probably cant be competitive on your old server, making you miss out on a lot of event rewards (as far as I understand atleast)

[vital turtle]

i mean i'm on s218 everyone is ahead of me in terms of competitivnes and all newest is 224 at this moment i just think i should start over on newest but im f2p player

and idk

[late phoenix]

You’ll always be behind if you’re f2p, doesn’t matter the server

[shrewd marlin]

Just keep using them on tavern since ur still early game

I stopped once I got aSolise

[scarlet venture]

thanks 😄

[chilly falcon]

Is there a reason to push forked if im capped on xp?

[gleaming bobcat]

unlimited and extremely useless amounts of dust except for emblems (and to appear on ur servers leaderboard as well as for eternal glory) no. not really

[short ginkgo]

Dust 🤣

[fleet drum]

[fleet drum]

She's extremely niche but amazing in campaign and needs heavy investment

So nah

[upper veldt]

Yeeeee this was my worry. Like, if she takes all that investment to make her worth using, may as well just develop more effective celest/hypogeans

[upper crypt]

What's the best way to get stargazer scrolls, and im taking that I should stargazer trishea

[gleaming bobcat]

hell nah dont stargaze for 4F heroes, best way to get sg cards is buying them from the perk store when u unlock it by buying the monthly vip card, best value bundles for sg cards, otherwise maybe arena store but there u should focus on emblems especially as a f2p

so in short: money there is no good way of obtaining sg cards except for chapter finishes, arena store and random cards from events

[upper crypt]

Thay sucks but thank you

I need 1 more copy of trishea sooo bad 💔

[gleaming bobcat]

it will come eventually dw, only gaze for celehypos nothing else

[upper crypt]

I'm currently stuck in campaign and everything, do I make my mishka to Legendary? Considering that it will spread my fodder

[gleaming bobcat]

u can put fodder into the slots, level them and then swap them out for other heroes

could do that if ur close to ascending her

[upper crypt]

Sorry but I don't really get it

[gleaming bobcat]

u can just ascend fodder heroes and use their levels for all ur other heroes, like level ur l+ rare tier heroes then ur other heroes automatically level with them

[upper crypt]

but isnt it highly discouraged to ascend your fodders

[gleaming bobcat]

what? no its discouraged to ascend ur ascended tier heroes to legendary if u cant get them to ascended, u need to ascend normal fodder heroes to ascend ur other heroes past l+, u need 2 l+ fodder and 2 e+ fodder to get a hero from e+ to m+

maybe dont ascend all ur fodders past e+ yeah but by the time u can ascned one hero ur gonna have enough of fodder anyways ur just making sure u can keep leveling until ur can ascend a better hero

[upper crypt]

alright thanksss

and dyk what happened here 😭

[upper crypt]

youa re such a life saaver

[gleaming bobcat]

u need to restart, u gotta move the wagon first and let the boulders double up so u can shoot it from the left

which si30? marci, lyca or crassio? no i dont have albedo

[full jay]

prob marci, crassio is kinda unnecessary if you have sjw and can just put sjw in the mauler comp for most stuff with you current heroes

lyca would be the choice if you need to boost dream realm and guild hunt damages a bit but I'd say since she's generally a minor supportive buff - its fine at that

[gleaming bobcat]

okay

[thorn holly]

My friend

When asking questions like that u sort your Heroes by si

[thorn holly]

What Account is that

Do rowan Trust

[gleaming bobcat]

i had 3 in mind already just couldnt decide

[gleaming bobcat]

my f2p (almost, i accidentally bought a bundle for 5 bucks one time cos i thought it was my main )

[tepid holly]

Is there a chart for the rewards for faction tower to show when you get red si mats

[gleaming bobcat]

after like floor 180 i think and then every 20/25 floors smth like that

i lied first one is at 245 red then 250g (gold), 265r (red), 270g, 285r, 290g, 305r, 310g, 325r, 330g, 345r, 350g, 375r, 380g, 395r

red: 245, 265, 285, 305, 325, 345, 375, 395
gold: 250, 270, 290, 310, 330, 350, 380

[wintry osprey]

Anyone able to tell me how to send guild invitations to chat like this?

[gleaming bobcat]

open guild hall, bottom left manage > invite to guild

[wintry osprey]

Thanks! I didn't even notice the server button up there

[tepid holly]

So every 20-30 floors

[gleaming bobcat]

yep

[tepid holly]

Got it was in the 400’s in all and was just curious on it all

[gleaming bobcat]

i couldnt look it up further cos lb today is my highest

[tepid holly]

Mauler my highest today at 415 I think

[gleaming bobcat]

mine is at 381 lol my crass, kren and skreg are too bad, my highest is wilders with 421

[dusty yew]

Who should i ascend Laios or Cha Hae In ?

[gleaming bobcat]

depends on how many spirits u have

[dusty yew]

I got 15 and 5 star both their partners

[soft pelican]

Hey guys so my comp is;

Mishka + Talene
Trishea + Nevanthi + Lyca

I’m working on getting the wilders ascended and then with tasi ascended also, so i can have solise… but once i get solise where should she go? who to replace 🫠

[gleaming bobcat]

cha needs a5 u could a1 laios if u want

[dusty yew]

Ty ty

[gleaming bobcat]

talene and u make a full wilder one

[dusty yew]

Based on my lineup rn laios would be the best right ?

[gleaming bobcat]

yeah both ainz and cha need a5 to work well, laios with si20 is good at a1

[tepid holly]

My kren is only mythic rest are A5 and si10 plus

[gleaming bobcat]

im jealous

[tepid holly]

lol my wilders are 416

[tepid holly]

lol I’m on an older server though but I have 80% of characters A5

[gleaming bobcat]

whale we have same level tho 380

[soft pelican]

who on earth goes on the frontline then? talene acts as a tank rn also as a healer

[gleaming bobcat]

asolise, nevanthi, tasi can all frontline totally fine, asolise needs si30 for that to work tho

[soft pelican]

what would nevanthi need to go frontline?

[gleaming bobcat]

si10 at least u can put her frontline at si0 as well u need deer then tho u can also just use mishka instead of tasi for frontline

[soft pelican]

ye i mean i dont use tasi and dont plan on it, only ever if i need like cc, but so far ive been good without her, always put mishka on frontline

so my new frontline will be mishka + nevanthi

[gleaming bobcat]

u should have saved enough emblems to instantly si30 asolise normally, also tasi is better than mishka

[soft pelican]

should i be saving my emblems for solise? i thought i should put them in my trishea once she’s ascended

[gleaming bobcat]

i mean trish first yeah but then asolise immediatly after

[soft pelican]

i have hardly any emblems 🫠

[gleaming bobcat]

thats why ur supposed to always buy them in arena store and normal store

[soft pelican]

i try, but i don’t make enough arena coins to buy a lot

[gleaming bobcat]

red emblems then purple emblems if ur in the early stage later u prioritize gold over purple, if u low on diamonds only get red emblems from the normal store

[shrewd marlin]

when do you get purple emblems?

oh wait is that just silver emblems

[gleaming bobcat]

yes it is

[tepid holly]

What I haven’t spent in 4 months now thank you

[nimble ore]

There's always time to make that 0

[tepid holly]

You wish

[grand spoke]

for Diamonds, u just do Normal summons until u get good team?

[gleaming bobcat]

ur still a whale u dont just „unbecome“ a whale haha

[lethal iron]

New player here. I read the guide but im still a bit confused. I should only level up blue heroes for now?

