companions-questions

[tiny saffron]

haaa its the first pin..

[cloud sky]

The beginner guide right? I saw that and there were only the wishlist heroes in priority?

[tiny saffron]

yes, thats it?

[cloud sky]

Thanks

Wilders are the heroes i should focus on when using faction scrolls right?

[tiny saffron]

yess

[shadow fox]

VIP on campagnon ??

[sonic matrix]

wowo omggomg is that ianne?? THE REALL? iannee??!

[arctic zinc]

Soul Hound teams?

[tiny saffron]

mm now pull it down

[sullen lake]

Who do i push?

[tiny saffron]

Either ainz, or both new dims

[frosty jacinth]

Is there like a guide for the best formations to use on the different guild bosses?

[sullen lake]

:/ i dont know 😫

Is there a guide on its way?

[burnt moss]

If you can get Laios and Marcille to a5 then do those two. Ainz is if you cannot build two dims

[atomic frigate]

what's going on, what did I do wrong, why did my diamonds disappear

[burnt moss]

What was your final ranking

If you're two ranking brackets away from your duo you don't get anything from them and if you're not in the top 1000 you don't earn any diamonds

[covert prairie]

Is A5* Tasi or A3* Oku better to ascend? I already have Lyca, Trishea, Mishka and Nevanthi

[burnt moss]

Tasi

[median basalt]

Can someone from a personal experience tell me which he liked better companions or classic?

[rigid sierra]

Is there any guide for dream realm?

[cloud sky]

How does one get sig weapons for heroes?

[burnt moss]

Mythic hero

[hybrid vessel]

I like companions more because it takes less time

[minor kernel]

I have Rosaline and Salaki at 6 copies each, would they be decent first heroes to invest in for LB and Wilders?

[burnt moss]

I'd wait until you have 8 copies to make sure you can ascend

They're good but you don't need to start building them now

[median basalt]

You mean daily playing time?

[vernal heath]

Why am I seeing people with Shalltear in alliance contest (arena part of it)? My server is around one month old so we’ve never had her event.

[burnt moss]

Alliance contest has some sort of mmr system unlike other modes that do regions based on server age. It's good to have an mmr system but Lilith needs to understand that it cannot exist until they bring something like garrisons from classic to the game

They have a lot of things to sort out for companions which is effectively still in beta

[vernal heath]

And mmr is?

[short ginkgo]

And? She's brain dead hero , alone.

[strong bear]

Guys what do we think about the 2 new dimensionals now? Should I just save up for the next or go all out (max one being asc 3 I'm broke)

[burnt moss]

Matchmaking rating. Do better and you get paired against better players. Do worse and you get paired against bad players

[short ginkgo]

I pushed girl to ascended, boy I left at e like rest of dims

[strong bear]

So do u think it was worth it or rather spend the gems on something else

[vernal heath]

Interesting. Thanks

[short ginkgo]

I don't use dims, just don't like them 😉

[strong bear]

Uh then why even pull for them

[short ginkgo]

She looks funny, but meh. Maybe on younger servers someone use it

[tiny saffron]

just skip, its not worth it

[strong bear]

Thank you

[short ginkgo]

Asolise still wreck everything oh her path

[strong bear]

Well yeah that's to be expected
But I was hoping to get more strong units I can make a team with

But the new ones both seem so high investment for medium return

[tiny saffron]

they just overhyped because of shalltear expectations, it was pretty noticeable they not that good just from the arena trials

[strong bear]

Yeah

[tiny saffron]

and people who got them still say they so good lol, ainz bedo better

[strong bear]

Well I have Albedo and Shalltear at 3 star should I keep my 16 souls for the next or just max them both? And use the armor chest on Albedo?

[strong bear]

Well I can imagine if they're both fully maxed out they're good but... Realistically unless I'm a whale that's not happening

[tiny saffron]

albedo only 3, shalltear 5 is good too esp pvp

[strong bear]

Shall gets 85% damage reduction from summons which is nice but besides asolise are there even summons I should worry about

[tiny saffron]

well if she works for you at 3 then just save😗

[strong bear]

Rip I was hoping for another amazing unit like shall

[pearl light]

How good is trishea early game

[burnt moss]

A good carry

One of the only characters I'd bring to mythic before having 8 copies unless I have a different ascended carry

[pearl light]

I basically have a full wilder team swapping lyca and tasi when needed. As soon as I get enough food should I get her mythic?

[burnt moss]

Probably but it's going to be painful that you spend the fodder on oko already

[pearl light]

I should be able to get a lot of food soon from forest mania

[burnt moss]

Trust me when I say it's never enough. Not for a couple months

[pearl light]

Yeah I should probably play for the long run

[burnt moss]

Trish will get enough fodder just fine

But Mishka or Lyca should've hopefully been your second ascended

[tiny saffron]

didnt you alrdy restart? how come you made the same mistake

[pearl light]

Wym restart?

[tiny saffron]

nvm, i think its someone else

[pearl light]

Or my classic account maybe

[marble fractal]

Which hero should I ascend first among wilders

[tiny saffron]

show heroes

[marble fractal]

Looks lyca I know but everyone has mishka ascended

[tiny saffron]

but you dont have a copy of mishka so😗

[marble fractal]

Maybe one day 🤣

[tiny saffron]

lol just do lyca if you get 8copies shes strong too. Also thats good you didnt upgrade anyone else to legend

[marble fractal]

Okay thx 🙏

[burnt moss]

At this point it's probably Lyca since you have literally no other option

This is more of a question to ask when you can actually ascend someone

[arctic zinc]

Oku Respen Serius Pippa Gorvo which two should I make A copies

[tiny saffron]

oku pippa

[arctic zinc]

Yessah

[marble fractal]

Should I use these souls or save them other hero

[tiny saffron]

save

[serene halo]

Guys how can some ppl be vip in this game?

[tiny saffron]

spend a lot

[shadow fox]

hi , i can save my pull or pull this for an other hereos ?

[tiny saffron]

aren't you a big whale? but you can, dims that aren't collab doesn't have destiny pulls so the spirits are more expensive in other events

[silver saffron]

Do i keep shemira/ myska on my whishlist After getting 8 of them?

[tiny saffron]

till 5star

[silver saffron]

You Can get asolosis with 5 a1 wilders. Do you think They add this für the other factions as well, that if you get 5x a1 you get an ascended one?

[burnt moss]

well that would be consistent with asolise and atalene so yes

[opaque cargo]

Should I buy emblem choice chests? (so I can +30 albedo)

[deft shard]

can you expand on this? do you know how much more the spirits are in non collabs?

[burnt moss]

50 stargazers which would be 2.5x more expensive in estimated value to a destiny scroll or from a very infrequently recurring event where you have a limited amount of event currency to use

You will have to build other dimensional heroes that appear outside of the collaboration like Arthur which will not have a destiny summon

The amount of pulls you've done now is enough to max 2 dimensionals but there is at least a third dimensional you will need spirits for

[terse ginkgo]

Arthur....what a distant dream

[compact sapphire]

Who is better rosa or sonja I got a lot of copies of rosa but idk if she needs a lot of investment

Could take her to ascended

[terse ginkgo]

This is my Dims status.
I may be capable of reaching 23 spirits by the end of the event. Wondering what path to take....

Keep Ainz A0 + Laios A5
Or Ainz A5 + Laios A0

[burnt moss]

Well apparently they might be a whale so maybe it's not distant for them

Distant for any sane person though

[unreal plank]

Should I upgrade Mishka or wait till I get Trishea?

[opaque cargo]

51k gems... should I use all on destiny/dimensional summons?

[burnt moss]

You don't even have 8 Mishka copies. You don't need to upgrade her yet over Trish

[unreal plank]

I need only 2 more copies of Mishka, right?

[burnt moss]

2 more copies. But you could also find 4 more copies of Trish before then

[compact sapphire]

Yo toast can u help me with this is rosa any good as a first ascended lightbearer (im still very early)

[burnt moss]

Rosaline will be more useful for bossing

Also pairs well with Shemira who is likely to be your first ascended graveborn

[compact sapphire]

Kk I guess I’ll take her up then

[tiny saffron]

noi

[late phoenix]

I feel like Laios should have more utility in the future

But mine is still only mythic

Can’t say for sure

[whole sentinel]

Which malour hero should i build

[tiny saffron]

whoever comes to you most. Only thesku and salaki are good in mauler rn

[scenic atlas]

guys in which banner should i pull? regular one or mercille copies. im f2p

or save?

[frank thistle]

depends on how old is your account, if newcomer - regular, if 1month+ then dims

[scenic atlas]

no i just started yesterday

[scenic atlas]

thank you

[plush cave]

Dimensional hero priority?

