companions-chat

[timber cipher]

they're trying to test it out and see if people want to buy it

then if even the high spenders wont buy it

except for like 10 people in total

then they say well didnt work

lets change it up

[quick hinge]

Guarantee u they won't change

They even nerfed all the mines

By 50%

[timber cipher]

Yea it was a lot of rewards for free

it was the biggest free giveaway that we had

and even nerfed at 50% its good

it was too good to have

like i stockpiled over 120k diamonds, over 60sg cards and over 150k dust

passively

[quick hinge]

That's u not everyone

[timber cipher]

what do you get in abex, like 35 sg cards and 5k diamonds for even more effort?

[quick hinge]

I don't see this event as good thing to have

[quick hinge]

Vot last 4 days max

This event is 30 days

So ofc

U can't compare the two

[timber cipher]

ofc they are different things but you can compare every event to it

no event is as good in passive gains as golden frontier is

thats why its nerfed, it was a beta and looked like it had to many drops even for me - but i was greatful to enjoy the loot pinata

[quick hinge]

I hope the event gets removed an redone

[timber cipher]

Maybe im becoming unreasonable, but the game is p2w in every sense and if people buy dumb shi... they'll keep doing it and giving it away.

[quick hinge]

It's sht as is

[timber cipher]

If people dont buy stuff they wont do it

as simple as that, thats how stuff works

becuase there are people like tank buying every weekly offer away, they'll keep 'em

[quick hinge]

I said my opinion

[timber cipher]

because you're also buying weeklies on new releases, they'll keep 'em

[quick hinge]

It's not gonna change

[timber cipher]

I'm pretty sure most whales are smart enough to now, that the buffs are not necessary and won't change the outcome or gameflow from golden frontier

If people align in a big ally, its the same event as last time with 50% less rewards

and hey 60k diamonds 80k+ dust and lots of gazers/emblems/scrolls from the chests, are still good for the little of effort you have to put in golden frontier.

Sometimes you just need to lay back and relax.

The only effort that I'll have next time is communicating the big alliance out early on and planing it with the folks that are in the golden frontier.

[quick hinge]

Your trying to put what happened in yours in everyone else's not everyone wants to team

[magic tree]

Well, there are Vanguard battles now, where the strongest 5 players fight to impact on the actual sieges.

So....if those 5 are buff-payers, that changes the whole setting for 160 people.

[quick hinge]

^

[timber cipher]

Ah if they do such stuff that does suck

[eternal drum]

Between Arthur and this new frontier we now see what Lilith is willing to turn their game into. I've played games that went down this path. It's pure copium at this point to say that things are still manageable. How many times do they need to screw us over for us to say "no wait this is actually too much"

[magic tree]

It is already implemented

We don't know yet the real impact

But the battles implement a "vanguard system" where top 5 players fight the top 5 from defenders

and the winner, gets some sort of benefit in the following battle

additionally, you can no longer swap battles as before

[quick hinge]

P2w baby

[magic tree]

like....cancelling attacks has a price

each team sent cost 100 shells

so 5 teams, 500 shells

If the strategy changes, you have to cancel...and pay another 500 shells

so, even the strategic part of the game is killed

not to say how the relics got reordered so that even if your IQ is negative you will develop normally and buying the best relics and nodes

[eternal drum]

At least they haven't put shells in a special shop

[old laurel]

Yet*

[magic tree]

since all the bad ones are literally the last on the list and the MOST expensive by MILES away

[eternal drum]

$20 for 500 shell topup

[magic tree]

Don't give em ideas

[quick hinge]

[old laurel]

[magic tree]

Have you seen the new Black Mirror episode?

on last season

about the membership payments

that is just literally Lilith

[timber cipher]

not really btw.

we had one team naming themself whale hunters, wanting to go all out war against us, then they fought us for 1 day and noticed that it makes no sense and tried to negotiate instantly

---

bet that some people will be hyped up to battle in golden frontier, but if its about mining rewards and farming passively, you have a collective with one intrest and and people will bend over for it.

[eternal drum]

Honestly I've never seen anyone fumble this badly where they make something strictly worse following beta feedback and introduce mtx.

[timber cipher]

Yea lilith is bad in monetization arthur event already sucked ass in that case for f2ps

[quick hinge]

Again

That's yours

[eternal drum]

It's like they saw that people were happy and could afford to make them more upset for some quick cash

[timber cipher]

But we're on test, they receive feedback and its not live yet

[magic tree]

They need to get their heads outta their arses asap

[old laurel]

😭 😭

[eternal drum]

Test? The only thing they're testing is our patience and willingness to be fucked

[timber cipher]

mf have you seen ppl talking in golden frontier chat, have you seen server 100+ upwards from grace server and so on... its not just mine

[eternal drum]

Stop the copium

[quick hinge]

I've seen a few

Even saw tanks

[timber cipher]

just because YOURS was like ppl forming a big pont and stomping you

[quick hinge]

His took the entire map

[timber cipher]

means not its everyones

[magic tree]

The worst thing is still the 3 day ban and 2 day ban

when swapping leagues

3 days with no ceremony and 2 days with no afk rewards

[quick hinge]

?

[magic tree]

like, do you have a turd instead of a brain dear developer?

[timber cipher]

yea that sucks but tbh i dont think that makes up a lot if you swap early since you can just outgrow it

[magic tree]

I shouldn't need to outgrow it

I shouldn't endure such a moronic rule

[timber cipher]

no 100% agree, its bs

[magic tree]

not when I cannot even choose where I play

[eternal drum]

Well when you swap early you might make the wrong call if the power swings the other way and then you'll waste even more time switching a 2nd time

[magic tree]

it's more

before, if you didn't enroll on the event, you would just join and picj the league 1 to 12

[timber cipher]

but its a soft leave prevention, like i think they wanted people to be unable to leave a league

but also felt bad for people getting in a fully inactive league and thought this would be the fix for it

[magic tree]

now, I didn't even enroll on test, and after joining today I got randomly assigne to a league

[quick hinge]

Lilith an feeling bad doesn't go together

[eternal drum]

Imagine splitting up guilds across leagues and then preventing people from leaving their leagues through harsh penalties

Wtf do they think this game is about

[magic tree]

Imagine now. You start on an inactive Leauge = BAD
Then you have to swap to what seems to be a good league = BAD 2 days without resources
Then that league gets stompe and you swap again

[timber cipher]

mf you dumped 30k+ into that company if you do not know that lilith is not feeling bad for t aking money then idk xD

[timber cipher]

tbf its better than making it unable to leave leagues at all - is how I see it.

