companions-chat

[gray harbor]

Whos the next cele/hypo ? Anyone know?

[timber cipher]

it'll be a cele since last hypo was lucretia

[slim ibex]

What's up with the arena? There are no more than 5 fights

[timber cipher]

but aside from that they gatekeep powerful hypo/celes - they skipped alna on alna voyage so yea

[timber cipher]

scroll right

[slim ibex]

Oh for real

[timber cipher]

"ui improvements"

@ebon sand did you notice that leveling feels different based on the ch you in

kinda hurt my finger and was unable to sleep - was finally able to beat it and beat 43-60 pretty fast

after i only bought once xp it felt like i got so much more - i know that because i leveld multiple times yesterday and used multiple xp chest

so it seems like your level/xp gain from the crystal is also based on the chapter you're in or atleast it feels that way to me

like i dont mean the xp gain for hero xp or the dust gain

i mean the yellow progressbar in the crystal itself for clarification

welp i feel tired af and my head hurts gn8 y'all i'll just lay down till i sleep

[ebon sand]

Congrats 🎉 on beating ch43!

I hope your finger's alright, good rest

As for your question I'm not sure I get it right I need to think about it

Can't say I've paid attention to that but to be sure, you're saying you gain more XP (as in the circular yellow bar) when using an instant XP bonus from your inventory?

[uneven cypress]

60k gems prepared for summons

definetly didnt hit the 30k gems jackpot on the star summon thingy

btw what hero should i choose here?

[ebon sand]

If so then that'd make sense if changing chapters makes you gain more idle XP, I can't even remember when I can see it

For celehypos summons, when you're debuting ppl often advise to secure one copy of: the twins and mortas then you go back to Talene or Lucretia is also an option

[uneven cypress]

who are they

[swift depot]

Vampire looking guy

[ebon sand]

Anyway, going to bed too

[uneven cypress]

gn gn

[grim yacht]

whats a meta hero for campaign?

?

[timber cipher]

trishea

@maiden hare the gwyneth comp lost that

tran1 +30 estrilda, tran1 +30 arthur, tran1 +30 rosaline, tran1 +30 gwyneth and a5 +20 numisu

vs 1 shalltear, 1 talene and 1 celestwing

[timber cipher]

that caravan is worth than the weekly merchant shop

[timid briar]

not looking that bad

8k diamond +30 chest +35 card

[timber cipher]

i mean you get for 50€/$ (mithril value)

35 Stargazers x 750 Diamond Value = 26.250
30 Emblem Choice Chest x 198 Diamond Value = 5.940
1 x Pact Scroll x 5000 Diamond Value = 5.000
and 3280 Diamonds = 3.280 Diamond Value

is 40.470

the 50$ wish leaf deal that isn't that great is 47.280 diamond value

and idk if the pact scroll is really worth 5k since we weren't able to use it so far

like collab deals will be far better - ik not the worst deal in terms of items

but in terms of % value it wont be that good

Lilith math somehow seems to be accurate - like their 3000% value deals are a baseline as a "good offer" what we deem to be net neutral with the climbers bundle / advancements rewards:

[timid briar]

yeah

they know math that at least something

[timber cipher]

Would be more pleasent if they use that math to increase some events rewards like the voyages of wonders - they are really weird in companions - but oh well

[ebon sand]

I rerolled for divine envoy I can't even get the deal in shells xD

[twin marsh]

How are the collab deals again?

[timber cipher]

if they're like last time they're really good

most deals are usally more often than not -150% or less compared to the climbers bundle

that pet is so degenerate in arena

i can only see that im attacked 100 times by people and it just wins

like maybe i should build Flora just to be a meanace in that comp

but for now I'll wait for next celestial release

[ebon sand]

I only beat one mono squad since beating 44-52, I feel dumb

nothing works

[timber cipher]

it feels like a

Talene
Shalltear
Albedo
+1 (probably aBrutus or Arthur?)
Marcielle

[ebon sand]

I've tried that, maybe not enough but nara and the horse dude fuck tings up in 5s

guess I might need an Rc lvl

[timber cipher]

Hmm maybe Mira on the Nara as cheese?

[ebon sand]

yeah I also tried

also trish facing nara

[timber cipher]

But i get that you're like lvl 390 vs 492 which is insane

[ebon sand]

as I said, nothing works

talene doesn't even help she gets insta killed at each revive doesn't even heal

[timber cipher]

like not at all or is there something outstanding that did atleast kill 1-2 units?

man desira dodge from the mist + healing seems to be troublesome

we dont really have a good way to hard cc treznor either

and if not for brutus i might've even said try

eironn, skriath and gwyneth pull/burst

but on that diff i rarely get it to work on my own diff

[ebon sand]

this one wasn't too bad of an attempt but the heals man

like wtf cpu silas, chill a lil bit

[timber cipher]

rough

cant burst brutus down

silas antiheals talene
desira provides annyoing dodge

nara and treznor are annoying disruptors

i mean not as worse as something like orhtros/flora/tasi/thane

but still not a nice stage to face at your level diff

I've gotten to 44-8

where I'm now underleveld

[ebon sand]

you're unstoppable!

do you see me and tank and astra btw? I don't even know if we're friends in game

[timber cipher]

Hopefully

I kinda want to catch up to zephyr and you - like racing zephyr was always my goal and now I kinda want to race up with you

[timber cipher]

Always - because there are not many solution at end of ch 43 and now start of ch 44

we're *two handful of people

like maybe 7-10 folks

[ebon sand]

I meant on the map, I need to invite you

I've applied to be your friend (lol)

[timber cipher]

did the same i had to look for your id

[ebon sand]

I just looked for iperx and it found you

[timber cipher]

maybe its case sensitive didnt found "berkiel"

[ebon sand]

probably the capital B then yes

I had to relog to see you on the map

got a server error

[timber cipher]

afk being afk

[ebon sand]

the game needs more "stability patches"

[timber cipher]

do you have aTalene already?

Im like 1 celestial off but i kinda dont feel like comitting onto flora

[ebon sand]

not yet I need one more

[timber cipher]

might be great with celestwing, talene, shalltear as stall

and really god for forked fate but im unsure because shes so mediocre

[ebon sand]

I need 4 twins to unlock ATalene

[timber cipher]

i feel like aTalene with skriath would go well

because of the passive crit thingy

and skraith sandstorm can crit all the time every second on 5 people

and it appies the burn from aTalene

every 2s good triggers

[ebon sand]

Idk ATalene's kit tbh, I haven't looked either, just heard she's more of a tank than talene but she's actually a caster type

I would have prefered a tank gear-wise ;/

[timber cipher]

shes kinda a tank and kinda a caster and kinda crit based heal utility

[ebon sand]

cuz with twins and flora it's 2 casters already, gimme a break

[timber cipher]

like with talene basically very all-arround-ish

idk i used her on kasus acc as caster with rowan

but i think you can multipurpose her

[ebon sand]

geeze I passed 44-54 while I was typing didn't have time to interrupt to check the result and replay -_-

[timber cipher]

glad you beat it tho!

[ebon sand]

that's what won it though

good ol' Thoran

[timber cipher]

damn treznor bait, silas antiheal and a bit of thoran/shall stall aswell as trish dps and anti-energy ball

did treznor charge on mira or trish?

[ebon sand]

and now I'm facing this

[ebon sand]

couldn't tell I saw nothing of the winning fight, shame we can't go back to look at the monosquads fights

[timber cipher]

that seems somehow more managable

like kaz dodge annoying but avoidable with marci/trish

and idk eironn side seems simple enough with like mira shall

[ebon sand]

but all the fights I watched treznor was charging downward I think

we'll see, it'll either be easy or a bitch of a stage

[timber cipher]

that seems good if he goes into mira

will remember it and try next time positioning to bait treznor if i have a mira left

not agaiiiiin

am a copycat atm

[ebon sand]

this one I was able to interrupt, easy peasy!!!

[timber cipher]

o damn aBrutus value

and finally your crassio+30 coming in clutch nice!

[ebon sand]

yeah my thoughts exactly !

