companions-chat

[ebon sand]

finally 🙂

[quick hinge]

Mines still 0*

[ebon sand]

that was the quickest 5* I randomly got, I got a free mauler from clears cuz I used up the other factions already, Salaki, afk chest=>enough for a x10 pull, Salaki again

[lusty plank]

THE CHICKEN

[quick hinge]

Fancy chicken

[old laurel]

I think I'm still 3 chickens off ascended 🥲

[ebon sand]

Chicken pimp

[quick hinge]

Go back to class

[old laurel]

I'm only in 2 days a week

I'm off today

[quick hinge]

[old laurel]

Mondays Tuesdays

I'm free the rest of the week

[ebon sand]

This skin is cool though, it changes from the usual waifu getting hotter with a skin

[quick hinge]

Bs college

[old laurel]

😭

[quick hinge]

I thought that sht wa every day

[old laurel]

Nah its classed as full time education too 😭

[quick hinge]

[old laurel]

I have way too much free time tbf

[quick hinge]

Go work

[old laurel]

I would if I could

[quick hinge]

Wym

[old laurel]

Trying to find part time work has been a nightmare atleast near me and I'm unable to drive yet so I can't really go too far out of my area

[quick hinge]

Buy an electric scooter

[old laurel]

Or bike, atleast that way it'd keep me fit

[quick hinge]

Fit u say

[old laurel]

Is that not the word 😭

Like healthy

[quick hinge]

Ik

[old laurel]

I'm too British

[quick hinge]

[old laurel]

[quick hinge]

Agreed

[old laurel]

You're more British then me

U drink twa

Tea

You can't be speaking

[quick hinge]

Twa

[old laurel]

Always making fun of my spelling

Shithead

[quick hinge]

Die

[old laurel]

Love you too lil shit

[old laurel]

How long does ur breaks last

[meager void]

what banner should i spend gems? regular one or new banner copies?

[quick hinge]

?

Like I told u before

I make my own schedule

[old laurel]

I forgot, my memory horrendous

[quick hinge]

This team finally fooking worked

Lyca hard carry

[old laurel]

Atleast kren wasn't utterly useless

Level 57 deficit

[quick hinge]

Die

[old laurel]

I can barely do 20

[quick hinge]

20?

[old laurel]

Level deficit

[plucky fulcrum]

Did you guys see the article stating woke people are more likely to be depressed?

[plucky fulcrum]

I’m almost to lvl 360 what happens when all characters are 360 how do u level up? Same as classic?

[quick hinge]

Ah

[quick hinge]

Mhm

[old laurel]

Big nub

Nearly finished chapter 34

[quick hinge]

She nuked everyone

[old laurel]

I think if I spend a decent bit I get marci maxed

[quick hinge]

Don't think the vid will load

[old laurel]

I'm 11souls off max

But I'll see how much I need near the end of the event

Hate orthos

[old laurel]

Jesus

Marci seems so good with laios

[magic tree]

Laios or Ainz 1st?

[old laurel]

[glad wren]

if you have Marci, then Laios for sure

[magic tree]

I should get up to 23 spirit before this ends

[glad wren]

laios M

[magic tree]

So either A5 ainz A0 laios or viceversa

[glad wren]

and Si20)

minimum

[magic tree]

So you saying that Ainz A5 higher prio than Laios a5?

[glad wren]

nope) You have only 10 spirits, so its better to make Laios for Marci

[magic tree]

But I will have 23

By the end

[glad wren]

I have A5* Ainz and I would say he is weaker then Marci A5

[magic tree]

That's why I can fully a5 laios

[glad wren]

go for it

[magic tree]

Or use 10 to a5 ainz and 13 to a0 laios

[molten kraken]

You always have the option to stargaze don’t forget

It’s not ideal

[magic tree]

Dumbest option on planet

[glad wren]

lol)

haha

[molten kraken]

Like I said it’s not the best plan

But it’s definitely an option

[magic tree]

Not at all

[glad wren]

I bet Lai A5 Si30 is really good option

[molten kraken]

Otherwise 5* ainz

[quick hinge]

[glad wren]

I like Ainz, but... looks like he's off the team now

[quick hinge]

Ainz is sht

Imo

[molten kraken]

Currently still viable tbh

[magic tree]

He is quite good in snow map

[molten kraken]

Very

[magic tree]

I dont have him but seen others and he's nuts there

Marcille so far being quite inconsistent for me at A5 si20 without Laios or with him at E as helper

But I wont have enough to finish Ainz and build Laios, so I must chose carefully

[molten kraken]

If only you had Arthur

[magic tree]

In some months

[old laurel]

Ur making me tempt spending more

By showing marci and laios

[magic tree]

F rng

Trishea last to grow up

[quick hinge]

Spend then

[old laurel]

I'll spend on the last day

Hopefully rng is nice to me now

[quick hinge]

I hope it's not

[old laurel]

700 and only 12 spirits

[quick hinge]

Got my second double on 1700

[old laurel]

Lucky bastard

I did get a double after I pulled some more

I think selene hasn't gottena double yet

[quick hinge]

I've only had 3 ever

[old laurel]

My overlord luck was pretty good I think, I got a few doubles and even a triple, this dimension banner was just abysmal

[quick hinge]

Die

[old laurel]

Hey you can't be complaining after this banner

You got like 35 in 870pulls

[quick hinge]

45

[old laurel]

Yeah with the guarantees tho

That's just

I have no words

Give me ur luck

[quick hinge]

Due

[old laurel]

💔

Pull on my account pls

I need ur luck

🙏

[ebon sand]

I finally beat that cursed one

[vocal dew]

how tf

[ebon sand]

Noooooo, I got a network error, wtf, I'm on PC on optical fiber watching YT at the same time 😒

shit, I restarted the game and ofc it didn't save it, it took so many retries...

at least I know a comp that works VS all 5 teams now, I guess

and boom

[slow umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/failure-is-testing-albert-einstein-smart-gif-15516221

[ebon sand]

but the rng is real though

[warped slate]

can i co op with you?

