companions-questions

[turbid condor]

Hey what is more ftp friendly classic or companions?

[tiny saffron]

yah and got top 9 in cs arena, guess im just too pro

[tiny saffron]

both are fine for f2ps, it just depends on what you want and schedule.

[turbid condor]

Ideally just want to be able to compete in the pvp game modes

[late phoenix]

I feel like companions is better for that at the start, classic regions are huge

[tiny saffron]

@turbid condor

[turbid condor]

Ya I saw this thanks

I’m kinda curious tho as a new players what’s been the devs focus lately has it been more on companions classic or kinda equal for both?

[tiny saffron]

honestly they have different focus on each, classic gets alot of new content and heroes, companions don't get shit and if they do its either they ruin the existing content or introduce a stupid one

[turbid condor]

Ah so companions doesn’t rly get significant updates?

[tiny saffron]

How disappointing I was hoping for a frieren collab

Solo leveling so overrated sighh

Oh well whatever makes them money

[tiny saffron]

trash manhwa but good for this game since hes op

[tiny saffron]

it doesnt,

just see for yourself which you like more. Companions is beginner friendly but gets boring in a month. Classic is too much and you need to study a lot of guides to be competitive, and it needs to be in your daily routine and takes alot of time so its not ideal for peeps who have life

[turbid condor]

Ya thats true idk prolly gonna go for classic then future updates def important to me thanks for all the info

[nimble ore]

Eh the manhwa isn't trash, maybe repetitive but not trash. The anime has been kinda a let down though

[tiny saffron]

garbage plot with cardboard edgy mc

then again i also thought it was the best when i read that, its what introduced me to manga manhwas after all, but youll see how bad it is when youve actually read a good one

anyways its just my opinion so dont argue -_-

[nimble ore]

I definitely haven't read much manhwa wise after SL so I can see your point.

[tiny saffron]

try ORV if you havent, most popular same genre

night sis

[nimble ore]

I'll check it out thanks! Night

[half egret]

So, companion is like a tutorial to classic?

[half egret]

Bro is Just too op, there's no real development

By the way, what are the whales opinions on Oden?

[half egret]

I recommend danmachi

[late phoenix]

With dims right around the corner I doubt anyone’s pulling for him rn

[void mango]

I was planning on skipping Oden to save for the dims and extra spirits to top Arthur up

[half egret]

Fair

[tired plover]

is he worth?= or should i wait

[full jay]

in 15 days dimensional heroes will come

[half egret]

the waiting is what kills me

[late phoenix]

Think of it as more time to stack up resources

[half egret]

i need to actually save my diamonds now

[proud shard]

@tiny saffron just take ORV for example, peak manhwa

Lol didnt read a bit more

[rustic summit]

Would be great to have orv collab when anime will come out

[rustic summit]

Idk, I think rn manhwa is great, but it becomes peak near the end of the novel

[compact forge]

Ahhh yes 🙂‍↕️
Translation was weird but it points at the right direction 👍🏻

I do think frieren would be a great addition to the game as dims

I finished SL manhwa.. 7/10 😬

[tiny saffron]

Where did he come from ☠️

[full jay]

walkers walking dead

shadow release because he's so broken so that you're unable to divine summon him

(jk for everyone reading he is trash please do not wishlist him)

[tiny saffron]

😭

[wet horizon]

whats the best lineup for stage 9 with a good team mate

[tiny saffron]

read guides pinned here. Wilders are the best rn

[trim night]

Who do I pick to summon?

[steep patrol]

Talene, mortas, twins

[tiny saffron]

letting it marinate at chap 200 coz i dont wanna wait weekly

[proud shard]

@tiny saffron oh man you should at least get to 250 its so good art is gorgeous

[tiny saffron]

i know but not gonna🙄

[wary yew]

Wait really? So soon? I haven’t been looking at updates

[split dragon]

how do you use the spirit dew to upgrade celestwing

[dapper adder]

Manhwa is good, but not that amazing, but novel is amazing, and it's like a lot of chapters, like 551 is not that much, but still ..

[nimble ore]

Need to ascend first

[gloomy swallow]

Oden worth getting?

[dapper adder]

If you have more than a 1000 spins ready, then yeah, he is a great hero, just in the wrong timing

[gloomy swallow]

I got a 10th of that

[dapper adder]

So no, just save for Solo collab

[full jay]

n

Mira is already released in Companions - Oden is 10x is to slow without Energy regen rellics.

You can't build a stalling/cc comp with him that works well because of that. Because it is not Classic.

Mira fullfills his job, has better/easier access to cc and deals way more damage.

(aswell as a Revive/2nd Life)

[glass hemlock]

lyca si30 now or should i pray for the next collab to be ass and build albedo to si30

[tiny saffron]

lyca isn't urgent, just great to have. Do you really need to 30 someone now? might as well just wait

[manic lodge]

i got 5* talene and 5* lucretia. Should i go for another hero or save it for new one ?

[tiny saffron]

no ones really worth, there should be a new celestial soon after collab

[manic lodge]

i was thinking orthos i have him legendary+ only getting him from normal summons lol but not worth like you said so i will save it ty

[tiny saffron]

the biggest whale in companions who quit once said he was the worst he built so theres that

[manic lodge]

maybe i can get him to ascended from normal summons

[undone bane]

am i supposed to ascend these guys or na i m confused now ;-;

[tiny saffron]

ops

[tiny saffron]

no, and read guides

[manic lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-perfectlybalanced-gif-18301221

[undone bane]

i did but i read the wrong one and then i read the right one and was confused

[full jay]

everything pinned in here is correct - there are 2 versions of the game classic and companions

[undone bane]

isn t wukong only in classic ;-; or am i tripping

[full jay]

wukong is in here but harder to get and useless

[undone bane]

ik i was reading the classic one first then went to companions

[full jay]

even the wukong part from classic isnt accurate anymore - think you start with one out of two kinda okay/strong ish chracters and try to rigpull some broken graveborns there - so really outdated stuff

in companions you pull wilders

[undone bane]

i got a "legendary" (yellow rarity) mage in classic so i m using wukong as frontline lol

[digital sandal]

Hello, whats the order of ascension in wilders faction?

Thats my options RN i dont know who to focus on

[manic lodge]

Is this not like normal pets right ? Do I need 4 mythic for ascended or i will get ascended for 2 reds ?

i got package for it i don't know if its worth it it gives 5 elite

[tiny saffron]

you can swap levels anytime, trish is best hero rn. Read pins so you know what to do and not to

[tiny saffron]

well it shows 2 so unless theres some hidden🙄

[manic lodge]

yea but in here it says ascend beasts to higher tiers to unlock the following talents one by one. Mythic got 1 skill it have total 8 skill so like if i am not wrong or ascended one have 3 skills it should be like mythic > mythic+ > ascended > 1 star > 2 stars > 3 stars > 4 stars > 5 stars total 7 upgrades total 8 skills

if i can get with 2 mythics to ascended then its worth to get that 5 elite package

[full jay]

after 2 myth it becomes asc

there is no myth+ for that pet

[manic lodge]

damn its okay then ty

so asc have 3 skills ?

[full jay]

asc has 3 that need to be upgraded

[manic lodge]

okay nice ty

[full jay]

iirc wait i can look for a screen

[manic lodge]

i got baited for one by one part lol

[full jay]

a1 had 3
a0 has 2 then ig

[tiny saffron]

whale things sory

[full jay]

a3 currently has 5

[manic lodge]

then it will get 2 skills on a5 i guess

[manic lodge]

[manic lodge]

what it needs to each stars 1 mythic again ?

[full jay]

yep

every star is a mythic

9x copies for each star

[manic lodge]

ty

[late phoenix]

Holy shit

[gloomy swallow]

Should we spend the beast wishes or wait?

[cedar hare]

do I need to buy oath before I start expedition or I can buy it later?

[tiny saffron]

Do faction specific beast buffs apply to celestial for example

Light bearer buff but the comp has 4 light and 1 celestial

[cedar hare]

yes it does

you can try it

[tiny saffron]

Nice thank you!

[shell nest]

why quit ?

[full jay]

Tank quit because Montes aswell as quite a few other people abused an exploit to gain more Hearts and free summon stuff.

After that got out he was disappointed that there were no punishment for the exploit abuse.

Aswell as probably being a bit burned out by the very slow leveling at arround lvl 390. Have no other info - Kasu said also the new pet system was something not enjoyable for Selen and Tank.

(So biggest whale Tank quit - Selen soon quit after or became Asta) idk.

Selen was either 2nd or 3rd biggest whale btw.

[half egret]

rip

[frosty jacinth]

Is there more info on the upcoming dimensionals?

[full jay]

nope, other than its porbably solo leveling nothing

testserver might have them 3-7d earlier

[frosty jacinth]

Thanks!

[median basalt]

Is oden worth pulling?

[unique inlet]

Do you guys know when was the latest server released?

[tiny saffron]

theres collab

[tiny saffron]

yesterday

[median basalt]

When and who?

[unique inlet]

Thanks

And how often do servers release?