[magic tree]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-ape-raise-gun-gif-17500450

[timber cipher]

its bad

[magic tree]

Lilith developers

[timber cipher]

but toast

you saw #golden-frontier-chat

people were mad about people forming big alliances

that was their response on those takes ig

[eternal drum]

They implemented a half assed solution.

[timber cipher]

now from the discord, i bet from their own shitsurveys

[magic tree]

No

It has nothing to do with alliances lol

Basically, the game mode became WORSE for 100% the players.

It's like if you tried to make it worse, you literally couldn't

[timber cipher]

def, its nerfed and penalties are big

no denying that

[magic tree]

Imagine paying a team of people to develop a game like this

I don't know who is the f clown running this show

[timber cipher]

i get why most people are mad about it because lilith gave away free candy for once

[eternal drum]

They did nothing to solve the core issues of game mode that led to massive leagues. They're just putting up roadblocks that act as inconveniences rather than doing anything productive

[timber cipher]

and now they're saying you get less candy

[magic tree]

but the guy must be literally below the below average.

[magic tree]

Dude are you blind?

It has nothing to do with resources

[timber cipher]

[magic tree]

The game experience is simply worse

[eternal drum]

Most gachas hire psychologists to figure out how to make players spend as much as possible. Lilith hires psychologists to figure out how to piss off as many people as possible.

It's truly remarkable how little they understand when it comes to making a good experience

[timber cipher]

im not denying that, so idk why you'd get mad lmao

[magic tree]

I don't know, maybe because it looks like you are the first born of lilith defending their dumbass moves?

[eternal drum]

Unfortunately they'll just get a bunch of new players who don't know how much better things were to replace the older players who will quit

[twin marsh]

Yep this might be it for me

[timber cipher]

but im saying that i saw way too many people in the Warzone chat beaing dumb and asking for specifically such things and since lilith only does their ingame survery - dumb people get what dumb things they wanted

[magic tree]

been saying that for months now stfu

[twin marsh]

Yep this might be it…

[timber cipher]

in what case defending it? I can just see what people said

f.e. "make people unable to leave a league, its unfair" ... so they made a penalty on leaving a league...

its not defending it, its dumb people answering a survey and lilith implementing a dumb thing that makes the gamemode worse

[magic tree]

You can't pay attention to idiots

[timber cipher]

the p2w thing is really bad

but no one will buy it

[magic tree]

Nor implement what they ask for

[timber cipher]

yeah you shouldnt as developer

[magic tree]

of course they will

[timber cipher]

thats bad

and I said that I don't like it

[magic tree]

same people who wasn't buying Arhtur

And had him 5stars day one

[swift depot]

Interesting, I thought it left you out of event if not enrolling

[timber cipher]

but can we do something beside not spending money on the event to show it bad, no?

so just not spent money on it in protest

[magic tree]

No, you could join any time.

[timber cipher]

and show them

[quick hinge]

[timber cipher]

answer it in the next survey that they made it bad

and move on

[magic tree]

Before, say you join day 10.
You click in and you get the list of 12 leagues to choose where to join

Now, you join and you randomly get assigned

[timber cipher]

because they dont hear what we say in the discord, they hear what people say in the badly done ingame surverys - thats just what I can see

[magic tree]

fuck it

Im closing discord, quite mad

[timber cipher]

if its bad enough to make you guys quit, then quit it

[eternal drum]

So true

[timber cipher]

its really bad and im not saying that its good

[swift depot]

But what percentage of the playerbase is that? 5%

[timber cipher]

but like it doenst help to say well its all joever we get 30-40% of the rewards in total on the next event and we get less functional alignment because of penalties

[timber cipher]

yea ppl said they wont buy arthur for 1500$

because lots of people believed your arthur is 1500$ on release

... with the special offer it was 200$ .. then there were people still not buying him

and then people found out about xp value and went crazy - happens

[quick hinge]

It was cheaper to 5* Arthur then people think

[timber cipher]

like with f2p keys i believe it was altogether 120$ to unlock arthur

did that calc for a mate and can get it out

[quick hinge]

Think I 5*'ed him for ~3-4

[swift depot]

As "cheaper" as it was, anything over $60 is expensive for gaming standards since that gets you a full AAA game

[quick hinge]

People who plays these don't have time for AAA games

So it's fine

[swift depot]

They totally do if they buy a Switch

Or a Steam deck

[quick hinge]

Oh did u see they made a switch 2?

What is the difference from 1 an 2?

[timber cipher]

for sure gacchaing is stupid

[timber cipher]

I tried saying that as arguement for kasus spendings - but it is what it is ... people can do whatever they want with their money.

[swift depot]

Higher specs, and new games supported/developed for it

[quick hinge]

Ic ic

[timber cipher]

they even used a worse screen technology I believe, but made it bigger, a bit more ram and magnetic grips instead of slide in thingies

[swift depot]

They better fixed the Joycon drift

[quick hinge]

I always hated drift

Played on ps4 for awhile

The sht would always break

[swift depot]

I hadn't heard drift on PS controllers, maybe you went too hard lol

[timber cipher]

tbf what I don't understand -
pc mice dont drift
real car wheels dont drift

why do the analog sticks for gamepads drift?

like is it a cheap mechanical thingy that is in their that they dont seem to replace with an expensive part because well consumption and we can sell more replacement parts because of that

[quick hinge]

Cod and fort

[swift depot]

Yeah, Fortnite building shenanigans kinda tax the sticks

[old laurel]

You barely played then every controller I ever had, had drift after a while

[swift depot]

I don't play much real time/action games, sue me

Stuff done in turns or with preparation is my jam

[old laurel]

Yeah that's fair, if you played alot of actions games, it's was like every few months, if you waited a while before getting a new one it could get really bad

[quick hinge]

It was pain

Switching to pc made life easier

[swift depot]

Rather I think people complain because Nintendo joycons started drifting from light use, like mines did

Imagine getting drift from playing freaking Persona

[old laurel]

Yeah ps controller were never that bad, and I was certainly never a light use user

Getting drift from persona is crazy

[quick hinge]

I enjoyed this game abit

[slow umbra]

Depends games are like 80$ now for switch lol

[swift depot]

Fine, I'll raise the bar

[slow umbra]

Nintendo was also like years behind specs for other console

[quick hinge]

I'll come back to console games once vr becomes like sao

[old laurel]

Sao my fav

[quick hinge]

For a vr game

Would have to say

Bofuri

Better

[old laurel]

Never played vr, sao hold a special place in my heart as it was the first anime I watched

[swift depot]

So you will have to raise from the grave for that

[timber cipher]

naraka was nice

[quick hinge]

Oh?