[ebon sand]

why?Do you need temporary help? I've been in duo with a guildie for the longest time

[warped slate]

oh ok you’re good then i just started and was trying to get through the missions

[ebon sand]

if you've just started we're most likely not on the same server, exchanging chars wouldn't work

[warped slate]

oh ok

[ebon sand]

but what server are you on? I someone strong from the same server is around you could ask them for help

[warped slate]

i’m not sure how to check

[ebon sand]

when, in game you click on your pfp or avatar it's written in the top left corner of the screen

like 170 or something, Idk what's the count now

[warped slate]

oh ok S164

[crystal fern]

dang

[worn socket]

@quick hinge you suck

[quick hinge]

Die

[worn socket]

That is all ty

Lol

I happen to look at your pf in game

My bank acount had a heart attack

[quick hinge]

[frigid willow]

What day is the patch live?

[slow umbra]

idk but not today

so a future one perhaps

[frigid willow]

2 weeks I assume

We already have a season 2 for the new game mode

[cloud wing]

[eternal drum]

Hard agree

[cloud wing]

I’m helpful, right?

I help on S157, dont I?

@quick hinge

;-;

[quick hinge]

Hihi

[cloud wing]

Im helpful, right?

[quick hinge]

1% of the time yes

[cloud wing]

1%?!

I got a big Skirath though

[eternal drum]

We shall see when arena resets

I definitely can't do top 50 I don't think

but a lot of the spenders already quit

defo more helpful than kasu

[stoic pilot]

Has season 2 of golden frontier started on the test server? Does anyone know what the new penalty for switching leagues is?

[eternal drum]

You abandon all resource nodes and there's a cooldown on taking new resource nodes and getting honor spotlights

no clue what the timer actually is

[stoic pilot]

Thanks, Toast. It sounds like it's not too bad if you commit to a league on the first day (or as soon as possible...). Does that sound right?

[eternal drum]

yeah that's probably the plan. Though who knows how often the power balance will swing

[stoic pilot]

Fair point

[crystal fern]

Wow

[placid mica]

Hey is there a good and up to date guide you guys would recommend whne start Afk Arena companions from 0 ?

[oblique trellis]

check pins in #companions-questions

[placid mica]

thanks 🙂

[lucid summit]

Hello, can anyone help? A friend of mine doesn't know whether to build Ainz+Bedo or Laios+Marci.
Any guidance?

[quick hinge]

@timber cipher

This is so sad

The entire time

Raine hasn't been buffing ainz

[timber cipher]

[quick hinge]

I took gear off of albedo

[timber cipher]

+37 ainz

now it all makes sense

[quick hinge]

Getting closer

[timber cipher]

I did stop my protest and almost ascended Talene but o well

[quick hinge]

Lucretia is right after zeph

[timber cipher]

am out of sg cards for Luc now and will go for the a0 senf summon aTalene way, because thats what Zephyr did too

[quick hinge]

Which is bs

[timber cipher]

Im just very unsure which celestial I should work on afterwords, maybe mythic/asc twins can be nice for alliance...

and I need to stop duoing with my korean for alliance he does literally do nothing beside all 3 +20 point dailies and then i have to do a +15 point quest

or if I do both challenges against players and 1 +20 point fight, he does 40 points

like idk... we were 24th because he had like 80 points

thank god i managed to pull us up to 200 points for all rewards

[magic tree]

I never find the motivation to use these....

[dire ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-in-utter-disbelief-gato-gif-4675144530503950971

[plucky fulcrum]

Lefties are fucking nuts

The whole VTUBER’s GamerSupps VICE thing

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-point-thumbs-up-pov-gif-8068338067936271742

[lilac field]

I have a Talene at 1 star and an ascended Athalia

Should i continue trying to draw Talene or save my Stargazer cards for a different hero?

[eternal drum]

Well the minimum investment for athalia is a3. Normally you would pass on athalia unless you're a whale and save up for someone better

But you've already started athalia so at this point you should finish it

Question is whether or not to stretch to a5

Talene can stay where she is

[swift depot]

One day we will get a new pet, surely...

[eternal drum]

Yeah rather than sending these pets to combination oblivion it might be worth it to save scrolls

Combining pets is just deleting scrolls

[golden moat]

Speaking of Celestials, I doubt anyone really knows but what’s the best A level to stop at for Flora?

Figured you would probably know if anyone.

I was the black sheep and went A1 already.

But just knowing the abilities of A3 and A5 doesn’t tell me enough.

I knew A1 would be worth it (imo)

[eternal drum]

I would assume tank knows

I don't know if he has a celestial he hasn't maxed

[golden moat]

Ah. Yeah that probably checks.

[eternal drum]

But I don't think tank is on this server

[golden moat]

I’m going Talene probably to A and then yeah, gonna do the crazy thing and go Athalia A3.

But tbh that’s so far away that better Celestials are probably gonna be out.

I’ve been companions only so I don’t know much about these rumoured Celestials.

I just wait until a kit drops and decide then.

[eternal drum]

If you're at 0 for investments then waiting for Lucretia is probably the move

[golden moat]

Gotcha.

I’m Talene L so basically just zero.

I keep hearing she’s great.

[eternal drum]

Yeah there's no need for mythic Talene

[golden moat]

I’ve been a very minimal spender and probably won’t drop unless another Talene-like pack comes out for a great Celestial.

[golden moat]

Pretty much, yeah.

[eternal drum]

Rather than going partway on Talene and athalia just go and max Lucretia if she isn't nerfed too hard for companions

[golden moat]

I’ll definitely hold my gazers for her then.

What did she do in Classic?

I can probably find a vid for it actually.

I’m sure it’s awkward trying to recap skills.

[eternal drum]

Does damage and blocks ultimates

Her 9/9 on furniture blocks ultimates which is why she was such a high investment character

People in arena use 1 ezizh sometimes to block solise, Trish, and marci

If Lucy can do the same but actually be a good character then she will dominate

Companions right now is way too ultimate centric

Which is why Trishea is the best character for snow map because she just cheats the mechanic

[lilac field]

peopl esay the cele looks good, but ya i guess Ill try to get to A3 with athalia - I was a noob not sure why I went to A with her lol

[eternal drum]

I think zaph looks good but he has to stay alive

We shall see

[lilac field]

well anyway i dont spend much

so dont have that many cards to throw around

maxing out on what I already have makes more sense

[eternal drum]

Most celestials need pretty high investment to work so after that definitely save. Lucretia likely won't be something you can build before she's non meta

[lilac field]

but will athelia be of any use even at A3?

she seems pretty useless right now

[eternal drum]

Well that's why she needs a3. Her purpose is on offensive pvp or campaign to take out the highest value character then die

You basically trade your worst character for their best

Which on offense technically makes it as good as their best

[lilac field]

maybe lilith will be nice and let us upgrade some of our celes to awakened and maybe i can get an awakend athalia

lol

Dreams

thanks for the advice tho!