[frank thistle]

Shall > Arthur > Albedo > everyone else 😄

[plush cave]

Okay

[frank thistle]

E Ainz for Albedos skill (will cast 2 times)

[plush cave]

I upgrading my albedo then since i got no arthur.

i goof up and upgrade my ainz into legendary

[frank thistle]

not many have arthur 😄 because of f* paywall

[plush cave]

Yeah thanks for the answer bud.

[marble fractal]

Which hero should I choose for stargazer hero guys for beginner

[burnt moss]

Put "stargaze" in the discord search bar and I bet you'll find an answer in 2 minutes

[marble fractal]

Why r u kind of agressive bud, You dont have to answer

[burnt moss]

you need to learn how to find the simple answers on your own

relying on others for everything is not a good way to learn

[marble fractal]

Thanks for the advice, you are doing really serious job here

Once you are done building your hero, apply for life coach

[tiny saffron]

[high kestrel]

[tiny saffron]

1 mortas, then either save all, or use on whoever you want

[marble fractal]

Appreciate it 🙏

[blissful onyx]

What is the best arena offense/defense lineup?

[tiny saffron]

it depends on your heroes. F2p is wilders with trishea and/or solise. And shalltear obv

[blissful onyx]

I'm asking because I got f***cked by a M Trishea

[tiny saffron]

shall can counter her, and albedo+solise

[blissful onyx]

But I have Solice... I can have M Trish

So it's line up will be Mishka Shal Trish Solice + ??

[tiny saffron]

lyca tasi or neva

if defending it doesnt matter, someone will always beat you

so just do attacks last minute

[blissful onyx]

Oh okay...

I don't know if I'm really progressing... stopped pushing campaign and tower... and was just doing dailies...

[silver saffron]

Rosaline is my First lb 8 copys, do i keep her on whish List?

[pearl light]

Should I save my emblems or use them on trishea

[burnt moss]

get trish to +20 but don't do +30

[tiny saffron]

5 star everyone

[frank thistle]

1 copy mortas and twins, then just collect

[candid warren]

Actually no, there's 50 other people that don't know how to use Ctrl F also asking the same question. Best bet is to follow the library of resources in #faq-resources @marble fractal

[candid warren]

Not mortas or twins

They haven't done anything since 2023

If u get 1 copy of anything it'll be Mehira

Or Daemia

[candid warren]

Why

[candid warren]

U can go to 10 if you'd like, but u won't be engraving her for at least a year

[tiny saffron]

youre in wrong chat sis

[candid warren]

Oh so I am

No wonder there was so much white

[high kestrel]

@burnt moss zaraphael good?

[tardy shale]

Hello, can anyone help? A friend of mine doesnt know whether to build Ainz+Bedo or Laios+Marci

Any guidance?

[wide sequoia]

I kinda had the same and I did mythic bedo and laios and rest on marci

Having a dim team like that is not that strong in arena rn (probably because I am in the classic arena so dims dont get 50% more stats)

But I rest of gamemodes it works very very well I pushed a lot thanks to that, I feel like my solise and dims I never need to worry about them winning cuz they always do

Talene works really well with my dim team but i haven't tried anything else

[full jay]

1000% mythic albedo

and after that i did and discussion on that its either Marci or Ainz.

^

[tardy shale]

Ainz good against burst or good in burst?

[frank thistle]

Ainz + rosaline or rowan or both of them work rly good against Orthos (especially when you need to use your Shall or Wilders for another enemies).
He is also good in Ice Arena.
The main problem is that he casts late.

[full jay]

He has good burst and is also better against burst, because he has anti-cc build in aswell as a big shield + defense rating increase at that start of battle

...
Marci has a rebirth circle, that rebirths the first dead teammate, but is way more fragile and unforgiving in that case

that skill +

albedeos defense and atk ratting is just a lot of stat sticking

[tardy shale]

I see. It could be from ilvl diff idk. My Gwyn just one shot this Ainz with Belinda's buff in Arena. Positioning maybe

Oh not full build Ainz, that could be the reason

[kindred heath]

which to ascend first, rosaline or rowan?

[torn stag]

oku or nevanthi next?

[somber geode]

Should I push her further? Better put Laios to SI30 first? Get her to 5* or keep my SG cards for someone else? The only thing holding me back for now is the lack of mythic weapons

I could give her Talene's one though

[verbal scarab]

Couple questions about gear:

1. Are there more powerful and weaker versions of mythic gear?
2. Should you upgrade a mythic item that has no faction bonus? If not, is it possible to give it a faction bonus?
3. How do you get the reagents to change faction bonus?

[burnt moss]

1: just factional which you upgrade
2: no
3: can't

[verbal scarab]

ty

[hasty schooner]

Does anyone have a tier list?

Should i focus on Marcille or Laios?

[burnt moss]

Pins

Marcille and Laios a little too new to actually place on the tier list

Whether or not to get the new dimensionals depends on server age. If you just started then it's likely a skip

[tiny saffron]

show heroes, whos your dps

[tiny saffron]

nev

[vernal heath]

Can anyone explain to me how to use crassio? Does he require high si? The poor goat just keeps dying in seconds no matter where I use him

[burnt moss]

His best use is in bossing because he does indeed end up dying everywhere else. But he's also used in maulers tower where you don't have any other options for damage dealers

[vernal heath]

I see, thanks

[full jay]

well for high chapters, he is used a lot

[full jay]

What do you not understand about him?

whats your build for him atm?

[vernal heath]

He is 2 stars, but I don’t really want to invest in his si. Seems like a waste of emblems

[full jay]

well ofc he doesnt work like that 💀

you prob haven't read or understood his abilities

but for campaign, tower, forked fate etc. its a5 +20/+30
for dream realm / guild hunt its a3 +10

he is just an aoe cleave teleport assasin, that goes brr with invade comp (uses skregg a5 well) ... and needs the cc from skregg/tidius/athalia

Or well maybe survivability help from salaki

[vernal heath]

Guess I’m not quite there yet

Will make a ss of your answer just in case 🙂

[full jay]

is fine, he is one of the better heroes to invest in currently - maybe that tierlist will also help with minimum investments for you

[vernal heath]

Thanks

Guess his si will have to wait for now

[tiny saffron]

hes def not a priority, probably late game when nothing else to build

[compact sapphire]

does anyone know why it doesnt show my shemira asc on here

does it have to be built before a certain time cuz i hopped on that acc just to make shemira asc

[burnt moss]

That's something I should also figure out. My first ascended wilder isn't on there nor is my highest ascended wilder

[compact sapphire]

i know some heroes arent included, so i was thinking maybe its because i swapped daimon on that acc for shemira but who knows

ill try it again in a week or something

[kindred heath]

I also have M Marcille if that helps.

[tiny saffron]

rowan first

[wanton finch]

Does anyone know why the mercenaries tab isn't showing up? I'm on Chapter 8.

[coarse ledge]

huh a stage just sayd it gave me 5 silver emblems and didnt give me anything

[wanton finch]

IF I SWITCH MY COMPANION CHARACTER TO CLASSIC MODE, DO I LOSE MY RESOURCES?

[tiny saffron]

its two different games, same as changing servers, you will start a new account but won't lose the other.

[wanton finch]

ChatGPT told me I could transfer my resources from Companion to Classic (Diamond, etc.)

I've been trolled by an AI

[high kestrel]

In companions we can use combo thorn core like classic?

[coarse ledge]

what is combo thorn core?

we probably got lost in translation somewhere

[high kestrel]

I mean thoran

Like classic

If iam not worng the combo name is thoran cheese?

[unreal plank]

I have 1 hero selection chest. Should I make Shemira, Mishka, Rowan and Thesku to ascended level?

[tiny saffron]

yes

[tiny saffron]

i think you should just wait and use it on trishea instead

[unreal plank]

I can make Shemira withouth hero chest. Is it good Idea?

[tiny saffron]

yes, main damage in dream realm until belinda and gb tower, can be a carry too sometimes

[unreal plank]

Who is belinda?

[tiny saffron]

lightbearer mage, just look in your heroes

[unreal plank]

How many dimensional spiritis do I need to create ascended dimensional hero?

[tiny saffron]

13 for ascended, 23 for 5 star

[coarse ledge]

Not bad

Ainz does like 700m

[pearl light]

What should I focus on

[coarse ledge]

Yeah thoran cheese cant be performed in companions because thoran ultimate got modified to not be able to scale to infinite

[coarse ledge]

Trish>lyca

[pearl light]

Since I have full wind team what should I do when I get 8 copies of grezhul for example.