U played??

[quick hinge]

Lmao

[timber cipher]

Yea, climbed a bit was good in it

played like 2 seasons with some friends

[quick hinge]

I got bullied by a Chinese man with a staff

[timber cipher]

but then we kinda moved on played it to little

[old laurel]

Noob

[timber cipher]

Mhm there were some nice combos you could learn, depending on the weapons and char you played for midair times, but you had to crounch cancel a lot which made my pinkie hurt

also after climbing out of gold/platinum you rarely used charge attacks because it was to easy to counter

Buut was fun, early on in bot lobbies you kinda felt like a god eventho you didnt knew what you were doing

and later one it became really grindy and hard

+7, -11, +6, -8 ...

sufferd also a lot from smurfs

but had really really nice art

[timber cipher]

but the maps get boring because games are kinda repetitive and so you kinda play less and less

[old laurel]

I never played it

[ebon sand]

Drift is entirely avoidable with Hall Effect sticks, Sony and others don't use it on purpose because they make a shit ton of money on accessories

They're such scammers that the sticker with the serial number is placed right where your hands sweat the most

[timber cipher]

cant tell much from what i see

but you rmb, shift moved, into grapple a lot for momentum - how did that guy bully you?

[ebon sand]

This way by the time it drifts there's a high chance you can't claim your warranty

[timber cipher]

crazy, glad i dont own/play console didnt knew that the sn sticker was malicously place

placed*

[ebon sand]

I think the first controller to use hall effects sticks was on the Sega Saturn

So the technology is old af

Many brands use those though, like 8-bit do

I think there's even a newer technology now

[quick hinge]

That wasn't me

That was the Chinese man

Who bullied me

[timber cipher]

o

[quick hinge]

I didn't even know u could do that

[timber cipher]

i mean takes some times like the first couple of days we thought we were gods at the game but mostly fought bots

and wonderd why all others were so shi at it

so totally fair when you didnt play a lot

[quick hinge]

These where my main ^

[timber cipher]

Mhm I loved the single sword and the spear tbh because they were easy to combo with

but at first i really loved the dagger and like using a dagger for movement is crazy, like ur never out of stamina and can cover so much distance

[timber cipher]

dualswords have some good charge attacks and mods that you can equip with them, so can see why you'd like 'em

Like that you were able to run while spinslahing at others was crazy

[quick hinge]

The speak and staff

Was aids

If u fought someone good with them

It was gg

[timber cipher]

personally chinese people with fan and katana/heng sword were just ...

i wasnt as good with the katana so didnt bother that much, also took a lot of stamina to use, so if you made some bad decisions you got combod easily

like there are crouch attack air stagger combos

[quick hinge]

Ptsd

[timber cipher]

that are just rough

i played that in ranked quite a bit

but i get what you mean with spear

i got good with it and the range is really annoying

[quick hinge]

I was never good for ranked

My friend got me into it

[timber cipher]

takes a little of practise, not that hard of a fighting game, but the first days i really loved dagger and 2hander and just spammed the 2hander charge attack

but the counter/block to drop weapons

[quick hinge]

I

Hated thatsht

Sometimes I wouldn't even notice my weapon was gone

And just start throwing hands

[timber cipher]

yea, if they hav e space in their inventory you dont just drop it, they steal it automatically

[quick hinge]

[timber cipher]

learned to do it consistently, because timing is not that hard if you have a good ping, but damn early on i remember the struggle

espacially if you have only ranged weapons in inventory left and get staggerd

or if people start to stagger combo with like grapple ground attack, crounch attack and such so that you fly up in the air and never recover

god bless falling down on the ground in that game

[fathom raptor]

Is there a start guide anywhere?

[frigid willow]

For the love of this game please spam the https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1305828568609329193 channel with golden frontier feedback

Please

They no way put a p2w into that shit

[slow umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-swipe-gif-10863986

Yes

I think if you actually check pins there are some things

[plucky fulcrum]

W

[frigid willow]

I think half of the America thinks this is not AI

[cloud wing]

[vocal dew]

Why no one not crying when 1 guild at server taking the best players?

[swift depot]

@timber cipher or @old laurel can you log in s157 rq? I am over 12 hrs, so could you tap my clock globe in guild grounds pls

[old laurel]

Sure

Wait

[timber cipher]

sure

[swift depot]

thx

[broken glade]

heard they made golden frontier p2w

[frigid willow]

Normal behaviour from Lilith

[broken glade]

idk first time i see them add actual p2w to a mode

[swift depot]

Time Rift

[broken glade]

well its just a frame

u can get actual rewards without spending

[swift depot]

well, technically its the same here

just dont get into the neighboring league to the dominant alliance

[broken glade]

eh this is a pvp mode

its way worse

also gonna affect your rewards from cities

[cloud wing]

I’m considering quitting if there’s not a major stir up to PVP by end of month

This pvp system has felt like a constant slap in the face, and while some folks, like @quick hinge don’t mind it, it’s gotten to the point where im finding it not worth it to try anymore for the game

[quick hinge]

Why me

[cloud wing]

Because you’ve expressed how the game is worth spending money on, and you’re a known whale

[cloud wing]

It’s not really feeling…..worth it

[magic tree]

They will keep making all worse

They = Devs

Perpetuated by whales burning money in no matter what they do though

I love seeing when some whale decides to quit and reimburse a good bunch of thousands USD

[cloud wing]

A person with an Arthur pfp decided to preach to me in-game about resource management

As if I don’t do that already

[magic tree]

Lol

[cloud wing]

It truly does anger me. Legitimately want to give him a piece of my mind

[magic tree]

Quite common amidst spenders. Somehow they truly believe they are better at the game, neglectibg the fact of how power was exchanged for money 🤑

[cloud wing]

Slightly more positive note:

A5 Sonja

[ebon sand]

🎉

I still make heavy use of her at ch42, good in the back, good on the frontline, DPS, support, just does everything

[frigid willow]

Still my main carry in LB tower

[swift depot]

We reeeally need them to announce another woke hero

[frigid willow]

Lilith rn

[tardy musk]

I got a message telling me I need to complete a captcha, does anyone know if I can find that anywhere?