[tiny saffron]

solo leveling, 2 weeks

[tiny saffron]

every 2 days

you can check each reset time

[unique inlet]

Thanks mate

[median basalt]

Thanks

[nimble ore]

You would need to buy it before expedition. You can see the time left to buy up at the top. You do not need an oath to participate fyi

[cedar hare]

ok I will wait until last 2 hours

if I didn’t get 5000 thousand then I will join without it

[nimble ore]

If you buy that oath you must stay in your starting league to get any of those rewards. The 10k and 20k are rewards for holding the highest 2 castles in expedition. Realistically a league will only be able to hold one. Also remember there are 12 leagues so if you aren't in the top guild for your server you may only get the 5k diamonds back that it cost to buy.

If you are thinking about jumping to different leagues don't get the oath

[cedar hare]

ohh so its not easy to get the 10 thousand gems

I dont think I am in top guilds so I wont buy it

thx for telling me

[nimble ore]

Yup. The 10k reward is the 2nd best castle and the 20k is the top castle. Lots of whales will be fighting for the top stuff.

Expedition still gives lots of rewards regardless of the oath

Waiting until right before and then making the decision is best

[cedar hare]

thx tenacity you helped me a lot last 2 days

[nimble ore]

Happy to help

[cedar hare]

nah I won’t bother buying it this is my first expedition I don’t know what to do on it until now 😅😂

So i will learn this time and think about the oath next time

[nimble ore]

Smart smart

@cedar hare

[cedar hare]

thx 🙏🏼

I looked at it before but didn’t understand every thing

I need to participate first

[nimble ore]

^^ that is for general members. Deputies and Leaders have alot more going on

When you are in your first one feel free to reach out and ask whatever

It's pretty easy as a general member once you've done it once or so

[cedar hare]

ok 🙏🏼

[nimble ore]

Which server do you play on?

[cedar hare]

s201

[nimble ore]

Ah okay I'm surprised you are getting expedition so early. My mid spending account is on s178 and our server skipped the first expedition from "not enough players"

[nimble ore]

s200 has lots of whales I believe. Many players from earlier servers were waiting for 200 to be released. Not taking the oath is a decent idea i think

[cedar hare]

yeah I won’t take it

[stable sparrow]

day 2 of server its registation

[stable sparrow]

server 200 already start

its just server for the 1 rst one

[nimble ore]

Insane decision by lilith

[stable sparrow]

yeah and you need to be chap 10

if not you join late

[nimble ore]

Chapter 10 is like 2 days maybe

[stable sparrow]

if you play a lot yeah and do all the additional content

[tiny saffron]

its doable on day 1, or day 2 reset

[steep dock]

oden worth summoning?

[umbral sorrel]

save for collab next banner

[steep dock]

alr

[full jay]

focus on mira, outperforms oden in every aspect

dims will probably better in 13d

[steep dock]

i've been tryna get copies to max her

this is what im working with rn

[full jay]

if you can try to get more SI materials and use them on Trishea that'll carry you further through

you're kinda behind tempo - but if you do not care about being in the top spots for competitive modes your collection looks pretty good to climb through the modes like campaign/tower/forked fate

[steep dock]

wdym tempo

[full jay]

like you see that lvl 360 thingy

in terms of "martial rating"

[steep dock]

ohh I see

[full jay]

also knowing you have shalltear you're from an pretty old server -so lots of people are probably at higher levels and generate better ressources/results in arena/dream realm/guild hunt

[steep dock]

yeahhh, I max out at around top 250-300 in arena

[full jay]

yea its rough behind behind tempo - that limits the ammount of materials you get to max out your characters a lot

[steep dock]

okay tyty, I didn't know abt that at all

[full jay]

like my full f2p accfrom s157 looks like that because of it

[steep dock]

yeah, im in serv 113

[full jay]

because if you have the ressources from high arena spots - the f2p gets like between 50-100ish

in s157 - it does kinda well enough

in local arena it was almost always top10

[steep dock]

also, what does rebirth do??

I seen it and I was wondering if it was worth doing

[full jay]

gives you an option to start on a new server with a benefit (f.e. you have shemira at a specific star level, belinda at a specific star level and can choose instead of a random 0/50 pull to get a specific pull)

[steep dock]

ah, so its not really worth doing

[full jay]

only if you want to start on a new server - it doesnt delete your current server but has a timely cooldown

[steep dock]

ooo, well thats actually not bad

I started a new acc on classic

going decent, much harder though

[full jay]

i cant help with that - gl on that

its like spam graveborns and follow some phd level guides

3 really important gamemodes and 100 different other things you can do - but way more competitive, way more p2w uptop

companions is more chill / less content tho

[steep dock]

I wanna build eironn but I have more copies of seirus

[steep dock]

yeah I can tell, classic has sm sweats and if you mess smthing up your whole acc is cooked for at least 2 weeks lol

[full jay]

I'd still build eironn and ignore seirus or take him off your wishlist and focus on everything else

[steep dock]

I might do that, but I wanna get solise to 4* so it doesn't hurt to get copies of him for the future

[median basalt]

How did you get the hero exp to lvl them like this, i am on 156 and struggling to get them to 320

[full jay]

i waited with my instant resources used them really really late

because pre that it was just waiting for a5 marcielle and a5 trishea - they burst through 90% of comps no matter the diff - because it mainly 30-45 levels for that account

[median basalt]

Yea i didn’t think of that until it was too late to save them

[full jay]

as we f.e. had shalltear

which was also able to solocarry pretty much a team solution

so with that in mind you kinda dont really need the levels early and can just be patience with resources till you're totally starved out at 300+ and then spam them

push stages and have a better resource generation way earlier

because higher stage = higher idle resources

and everyday using the 2h + 100 diamonds 2 hour thingy

[median basalt]

Yea i get it but i was pretty new to the game so didnt know these things and i am still trying to get trishea to a5

[median basalt]

Started to do it late also xd

[full jay]

yea was lucky that she was in a divine scroll rotation so i was able to "cheat" on her inbetween

[median basalt]

Nice btw do you know anything about the characters coming in the solo leveling colab?

[full jay]

3-7d prior we get information from testserver

so no not until next weeks or even if unlucky in 10d

[median basalt]

Okay thanks

Also another question then servers become older do they merge or no?

[flint drum]

When did the last server come out if anyone knows?

[full jay]

^

[tiny saffron]

203 was today, every 2 days

[tiny saffron]

no

[full jay]

yea reset was 2 hours after - so he can calc it from there

but i mean if 203 was todaay better info ty

[half flame]

What are the things I need to hoard for the dimensional heroes?

[full jay]

diamonds and divine scrolls

https://github.com/aesoopIT/afk_companion/blob/main/chances_simulator.py here is python based calculator by sailus

[half flame]

Thank you!

[undone bane]

how many copies of a character do u need to max them out

[full jay]

24 if you have none

but with dimensionals you usally can unlock them on epic with freebees

so you have 23 left to go

for other characters its pinned herehttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1301259004407971840/1339646775266644109/AFK_COMPANIONS_ASCENSION.jpg?ex=6879d908&is=68788788&hm=9fef1a6981fbc416c45c542a481f4c611879c9ed98b7b00803c358c3d7cbdbd2&

[half egret]

bro.

i AIN'T maxing out SHIT

i don't have enough scrolls for that.

[elfin mirage]

You will. Eventually

[half egret]

i guess so?

[full jay]

there are plenty full f2ps that max out stuff in 30-45d

like your first dimensional event gives you one a5 char

then if there another got divine summon event like trishea, another a5

then you start to max out slowly wilders like mishka/lyca/nevanthi/tasi

sooner or later you max out maulers or hit some other lucky pulls for heroes at a5

like if you have the stamina to play through the grind then its not that deep or hard

[sick galleon]

Beginner question here
I only have Lyca A0 and the rest is pretty much E+ and waiting for fodders/dupes before investing. Have like 100k diamonds should I spend in 10x pulls or wait for an event or dim collab? and also when should I stop if I need to go with 10x pulls?

[full jay]

do you have any divine summon scrolls left or only 100k diamonds?

[full jay]

at first its for sure wait for the dimensionals to see their potential whether they're really good, mid or bad

and then its whether you're close to something big like building trishea which would be dpending on the strength of the dims maybe more worth

but the thing is you cant control normal summons - while dim collabs guarantee you pretty much your rewards

[undone bane]

if i get 3 copies of a hero should i put him into my wishlist to finish him quicker or na

[sick galleon]

I have 81 scrolls as well

didn't spend yet

[sick galleon]

This is my current wilders i think it's worth to wait for dimentionals and slowly try to build them

[full jay]

here are your results:

(14 = a0)
so on avg you currently would get an a1 dimensional hero

[full jay]

if the event is ongoing for the next 30d after it releases in 13d you probably get enough for 23 copies which would give you one a5 hero

[undone bane]

if i have 3 copies of isabella should i put her on wishlist or na

[full jay]

shes only good for dream realm / guild hunt

depends on what you have but there are like 6 other more important ones to build

[sick galleon]

thank you, def waiting then

[full jay]

i think so too, no worries, you're welcome

[undone bane]

so far only got one graveborn from my wishlist lol

[full jay]

damn wanted to say im still using mine at a very low level but shes a2 already

for the most part i even used her in that specific dream realm against ice shemira from epic onwards without upgrading

she has really rare usecases

[undone bane]

i m just asking because i have no graveborn to build

cause as i said i only got one graveborn from wishlist so far

[full jay]

yea - no shes a skip if you're competitive

if you do just4fun stuff you do you

[undone bane]

then i won t put her on there

[full jay]

yea its like idk you could argue for her instead of shemira maybe

but shemira is overall for the most part better and i think you'd brick your account on the long run

[undone bane]

yeah this is what my wishlist looks like now

and i don t want to build multiple of the same faction at once but i don t have a lot of dups of other factions just wilders

[void mango]

Is awakened Talene worth building the other celestials to increase her ascension tier?