[shrewd marlin]

upgrade rowan and them first

once you get the fodder heroes to leg+ you can reset the other ones and level those up

[lethal iron]

Thanks

[upper crypt]

Who do I acesnd, or should I just not do anything for now

I want to ascend trishea but at the same time I also want to ascend lyca to mythic+

[tepid holly]

My so called whale account for you

[full jay]

you're def above average in SI, have a 2nd cele/hypo build, and plenty of stars - but glad you found out what you wanted on your terms :>

[tepid holly]

Am I really didn’t think I was really that far ahead in si

[full jay]

12 heroes +30
32 heroes above +20
38 heroes above +10

my f2p in 136 days has
3 heroes +30 (almost 4)
12 heroes above +20
18 heroes above +10

[molten carbon]

can someone tell me who is safe to build in every faction even tho i dont have enough copies of that hero to get to ascended right away ?

[full jay]

even if you double that based on your game time thats 8 more +20s, 4 more +30s etc.

[tepid holly]

In 5 days my sjw is gonna be 30 also

[full jay]

and that is kinda a minmaxed acc based on emblem efficiency, dim pulls and op heroes

+20s do take their time ^^

so its nice to have what ya have

[tepid holly]

Trish Mira crassio gywneth

Yeah but some of my si30’s are bad choices

[full jay]

only trishea I'd say - you'll be angry at yourself if you're stuck on some heroes at mythic and keep pulling other copies :/

you can do it at your own risk of bricking your future self

[full jay]

every +30 you have is still used

rowan is argueably maybe "the worst" but still good

[molten carbon]

so its fine if i upgraded the good ones to ascended once i get x4 E+, even tho they arent a priority ?

[full jay]

the +20s i'd rather agree on and say yea personally i wouldnt find much use with like morrow or respen

[tepid holly]

Yeah

[full jay]

i mean you choose one hero to ascend from every faction at first

you do kinda want 2 tanks and 2 dps

so whether you ascend trishea/mishka (wilder), sonja/gwyneth (lb), crassio/skregg (mauler), thoran/mira (graveborn)

kinda depends on your luck

[tepid holly]

I usually do at the beginning one copy of Brutus mishka salaki Trish and Nev or lyca

[full jay]

i believe thoran not being on wishlist prio is btw a fluke and oversight / overprio on some less important heroes on our side

[tepid holly]

Idk I’ve never really used thoran

[full jay]

have to get ready now gl gl

[tepid holly]

Though I can pull him

[tepid holly]

Bye bye good luck and be safe ❤️

[full jay]

grezhul, hodgkin etc. all do nothing on high diff - you kinda need meatballs like hendrik, thoran at some point - tyty

[molten carbon]

he is in my wishlist, i played afk journey and ik how op he is

[tepid holly]

He’s kinda less good here probably but still good later on when it’s more of a who can out put the most damage you or the enemy

[molten carbon]

but he is still kinda like brutus, that meatshield who can hold the enemy for a few secs xD

even at E

[tepid holly]

Yeah

[molten carbon]

thats what he is good at

[high kestrel]

SJW good Sl +30? Or enough 20?

[polar linden]

is it worth leveling up sung jinwoo's weapon?

[gleaming bobcat]

definitely a whale u got 2 maxed celehypos and 12 si30 nice box

[tepid holly]

13 now

[gleaming bobcat]

bruh no need to flex gimme that

i need it more than u trust

[tepid holly]

When I quit all yours

[gleaming bobcat]

deal

[tepid holly]

lol

[gleaming bobcat]

it will be in good hands trust u could also have it back any time

[tepid holly]

It’ll be between you or one of the people on a different server that I know well

[vast urchin]

Should i ascend my gorvo

[thorn holly]

I Need your help

How do i determine who to give T1 weapons

[gleaming bobcat]

if they are useful characters in any sort or way, or just ask me or iperx

[thorn holly]

Well Tell me

[gleaming bobcat]

gwyneth 10, mira 20, sjw 30 should be ur next ones (after u si30 asolise)

[thorn holly]

I have another T1 who do You wanna see

[full jay]

just t1 your strongest hero according to item prio

my sjw on the main also looks still like that, because i dont have the resources to upgrade everything at once

my marci f.e. only like this aswell, trishea...

[thorn holly]

Whats item prio

[gleaming bobcat]

same lol they got weapons and thats it

[thorn holly]

Weopons Shorts?

Shoes*

[gleaming bobcat]

yes

weapons>shoes and then either helmet or chest probably helmet most of the time cos more dmg

chest for tanks for example

[thorn holly]

Okay

[gleaming bobcat]

shoes are important cos they give dodge

[thorn holly]

First everyones weapon and then shoes or First weopon shoes then Next important Hero and do on

[full jay]

#1 weapons on mage > weapons on agility > weapons on strength
#2 boots on mage / boots on agility
#3 helmet on mage > helmet on agility > helmet on strength
#4 all armors / boots on strength

[gleaming bobcat]

thats why they are 2nd prio after weapon for albedo for example u could only do shoes and not weapon just for better survivability

[full jay]

thats my prio

[thorn holly]

Okay good to know

[gleaming bobcat]

depends on strength hero like albedo but thats very specific

[thorn holly]

Whos got longevety

Longevity How do your Write that

[full jay]

my strength heroes are suffering from the success of my other heroes

[thorn holly]

Anyway who is a Safe bet for the Future is what im trying to ask

[gleaming bobcat]

yeah same lmfao i rly want to do albedos gear cos i love her as a character obviously but other things just got higher prio now i have a whole ass mira gear to do

[full jay]

mostly supports stay unaffected from meta changes

[gleaming bobcat]

everything with percentage bonus buffs, immunity and cheat deaths is always gonna be good imo

[thorn holly]

Well ive decided

I dont wanna bother Tell me who to Build Crown

[full jay]

everything else is well yea can be powercrept - so I'd just go after your heroes strength

[thorn holly]

Lyca Boots Maybe?

[gleaming bobcat]

meh

she isnt rly a cary most of the time and boots dont do a lot for her like sjw where he needs it, i mean its not bad but also not that good imo

like abrutus boots would be better same for albedo they just get more out of it yk what i mean?

[thorn holly]

Did Marci now

I dont know why i bother that much

[gleaming bobcat]

yeah thats good

[thorn holly]

Its not that Deep haha

[gleaming bobcat]

u can just complete her set if u want same for sjw

[gleaming bobcat]

its good on dims to have their full set after u have every important weapon

[full jay]

item are really not deep i just go for whatever increases my atk values atm

and sometimes on important heroes dodge

or like core heroes like shalltear get everything

I'd wish I could upgrade everything on jinwoo and marci - but too much else stuff to build atm

[thorn holly]

Okay how much is is 20 Dodge how strong is that

[full jay]

they come soon tho

well 70 dodge is like the best dodge SI

[gleaming bobcat]

every point of dodge is good

[full jay]

any dodge is strong for campaign

for pvp its unconsitent since you dont perma retry fights

[thorn holly]

Yes but Like how much is 1 Point exactly

[full jay]

depends

there is a counter stat called accuracy

[thorn holly]

Hahaha

[full jay]

so its a rock paper scissor thingy

but generally mages ignore dodge

[gleaming bobcat]

yeah the more dodge they have compared to the accuracy the higher the chance to dodge

[full jay]

but agility heroes and strength heroes get tripped on dodge easily

[gleaming bobcat]

dodge is good against physical dmg dealers

u can read a detailed description of every stat if u click the exclamation mark on a hero and then press on the name of a stat, it will open a small window explaining what it does and how it works

[fleet drum]

[gleaming bobcat]

u said she is si30 on the ss she isnt so i assumed she was close to done

[polar linden]

Turns out if you change guilds mid vault of time event your blessed relics get reset but your title doesn’t 😑💀 whys it reset both thats so ass

And the stamina is reset to 0 and doesn’t regain with no heroes in the slots, despite heroes with stamina being in there before

[gaunt oasis]

Uh which one

[shrewd marlin]

wilders

[gaunt oasis]

Ty

[nimble ore]

Wilders until aSol then Mauler till aBrutus

[solemn thunder]

Should I be Upgrading anyones SI or just wait becuase im ascending trishea next?