[timber cipher]

i bursted orthros down with mira marci and athalia

[ebon sand]

GL on ur orthos fight btw

gz

[timber cipher]

wasnt fast enough to sceenshot it

was like o i have an athalia left - maybe worth a try

bx thoran was like mediocre

[ebon sand]

beat the least squad an I'll be able to screenshot for you if you can't

my athalia made some progress since I was early in the ch

not Si 30 but definitely useable now though

[timber cipher]

sometimes a very nice disrupter - sometimes kinda useless

like athalia is weird-ish i thought she'd be more tanky with all of her bonus defense in the kit

[ebon sand]

I guess rogue types just have a hard time staying alive

[timber cipher]

Yea, don't really get to use my a5 +20 ferael

thought he'd be more valueable aswell

we have like mages, tanks and supports

[ebon sand]

idk if zeph has him, probably but yeah he never uses him

[timber cipher]

f.e. even something like lyca is more of an utility buff support than a dps agility

[ebon sand]

yep

so 44-56, what are the odds I can win this just swapping teams around

probably 0 right

from previous multi squads, I mean

[timber cipher]

had an appointment and finished at 44-12

[timber cipher]

I mean really depends on the setups - some comps are broken enough to fiddle arround and good enough with faction advantage - but yea most likely you need to micro positions

wait athalia did almost nothing

but ig the disruption/cc was good enough

[ebon sand]

Yeah sometimes it's just the way it is

Moco is still pretty fun to me, I like this season better than the first they killed it at supercell with this game

And I open my news feed and the 1st article that pops is about Brawl Stars (another Supercell title) coming top of the chart with Roblox in a center for digital addictions

[ebon sand]

I hadn't looked at FF in a while, last time I did I was caught up but Zeph made some progress, time to shamelessly copy

[cold current]

Wonder when we're getting official confirmation. Probably about a week before, so like 23rd?

[ebon sand]

I though this replay was funny

(it's very short)

[timber cipher]

trishea goes pew

[ebon sand]

idk the super fast solise flying backward in circles at the end made me giggle for some reason

this fight was VS current n°2's last squad, he can easily take it back, I usually don't watch the fights really but gotta say the rewinding hypo dude is fire

[main leaf]

how many guild coins can you have until it reaches max ?

[weak blaze]

Yo @timber cipher is solise a5 a big difference to a2

[timber cipher]

depends def not something that takes high prio

in low ch42 i believe someone was using a2 aSolise

if you say like you need your solise to be better for zerolimit, pvp and dream realm/guild hunt - then I'd say for sure

if its just for campaign/tower/forked fate - then it wont be that big of a difference

not sure you could look at somebody in your level range be it arena (capped to martial rating)

or (king tower) t o find out about it

like in terms of combatrating

[weak blaze]

I just got her a5

From a2 to a5 in a month

[timber cipher]

oh thats nice

[weak blaze]

I was Kinda unlucky before

But she was able to keep up so i wasnt sure it would make a difference

[timber cipher]

i mean i found 2 people with a2 and a4 at same level on my servers kt

its not unnoticeable

[main leaf]

so close

Been playing for 170 days f2p only have gotten ainz and albedo si30 and trish 29

si30 as f2p is impossible 😭

[ebon sand]

Dang, I just come back from outside, it's way too hot

apparently it'll turn to shit tonight, can't wait tbh

I go back to work tomorrow of all days and I'd like to be able to sleep

[ebon sand]

ahhh, I was losing hope

[timber cipher]

damn thats big - on ff im kinda stuck at 43-24 for some reason

[ebon sand]

yeah well I noticed Zephyr progressed there, I hadn't looked in a hot minute so I'm copying away

but I'm two lvls behind the time he did that; not sure when so Idk if I'll catch up entirely

[timber cipher]

thats nice, idk how forkedfate takes a bit more patience it feels like

[ebon sand]

oh yeah, more than a bit

it's so hard to know what can work because if you get 10 bad runs in a row you can think a formation isn't suited for the stage when it actually is

[timber cipher]

Yea I did like 100 runs with the only formation people used for like 105-130m winning solutions

or well 10x10 runs

[ebon sand]

the deficit is high too 😒

[timber cipher]

107 and forkedfate (1-2 deaths) 💀

[ebon sand]

it's only 1 death :/

[timber cipher]

believe highdiff on classic with duras relics was considerd 120 early on - might've been with furniture already (but pre engravings)

like we have divinity and some really good heroes but damn

[ebon sand]

I doubt my a0 flora will suffice here lol

[timber cipher]

Do you have celestwing somewhat build (like a2ish?)

[ebon sand]

nope he's just M

[timber cipher]

Mhm tough he could be good for some solutions with like flora/shalltear/ + Talene/aTalene

[twin marsh]

Is this really bad value? Wanted to get as many scrolls as possible for the collab

[pine sable]

not rly worth no

[ebon sand]

Oh nice! I got the FF stage "easily" after switching to GB pet

[vapid lava]

If you want to buy just bc of collab it's okay

But yes it's obviously not the most cost effective

[ebon sand]

man I just learned that the guy that jumped in parachute in 2K12 from the stratosphere died today

[warm lagoon]

We won't get official confirmation until the 28th or 29th

@twin marsh what I would do is play classic and get them on their maxed out and just get them on companion free and gradually build them

Because on classic in 60 days you can get both of them completely free to play and if you have ascended five star heroes that's what they will be automatically once you get them from The exchange

[twin marsh]

Don’t play classic

[twin marsh]

Test server will come earlier than that

[warm lagoon]

No it won't

Normally the patch notes come out Wednesday / Thursday it all depends on where you live but when dimensionals come to the game they do not put the heroes on the patch notes on the test server Wednesday / Thursday they want them closer to the official server

[maiden hare]

Dims will be only 1-2 days early on test server, probably 1 day like with overlord and the other one

[twin marsh]

💔

Hopefully we get some leaks then

[timber cipher]

last leak wasn't as useful tho since we had no numbers and only saw the kits

tbf later on we had classic numbers iirc that were slightly adjusted - kasu was mad that the 50% bonus dmg from using the revive circle from marci was gone f.e.

[main leaf]

should I invest in shalltear when dimensionals come out ? or wait and see if the new hero's are better

( my shalltear is mythic si1 ) 😭

[timber cipher]

prob wait 1-3 days

but 99% sure that shalltear will keep being meta so atleast a3 +20

but prob a5 +20 is what you should aim for

[main leaf]

I'll aim for A5 if the new hero's aren't meta

Saving up emblems currently

I'm broke as a joke

70ish more gold emblems for si20

[magic tree]

My humble savings

[timber cipher]

plenty you're prepared for the dims and you're prepared for min. 16x cele/hypo copies

so if something good comes out you're pretty much good to go

are you waiting with the pet for next release before upgrading one?

celestwings first big breakthrough is a2 btw.

[twin marsh]

Dayum

[twin marsh]

I didn’t even know Marci had that in classic

[timber cipher]

wtf is that

44-18 is a menace

mb ig not

[broken glade]

[timber cipher]

naaaaaaaaaah we have another event to drain us before dim collab

@maiden hare do you calculate the values of the lost sigils tmrw?

Or should i do a cheat sheet kind of thingy again?

[molten quail]

$50 for one normal hero breh

[timber cipher]

these events were usally best for emblem in classic

but beside emblems t2 chests might be a pick since they're quite rare in here and boost your carries crit and penetration values

but like if you're not a whale im 99% sure its just stack up on emblems

[ebon sand]

Damn, Korean kraken has passed me at the wilder tower with the op pet

[timber cipher]

t3 stat increase and a5 pet

[ebon sand]

The funny thing is that he just used my formation from the previous floor and just slapped the pet on top of it

Sadly 447 is an Orthos floor so he'll have to think for himself

There's quite a lot of XP in that event, hard to pass

[lusty plank]

Lvl 200 finally

259 days

Idk why it was so slow compared to @swift depot

And other ppl in my region or even 10 servers ahead

Perhaps cause I neglected FF at the start

[swift depot]

Mayhaps

[lusty plank]

What’s ur lvl?

[covert remnant]

sup guys!

[lusty plank]

ello

[swift depot]

216

[ebon sand]

There's still hope

Next one is going to be ultra tough though, lvl 499 the 1st squad and 500 the other two

[maiden hare]

you can do it, I usually don't do calculations for those events

[maiden hare]

I feel like player level slowed a lot after lv200

[ebon sand]

Holy crap, I got it! Back to being caught up for now

[twin marsh]

Reds value looks solid in this, no?

[ebon sand]

Oh shit I'm even ahead of Zeph now!