[eternal drum]

Yeah the obsidian Finch was good value for whales but them calling it a "gift" when all you're given is the permission to spend money is insulting

[timber cipher]

Zaph wants Zolrath

[eternal drum]

Does zaph want anything? He didn't even want his son back.

[timber cipher]

Tank has Flora at T1 and Talene T1 aswell, he enjoys them really much because he likes forked.

Flora is performing really well tho, even at A0 +30 (my whale duo has Flora build) - think it is mostly either stop at A0 to unlock aTalene

or build them up to A5 if you're invested tbf because the base stat gain on hypogean and celestials while ascending is insane.

My A5 Mehira with L+ equip outstats easily outstats most other tanks I own, even with better gear Tran 1 ... and so on.

[timber cipher]

I just think he'll be unreliable because he doesn't have Athalia entrance and stat boosts.

So to make up for it you'd prob pair him with Zolrath and other burst units to get better rng and a Zolrath rewind if necessary

[eternal drum]

Maybe he will be okay for some damage on DR/GH that want aoe

But that's a waste of a celehypo unless you only need epic which is unlikely for your main dps

[timber cipher]

mhm maybe a good one copy to add in "ult dmg only", will see

[eternal drum]

He would have to be on your Eironn or chicken team which usually does have a sub DPS

[timber cipher]

could replace some units in maulers aswell xd

i dont think that team is close to optimal

[eternal drum]

Maulers in general are replaceable

[timber cipher]

think crassio and warek are generally pretty good in dr/gh

[eternal drum]

Crassio, warek, chicken yeah

[timber cipher]

but beside them yea, chiken maybe aswell

[eternal drum]

Have people used Kren? And by people I mean kasu since they're the only one who bothered to get him

[timber cipher]

i think Kren aswell as the whale wall gave Kasu the shot o7

also Senf and S75 Korean guy, is probably too much competition

I hear a lot of excuses lately buuut o well

[eternal drum]

Do we know the minimum investment for Kren yet? He's probably going to be my 6th or 7th pick

[timber cipher]

minimum investment would be some kind of energy gain inside maulers for mauler tower, otherwise Kren is kinda useless

like he is a very good side carry on +30

[eternal drum]

Imagine your side carry needing +30

I ain't spending that much on a side piece smh

[timber cipher]

not sure if the a1 +0 kren did a lot here, but thats the only non build kren I've seen

and plenty of tidius/crassio/skregg combos instead of kren in tower

and then the only real build unit you need is crassio +20/+30 A5 and Skregg A5, tidius so that he survives and hits his fear

[golden moat]

Flora is my favourite Forked Celestial by far and Forked is kinda my gamemode as well. It’s why I was tempted to get her A5 and then Talene A5. I think I’ll go all in on A5 then.

Can’t ignore the juicy base stat gains. I just need M gear for her. I’ve had none this entire time.

I have two T1 and T2 stones for her when I get them.

And yeah my Flora is A1 +30

[timber cipher]

Sounds fine just to show filtering by base combatrating stats

Transcending is something I obviously wont recommend but hypogeans/celestials in here gain pretty good stats.

[golden moat]

Might hold off to wait for Lucretia if she has a set release date but until then I’m eyeing A3 Flora.

[eternal drum]

Two days in a row I got Flora from normal tavern pulls on 157

[timber cipher]

Hm Luc might change Tower and Campaign, but other than that she has little impact if she's close to what she is now.

Because you dont get her to work in forked because of the forced death passive

[timber cipher]

Thats crazy, the Flora run - there was a guy that said he got 8 Khazard from normal summons and then went to Ascend him with all his gazers up

[eternal drum]

Lol

[timber cipher]

wished he would still be here and test Khazard comps for me

[eternal drum]

Gotta rely on tank for that

[timber cipher]

after Zolrath is done he's building Khazard

And he likes Zolrath more than his overused Zikis so he might transcend Zolrath

o7

[eternal drum]

I dunno what if he moves on to zaph after zol

Khazard forever waiting

[timber cipher]

if he jumps to Zaph and Luc it'll be a long time xD

[eternal drum]

A freeze comp with khaz sounds interesting

[timber cipher]

He also prolongs stuns and such

[eternal drum]

Imagine a freeze stall orthros comp

[timber cipher]

So Tasi, Mehira, Gorvo, Ferael all sound intresting

But most likely in the direction of Tasi, Pippa and Gorvo, Khazard +1

[timber cipher]

mhh Orthros fumbles even more than Marcielle, like he dies if anything ever hits him .. so cant get it to work for Pvp

but for pve might work, though I think Orhtros probably not necessary and overcooked, because a lot of easier build units replace him in a better sense

that is just the crazy part of Khazard

me 2 months ago

[eternal drum]

So just do M<A3 SI30?

[timber cipher]

Yea Mythic Khazard SI30 was a thing in classic after "slumber comp" was found out for pve

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-NYxKa_Qk8

thats the vid from the guy finding out

no enemy can move at all

[eternal drum]

I wonder what to do if I get more Flora. M<A1 20/30 sounds decent

[timber cipher]

beware of the sg bait, with a lot of luck you get some after 40-50 pulls

but plenty of times you pull 60+

[eternal drum]

Oh yeah it's definitely unwise. Which is why M is probably the stopping point

My 115 account has L Mehira as the highest ascension celehypo. I'll see what she's used for if I build up a lot of gazers

But currently trying to get to 800/1000 for whoever is actually worth

[timber cipher]

Flora ascended deals a "fair" amount of dmg sometimes tho:

but its nothing crazy, does way more when enemies are grouped up, but most of the time is unable to outdamage enemy healing -

thats from 42-4 last time when i actually used flora lol

[eternal drum]