[magic tree]

Find what?

[tardy musk]

Like the "prove you're not a robot" thing. For the server. There doesn't appear to be one despite the automated message I got

[magic tree]

Oh Discord. I don't know sorry

[tardy musk]

Alright

I probably sent this in the wrong channel but Idk what the right one is

[prisma ember]

think you should be fine now if youre able to chat here

captcha wasnt showing for me too then later I just suddenly has access to the channels

[tardy musk]

Yeah it was just kinda confusing being told I had to do something I didn't have to do

[prisma ember]

Actually left the server like twice and tweaked my dm settings wondering if it's cause of that

but later just automatically got access to channel anyways

confusing af as newcomer

[ebon sand]

nothing here and in recommended, does that mean nobody actually beat that one? I'm surprised I can't see any of the krakens replays here

[silent ravine]

It only recommends people in ur guild or friends

[cloud wing]

I did my initial push into the ladder, reached 229

[swift depot]

@agile steeple you know about this?

[dusty olive]

How good is marcille in snow map🤔

[tranquil pewter]

Maximum bad guys

[lucid summit]

idk but fulll dim team is strong. I was bullied so hard by Full Dim team 1 v 5. My whole arena comps were swept up like they were nothing

[agile steeple]

You have to leave and rejoin the server. If you continue to have the same issue, please message modmail

[ebon sand]

That's probably the most dmg I've ever done while still losing, this squad is making me go crazy

[quick hinge]

It's not

[quick hinge]

Seems u are the furthest in Wilder tower

Everyone stuck on 411

[robust spire]

Need Awakened Lyca

[civic verge]

Oh is Yom = Berkiel?

@quick hinge

[quick hinge]

Mhm

[civic verge]

Ahh

[quick hinge]

Figured that out the other day

[civic verge]

Idk how they beat 415

But my green blob is not nearly as useful

As theirs

Like u got every buff

[silent ravine]

I kinda stopped looking at campaign clears cuz it recommends shit that I can’t have

[quick hinge]

[quick hinge]

I haven't upgraded any of mine

[silent ravine]

Try sorting by popular if nothing else works

[quick hinge]

413 atm

[silent ravine]

There’s the weird slump in campaign where the f2p aren’t there, but the whales are

So the clears I have have like +120 rc on me

[quick hinge]

Sorts by lowest power

So whales tend to always be shown

[ebon sand]

Yeah I'm Berkiel, I was surprised with the wilders win at the tower tbh, I wish I had as much success with 42-28

[silent ravine]

You guys don’t have popular sort?

[quick hinge]

We do

[ebon sand]

The 4th squad is going to make me insane

[quick hinge]

In arena?

[ebon sand]

Nah a campaign stage

[quick hinge]

[silent ravine]

The average tower experience on classic

[ebon sand]

This

[quick hinge]

300 lower

[quick hinge]

Campaign started to be boring

So haven't touched it

[silent ravine]

The spike from 13m to 540m is a experience fr

[ebon sand]

Everybody that beat it used Arthur to stall and Ainz to nuke so I've been trying other things as I don't have Arthur but no dice

[silent ravine]

Can I see ur other 3 teams

[quick hinge]

1b

[quick hinge]

Who's

[silent ravine]

His

Maybe he’s over investing on one team

[quick hinge]

@ebon sand

[silent ravine]

I may not cook in pvp, but campaign I can cook a lil

[quick hinge]

[ebon sand]

Oh sorry, I'm in the process of starting from scratch again and even beating the first 3 squads takes a lot of retries

[quick hinge]

Peppa thoughts?

[silent ravine]

What in demonic hell is that last team

[ebon sand]

I like it xD

[quick hinge]

Left overs

It's supposed to kill the back line

But none of them are high enough

My audrae is 0* and gwen is 3*

Estrilda is 1*

[civic verge]

This might be the most dmg I done in a tower stage without winning

[quick hinge]

Poor thorn

[ebon sand]

Orthos ftw

[quick hinge]

U might need a feral

[ebon sand]

I made some progress in towers today, GB too, at 387 rn but I don't think I can do better

[quick hinge]

I'm still stuck in everything

[ebon sand]

I guess I should try pushing the standard one

[silent ravine]

Tower is just rc issue after a while

[ebon sand]

What's your RC lvl at, Selen?

[quick hinge]

625

[ebon sand]

Yeah that's crazy!

[civic verge]

Sorry what is RC? Combat rating?

[quick hinge]

Resonating crystal

Pretty much what is your hero lvls

[ebon sand]

Sorry I was in-game, ty for the reply

[civic verge]

💕✨

Of course

[quick hinge]

Tran Sig 30 Thane

Hand him over

[civic verge]

My weakest factions are celestials and hypogeans tho

Due to scamgazer trauma

[ebon sand]

I feel that

[civic verge]

Wasted 600 SC cards on only getting twins to mythic

Made me stop buying them and focus on other things

[ebon sand]

Yeah I think it's better to only do short pulling sesh

[civic verge]

I’m a hoarder by nature

Waiting for a meta breaking celestial or hypogean

Something worth the cost

[ebon sand]

I wish I could hoard a bit but I'm always short on everything, day one maxed chars is something I'll probably never manage

My biggest struggle remains gear fodders

I always feel like I'm 10 chars behind then new op ones releases, adding to the backlog of unfinished chars

[civic verge]

Game is practically begging you to spend a lot to keep up especially with resources.

I definitely get the struggle with gear enhancement material

That’s one thing I don’t hoard cus it’s always needed

[ebon sand]

Yeah I don't understand why they don't give us more sources for it but I thought I was alone struggling

When the new dims released I was still finishing Mira

[cloud wing]

Hit the scripted quad pull on the alt

[south finch]

Nice

[ebon vale]

I have an extra return ticket that I can't use. I don't even know how. Will the event never disappear now?

[verbal forge]

whos the next hero zaph ?