[novel pebble]

[weak blaze]

@timber cipher Ping me once u have the Numbers 👺

[timber cipher]

Yee was re-painting our fence in the garden the past hours

If nobody does it'll start after eating while watching videos or something

[weak blaze]

Have fun 🫡

[timber cipher]

if someone went through the special offer deals free to send me screenshots for https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yzQWOwfKH8uRK9NkQKUWf99WgXPlXiWJiCC2psw-wcc/edit?gid=1455742826#gid=1455742826

@maiden hare

comparing both Magicians Hat / Lost Sigils

based on the silver emblem deal

event seems kinda like a bait to empty out our pockets pre dim-collab

like maybe thats lazy chatgpt comparison from me

but just to visualize @maiden hare

that is the comparison between both 1$ packs

in magicians hat and lost sigil

yes lost sigil also has glory and small/trashy glory rewards

but that is so bait

[twin marsh]

What are you going for?

[maiden hare]

huch?

The values are the same

you get 30 Sigilis a day

[maiden hare]

yeah $ values/packs are a lot worse here because of that stupid glory pass thing where you get rewards depending on how much $$$ you spend, but I'm pretty sure you weren't able to buy x4 30 elite emblems with 1$ purcharse in MH event

[maiden hare]

and yeah ofc the value per sigil is gonna be divided by 6 because we get x6 the amount

but the exchange ratio is the same as in MH

and I'm also pretty sure you weren't able to farm 300 tokens last time as f2p

in MH

because you weren't able to exchange on day1 and on last day

[timber cipher]

the price was 5 tokens for for 30 emblems

and you got 210 magic tickets

can only show you that screen that my math from day 1 adds up

that is without the other stuff from the 11 other days

[timber cipher]

yep and that glory pass seems pretty bad tbf - it doesnt seem good

[timber cipher]

you got to 110 token as f2p

110 tokens were worth more than 360 sigils by far

[maiden hare]

it's better for whales

[timber cipher]

not at all

that looks so trash

like on max you 2x 2hour xp

and 4 sg cards

like its worth getting all 4x t2 chests - but everything else is scam even for whales/krakens

my math may be wrong correct me then - but the exchange values are abyssmal

[maiden hare]

thought all of the events had pretty much the same exchange values but maybe they changed stuff

[timber cipher]

i mean if you got 4x 30 silver emblems for 1$ last time

and now you get nothing and a bit of glory towards a poopshoot of bad rewards - then i couldnt care less for that event

[maiden hare]

yeah that event is way worse then MH in $ value that's not my point

I was pretty sure you could get the same amount of emblems as f2p here and here

but I don't have the exact numbers to look it up

like buy all purple one and almost all gold ones

[timber cipher]

i mean you're able to buy 18x purple ones in that event in here

but you were able to max out 10x purple ones and had plenty left for other stuff

here you have a limit of 20

while in magicians hat you had a limit of 10

[maiden hare]

in MH you were able to buy x10 purple and x4 or something like that from the gold ones

then you had some leftovers left

because they weren't exact

[timber cipher]

10x purple = 50

110-50 = 60

60/8 = 7x gold

yea small left overs

you can get 18x purple

while you were able to get in mh

10x purple
7x gold

• leftovers

that is the direct comparison

[maiden hare]

x10 purple
x4 gold
10 leftover is what you get here so yeah we get less rewards overall, no need for math

[timber cipher]

[maiden hare]

you can't even get 18 purple here or? it's only 16,5 or do I miss one day

[timber cipher]

you get 30 emblems each day, event duration is usally 12 days + 2 days to cash in rewards without gain

12x30 360

and 360 sigils /20(sigil price for purples) = 18

[maiden hare]

BUUUT if we do math:
x18 purple = 540x48 = 25.920 Diamonds in LS
x10 purple + x7 gold = 300x48 + 140x78 = 14.400 + 10.920 = 25.320 Diamonds in MH

so we get more dias here

[timber cipher]

[maiden hare]

chatgpt scamming you

[timber cipher]

ig atleast that

welp i will maybe spent 1/5/10$ to catch the t2 stones

that about it

imma wait for the event rewards to be over - then I'll buy my t2

and then I'll look how much i need to add to end up with the next t2

and all the other stuff will be left for dim collab

like xp is so rare in that event and its not even 24 hour xp its 2 hour xp

Like its soooo garbage compared to everything else that we had so far

[maiden hare]

yeah I'm gonna go for emblems because I'm short for x2 si 20

[twin marsh]

Wait how many gold emblems can we get in total?

[timber cipher]

you have 360 sigils

[maiden hare]

240

[timber cipher]

cost is 30 sigils for golds

[twin marsh]

And reds?

[timber cipher]

12 x 20 golds

[maiden hare]

you get enough for 1 hero to get to si20 from si10

[maiden hare]

reds aren't worth in any of those events

[timber cipher]

8 x 10 reds

so 80 reds

240 golds

or 540 purples/silvers

[twin marsh]

I’ll probably do reds then

*Golds lmao

[maiden hare]

Reds are only for whales imo

[twin marsh]

I mean yeah, but it’s a tough comparison to make since we get silver/gold emblem way more often than reds outside of the shop

[maiden hare]

there are like 3 heroes that need si30 and a shit ton that needs si20 to even work

that is the comparison

[timber cipher]

yea but aslong as you need silvers I'd always go for silvers

[maiden hare]

after you get every key hero to si20 you can go for reds

[timber cipher]

like every necessary +10 do it

then every necessary +20 do it - it just maths out for heroes aswell

because SI gives so much strength in companions in %value

so much so that i +21'd every hero on my f2p and p2w

[twin marsh]

But I’m definitely going for golds, I’m missing quite a few +20

[timber cipher]

like every +20 = +21

[twin marsh]

And I only have like 440 golds for the collab, I got like 720 reds waiting

[timber cipher]

if you overall need for all of your heroes golds - get the golds

but go after the value, since yea you're only getting slowly and surely reds

but like no need to scam your self with less worth options just to speed that up

[twin marsh]

Sucks that reds are such bad value in these events, I remember them being really good value in classic

[timber cipher]

yea reds were valued different in classic

we have to value them by diamond cost / arena coin cost

[maiden hare]

they really need to add lab now

[timber cipher]

wow @maiden hare I did t2 on my trishea - i had 1 try on dream realm left - some numbers:

from 2.1 - 2.4 to 3.2 in an instant

[maiden hare]

this is my t0 trishea because wilder eq doesn't exists for me

[timber cipher]

yea wilder eq something else

[maiden hare]

but I have another team just saw so it's not really the same

[timber cipher]

oh lmao i know why i have/had the 23b

was testing scarlett last time with 4 leftover tries and forgot to put her out

[maiden hare]

yeah you can't just slot scarlet on belindas spot

[timber cipher]

and didnt use my a5 talene yet used my mates talene because i forgor

hm

oh 27b was just bad rng

lmao

[maiden hare]

yeah you can go over 30b with those teams

33B should be max

or around that

[timber cipher]

yea my talene is only at a5 +21
scarlett only a3 +21

so probably will have to wait wont spent another 50 diamonds on that

can wait

like s84 is luckly a nice top 10 for free - so i usally dont even have to bother with finding best comps

if dream realm becomes regional then shit hits the fan

[maiden hare]

yeah a lot of people will try more in DR after it gets regional

[lusty plank]

How many people get to infinite floor on ur server?

[timber cipher]

atm 63

2-3 months ago it was over 150

[lusty plank]

Damn ur server is dead

Mine still gets close to 150

[timber cipher]

yea some guilds died out

[timber cipher]

think the main part was some bigger players of guilds leaving

and like guilds having only 15-20 players and less activity

[lusty plank]

Montes is right about the thing where older servers have more people playing

[timber cipher]

atleast staying active yea

[lusty plank]

Once Lilith makes classic the game that gets shown to u when u download the game

Companions will for sure die then

The fact that new players get shown companions first is what’s keeping it alive atm

Shalltear collab era was the most fun for me

On companions

[timber cipher]

i mean kinda, but why'd they do that if classic would give them better numbers in terms of activity

think classic was dying out

and the call was made to swap over

think companions is just an easier entrance and makes it so that some people get the taste for more and are able to swap over to classic

think classic itself is just too much of a burden without prior knowledge

if it would get shown to new player

like you know how lost people get with the simple companions in #companions-questions

people get already lost in companions - like classic is something for the ultras

and companions is more beginner friendly

so i get what they did and why they did that

[lusty plank]

Classic absolutely got fucked cuz of it lol

New servers on classic

Are just og players making new accs

To compete easily

[timber cipher]

because yea you can spoonfeed guides in classic

but even then you need hours on hours of reading up that content and sometimes re-reading it when doing it

[timber cipher]

tbf i dont think that its bad because of the complexity and clutter of things that you can do

vs the important things that you should do

lilith doesn't tell you that there are only 3 really important gamemodes that you have to spam focus on

lilith gives you this whole playground of classic and says "have fun"

[weak blaze]

Thanks

Do you Remember my Account what do you think should i buy

I was thinking Gold Embleme

[timber cipher]

would say probably 1x t2 chest and leftovers in gold emblems

other than that you could go full gold emblems - if necessary

[lusty plank]

Game became too complex when they added all those modes and then collections was gg. You can’t expect to have a huge playerbase when there’s so much to do

[timber cipher]

t2 weapons on trishea, aSolise, Shalltear and aBrutus would seem like a really good investment for you @weak blaze

[lusty plank]

Most ppl don’t wanna put in effort like that

[timber cipher]

Yea unfortunately

like i love that there is so much to do there

but it is like its already in companions

people need guides

and sometimes you look up old bad guides and staying up to date with all that complexity is like having a 2nd job

and yea a game is somehow and investment of your time - but it shouldn't feel like a burden

when i played grinder like warframe or very long ago mmorpgs i played them because i had fun doing so ^^

[lusty plank]

Even my guild is starting to see people quitting

Sadge

Unrelated, but for the sigils event, the correct way is to alternate between the factions at the half way point yes?