I've been using her at A1 and she's been a big help in campaign but I don't know how much of a difference extra stars on her would make

[digital canyon]

Should we be buying the Wish Leafs from the shop every reset?

[full jay]

i mean a2 is what most krakens/whales set on

[full jay]

if you can afford it without limiting your divine pulls for the next collab event yes

if not - probably no

[frozen spire]

I’m sure it’s been asked a lot but I missed it, what are the thoughts on oden

[tired plover]

is there any Active codes atm?

[full jay]

too slow, maybe if you're a giga kraken worth

like mira does everything what he does

he is really good in shutting down stuff that needs energy and can make certain campaign/forked fate/tower stages easier

but basically you have mira which takes his spot - but oden will be better on wishlist than isabella/treznor for sure

[tired plover]

iprex is mehira good? i got her twice already

[frozen spire]

Mira is amazing

[frozen spire]

I’ll wait for his wishlist then, I have Isa solely for DR and no idea where trez is used

[full jay]

trez finds some weird usage in f2p arena and abex (tho I haven't seen abex season 3 since 4 months )

[frozen spire]

I’m currently in S2 of abex

And I’ve got spots saved on wishlist for trans so I’ll wait for dims and oden can be built later from what I’ve gathered

[placid raft]

Hi, so I only recently started playing again after not playing since I think 2022. How do you get beast coins/tokens? And how does the merge option function?

Also, how do I unlock the Arcane Labyrinth? I'm at stage 12-17 and it's still locked.

[steep patrol]

It's not available yet

[placid raft]

Ah, thank you. And the beast tokens? I have the combine feature thing unlocked, but I have no idea how it works.

[tiny saffron]

merging pets is random, talents given will be based on what your 2 pets have combined. E.g. 4 talents + 4 talents may get 4/5/6, its luck based. Tokens are what you get from combining

[placid raft]

I see, but how do I actually merge them? Do they need to be of a certain ascension level before I can merge them?

[lapis terrace]

hello, as a novice where to spend diamonds?

[tiny saffron]

ascended

[tiny saffron]

tavern summons and collabs

[placid raft]

Ah, thank you. I only have one pet at mythic level. So now I know when I can use that feature.

[tribal loom]

Hello , sry for this question...

Is oden worth pulling for a f2p (-250-300 scroll)

[tiny saffron]

collab after him

[lapis terrace]

wdym by collab?

[umbral sorrel]

Dimensional hero/es release, you’ll see one after Oden

[tribal loom]

Ok ty

[tired plover]

this worth?

[full jay]

if you can guaranteed reach the milestones -> yes
if not -> no

[tired plover]

so def not this one

its only 20 mins left

[full jay]

no its 20min to register with it

but the milestones are in the expidition/goldenfrontier modes #golden-frontier-chat

[tired plover]

u think i can do it? if im not experienced

[full jay]

i mean it basically is a flip whether you have active and strong players in your league and guild and micromanage that mode well

[tired plover]

ahh

[full jay]

that mode is a teamgame with a league of 160 players and 12 leagues are fighting each other

and all are trying to reach the gildedcity/gilded tree reward

[tired plover]

well guild no. def not

just got talene, is she worth unupgraded?

[umbral sorrel]

Yes, she's useful even at elite since her losing hp provides healing

[trim night]

Who do I stargaze?

[bitter forum]

you got a copy of the twins

[trim night]

Nope.

[forest holly]

whats a meta campaign hero rn?

[bitter forum]

one of the better unit to stargaze but you can't go bad with mortas and talene

[trim night]

So I get a copy of the twins, and then go all in for talene and then mortas ?

[forest holly]

im new to companions so what hero or something i should get?

??

[umbral sorrel]

Check pinned guides, wishlist there

[forest holly]

yk idle heroes right

[umbral sorrel]

yes, get a copy of twins then Talene or save for potential release and/or for when you're further in and know what content you want to focus

[umbral sorrel]

nope

[forest holly]

oh

[trim night]

One last thing, do I keep investing in wilders even after I got solise or swap to maybe maulers and get brutes?

[forest holly]

u guys have the wishlist list?

[umbral sorrel]

by investing do you mean faction scrolls and tavern elite choice cards? If so, they're both heavily limited so it's kind of an up to you. Wilders are still the strongest faction, and you can get 2* solise having only 5 asc with stars which you'll get very naturally from doing summons, same as awBrutus but wilder tavern faction cards are still better value than mauler since the heroes themselves are

[forest holly]

.

[umbral sorrel]

@forest holly ^ guides are pinned

[trim night]

I see thanks.

[compact forge]

I’d suggest going into your first expedition without the oath

U lose the oath if u change leagues btw

[steep patrol]

If you have a strong guild you can do it 😎

[near tendon]

Is this companion server same with the classic one?

[tiny saffron]

no

[near tendon]

But this server has collab heroes?

[tiny saffron]

yes

[near tendon]

Thanks!

[tiny saffron]

you cant get the past ones though, only the upcoming ones

[near tendon]

What are the collab heroes available in this server?

[tiny saffron]

the only one you cam get would be the solo leveling in 11 days and others in the future

in classic you can get all iirc

[near tendon]

Does the older server in companion has the past collab?

[tiny saffron]

if you mean would you be able to get them if you go to old servers, then no. Everyone there would have them except you

[near tendon]

Oh in new servers only new upcoming collabs are available

[tiny saffron]

yes because they give it in a limited event

[near tendon]

Old collabs rerun or nah?

[tiny saffron]

companions is new
so for reference, overlord collab was ran on classic years ago and was rerun on both classic and companions this year, so who knows

[near tendon]

Alright

Thank you for answering my questions

[tired plover]

Wdym

[compact forge]

If u pay 5k diamonds for the oath

1. U can’t change your league, if u do u burn the 5k diamonds
2. U can get back the diamonds if u stay with your league tho
3. If ur league is inactive then u cant move to another league or else u burn your diamond

[tired plover]

Alr so find league play oath

[compact forge]

Depends on how strong your guild is, like @steep patrol said

[compact forge]

Yes..? 🤨

[muted fox]

Is there a list for companions codes?

[upper veldt]

Okay but when are we getting Labyrinth? 👉👈

(seriously, Companions is so lacking in game modes there's nothing to do, it just feels empty, I'm begging for more to do every day)

[placid raft]

Do I need to save faction scrolls for the crossover event, or just the regular scrolls?

[nimble ore]

No active codes

[nimble ore]

Save destiny scrolls

[nimble ore]

Hopefully soon but no one knows

[placid raft]

So I don't need to save regular and Faction scrolls at all? Just go for 10 pulls?

[nimble ore]

You can only pull dimensional from destiny scrolls during the collab

[placid raft]

I see. Thank you!

[lapis terrace]

khazard any good? just got him on summons

[obtuse rain]

Any recommendations for me for future please? Maybe should reset laos and invest in something else?

[tiny saffron]

no

[tiny saffron]

that acc is pretty much fked, restart amd read guides pined here

[obtuse rain]

Why restart? Is there literally everything that bad? I was playing it for two months

[full jay]

upgraded some worthless heroes like seirus and morrow

you're far behind martial rating

means less resources = uncompetitive account

if you want to have fun and do your collection stuff - you can keep it, but generally you can have a low efford f2p that is up in tempo

like your progression should look something like this and that is still not optimal

[obtuse rain]

So you just need to get only characters from wild category and elf ?

[full jay]

i mean you cant get marcielle anymore - but yea you focus on wilder

after unlocking aSolise you focus on Mauler to unlock aBrutus

you can read the guides

+20 marcielle (elf) would've been better and to +30 trishea - but i wanted to try her out on my f2p so I did

unpin that and let that be pinned in the #golden-frontier-chat @worldly veldt

i get that some people are stupid but that guide is so low level that its actually annoying me to scroll past it everytime rn if i want t o send someone a link

but ig maybe unfair from me - it is still a guide

like my magicians hat cheat sheet is atm also useless and annoys me since the event is inactive

[obtuse rain]

So you mean by guide this one?

[full jay]

mainly this and

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1301259004407971840/1353995183724826735/beguiner_guide.jpg?ex=687bf307&is=687aa187&hm=0aff2dc49008421d083d2be1c7c8331d0436277fa7b4508c294842b684baf420&

[full jay]

this is a bit older and smaller so the guide finder guides are more accurate

but the basics about woke heroes, what to buy in the store and other things are better explained in here

since you're really limited like the store reloads every week and arena store aswell

so you can only get so many emblems as free to play and should always buy them

[obtuse rain]

Wym so low level guide? It has so many divisions and lots more

[full jay]

meant the guide for expidition/goldenfrontier by monteshttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1301259004407971840/1394356819379359755/EXPEDITION_GUIDE.jpg?ex=687bc97b&is=687a77fb&hm=5f1b36aa818b5089d53d1d8c87209df2132aaa529331d409a4f701412ba124d4&

[obtuse rain]

This game is so fked, when i started there was no button or suggestion as guide for future or something like that, and after playing hardly and getting in the best guild on server, finally starting to understand this game all i get as pieces of advice are "you're doomed" "restart lol" etc. so shit game its crazy

[full jay]

i mean you can continue and focus on the meta heroes in the tierlist?