[nimble ore]

Wait for Trish

[solemn thunder]

Trish to 30?

[nimble ore]

Trish will go there yes. Definitely si20, you can then do aSol and then finish Trish si30

[solemn thunder]

ty

Also, how long should i be using gems on normal pulls and should i be using them on anything else

Im at 23-34, mainly due to my duo tho

[charred hemlock]

Hi! I was trying to team up with somebody whose level is several chapters ahead of me to do campaign, and I get this error message. It doesn’t make sense to me. It talks about the opposite of what I’m trying to do. Has anyone come across this?

[gleaming bobcat]

no just a stupid decision by lilith to limit boosting people in a game called companions, i think this error message only has this one side to it no matter what end of the duo u were

[charred hemlock]

Thank you so much. Got it. I went up to 23-36 thanks to my Teammate but he left to help somebody else and now I’m stuck. 😔

[gleaming bobcat]

yep the system sucks, lots of people already asked to revert it

[charred hemlock]

Do you think there is a chance that Lilith would listen and change this?

[gleaming bobcat]

so we have been asking for faction reroll scrolls for 8 months or so atp idk anything

[charred hemlock]

What’s that?

[gleaming bobcat]

being able reroll the faction on mythic gear cos tf do i need multiple celestial warrior boots for, for example

[charred hemlock]

Ah, got it. I think Classic has it.

[gleaming bobcat]

yeah its a great item and we want it too but nothing for 8 months so keep ur expectations low lol

[charred hemlock]

I have another question. Do beasts make a lot of difference in battles? Is it worth investing in the purple celestial dragon?

[gleaming bobcat]

yeah beasts give a ton of stats and some good abilities like owl haste, deer cc immunity or bonus damage, celestwing is op af but its gonna take a whiiiiile as a f2p to level it just so yk

dont buy normal beast scrolls tho thats a waste

[charred hemlock]

Got it. Thank you! So far I only bought one bundle with a copy of Talene. She is great. 👍🏻 When it comes to healing, who is better, Talene or Flora?

[gleaming bobcat]

flora doesn’t heal lol not really at least, talene is a lot better

[charred hemlock]

I just really like how Flora looks so cheerful. I liked her since I got her on Classic. Then I’ll focus on Talene. 🙏🏻😇

[charred hemlock]

Thank you so much again, sensei. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[gleaming bobcat]

ayy np thats what the community is there for

[upper crypt]

Did I mess up? Because I needed more levels, I was stuck

Now i have 0 fodder

[full jay]

i mean usally you can ascend one hero and swap it in the crystal to give the levels to another hero and relevel

[fleet drum]

Why's that don't you love no faction mythic gear

The phone photo when screenshotting exists 😭😭

[upper crypt]

Wait 1 ascended hero?

[full jay]

no

like you can have one hero at legendary+

level the hero to level 160 and swap it around in the resonating crystal

[upper crypt]

Ohh

I should've done thwt

[vast urchin]

Should i ascend gorvo to M+ and A by feeding tasi to him?

[solemn thunder]

how long should i be using gems on normal pulls and should i be using them on anything else

[nimble ore]

I say no

Tasi is more valuable as a hero anyways. Just wait for fodder

[nimble ore]

Normal pulls until aSol and aBrutus imo. You'll want to buy all the SI emblems in the store as well.

[solemn thunder]

Like purple, yellow, and red chest?

[nimble ore]

Yup those ones. You'll want to use most of your arena coins on them as well in the arena shop

Are you f2p?

[solemn thunder]

Yes

[nimble ore]

Yup you need to be buying emblems every week

[solemn thunder]

Ty

[nimble ore]

@full jay do you agree with the new early game shop guide SaiLus and Light made? I don't think I do.

Do you have an opinion on which emblems new f2ps should be buying each week? I feel as though early game they may not need to buy as much but idk

[nimble ore]

I personally max buy all 3 each week but early game you can probably get away with just purple and reds for a bit

Or just reds

[full jay]

yea, it just says the order in which to buy stuff - aslong as we have ongoing expedition and the arena rewards it doesn't seem too problematic to buy.

scrolls just means the 10 weekly scrolls in store not summons so

[trim night]

What should I get from this shop first? Also should I still spend dias on normal summons or save?

[full jay]

imo it doesnt change much whether you buy 10 summons first or all emblems first - aslong as you buy them both you do fine

only opinion i currently hold - aslong as expedition is the way it is - its maybe not worth to buy the 3 leaf

but then again it might hinder progression

[nimble ore]

@full jay I am okay with the wish leaves I think.... SG I think are a mistake and I dont think you should ever ever buy destiny scrolls.

[full jay]

ah the destiny scrolls i wouldnt do

and for the arena part it depends - as soon as you finished all heroes that you deem useful or even all heroes that you can +10 at all obviously sg takes prio

i think sailus just reached point of critical mass for SI

my main is soon there aswell

[nimble ore]

Yeah but this is an early game shop guide

[nimble ore]

Wish leaves may need to wait until mid game to have prio over emblems. I get how OP celest is but early on I'm not sure the 3 leaves are worth

[full jay]

maybe necessary evil to unlock e+ twins?

not sure whats the reasoning behind the sgs is then for early game

[full jay]

i mean you can only buy 3 and at the beginning you have endless gain from stages so its fine to not skip

[nimble ore]

Early game I would recommend scrolls over t1 stone too until you have aSol

Well maybe get 1 for Trish

[full jay]

its more like you're slowed down by 3 summons a weekl behind others I'd say

++ we do not know what next pet might and if its stronger and so on

[nimble ore]

I would just put leaves after golds and purples

But keep it

[full jay]

yea for sure so thats def argueable

[nimble ore]

Then starting mid game put it back maybe

But I couldn't really define when mid game starts

[full jay]

i mean whats mid game?´xp wall

whats early game

same thought

[nimble ore]

Probably lv 300ish?

Or 280 idk

[full jay]

xp wall starts 280ish

[nimble ore]

Yeah 280 isnt anything compared to 320+ but it does slow there

[full jay]

lvl 360 / ch40+ starts like 4 months ish as f2p

[nimble ore]

320-360 hell

[spring hamlet]

Whats the difference between companions and classic?

[full jay]

play 'em both find it out - one might be too boring or one might overwhelm you

6 years of content aging i'd say

[nimble ore]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1304579856918642748

[nimble ore]

It could be for twins

But who knows without additional text

[spring hamlet]

How does that work? Can i play on both with just one account or not?

[full jay]

you can switch between them look at the linked message from tynacity

[nimble ore]

I used my first pull for them so I would think that would be the better recommendation... guaranteed in first 10

[spring hamlet]

I wont lose progress?

[nimble ore]

Nope you keep

[full jay]

why'd you?

[nimble ore]

Already had Talene and Mortas

New Player CeleHypo Guide (f2p)

Unlock Talene from finishing stage 10-10 and claim her from Get All Heroes.