[coarse ledge]

you mean take him off wishlist like classic? we look for stars in companions tho

altho you would want like shemira or daimon first as graveborn, you can keep grehul in list for some stars

and eventually would be the choice to ascend yea

[pearl light]

Oh

[coarse ledge]

heroes in companions get effects when they get stars, wich would be like the engrave or furniture here

we dont have the hotel you just give the hero the stars and gets effects at 1, 3, 5 stars. its called divinity

and grez 5* is pretty good is the shields on the minions

[pearl light]

Got it I was wondering what divinity is, now I know

[unreal plank]

I've got last copy for mishka. Should I still wait Trishea?

[rough torrent]

I may have mixed the information with the classic one so I want to clarify

Which should I be priotizing on pulling, wilder or graveborn?

[unreal plank]

for companion server = wilder

[rough torrent]

Any reason why companion goes for wilder instead of grave

[unreal plank]

very strong heroes in wilder faction. And one of the best hero for signature item. For example you can build Trishea, Mishka and Nevanthi it will be enough for almost all game modes.

After you get 5 ascended heroes you will be able to get new very strong awakened hero

[rough torrent]

Ty, the info from #faq-resources messed me up lol

I assume this is primarily targeted for classic and not for companion?

https://bit.ly/afkarenaguide

[unreal plank]

yes, you can see it by heroes that aren't in the companion server

In general look at heroes and upgrade systems to differ

[rough torrent]

Aight thanks, the char confused me too since I kept looking for them at the wishlist when I just started a day after

[unreal plank]

I had the same problem 😂 . I've been playing for 8 days

[tiny saffron]

go mishka

[unreal plank]

thank you very much

[rough torrent]

Docs should atleast clarify that it's targeted for classic and not for companion since it tells u to get graveborn and priotize ascending 5 fodder before any else which seems are not something u do in companion

[unreal plank]

all available guides you can check in this chat in the pinned messages.

[rough torrent]

I'll look into those thanks

[solid wadi]

can you share all squad?

[coarse ledge]

no, im not proud of the rest

[solid wadi]

you can share it on dm im looking for options squads

[autumn zealot]

Hello everyone,
I just became a guild master and wanted to ask if someone knows how I can unlock the rewards from guild fight?

[tiny saffron]

if you mean the chests, your guild needs to achieve the damage indicated. If you mean the 2x rewards you just need to activate it

[autumn zealot]

ok thank you, i am gonna look when the next Round starts

[mild scarab]

I need a tank but I am not sure should I feed Hodgkin to mythic

Also is it ok to feed summonable heroes to get class up my wilder units since getting food for them is a struggle?

[tiny saffron]

why do you have 3 legend+ wilders, now youll get stuck

[mild scarab]

Isn't the point to build around a core faction?

[tiny saffron]

its a struggle because you spread all your fodders, youre supposed to focus in 1 hero per faction and not upgrade anyone until you have 4-8 copies of them

[mild scarab]

Makes sense

Which Mauler hero should I build up?

[tiny saffron]

salaki thesku

[coarse ledge]

shemira and belinda are too low tho

[kindred heath]

can I ask why?

[tiny saffron]

you dont rly have a dps thats good for rosa, some of them are belinda, gwyn, etc. Rowan would be more useful to make your team survive at this time

[rough torrent]

at what chapter should I start using the chest/piles? currently just reached chapter 10

[tiny saffron]

whenever you need. Only use when you need some to upgrade, dont use all

[rough torrent]

so there's no "best" time to use it? since Im assuming the matz coming from these also accumulate the further I go with the campaign

[tiny saffron]

Best time is when youve reached your limit and very stuck everywhere. Dont listen to those who tell you to keep saving even after that, as progressing more in camp and forked will give higher dust. You should use it wisely and only when needed for the best efficiency. You will get stuck on exp anyway because of golden frontier

[rough torrent]

also another thing, regarding diamonds, do I just keep dumping it on the banner that uses the "common hero scroll" or should I save it elsewhere since I might it on whatever Ill unlock later

I also been thinking on the destiny summon just cuz of marcille

[tiny saffron]

its way too early to be saving diamonds (but save all destinies). Atleast have 5-10 ascended or high stars before you do that. And marcille won't carry you unless you max both with laios and even build albedo. There are better 4f than them early-mid

[rough torrent]

what color is ascended? is it the white one

[tiny saffron]

yes

[rough torrent]

okay so I'll keep throwing it right now, was just worried since I might use it on later where I need to purchase something important using them , or there a banner that unlocks where I can spend it there for better , guess Ill use it now thanks

[rough torrent]

I should prioritize getting 1 of each faction to ascended I assume?

[tiny saffron]

yes but wilders are priority

[rough torrent]

okay thanks

[mild scarab]

Which one should be picked?

[pastel gyro]

twins

[silver saffron]

In the faw Resources it says, that you should use the dust chest after ch 28, because the amount doesnt increase after that. Can I use them before that as well? My Heroes are currently lvl 160. Is there a "best time" to use them before ch 28?

[tiny saffron]

@silver saffron i think thats for classic

[rough moon]

How am I doing for 6 days F2P? I have the l+ silvina because I’m gonna use her to ascend daimon when I get enough copies

[cobalt coral]

That s good

Keep focusing on wilders and use diamonds for Normal banner

Your next wilder should be Trishea and Lyca

[marble fractal]

You don't need L+ Silvina to ascend Daimon. You will need 2 E+ Daimon. If I'm not wrong. (Ive made the same mistake)

[rough moon]

I need an l+ hero to get him mythic

[marble fractal]

Oh ye you are right. mb

[rough torrent]

been wondering, if we only need 1 character ascended to get everyone on the same level, what is the reason for needing 1 of each in every faction?

[tiny saffron]

you need everyone ascended to be strong and useful, not only levels.

[tribal loom]

Excuse me just a question

If I already have shemira ascendant 5* , do I need to keep copy of shemira for her ascendance in the future? Or it's not required and I can use shemira copy as food ? Ty

[obtuse dove]

https://www.reddit.com/r/AFKArenaCompanions/comments/1i2jt55/temple_of_transcendent/

if u plan for this, then keep. If not, then feed someone using her.

[late depot]

maybe someone experienced can help me. I have Shaltear and Marcille at 5 stars. I want to start making the third one and I have the choice of Ainz, Albedo and Laios. Which one should I upgrade now and why?

which will be most useful?

[tiny saffron]

albedo is the most important for dimensionals. Laios is important for marcille

[tribal loom]

I plan to have the shemira ascended (with the reskin)

[tiny saffron]

mythic or 3 star albedo with +30 sig is good. Laios needs 3 star atleast

[tiny saffron]

just wait for fodders

[cobalt coral]

Should I go for Laios 5*? I have Marci 5 and Laios 3, also one spirit on the bench

[shadow fox]

how unlock trancend ?

where is the temple ?

[cobalt coral]

You need to have 25 5* heroes for it to unlock

[shadow fox]

Asolise ?

i have 25 but Asolice in

[cobalt coral]

If you have 25 5* units go to Temple of Ascension

[shadow fox]

blocked

[cobalt coral]

Solise does not count??

what

[tiny saffron]

dims dont count iirc

[cobalt coral]

Try to restart the game maybe

[cobalt coral]

They count

[tiny saffron]

i searched and its solise that doesnt

[shadow fox]

beacause she created ?

[tiny saffron]

.

[cobalt coral]

Try your best to get 2 Skreg

[rough moon]

Is it worth pulling on dimensional or should I save for next dimensional?

Also how do you get the previous dimensional heroes since it looks like one of them is good but I don’t see a way to get past dimensionals

[tiny saffron]

if f2p and below chapter 25, save. You also cant get the previous ones unless theres a collab again or they implement something to make us able to

[rough moon]

Rip

Alright then, I’ll wait for a good dimensional then

Just sitting on the free summons from the event right now haha

[terse ginkgo]

Asol doesn't count

[pearl light]

In what order should I upgrade my wind units

[tiny saffron]

trish lyca mishka, then whoever gets enough copies with neva oku

[pastel moss]

Is Marcille worth taking all the way to 5* before building Laios? I have albedo/shaltear at 3* too. Currently have 4 spirits so can 5* her or switch to Laios

[tiny saffron]

5, its divinity is important

[pastel moss]

Yeah that's why I asked, 5* divinity seems strong. Thanks

[rapid geyser]

Who to focus next ?

[tiny saffron]

uhh whoever comes ofcourse, but trish and gwyn

and you dont need shalltear that high, just make them all 321 instead

you need lots of sig item to upgrade too, esp albedo

[rapid geyser]

Its hard to get

I need 4 more levels for ASolise to 30

[rapid geyser]

She is 340 from few weeks ago

I didn't have much resources ( exp ) so i went all in for her

[tiny saffron]

you can always reset in rickety cart, though do what you want

[rapid geyser]

No need its slow progress again

Before 300 lvl on heroes essence was problem , now essence is not problem but exp

[rough torrent]

what are the other use for dust later in the game?