Well it's typical FF stuff. Flora and Talene for free damage alongside solo shall

[timber cipher]

is normal campaign, have no flora for FF yet

but ig thats the usecase yea

tank didnt even use his flora on the stage im stuck at ... but againat the next one but did not much more dmg than on my screenshot the a0 flora did

was pre his tran1

[swift depot]

6 months and im at 890

[eternal drum]

Sounds about right. Should be greatly accelerated with golden frontier

I think that alone was 50+

[swift depot]

accelerated. yes. greatly ehhmm

I got 37 total from the 30 days of Golden Frontier

[magic tree]

Seems to be low number

[swift depot]

if we round to 40, its 10 more per week

[timber cipher]

thats not a full gem miner

[swift depot]

so twice as only arena

[swift depot]

it was

215 chests gathered

[timber cipher]

[eternal drum]

I know I had one day where I got 4 alone

[swift depot]

well ofc, but as everything theres highs and lows

[timber cipher]

ig a rough one

[swift depot]

remember first week you only get 3 Gem mines

[eternal drum]

37 sounds like what you'd have for just chests

[timber cipher]

didnt count mine completly but on avg i was doing 15 chests

[swift depot]

yeah, im talking merely chests

I forgot to account the end rewards, which is another 10

but, we also get 5 from alliance contests and whatnot, so fixed rewards are already part of the "usual" flow

[timber cipher]

i need a big magicians hat

bc it was only one for me yet and i missed it because i was still f2p

[swift depot]

I havent tracked Gazers value through events cuz we have been emblem starved

may start adding them to my spreadshet

[timber cipher]

we're getting t2 starved, emblem starved and gazer starved

but golden frontier is a step in the right direction

[swift depot]

we dont talk about T2s

[timber cipher]

im the only whale at 42-20 with 0 t2s

[swift depot]

if, T2s kept the faction, it would be somewhat more valuable

[eternal drum]

How many weeks has it been since celestial isles?

[timber cipher]

its not a lot but holy f

[swift depot]

3?

[eternal drum]

Hm.... We shall see what the next patch notes say then.

But test server hasn't seen it again

[swift depot]

correct

the ugly side about upcoming patch is that it is only Golden Frontier

as much as I like it, the point would be to have Golden Frontier along the other events

not instead of

[timber cipher]

5 weeks

[eternal drum]

Yeah we assumed it would be every month that we would have celestial isles but if it's more than 4 weeks for the cycle then that's rough

We were already very critical of the wait for Arthur

[timber cipher]

been 5 already

[eternal drum]

Dang

[timber cipher]

[swift depot]

but 3 since it ended no?

2 weeks of event, 4 weeks of wait

[timber cipher]

ppl stoped talking about it after april so idk

[timber cipher]

idk the cycle am not a classic andy

[swift depot]

we need a timeline

[swift depot]

me neither

but we will see, in 14 days

[timber cipher]

is the best guess I'd assume so yea

[eternal drum]

So 6 months for Arthur E instead of 4.

The fuck? 6 months and you would have A1 celehypo

[swift depot]

yeah, that absolutely sucks

[swift depot]

and dont forget you gotta have stockpiled dim spirits beforehand

[eternal drum]

I'm so mad that they don't let you save stones. If you can't spend them precisely you just have wasted resources

Even just the basic details screw you over let alone the actual rewards

[lilac field]

how much do whales actually spend on the game?

[timber cipher]

Well unlocking aTalene costs ~3800$ and all other things are relative.

If you only buy "good popups" and "special event deals", you will be in the thousands.

If you want a fast unlock and skip everything, you might end up like Kasu spending 600$ on a kren and again 600$ on a raine... a5/+30

Since there are individual offers, its different for everyone.

I believe that there are also plenty of people that go into the 5 figures ... and I do not even want to know about the ppl that maxed everything in classic

can't tell how much an aSolise boost/fast unlock costs for new server whales, since I haven't done that either

[lilac field]

thats crazy

plent of rich people here 😄

[timber cipher]

its a gaccha

[ebon sand]

I fear I'm gonna need more lvls to beat 42-20 :/

[timber cipher]

really? I'm at 372 and it seemed pretty beatable to me, but were pretty busy lately and didnt bother to push 42-20 yet

[lilac field]

Im stick on 39 still

its waayyy too slow from here

[timber cipher]

my gwyneth is a bit rng heavy since she is only +20 and everyone been using gwyneth +30

[ebon sand]

yeah I've beat 3 squads down but retrying the 4rth seemed pointless with what I have left so I'm retrying differentely but don't have much hope

[timber cipher]

ah yea team 4 was the gwyneth comp i believe

i think i can cook something up that is rng heavy tho

with either mira or audrae and arthur in it

[ebon sand]

I don't have arthur or multiple 5* cele so my choices are limited

[timber cipher]

ooo rough yea depends on your level and if you have gwyneth +30 ig

[ebon sand]

I've been contemplating pushing my Audrae but not sure yet

#companions-questions message

[timber cipher]

hard guess, I kinda think my audrae would've been fine on a3 so far, only one case where audrae had a solo fight against a hendrik and needed to shred a tank

since audrae usally targets every backliner first, so the penetration is most of the time not that necessary

is quite some good base stats tho

I've no weapons either

and I'm the only one up there without any t2 gear

[ebon sand]

yeah her problem for me is more that she dies before being useful than lacking dmg

[timber cipher]

so its rough for me xD

yea she kinda needs a great tank like brutus or arthur aswell as some setup cc like mira

or he

idk

[ebon sand]

sometimes she's decent already, I need to push her gear but still got dims to finish 😒

I need to beat this squad without using the gwyn LB gang to keep it for the 4th one

[lilac field]

Any comments on the team?

[ebon sand]

oh just beat it adding daimon, I'm back in business

[timber cipher]

i may be blind but you need albedo

[lilac field]

I do
I did not get her
dont know how to anymore 😦

[timber cipher]

[lilac field]

makes a huge difference for me in pvp

sigh

[timber cipher]

aside from that you're at 2/5 for aTalene unlock sooo thats not to bad

[lilac field]

Ya I am a year away from it given how long it takes for low spenders I guess

Also I think i am lacking a good maulers team, need to build that up

I am screwed if the next awakened is a mauler

[timber cipher]

Mhm yea I usally just do these with either Mehira buffing my shemira and talene or some other add ins I feel like using

[ebon sand]

and done!