Use Arena coins to claim the 15 Mortas shards from Arena Shop until you reach 60 shards (4 times) and unlock Mortas in your Item Bag.

Select Elijah and Lailah as the hero in the Stargazing Room and use your first 10 SG cards to unlock them.

Replace Elijah and Lailah with Talene in the Stargazing Room. Stargaze her until A5 or save your SG cards.

Ask an experienced player to review your hero box and recommend your next celehypo.

---

Other Useful CeleHypos for early game / f2p

One copy of Audrae is useful for early campaign.

Mehira can find some general use at one copy.

Haelus seems to be potentially useful at one copy for bossing.

Selene may be useful for early campaign, is quite useful built out later on.

Frampton has great campaign usage at one copy in early game, but needs investment for pvp.

That is my thought on it @full jay

[full jay]

Yea is good and can be pinned by community support

[nimble ore]

Should I @ them

[full jay]

Sure atleast one

[nimble ore]

As long as we have agreement on it

[nimble ore]

@radiant ocean @umbral delta @candid warren Can one of yall pin this please? ^^
Thank you 😊

[upper crypt]

wishlist prioritied?

[tepid holly]

Thank you for the guild 🫶

Will definitely be using it

[tepid holly]

Especially since I am noob

[nimble ore]

We know

[tepid holly]

I am tbh

[nimble ore]

Nah nah nah

[tepid holly]

You should see my 171 account

[nimble ore]

And what of the whale 🐋 account good sir?

[tepid holly]

Money is what that is

You don’t have to be good at the game to spend money

[nimble ore]

Money buys you experience and progress

[tepid holly]

I mean look at the S75 Korean whale

[nimble ore]

Good way for us to test things

We learn from you so

All the whales that buy the stuff to max the hero and then iperx just asks them to run tests for him

[tepid holly]

From me def not me

[nimble ore]

It's like a symbiosis I guess

[fleet drum]

[nimble ore]

Well if you build any random hypos let us know, and you can help with some tests

[tepid holly]

[nimble ore]

[tepid holly]

You funny I’m F2P now

I’ll let you know by next year if I build one if I’m still here

[nimble ore]

True true... but 1400 SG are calling your name 📞 📲 pick up phone

[fleet drum]

[fleet drum]

Followed up by a call from your bank

[tepid holly]

😭

[nimble ore]

When Liberta comes

$$$

[fleet drum]

Never 😍

[nimble ore]

Damn I see the deletion

[fleet drum]

Dims are already breaking the game enough 😔 we don't need that thing

[tepid holly]

All pictures wouldn’t load probably gonna do it again idk

[nimble ore]

Haha

[tepid holly]

Both my poverty accounts

[fleet drum]

[nimble ore]

Eh but right now they are super time locked

[tepid holly]

Only good dim is sjw atm in my opinion

[tepid holly]

Poverty

[fleet drum]

Woah drag shalltear and marcille

[fleet drum]

Yeah that sucks not being able to build albedo is fun

[tepid holly]

ATM sjw is best dim in my opinion

Mauler sjw team beats dims and wilders

[fleet drum]

I was one copy away from maxing him 🙁

[nimble ore]

Literally it's fine. They aren't top 5 but they are up there

[tepid holly]

Stargaze it

[nimble ore]

13 SI 30

[fleet drum]

Get that juicy 2% drop rate

[tepid holly]

I count 13 or am I stupid

[fleet drum]

Yeah i had the pleasure of getting kinda destroyed by that kinda team last week in PvP 😭

Still made top 30 so i'll take that

[tepid holly]

Ooooh what server are you

[nimble ore]

You right

[latent pagoda]

Do I keep them epic+? And who should I level up

[fleet drum]

50 something i think

[nimble ore]

Yeah it's nice

[tepid holly]

Keep E+

[nimble ore]

Keep E+ until you have 4 E+ copies of them

[latent pagoda]

Alrighty

[fleet drum]

Eeee

[tepid holly]

Very nice helps me fight the whales

[nimble ore]

Then take them all the way up

[nimble ore]

Oh yeah

[fleet drum]

So apart from Abrutus and sjw who's on that kinda team asking for a friend

[tepid holly]

Oh really your the region right under me

[tepid holly]

I’m not even like top 15 anymore in my region after solo leveling collab

[nimble ore]

Crassio Skreg Salaki/Kren

Very rarely Numisu

[fleet drum]

Ah my A1 crassio and m salaki/kren gonna flop hard 🥳

[tepid holly]

I slap my A5 si30 mehira instead of salaki half the time and it works

[tepid holly]

Rip

[nimble ore]

Who have you built?

[tepid holly]

That team is my saving grace on 171

[fleet drum]

Kreg the bird and some ughh dookie maulers

Skreg

[nimble ore]

Rip

[tepid holly]

That’s updated and he’s from server 50 something so that wasn’t out when me and him started sadly

[fleet drum]

Wym antandra isn't top tier??

[tepid holly]

She kinda bad

[fleet drum]

Lol i know, sarcasm

[nimble ore]

Ehh if Skreg is a5 you are good just use with Crassio and Salaki (pve) / Kren (pvp)

[tepid holly]

She’s good for vault of time the game mode that doesn’t exist anymore it feels like

[fleet drum]

Let me screenshot that and print it 12 times so i don't forget

[nimble ore]

Yeah but I would imagine that yall have at least 5 of each a5 or close or a5. So I was showing this for reference if needed.

[tepid holly]

Uhhh tbh I don’t really know what a F2P account around that point looks like

All I know is that there is a F2P past my whale account and have accepted defeat so it is what it is

[fleet drum]

You get somewhat humbled i guess 🥳

Ah i missread nvm

[tepid holly]

lol yeah I just gave up

[fleet drum]

Ah maybe i didn't

Pvp is so annoying and yet crucial it's aAaaaA

[tepid holly]

Whatever he’s doing in campaign and tower and forked fate he’s got it

But arena I’m Ight I guess

[fleet drum]

I'd consider pvp more important and worth

[tepid holly]

Arena is top priority imo

[fleet drum]

Lol i have a smurf acc and mfs be flexing over me for having completed the tutorial like.. 😭

In campaign

[tepid holly]

I use to be guaranteed like top 5 before solo leveling collab and now I can range anywhere from like 1-30

[fleet drum]

Yeah that's what i mean when i say dims are breaking the game 🥳

[tepid holly]

I mean as for sjw yeah but Shalltear was really only good until like Trish came out

Then she kinda got bad

[fleet drum]

I'm thinking in terms of powercreep and 150 cheat deaths cleansing crap and other stuff 😭

Ah i forgot being untargetable too

Or invincible

[tepid holly]

Yeah Marci is a good counter to him though cause she can stun and then nuke him

Really only character I lose too with sjw

[fleet drum]

Wait she has a stun? Or was i too lazy to read properly

[tepid holly]

She has a stun

[fleet drum]

The beeg fish part? 🤔

[tepid holly]

Idk all I know is that she can stun my sjw and nuke him

[fleet drum]

Ohh the textbook magic thing

[tepid holly]

I guess

[fleet drum]

📖 🪄

I'm thinking about pushing her to si30 but sjwjwjwjwj looks more promising idk

[tepid holly]

Uhhh sjw then Marci

[nimble ore]

Yeah probably that

[fleet drum]

Yeee

But he doesn't even have 5 stars so sadge

But his si30 sounds more interesting

[nimble ore]

Eh Jinwoo is the carry it will be okay

Oh you mean jinwoo

Yeah you kinda need that a5

[tepid holly]

Stargaze it bro trust

[fleet drum]

😔😔😔

[tepid holly]

I stargazed one and I got 2

Though I’ve been really lucky stargazing recently

[fleet drum]

Same i pushed talene to a1

[tepid holly]

Back to back double audrea for me

[fleet drum]

Ah also i prefer gender neutral or fem nouns just to make it clear 🙏🏼

[tepid holly]

My fault twin

[fleet drum]

All good

[nimble ore]

Wow congrats

[tepid holly]

All my luck for the next 8 years

[fleet drum]

no audrae emote so i'll send this instead

[nimble ore]

True.. rip then

[gleaming bobcat]

what da helly gg

[fleet drum]

[jagged dragon]

Whats a good comp around aTalene?