[icy robin]

ANOTHER SCAMGAZING CHARACTER

OH BOY

[worldly bison]

Is there an option to change email in my account?

[verbal forge]

well ofc log in on the lilith account thing and you can after

[floral perch]

Wait scripted? We have those?

[worldly bison]

I found a site where I can unlink email, fb and etc, it's lilith account center

But if I unlink email can I link another then

[silent ravine]

Was this with spending or completely f2p?

That’s a lot

[verbal forge]

if its zaph he will be proly best pvp hero curently

ofc he will need to be a5 but he will delete backlines

[glad wren]

anyway trash hero 🙂

[maiden hare]

You can’t use classic logic here, zaph should be pretty good, 100% better then Lucretia if she doesn’t get some hard rework

Meta and usage is completely different here and I believe the “most broken heroes” won’t be that mega broken here because of nerfs, we shouldn’t see that much of a power creep here as in classic

But with p2w gf everything can change now

[hollow flume]

[quick hinge]

[magic tree]

GF just created a new whole market of people willing to sell accounts on S1 rofl

God's work for those willing to spend and instantly getting months of work done with the S1 tag

Moronic developers must be working as saboteurs for other games by killing Companions like this

[wet aspen]

I just started playing, which unit should I go for?

Like a carry dps unit

[hollow flume]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1301259004407971840

check pinned msg on that channel for more info

u should focus on Trishea, Mira, Solise.

[quick hinge]

Buying and selling is banable

[magic tree]

Tbh, I don't blame them given the circumstances as time goes by

[maiden hare]

If you are dumb enough to do it here, yeah

[quick hinge]

Comapreing he's already listing it here an on another dc

[maiden hare]

Well what can I say other then, natural selection

[quick hinge]

U gonna build zaph?

[maiden hare]

Nah, since im full f2p SG card income is like nonexistent so I’m waiting for liberta or other bs hero

[maiden hare]

I’m not gonna build anything other then bs heroes now tbh😂 gonna need to stack DS cards for new collab, if they really do it every 4-5 months

[twin marsh]

How many sg do you have ready?

[maiden hare]

After I get that stupid trishea to 5* I’m gonna probably stop pulling everything and just hoard everything, don’t need the rgb stars on heroes

[maiden hare]

450 or something like that, after audrae scammed me

[twin marsh]

Lmfao that’s rough

Talene is still scamming me

Even after 4 months

[maiden hare]

I got x10 time audrae on 60 or 65 pull 😂

[twin marsh]

I’ve given up on sg entirely tbh

[maiden hare]

You can do it now, after they start releasing broken heroes in SG you gonna feel the need to quit

[twin marsh]

No way in hell I’ll ever be able to build a celehypo other than Talene

[maiden hare]

Well as f2p, not counting the 1st time rewards for campaign and towers etc. you will need about 8-10 months for a ascended/A1* cele/hypo

1 year for 5* if you get lucky 😂

[twin marsh]

Ye

I’ve been F2P for around 1 month and a half

It’s been rough

[worldly bison]

lmao I called liliths morons and their game garbage and still not banned lol. Another proof they don't read "suggestions" channel)))) And this too lol

Two people are selling accounts on s1. Both are topper accounts. Contact me or Montes for details.

[lament spindle]

Is the redeem code site of lillith broken ? It isnt opening

[maiden hare]

Tbh, accounts in this game are worthless, you are probably better with just refunding the last 2 weeks worth of purcharses (if you got any)

or you go the long route and try to refund the last 6 months (if you live in EU) idk about US on that one

[worldly bison]

Unfortunately one of these accounts donated with mythryl so seems there's no refund option

[maiden hare]

if you didn't bought anything from their website, if you bought mithril you can't do anything

[maiden hare]

yeah that's a lost case

[maiden hare]

'donated' is such a funny word used here

[alpine saffron]

So arena got harder but the rewards hasn’t changed? That’s bogus

[silent ravine]

Yeah lucretia had the issue of being ass without 5p in pvp

Zappy is more a flex unit, he’s definitely skippable, but you will get your mileage out of him

[royal heron]

Why I have to fight against a server 10 numbers lower than were I’m at. The top are always them they have teams transcend. Is a not sense

[silent ravine]

They fucked up GF that bad?

[slim ibex]

Golden Frontier is gone or something

[hollow flume]

you will see it again after the update

[oblique trellis]

it says in the patch it'd start at reset but it didn't show still

coping

[potent root]

I got it!

Ready for new celestial

[alpine saffron]

Lame

Did the new update straight kill everyone active in here? So depressing, how greedy is lilith? Lmao

[slow umbra]

I've seen folks change their account names to for sale

[cloud wing]

Got to 2nd, but first is a whale with full Transcendant/SI30

I broke his first 2 teams….

[alpine saffron]

I averaged first, now I won’t get that along with less rewards compared to what I was getting 🤮

[cloud wing]

@quick hinge you see?

[quick hinge]

?

[cloud wing]

I reached top 5 early on

However, as a FTP, I lack the SI and * to be able to handle 4, almost 5, full pvp teams of whales

Here’s our N1

[civic verge]

Grats Tank!!! 💪💜✨

[quick hinge]

He got kicked

[cloud wing]

Kasu!

[stoic pilot]

Weird. I wonder why he got kicked. It must be because his twins are only SI20.

[inland flame]

Is it possible ?

[cloud wing]

Orthros

[stoic pilot]

Orthros is so awesome.

[inland flame]

Yes

So any ideas ?

[stoic pilot]

Check the formations button in the bottom right corner if you haven't already. I think you might not have the right heroes. I would try and place Crassio above Brutus. Failing that, I would leave Mauler tower until you have leveled up your heroes more. Mauler tower can be really tough to progress in...

[inland flame]

Ye I’ve checked them but I miss skreg and sleight

Skriath

[stoic pilot]

It's also kind of important to check the SIs on the formations that cleared the level. I can see you have activated the SIs on your guys, but none of them are at SI10 or higher. The clears in formations are often by big spenders how have leveled up the SIs. Try to look for a clear with low SIs.

If you weren't already doing that...

[inland flame]

Ye I’ve done everything that’s why I asked here

[stoic pilot]

I guess levelling up is the way to go then.

Good luck. 👍

[inland flame]

Thx

[grave pollen]

Is the battle pass worth purchasing? (The odyssey one)

[grizzled parrot]

What about the new update got people discontented?