In order to get the sigils needed

[timber cipher]

that happend in classic on peak playerbase aswell - people will lose intrest

[lusty plank]

I want to get a t2

[timber cipher]

i usally alternate with 3-2/2-3 teams of lb/graveborn and wilder/mauler

maybe the wrong way atm but i planned on spending 1/5/10$ to fill up the needed last ammount for the 2nd chest

if you only plan on getting the 360sigils and one t2 chest

alternating 3-2 / 2-3 between mauler/graveborn

or 3-2/2-3 between wilder/lightbearer is right

like you have 6 fights so you can do 3x 3-2 and 3x 2-3

means you get 15/15 if you simplify it

i get 10/10/5/5
and rotate to 5/5/10/10 basically

[twin marsh]

Is t2 that big of a boost?

[lusty plank]

[magic tree]

So if you get 30 per day, that's 360 in 12 days.

Would need extra 40 with real money to have 2xT2 stones

[timber cipher]

yep thats probably 1$ and 5$ offer

1$ = 15 sigils

[maiden hare]

I think $5 is 45 but I'm not sure

[timber cipher]

the bigger your level the bigger the %boost, aswell as some good base stats, on mage and agility equip also great crit and penetration values

[weak blaze]

Thank You

[timber cipher]

@maiden hare wait you might be right if you buy the 1500 bundles for x5 rewards this event could then again become fine......

I'll model t he road to glory x5 list

tho the reward tiers are spiking weirdly at some point - like to reach the next step you'll need way way more after some point

[timber cipher]

I modeld the road to glory rewards - 257k diamond value

@maiden hare
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yzQWOwfKH8uRK9NkQKUWf99WgXPlXiWJiCC2psw-wcc/edit?gid=1455742826#gid=1455742826

tho its 15$ to unlock and requires after 4800 glory/battle experience (3600 f2p + 1200 from the 15$ unlock)

even more micros to continue
and the better rewards have bigger gaps up to 1200 increase while in the beginning the small rewards are like 180 gaps between glory/battle experience

if someone has already spent for the event on the 5$ pack or can see the 5$ pack, 15$ pack, 25$ pack, 35$ pack, 50$ packs or even the 100$ packs

feel free to show me then I'll add in the sigils and battle experience/glory you gain and then its easy to calculate on which milestone you'll end up with f.e. 4x T2 chests unlocked

and whether it makes sense to go for something or not

it is so obscure - to reverse engineer their values that its becoming a 2nd job to take care of that shit

and in magicans hat itself you got without the extra spent of a "road to glory"

that:

[ebon sand]

I had good hopes but seems like it won't be that easy :/

[maiden hare]

nice

[timber cipher]

damn very nice im at 44-23 atm and slowly going towards 44-52

[maiden hare]

also I think I got an realization that I don't like, this LS event is the 1st one where we can't buy arthur since his debut.

I'm pretty sure it's a "cooldown" event before next Dim collab and with the next one (MH/LS, Isles or whatever comes next) we will get a new Dim release like arthur

I'm guessing it will be Joana de Arc

[ebon sand]

cheers, keep it up, me on the other hand I'm calling it a night

[maiden hare]

because the next event should be in ~3 months, so ~2 months after the now dim collab, it would align with their schedule

[timber cipher]

might be

i like that we get more content/events overall for f2p - like its better to have an off-cd event

but the values for it inbetween still feel kinda weird

like i just hope the ext p2w event doesnt feel so sluggish

because even with road to glory i dont think it matches the ammount mh gave - but i might be wrong about it since its just 100k-ish of stuff

but it is maxed out through that

aslong as i dont have the special offer deals idk where we'd end up on the scale with the x5 pass

since it'd need the +15$ for the pass aswell as the micros to unlock beyond 4800 glory

and i just dont think that 381$/€ value would max it out

[uneven cypress]

@timber cipher do you know whats good on the current event thingy for f2p

[timber cipher]

t2 stones if your server has it, otherwise purple/silver emblems, followed by gold emblems

[runic quail]

😦

No.

What

Who made that call? 😭

Gold emblems for lvl80 but 60 blue shards for lvl100???

[timid briar]

its switch between gold emblems and shard

every 10 level

[runic quail]

Okay but that doesn't really explain why the reward for lvl100 is infinitely worse than the rewards for other levels, does it?

It's a milestone, it should have a milestone reward. This is objectively a very strange choice on Lilith's part

[timid briar]

should be shard then 10 level after gold then 10 later shard etc etc

[runic quail]

I think you're possibly missing the point 😅

[timid briar]

so if 90 was gold emblem then 100 is shard

[runic quail]

I have a feeling you're trolling but I'm too sleepy to know how to respond to it 😔

[timber cipher]

"100 is a big special number, so it should have a good reward"

[timber cipher]

no people are just autistic in here

[timid briar]

ahaha

[timber cipher]

(me included)

[runic quail]

But if it's autism, then we should be noticing that there's a pattern of 5s, 10s and 20s

I don't recall if 50 was a milestone

[runic quail]

So the fact that 100 is worse than a 5 10 or 20

Is making my brain scream and melt and cry

But beyond that like. It's an objective convention of game design that as challenges get harder, rewards get better. So the backwards progression of loot feels very out of place 🥺

This is upsetting me a lot haha

[timber cipher]

yea, king tower is a joke in terms of loot tho

you get like every 20-40 stages something good

[timid briar]

special reward are 5 10 15 20 and restart

[runic quail]

This is genuinely evil 😭

[timber cipher]

i just wouldnt take that too serious and focus on resource generation modes like arena/dream realm/guild hunt

[runic quail]

Ive kinda just hit a wall sadly

[timber cipher]

in 10d dims release

as long as you saved up something you'll crush any wall

otherwise make an acc on a new server

push as much as possible without spending diamonds

get a dim build very far

push further

[runic quail]

I have never heard any of this so I guess I'm screwed 😫

[timber cipher]

with those diamonds from stages and tower you push further

[timid briar]

ahah

its a game just have fun

[timber cipher]

like thats my f2p after 90d

[runic quail]

There goes 17 days of my life 😫

[runic quail]

It's not fun if you're not competitive! 😛

[timid briar]

i know (top 5 or nothing)

[timber cipher]

idk beside the first 6 hours of day 1

and then like 1 hour in the early days with like 3x 20min or 2x 30min

you do not need to do as much

the most annoying part is maxing peaks of times / and the candy crush

basically as seen here build on a new account one dimensional hero to max and brute force your way through campaign with it to gain an advantage over people who do not know that and get stuck / hit walls

[twin marsh]

Im still missing this

[timber cipher]

ask people to do it for you

[timid briar]

i didn't even touch it on my 2d account

[timber cipher]

like you can send people who have cleared a stage a message to autoclear your stage

(i didnt touch it either but spammed the message 5x a day)

they just need t ogo there and press help and it autoclears the stage for the person who asked

[timid briar]

you need a guy that is okay to press a lot of button

[timber cipher]

yea usally i chatted with 2-3 person about it and did it in 3-4min with them

[timid briar]

okay

i will ask guild mate that are tryhard to give me it for free

ahaha

[timber cipher]

so if one person had on one day no time, i asked another one if they had 3min for me to accept my clears

then i send one after another

and they accepted one after another

[timber cipher]

yea i played it myself on my main that was horrible

always when i was in the elevator or was in meetings where i was just waiting on things or was an accessory and just supposed to attend

then i just did stuff like that

[timid briar]

i did it on S49 never again

[timber cipher]

understandable

[timid briar]

happy that the whale on S44 that give me the account did it

ahhaha

[timber cipher]

thats nice

[timid briar]

i seen account of kraken where its not done

because why do it

[timber cipher]

yee tank is gone

[timber cipher]

yea I'd just look for someone who is active and would like to "babysit" it - so that it atleast doesn't lose value or progress

[timid briar]

yeah for early its needed after

skipeable

[timber cipher]

but i mean you'd need someone trustworthy because in worstcase they just say they do it but press the big red button instead

[timid briar]

ahaha

or just have guild with all shared account

i need to run this experiment

[magic tree]

They have increased msg length again

Finally...