[polar linden]

Is there a way to just get T1 chests?

[shrewd marlin]

yeah in the guild shop u can buy the t1 stones

i would save that chest till u can buy the t1 stones

[polar linden]

Do you know what lvl the guild has to be to unlock the t1 ones?

[shrewd marlin]

level 9

costs 88k guild coins so you better start saving now 😊

[polar linden]

Damnnn alright ty

[tepid holly]

Yeah I haven’t pulled anything since

[proud isle]

Where to find codes?

[fleet drum]

[chilly falcon]

Who should get what dimm gear first? Got 8 chests

[gentle bolt]

Does anyone know where to find a detailed guide to the Golden Frontier mode?
So that there is information on what level of combat power is needed to capture a city (before and after the flood) relative to its defense. How to send troops to attack a city, is it possible to send AFK people to attack who do not log into the game, but their troops are in the garrison of the nearest city? And other questions.

[full jay]

Do you know where detailed guides are coming from?

--> no, there is no advanced/detailted Golden Frontier guide - Montes is probably the most experienced player - but we only have so few guide makers in our community and most of them do not seem to enjoy Frontier enough to have made an guide and share it.

[gentle bolt]

I don't like this mode anymore either, even though it's just started here. It's incredibly dependent on randomness, and it also forces you to donate if you want to play well and not be a punching bag. I'm just curious about the rules it basically operates by. Anyway, thanks for the answer.

[nimble ore]

Normally just Google: AFK Arena Companions codes

[thorn holly]

Yo guys

Whats the Investment needed on laios to make Marci shine

[tepid holly]

Sjw or marci

[tepid holly]

A1 si20

[thorn holly]

@gleaming bobcat fact Check

[coarse helm]

will joker be added?

[gleaming bobcat]

what meso said is right min investment is a1 si20

[upper crypt]

i got 8 copies of rowan, do i upgrade him or do i save

also my lyca is at mythic. My trishea is e+ so i dont think i will get SI trishea anytime soon.

Should i get lyca’s SI?

[gleaming bobcat]

just ascend him hes good

[gleaming bobcat]

depends on how many trish copies u have, make lycas si10 max and save golds for trish, golds are lot rarer so i wouldnt invest to heavily into lyca

[upper crypt]

I have 1 e+ trishea

But yeah I will do si10 first thanks

[upper crypt]

Alright thanks

[charred hemlock]

Hello again @gleaming bobcat and other fellow players. My Rowan is Ascended with one star and signature item probably at 2. Should I ascend him further, or should I swap him for Scarlett on the wish list? My heroes are level 200 and I’m at 23-39 at Campaign if it makes a difference.

[gleaming bobcat]

keep him on ur wishlist he needs at least a3 better a5 just for survivability, scarlet is okay but has mainly niche use case, rowan is way more versatile

[charred hemlock]

Got it. Thank you so much! 😊 I’ll go work on my Rowan. If you don’t mind me asking, how long have you been playing companions?

[gleaming bobcat]

231d today, which is 231d too long

[charred hemlock]

Hahaha! Why so?

[gleaming bobcat]

made me spend too much money

[charred hemlock]

Ah-ha-ha! I know what you mean. 😢

Any suggestions who to use against Soul Hound in Alliance mode?

[thorn holly]

Theres a Guide on reddit

[charred hemlock]

Oh, I’m actually there. Found for Classic server first. Will look on Companions subreddit now.

Looked at the guide. I don’t have most of Dimensionals mentioned. I only joined during SJW collab. But it’s ok. The both is too strong for me now.

[thorn holly]

Yea

Nothing u can do then just try your best

You can wait and try to copy Teams from other Players in your Contest

[nimble ore]

[nimble ore]

^^ this @charred hemlock , just copy one of the top 3 in your server and change according to your strengths

[urban plaza]

where can I check server age and when will be next dimensional event? any do and dont tips for that.

[short ginkgo]

Event be when they announce it 🤣

[late phoenix]

Next dim event will probably be in a couple months, you need to save destiny scrolls for that. Depending on your account it’s also good to save diamonds. If you’re a newer player it’s okay to spend in regular summons for now to develop your 4f heroes

[urban plaza]

currently Destiny scrolls 60x and Dia 50k , is it enough for next dim event? sir...

[late phoenix]

Not really

But you still have plenty of time to save

[stable sparrow]

you need around 1k invocation beween scrolls and dia

[hearty rain]

5 star tasi?

[plain patrol]

=todolist

[gleaming bobcat]

yeah

[grand spoke]

is there any event on the future that have using Summon mission? Should i save them up or just using them anytime?

[daring terrace]

Does wish beast change or stay the dragon?

[full jay]

no info yet

[spice inlet]

For Expedition, does the Queue expansion carry on to all expeditions ? or is it only for that specific one ?

[void mango]

It's only for one season of expedition. You'll have to purchase it again in the next season

[chilly tulip]

Any wishlist for companions?

[undone willow]

Hey is there a guide i can use?

For companions

[chilly tulip]

Pinned

[nimble ore]

Most recent one is here, also in pins

[keen sierra]

I'm stuck at stage 20-20

[nimble ore]

Some times you just need to afk

[spice inlet]

For the AFK rewards is there any sort of tactic for it ?

[short ginkgo]

🤔

[gleaming bobcat]

tf u mean? like push and afk for them

[spice inlet]

Like when you Mythic gear appear ? Should I claim it when a box is complete ?

[gleaming bobcat]

huh? u cant get mythic gear from chests, u can only get is as normal drops from ch32+

[spice inlet]

I see

Dont get the hostile answers, Its a questions channel for a reason, to ask and get answers, if you dont want to reply kindly ignore my question.

[plain patrol]

is this how i should build my team i dont really gwt ehat it means

[vestal briar]

I’ve been saving cards like crazy should I go for talene or the new hero haelus?

[wintry panther]

i have four E+ copies of shemira and shes the only unit at that level. i have a few more that are close like lyca, tasi, mishka, but basically i was wondering if now i should full send shemira ascensions. to my understand those four e+ copies are enough to get ascended 0*

i dont think i have enough fodder but i'll see along the way, worst case it takes a week ish longer to properly max her.

my current highest heroes are: ascended SJW, gold Trishea, then rest are e+

[nimble ore]

Up to you, I would probably suggest Talene. How many do you have saved?

[dull tree]

Hii, what 30si should I do? I've got the 300 emblems already

[nimble ore]

It takes 2 L+ (8 E+) and 2 E+ of fodder plus 4 E+ to take a hero to A0. If you have enough GB fodder take her up, she is a good early carry.

[dull tree]

Btw sorry, I saw a bit before you recommended going for talene over haelus,,,,
I have 414 sg cards, so, in any case, that'd get me to mythic maybe?
If you believe that's what I should do, then I could even maybe si30 talene

[nimble ore]

Imo Jinwoo

[wintry panther]

i see. when does early "end"? im a little worried she'll become useless or something. are there any GB units that are just straight up beter and i should hold fodder for instead?