[timber cipher]

very nice

[ebon sand]

I'm surprised that adding Daimon seemed to help that much but looking at it he didn't do much

[timber cipher]

because his "stolen health" isn't showed as damage, since he gives the stolen health back to the enemy

also that one is kinda good

[ebon sand]

yup, but looking at the replay, Talene's heal were superb in that fight

[timber cipher]

o is even more increased lol

[ebon sand]

oh that might have been daimon's death lmao

[timber cipher]

Yee, Zephyr been using daimon with shalltear and talene a lot

[ebon sand]

I'll think of Daimon more but Shall+Talene has been my favorite duo for a while

geeze

took a few tries but when it works, it works with these 2

[quick hinge]

Talene and marci

[timber cipher]

finally starting to get scores below zephyr semi-consistently

as said just had to smuggle a mira in and rng the other part before without a mira

[timber cipher]

Kasuu, I'm at 42-24... ur lvld above me push up

[quick hinge]

It's boring

I haven't even been on today

[timber cipher]

Why?

[quick hinge]

Bc it's boring

It's everyone just copying everyone now

[timber cipher]

not really?

[ebon sand]

yeah pushing is nice sometimes but it's time consuming and can be annoying

[quick hinge]

Do u want me to show u what people used for stages

Bc it's just copy an paste of the same teams

It's the same for tower

Ff

Dr

Gh

Its boring

I'm even higher lvl then my Korean now

[timber cipher]

the fact that whales copy the people that actually find solutions?

because there are plenty of unfound solutions that I can tell you of

i showed you by logging into your account

I beat the stage with a unique solution in 10minutes

[nocturne stone]

@quick hinge i finally caught up on hero killer

[quick hinge]

Every other team

Was copied

Changing one team

Means nada

[quick hinge]

Did u like it?

[nocturne stone]

Yeah, i kept meaning to and just never got to it, im glad i’m caught up again

[timber cipher]

Yea bc u said the stage was impossible and I had a time limit to prove you and bamaboy wrong

[timber cipher]

I can log in your account and beat 5 teams with complete unique teams

[quick hinge]

If u wanna login then u can do it

I'm pretty much bored of the game

[timber cipher]

a bit sad to see that you're burned out, but ig thats a personal thingy

[quick hinge]

[quick hinge]

I spent almost 60+hrs a week on the game

For weeks straight

It happens

[timber cipher]

Yea take a breather and come back when you feel like it ig

I was on the past 3 days out and didnt really have time to play

[quick hinge]

One week alone I had 100hrs

[nocturne stone]

The issue is companions doesnt have enough to do

Like at a certain point your just on to be on

[quick hinge]

I still play

I just don't push

[timber cipher]

like today was the first chill I had

[quick hinge]

My server maybe has 30-40 active people

No reason really to do anything

[timber cipher]

well its an idle game and i treat it as stuff for my 2nd monitor mostly

and I personally dont want as much to dos as like a classic gives you to do

so I'm happy with companions but I get the people that want to do more, thanks to the free2play its more than enough to do dailies there and push every so often there

[quick hinge]

Also I can't catch the Korean either

So that's

Just a Demotavator

Even when I pass him he just copies me

[nocturne stone]

They need to make comp sharing optional

[timber cipher]

well you dont have to compete with his wallet, if you whale just to be outwhaled and throw the flag, then I wouldn't whale in the first place

[quick hinge]

I'm not competing with my wallet

I do more DMG in and gh and dr

[timber cipher]

I'd always compare with yourself and what you wanna do

[quick hinge]

But then he just copies the teams

Even in arena

[timber cipher]

Yea but you're still getting the top rewards because dream is top 10

[quick hinge]

If he loses to me he will copy the teams

It's boring an bs

[quick hinge]

I don't care for the rewards

A spender never cares for the rewards

Bc u can just buy what u want

[timber cipher]

Well what happens in the other gacchas you played, people outspent you and copy aswell, no - that thing is called meta and usally a case?

[quick hinge]

No one copied my teams in journey

[timber cipher]

I do, I wouldn't even bother aslong as im in the top10, for me its outlasting the resource loss by being behind

[nocturne stone]

My buddy just picked journey up again

[quick hinge]

It's sht

[timber cipher]

well no one spent 20k to have p4 chars or whatever you said

[quick hinge]

And I'll never touch it again

It's a sht money grab

[timber cipher]

I mean I was outside 2 days ago walking 30km, getting sunburned, wasting myself with friends and doing shi at a lake

Like I balance my life around other things and I'm not a doc or anything but if f.e. afk gets to be your main thing or hpyerfixation, aswell as you working - then you need for the one part enough sleep and rest, aswell as fing some other form of balance

[quick hinge]

?

U can login an do whatever

I'll just continue to build my heroes

But I'm done doing most things

[timber cipher]

why'd I login, I proofed my point its not about that - mf you just need to get out of your depression

[quick hinge]

It's not a depression?

I'm bored of the game

[timber cipher]

and if you're done with the game thats good, but then you do you

[quick hinge]

Like I told u before

I give my accounts away

[timber cipher]

Nah we talked about stuff and your life is pretty crazy, in that case, a lot of work and little sleep - if you're done with a game, then you're done thats fine. But your life is another topic fr

[quick hinge]

?

[timber cipher]

Maybe I missunderstand you but like you put thousands of hard earned money into a game, that you played for 3 months.

To say you're bored

[quick hinge]

I played journey for a month

Spent ~$25k

Left

?

I didn't say I was quitting

Just bored of pushing

[timber cipher]

I mean you do you - but thats a bit impulsive, no?

Well you said stuff about giving your account away lol

[quick hinge]

Not really

I always give my accounts away

An I feel fine about it

[quick hinge]

Bc u can push on there if u want

[timber cipher]

But like, with that money you could buy the newest consoles, pcs and w/e + however many games you want for them and also have enough for the next months, no?