[icy robin]

Omg the servers are down! I cant play any other game

Afk arena is my life

[silent ravine]

Their rgm is now cross region

[maiden hare]

Anyone building zaphrael here?

[ebon sand]

Not me

[silent ravine]

Kasu

[ebon sand]

I need one more star on my Audrae so I'll finish that first, I'm mildly interested in knowing if Zaph takes priority before Athalia, I doubt it but who knows

[glad wren]

Well, Zaph possible a good hero in companions, but I'll save my sg for something else 🙂

[hollow flume]

Tank44

[quick hinge]

Tank

[quick hinge]

^

[hollow flume]

Wrong channel Sir

you should ask in here https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/565578751715573770

[ebon sand]

Finally!!!!

[mystic kite]

Thanks and sorry

[icy robin]

@quick hinge Master should I summon the bow wilder chick to max her ascension out

[quick hinge]

Hm

[icy robin]

Also master do you recommend summoning for new Sg?

[quick hinge]

Do u need Belinda Still?

[icy robin]

The celestial wilder dude

🤔 umm i sont think so

[quick hinge]

Hell no

[icy robin]

Yes master 🥺

[hollow flume]

[quick hinge]

Then do lyca

[icy robin]

Thank you for your guidance!

[quick hinge]

[alpine saffron]

Golden frontier not being f2p friendly

[simple quail]

What about the game mode is not f2p??

[alpine saffron]

Spending money for buffs for your teams, unfair advantage

[frigid willow]

Right now I enjoy classic more than companion

Also, how good is Zaph with Zol A1

?

[simple quail]

Is this from people on test server or where does that information comes from?

[molten kraken]

Test server

There was a whole bunch of screenshots

I wish I had them

[civic verge]

Has people tested the buffs yet and how much of a difference they make in golden frontier?

Really? What kind of testing have you done so far?

[inland flame]

Thoughts on new hero

[civic verge]

Ooo that’s a great write-up! Thank you Blob! Good to know, I’m definitely waiting to spend SG until they release something worth the $

[frigid willow]

At least let us see it? So we know you don’t spread misinformation

[civic verge]

Thank u 🙏 you rock

[worldly bison]

Any server with higher damage on current DR boss?

[ebon sand]

I did 23B something but only did one attempt as long as nobody tops me I'm good with it

[serene field]

@maiden hare

[alpine saffron]

Yes

[quick hinge]

Not 361 yet but doing 20b atm

[maiden hare]

yeah sums up what I thought, he should work in campaign with one copy (just for stunning backline, if you want some dmg out you need him invested), main usage will be pvp

[maiden hare]

I could potentially hit 23B if rng was on my side, probably about ~25B if I had 5* trishea, so with T2* heroes you should be able to hit for 30B+

but 26B is nevertheless high, I saw 24B last round but we didn't had Marille and Laios

[frigid willow]

I think my guy Yamada will hit more

I’m waiting to see him hit

But he usually tries a lot in test server before hitting here

[twin marsh]

Holy shit

[alpine saffron]

Different tax bracket

[twin marsh]

Deadass

[obsidian meteor]

I've been keeping stargazer cards for a while now until someone worth appears in companions but so far ive heard that Zaphrael is just ok. What do you guys think?

[frigid willow]

skip

[obsidian meteor]

Haha again huh? Is there anyone in the game worth spending stargazers on? I don't know maybe Talene?

[frigid willow]

If you are impatient and can’t wait yea

Talene, Audrae

But if they keep releasing classic celehypos

Alna would be the best to get

Because she is still meta in classic

After a lot of years

[civic verge]

Ayo that’s me LOL

[cloud wing]

Kasu hasn’t been visiting

I need someone to bully for whaling

Thank you for volunteering

[civic verge]

I’m not a whale look at my celestials

Kasu bby come back

[cloud wing]

A5 Talene

Whale

[civic verge]

@ebon sand

I caught upppp

You are two levels below me tho

[ebon sand]

Nice, congratulations 🎉

I just got my Audrae to 5 ⭐, only my 2nd cele that high after Talene

I'm missing a mythic weapon and SI30, still working on the dims gear :/

[quick hinge]

Was with someone today

[ebon sand]

I also finished FF 42 earlier 🎉

[frigid willow]

Floor 418 and the reward is gold

For sure you are gold walled

[civic verge]

Ooo grats Y0mmmm! I’m so jealous! But I’m also happy for u ❤️

[civic verge]

Lilith so generous with these rewards amiright

[lilac field]

wow

[hot hollow]

is the new guy worth pulling ?

[swift depot]

Not really, read above

[swift depot]

I wanted Faction towers to give dust like in classic, but that was before meeting the exp wall

[silent ravine]

The only reason classic tolerates the rate of what they release wokes is cuz they gave out timegazers in tower

[ebon sand]

Thank you! I must say my experience with scam gazing hasn't been too bad but I'm not taking it for granted either

[lusty plank]

Rare productive day in companions

Most days I just find myself doing nothing lmao

Damn game refuses to give me Mira copies…

I jus want my fully ascended screenshot 💔

[swift depot]

Have you been getting use from Thesku lately?

[lusty plank]

Oh hell naw, he fell off

Maulers in general suck

Weakest tower for me (shocker)

I could use an AwBrutus about now…

[potent root]

Hmmm

Hi all❤️

[twin marsh]

Finally someone that also doesn’t have a crazy Trish

[potent root]

Mine is almost crazy🫣🍻

[spice fiber]

@potent root where’s the 5* awakened Talene

[potent root]

Soon my friend. Need more stargazing

[spice fiber]

Want me to give u mine?

[potent root]

Hahahah I'll have it soon enough I imagine. Hopefully 2 weeks

[potent root]

Jesus! Thats i think enough for 5 star

[spice fiber]

Yeah but no one worth pulling atm

[potent root]

Someone said 600 star gazing just gets hero to awakened?

[twin marsh]

Holy shit lmao

Give me some copies

[golden moat]

It’s accurate enough. I’ve gone 751 for Flora A1.

Albeit I had some horrible back to back luck and definitely no double pulls.

[vocal dew]

So for what hero you're waiting

[hollow flume]

I mean 1 copy costs 50 SG on average. A1 = 16 copies.
So 50 x (16 - 1 free copy) = 750. Only 1 more card than expected

[golden moat]

I’ve heard average is around 31 last I checked but it could have just been misinfo.