[nimble ore]

@gleaming bobcat help please... jinwoo next?

[nimble ore]

I mean yeah Shemira isnt the best but she is one of the top 5/6 GB. You'll need to build out alot of heroes anyways.

The best GB is Mira, if you are close to her I would save.

Mid game is around the start of the xp wall (~lv 280)

[nimble ore]

Yeah if you go for Talene that's the SI30 you should do. Personally I may learn toward Talene. Performance wise, I'm not sure I can recommend one over the other. @full jay do you have any opinions?

I am assuming you are at E+ on Talene rn?

[wintry panther]

im not really close but not too far either. 3 more copies of mira will get me to four e+ copies. ig i'll hold off if shemira is barely contending for top 5

[nimble ore]

If you check the pins in #companions-lineup-help we have a good starter team you should shoot for.

[nimble ore]

I'm not even in what I would really consider "end" game and I already don't find her that useful but she has her niches. I would recommendations taking her up as part of your first 5

Or maybe 7

[full jay]

jinwoo

i dont need to see anything else lmao

oh you mean celestial performens

[nimble ore]

Thank goodness we had the same thought for that... buuuut I meant for SG

[wintry panther]

lmfao sounds good. i think im pretty well on track to have that pins line up u mentioned to the other person, minus brutus.

i reckon i'll be doing mishka, trishea, lyca, mira or shemira in terms of who is closest to ascended push.

thanks for all the insight btw! i'll go back to hoarding

[full jay]

talene is a flexible healer -that will get worse and outclassed over the time -(has a very nice cheat death tho)

haelus is a cda increasing shielder - that will get better over the time

there is no "better" it depends on what heroes you have available and how fast you can build them

standalone talene is more flexible and better

in a comp - it depends - tho talene is probably more flexible right now

while haelus will be more flexible in the future

[gleaming bobcat]

u and iperx already said it

[nimble ore]

I am worried about how niche Haelus is until a3..... but since I am already working on Talene I am finishing her first so I don't need to make a decision.

I see Talene as a much better jack of all trades and Haelus having more potential in niche situations.

[full jay]

(same goes btw for supports as raine, rosaline, silas and rowan)

they become increasingly stronger by the heroes they can buff

same as albedo - who has a monster with jinwoo now

Yea talene is the better standalone hero but overall a really bad support

she fullfills a cheat death / semi tank nieche

[nimble ore]

[full jay]

as soon as we get more and better tanks

or better dps that we have to support - we'll need less cheat deaths

and less low heals and more useful buffs

thats why talene will fall off and haelus will get better fyi

im kinda banking on the future with that one

[nimble ore]

Hmm that makes alot of sense looking down the hero pipeline

[full jay]

tho already pretty broken with audrae and arthur

[nimble ore]

Well we should assume power creep

[full jay]

like one audrae casts clears campaign except for heavy hp tanks like orthros/seirus

gwyneth clears with haelus mostly aswell

so as soon as we have a even more potent carry in a setup with tanks like arthur

[nimble ore]

Definitely. Next hero is wilder?

[tepid holly]

Solise non awakened

[nimble ore]

It would be nice to think of building more than one celehypo and instead having some diversity in options like Audrae or Mehira but with the current SG rates there is no way I'm buying my way through that

[tepid holly]

Felt

[full jay]

might be wrong but cycle was something like

scarlet->raku/(walker)->oden->safiya->haelus

[nimble ore]

yeah... I think wilders are up but I don't think they have many more dps crazy heroes left... Misha though

[full jay]

we also had the anasta with aBrutus inbetween and so on - makes it hard to keep up - but probably wilder yea

Lorsan would be great

[tepid holly]

I swear raku was before Scarlett

[nimble ore]

Thought it was raku -> scarlet(walker) -> Oden -> safiya

[tepid holly]

This is right

[full jay]

probably might've rememberd wrong lol

[nimble ore]

But I thought Anasta was like after raku...

Idk when

She was the one before?

[tepid holly]

Raku Scarlett anasta oden safiya

[nimble ore]

Yeah

That sounds right.. yeah they fucked the schedule with Safiya i think some of us were saying it was odd

[full jay]

i believe (walker) / (anasta)

were weakass lore drops just for the reason

we had like ferael -> mira aswell lmao

[nimble ore]

Yeah Mira drop was odd but nice

[full jay]

But we might be supposed to get a wilder lmao

emphasis on might be lmao

wouldnt wonder me if we get a new pet and aThane without warning

cant believe that we have one whale actually multi-building celestwings

[nimble ore]

I wouldn't mind aThane

Not sure how he sure change our meta here

I would assume they would change him a little

But that would be another awk. hero so soon for us

[full jay]

idk. heard he was good in pvp dont know his kit or abilities by any means lmao - im 0 into woke knowing

if i hear from testserver or patch notes then its time for me to study

[nimble ore]

Yuup

I could totally see someone like Tamrus being the next Wilder

Or Misha/Astar/Eorin. But we can all hope and pray it's Atheus if it's a Wilder

[tepid holly]

Ewwww

[nimble ore]

yeah unless it's Atheus I dont want em

[tepid holly]

Ngl I’ll just wait for iperx to say there a must and summon for them

If iperx quit then uhhhhh I guess I quit

[nimble ore]

That's when half of companions dies

[vestal briar]

Been kinda saving since forever like 171 😭 im on a newish server tho, feels like consensus from what I read here is haelus for future prospects maybe

[nimble ore]

It definitely goes back and forth

I'm finishing my Talene

At the end of the day there are stronger celehypos later.. so if you really care about the future you can save

[vestal briar]

Hmm true

[nimble ore]

I like the utility in Talene but I only have an E+ haelus so...

[vestal briar]

I dunno what other new Celeste are I’m a super old player that came back lol

[nimble ore]

Game breaking

Some 4f as well

So who knows if/ when they come out

[vestal briar]

What you think other new Celeste/hypos are up next in the pipeline?

[nimble ore]

Well there are a few bad ones next on the release order but then there are some very good ones like Liberta (<--- this is the guy you want). Lilith has been kinda releasing whatever though so we can expect some of the worst celehypos to possibly be skipped

Almost any of the modern celestials are far superior

But who knows truly

[vestal briar]

I see, ty for the info ❤️

[full jay]

(depends on the numbers)

thought the same for scarlet that she was gamebreaking

but her base atk is down by like 30%, her ability has 1200% less on ult and her ult-atk dmg stack has 50% less dmg overall and stacks only in 40% not 50% (so damage also ramping up slower, not only smaler gap)

is she still good - kinda

hard to figure out who is the best lb because of all that

[full jay]

quite a few to chose from

[nimble ore]

Here is the current recommended order for the first few celehypos

How many do we have you know

[nimble ore]

Of course, we need to consider changes that are made. Overall a general creep in power with occur to keep us interested.

Even with nerfed/changed heroes they'll most likely be better.