[tiny saffron]

i mean if you like your friends and guild in that server you can continue that as long as youre ready to be behind for quitee a while

[full jay]

i mean the problem that is - that being a competitive f2p takes prior knowledge

espacially in games that have p2w features where you have to compare in some gamemodes with folks that do spend on the game

and if you're not following the guides/meta correctly you'll fall behind quite fast and you'll lose out on so much rewards from dream and arena every couple of days/end of week

so being behind does not only mean that you're behind, it means you'll keep falling behind further if people don't quit the game

[chilly falcon]

by stargazing you have higher chance of getting a hero than the red chests lmao

what should I do to get at least one red chest that i need for a +30

[full jay]

welp either stargaze

or wait until next week for store/arena store reset

[chilly falcon]

5 more days with no progress at all i guess

[thin rampart]

[chilly falcon]

i cant even buy 10 chests with money

[full jay]

idk my f2p is able to buy every emblem on every week

[chilly falcon]

i do it too

but i need 1 emblem for a +30

[full jay]

ahh you mean like a small red emblem package

[thin rampart]

I feel

[full jay]

yea no there is only this or buying stargazers from monthly card / perk store

[thin rampart]

my only option is waiting like 2-3 more weeks for arena shop

[chilly falcon]

i aint spending $50 on this game lmao

at least not in companions

also for some reason i didnt get the weekly scroll deal this week...

i got new pet summon deal..

[full jay]

aside from that i guess you could spent on battle pass ig has also star gazers and better value

[chilly falcon]

which?

[full jay]

yea the new pet summon deal with wish leafs bricked the code

[chilly falcon]

no reds here

[full jay]

dream odyssey usally is best value since of t he 60 levels

21sg cards = some reds

but you'd also have to level it so rough

[chilly falcon]

im kinda short on cards fosho but still

[full jay]

yea atm there is only like talene/lucretia or waiting game

if you're not big kraken gaming

[chilly falcon]

nah no such thing

[full jay]

they skipped alna fyi

[chilly falcon]

im willing to spend 10 cards

might even get my mortas copy for mythic

[full jay]

they did alna voyage and had celestial release timer but skipped it

[chilly falcon]

knowing lilith she will probably need 5* to be usable

[full jay]

for her 10s immunity for sure

tbf we dont need to deal with engraving/furniture for that part on normal heroes which is kinda nice

but pulling stargazers to a5 is a roughy in here

[chilly falcon]

true but it costs so much to get that upgrade it feels way worse

[full jay]

yea its nostalgia rode atm - not that much powercreep stuff to spent on so kinda nice

[thin rampart]

Is a5 talene a big difference from mythic si20 talene ?

[chilly falcon]

ah yes took only 4 cards

[full jay]

like the worst powercreep thing is the new p2w wishleaf pet that solos stuff

[full jay]

very nice

[thin rampart]

I focused talene early and stopped at mythic and then focused on mehira

[full jay]

in terms of base stats - yea

in terms of pvp - yea

in terms of dream realm/guild hunt - yea

in terms of campaign/forked fate - probably not

[thin rampart]

should I keep going for mehira or talene

[thin rampart]

hmm

[full jay]

mehira is a roughy because she kinda needs her +30 and sometimes struggles for me even as a5 - but she kinda did her job well before like 90 level diff

[thin rampart]

si30 mehira is insane

170 days and I've only had 2 hero's at SI30 and trish at SI29

[full jay]

yea but 88 level diff is rough

and y0m / Berkiel is at 102-107 lvl diff

[full jay]

yea its rough getting si mats on f2p

my s157 is going through that

[thin rampart]

f2p struggle

how much money have you spent on your main ? and can I see ur inv

like fullon flex on me

[full jay]

should be at 7.8k - 7.9k

800$ were a bit hasty wasted on that stupid pet

most of it were kinda eaten by star gazers

like stargazers will eat your soul away - stay away from them

[terse ginkgo]

You have only 5 more T1s than me 🤣

[thin rampart]

That's actually insane

[terse ginkgo]

But around 15 nore Si30s lol

[full jay]

Yea I did not focus on summong at all - I used a lot of stuff on emblem value deals

[thin rampart]

How long have you been playing holyy

[full jay]

every +20 is +21

[thin rampart]

im f2p can you tell 🥸

[full jay]

and I t hink I can barely compare with my arena top5

[full jay]

tbf if you did not automate i applaud you for struggling through that heart grind - i could never

like i rather work a few hours and take my pay and then spent a bit of it on the game than to grind manually through tidious tasks for small progress

and i might have a couple more in the queue after scarlett release

im stacking for scarlett

[full jay]

186 days

[deft warren]

kinda stuck on chapter 10? any suggestions for team comps or strats

[tiny saffron]

full wilders trish, duo whale, join top guild, levels, minigames

[tiny saffron]

if thats s43 thats so bad

[tiny saffron]

duo heroes?

oden
mira
neva/tasi
mishka
lyca

[deft warren]

ty

[deft warren]

so this?

[thin rampart]

I joined super late

[tiny saffron]

[tiny saffron]

yah just try?

[deft warren]

maybe i just need to wait for afk rewards to give me better gear

[tiny saffron]

gear is insignificant in that stage

[deft warren]

what matters most at my level?

[tiny saffron]

ascension and level

[deft warren]

I barely got anything that can help me if that’s the case

[full jay]

after upgrading ira (wilder fodder) you could asap upgrade since she can bruteforce through almost everything

espacially after reaching +20 (SI - required mythic ascension) and divinity

[high kestrel]

5 comp and not enough heroes for that

[full jay]

you could look at formations and see wheather you find something fitting - team 5 should be really underleveld

but 56 level diff at that point is pretty good

[deft warren]

so i should save copies to immediately upgrade to legendary+?

[full jay]

you can use seirus f.e. as fodder since he is literally useless

usally you want to wait until having 4x e+ copies but in some cases where you know that a hero is really strong or that you bruteforce the hero through summons anyways

(f.e. if you have like rebirth and had ascended heroes - you know for a fact to 100% which hero with you could ascend - with the 50 free epic copies from log in/arena and such)

i used some fodder heroes on l+ as carries aswell early on on my f2p like saveas

(mauler with a spear)

[deft warren]

tell me abt it… i stopped using him during team comps bc he kept dying 2 seconds in. only reason i ever used him was for the standard comp: Tank, dps, 3 supp

[full jay]

seems doable

[full jay]

try to go -1 hero on some comps and fill them in with a celestial or hypogean as filler

damn im tired xd

1st core - trishea, lyca, brutus (+2, try to get faction bonus / maybe oku)
2nd core - mishka, nevanthi, aSolise, eironn (maybe +1 pippa/oku)
3rd core - aBrutus, skregg, crassio, salaki (+1 athalia/thesku/skriath)
4th core - laios, grezhul, marcielle, silas, daimon
5th core - estrilda, rowan, gwyneth, rosaline (+1 probably sonja)

if possible you want better tanks for 4th core like mythic/asc talene

if possible you want for 5th core an asc hendrik instead of rowan from a mate and an asc numisu instead of sonja

@high kestrel like i think you have more than enough if you just swap the comps arround accordingly and sometimes swap a hero or two inbetween these core comps

[high kestrel]

Thanks i will try your advice

[lapis terrace]

is Belinda and Rowan worth to invest? I can legendary+ one of them rn

plus, I hoarded all my 35k diamonds until now. anything good enough to spend on?

[tiny saffron]

elite and legend+ doesnt have difference, if youve read guides you'd know it's not good to upgade before 4-8 copies

[lapis terrace]

I have just enough to leg+. So the best would be wait for another 2?

[high kestrel]

What the best choice for this event?

[dusky blade]

It depends on what you need

[high kestrel]

@full jay

[karmic cape]

hi, when does the wishlist unlock? is it after an x amount of pulls or after a certain stage?

[tiny saffron]

60 pulls

[tiny saffron]

yes

[calm path]

Is worth to take Trishea? I'm not main wilder main, but i need 2 copy of Trishea to ascend

[tiny saffron]

no, emblems/red/t2

[sly vortex]

Not stargazers? Red chests and t2 more important? (Also trying to decide what to get)

[tired python]

Where can I get those scrolls?

[tiny saffron]

nowhere

[tiny saffron]

you need 60 sg for 1 copy of a hero. 2 sg costs 20 in this event.
While emblems, say gold costs 15.

sg:
60/2= 30 exchanges
so 30x20= 600 points for 60 sg/1 copy of a hero

Gold emblem costs 15 per 20
600 points/15 = 40
40x20 = 800 gold emblems (which is enough to +20 three heroes with 140 excess.

decide for yourself.

tldr:
1 hero copy (through sg) = 800 gold emblems

[calm path]

Sure, all in emblem

[tiny saffron]

i just used emblem as an example of how bad sg price is, reds and t2 are still great value

[calm path]

Reds we can buy it on Guild shop, right? Or its red emblem?

[tiny saffron]

red chest for emblem

[ashen cove]

Do you guys think it is worth to t2 Mishka over Trish? I don't have her faction weapon sadly

[tiny saffron]

if its weapon, no

[ashen cove]

@tiny saffron i have faction weap for mish do you think I should go for it?