Good enough I guess if the average is 50.

Although the last 4 copies were 51, 57, 59, 54.

So ngl scamgazer is doing the most to mess with me.

[hollow flume]

[potent root]

So yea 1k star gazing seems like a lot but goes SOOO quick

Second triple Transcended in Companions😭💗

[spice fiber]

@vocal dew unsure but no harm saving them

@potent root nice!! Got t2 gear?

[potent root]

No....barely tier one😔....being on S117 im behind on gear compared to early servers

[spice fiber]

Ah rip

[quick hinge]

Nice little combat boost for Tran 3*

[potent root]

Yea for sure

[spice fiber]

T2 weapon at least next event! Hopefully

[civic verge]

WOOOO congrats tank! 💪

Idk I feel like the boost from T2 is not that much tbh

[potent root]

Hiii strongest person in all of companions 🍻🌄🌄🌄

[civic verge]

LOOL you’re looking into a miror Tank!

I’ll always be a big fan tho

🫶

I was missing tank updates

I’m glad I can get them here

[quick hinge]

[potent root]

I consider you me and zypher top 3

I don't know how to rank us one over the other though.

[potent root]

Big fan of yours also!

[timber cipher]

humble bee

[potent root]

43-21 for twisted fate is killing me. I spent 3 to 5 hours on it yesterday trying everything

Can't get it to work. Zep cleared it with ainz team no idea how. Mine is no where near as strong as his

[timber cipher]

87 level diff with Flora and Tasi

[timber cipher]

Ainz is most of the times magicpen + critluck

And against Flora, Tasi its also rng that neither of them bursts hit Ainz. Prob a lot of retries

if you are able to rewatch battle you could also check whether his ainz survived 15s for his passive effect with the 50% hp loss + 4s stun to affect the enemies

[ebon sand]

I reached 43 in FF yesterday and just beating the 1st mono squad fight was insane, everyone who beat it used Arthur so it took me a lot of tinkering, I haven't even bothered with the next fight yet

[quick hinge]

That nemora and flora

Is quite rough

Then u got shem one ultiing the entire team

[timber cipher]

the main problem is tasi

because tasi warping makes killing flora hard

[potent root]

Thats the biggest issue

[potent root]

My ainz never lasts past 15s seconds...

[ebon sand]

Yes!!! I just cleared it easy peasy after improving 2 chars

[timber cipher]

I believe from what I've seen on retries and power score, that Zephyr is autobattling for hours and hours ^^

You can look at his team does his AInz have more t2 gear?

[timber cipher]

Damn wp - didnt push so far yet, a lot of responsibilities, you've ran past me ^^

[potent root]

Oh yea his solo team is absolutely incredible

Its hard to replicate it

In hind sight I'd hope I could use my audrae in his place

[timber cipher]

Thats quite the stacked comp, to have 2x t2s on Ainz already as well ^^

There is always the option to "+35 / +40" value units ... but oof thats really pricey in terms of emblems for small boosts

[quick hinge]

T2 just comes with time

I forget what server he's on but I think he's a few months ahead of u

[potent root]

Imma try running my audrae in Ainz spot maybe I can get lucky. Cuss I give no shot my ainz can survive like his can

[potent root]

Server 21

[quick hinge]

Earlier then I thought

What day are u on now tank?

[timber cipher]

Might be, would also try arthur then if he gets to live through for long enough

[quick hinge]

Also sig 35

[ebon sand]

Thanks, I felt like I'd never make it if I didn't improve my LB horse girl so I whaled her last star and a chest for mythic gear that I split with Audrae to have her fully geared

[potent root]

How do I check? Believe im in 70s. @timber cipher yea probably worth a try with aruthur. But who to remove is issue.

[timber cipher]

from +30 to +35 265 emblems (for the next half milestone upgrade)
from +30 to +40 820 emblems

[quick hinge]

The daily login for the free scrolls

[potent root]

Pretty audrae

[timber cipher]

daily scrolls

[ebon sand]

Thanks! I might push her to SI 30 later but I finally decided to do it for Lyca, so... It'll wait a while

[quick hinge]

I'm probably done spending btw

Game got to boring for me

[timber cipher]

comp is probably

Mira/Salaki/Marcille/Ferael/Pippa
Talene
Albedo
Arthur
Audrae

[timber cipher]

am a bit busy with life atm, but will prob spend on every big event for the special deal cost

You could also try greeding albedo in the upper corner and buffing both backliners by putting

Mira/Salaki/Marcille/Ferael/Pippa in center

but then Flora pathing will be probably always very fast on Audrae

and Tasi tp could hit both backliners

[potent root]

Don't leave me😭

[quick hinge]

I don't plan on quitting

Just not spending

[potent root]

Imma try each situation
...closest I've come is using mira

[timber cipher]

I really like the game and am a long time player so im not burned out on spending --- but its good to manage your finances better :>

Im not rich either so beside the big events, I already burned out. Bc there are almost no pop-ups for me and I was the pop-up guy

[potent root]

Im at day 79

What day are you all?

[quick hinge]

Well with the new gf it moved me away from wanting to spend anymore

I don't plan on leaving

I still like to collect

[quick hinge]

S21 is probably close to 200 if not past it

[quick hinge]

124

[timber cipher]

time sure flies, 114

[verbal forge]

whos the next hero on test ?

[civic verge]

Day 123 lol how is Kasu’s account almost the same age as mine

[potent root]

Thats crazy wtf😅

[verbal forge]

wait wtf next hero is lucy ?

damn sad she wont be what she was on clasic

[molten kraken]

Still going to be carrying campaign for a while

Unless Lilith reworks her entirely

[molten kraken]

I’m in s8 and I’m only on 194 lol

[quick hinge]

Lucrita

[quick hinge]

Bc your 2 serves behind me

That's like 1 day

[quick hinge]

124

[lusty plank]

Damn I expected a larger gap

With your server

[molten kraken]

So did I tbh 😭

[lusty plank]

So 1 is only in early 200s

[molten kraken]

Sounds about right

[lusty plank]

How does your hero box look like for being on day 194?