[vestal briar]

Yah uhhh classic has def turned into a different beast when I last played it lol

[vestal briar]

Reading her abilities wow def op af

[full jay]

that for sure - like there are some crazy ones as far as i know i cant tell wtf is happening in classic because my legendary highborn does as much as my a5 liberta

[vestal briar]

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

[nimble ore]

Ewww highborns. Completely turned me off to the game

Yeah the release history for the past year in classic has been pain and suffering for wallets

[burnt rampart]

are there some early-mid game tips i should 100% know? i started a week ago and got in a guild with the top players in the game and dont want to lack behind too much so anything would help

[swift swift]

do you get 20% attack and 20% damage or does the attack get replaced

[swift swift]

theres a guide in pinned but a big one is going for wilders and prioritizing signature items for trish and then other top heros after

save alliance coins for when stones get put in shop for t1 stone on main dmgers

dont use epic heros as upgrade fodder even if you need an upgrade

find 8 main heros you will focus on from each faction and never use them as fodder, the rest, if they are terrible and not used, you can use as fodder, since you need 5 for awakened heros and 8 for maxed awakened

[chilly falcon]

after which chapter do we stop getting more dust/xp?

[swift swift]

im pretty sure you always do but its not exponential

it increases either the exact same or almost the same as like chapter 12, so later on its basically nothing

[dire stirrup]

Which server is better classic or other one

[swift swift]

depends on what you like

classics has a ton of content and overwhelming to some and hard to get into for new people since you gotta learn a lot of mechanics, but if you like that learning process then classics is for you

companions is more chill, easy to start, less content later on, not much to do later on, but arena system is much better and pvp is a lot more fun, but some people find it too boring

if you never played afk companions should be where you start

[urban plaza]

This is my current line up and if I upgrade to legendary plus or smth higher from Maulers, what should it be? (2nd pic). Or do I need to upgrade for that fraction?

cos imma stuck at Forked Fate and need to build 2nd team line up better.

[dire stirrup]

Thx

[swift swift]

if you are going for maulers then skregg is pretty essential for mauler teams, paired with crassio is pretty good, but focus on wilders regardless until theyre a good level or until you unlock solise

skriath is good overall on all modes but not super good or essential

you should have a full wilder team and second team can be SJW with whatever other heros are left

you can do Nevanthi Lyca Mishka Trish and tasi if you have her or oku, or mehira

then second team sjw rowan talene and the rest is up to you for second team

[urban plaza]

got it mate, need to grind more for scolls 🥲

[dull tree]

Thank!!!!

[wide kettle]

How do I complete this task?

Pls answer me with a picture 💔🥲

“I went in every direction but it was useless

[swift swift]

grassland is a different land from the spawn grass

just occupy different lands grasses till you get it

i dont have vault of time so cant ss

probably the island above you

how do you have 2 legendary relics and still only on the first island😭

[wide kettle]

I’m new to this game and I have no idea what to do or play 🥲

[swift swift]

first of all leave your alliance and join an active one

[wide kettle]

Lol 😂

Why ?? Will it make any difference

[full jay]

go there

[wide kettle]

Omg this will take some time

[wide kettle]

But thx !!🙏

[swift swift]

yes a lot, for many reasons

not only vault of time

miss out on lots of rewards being in a worse alliance

[wide kettle]

Alright, this is bad. I will change the guild after it ends thx for the help !

[tiny saffron]

I've started on the new server, I only spent 500 diamonds on creating a guild and saved the rest. Please can someone tell me the best way to spend/save my diamonds for the highest/most value out of them. I want to spend then as efficiently/effectively as possible, many thanks.

[full jay]

pinned guides will help ya with store prios (emblems) and telling you to focus on dimevents

[tiny saffron]

@full jay thank you very much, I'll have a look

[gleaming bobcat]

it stacks

[fading meadow]

I have T2 weapon on Asolise, Trish, and SJW. Who/what gear to prioritize for T1/T2 going forward?

[swift swift]

thx

[full jay]

all your most used heroes for campaign without your inbox i can only make guesses

Marcielle, aBrutus, (Audrae), Mira, Crassio, Gwyneth, Belinda, Skriath, Lyca, Rosaline, Sonja

[fading meadow]

My bad

Do I just do the weapon first for most heroes? And at what point do I go back and do more gear for Trish

[full jay]

i do currently something along the lines of this - you could prio armor and boots on tanks over weapons

but i usally upgrade dps heroes atm first

will maybe upgrade some bulk on aBrutus, Arthur and other tanks sooner or later (possibly Albedo/Thoran/Sonja) e.g.

but am unsure much to focus on atm

[gleaming whale]

Should I ascend?

[full jay]

[fading meadow]

Thanks!

[full jay]

you can ascend using these heroes

so called fodder

please do not ascend using your gwyneth

[gleaming whale]

Ok I’ll wait and collect those

Am I meant to auto retire the really low level hero’s I get?

[full jay]

yep

keep auto retirement on all the way

read the guides pinned for more info and tips

[upper crypt]

I have never been so jealous in my life

[gleaming whale]

Thanks

[upper crypt]

Your welcome

Oh BTW I can ascend lyca now. But that means I won't have any wilder fodder. Should I do it or wait for 2 more copies of trishea which would prob take 2 weeks

[nimble sonnet]

Haha yeah, but if you play consistently for a year or so even as a f2p you’ll start having an overflow of fodder

It’s a real pain in the ass on my classic account, I have to retire like 20 L+ fodders every 2 months or so

[molten carbon]

which is safe to use as a fodder from wilders?

[short ginkgo]

None

[polar linden]

for arena defensive teams, theres this on the guide for swamp what can I swap grezhul for? since he's only elite atm

[cerulean wyvern]

How to combine beasts or how to buy beast from beast shop

[nimble ore]

Beasts must be at least Ascended to combine. You can get the coins for beast shop from not taking the new beast in combines.

The combining system is rng and terrible by the way. Super slow grind.

[fleet drum]

@nimble ore i finally got a dim spirit and have sjw maxed, i was thinking about making the invade team but which pet goes with it? I put the fat lizard by default since it's their best pet
Also wouldn't it better to slap salaki over kren? They're both at only m+ either way 🫠

[void hatch]

Is it strange to be contacted by someone for play and tchat in discord? The player who contact me is very weak

[sick galleon]

any idea when old dims are re-appear like marcille? for newer servers

[soft pelican]

how many emblems of each does it take to reach SI30?

[soft pelican]

thx

[wintry osprey]

Is there a trick to doing more guild hunt damage? I'm looking in guild and there's people doing close to 100 million more than me with what looks like comparable units

[soft pelican]

u have mortas?

[nova zinc]

nevanthi or desira as a healer?

[soft pelican]

nevanthi

[wintry osprey]

I don't

[soft pelican]

he can double dmg most of the time lol

[wintry osprey]

Ahh yeah looks like the people I'm looking at all have him. Makes sense

[nova zinc]

thank you!

[nimble ore]

Yeah fat lizard is correct. Salaki or Kren will work, sometimes ones performs better than the other

They are both usable at low investment

[fleet drum]

Ok ty
Do you put it before or after the full dim comp? 🤔 I usually put wilders last

[jagged dragon]

Whats the strongest/non 1 copy Hypogean hero?

[fleet drum]

Mortas with mehira in second. You don't need to go too heavy on the ascension side M is enough.

[jagged dragon]

So no need to star either to have them strong?

[nimble sonnet]

Mehira even works at mythic with an SI of 30

She works that way against high tier campaign enemies on classic

Same goes for Mortas, it's mainly abt getting his SI to 20, not even 30!

[jagged dragon]

Oh i see that nice

Does aTalene need 8x 5stars to get 5 star as well?

[stable sparrow]

yeah

[jagged dragon]

Thats wild 💀

[tiny saffron]

Hey I’m sorry I know this has probably been asked a bunch does anyone know when 227 came out?