[quick hinge]

I don't have time for consoles

I'm out of my house from 8am to about 9pm everyday

On weekends I sleep roughly 12hrs

[timber cipher]

you could makeyourself that time and work something less time consuming

[quick hinge]

I play mobile games bc their easy to access

[quick hinge]

But then I'd have to find a different job

[timber cipher]

yea but they took like over 30k out of you

[quick hinge]

That would pay less

I like working

Keeps me moving

[timber cipher]

Yep but you'd need to pay less for things aswell

[quick hinge]

I spent ~$70k in about 3 months time on gacha

[timber cipher]

Kasu you need to learn how to catch a break

[quick hinge]

No breaks only grind

[timber cipher]

Yea I also spent a lot of extra on food and other stuff like spa

[quick hinge]

If u aren't making money u are wasteing time

[timber cipher]

Then I take the time for my friends every so often and then some days to recharge where I do some work from home or other stuff like when I get sick

[quick hinge]

I can't work from home

And friends are anyoing

So

[timber cipher]

well but there'll be many times where you will waste time in your life, on way too many things

[quick hinge]

Rather not

[timber cipher]

Yea but like what do you want, surely not to play some gacchas, to get 1st for a couple of weeks in a local server, just to find out there are bigger sharks in the pond to throw the towel and then say, welp onto the next cashgrab

[quick hinge]

I'm a gacha game jumper

That's what I do

[timber cipher]

bc thats nothing else than playing slots

[quick hinge]

I build the n1 guild get first

Then leave

Repeat

My guild in journey is still top 3

[timber cipher]

I mean you do you

But personally I feel like that you're stuck in a loop or addiction there and should get some help

[quick hinge]

How

[timber cipher]

like no cap, no troll - for real spending 70k in 3 months sounds unhealthy for your lifesteal - the way you say "paycheck, comes end of the month" ... and other stuff

[quick hinge]

That wasn't me

My life's fine

Got my own car an house

[timber cipher]

like I budget myself and have still plenty of my money going into etf, shares, my house renovations and other stuff yk

[quick hinge]

I just don't like to travel or do anything fancy

[timber cipher]

Yea I get when you say, that you got some stuff - but like, take enough care of yourself and treat yourself sometimes - even if its not for or with others - just for yourself

[quick hinge]

That's just called greed

[timber cipher]

Doesn't need to be fancy, but like I bet you didn't try out a lot of stuff yet

[nocturne stone]

[timber cipher]

and you def should try it out and change some things up every so often, even if its just one habit - bc idk if its just me but im really concernd

[nocturne stone]

My month pass still hasnt run out, i havent been on since last year

[quick hinge]

Concered about what : /

[quick hinge]

I maxed

Both of those

365 days

[nocturne stone]

I maxed diamond, not the other

[quick hinge]

If I wasn't banned from the dc

I could get pics

[swift depot]

Gazette funny stuff

[nocturne stone]

How are you banned from journey dc

[quick hinge]

One of their mods went on a power trip and banned me

He was later removed from being mod

But I'm still banned

[old laurel]

[quick hinge]

Are u in the DC?

[nocturne stone]

no

[quick hinge]

Ah

[timber cipher]

Kasu, ur 20 and some things in your life are stable and fine (house + car)- but your habits are not healthy on the long term

and you do you - like maybe its really rude for me to care about your stuff and intervene with it - but possibly there won't be many chances of people telling you that you'll miss out on life

[nocturne stone]

i never joined any besides my old guilds for journey

[quick hinge]

I told u what I thought about life already

[quick hinge]

Ic ic

[swift depot]

@quick hinge have you tried all inclusive resorts?

[quick hinge]

Idk if he still plays

But that was a friend of mines

[quick hinge]

?

I don't like people

So no

[timber cipher]

Yea and if you want to I can respect that and ignore it like everybody else and say, well its not my problem.

But I feel to empathetic about that to not atleast try to care and tell you to do something about it

[quick hinge]

[nocturne stone]

Bro doubled and then some my vip

[quick hinge]

Raven

Was wild

[quick hinge]

I don't see an issue : /

[timber cipher]

That is the issue

[quick hinge]

[timber cipher]

No but fr there are some things in life that can be way easier and I dont mean to force socializing upon you.

I just mean working less an spending less money on gaccha f.e.

Bc yu sleep for 5-6 days 4 hours

and for 1 day around 24 hours or for 2 days around 12 hours

[quick hinge]

Working less = less money = more overthinking = more problem and depression

[nocturne stone]

I mean the thing is, kasu and i both have a very diff culture work wise than other places so it’s not as easy to just have work-life balance

[timber cipher]

You could work on a hobby that is also "work" in your freetime - that is not as much moneydraining as a gaccha

[quick hinge]

Plane builder

[nocturne stone]

yes ma’am

[quick hinge]

I don't have hobbies

Nothing interest me

My family ask the same thing

Thats why I work

I don't work bc im interested in it

I work bc I like money

[eternal drum]

gacha is a hobby. just have to figure out what it is about gacha that you like that goes beyond spending money on gacha

[timber cipher]

No Kasu is just treating themself as shit, because Kasu has possibly issues with thems selfworth and rather does anything else than taking care of themself.

[quick hinge]

I like the gacha people

[timber cipher]

I would disagree bc u spent that money away like its nothing

[quick hinge]

I like supporting my guild

[nocturne stone]

ngl i should just pick up journey again

[timber cipher]

I mean spending money itself is not the issue, but like there is the time management part, the depression part and much more that you can easily read along the lines Kasu

[plucky fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-america-united-states-usa-president-gif-15276051259344443850

I’m a they/them you can’t argue

[quick hinge]

I don't have depression

I've worked hard not to have it

I don't even have social media

[timber cipher]

You say that you don't have a hobby, you don't have friends and that you get little sleep.

You also said that you work a lot for money, but also spent almost all that money for gaccha. Which sounds like a gambling addiction.

I do not believe that you do not have depressions.

[eternal drum]

I'm not going to say that the things others do that would make me depressed should make them depressed but this will be a cycle that will be unsustainable as you get older.

[timber cipher]

But I'm rude for intervening with it, just wanted to use your burning out from afk arena to push you off in a right direction and reflect upon your life to make the best out of it

I'm just a stranger but there is a lot that you can have.

[eternal drum]

If you don't feel depressed then cool but working long hours and not sleeping isn't something you can do once you age

[timber cipher]

Yea, its fine if Kasu is not burned out from it, its just an unsustainable lifestyle that is a really bad habit and will leave nothing in a few years but regret.