[tiny saffron]

just levels. Youd start getting too much of them and lack exp starting 300 but now even lower because of golden frontier

[rough torrent]

oh okay , thanks

[silver saffron]

Can you reset the signiture item as well and get the resources back? I dont really wanna test it and waste the items.

[tiny saffron]

no

[unreal plank]

How many spots for players are in the max lvl guild?

[terse ginkgo]

30

[unreal plank]

what will be here?

[tiny saffron]

cross server guilds in 5 years

[unreal plank]

😁

[silver saffron]

Alright, I got my first Ascended now, but ig I will still only buy SG cards from arena store right? Unfortunately with my / koop rank I only get around 80k points in total, so I can only buy one or the other.

[tiny saffron]

Emblems prio always. Buying sg from there isnt worth

[silver saffron]

hmm two different guides in this channel say that they are a must buy, thats why im asking.

[tiny saffron]

idk where they got that idea but i dont recommend that. If you buy all sg from there you can only buy how much, 15 silver/gold?
Buying the red chests alone costs 40k which is higher prios

[terse ginkgo]

Nothing

[tiny saffron]

and thats considering you get top 50 and your duo in cs arena. Lower ones got even lower coins. Emblems > sg

[silver saffron]

So I get the 2 red chest 100% and then gold emblems? I think in the beginning I need more silver then gold ones to reach the minimum investment. My Shemira "only" needs SI 0, Mishka SI 10 and Trish is the only one with 20. So I will safe my gold ones for Trish, but I still need 2 copys for 8.

[tiny saffron]

pretty sure youll get more silver in early

what i recommend is:
Early game (chap 25 below) - Gold > silver > red chests

Mid game - same

Late game (35+) - Red > silver > gold

Distribute the coins as with how much you think you need each. No need to max buy all, you can choose to buy just half, you get it.

Then when theres no one else worth building, you can then stop prio emblems and buy only red, and the rest sg's if you want.

[silver saffron]

yes thats true. I have around 150 silver & 30 gold. I just wasnt sure how many silver you need to get SI 10. But yeah, that makes sense. Do you know how many silver & golds you need in total for SI 10 & 20?

[tiny saffron]

220, 240, 300

[silver saffron]

Thanks! One last question, when do I upgrade my equipment? Mythic items or Mythic + correct faction?

[tiny saffron]

mythic with any faction is fine. Correct faction prio ofc

[unreal plank]

how rare is this?

[torn stag]

who should be my next +20? have trishea lyca and mishka

[unreal plank]

trishea +30 will be the best

[torn stag]

I was asking about my +20 since I have enough for a +20 and have trishea lyca and mishka at +20 already

[unreal plank]

my bad, marcille should be fine

[torn stag]

and trishea +30 over asolise?

[unreal plank]

https://onedrive.live.com/personal/427b2828109cc35c/_layouts/15/Doc.aspx?sourcedoc={dd6509fa-c37d-49b8-bde3-ee3e0601a784}&action=default&redeem=aHR0cHM6Ly8xZHJ2Lm1zL3gvYy80MjdiMjgyODEwOWNjMzVjL0Vmb0paZDE5dzdoSnZlUHVQZ1lCcDRRQmN5d1lMT0tHTThhQUFNRDdFZUtMTVE_ZT1RY3FYZUU&slrid=45eb9aa1-a09e-c000-959c-0d7da4bd073b&originalPath=aHR0cHM6Ly8xZHJ2Lm1zL3gvYy80MjdiMjgyODEwOWNjMzVjL0Vmb0paZDE5dzdoSnZlUHVQZ1lCcDRRQmN5d1lMT0tHTThhQUFNRDdFZUtMTVE_cnRpbWU9WC1OWmNEaUwzVWc&CID=e0c7c7e6-8807-4cf6-ab1a-74cb9a6aac05&_SRM=0:G:35

check forever tier list for detailed info

[marble fractal]

any spending priorities list guys? I couldn't find for companions

[verbal scarab]

For signature items

For dust generally wilders are stronger, for shop that

Its in pins

[tiny saffron]

yes

needs 3 star though

[tiny saffron]

everyone gets that early

[tiny saffron]

rowan 30 is ass lol why is that up there

[verbal scarab]

good question kek, i dont know jack so i assumed that was correct

🤷‍♂️

[tiny saffron]

[thorn holly]

Because the others Are worse

And Tbh i dont think Its Bad i made him si30 too and hes Great

[thorn holly]

At least back then when the Picture was made

[compact sapphire]

Do you guys think I should build Lyca or nevanthi next

[tiny saffron]

lyca

[compact sapphire]

thank you will do

[hollow sedge]

In Afk companion we have inter-server event or guild in a moment ?

[tiny saffron]

event yes, guild no

[hollow sedge]

Thanks

[grim arch]

Who do i pick from this?

[half sapphire]

Trishea

[eternal dagger]

should i wait for one more trishea or go mishka rn? i can get +1 from chest, there is also option with lyca but my main carry right now is marci

[tiny saffron]

wait for trishea. Also you need a few more fodders and you should be able to make both mishka and trish anw
And marci wont do anything in higher stages if you dont have laios and bedo built

[knotty chasm]

Should i build ainz or marcille?

or laios

I only have 23 dim spirits atm

[twin siren]

Which heroes should I focus on

[tiny saffron]

if you cant both new dims, none. If you have atleast bedo, marc

[tiny saffron]

wrong chat

[high kestrel]

maybe cause all team get benefit like lyca?

[obtuse dove]

Rowan SI30 is just mid. Luceus should update the the beginner guide soon.

[thorn holly]

Hey i have a question regarding the forever tierlist

[obtuse dove]

you should tag Sailus for him to see Cayan

[thorn holly]

How Are The dims or even cele hypos rated Regarding the faction tower

[thorn holly]

I think many of You guys Are able to answer me so why bother him but thanks 🙂

[thorn holly]

To be more specific marcille is place 20 Right, is her Overall Rating nerfed by her Not being in Every Game Mode

[honest valley]

How can people answer that if they aren’t the creator of the tier list?

You should tag the creator with a question like that, as the person above suggested.

Also there’s no faction tower for dims and likely never will be. When they get rankings there it’s for the main tower.

[obtuse dove]

Personally, the only 2 things I care are DR and Arena. Marcille is good/great at both, but she's just not OP/Shalltear-level/future-proof enough for me. So I'm just holding dim spirits and play the waiting game while shamelessly borrowing her from my partners.

[tiny saffron]

[thorn holly]

@rich cape .

[thorn holly]

Because he explains his Rating System in the 2. tab i thought Maybe i didnt quite understand it

[unreal plank]

guys, is golden frontier connected to guilds? Or it will be random alliances?

[obtuse dove]

[terse ginkgo]

Random

Then, if you decide to drop league to play with your peers, you'll get a restrictions that won't allow you to claim afk rewards for 2 says and 3 days without ceremony rewards

[unreal plank]

It will be my first golden frontier. Any advice?

[terse ginkgo]

Top 1 advice: do not be a nerd like make who prepares excel tables foreseeing the resources, upgrades and attacks 15 days in advance

[unreal plank]

is it good idea to try create alliance with strongest guildes?

[terse ginkgo]

Yep. The respurce gap between top and bad is huge

We were getting nearly 2.4k diamonds per day

[obtuse dove]

Look for the strongest league to join; do everything to increase your level/power; don't say jokes; Profits.

[terse ginkgo]

By the end of S1. On top of that normally more than 1 SG per day and a few symbols.

So playing with the best pays off hardly

[unreal plank]

how many people can be placed in 1 league?

[terse ginkgo]

160 in s2

It was 200 before

[unreal plank]

whait is s2?

[terse ginkgo]

But even as a newbie you can get high power if playing actively, so you wont get kicked

Season 2

[unreal plank]

is it current season?

[terse ginkgo]

The season starting tomorrow is season 2

[unreal plank]

will I get badge for season 1?

[terse ginkgo]

Well, tomorrow starts the enrollment. Event starts in 5 days from now

S1 is over already

[unreal plank]

is it cross-server event?

[terse ginkgo]

S2 has a new and different frame as reward

It is region based. Regions are a cluster of servers (5-15, it varies)

[unreal plank]

so there is no sense in collaborating between guildes that are on new server?