[nimble ore]

For arena? Normally I go Wilders then Mauler Rush teams 1 and 2

[nimble ore]

Companions servers come out once every 2 days

I'm not sure which server is the newest but if it is 227 then the oldest it can be is 2 days

But my arena is very different compared to older servers....

[final merlin]

I am a new player, I need help knowing how to make a team?

[tiny saffron]

Okay so it should be easy to catch up hypothetically, and I haven’t played in years my old account is a classic server and like an og server

[fleet drum]

Wait what's the second mauler team ?

Or did i misunderstand 😭

[nimble ore]

That's the invade team name -> mauler rush + Jinwoo

Unless you are thinking of another team

[oak anchor]

whats this requirement i got 3 to lvl 4 already

[nimble ore]

You need all relics at lv 3

Across all classes

[oak anchor]

why it say all core, i thought it meant main 3 or something, its bar is 1/3 is confusing too

[nimble ore]

The core relic is the center one, the overall lv of that class

[oak anchor]

ah k

[nimble ore]

So it's just saying take literally everything to lv 3

[fleet drum]

Oh omg ok i missread thank you

[gleaming bobcat]

@rich cape

do i have anyone else is the question, idk cha or ainz maybe gwyneth?

[rich cape]

ainz and gwyneth arent worth it anymore they will be probably one of the 1st ones to get swapped out

cha is good for 2 DR rounds, chicken si30 is a good overall boost in DR and campaign in your situation you could do si30 belinda I guess but the gains are minimal in my opinion

[gleaming bobcat]

i use belinda nowhere except dr and alliance feels meh

[rich cape]

just stack chests

[gleaming bobcat]

what about silas if i would ever pull that fucker same for chicken

[rich cape]

if you dont tryhard campaign and with AbEx gone miras si30 isnt that good

[rich cape]

not worth it as DR debuffs doenst even allow him to do his things in most of the cases

[gleaming bobcat]

ig i save then and might to belinda if i need it for dr

ty for the advice

[fleet drum]

[fleet drum]

Uhh btw how important is 5* skreg on invade team? Mine isn't maxed in terms of si nor stars (3*) 😔

[gleaming bobcat]

good for energy recovery on allies so id say important as energy is most important thing with haste, als hes a tank so all stats he can get are good

[fleet drum]

I'm lowkey worried the team isn't good enough i'm tempted to swap Laios on my dims team with sjw instead

[fleet drum]

Yeah i figured 😔

[gleaming bobcat]

i would use the exact same lineup if my crassio wasnt ass, its a good comp, u can swap sjw and salaki maybe and skreg and crassio spots

[thorn holly]

Yo why didnt u answer

[gleaming bobcat]

answer what? did i miss a message, my bad

[nimble ore]

What's your crassio at? He's like attracted to my account

[nimble ore]

What Crown said

I would do the same swaps he said too

[gleaming bobcat]

a2 si10 bro is a stick in the wind and just dies

[nimble ore]

🪦 literally

You think he is worth the si20 at least at a5?

Cuz mine is sitting at si10 rn

Good gear too

[gleaming bobcat]

yes hes even worth si30 imo if u have everything else built, can solo carry in pvp and pve

[nimble ore]

I have more to SI still

[gleaming bobcat]

yeah have 3/4 pieces for him too

[nimble ore]

Yeah the gear I dont want I always get

[gleaming bobcat]

i think i havent gotte anything useful in terms of gear at all lately maybe a gb mage hat for shemira but thats useless as well kinda

[nimble ore]

Yeah

I feel you.. same here

I got some neutral mythics recently

[gleaming bobcat]

yeah absolutely blows getting that useless stuff

[fleet drum]

Lmao pls mine is a2 si0

So do i keep the team or nah cuz i been getting mixed signals 😭

[solemn thunder]

im assuming i should save wish leafs but whats the amount i should save until before using them?

[full jay]

skreg pre a5 is kinda useless

[nimble ore]

At your deficit yes, for most of us, no

[full jay]

i think in pvp so too, would rather have a rowan than him or smth along the lines of that

[nimble ore]

If it's solely about creating a haste engine for Jinwoo, I agree

[fleet drum]

[nimble ore]

At that point don't use jinwoo mauler rush without skreg a5 just create a jinwoo cha haste comp

[full jay]

the comp is mainly jinwoo skreg a3 doesnt do much for the crassio, aBrutus aswell as neither for the salaki

[fleet drum]

My m+ cha si0 bouta slay hard

[fleet drum]

Yah that was my feeling too

[nimble ore]

You can still run those maulers as their own comp, or even with Jinwoo. I do fine with it and my skregg isnt a5. But I am also in s178 so my competition is a little easier

[fleet drum]

Yeah the best i did was top8 not too long ago but other than that i'm content with being top30 with the amount of mfs that snipe you last second 😭

And also pvp being half of a rng mess

Is this better or should i swap talene for Abrutus?

[full jay]

no talene prevents resets from enemy jinwoos aswell as gives the comp some healing - is better than aBrutus

[fleet drum]

Yee as i thought i just been freaking out a bit with our discussion 😭

[hearty rain]

What bonus do you get from T1

[full jay]

a rgb frame and a whole lot of 6% of stat increase

[thorn holly]

I personally Play Jin with the mauler Team

Can only recommend that

[tepid holly]

Same

[worthy moth]

Hellp everyone i'm wondering if i should spend my diamonds for summons or save can you help i'm at stage 24-8

[shrewd marlin]

Use them on summons you can start saving for new dims at like ch31

[worthy moth]

okay thank you

[wraith dune]

Wanted to know if there's anything worth it for doing the second life thing? Or is it just there

[random tundra]

can someone give the codes please

[tiny saffron]

In capturing beasts, should I try for the highest tier beast, or a specific beast if it is there?

[full jay]

highest beast in meta order - check pin for pet guide

other than that focus on pulling every pet 230 times

pet levels do matter specially with celestwing and such

[tiny saffron]

Thank you very much@full jay

[grand spoke]

Mauler - Brutus or Crassio?
Graveborns - Shemira first then Silas?

[gleaming bobcat]

crassio, shemira (for dr) then silas

[opal sigil]

i currently have mortas at L+, i only stargazed 2 copies of him, i got the other 4 from summons, should i get him to mythic?

[nimble ore]

Yeah celehypos don't fall under normal combine rules bc they arent 4f

[nimble ore]

You only lv them with themselves, you have no reason to not up him

[opal sigil]

ye i know, i mean, he is at L+, should i stargaze 2 more copies or no?

i initially only stargazed him twice, and over time i summoned 4 more copies from normal summons

[full jay]

you can just buy him from arena

like buy 2x reds and wait for leftover coins and skip other emblems for a specific time

his mythic +20 is mainly nice for alliance stuff so far, not sure if the survivability helps into any dream realm either

[opal sigil]

ok, thank you

[cloud rain]

When should I stop saving and start spending these resources?

[full jay]

dust == no need to save, overflow

xp == spend it mainly at lvl 280-320+ when you're really really stuck

or for a small boost inbetween if you f.e. only need to level one hero to level up your whole resonance level

[cloud rain]

Maybe save dust? I’m first day playing

Or no?

@full jay

[full jay]

use dust when you need it

you wont need it for 99% of the game

[cloud rain]

Wow👀

[full jay]

thats something everyone is kinda stuck with that plays for specific days - maybe not as much but everyone is overflowing in dust

my f2p is overflowing aswell

[cloud rain]

Got it. Thank you

[cloud rain]

@full jay it’s good?

[gleaming bobcat]

remove lucius and put belinda

[cloud rain]

Kk ty