[solid wadi]

T1 item have champion lock? XD

[ashen cove]

@solid wadi No, it means It can upgrade the weapon to t2 whenever wanted, but as for me I am skeptical as I don't have f weap for Trish

[tiny saffron]

i mean, it seems you really want to, so why not personally i would save as he's not a major dps, he doesn't need a weapon

[ashen cove]

@tiny saffron oh no smh

[tiny saffron]

she*

[ashen cove]

@tiny saffron Alr I guess, imma save the stones for now.

[tiny saffron]

theres also a collab in a week so if you didnt know

[half egret]

hopefully i can get some copies 🙏

but i wonder who to get, jinwoo or cha

[full jay]

put tasi frontline, put daimon backline

use rsoaline instead of pippa

make rosaline follow daimon

[high kestrel]

Well done i change lyca with pippa and gwyen + rowan with lucius and estirda. Put gwyen lyca and rowan in comp 5

[full jay]

Updated my doc, didn't update special offer tiers yet since I haven't bought them so far

eventho I've like 35k mithril laying arround - i kinda wanted that for the dims

have to think about that one but feel free to crosscheck my math:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yzQWOwfKH8uRK9NkQKUWf99WgXPlXiWJiCC2psw-wcc/edit?gid=1455742826#gid=1455742826

@rich cape specially you

@thorn holly doc is done

mb

[rich cape]

1 single copy of any hero is mathematically worth 74145 Diamonds 👀 but that's way to much for me to put that tag on it so I went with 26550 (faction value)

[full jay]

am wrong some numbers are not right yet red emblems are 50 sigils

[steel haven]

Go ascend grezhul? Or Mira? Mira is higher in the tier list, but without tank, I'm afraid she'd die before doing much damage. Or would resetting Shemira be an option? Teach me suhu 🙏

[full jay]

copy pasted the old table have t o go through the numbers one more time

[rich cape]

like if you do normal pulls and have for example trishea on your wishlist, every trishea copy you pull is worth 74.145 dias on average, 26.550 if you pull for her in faction scrolls, you can't really put 9k dias on normal heroes because we can't pull for them like for cele/hypos

she is still not worth it in that event to exchange for tho, I would delete the Diamonds value on heroes from that sheet overall

[full jay]

ig so - fixed the error on the red emblems no more errors in the sheet if i see it correct

[full jay]

it'd be weird to put them at no value without that explanation tho for f2p

harder for them to get them to see that its "bait" that they shouldn't focus on

[tiny saffron]

grez is trash, mira can frontline to die and activate her ult, shes much better overall, cc is her most important skill not dmg. Resetting shem isn't. And you almost have enough fodder to ascend two anyways

[steel haven]

I was following beginner guide by Luceus posted in March. Grezhul was there in the wish list, and I happen to keep pulling him until I'm one copy away to 5* him lol. Ok then, I'll go with mira for now. Thanks!

By the way, should I then stop ascending grez and shift to like daimon or silas next?

[tiny saffron]

mira will shine at 3 star, you can make her mythic for now and ascend grez. He's not that useless esp youre close to max him, he can probably tank for 3 secs

[steel haven]

Okay! Thanks again!

[sly vortex]

Grez has been plenty useful to me, so I don't think it's a waste! Even if he isn't the top priority he has uses

[rich cape]

https://www.reddit.com/r/AFKArenaCompanions/comments/1m3xwl4/dream_realm_guide_burning_brute_ver2_sailus_light/
New Burning Brute guide, feel free to check it out

[tired plover]

how can i even get lots of stuff there? I can only get 25 badges / Day

[tired plover]

what is burning brute

[umbral sorrel]

f2p for events like this means limited options, 1 or 2 big items, or a handful of the smaller ones, you're not going to be getting the vast vast vast majority of them, which is fine as a lot aren't that helpful anyway/are overpriced relative to others

[umbral sorrel]

A dream realm boss, in the dark forest tab

[tired plover]

ahh, do you know what i should get then from the event?

trishea or stargaze or wha

[full jay]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yzQWOwfKH8uRK9NkQKUWf99WgXPlXiWJiCC2psw-wcc/edit?gid=1455742826#gid=1455742826 here is the value cheat sheet decide for yourself

on your new acc probably purple/silver emblems (caleld primordial emblems)

[void mango]

@full jay I was wondering if you could also suggest some heroes for my teams that would be good investments for T2 stones?

[full jay]

sure just send ur box

[full jay]

oops will ping u to notice

[full jay]

Lost Sigils vs. Magicians Hat (F2P comparison)

You get ~3,27x more currency to spent.
But even the best offer deal costs already ~3,35x more.

So you have inflated results.

f.e. comparing emblem buy
Magicians was 10x Primordial Emblems (Purple/Silvers) and 7x Amplifying Emblems (Golds)
while Lost Sigils gives you 10x Primordial Emblems (Purple/Silvers) and 4x Amplifying Emblems (Golds)

Sure you can buy more Purples/Silvers this time, but unless you need them kinda nieche.

If you're advance spent on a T2 Stone chest
If you're early in the game spent it on purples/silvers and gold emblems.

[void mango]

Haha thank you 🙌 I'm at a loss for who would benefit the most from T2s. My Trish already has a T2 and a T1, and a few others have T1s

[full jay]

T2 Weapon prio for you would be:

aSolise > Marcielle > Audrae > Mira > Scarlett (after her +30) > aTalene > Talene > Lucretia > aBrutus > Gwyneth (im not a fan of her - she struggles a bit in my region overall)

[full jay]

Mage weapons give imo the best boost
followed by agility weapons
followed by strength weapons

if you think that some specific characters performs way above or is needed for you for a certain mode f.e. pushing campaign with a Lucretia teamcomp you can prio it on your own higher

but that should be generally plenty to build already

Gwyneth is also an option but she is really really bad in servers with shalltear so after aBrutus you could also consider Gwyneth weapon

if you want to consider defensive equipment

for mages/agility as 2nd boots are great for dodge
for strength as 2nd = plate gives a lot % physical resist aswell as hp and even a small ammount of %atk - but honestly as long as you have weapons to t2 - not that worth

[void mango]

I've been using comps with Audrae or Mira more than aSolise lately, is it still worth investing in her first?

[full jay]

that is ch44-20

we kinda still see aSolise in every solution

you can priotize mira/audrae higher because they have a lot of usage

but aSolise is also very necessary for zero-limit and pretty good for pvp, espacially when its this weird cross-server pvp at low level (lvl 240 i believe)

if you think audrae and mira are prios for you - you can skip on aSolise as long as you wish for

i believe tran 1 audrae is great

and for sure you kinda always use mira for every kind of solution aside from single stages inbetween

so you can do that - but aSolise has so much utility and if they might unlock her full kit sooner or later she might get even stronger

[late phoenix]

This is s161?

God dayum

[full jay]

plenty of folks are huge in that area yea - bune is also plenty big but not as big ^^

idk what people will have on s200 in a month or two

[full jay]

thats s159

but s² is really huge^^

[void mango]

That's good to know, our regional arena starts next week I think. I was considering building the other heroes to have something a bit different in arena but if aSolise is solid in so many other gameplay options, it sounds like she's pretty necessary

Do you think it would be worth holding out on upgrading anything until the collab comes out, just to see if the new heroes are OP?

[full jay]

For sure - like holding 11d more or less doesn't changes that much in terms of progression, espacially if you have t2 trishea

idk how much t2s you're going for but if you gonna take all 4 from the events - because they're atm event only

then you can keep atleast 2 and use the other two already

[full jay]

for arena if you build or havesome kind of pseudo stall with the new pet (I know you guys unfortunately don't have shalltear) - it will be broken

will probably look something like

Thoran, Talene, Tasi, Flora, Salaki with your current heroes

otherwise I can recommend some kind of 5pull with a bit of stall

like

Thoran, Talene, Skriath, Eironn, Flora

(as first or last comp - with the celestwing pet - it'll eat lots of enemy attacking teams )

[void mango]

I honestly was going to go for all four of them because they're such a pain to get 🙈 Trish has one T2 so far (and so does aSolise), so I could throw one-two more on her or one-two of them on aSolise and keep the other two in case the new collabs are worth it

[void mango]

My new pet is only M because the cost requirement for getting it up to A5 seemed ridiculous 🙈

[full jay]

completly okay as a whale - I'll see how much I'll end up on - imma try to calcualte the x5 road to glory rewards/milestones a bit

[shell nest]

ianne ?

😂 what supposed to aim for here

[void mango]

I'll keep an eye out for your calculations haha

[full jay]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yzQWOwfKH8uRK9NkQKUWf99WgXPlXiWJiCC2psw-wcc/edit?gid=1455742826#gid=1455742826

prob t2 and silver/gold emblems if at all try to do
3x 3-2/2-3 attacks with both different needed factions then you'll have daily 15/15 of each sigil

[shell nest]

what is T2 ?

[shell nest]

oh u havent unlocked this yet

[shell nest]

im stuck ch22 lol

im far from this i think lol

T2 hard to get ?

[full jay]

then purple > gold emblems

[full jay]

yes event only- they're sometimes locked for early servers they become unlocked after a server has a certain age - but only appear in those types of events

[shell nest]

i thought gold would be > silver emblem lol

Im stuck on ch22 for about 2 weeks lol 😂

[full jay]

purple/silver has better value

if you need more golds you can priotize golds - but they're less value in diamonds

[shell nest]

ok i see

i buy them all in shop except arena shop i buy stargazer

[full jay]

its different for each event and needs to be recalculated - so focus on your needs

thats why they're listed with their values

because some people might not need purples at all

the biggest whale tank had like 10.000 purple/silver emblems in inventory and was mad tha that he couldnt exchange him - because he bought almost everything

[shell nest]

crazy

he spent a lot ?