[tiny saffron]

whahaha i remember

[obtuse dove]

[terse ginkgo]

Servers are together
Like we are servers 1 to 6

[tiny saffron]

regions are close to your server

[terse ginkgo]

Then 7 to 14

15 to 30, something like that

[rich cape]

Look at ‘INFO_TierList’

It’s on the top as text

[unreal plank]

what regions are close to 162 server? 156-162? But guilds in the previous servers will be stronger 100%

[tiny saffron]

idk sis, just wait for your warzone chat

[unreal plank]

i'm him

👱‍♂️

[tiny saffron]

okay gurl, wait for warzone chat

and the gap is not that big

it seems s76 up will not be getting s3 anytime soon

[unreal plank]

what does it mean? I don't get these seasons mechanic

[tiny saffron]

thats vault of time

[unreal plank]

what season is in 162 server?

server is 9 days old

[tiny saffron]

1

[unreal plank]

thank you

[restive sonnet]

what characters should i ascend? i’m starting to struggle in the campaign

[silver saffron]

After which chapter does mythic equipment drop from afk rewards?

[honest bear]

Mythic equipment starts dropping in chapter 31

[tiny saffron]

wilders, esp mishka trish. And dont upgrade till 4-8 copies obtained

[restive sonnet]

have i already messed up my acc 😭

[unreal plank]

it's not so bad

[tiny saffron]

3 of those are fodders so youll use those, its fine

[restive sonnet]

so don’t upgrade the wilders until 3-4 copies of what rarity?

[unreal plank]

4-8 copies of good heroes mythic+

check tier list in pins

[restive sonnet]

oh yeah i have those in my wish list thing

so i need 4-8 mythic+ versions of 1 character?

[unreal plank]

yes

[restive sonnet]

wow

how do i get past legendary+? it shows as max for me

[unreal plank]

it will be like this

[restive sonnet]

so you’re keeping a lot of them at epic+?

[unreal plank]

all of them😁

[restive sonnet]

how do you decide which characters to sacrifice to ascend? i usually just use smart ascend and put whatever it lets me to level the character up

[unreal plank]

blue characters are food and should be used as a food

you can upgrade them till legendary+

[restive sonnet]

ok i think i get it ty

[steep yoke]

How many dimensional spirits for up a hero ?

Who s the priority in the new coloc hero ?

I only got the new

[tiny saffron]

23, you dont have albedo so i dont recommend

[knotty chasm]

Do we know if the next ascended hero will be a mauler?

[steep yoke]

Why I need albedo ?

[tiny saffron]

her sig item, the new dims arent that good themselves without it

[tiny saffron]

nope

[clever sphinx]

Hihi. How is Silas used? I’ve been trying to slot him into teams since I have him ascended but I’m not sure if he’s contributing anything

[tiny saffron]

i personally dont use him at all hes anti heal right, maybe wait for someone who does

[plush cave]

When should i use the chest that gives Hero's essence?

[honest bear]

Pretty much when you need it. I wouldn't worry about the "dust wall". The real wall is hero EXP. I'd save the EXP chests until chapter 37 min!

[unreal plank]

is it okay? It's the first time in my life when server is under maintenance during work hours.

[rough torrent]

they did announce a maintenance in the mail

[unreal plank]

yesterday or today?

[rough torrent]

today for me (gmt+8)

[half sapphire]

Golden frontier today?

[rough torrent]

seems like it judging from #companions-updates

[half sapphire]

Oh ok ok

[pearl light]

Will raine replace anyone in wishlist?

[rough torrent]

is there a priority in ascending characters on each faction? or is it a whoever I get first is who I ascend first

[tiny saffron]

no, get 1 copy then put it back, shes secondary

[tiny saffron]

depends, if you get weak heroes then obv you wait for the strong if no fodder

[plush cave]

Okay thanks dude

[rough torrent]

allright

also say a char has reach the white border, is there a point in keeping copies of the same char or no more?

[honest bear]

[tiny saffron]

till 5 star, its needed in companions cz divinity

[median basalt]

Thoughts about the new hero?

[half sapphire]

Shoul i wait or up trish?

Or wait for eiron need 1 copy to ascend him

[tiny saffron]

wait trish, no rush as she needs 3 star

[tiny saffron]

for whales obv

[half sapphire]

Okey

[rough moon]

Is this elite hero summons worth it for this selection of heroes? Or should I pull on dimensional to work on marcille? Or should I save for next dimensional?

[wide sequoia]

In my opinion always save for dims

[rough moon]

Okay

[frosty furnace]

What’s current suggested prio for dims? And should we go all in on summon or wait for better hero?

[tiny saffron]

both or neither

[proud wharf]

what's the name of the guiding character from the tutorial again? i forgot

[tiny saffron]

how do they look like

[proud wharf]

the blonde girl who talks to you at the start

@tiny saffron

[tiny saffron]

belinda? cant you check in heroes tab?

[cobalt coral]

It s not Belinda

She s not a playable character, I forgot her name

[proud wharf]

i thought the tutorial girl was blonde, but her hair is white

just saw her on my screen just now

white hair blue and white shirt

[rough torrent]

okay thanks

[raw oar]

which of the current dims is better laios or marcille?
I got laios to acsended but am ebating between getting him up to 5 star before focusing marcille

[clever sphinx]

I can get either Brutus or Skreg to mythic… who would benefit more from becoming mythic? I have a lot of fodders for mauler so I think its ok to upgrade one hero.

[raw oar]

brutus immunity comes in clutch

[tiny saffron]

brutus item is useless, skreg

[tiny saffron]

need both or neither at all. Albedo is pretty much necessary too if you want them to be good

[raw oar]

so I should focus getting marcille to the same level before worrying about divinity?

[tiny saffron]

5 star or useless

[raw oar]

got it

[frosty jacinth]

Should i go laios A1->A3 or albedo to m, even tho im still a bit away getting her si to 30?

Got marcille/shall a5

[tiny saffron]

both but bedo first if you can

[frank thistle]

Albedo > Lai

[prime kite]

I’ve got an A5 Albedo, an A3 Shalltear, and an A1 Ainz, Laois, and Marcille. I’ve got 8 spirits. What do y’all think I should do with em?

[tiny saffron]

max Ainz if cannot max both Lai and Marc

Ainz/Marc> Lai

[brave minnow]

Signature item tier list?

[late phoenix]

Is Lai that bad?

[mild scarab]

Should I feed Eiron to Lyca I kinda bottlenecked myself with wilders?

[frank thistle]

no.

there is no reason to spend ascendable heroes as fodder

[mild scarab]

Ok ty

[honest field]

When was the overlord units introduced to companions?

[fringe nest]

i have 23 spirits right now, i don’t know if i go for a3 albedo or a5 marcille

[tiny saffron]

january

[tiny saffron]

well whats albedo gonna do if no dim to use her, marcille if you can make both with laios

[honest field]

Oh that was just a few months ago

They ain't doing any rerelease anytime soon T_T

[unreal plank]

How to invite friends to this channel?

[tiny saffron]

first one was years ago

[tiny saffron]

afk channel? send them the invite link?

[unreal plank]

I can't create. The invite link can't be copied and I can't send this invitation in discord.

the button is unclickable

[tiny saffron]

discordgg/afkarena

put dot between dc n gg

[unreal plank]

be carefull buddy, 1 report and you're out 😂

[tiny saffron]

why😗 its their link

[unreal plank]

i am not a n gg

[tiny saffron]

ohh i didnt even notice

[tiny saffron]

wait did you actually misunderstood or were you joking 😬

[unreal plank]

man, it was clearly n-word

[tiny saffron]

wahaha thats crazy

between dc n (and) gg

n= and, got it sissy? i rly thought you werent that dum

[obtuse dove]

English is not his first language ^

[tiny saffron]

nah uh just too sensitive and brain rt

i get it though

[obtuse dove]

[proud wharf]

Backed out of a menu offering a free zaphreal, is there any way to get back there to claim him?

[late mica]

"Before 15 meta 4f ascended"
this means to have 15 different heroes of the 4 normal factions at ascended rank? that takes a lot of time

[tawny wyvern]

Stuck on chapter 7 should I hold on trying to get Legendary+ or do I not have enough copies for that

[rough moon]

To get a hero to legendary+ you need to have 2 elite+ of that hero and 2 elite+ fodder. I think you have plenty of fodder for that but it looks like you need some more hero copies for legendary+

[unreal plank]

you need higher lvl on heroes

[sonic matrix]

Is zaphreal worth summoning?

[tawny wyvern]

Should I just upgrade my fodder to just Legendary or should I hold until I can get them to legendary+ for the levels?