I may be wrong with that and am crossing a line, but there is a lot you can still do and possibly should try out aside from the same things that you're stuck on.

If they're fun keep 'em, but chance 1-2 things up and look if other things in life may work even better or make you even happier. :>

[quick hinge]

I don't need or want anything more in life

I have no reason for it

I like my life as is

I'm a simple person

Work sleep repeat

Im fine with that

[timber cipher]

That is okay, you'll figure out on your own and do fine on your own then.

But there'll be a day after work sleep repeat, will burn you out like the repetiveness from afk arena pushing will.

[quick hinge]

Your saying this to the person who eats the same 3 things every single day

For yrs straight

The people at the restaurants now just call me by my name

Doing the same thing every day isn't a bad thing means u don't have to worry about anything bc you'll just do the same as yesterday

[timber cipher]

Mhm, because there are things that you want to experience, that you do not have and do not get atm.

But your withdrawl from socializing will make it impossible to get that.

[quick hinge]

I don't want to try anything though

[timber cipher]

But you age every day and you physically cannot endure everything the same way.

[eternal drum]

Eh. Just sounds like normal spectrum stuff. Not needing to socialize, doing the same routine, hyperfixation on things (e.g. gacha)

Kasu will be fine with their own thing

[quick hinge]

My gramps was 60 and still doing roof work

[timber cipher]

the kinky stuff? ig if you dont want them in your life, good

[quick hinge]

Even rn he's 70 something and still playing sports

[eternal drum]

I definitely would not use a 60 year old roofer as an example. That is not a good expectation to have of what a person could do.

[quick hinge]

I don't want anyone irl

They just wanna waste time and spend money on bs

Then leave

[swift depot]

With the money spent on gacha you could pay someone to cosplay for you

[timber cipher]

See, thats trust issue kind of shit

[quick hinge]

[nocturne stone]

How did this become a intervention

[quick hinge]

It's just facts

[nocturne stone]

[quick hinge]

Not trust issues

[timber cipher]

And why, because you don't socialize and build yourself a foundation of friends around ya

[timber cipher]

its not facts

[quick hinge]

Friends waste time

[timber cipher]

ppl will like you, go out and do something about it

[quick hinge]

They just want to go out drink an do jacksht

[timber cipher]

yes gacchas do that aswell

[spice fiber]

I’ll come back later then

[timber cipher]

join in

[quick hinge]

Idc if they like me

I don't like them

The people I knew in hs I've ghosted since graduation

[spice fiber]

Same!

[timber cipher]

what about that friend you told me of

[quick hinge]

?

[spice fiber]

I have 3 friends

[timber cipher]

care for him and do smth with him once in a while

[spice fiber]

Me, myself and I

[quick hinge]

?

I don't remember saying I had one

[timber cipher]

^
the 2 friends that went to college for computer science

[quick hinge]

Oh

[quick hinge]

This

[swift depot]

How about meeting new people at conventions?

[quick hinge]

I even drove them to graduation

[timber cipher]

did they ghost you or is it also ghosting from you?

start up a convo once in a while

[quick hinge]

I don't like people

[quick hinge]

Why

[swift depot]

You kinda like us, don't you?

[quick hinge]

They will just say let's go hang out

That's boring

I rather work

[quick hinge]

I like the gacha community

Bc I will never have to see y'all irl

[timber cipher]

What makes work better than hanging out with friends

And if you say money, then why money?

[eternal drum]

kasu wants friends with zero baggage which is just what internet friends are

[swift depot]

lel, I think a lot of the fellas here would be fun to hang out with

[quick hinge]

[eternal drum]

hop on discord whenever you want and leave whenever you want

[quick hinge]

Toast gets me

[swift depot]

My irl friends also play gachas

So I can send them gacha vids, memes, and whatnot

[quick hinge]

No nagging, btshing,arguing, talking, yelling, people, annoying bs, etc

[nocturne stone]

Gonna meet kasu so i can drive her car

[quick hinge]

It's a Jeep

Although someone clipped it

And knocked my sensor out

[timber cipher]

but you argue, brat, btsh, yell with me or deal even with me arguing that much about you?

[quick hinge]

Like I said

[quick hinge]

^

[nocturne stone]

Its ok my car is living in my driveway in pieces

[timber cipher]

irl you can also leave if a situation is t oo f'd up

[quick hinge]

Then your just called a btsh

[eternal drum]

perx you're looking at kasus life as if you were the one living it which is the wrong perspective because what makes them happy is completely different from what makes you happy

[timber cipher]

you can also show boundaries, have limits and say no

[eternal drum]

people outside the spectrum just can't understand what it's like to be on the spectrum 😔

[quick hinge]

[eternal drum]

and then force their ideals thinking they have the same interests

[quick hinge]

Haven't seen toast act mature

Ever

Alien

[eternal drum]

It's because we don't have serious convos here

[quick hinge]

Fair enough

[eternal drum]

But I can't joke when someone wants to have an intervention

[quick hinge]

I didn't wanna have one

I just got put here

[nocturne stone]

I hate that it literally became an intervention

[eternal drum]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-girl-cute-kawaii-leaving-gif-17742721

me n kasu rn

[nocturne stone]

I’m going back to reading

[quick hinge]

Don't lump me in with u nub

[eternal drum]

[eternal drum]

[quick hinge]

[quick hinge]

I am a diagnosed Psychopath though

Idk if that plays apart in anything

But

[timber cipher]

Yes, because Kasu never learned to do something and I know Kasu does not intend to learn how to deal socially with people. And probably internally just said, well some things will never happen in life.

But thats just sad to hear/see from the outside.
Thats why its rude in the first case for me to intervene.

But spending 70k in 3 months on gacchas or like spending 25k in one month on journey - is alarming for me.