[full jay]

yea he was close before unlocking Transcension 4 heroes

but he quit after some exploit was public - it got fixed, but the people using that exploit weren't punished

++ probably also a bit bored from the harsh leveling and roadblocks later on and no one being able to keep up with him

like he was really hungry for more pvp stuff but everyone just ignored him in his area and they didnt release pvp stuff aside from expidition

[shell nest]

oh

i saw classic server just dropped , my time has come to play try it lol

hope playing both version isnt overwhelming

[full jay]

classic is harder to understand, but lots of stuff to do

[shell nest]

im like lost on companion

so that wont chnage anything lol

classic have no autobattle this is very bad 😦

[full jay]

later on unlocked

idk when

[shell nest]

u have tips ? for fast progression

[full jay]

no im lost on classic, needs an phd

the only tip i can say focus on graveborns

[shell nest]

???

what its this hard ??

how

[tiny saffron]

You have to manually grind everything 😭

For a while

Towers labyrinth campaign etc

Atleast theres alot of content so you wont really get "stuck"

[tired plover]

is alrdy known what comes after orden?

[stable sparrow]

what is your team with the pet ?

[full jay]

celestwing the new pet you get from "wishes"

(highborn/woke pet) - really expensive to upgrade

[stable sparrow]

okay the basic

just whale stuff

[full jay]

you can have it on mythic as f2p in a good expidition/golden frontier league already

so i wouldnt say so - some people are copying me with asc0 pet and starting to beat my 1st team after quite a few retries

like copying comp/positioning 1 to 1 - which i can understand because welp shalltear/talene with that pet is bs

and with flora would be even more bs

[stable sparrow]

xd i'm top 1 league didn't miss 1 stuff i'm on pitty since day 1

i'm 4 off for mythic

hate this luck

[full jay]

can you give you the advice to search for 2x golds 1x silver folks in your league or 3golds

3 golds = 2 leafs
2 golds + 1 silver = 1 leaf

aswell as resetting or even stealing caravans
while also just taking all the expedition freebees that you can

might've been exxagerated - but my f2p is also on 5 and that is in a really bad league that wasn't able to do all that

[stable sparrow]

nah i'm good in term of reward just getting every time no luck and getting last pull for it

[static tulip]

Stuck at hero lv 281 spread exp or focus one hero

[tiny saffron]

focus

dps

[fading meadow]

Hey guys, I have a few questions:

• what do I need to prioritize for the event? I only have T1 weapon for trishea, so def T2 for her, if I need more T1 weapons, who for?
• Also is it 420 total emblems?
• not related to the event, what SI upgrades should I do next?

[tiny saffron]

1. emblems, T2 for trish. And dont get t1 here, get those in guild shop
2. 360
3. in order---- +20: solise, rosa/rowan
   +10: Mira, sonja

[fading meadow]

Amazing thanks

[cedar hare]

I got elijah and lailah from stargazing what unit should I go for now

[full jay]

https://www.reddit.com/r/AFKArenaCompanions/comments/1m3vdts/iperxs_afk_areana_cheat_sheet_the_lost_sigils/

[full jay]

mortas

[cedar hare]

well I got lucky before and also got him

[full jay]

then its talene or wait

you unlock mehira on epic automatically at ch19-ish

you could also argue for lucretia - but she needs more investment to be good

wait == stacking up on stargazers and waiting on an impactful release - which might take couple of months - but without spending you get rarely stargazers - so thats the current best bets.

[cedar hare]

ok

I will save them

[full jay]

one hero needs 24x copies to ascend on 5*

24x 50 sg (on avg because 2% odds = 50 tries)
are 1200 copies needed to max out one unit

waiting also has the nice part that you could be very lucky on a specific hypogean/celestial unit that is nieche or good and you end up with it at legendary or legendary+ for free

so you'd need way less copies to max out

because the daily atleast 10x normal summons do give you some hypogeans/celestials fro mtime to time as you're aware

[cedar hare]

24 💀

will I guess if I am lucky it will take months 😂

but still it’s better to save than waste

[full jay]

yep thats why plenty people are waiting because as you see it takes quite a while

[cedar hare]

thx for the advice 🫡

[shell nest]

Ianne

How much diamonds or special scroll for collab event

[rich cape]

1300 Scrolls / 370k Diamonds if you want both hero maxed out

[shell nest]

WHAT THE FUCK

[shell nest]

Did u said 370 k ? 😭

[rich cape]

yeah 370.000 diamonds

[shell nest]

how

[rich cape]

but that's for x2 5 star, you won't get it anyway if you are f2p (unless you have an old account and much stuff stacked)

[shell nest]

No im server 197 i think

22 days old

Both of the heroes are worth it?

[tiny saffron]

its not even released yet gurl

[tiny saffron]

[shell nest]

How long have you been saving

[shell nest]

No leaks ?

[rich cape]

800 scrolls is rough, when did you even open DS last time

[rich cape]

no the earliest leaks will be probably 1/2 days before they release

[tiny saffron]

i didnt build dungeons (#1 marcille hater)

[rich cape]

[tiny saffron]

the only info is solo leveling

[rich cape]

that's gonna cost you a lot when we get regional DR

[tiny saffron]

eeww who cares about that

[shell nest]

I wish i had old collab

Hope they will comeback

[tiny saffron]

• i can beat dim users in arena as f2p, consistent top 30 and now im able to do top 10 with just shall dim

[tiny saffron]

no

[shell nest]

🥲

[rich cape]

yeah Marcille isn't "that good" in pvp but in DR she is used every round and has x2 ~10B rounds

[rich cape]

if you don' then it's all good, just saying

[tiny saffron]

yahh i get what you mean

[late phoenix]

Holy shit

[rich cape]

you can get x2 wish leafs from 2 gold and 1 silver rally in Honor Spotlight

doesn't need to be x3 gold

but from my small (~500 pull) research you can't get x2 wish leafs from only 2 gold medals, max is 1 wish leaf there

[quasi iron]

Do we know who is after Odin?

[shrewd marlin]

how do i get shalltear?

[late phoenix]

New collab

[quasi iron]

What's that mean?

[median basalt]

There is a collab with solo leveling so solo leveling characters are coming

Should i target tarisha in lost sigils to get a5?

[umbral sorrel]

can't

[shrewd marlin]

should i just save for the new collab?

[umbral sorrel]

yeah, it's soon too

[deft warren]

did this earlier, actually had some leftover wilder legendary+ fodder

[shrewd marlin]

👍

[tiny saffron]

as a classic player I enjoy companions too!

am I right @calm bobcat

[tiny saffron]

no

[median basalt]

Why

[tiny saffron]

very expensive

[median basalt]

Then what should i target

T1 boxes?

[umbral sorrel]

no get those from guild store, emblems or t2

[median basalt]

It is either them or emblems

[umbral sorrel]

? get T2 box or all emblems

[full jay]

very nice shes atm one of the best units in the game

[fading meadow]

Thanks

[wraith tide]

Does anyone know what’s the cultivated settlement looks like? I tried with the city I. But it doesn’t count for Prince quest.

[full jay]

? settle is like taking a pathtile and pressing on a button named settle

it increases dmg against bosses arround the area by 5% for you

like it must be a path - not a city nor anything else

[wraith tide]

So I have to connect them right?

[full jay]

oh no - that one means that you need 5x t5s with heroes placed in them

like t5, t6, t7, t8

and on t5 you need like legendary/mythic or higher i believe?

on t6 you need asc/faction

on t7 you need a specific hero

on t8 a specific hero aswell

[wraith tide]

Oh ok now it makes sense. Thank you for your advice

[shell nest]

ianne

23-36 i don’t have t1 t2 in the event

when will i unlock ?

[half flame]

Are there gift codes released recently?

[lean trail]

should i be pulling for this or just keep saving?

[half flame]

Twins or Audrae?

[nimble ore]

Neither, pull for a5 talene or save after you get one copy of mortas and the twins

[nimble ore]

There may be a new ascendant pet each expedition we don't know. You aren't going to be able to max the pet so saving isn't a bad idea but up to you

[nimble ore]

If f2p the emblems are probably more useful

[nimble ore]

None

[quasi iron]

When so you unlock dimensional heroes?

Do*

[full jay]

you dont - they release in 10d

you have to pull them from divine scrolls

[quasi iron]

Oh fun-

I've also seen some people on my server (server day7) already have dims

[full jay]

then you're playing on an old server which you shouldn't

or you're playing on classic - but i cant help ya with it if its that way

[quasi iron]

No,
I made sure it was the newest server (I joined when the server had only been live for a few hours).

[full jay]

they can't have dimensionals on these servers

[quasi iron]

Im not sure then

Someone has Marcille

[full jay]

they release on specific times and are unavailable to get afterwards

in the past 7d there was no magicians hat to get arthur

overlord collab is over (so no ainz, albedo, shalltear)

delioush in dungeon collab is over (so no marcielle/laios)

[full jay]

in lost sigils event you fight against enemeis across all servers/regions

that is not based on your server if an enemy had it.

(in that event)

[quasi iron]

Nope not there

[tiny saffron]

formation tabs are all servers

[quasi iron]

These two are the only people who have him.