[lusty plank]

That button doesn’t insta delete

You need to fill out a form

And wait like 2 weeks

[timid briar]

• you can cancel

[timber cipher]

yea but then i guess it'd be too much if people quit like somebody taking 2-3 accs burns out quick

[lusty plank]

This ^^

[timber cipher]

oh lmao didnt knew

but then you'd have to supervise it atleast every 2 weeks

[lusty plank]

Acc sharing is quite safe here

[timid briar]

you got a mail

[lusty plank]

If it comes down to that then you gave it to a psycho 😂

[timid briar]

when its press

[timber cipher]

for sure kasu just gave it to me and i was like nah i'll delete the data and everything

[lusty plank]

I think most acc pilots have good intentions

I’ve managed like $50k worth of spending in another game

[timber cipher]

like from the chatlog not from the account

[lusty plank]

Piloting someone’s acc

[timber cipher]

damn - not sure if I'd ever pilot someones acc, maybe if im paid for but usally i dont bother

do stuff what i like

doing afk mainly beside watching vids, prob because of some kind of adhd in me that is undiagnosed

[timber cipher]

fyi @maiden hare the 1500mithril road to glory would seem to be worth it even without further checkpoints

(3600 base from f2p + 1200 fron the road to glory 5x pass unlock)

and then buying the 100 mithriland 500 mithril offer for the 2nd T2 stone is the way I'll probably go

@weak blaze
I'll just copy paste what I wrote in reddit

Small follow-up: The 1500 mithril / $15 Road to Glory pack actually seems pretty worth it, even if you don’t buy any more microtransactions after that. It gives you items with a net value of about 29,907 diamonds.

It’s only about -12.85% less efficient than the Climber’s Pack (using Sailus’ Bundle Calculator). Not a huge difference!

For small spenders, grabbing the first two Special Offer tiers (600 mithril / $6 total) to get enough for 2x T2 stones also seems worth it.

So, if you’re a small spender, I’d recommend spending at most 2,100 mithril / $21 total. That covers the Road to Glory x5, plus both the $1 and $5 Special Offer tiers.

[timber cipher]

lmao next milestone for logging in btw

from 180 -> 540

[timber cipher]

added a road to glory cost calculator with the current bundles that I'm aware off and made checkpoints fat

if you know (special*)offers further beyond 15$ tier feel free to send them to me

[maiden hare]

did you substract the value of the items without the pass from the pass?

and like I said that event is worth it for whales

[maiden hare]

that are the real values, $15 pass not bad value at all

note: the $ deals doesn't take the chests into consideration

that would be the value if you bought the pass and $1/5/15 deals (200 chests) and went for a t2 stone with it

okay those are the values with t2, purple(silver), gold won't do anything more
@timber cipher

[twin marsh]

Pretty good value no?

Is it possible to complete the pass though? With the $1 + $5 + $15 offers

[maiden hare]

you need like 1000$ to complete the pass

but I'll not do calculations that deep in

[twin marsh]

Lmao never mind

[vapid lava]

I will keep your theory in mind for the next event

[weak blaze]

🫡

[maiden hare]

not bad, Battle Pass is still a lot better tho

for mid spender that pass is worth it

small spender should stick to Battle passes

also the value isn't bad but the items you get are pretty mid, you get

• x8 SG
• x16 Normal Scrolls
• x12 Red Chest
• x24 Gold Emblems
• x32 Silver Emblems
• x28 Pet Scrolls
• x12 Dust 2h
• x16 Exp 2h
• x32 Elite Stones
• x96 Blue Stones
  and some gold and upgrade mats but that's not worth even counting in

8 sg are nothing
normal scrolls are useless later on
12 red chest won't get you anything, the same for gold/silver ones
28 pet scrolls are also pretty useless the same with the other stuff

now if you are on a fresh account and want to spend it's a pretty good deal but for old accounts it's really mid

[ebon sand]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/atOF_2kZECg I just lol'd at this

[timber cipher]

Yes

[timber cipher]

you just take 1/5th away of it and subtract it

[timber cipher]

not at all you will end up at like 5400/39k

with 15$ at like 6800 or something

[ebon sand]

Hmm, I might just be able to pass 44-56 today, unless I just jinxed it

[timber cipher]

that'd be huge i was able to get do 44-28 but had to get creative

[ebon sand]

ohoh, don't tease, details 😛

[timber cipher]

my solutions get cursed

[ebon sand]

nice!

[timber cipher]

a4 pet wasnt the dealmaker here i think i would've been able to do it with owl or deer aswell

but had to rng a mehira that almost never casted and still most of the time lost

first solution normal
2nd solution weird ass zephyr cheese comp that took like 8 hours of retrying
3rd solution something from you minus audrae + skriath (and somehow used a bad pet but managed to auto sneak past it before adjusting)
4th solution took like 4-5 hours (was the opne i showed)
and 5th was using gwyneth instead of ainz

[ebon sand]

just the advantage she gives early on might change the fight

I wish I had her 5* I'd use here too

[timber cipher]

yea lyca + mehira haste at a albedo buffed shalltear that crits sometimes throwing 4-5 spears in a row (almost looking like old trishea recasts)

was crazy

[ebon sand]

Shit! I'd just beat 44-56 but I was typing here immediately took the mouse to stop autobattle but it was too late

[timber cipher]

always happens with us

but somehow you get lucky enough while writing to beat the stage

[ebon sand]

I just have this for now :p

[timber cipher]

o nooo that 5th comp looks like a creative solution

[ebon sand]

Thanks!

[timber cipher]

bet how many times that freaking thoran revives and just kills your units

I've recently just had a stage like that

[ebon sand]

team 5 was 1 actually

and in first, which was 5 before, I was stuck

I didn't even use marcille in the end

[timber cipher]

reminded me of t hat and it took ages

but i stole that - oku cast actually cancels treznor

[ebon sand]

Yeah I tried Oku in my 5th fight as well, he's a good boy but wasn't enough on his own

[timber cipher]

yea he pretty much just died after taunting 99% of the time leaving arthur alone also flopping over

[ebon sand]

Mira's fear is life

[timber cipher]

and i've just reached 94 level diff - im not close to that 102-107 from you

[timber cipher]

for sure mira is like a stage cheeser and way too great

idk how people still sometimes underrate her

like shes so flexible that you sometimes try to figure out how to move her from the easier fight to the harder fight and rebuild fights

[ebon sand]

but I really like that I invested in Audrae before Athalia, she's so versatile

can work in almost any comp and does the job without insta dying either

[timber cipher]

yea since last upgrade on hypos/celestial buffs audrae feels great

way better than athalia

her 28% pen aswell as the %pen on marcielle are really versitile and open up solutions

[ebon sand]

plus Audrae just works at si20

[timber cipher]

Yep most of the times she doesn't get to cast her ult all that much- but i still like her +30

good %increase (better than athalia, +haste and for the times she ults still nice)

[maiden hare]

audra A3* buff is more important than SI

[timber cipher]

o lol while writing that i just beat 44-28

writing in that dc here is somehow "good" cursed

[ebon sand]

if it weren't for Dims, I think I'd be upping Skriath from 20 to 30 but I wouldn't mind an Si30 Audrae

[maiden hare]

yeah you don't really need si30 on audrae

it's nice but nothing crazy

[timber cipher]

its just number goes bigger like with t2s

t2s aren't crazy but at some point nice to have

[ebon sand]

yeah! complaining works ™

if stones are anything like chars tiers then the fun truly begins at T3 but it's so far

[timber cipher]

++ i somehow feel like some %s work different in terms of multi

or idk whether weapons add to the base or w.e.

because like i cant understand how a t2 weapon would increase trisheas damage by that much in dream like over 1b in 90s with the only buff being lyca and debuff being laios

[ebon sand]

I'm halfway through T3 chars

[timber cipher]

im 19/25 t1

[ebon sand]

I already have enough Trish for the next tier I think but if not I'll be there by the time I can actually do it

annoying prequisites

[timber cipher]

for certain like i get why most of the krakens are at t3 units

[ebon sand]

yeah I get what you mean

it's just a matter of pulling constantly like there's no tomorrow

[timber cipher]

because even with dims there are only 4 faction

and to cap out 5 different heroes of those at like the different checkpoints is already so hard - and then you sidetrack sometimes with other good chars because you're done with one t2 already so why not go for another and adjust wishlsit aslong that

[timber cipher]

yea and since scarlett im hoarding and waiting patiently 10 more days to come

i want to atleast a5 her with that

or w.e. i have in 10d

from (a3)

[ebon sand]

I should do the same to push her further but I don't have that kind of patience 😮

[twin marsh]

When is she coming?