[timber cipher]

Why you're free to intervene with my thoughts aswell

[quick hinge]

I don't find it rude

Not much affects me

[eternal drum]

There are a couple rules I try to follow for gacha communities
-no politics because it just leads to arguments
-no personal life because it's a game and we're here to avoid it
-no finance because that's like going to a casino and lecturing someone about gambling. We know what we're getting into and don't come here to get out of it.

whether or not you mean well, we're not here for it

[quick hinge]

This is a weird toast

I like it

[echo finch]

gambling is one of the addictions i will never develop

[eternal drum]

If someone brings up any of those three topics and seeks someone's advice or help then that's different

but I never bring those things up before then

Ultimately with anything a person can only be helped if they're ready and willing

anything else is just unsolicited

[nocturne stone]

i’ll help you to kick the toast addiction

[eternal drum]

😔

it's impossible

[frigid willow]

Crazy talk you guys have here

Anyway

Hopes for ABelinda?

ABrutus never gonna happen

[teal lava]

Fr bro I feel that I couldn't imagine not being on it

[frail arch]

how to make my hero to have that same shiny star?

[cloud wing]

@quick hinge

Kasu!

Mehira Jumpscare!

[quick hinge]

Rip

[cloud wing]

I’m happy I got a copy of her (and damian, finally)

Alongside the Pippa i got today, i even got progress on wilder upgrades for my 8th ascended wilder

5 pippa to A3 ASolise

[pure bobcat]

alguien sabe por que no me aparece la pestaña de mercenarios? estoy en el capitulo 8

Does anyone know why the mercenaries tab isn't showing up? I'm on Chapter 8.

[frigid willow]

On companion server we don’t have mercenary

[pure bobcat]

im stucked on chapt 8-12, is okey if i will go to clasic?

[frigid willow]

Being stuck is part of the game

You will be stuck in classic at some moment too

[pure bobcat]

yes but im farming on companion to go to classic with some materials

when is good to change to classic?

[pure bobcat]

IF I CHANGE TO CLASSIC MODE I WILL LOSE ALL MY RECURSES? OMG

[cloud wing]

You will download classic

And the game will relaunch in the classic half

All progress in companions is saved

[echo finch]

think of classic and companions as separate but somewhat-identical games

[rustic osprey]

hello guys, what is a better version for someone wanting to spend alot of time in game, i don't care about collecting that much just want steady progression and something to do ingame

[vocal dew]

Classic

@slow umbra

[ebon sand]

In 40 pulls WTF

It was the 1st time something like that happened to me

[eternal drum]

No Audrae tho

[ebon sand]

I got a copy at 50 or 60 pulls, she's 4* now

[eternal drum]

Nice

[ebon sand]

Yup, I triggered an mtx I actually did 2k5 SG pulls on this account, rookie number 😅

[floral perch]

what stage do you start getting mythic items from afk rewards?

i think i asked this question before but i forgot XD

[hollow flume]

31-1

[quick hinge]

Ainz is officially no longer used for me

[ebon sand]

Do you use the exact same teams all the time? I sometimes use chars that barely see the light of day

[timber cipher]

Shemira over Ainz in pvp?

[quick hinge]

Ainz does nothing

Shem does a lot better

[quick hinge]

The only time I use ainz is on snow map

But even then he just gets sht on

By Athalia an audrae

Ainz imo is high c or low b

[quick hinge]

Also have u seen the new golden Frontier?

[old laurel]

Does it give xp

😭

[quick hinge]

It's p2w now

[old laurel]

Ah

Nice

[quick hinge]

Fun

[timber cipher]

😭

[old laurel]

As if they couldn't get greedier 😭

[quick hinge]

U aren't showing me anything

[timber cipher]

were just my normal comps withotu a change

[quick hinge]

@old laurel

[timber cipher]

Yea saw some p2w stuff, but most ppl will ignore it so is fine

[old laurel]

That's utterly insane wtf

[quick hinge]

Again

U aren't showing me anything

The game is becoming stale an hugely p2w

[timber cipher]

Yea and we knew that from day 1?

I was f2p because of it and decided to p2w, knowingly what I got into and put a budget on me

[quick hinge]

We knew you'd have to pay for team wide buffs to even be able to compete in a game mode?

[timber cipher]

no the golden frontier stuff is bs, but if 5 person will buy it, it wont change the impact of the game

you might thing that its a huge thing, but now thing about what does this pack give in return for most people, almost nothing and if you communicate and organize / align a guild again, yea sucks for those that dont get a couple days of resources

--- but early on doesnt matter, not much that you can lose out on

and then you form a giga alliance that cant be beaten buy 5ppl buying p2w buffs

then you just talk things out, do a bit of politics, give the 2nd strongest guild oak on the last days or something like and 85% of the active players in golden frontier will be happy

[quick hinge]

It is a huge thing

People already quitting over it

And it shows the way the game is heading

[timber cipher]

it is bs, but why would people buy a 50% p2w buff?

[quick hinge]

The whales and krakens

[timber cipher]

yea if its mmr based kraken frontier

[quick hinge]

The Korean for example

[quick hinge]

Their in my frontier

If u don't buy the buffs

[timber cipher]

so do politics

[quick hinge]

U just can't compete

[timber cipher]

and align

you dont know how frontier works

[quick hinge]

Align does nothing

Especially now that people know u don't even have to be top 2

[timber cipher]

yea because you talk smack to everyone and dont socialize

[quick hinge]

For the frame

U can just do nothing an get it

[timber cipher]

idk the game is even worse in p2w terms normally idk why you make a big thing about some microtransactions in frontier that literally maybe 10-15 players will buy

and if those players buy all microtransaction their 10m power is 15m power

woooooooooow

[quick hinge]

U don't see the bigger picture

It's fine

[timber cipher]

kasu

you paid on the key event

for the scam keys

like a couple hundreds bonus

and didn't see a bigger picture aswell

[quick hinge]

For

Dust

Xp

Stones

Arthur

Ect

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You can just wait for the event to reoccur

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Do u know when that will be?

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after special event it was just scam offers to bait you into buying special offers - that is the big picture

and yea the game is marketing really bad stuff and i really didnt enjoy arthur f.e. being the side reward and not obtainable for f2p

but not much changed and if people want to quit, then they should

I see the big picture and I see a greedy lilith but that hasnt changed and that is not as bad as you guys make it up to be.

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Were paying for passive buffs to win a limited time mode

It's as bad as it gets

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no

literally no one is paying for those buffs

except the s75 whale as you say

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I can think of a few

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like it will flop

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Then u got this event on classic

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let me tell you

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