[rough moon]

I would first make one legendary+ and then keep the rest elite+ until you can upgrade the hero you want to mythic

A legendary+ fodder hero would take 2 of the same copy of elite+ and two random (one elite+ copy plus 2 random for legendary and then another elite+ copy for legendary+)

[tawny wyvern]

Ty

[full jay]

Worth the waste if you also want to summon 1200 scrolls on him, just to summon another 1200 for Zolrath to make him work in pvp for a mid-tier char that is performing aswell as as a skriath in pvp.

[sonic matrix]

So what I'm understanding from this is that he's only good in pvp

I got 30k+ diamonds
Should I use those for dimensional spirit

[full jay]

if you can hit a milestone with it -> yes

you should try to stop on a milestone but also count your pity timer (60) and try to time them together to finish on.

[sonic matrix]

i may not be good, but what i understood, is that you can get a bunch of those dimensional spirits and invest them in a good hero later

[full jay]

Yes, dim souls will always be good becuase some dimensionals are crazy strong - but if you have nothing to build them on, you're also weakening yourself for the time.

You want to balance it out so that you're atleast in the top 30 in dream realm and top 100 in the regional arena

[sonic matrix]

i mean, i got the 2 new dim heroes that came out.

are those not good to invest in atm?

[full jay]

eh, a bit ressource hungry, marci can be good if you get her high enough, check the ressources and what other f2p people say

I wasn't that active on my f2p lately / didnt push / didnt test out a lot.

I'm happy with my a5 marci on the f2p account tho.

but needs 23 souls

so 1150 pulls (-50 for every milestone soul) - was like arround 700 pulls for me

30k gems are not that much if you do not have a lot of divinity scrolls

or w/e they are called

[sonic matrix]

this game is not very friendly for f2p

[full jay]

i mean if you're ressourceful you can do a lot, you shouldn't compare to p2w its a gaccha aswell as a mobile game

[sonic matrix]

lets say all my spirits went into marci, would it not be enough for her to be decent to use

[full jay]

well can you pull 700 times?

if you have 23 souls - she is decend enough imo

[sonic matrix]

700 is the minimum investment??

[full jay]

no but the competitive investment

wait i will log in my f2p

[sonic matrix]

i downloaded this game cause i saw "afk" in the title, thinking i can play this game in a chill way.

[full jay]

you can, im giving you competitive advice though

[sonic matrix]

it was totally bait lol. i downloaded it as a way to pass time while at work

[sonic matrix]

yes, i appreciate it. thanks a lot

[full jay]

idk if you want to chill but take advice from competitive gamers in the discord, ofc its gonna be rough if you're not streamlining optimal f2p methods

as you say its not that friendly if you're not ressourceful

I do not believe that the minimum investment is to get her to a5, but I believe if you want a useful single hero carry that you atleast need her on a1 +20 which is still like 17 souls (like idk. 500ish pulls)

or a3 +20 is also significant

and a5 just makes her fragile self a bit more useful as single carry bc a cheat death on the team is always nice to have.

i do not know your usecase

[sonic matrix]

i can show u my inv and stuff for you to get a better idea of my situation.

[full jay]

but like this acc is 21 days old and i didnt even bother that much with it, didnt do everything that i could yet in peaks of time

[sonic matrix]

yea, i do ask from time to time when i find free time to invest a bit into the game.

lemme see how many spirits i got

[sonic matrix]

this in 21 days 🥲

damn f2p too?

[full jay]

its my full f2p

[sonic matrix]

just wow

what would u like to see in my account

[full jay]

still have that first purchase

was testing what a f2p account can manage to do, since a lot of people as you say are bothering with it a lot and are unhappy with what they can do

wall of legends placements in campaign, forked fate - your inbox of heroes, aswell as you telling your average rank at the end of the arena season / dream realm

[sonic matrix]

@full jay lmk if i missed anything

Appranrently i have a lot of fod

10-17 in forked

[full jay]

Meant like these:

[full jay]

have to push forked fate again, but was a bit busy lately - to deal with my accounts

that aside, do you want the competitive node or just general advice on what to do with the current account that you have?

like if you do not care about competitive placement and just want to build on this account along the lines - its fine.

if you care about placements, restart on a new server

better placements = more free resources = better performance = more fun

but also forces you to collect every 12h, push every once in a while through after reaching level goals or when having the chance to duo with a whale

if you want to continue focus on the red outlined heroes - pull wilders with your faction cards

and enjoy the ride while other people slowly quit on your server

shemira is also good and fine, but if you can get daimon or mira higher up first, it'll be better and easier

[sonic matrix]

i dont think i have the time nor energy to invest that muhc into the game, i think im happy with just progressing throught the campaign and from time to time play the events and challenges like battle arena and guild.

[full jay]

thats fine, then you can enjoy the ride, you'll generally be able to catch up because its a mobile game and ppl tend to quit

in classic they fusioned server regions for some things like guilds and such - but in companions we dont have that yet

pretty much follow the stuff that is pinned, you can try to get marcielle to mythic but im not sure whether that is worth it, you might end up with her on legendary+ which would be a bit sad

on mythic she'd probably help you for now, but probably not as much as you think

[surreal gale]

priorities ? Marcille A5 or Laios A3 ?

[late mica]

any artifact is good?

[tiny saffron]

theres nothing like that, you may be referring to arena trials in events but its not free character

[tiny saffron]

wat artifact

[tiny saffron]

both

[proud wharf]

@tiny saffron yeah it said summon, but I thought it was a free one because I clicked off so fast xd

[late mica]

any of those, i never see in hot any artidact

[tiny saffron]

theres no artifact in companions

[late mica]

mybad

wrong chat

[proud wharf]

How do partners in arena work?

[tiny saffron]

you can use their heroes vice versa, only up to ascended no stars

just same as campaign

[sharp jungle]

Who after shallbedo?

[tiny saffron]

Either max Ainz or max Both, depends how much you can

[rough torrent]

is it still possible to be able to pull for previous dim characters?

[rough moon]

What is the highest level of gear? Is it mythic? I just don’t want to enhance my gear pointlessly if it’s not the top level

[tiny saffron]

no, unless they collab again or they put garrison feature from classic

[tiny saffron]

mythic with faction

[rough moon]

Okay, thanks

[rough torrent]

ah Ig no chance to get the overlord chars, rip I keep seeing how meta they are

a bit dumb for collab chars to be meta

[rough moon]

I’ve been putting off enhancement because it’s useless to enhance something below max I would assume

[tiny saffron]

yes

[tiny saffron]

how would they earn

[rough moon]

Should I do Rowan or gwyneth to ascended?

[tiny saffron]

depends if you need a dps, gwyneth the best lb

[tiny saffron]

[obtuse dove]

[rough moon]

Okay, yeah, I don't really have a good dps, I have mishka but most campaign comps seems to use more than one dps and I don't have a strong marcille

[high kestrel]

Should i A5 laios?

[coarse ledge]

Im screwed, at this point will be far from 5* marci 1* laios goal, so. Ditch laios?

[nocturne nymph]

5* Shalltear, 5* Marci, M Laios

[coarse ledge]

shalt just for stats? not fan of her 5* divinity, if anything i sometimes need her 30 but wont do that

cuz she fails to burst

[late phoenix]

Her 30 isn’t really a priority at all

[coarse ledge]

Neither the 5*

[wide sequoia]

Isn't shall 5* an extra rez ?

[thorn holly]

No

Her 3*

[wide sequoia]

My bad

[honest bear]

Lenneth

[silent pagoda]

so question regarding pinned post: https://discordapp.com/channels/441477431501783060/1301259004407971840/1353995184018292817

so the ones on the right are better champs then the ones on teh left or how should i see that?

[tiny saffron]

yes, prios then replace with the right ones after 5 star

[silent pagoda]

and if i have more copies due luck of the right at a point do just insat use them isntead one of the right?

[tiny saffron]

you mean use as food?

[silent pagoda]

yes could but also shift focus from one of the left to one of the right

as in i have a mira and treznor at same rarity , i can boost treznor and focsus him first instead of mira

[tiny saffron]

well i just said you have to replace, and no you can use them for transcendence the extra copies

[silent pagoda]

ok think i got it thx

[sharp jungle]

Hungry dungeon chars don't beat out ainz? Marcille?

[sullen lake]

Hello is there any guide on dimensional ? I have Shalltear max, Albedo max, Ainz elite, Laios elite and Marcille elite. I have 34 Dimensional Spirit and i'm wondering who should i push to max or 1* ....

[rough moon]

Should I pull to get dimensional spirits just to save up or should I just keep the scrolls as are?

I haven’t upgraded either marcille or laios yet, I just got one copy of each from the free chests

I missed the other dimensionals

[hearty rain]

With 13 dim spirits what can I upgrade a unit up to

[terse estuary]

That’s the exact amount to go from Elite to Ascended 0 Stars.

