nightmare-corridor

[subtle iris]

Yeah sp on ezizh

Ah, I didnt think hodgkin would need the furn for this

[lyric night]

need 203 hodge prob

yeah hodge investment is quite important for this

[subtle iris]

Alright thanks

[lyric night]

[surreal plinth]

Works with 009 and Silas over estrilda

[drifting kayak]

My clears here ! I got this on reddit too getting a lot of good feedback for ppl helped a lot

F2p ofc

[lyric night]

i think u can attempt at pulling rem out if u use mulan vei. no vei could try something like anasta? something like this one: #nightmare-corridor message

[drifting kayak]

Yet i cant replace palmer t1

[lyric night]

hmp. lets c....

[drifting kayak]

And anasta is on scarlet team

Maybe i replace her when my estrilda gets 3f

[lyric night]

oooh thats seems like a good idea.

what celetials do u have? theres a celestial buff so maybe running three celetials w. abel team can pull some hero out of abel r1

[drifting kayak]

I tried it it doesnt work …

[lyric night]

oooh maybe could work~

[spiral rose]

this worked for me

[lyric night]

smart joux

[drifting kayak]

Lvl 18 seal

[lyric night]

gonna be slow if no 18 seal but prob worth a try

[spiral rose]

it's already slow but should be doable with 15

[drifting kayak]

Mine 15

[lyric night]

prob can make it work

[drifting kayak]

Prob but i aint spending anymore gems 😂

[lyric night]

[drifting kayak]

Yea i gotta stop spending gems

It doesnt worth it

[lyric night]

yeah u dont get enough rewards out of it. but gotta admit. kinda fun thou. like figuring out puzzle

waste of dias nevertheless

[drifting kayak]

I can agree that i like trying teams

But gems are too much

It doesnt worth it

[celest karma]

any replacement for t2 asafiya?

[unkempt nebula]

There's no safiya there at all?

[celest karma]

is the third one anasta? my bad, i didn’t know of the skin and it looked like asafiya

[lyric night]

yeah its anasta

[barren saddle]

Can anyone help me with a 4 man team for Mirror demon

[shy bison]

you got a build Liberta ?

[barren saddle]

I merc him

[shy bison]

you got all heros for the team above

send box pls

[barren saddle]

Yep thnx

@shy bison

[shy bison]

Try this

5 empty

[silent aurora]

Here is what i used to get the 4 kills in 240s quest done

i was beginning to think i was never gonna get it

[barren saddle]

@shy bison if u got any tips for my Duskwailer team it would be helpfull cant still kill with my curent formation

[spiral rose]

Tiny Belinda won't kill sorry

[barren saddle]

Im aware i merc Belinda, seeing my luck with timegazers is 💩

[shy bison]

could be ur belinda

[strong field]

Good day everyone. Some ideas how can i improve my round 6? Merc already used and i dont have AWLyca.

[silent aurora]

have you tried alyca instead of aathal?

[strong field]

I need merc Talene to keep palmerless kill r5. And Since i dont have build Veithael i cant replicate others Aathalia kills.

[silent aurora]

wait for other opinions

[steady fjord]

Is Seal your only lvl12 beast?
Moth or Lion should be better

[strong field]

Yeah only seal lvl 12.

[steady fjord]

Until you have Lion 18, Seal is probably your best beast for Hound R3
And it doesn't help R6

[strong field]

You probably right, i am kinda copying beast from other people formations and since my r3 super budget kill with remilia and greenball my seal is free

[steady fjord]

Grassy might even be better for R6, personally I use Moth as a budget slot but I'm 12 reso

[strong field]

Not sure if it helped or rng factor but i get t3 gear to Naroko and swap her positions with Ivan(she still died at the end). Thx for some ideas to @ebon cargo his 5 kills helped alot.

[strong field]

Anyway thx for help, seal dealt 500kk dmg so probably not the best to use.

[steady fjord]

Other than budget R3 Seal isn't really used in NC

[strong field]

He did 1b dmg first time and since he is lvl 12 bringing more stats to my teams i thought he would help me. If i had more tries would tried mole or even greenball as per your suggestion.

[pale cliff]

when will region 8 arrive

[spiral rose]

when lilith remembers they need to put it in

[river palm]

It'll probably be at least half a year

[silent aurora]

if the game's still running that is

[ebon cargo]

yw

oh wait

i recognize that in game name

i was copying your clears for campaign lmao

[strong field]

Only 3 stages left and 41ch done, after that bye bye campaigh.