[tiny saffron]

save

[quasi iron]

Really? I thought it was just your own server for it. I've never seen someone outside my server in it

[tiny saffron]

those with marcille arent in ur server no?

[tiny saffron]

idk we already have ours in s180, maybe next event

[quasi iron]

Oh yeah- nvm

[slow jasper]

Are there any valid codes?

[storm wadi]

Anasta or salaki who is better?

[tiny saffron]

try these

[tiny saffron]

salaki

[glacial crag]

hey im just starting out on companions and havent played afk in a while, whats the best wishlist rn??

[full jay]

look in the pins use mainly this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AFKArenaCompanions/comments/1lmirc0/guide_finder_sailus_shodee_light/

[glacial crag]

appreciate it

[late phoenix]

Damn it’s been a while since they gave us a new code

[quasi iron]

I pulled a Lucretia from the scrolls I got from the codes

Not bad

[shell nest]

wilder heroes i can use as fodder ?

[tepid holly]

Don’t use characters as fodder only use the blue ones

[tiny saffron]

gorvo, seirus, nemora, respen

[shell nest]

ty

[coarse ledge]

This voyage is a joke? Lol. Like they acting they dont know we need exp not gold/dust

[molten sapphire]

I did an upsi at the start and went for hendrik kinda is he worth it or does i just use him as fooder im F2P

[tiny saffron]

its fine, gwyn+rosa+hendrick is a great trio most of the time

also in case you havent read guides, pls do as that before you make more mistakes, those upgrades are bad

[molten sapphire]

@tiny saffron okay thank you, you got good guides for me to read about companion only?

[tiny saffron]

its pinned here, guide finder reddit

[molten sapphire]

Tyvm

[silver prairie]

.

[steep patrol]

How often does the visiting merchant pop up in store?

[tiny saffron]

wats that

[tiny saffron]

hi lelouch

[steep patrol]

It was the one with mishka as the bundle deal

[tiny saffron]

why does it say all the gift codes are expired

[nimble ore]

They are time sensitive

[tiny saffron]

idk sis, spenders will know

[rich cape]

The mishka one is a starter deal pack, it's a once time thing.
There was a visiting merchant for Lucretia but the values were really bad.

[shell nest]

still no leaks about collab heroes kit ?

[buoyant field]

Hello everyone, I have a question, I played AFK arena a year or two ago and was on classic, a new game that I started on a companion with others, I found many more interesting and useful changes, but I was disappointed in the characters used and a couple of other mechanics that are missing, should their travels be transferred to companions or not?

[full jay]

Hell no, I do not want wokes, I do not want ghoulish gallery, I do not want engravings+80/+100, I do not want furniture 9F/36F, I do not want SI+50, I do not want pets +18

they should start with the arcane lab or legends challenger arena

we don't even have cele and hypo towers yet - so please keep classic at classic

divinity is nice - they only thing that we need is more ressources for now since we cannot level up, we cannot get SI quick and we cannot get SG cards as well

---

but maybe thats the grind, maybe thats what we enjoy all along - because welp maybe having everything maxed out is not what makes us happy- maybe we're enjoying the road to get there

[nimble ore]

Anyone have some input on good AbEx bossing teams for servers w/o dims?

[full jay]

well usally you do singles (solo attacks)

or at most tripples paired up (3x for either faction boost, or some good buffers like mortas and a stall hero for your dps hero)

so there is no "bossing teams"

you just use the best heroes that you have
be it a Shalltear, Trishea, Mira, Marcielle or w.e. you have to do good dmg

Daimon is a good base really hero f.e.

and then you have someting like Trishea Mortas Lucius

something like Shalltear Twins Albedo

something like Daimon, Grezhul, Hodgkin

[nimble ore]

Wait we are supposed to only do solo/trio hits? On classic you have your pathing heroes and full 5 man boss teams that can run the full challenge time.

Does it not matter here? Do teams just not survive regardless and we are making use of stamina vs dmg per specific run?

[full jay]

no, usally 3 man teams survive more than long enough - since we do not have multiple multiplying buffers that do matter like in classic

and welp single heroes like mira and shalltear can do upwards for 100mil solo

60mil early

[nimble ore]

Yeah Mira was doing well.

I had the best dmg with a Rosa Belinda team

[full jay]

think as soon as we get from the tank meta away and have more/different heroes other metas will come

but atm if you want to path fast you need tanks and atm guilds dont have special/small "celerity", "warrior" and "mage" squads for different bosses

aswell as specific people who only do the pathing

aslong as we dont have like a "real" regional abex with better rewards - this stuff wont happen

[nimble ore]

Yeah I basically figured as much as far as having specific pathing only members and boss only members.

I'd rather have true regional abex than month long expeditions imo

[full jay]

Yea atm lilith seems to focus mainly on the development and of exploration/golden frontier tho :/

Think thats why we dont have lab as well as other stuff, because its not really that important and they prob dont just want to copy a 1-to-1 singeplayer lab mode from classic and do not give ressource to adjust it

like ressources go into collabs and exploration as far as i can tell

[nimble ore]

So it's tank first in companions as well? It's fun going something else, for example I started support this time just for shits and giggles and currently am doing the best server wide. Then again it's only s178 and I dont think many people really think about what to lv first

[full jay]

idk with tanks and single attacks i was always highest score even on my f2p

[nimble ore]

Yes this is difficult. The company seems to want to go in a different direction, which is okay if the players support it. I think the majority of the player base isn't happy with the past few updates. Ascended pets for example....

Hopefully lab is added, I would even be happy with a 1 to 1 classic version. Just feels odd always sitting there, it should have been removed if they didn't want to add it.

[full jay]

like that was last abex

[nimble ore]

Thanks for the advice I'll give it a whirl.

Next abex I won't look crazy haha

[nimble ore]

Ngl that's pretty convincing. By far and large ahead of everyone

[full jay]

Yea I think abex strats aren't here. On my classic I was on the biggest abex guild for s3/s4 before I quit and even did strat docs for it and calculation in google doc sheets lmao

that looked something like this

we had some people trying out stuff seeing on what bosses new stuff works and had big usual meta teams

and then did smaller groups based on timezones so that the smaller teams can path/group together and help each other for tiles based on which time they play

aswell as other nerdy stuff - but to at that time it got kinda too nerdy, engravings got me frustrated and i wanted to focus on other stuff so thats what I did lol

[nimble ore]

Yeah this seems like alot. This is more than what I've ever seen! 3 full teams and small groups on top of it?

That spreadsheet seems like it could drive you a little insane, I'm assuming everything had to be manually entered.

[full jay]

Yea unfortunately there was only so little automation you can do the number formatting like colors and such were based on math and "automatically done"

but those values had to be cranked in either every 6, 12 or 24 hours idk how often we checked, but basically atleast twice a a bosskill so we had a number inbetween to see whether it'd effect only based on stamina spent or if it stays constant

summary looks f.e. like this

another person did this

[earnest sage]

What do i take as rewards in thé event sigils? Chap9

[full jay]

thats why I like the stuff sailus does, mathing out stuff and figuring out w.e. works is honestly nice

[full jay]

did a doc for that:

prob - primordial emblems
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yzQWOwfKH8uRK9NkQKUWf99WgXPlXiWJiCC2psw-wcc/edit?gid=1455742826#gid=1455742826

[earnest sage]

Your thé man

[nimble ore]

Tracking online activity for the event lol. Doing too much at that point

[nimble ore]

I need the reds but the purples are so tempting

If we could get all t2s for $21 it would be worth

[full jay]

unfortunately only one extra, lilith greeded with the p2w compared to magicians

in this one its more about smart spending and figuring the checkpoints out

[nimble ore]

Honestly I'd spend it if we could even get 3/4 but you need to spend to even get 2

[full jay]

atleast you can get 1 for free and some purples - which is what I'll do on my f2p

[nimble ore]

I still need tons of reds. Thinking a few purples and mostly focus reds

I have a few t2 still left

It'll be nice to have t2 as a consistent expedition shop reward but only one per month is kinda insane

[full jay]

taking reds will sooner or later be the choice

but if we're lucky later on value on reds gets better - so i just kinda flow with the water and take whatever is good

because atm everything needs purples aswell and then i still need golds and then i need reds

[nimble ore]

Yup yup, I would say 90 purple for 20 emblems is the best value there.

[late phoenix]

How much is it for two T2?

[full jay]

21$

welp only 6$ without the 5x pass

but the 5x pass is more worth than the 6$ for the 2nd t2

[late phoenix]

I’ll probably do the 6$ then

Saving my budget for the dims

[lapis terrace]

Should I evolve this Pirate guy? I have two epic+ copies already...

[tribal loom]

Focus on Trish/ lyca / Mishka

For jack Sparrow idk.

I would say you prefer to focus on daimon as undead. Mostly for early mid game

Grezhul is also good

[buoyant field]

Why are there so few characters in the companions, are they often included?

[tribal loom]

Do we have any information about the next Collab hero to come out ?

[lapis terrace]

Lyca? Really? She isn't surviving much/helping much as the others rn

when will she get good?

[tribal loom]

+30, speed passive. I guess. It's a good hero to have, it's recommended to +30 her early (after solise and co)

[tiny saffron]

its her passive haste boost at the start of the battle, shes basically a support, and dps at high stars. Also her sig item

[tiny saffron]

its solo leveling

[tiny saffron]

because its new

[shell nest]

Heyyyy

[shell nest]

ianna could u help me

kinda lost on new event

[tiny saffron]

what exactly

[shell nest]

like im lost idk what to do in this event

i upgrade only mage is it good ?