[rough moon]

I think I’m gonna use my dimensional scrolls, they’ll at least get me fodder for my other heroes even if I don’t use the dimensional spirits right away

[tiny saffron]

summoner enemies-marcille, non-summon- ainz
the difference is, ainz only needs albedo while marcille needs albedo and laios

[obtuse dove]

[tiny saffron]

[sullen lake]

?

[hybrid vessel]

Who should i build as f2p?

[thorn holly]

Tbh Hard Choice i would Go for Albedo 3* or marcille 5

[wide sierra]

Optimal wishlist for fresh account/Server?

[tiny saffron]

pins

[tiny saffron]

save babe

[hybrid vessel]

That’s what i thought

[rough torrent]

on the store, should I spend my diamonds purchasing the "Capture Permit" and/or "Primordial Emblem"?

[digital canyon]

is there an updated tierlist anywhere?

[coarse ledge]

Wtf arena play now for free. Still lost but kekw

[tiny saffron]

neither, only buy red chests in chapter 35+, anywhere below is either tavern summons or save

emblems must be bought in arena shop

[tiny saffron]

none

[rough torrent]

aight thanks

[coarse ledge]

no code for companions?

we should get one too

[rough torrent]

at what chapter should I start bothering to level up signatures?

[tiny saffron]

asap

[rough torrent]

is there a priority for it? so far thhe only characters I have signature on rn are rowan and mishka

also currently on ch17

[tiny saffron]

both are great at +20, idk if theres a list but there are priorities for sure, i recommend you read their descriptions to know if they're useful or not yourself and if upgrading more is worth

[rough torrent]

is +20 like considered the minimum investment?

[tiny saffron]

no, there are heroes that needs only unlocked, +10, 20, 30

mishka and rowan are 20 prios, same with lyca, trish, mira, solise, rosa, gwyn

[rough torrent]

gotcha thanks

what about for daimon? forgot I also got his signature

[tiny saffron]

i dont use him, but 20 too😗

[rough torrent]

all right, guess I'll up mishka for now, thanks

[late phoenix]

Should I get Trish to +30 already or wait until I get some stars on her?

[tiny saffron]

strong at 1, best at 3

[late phoenix]

One copy away from 1* 😔

Game keeps giving me useless heroes

[wide sequoia]

You lucky I only got 1 elite+ copy of her since her release 🥲

[tiny saffron]

sg her to max like i did

[late phoenix]

Crazy 😭

Even crazier that she’s actually better than all the celehypos

[tawny wyvern]

This should be enough fodder to get either Lyca or Mishka to mythic+?

[tiny saffron]

10 elite+ for that

[mild gale]

Who should I pick from the box? And how should I form my team?

[sullen lake]

Who to push

[high kestrel]

Marci A5

[full jay]

personally - Ainz A5

bc he will do better on +20 a5 and wont need as much investment and is also great on +30 a5

Marci has higher highs, but a lot lower lows than Ainz- both perform really well tho

[thorn holly]

Trust iperx

Hes my guy when it come to Tips

[fading meadow]

Hello! I have heard, for classic at least, at the start you should ascend 5 fodder before your main heroes. Is this true for companions as well?

[tiny saffron]

not really, its different here cz we dont have op heroes so we need to upgrade for stats and sig item. You can do that though, but i think its better if you have 1-2 mythic atleast at the start and use your duos heroes too. Dont upgrade heroes until you can make them straight to mythic or ascended (4-8 copies)

you can also swap levels anytime with any hero so you only need one high rank hero to make them the same level, not all 5

[fading meadow]

Okay thank you, very helpful. What do you mean only 1 needs to be high rank. Are you referring to the resonance crystal?

This is what I’ve got so far

[median basalt]

Who to stargaze if I don’t want to save xd

[tiny saffron]

resonance yes, you can swap the high rank with any hero then level up the high rank, swap and so on until you make all 5 the same without upgrading them. Also it seems you've upgraded them to legend so youll be stuck for a while because of lack of fodders, focus 1 hero per faction

[tiny saffron]

its totally up to you, talene is good. But whoever you want is fine

[fading meadow]

Ah okay, so from here I should just wait till I have enough copies of one of them to take to mythic

[tiny saffron]

ascended preferably

[fading meadow]

Okay, and I’m trying to understand what you mean with the crystal, sorry. Can you explain what I need to do from here?

When you say rank you mean E, L, L+, etc.?

[full jay]

first pin explains terminology and much more

[fading meadow]

I’ve already read that, I was asking what they meant by “rank”, I.e., level of hero or elite, legendary, mythic

[tiny saffron]

latter sis

[fading meadow]

Okay, I still don’t understand how I am supposed to swap then upgrade then swap back, I can’t upgrade if they aren’t on the pentagram

I appreciate the help, sorry for the confusion

[tiny saffron]

Lets say your mishka is mythic, and the rest is elite+. Only mishka can be upgraded to a certain level right? because of the restriction

[fading meadow]

Yuh

[tiny saffron]

You can swap mishka with any elite+, then the elite+ will bypass the restriction and get mishka's level

then

mishka will get the elite+ level so ofcourse you have to upgrade mishka again

[fading meadow]

Ohhhhh

[tiny saffron]

then do the same till you get all 5

[fading meadow]

Thank you sm

Okay another question, who is my best dps carry, trishea?

Mishka always has high dps but I know she’s considered a tank

From what I understand it’s best to upgrade 1 dps > 1 tank > 3 supports

[tiny saffron]

mishka, lyca, trishea. There will be two teams in higher stages, up to 5 teams

[fading meadow]

Okay, thanks 🙏🏼

[tiny saffron]

just experiment and see the formations tab on stages to get ideas, its better if you learn how to build teams yourself

[fading meadow]

Should I reset everyone except mishka in rickety cart before doing the trick you explained

Okie

[tiny saffron]

no need..

also stop upgrading laios

focus normal tavern

[fading meadow]

👍🏼

Someone said I should take Marcille on last day of event, true right?

[tiny saffron]

yes, but dont upgrade

[fading meadow]

Okay

[median basalt]

Okay thanks

[livid ruin]

Anyone having issues with arms mobilisation in golden frontier

When I try to invest some stuff it throws an error

[obtuse dove]

maybe give this https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/441507755245961216 a try

[clever sphinx]

How do I counter Brutus? Is there a hero who can drain his energy or something? His spinning attack kills everyone

[honest bear]

Nara can execute him through his barrier, if I remember correctly.

Generally, though, I try to just tank him with guys until his barrier drops.

Lots of healing and tanky heroes like Sonja usually do the trick.

[high kestrel]

Face with brutus too

[clever sphinx]

Which heroes heal other than Nevanthi? I’m using her in first team and cant move her.

[high kestrel]

Telene

[clever sphinx]

oh no. She’s also in first team

[honest bear]

Sonja and Rowan from Lightbearers

Where are you in campaign, and what ascension and level are your heroes at?

[clever sphinx]

I’m on 23-36. Using my guildmates heroes. He’s heroes are lvl 180 - 200 .

[honest bear]

Which heroes are you able to use? Can you send a screenshot?

[honest bear]

Those are some very nice heroes! The signature items haven't been developed yet.

You could try Mishka in front of Brutus, she tanks pretty good, even against Brutus.

You could still use Rowan and Sonja, but Sonja would have to go in the back line.

Hard to say anymore than that without seeing the enemy lineup.

[clever sphinx]

O: why backline with Sonja. I’ve been throwing her in the front oops

[honest bear]

She can go front line, but it helps her a lot to have higher ascension and at least SI10.

Ok, just checking, but have you checked the formations in the formations button in the bottom right of the screen? It's the fastest way to find what works.

[clever sphinx]

Yeah I’ve been trying them all out but they’re not working for me. Either team one passes but team two dies. Or they just don’t work at all

[honest bear]

Also, I notice the enemy levels are about 20 levels above yours. That's when it starts to get pretty challenging, so gaining levels is something that will surely help.

[honest bear]

Fair enough.

It's hard for me to help out because I can't see which heroes you have also.

[honest bear]

But against Brutus, I would put Mishka in front of Luceus, Rowan mid back.

[clever sphinx]

Okok I’ll try that. Thank you!

[honest bear]

First team looks like it could be taken out with high dps, Marcille for example, with some tanks to protect her.

Second team looks like it's more difficult - Brutus can totally be a pain.

[clever sphinx]

I’ll give it a try again. Thanks for your help!

[honest bear]

No worries, good luck 👍

[tiny saffron]

team 1 lyca mishka same lane with that mauler guy and mid rowan. Team 2 your duo's trishea mid or top, sonja, talene, neva, silas/salaki

[zealous orbit]

is companion mode a coop afk arena? like I can play with a specific friend while strategizing like building 2 completely different team so that we could instead share the roster?