[timber cipher]

i get that

but somehow felt like the right thing to do, since she might just be pretty handy/consistent if you're able to preotect her

[timber cipher]

should be 10/11d with next collab dims

after oden

[maiden hare]

this dude will be really good in campaign

even one copy does it's job

[timber cipher]

he can cheese some units and energytrap/energydrain them

but not sure if thats something for like 90-105 level diff

[maiden hare]

this is the one you want for 100lv+ diff

he oneshots everyone, believe

[timber cipher]

[twin marsh]

They could’ve at least buffed him a lil for companions

Did him so dirty

[maiden hare]

I feel like they only released him because of some story related stuff they want to add next patch

[timber cipher]

walker is really something like a seirus/ulmus/fawkes in disguise

[timber cipher]

yea they added him for the voyage of wonders - its his voyage

[twin marsh]

His design is pretty solid tbh

Would be nice if he had some use

[timber cipher]

still dont get over the part they did alna voyage and did our alna dirty

[maiden hare]

I believe she will come out next patch after dims

it's time for new cele

[timber cipher]

so far every voyage == hero release

but alna hm maybe too strong

[timber cipher]

bet they'll add this weird tool guy in

[twin marsh]

Lmao imagine they take the immunity off her kit

[timber cipher]

Haelus

or Titus

bet they give us that trash

[twin marsh]

I should be good to go if they do release Alna, right?

Easy A5

[timber cipher]

i think they wont

they didnt swap between e30/e60 so far they always took e30 away iirc

[timber cipher]

pray for walker

== 10 pull next time

[twin marsh]

[timber cipher]

1200sg on avg is the real answer

[twin marsh]

Lmao wild

[maiden hare]

don't bait me

[timber cipher]

the temptations 👀

[twin marsh]

I was even considering stopping buying stargazers altogether

[ebon sand]

Damn, Sailus is quite the hoarder too

[twin marsh]

No way I’m ever getting enough for A5 anyone

[twin marsh]

Bro share some

[maiden hare]

nuh

[timber cipher]

depends on what you do - if you spent on like the 20$ monthly pass and wait for expeditions and sometimes freebees you're good to stack

[ebon sand]

I always find an objective that prevents me from hoarding anything be it fodders, summons, emblems

Stones are the exception

[twin marsh]

How many months would you say on average?

For like 1000

[timber cipher]

like the 20$ battlepass is a small spender mvp
if you go for the 15$ card you could even take the diamond value sgs monthy

so idk what to make off - the game is p2w unfortunately and wants you to spent atleast 50$ -80$ ish for competitive good rewards

[maiden hare]

1 year for f2p

[twin marsh]

Oh hell nah

[timber cipher]

depends if they bring back the 100 week point offer and you buy that 3500$ value thingy

probably 9 months

[twin marsh]

Idk if I’ll be playing till then

[timber cipher]

yea cele/hypos are whale stuff in here

like getting sg cards is a roughy

if you have leftover tokens beside emblem buy that'd be one way to do it

from arena

[twin marsh]

Yeah I was doing that till now

[maiden hare]

do you have the Spirit Dew cost for 1st upgrades for the new pet?

[twin marsh]

That’s how I got talene to A5

[timber cipher]

Yea wait lemma check in dc

[twin marsh]

But it feels rough to stack it all the way to 1000+ again with how long it takes

[timber cipher]

got it

[timber cipher]

thats for sure also knowing that each sg that you potentially spent gives you a few emblems and such - gives an advantage in some kind of form for players who spent them

but if they add a metashifting or gamebreaking hypo/cele you're prepped

but people been telling to wait and not spent on talene since my day 1 and we didnt get in these 180+ days no real impactful hypo/cele aside from lucretia that is only necessary for newer servers with less dims

[maiden hare]

is the 1/2 ratio always the same?

can you check if you didn't upgraded all you stats to ascended already

[timber cipher]

so far yes

[twin marsh]

Do you think they’ll ever optimize sg in here?

[maiden hare]

they will in ~2 years probably

[timber cipher]

they might add a resource generation mode for sg

[maiden hare]

but idk if the game will be here in 2 years tbh

[twin marsh]

In their new version AFK Arena Family

[maiden hare]

[timber cipher]

would think so they don't even let classic die down

i think companions is the way to bait some ultras into swapping into classic and spending there aswell

[maiden hare]

companions has like a lot less revenue even with all the new players starting here

if they ever swap that thing out that new players start at classic not companions this game will die in 6 months

[timber cipher]

idk did we ever get some numbers comparing companions/classic whales?

[twin marsh]

I just find it weird that they choose companions to be the first to pop up, but then proceed to not give us any content whatsoever

[timber cipher]

i just know that yea companion whales burn out faster because its the standard game and some folks will move on 3-6 months in

but we have like really big t1/t2 whales in s160+ already

[twin marsh]

I get that things are meant to be more chill here, but it’s still way too little

[timber cipher]

like classic region are also weird and it feels really similar to me - but i might be biased from looking less at classic and more onto companions

like if you have folks like that at s161

that tran1 audrae and talene like tank did

tank even tran2 audrae

on a server that is like 80d old

[maiden hare]

yeah still nothing in comparison to classic

[timber cipher]

bet but in classic you dont have as many people dolphining or small spending

and that changes also a lot

[maiden hare]

I would say it's the other way around

[timber cipher]

i think in classic you have like ultras that are already attached to the game

while in comp you get people for new collabs, for other stuff and getting into it

i think they wouldn't have pulled the plug on classic if it was attractive for newer players

like they specifically made companions because people are overwhelmed by the guides and knowledge needed to play classic

and that is massively frustrating

that is even frustrating for some folks in companions

and companions isnt that deep

[maiden hare]

yeah I'm not saying it's not, this game is still pretty popular and has a steady income, I'm not worrying about that for now, just saying that IF they ever switch the new playerbase to classic (for what ever reasons), companions will die in 6 months, it won't hold like classic

[timber cipher]

but i might be biased arround it -- i just dont think lilith is dumb the way the studio makes money overall with their games

so i dont think afk will die that fast, aslong as it still clutches numbers as 3rd best game of them, no way that they stop it

whether its classic or companions

[timber cipher]

yea thats for sure

the game doesnt get that many new players

classic people even said like most of classic new servers is some classic folks retrying or becoming bigger spenders

but i bet player retention was abyssmal on classic

and isnt the best in companions either like some servers have 150+ active players, mine atm has like only 80 left, because the guilds died out

and i get that this is not a very good number

but like old classic server have at most 10-15 active players in the arena and such, regions are a bit different in there - idk how many active players newer servers have - but for like my arround s100ish classic acc - server was dead dead

would love to see some public numbers about that if you know what i mean - to find about how classic is doing

how companions is doing and so on

but aside from googleplay i think they wont ever sshow how much they make with mithril and how much they make classic vs companions based

but I think you're def right with topspenders on classic

like maxing out highborns, wokes, relic collection (ghoulish), engravings+100, furniture+36, SI+50, pet level 18s and having X teams with that stuff - like companions is luckly not close to that by any means

[clever ermine]

When's the dimension stuff happening

Got like 300 of those scrolls now

If that's even alot

[timber cipher]

30th - 10d

[timber cipher]

event usally lasts atleast 1 month so you have quite some time to spent ur diamonds and get more stuff to finish building atleast one char

[clever ermine]

Bett ty

Got 70k diamonds too

[timber cipher]

that would end you up with 533 pulls on day one

on avg with milestone rewwards 20-21ish souls

at worst 14

14 is a0
24 is a5

there is also freebees and technically the epic copy of the heroes so you only need 23 copies to finish

++ idk it was like last time 4ish free dimsouls

[tranquil crag]

@timber cipher I saw it mentioned earlier but around how many diamonds or scrolls are needed to max out both new heroes, on average?