[tiny saffron]

up tank. Also why do you have 131k and still level 1 relic, you should uprade that asap

[shell nest]

IDK LOL

im lost , so tank and mage only ?

[quasi iron]

What prizes should we be getting from the lost sigils event?

[nimble sonnet]

I’m doing T2 stones

They’re event only atm and super rare

[tiny saffron]

tank only until the quests where you need to upgrade all

idk youre probably fked in that anyway

[nimble sonnet]

Last time they did AbEx on comp was hell

I was way too limited

I still wish they’d do s4

[tiny saffron]

we havent even gotten s3

finally 5 star after 172 days

[shell nest]

lmfaooo

boss main ? or little ones

[tiny saffron]

boss

[shell nest]

ty

[tepid holly]

Congrats

[tiny saffron]

ty

[tepid holly]

Your welcome

[cedar hare]

can I get mote of these other than the 6 daily attempts ?

without real money btw

[tiny saffron]

no

[nimble ore]

Congrats 👏

[nimble ore]

You should get the purple stones at your stage imo

[cedar hare]

I bought fodders for wylders

[tiny saffron]

[tiny saffron]

nay

[late phoenix]

Are we getting test server patch notes today?

[tiny saffron]

idk

[median basalt]

So still no new news?

[solid wadi]

marcille or abrutus +30?

[late phoenix]

I’d wait to see if the new dims have better +30s

But between those two I’d go with Marci

[clear loom]

How many ascended heroes do I need to get 5-star ASolise?

[stable sparrow]

8 5-star wilder

[clear loom]

So in my case using an elite hero as food wouldn't be such a crazy action, right? Ex: Pippa or Respen

[versed compass]

You will need them later anyway, i would advise a bit of patience

[tiny saffron]

in this case, you can use respen but youll need 3 more elite+ fodders. Pippa has some uses later so using her as fodders isnt rec

[clear loom]

As a F2P, would you consider it plausible to save copies to transcend? Or use them to level up other characters?

Since I already have 5-star Lyca and Uko, I feel that keeping the additional copies is inefficient.

[median basalt]

You will need them later in the game

5 star is not the max

[shell nest]

whale in my serv transcend horse is it good decision ?

[tiny saffron]

the thing is, you dont need fodders at all after early game if you play efficiently. Those fodders will just stack up without any use so i wouldn't sacrifice those copies. In wilders you can use respen, seirus, nemora, gorvon as fodder to rush solise

[tiny saffron]

why not, he probably got it the most. Besides, 5 star and trans 1 doesnt have difference in strength

[shell nest]

oh

ok ty

how many days until collab 😭 i cant wait so may diamond saved

[nimble sonnet]

Wukong and Flora before Athalia and Audrae is crazy

[shell nest]

He is a noob ?

[late phoenix]

Kinda

Wukong is shit

[tiny saffron]

6

[unreal plank]

60000T good defence

[nimble ore]

What da hell

[shell nest]

still no leaks ?

about his kit

[late phoenix]

Not yet

Probably around the weekend

[tiny saffron]

What do you prio to stargaze on companion servers?

[nimble sonnet]

no, he's just rich

[rich cape]

https://www.reddit.com/r/AFKArenaCompanions/comments/1m7dx7b/dream_realm_guide_arden_ver4_by_sailus_light/

New Arden Guide with that sneaky Walker-Comp, Data gathered pretty fast because I won't have time the next days but feel free to take a look.
If someone has Walker at Mythic or above and wants to DM me their R5 result please do so

[late phoenix]

No walker in bis???

Bullshit

[rich cape]

Belinda round with 10-12B is still better

but I didn't saw any Mythic or above walkers, maybe he will hit for over 10B with that

[full jay]

i mean damage amp multiplies differently a5 base stats and +20 stats will change stuff

but i wont build that fraud soon

[nimble ore]

I refuse to build him no matter the results

[lapis terrace]

any tips on how to deal with cecilia on story mode? she is just impossible to tank

[late phoenix]

Make her target characters with some sort of cheat death, like Brutus, Mira, Solise etc

[lapis terrace]

I think I only have Mira and Talene to cheat death

I'll try, thanks

[shell nest]

might be able to purchase T1 from event

im not far from 23-60

idk how much i could purchase tho haven't see the prices

worth buying all ? or better get some SI

[glad sapphire]

Did we get the patch notes?

[late phoenix]

Only T2 is worth it

T1 is better in guild shop

[shell nest]

oooh

can u T2 without t1 ?

[late phoenix]

No

[shell nest]

it hard to get T1 from guild ?

my guild doesnt have mythic gear yet

[late phoenix]

Pretty cheap tbh

[late phoenix]

Since it’s the main thing to buy there

[shell nest]

oh ok

so from now i save guild currency

for this

[late phoenix]

I think so tbh, not sure how far from unlocking it your guild is though

[shell nest]

Btw what guild level is required bc if it take months

same goes for mythic equipment maybe should purchase them idk

[sick charm]

I just started playing a new server, should i save all the gems for the next dimensional event?

[rustic summit]

Hell yeah

[nimble ore]

Guild lv 9 for T1 stones, which is different than the guild store lv you see there.

[nimble ore]

Next dim event is in a week, save if possible

[sick charm]

For real? What colaboration is

[nimble ore]

You can purchase a few mythics for your carries. Mythic gear can start dropping at ch 30/31. The T1 stones are 88k just fyi.

[nimble ore]

Solo leveling, Jin-woo and Cha

[nimble ore]

Guild lv 9 takes maybe month and a half for active guilds

[sick charm]

That sounds good, i hope jin-woo can 1vs5 like shalltear, thanks you

[nimble ore]

That's the hope. Any server where they are the first available dims will also make them more important on said servers

[nimble ore]

Buy purples/golds if you need them for SI. The purple stones are the only good deal imo. If f2p you can only get 1 of the T2 stone, so you can take one T2 and the rest purples or a mix of purple and gold

[shell nest]

im lacking of gold SI

[rich cape]

I'm pretty sure f2p's shouldn't focus on t2 stones, getting key heroes to si10/20 is more important than that 2% boost on 1 hero

[sick charm]

loud and wrong

[rich cape]

argument against my opinion?

[full jay]

its pretty much true SI% are 10x higher thats why ignored stones for the most part an all of my early whaling was almost only SI focused

[rich cape]

only mage weapons are worthy of t2 stones, to be completely honest (warrior t2 buff is just a joke and there aren't any agility heroes that need t2 weapons right now)

and the only "overall-hero" that need t2 weapon is Trishea, everything else is a bonus that you want to specialize your account on and you don't want to specialize your account that early on, on a F2P account...

[full jay]

SI +30 has arround 50-70% stat increase

+20 arround 33%- 45% and so on

[split dragon]

whats SI

[rich cape]

sure you can have a t2 chest sitting like ~3months in your bag but that's not the way to go

[full jay]

unlocked after mythic, pinned in the beginner guide

[rich cape]

yeah every x10 SI upgrade is huge and some heroes doesn't even work without specific SI level, check even I don't have SI20 or SI10 on all core heroes

after 260 days of playing and spending a bit

as a f2p, if you don't take the emblems from those events you won't be able to catch up on SI which is way more important than having a T2 weapon on 1 or 2 heroes

[full jay]

its like with T1 stats some minimal increases that yes, they are nice to have but damn they're expensive for what they provide

[rich cape]

that's is like 2 SI upgrades + some extra stats that you don't need as a f2p player

[full jay]

Yep mainly the reason why I wont contest the folks that have t2/t3 in my top of arena

Like some things are just too expensive and irrelevant to spent on

[rich cape]

like spending $800 day 1 on a new pet (sorry I had to)

[sick charm]

Your right queen, excuse me

[shell nest]

Hey

[nimble ore]

I agree with SaiLus for @shell nest 's account progression. I myself am only grabbing SI emblems.

I just said 1 T2 due to how rare they are. But with expedition now we will hopefully be getting one per month guaranteed plus any extra from events. I believe the hero needs to maxed otherwise or at least be A5* for a T2 to be used.

[nimble ore]

[rich cape]

oh I didn't said it on example for anyone's account, just general for F2P accounts.
'IF you spend then you can go for the stones because there are plenty of pretty okayish Emblem deals you will buy either way

[nimble ore]

Oh yes definitely. I wasn't even stating that the best option for them was the T2 stone just that is was an option. The price for purples makes them a fantastic pick up for any f2p, anyone in early/mid progression, or just anyone who notices they need a few more. The other prices for golds are good and reds okay.

[rich cape]

yeah also, @full jay did some calculations on the values you can get from the event, pretty useful to take a look at

[nimble ore]

Is that the doc that basically explains how the event is a cash grab?

(Worse than the others and not worth going over $21)

[shell nest]

ok…

[full jay]

Yes

but if you account to normal weekly merchant and others they're ofc even more of an cashgrab

Like its okay-ish if you spent up to 21$ and it gets worse for every $ you spent because they somehow messed up the spenders values compared to magicians hat.

Support said to it the following:

Could mean nothing but seemed better than a "we contacted you via dm about it"

[shell nest]

Can they allow us get previous collab heroes🥲