[tiny saffron]

yes. That only works at early game, the higher stages you need heroes' divinity which you get from stars. You wont get any stars from your duo's heroes only up to ascended. That's why that could work early but you have to make your own roster. In late stages you will only use a few of your duos heroes because theyre too weak without divinity

And you cant use your duos heroes in other modes like forked fate and towers which are important

[split echo]

Which one should be the next SI20 and SI30?

[frank thistle]

aSolice

[split echo]

For SI20?

[frank thistle]

For Si30

Minimum Si20

But Si30 is awesome

Rowan si20 also very important

[split echo]

No no i mean shes already has SI20, i'll upgrade it SI30 but which other hero should i get SI20

[frank thistle]

Then 100% Rowan

[split echo]

Okie thx

[tiny saffron]

30 trish, 20 mishka/lyca

[split echo]

Thx

[autumn orchid]

true, I like to start in the backline

[obtuse dove]

[high kestrel]

After 5 Asended on wishlist lightbear who should i build?

Thane or esmeralda?

[frank thistle]

depends what you already have

[high kestrel]

Belinda, archer, rowan, sonja, rosaline

[frank thistle]

gwyn you mean?

[frank thistle]

pick Thane, will help you a lot with some bosses

[high kestrel]

For tower who better?

Bosses i always got top 10

[frank thistle]

Raine, Morow, Estrilda then

[mild beacon]

Hey, im thinking about what to do with my sg cards, i have m+ talene and im not sure what to do with them

I feel like building next cele/hypo will take to much time, so idk even who to build, or continue with talene

[honest field]

is it possible to reset Signiture Item and recover all emblems spent on it?

[honest bear]

Nah, I don't think so.

I think that's part of the reason why we have to be so careful about which SIs we level up.

[honest field]

noted

[fiery lintel]

For the wishlist its better to change at 10 copies or wait for more ?

[tiny saffron]

decide for yourself, only talene is worth celehypo imo, i personally used all my sgs on trish and gwyn. Just do what you want😗

[tiny saffron]

5 star everyone

[verbal scarab]

How cooked am i if this is my hero list and im at 23-12?

Saw the guy before that was at 23 aswell with only 2 a

[fiery lintel]

Ty

[tiny saffron]

its okay, youre behind martial rating

[tiny saffron]

duo probably carried him

[clever sphinx]

Omg how do I counter orthros

[compact sapphire]

Guys if I have ascended lyca and trishea rn who should I build next between tasi oku and nevanthi

[cobalt coral]

Next t1 gear?

[late phoenix]

Nevanthi 100%

[compact sapphire]

thx

[compact sapphire]

boots

[verbal scarab]

no mishka?

[compact sapphire]

cant seem to get any mishka copies

got her to l+ and have gotten 1 copy since while i got 12 nevanthi lol

[verbal scarab]

god damn felt that

[pearl light]

As soon as I get a 5* ascended can I remove off wishlist?

[tiny saffron]

yes

[high kestrel]

Hat

[cobalt coral]

Too late

I did boots

But im close to another stone

[high kestrel]

[chilly falcon]

continue albedo or star one of the new ones and which one first?

[fading meadow]

I’ve stargazed a copy of Mortas and twins, who should I stargaze next? Mortas/talene until I get enough copies? If so what’s priority atm

[tiny saffron]

marcille

[tiny saffron]

theres no priority after that

[silver saffron]

When this dimensional collab event ends, will a new collab start right after that one, or is it possible that it takes some weeks before we get a new one?

[tiny saffron]

no, few months or more

[livid dune]

is ezizh good how can i play him ?is he good on what gamemodes?

[edgy tusk]

What can I do if I used my Elite+ Mishima as food to make a legendary of something else. I accidentally just did this. Customer support in the game seems iffy hard to find the right spot to submit the issue

[tiny saffron]

no

[tiny saffron]

i dont think you can do anything about that

[stone hedge]

What's the current meta?

[full jay]

Yes, he is good in campaign, forked fate aswell as arena.

He is a energy generating engine and usally either used to cc enemies - because he taunts enemies towards him.

Can sometimes work on one copy, but usally a whale thing.

[full jay]

Wrong about that, because we have only a couple of heroes that help with energy regen - Ezizh is pretty impactful atm.

Even on one copy you can use him in chapter 42 just for the energy + the hypogean +30% defense buff that they provide, because Ezizh will also generate energy when he's dead. (but less)

And the taunt from him on the farthest enemy from him, is a nice cheese.

[tiny saffron]

youre wrong, yes

[full jay]

idk why you give people bad tips, but sure - you'll know better

[tiny saffron]

saying ezizh is good i think is what you call a bad tip

[full jay]

does it imply he is a priority? - no

but he is good, I said that he is a whale or one copy thing

and I'm using him as one copy sometimes in pvp and sometimes on ch42+ campaign because he has a good cheese, with his ability

[livid dune]

Im on chapter 24 cant even progress more , and ezizh is elite , i should have other priorities than him

[tiny saffron]

You are a whale, you always forget that. You have way more options in using other heroes than any other players. So stop with your 'everyone is good' mindset as its misleading

[full jay]

ah yes

my f2p acc, 22 days old

[tiny saffron]

youre careied by your number 1 whale, yes

thats not something to brag as anyone can achieve that

[full jay]

do it proof me wrong, its only a couple of days

pvp top 9 btw

not duo'd with the whale

[tiny saffron]

And were talking about your main, why are you posting that useless f2p acc thats carried? Either way, idc about you. Just stop misleading people with your dumb mindset

[full jay]

Someone been asking if a hero is good - and yes that hero is good for nieches like taunting an enemy that might just outburst your whole team otherwise

Aswell as generating energy on some key heroes whether it be your f2p daimon comp or it be a ainz from f2ps on lower servers, yes ezizh is still good - tell me why he wouldn't be

gave 0 reasons so far - just said "no, ezizh bad"

when I even add thats its a whale thing to build - I even gave context- and no I don't have ezizh build on my main

I use him as e+ and yes he is good and necessary on high deficits, but I bet you'd also say nara and brutus are trash while never using them

Your tips are the only misleading thing - but sure xd

[tiny saffron]

aint reading allat

your misleading thats it

[full jay]

good argument

[livid dune]

Guys its all good, just wanted some context ty iperx

[tiny saffron]

not gonna waste my time on some whale thats very f2p

[high kestrel]

I need toast where he go?

[full jay]

Toast quit after p2w release of golden frontier

[high kestrel]

He's one give me good advince

[high kestrel]

Iam F2P too

[full jay]

you dont have the first purchase thing on the left, that is not f2p

[high kestrel]

Ah

[high kestrel]

I just buy that one

[fringe nest]

who should i si30 next, thinking marcille but im not sure

[full jay]

doesnt look like it, but whatever feels good - if so acc looks great you can proceed with easily it anyways

[high kestrel]

Oke i will say iam low spander mybe

[full jay]

khazard would be a nice meme and make him finally useful since cc timings of other units would be increased

but probably marcielle > trishea > khazard as far as I see

[full jay]

should be no shame in it, im also a whale on s84 and f2p on s157

[fringe nest]

yeah i really want khazard to actually be useful but i think marcille is the better option, thank you

[full jay]

i mean i can show you something that you could try with like gorvo/tasi/pippa

is a thing out of classic and no one has tested it for companions yet

but i believe it to be viable even without saurus

is a pve only comp tho for tower/campaign/forked fate

its basically perma cc

[fringe nest]

lol that’s crazy

[high kestrel]

@full jay sl30 marcile good?

[fringe nest]

yeah i bet you could use a staller like brutus or maybe rowan instead

if it works that’s a pretty low investment team besides khazard

[full jay]

yea, shes a good dps- stacks up her pierce way faster and busts through tanks way easier

so its really good for dream scores, pvp and some tougher campaign stages on high deficit

[high kestrel]

Worth to +30 marcile after solise?

[full jay]

Yea I'd tidius could be a great addi n with his fear, but unsure - you'd just need a +1 filler

rowan would also be obv great but is usally needed for other stuff

[full jay]

tough to say, marci is great, but tirshea is also great - depends on your priorities

but I'd personally do marci > trishea after Solise

bc lots of people use a pippa eironn comp instead of trishea later for pve

like mishka, tasi, asolise, eironn, pippa in that order seems to be more consistent than trishea

and marci is just great and I dont see her being bad for a long time

if you can afford the +30, do it more worth than rowan or others

but trishea is also a big priority atm

[high kestrel]

Oh i just know that right now