[molten kraken]

Sorry in advance if I send the wrong image but you mean this right

[lusty plank]

If Lilith decides to let me get copies for stars i’ll roid her up

SI30 and t1

[lusty plank]

Yup

[molten kraken]

I’m F2P so for what it’s worth I’m doing okay it seems

[lusty plank]

I don’t even have a full screenshot of ascended heroes yet lol

I’m super conservative with my choices tho

I never use non fodder heroes as fodder

I noticed a lot do

I’d rather play the long game

[molten kraken]

Same

[lusty plank]

It’s why my power is at 268M cause I hoard a lot

[molten kraken]

Yh that’s good tbh

I recommend more players do that

[lusty plank]

I just messed up at the start by never buying SI sigils

From events and the store

So I’m behind on that

Altho i’m hoarding close to 600 red chests

[magic tree]

S1 day 1

[molten kraken]

Yhhh trust me it’s worth it

[lusty plank]

For something needed

[lusty plank]

Damn that’s much further away than s8

[molten kraken]

Yh tbh I thought It would be 210

[magic tree]

Servers 1 to 7 were beta

Then, on release they just started from 8th

[lusty plank]

How does this look for you two?

Especially curious about @montes

The average must be way higher

[lusty plank]

My server only has like 3 spenders

[lusty plank]

Your last guy would be 15 here lol

[lusty plank]

Menirz 🐳

Did he stop spending?

[molten kraken]

Yep

[lusty plank]

I noticed he’s not at 380

He used to be the 2nd biggest whale

Behind Yippy

[molten kraken]

Your correct

[lusty plank]

Second to have an AwTalene

RIP, but it’s to be expected

Boring game

[molten kraken]

It’s because of the state of the game rn

[lusty plank]

I only spent $60

[molten kraken]

If it was more productive maybe menirz would’ve been above tank

[lusty plank]

Altho i’m gonna spend a bit more to get 90k diamonds from those one time deals

Cause I wanna get the new dims maxed

But that’s it

[molten kraken]

Yh that’s fair

[lusty plank]

Our server’s highest RC

[molten kraken]

I kinda regret my choices with the dims tbh 😅

[lusty plank]

Well I noticed your Ainz is 4 stars and SI 20

[potent root]

Beautiful

[lusty plank]

He kinda needs to have the full package

Si 30 and 5 stars

He’s way too demanding

[molten kraken]

Very

[lusty plank]

And on top of that he needs an SI 30 Albedo

I took a risk and never built him

Hoping Marcille will work better

[molten kraken]

And she is

[lusty plank]

Seems like it paid off so i’m happy

I’m a classic veteran and Ainz’s reign was insane

In 2020-2021

[molten kraken]

So true

[lusty plank]

I’m so glad he alr fell off here

[molten kraken]

He’s still viable for PvP only it seems

[potent root]

This leaderboard doesn't matter its the training leaderboard to gives it based on highest star of each hero

They gonna be different. Because fodder

Fodder on my account is equal to 240 mil power😅

Or just about

[potent root]

He's still very viable in campaign

[molten kraken]

Interesting 🤔

[potent root]

Huge fan btw🍻♥️💗

[lusty plank]

Tank biggest 🐳 confirmed

[molten kraken]

By far

[lusty plank]

One more of those events where u can basically buy XP and he’ll be at RC 450 lol

[potent root]

Selene is a bigger whale just doesn't show it

[lusty plank]

[molten kraken]

Humble

Selen just a kind soul

[lusty plank]

Bamzar and Tank would have been the ultimate kraken competition

It’s a shame Bam quit

His profile is still insane just too lazy to find ss

[molten kraken]

Soooo many op players quit

[magic tree]

Yes, many

[potent root]

Yea he was almost transcended 2 in 10 days

[molten kraken]

It’s kinda sad tbh

[magic tree]

And way more with the last GF

and it still didn't even land live servers

[lusty plank]

Yippy seems like he will quit

Keeps going offline for a few days

I have him added

[molten kraken]

Damn

[magic tree]

He is gone already

[molten kraken]

Yh wow

[lusty plank]

RIP

My goat gone…

💔

[molten kraken]

It’s understandable tbh

[lusty plank]

I think you should take over classic now @potent root

[molten kraken]

The game it’s more like a chore

[lusty plank]

You’ve already beaten companions 😂

[molten kraken]

Basically 😂

[lusty plank]

It’ll just cost a “little” more

[molten kraken]

At this rate he will be the first at chapter 60

[potent root]

Hell noooo. I'd be very very tiny whale there

[lusty plank]

One guy called JULIUS from Korea spent like a million

From what some ppl said

The rc is at like 1170 there

[molten kraken]

That can’t be 1M USD

I refuse to believe that

[lusty plank]

It’s possible

He has everything at SI 40

And all the special ones at si 50

Even shitty heroes like Wu Kong

[molten kraken]

[lusty plank]

They fr gotta add the labyrinth here lol

It’s getting absurd

[molten kraken]

Yh fr

Postponed for the longest time

[lusty plank]

And it’s obvious they aren’t adding another awakened hero

[molten kraken]

It’s like they forgot

[lusty plank]

They probably regret it

With Solise

Being so op and easy to get

[magic tree]

It was the catch for people to switch

[lusty plank]

Or at least not without adding some currency

[magic tree]

"Come, free Wokes in companions"

Now, players, nearly 1 year after, like junkies waiting for the new free dose of woke

[lusty plank]

And it’ll be one from the hypogean faction 😂

Which only 10 players will get

[molten kraken]

😂😂

[lusty plank]

Awakened heroes are just too broken for companions

Having more of them would make stuff too easy

Even the worst awakened in classic is still strong

It’s a mess

[lusty plank]

For companion standards

[molten kraken]

That’s true tbh

[lusty plank]

Lucretia seems like the first truly op hero they will add here

But it seems she won’t work unless she’s 5 stars and si 30

She used to be such a carry for me back in 2021-2022

[molten kraken]

Same

But I recently swapped her with Lucila

[lusty plank]

Btw i’ve never bothered to ask but are engravings and furni effects in divinity effects?

[molten kraken]

Now I have every relevant cel/hypo built in classic

[lusty plank]

Or are engraving skills completely missing

[lusty plank]

Me too, I finished Knox today

[molten kraken]

Ws

Divine effects are like engravings from classic

I still believe we’re gonna get something similar to furniture in the future

Just not engraving

Due to transcendence

Tbh that would look cool

An E80 transcended

But I believe it won’t happen sadly