[remote badger]

nc

[lyric night]

U gotta reference the available ones and make ur own first. Then ask maybe how to improve/edit them.

[lyric night]

heres some others work i found online

[orchid pivot]

[river palm]

[steady fjord]

[steady fjord]

I find Estri is better R2 if you don't have the full invest to copy the whale r3 (Emi easier to use there)

[sleek panther]

any alternative to aathlia for r6

[lyric night]

R6 doesn’t have much alts…unfortunately

[sleek panther]

[lyric night]

Try seal?

[shy bison]

you need like 20b Damage you know ?

so it wasnt even close

[brave dagger]

thanks, that's a big help

[lyric night]

[sleek panther]

Need more AAthalia

I probably need a abaden r3 and use rem for r6

[lyric night]

Yeah seems like it

Does rem r6 kill?

[sleek panther]

Yes you can 4 hero kill r6

Oh need liberta too. So give up r4 for r6

[shy bison]

i used Alyca for that

[modest nymph]

i just did rem instead of aathalia and it kills

[sleek panther]

Mine is not ascended yet

[modest nymph]

then you’re probably just not gonna get a kill there if you can’t find a better aathalia

[sleek panther]

I got 6 kill in the first round with rem r6 I think. But then that stopped working.

[sleek panther]

I mean Alyca not Rem

Will have to try in the next round

[ebon cargo]

lyca

[sharp condor]

Should I sg a lucilla for the sake of Puppet

[spiral rose]

no it's not needed

[violet hornet]

My Lucilla elite work

[spiral rose]

mishka there is basically just as good in my experience

compared to E

[ebon cargo]

what parts of mishka are important there? i don't have her si30

just 20960

[sharp condor]

Idk how to beat that boss without ALyca and ASaf

[violet hornet]

Is she? I should try

[sharp condor]

Since I have to merc Talene

And I will probably do ALyca for R6 next round

[spiral rose]

If you have awthalia and palmer free you can do it

[sharp condor]

I don't have AAthalia

[spiral rose]

oh if you will have alyca then that's good too

r6 without palmer is a struggle, I have to use vei silas tamrus and ivan with whyca

[sharp condor]

I usually clear Puppet with ALyca

[spiral rose]

no bert?

[ebon cargo]

does anyone have some sample budget puppet comps? I might even be able to do a 6 kill

[sharp condor]

I do

309e60 but idk sometimes it just doesnt work maybe due to 9 spooder

[spiral rose]

then you shouldn't need, r6 is too hard without whyca lol

[ebon cargo]

6 is hard even with a 30960 lyca im out here using ivan AND palmer in that round

[spiral rose]

do you have naroko

[ebon cargo]

lyca ivan palmer naroko joan is like a 1:25 kill for me

[sharp condor]

M20 yes

[spiral rose]

might help puppet

I use it w/ scarlet, cause I have mae to help make puppet more consistent, but naroko good for puppet too

[ebon cargo]

naroko is such a cool and good hero

[sharp condor]

I'm building Naroko soon

After I finish ALyca

[ebon cargo]

i'm building peggy soon

[sharp condor]

Damn shes the best hero in the game

[violet hornet]

Why Peggy

[ebon cargo]

not even a joke i'm actually building her for rift

[shy bison]

where is she used in again

[violet hornet]

Rift?

[shy bison]

which meta team am i overlooking here

[ebon cargo]

spams summons for ring teams

[silent aurora]

i wonder what heroes would be good against the upcoming boss

[sharp condor]

Zikis

[violet hornet]

[ebon cargo]

i hope oden is one of them

[sharp condor]

For the memes

[shy bison]

Pretty cheap to build her ngl

[sharp condor]

Wtf is Zikis' role actually barring all the other heroes? DPS?

Bro is literally one of the strongest in lore and yet is just as powerful as a literal Sphinx ingame

[violet hornet]

Zikis next hypo awakened please

[spiral rose]

i'd simp

[silent aurora]

nothing zikis is a dead hero

[steady fjord]

I got Zikis from a beckon

[river palm]

[crimson hearth]

whats this card from?