[timber cipher]

believe it was arround 1200-1400 on avtg can search it out for you, at worst obv way more

that were 100mil simulations

if you're really lucky 1100ish or less
if you're on avg 1200-1300ish
if you're really unlucky 1400ish or more

and last milestone is 1700

[tranquil crag]

Thank you 🙌 I want to A5 my Arthur out too on this event if possible so trying to plan. That doesn't include the few copies of dimensional spirits we might get with buying the collab packs, right?

[timber cipher]

yes it doesn't include the p2w packs - thats purely simulating milestones + 2% odds

(it has a pitycounter in it)

[twin marsh]

@timber cipher I currently got Laios at A1 and Albedo at E. Do you think I go for Albedo M and Laios A5 or leave Laios at A1 and take Albedo all the way to A1/A3?

[timber cipher]

so you max out 1700 pulls you should end up at arround 63,1 souls on average (all milestones - you shouldnt pull more)

and then also get the 100$, 50$, 30$ and 5$ packs for both dimensionals you'll have plenty

[timber cipher]

cant say, smartest bet is to see how many souls you'd end up with and decide on then

espacially since we dont know the impact of the new dims on the game

but usally albedo +30 and albedo a3 is really really nice to have

laios will work on guildhunt and dream at a1 +20 easily aswell

laios a5 flops sometimes even for me at +30
and in my honest opinion he doesn't feel that great for pvp/campaign/forked/tower

[twin marsh]

Damn I see, had higher expectations for him 😔

[timber cipher]

sailus statement is a1 is enough for campaign

but tbf im at 95ish level diff atm

which is really really hard in pve

[twin marsh]

He’d be better off being a tank, lilith made him way too squishy

[timber cipher]

like he is really good if you get him to ult but i think without alna or some other kind of invurnerbility you do not get that to happen

he needs quite a long time to get his stacks so if he survives he's sooo soo good

[timber cipher]

like he is still one of the best heroes we currently have - but for high diff kinda to fragile ig.

you can ask after collecting some souls and after we have some numbers/values and testings done for the new dims what you should focus on - that would be probably the smartest thing to do

[twin marsh]

Yeah

It’ll depend on how good they are

[frigid abyss]

Hello. With this dimensional heroes event, are all dimensional heroes available for pull?

[maiden hare]

no only the new ones

[frigid abyss]

Thanks for the response. How many are there? Also, is it the same how you pull the new heroes or is it going to be an entirely new mechanic?

[frigid abyss]

Btw, thank you for your forever tier list

[tranquil crag]

Sounds good, thank you for the information 🙌

[timber cipher]

2 new heroes (probably Sung Jinwoo and Cha Hae-In from solo leveling)

it is the same way, in terms of %, it also uses divine scrolls and you can also pull them with diamonds, but the milestone rewards are a lot better and go up to 1700

the event is usally available for 1 month, for the overlord collab it was prolonged by another month (to 2 months) - for delicous in dungeon it was only 1 month.

(normal milestones are worse and normal new hero releases are usally only 14d in the divine scroll tab)

[frigid abyss]

Thank you. Is there a way to even get those past featured heroes?

[timber cipher]

(basically every reward is the 360 milestone and after a couple you get the 480 milestone with dimensional equipment)

[timber cipher]

at this moment not

in classic afk arena there was also no such thing but after 9-12 month-ish they released a feature called garrison where you were able to "rent" heroes from friends for 30d for a lot of resources

after those doing those 30d for 5 times you got the hero unlocked permanently

(dimensionals work on a different system in classic and no you didn't get the equipment or +30 from renting the hero - you only unlocked the hero and were free to use it as if you had the hero yourself unlocked)

so we may get a system to get old dimensionals in the future

but speculation based on the old/classic version

[maiden hare]

I think they gonna introduce it in ~3 months with the next event and next dimensional like arthur (probably joana)

or they gonna release Lab and put some dims there 🙏

also note that this are only my speculations made out of thin air so don't take my word for it

[timber cipher]

yea hopefully atleast - like global events (sigils/idk whats it called with zero limit) where people without shalltear have to face shalltear in pvp

[timber cipher]

btw. Alna would be pretty gamebreaking in here Sailus, suddenly you get 100% times laios ult off and atleast him surviving 10s

gimme gimme Alna

[maiden hare]

I was testing some teams in DR and I certainly didn't expect him doing random ass 1B on Idre

[maiden hare]

yeah alna would be pretty good

but she probably will need a5 and that's sadly a lot of investment for a hero that has only one use

and the worst part is, with the cele buffs (combat rating buffs etc.) you really don't want to have "useless" buffers at a5* because they certainly will be hero with the most combat rating or attack in the team

a lot of buffs work for the heroes with those stats

[timber cipher]

that is some value knowledge

[maiden hare]

and you don't want alna to always get the buffs in her team only because she needs to be a5

[timber cipher]

Yea that is with some targeted buffs completly true, however its just a knowledge checkpoint in terms of teambuilding

[maiden hare]

so if she really needs a5 it could be also a troll investment to be honest

[maiden hare]

it's not that important for now but the heroes that will come out later they all scale their buffs with those 2 stats I mentioned

and alna will always have 1 of them if you don't pair her with any other a5 cele/hypo and you don't want to do it

[timber cipher]

tbf you could pseudocomp some antitank alna, laios, audrae

but whale stuff

obviously if you stack up and only end up with a5 alna i know what you mean

but even then in terms of teambuilding you just dont use her in a buffer comp

you pivot her into some other nieche comp like f.e. alna grezhul

[twin marsh]

Wait if you pair mira with alna, does she trigger her ult when she dies and becomes invincible afterwards or is it canceled by alna?

[timber cipher]

like i get that point- 100% but the point is a knowledge checkpoint

alna would be 100% certain be more impactful than all wokes that we currently have

[timber cipher]

she is invurnerable to dmg so she doesn't die

[maiden hare]

well we will see how she scales etc. if she really has her 9s buff at a5 then idk

[timber cipher]

i just need an impactful tank, campaign/ff/tower feels kinda rough where I'm at

the only other thing to do would be gamble on khazard +30 cc and look whether enemies have tenacity build in or are perma cc able

and I've seen recently one guy with a1 +20 khazard ... but we have so little folks with khazard and nobody +30s him

[slender edge]

Any working code? Just got back in the game.

[maiden hare]

be the 1st one, don't be shy 👀

[twin marsh]

Dude you’ve been talking about him for months

Do it, you deserve it

[timber cipher]

i wouldn't bother if I'd wouldn't be 1 celestial off from aTalene

didnt buy the talene package so it took quite some while with "careful spending" - since i unlike with the celstwing package usally do not buy everything

on day 1

[slender edge]

Hoy tang ina nyo penge codes mga gago! Puta kala nyo nde nyo nababasa message ko ah tang ina nyo

[timber cipher]

Only because the first part is written in one language and the 2nd part is written in another - doesn't mean that translators can't translate it.

You're a special person.

[slender edge]

Gago alam kong may translator sinadya kong inessage yan tanga

Mas lalo mo lang pinatunayan na bobo ka

[vapid lava]

Please 🙏

[ebon sand]

@timber cipher gotta resist till Scarlet is in the pool

[timber cipher]

rough times but yea that makes more sense

[weak blaze]

Iperx babe

Should i hold on to buying sis with diamonds for the Next month

That would be -6k weekly

[timber cipher]

really depends on your min ammount of souls that you would get

dimensional events are more rare than SIs - but SIs are basically the bread and butter of progression in terms of strength

[inland flame]

Hey just a quick question

[timber cipher]

so only if you're uncertain and on a bad number like f.e. 20 but want to guarantee 24

[inland flame]

When 2 leagues are attacking the same city do you fight each other at all or how doesn’t work exactly

Does

[timber cipher]

last hit

its basically rng its frequently asked in #golden-frontier-chat

[inland flame]

I don’t get it

Oh ok

I get it

[timber cipher]

random whoever lasthits the wall to 0%

[inland flame]

So even a weaker league can get it

[timber cipher]

yep

[tribal sparrow]

Where can I enter the code?

[wide valve]

is there any active codes for companions?

[inland flame]

Working Current Codes (Companions)

AFK8888
AFK999
Zdf888
Zdf666
Sp888
Sp666

Pretty sure those one still work

New code: pc6wy5miwb

Ty @true meteor

This one too

[wide valve]

thanks ❤️

[weak blaze]

I could use some more to Maybe Build laios

I believe u Said that hes good but to fragile rn

I only have him mythic

[timber cipher]

yea look at sailus tierlist

he's mostly to fragile for me even at a5/+30

he's still great for dream realm/guild hunt and some kind of pvp - but top 10 whale arena he's not "outstanding" and on 95 leveldiff+ he's laso not performing

so might be an a1 +20 angle

[timber cipher]

but rather than that wait for the new dims to come out - look how many souls you have and whatever makes the most sense, if the new kits are metashifting - then we gotta build them first and ignore laios at this point

[weak blaze]

I will definetly think Long and Hard and After careful consideration

Ask you what to do 😂

[timber cipher]

do your pulls see what you end up with and then its probably easy going

[silent ravine]

At least one dim is prob broken, there’s no way jinwoo isn’t broken to hell and back

[weak blaze]

Assuming at least one of them wont Need a5 i will be Fine

[timber cipher]

my f2p is slowly falling behind tempo

[coarse torrent]

Thx

[coarse torrent]

Thx

[maiden hare]

I'm pretty sure that every league got their copy of that city and the 1st one to take it down takes it, that RNG fiesta was only for S1

but I could be wrong on that one, didn't looked it up this time

[inland flame]

Ok thanks

Should I T2 asolise or wait for solo leveling in case they’re really strong

[twin marsh]

I’d wait

[tribal sparrow]

What is the difference between a companions and a classic?

[timber cipher]

try both, find it out https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1304579856918642748

[broken glade]

[timber cipher]

o7

[ebon sand]

maybe just holidays!

[maiden hare]

[lusty plank]

Holidays until the next century maybe

[ebon sand]

Did he actually say he quit?

[ebon sand]

some more progress!

tower I just copied but all the single squad fights in campaign from 44-57 to 59 gave me trouble

I even managed to see it live so I was able to stop autobattle and then record this time, I miss 90+% of my winning solosquad fights

I wish when you autobattle it would allow you to see any winning replays at the end on the battle report screen

Mira surviving by just a hair in the second half was wild

I think just one less star or stone or her gear she was cooked

I think I need to give Marcille the same treatment, sigh so many fodders in sight and dims coming, my head spins

[sick sorrel]

good evening friends

[shrewd saffron]

is there a companion guide for newbies?

[vivid temple]

@shrewd saffron

[shrewd saffron]

thank you bro

[ebon sand]

I can't believe it, fucking network error when I beat the chapter.... And I'm on PC with lan network, I'm fuming

[timid briar]

yeah that crazy

[pine sable]

if it worked once just rerun lol but i feel ur pain, most annoying thing is when the battle verification failed

[ebon sand]

Yeah well the thing is it happened a bit before I had to leave for work, I managed to beat 3 squads but n°2 and 4 require a miracle of RNG to beat, there's no guarantee I can reproduce with hours of retries

Anyway I've put the PC back to sleep before leaving, hopefully tonight I'll beat it

[mint osprey]

5 teams 💀

[ebon sand]

Holy shit, why do I struggle with shells on my main and I get so many on my alt

[timid briar]

ahah

wrong target

[shrewd schooner]

Does anyone have any ideas for setting up a camp?

[timid briar]

a camp ?

[pine sable]

a camp ?

[cold current]

a camp ?

[shrewd schooner]

I don't know what that word is called, like this

all camps?

[cold current]

Damn, someone pays attention to this?

[timid briar]

big guild do some patern just for fun

[timid briar]

like this rat

[shrewd schooner]

it's for fun :v

[timber cipher]

o7 but holy you push well

[ebon sand]

If I fail to beat it again tonight I'll riot!!!

[vapid lava]

There's no way o7

[prisma forum]

Suche eine deutsche Anfänger Gilde

[coarse bison]

Which faction should I be pulling?

[covert hawk]

wilders

[ebon sand]

Let's goooooooooooooooooo!

[vapid lava]

Congrats! Big moves

Leading us forward one stage at a time

[ebon sand]

Thanks!

[brave plaza]

For an achievement like this we must get at least 10 stargazing cards

Chapter 40 and above

200 gems is an insult

[marble canopy]

Who should I stargaze for in companions???

[oblique trellis]

why wont it let me use the starter guide faq

[weary dove]

Does the visiting merchant come back?

[hollow river]

Congrats

[swift depot]

Who?

[weary dove]

The visiting merchant, the one that has all the deals

[nimble perch]

Can somebody give me the tl;dr on how the new pet summoning works? Different currency to pull with?

[patent ingot]

How do I get this guy do I jst try too summon for him?

[weary dove]

I think you need to play classic

[deep solar]

Is walker trash

[stoic pilot]

I don't think anyone has built him up yet.

[ebon sand]

Thank you!

[obtuse jay]

Do we know who the new dims are yet

[lusty plank]

Congratz on being the first person to ever reach ch 45 on companions!

[twin marsh]

@obtuse jay

[obtuse jay]

Lol how did I miss that right above me. Ty

[twin marsh]

They gave him that damn blue jacket

[ebon sand]

Thanks man!

[cold current]

Based Jinwoo

[ebon sand]

still climbing 😮

[trim sedge]

Hi guys is there a tier list for companions ?

[simple monolith]

Yeah, just search afk arena companions tier list or something like that and a reddit will appear

Either that or look at the popular heroes in game or around here in previous messages

[oblique trellis]

atleast the skills look good now unlike those dungeons

[cold current]

Idk, I think they looked cool

[pine sable]

ggs first in the world right?

[ebon sand]

Thanks, I think so yes, unless there are asian servers or something that don't share their replays/formations with ours

[timid briar]

nah don't think

gg one 1rst

i have more level but my box is bad so i need to work on that

[ebon sand]

So I guess the old low spender-friendly Pippa deal got moved to 60% now and at 100% the pretty expensive one I saw last week will probably pop again

[ebon sand]

Nice then 🙂

[timid briar]

me at level 386 just missing a lot of hero for a ez push

[bright ivy]

what do you think about new colab heroes?

[ebon sand]

That we don't know enough yet

[timber cipher]

huge

[timber cipher]

gz!!!

first ch45 insane

[ebon sand]

Thank you!!! 😊

[timber cipher]

nobody can take that wall of legends ch45 with that date from ya in companions

[ebon sand]

Ahaha yeah, it feels nice ngl but I don't think there was really anyone trying to beat me at it

Still no luck at the mauler tower though

Orthos supported with Rosaline, Lucius and Hendrick should be illegal

[ebon sand]

I managed to kill all but Orthos with those 2 formations but by then his regen is way too strong

Nvm, I beat it!!! @timber cipher

[twin marsh]

Predictions on their classes?

I feel like she’ll be warrior

Him either ranger or mage

[timber cipher]

wait the dim pet was bait all along

[ebon sand]

Gz!! 🎉

[timber cipher]

Hard to say without leaks

he's prob int/agi with class being ranger

and she's prob agi/str class being ranger/warriror

depending on their kits

[timber cipher]

Thanks stole that from you, so ty for helping me progress

[vapid lava]

I'm hoping we get at least one warrior/tank. Realistically Cha will be a warrior and Jin-woo will be a mage. But Jin-woo falls into tank/mage so that would be cool to see

[ebon sand]

yw! that's why I pinged you 😉

[ebon sand]

let's not stop while there's still momentum

[timber cipher]

very nice

struggling a bit with 432 4x lbs

[ebon sand]

just got 430 mauler 😮

[timber cipher]

skraith 30 is a cheese

[hollow river]

Your welcome

[ebon sand]

damn

[vapid lava]

Nice

[timber cipher]

y0m is on the run again

[ebon sand]

nah the lucius belinda one stopped me on my tracks xD

[timber cipher]

433 with the tasi/nara/oku is kinda annoying lots of cc hasted by a lyca

[ebon sand]

I must have been extremely lucky then, I think I beat 3 floors in autobattle without adjusting the team

[timber cipher]

got a lucky pass where skriath survived nara

maybe ^^

put your pet has double crit so maybe not - mine is a lot worse i believe ^^

on my f2p seeing double crit spider with graveborns is insane 20cr is so muuch espacially when you have some equipment done already

[ebon sand]

I'm gonna watch those replays now, I'm curious xD

Oh btw, I have a favor to ask of you