[shy bison]

A discord bot called AFK Kit

[dapper shoal]

AFKit*

[shy bison]

Sry mr Dev

[remote badger]

tbh thats kinda clown

[unkempt nebula]

extremely, I doubt she's even good in rift, a hero that just triggers the badge is not a good hero

[candid quail]

congrats on promotion salsa 👏

[unkempt nebula]

I had to be halloween colored for today

[silent aurora]

afk kit never worked for me

[balmy ice]

Try harder

[modest nymph]

my time is over 7mins for 6 kills now

oke fixed now it’s just really high 6mins

[ebon cargo]

anyone got an abel + no-palmer r1?

I think i could maybe do a 5 kill this week but the attempt cost is just not practical

fyi not the most consistent thing ever but here's an ultra budget r2, raine works here as well

[strong field]

R5 merc Talene for palmerless r5. r6 should work with ALyca if you dont have Aathalia. Not sure about Hodgkin importance in r1 (was copied from another player clear with celestial buff).

[silent aurora]

cant wait to see if the next boss will be as bs as mirror demon

[high hill]

dw it will be.

[ebon cargo]

Okay so you copied my clear but now i am asking you for advice on the clear you copied - how the fuck does that r1 work? I'm not even close without the buff this week

Probably built daemia difference

[strong field]

It kinda work not really well as you can see my time

[ebon cargo]

Lmao fair enough

[ebon cargo]

i am honestly glad to see duskwailer go...

[strong field]

Since i have few tries left i can try different heroes

[ebon cargo]

I think 5 kill just isn't happening for me this week tbh

[strong field]

Do you have jerome?

[ebon cargo]

Jerome is M+30

I bet you are getting a lot more dmg from his engravings because his ult is based on his tenacity

[surreal plinth]

Anyone found sth useful for the r2 buff?

[ebon cargo]

depends whether you mean just barely clear or good time

[violet hornet]

Yikes

[spiral rose]

hey a slow kill is still a kill

NC is a lesson in humility

[violet hornet]

Indeed, but I didn't think I would get it

This comps is so RNG also

[oblique spoke]

Merc Liberta

[muted jacinth]

can anyone help me build some teams, i want to be able to kill at least two bosses but i really don’t know which heroes go well together and what bosses they are best at

[unkempt nebula]

look through leaderboards and this channel

[crystal plaza]

How does this fail?

[lyric night]

investment + position i think

[ebon cargo]

@crystal plaza wrong pet

use seal (if lv 15+) or green ball

[crystal plaza]

Def not 15. Don't even have reso9. Green ball actually got me less damage

[ebon cargo]

do you have gear for rem

[crystal plaza]

Only t2 gear

[ebon cargo]

yea that's gonna do it

[crystal plaza]

I was able to beat it with that formation last rotation though

[ebon cargo]

some rng can be involved, did you watch replay? are you dying?

[crystal plaza]

No one even dies

[ebon cargo]

do the shields go to 0

[crystal plaza]

These?

[ebon cargo]

yea

i dunno then it might just be lack of dmg from rem gear

[noble wadi]

Swap rem and emi position and silas with aezizh

[drifting kayak]

You guys think a bigger Naroko or Crassio can help clear ?

[ebon cargo]

i could be wrong on this but tamrus si30 might help

[drifting kayak]

You are not wrong but idk if i wanna spent chests on Tamrus now

[unkempt nebula]

he's only giving 4% buff without it so

[river palm]

si20 tamrus is sad

[unkempt nebula]

basically does nothing in nc without 309

[drifting kayak]

Pffffff i gotta si30 him

Damn

[surreal plinth]

Salsa orange

[unkempt nebula]

🎃

[river palm]

spammer

[digital basalt]

[river palm]

damn you have twice as many messages as me. u are truly one of the best spammers of the generation

[digital basalt]

[warm umbra]

need non awakened comps

[umbral flame]

Those don't exist

[warm umbra]

i believe you

[steady fjord]

Arden's return

[formal totem]

Wutus

[ebon cargo]

pháo cuông nô

[steady fjord]

AwBrutus stunning cannon

[ebon cargo]

L abrutus work?

[spiral rose]

Lol of course not

Silver star or bust

[formal totem]

F2P kill

[ebon cargo]

doesn't work for me can you post a giga kraken kill instead

[formal totem]

That comp seems familiar

[spiral rose]

Can you post a kill from a player in 2020 who time traveled here

[ebon cargo]

Can you post a kill from someone who just unlocked nc

[spiral rose]

This boss looks more reasonable than I thought tho

Time to +30 eorin fuck naroko

[ebon cargo]

eorin not dead

[silent aurora]

damm

looks like it'll be a tough boss

[noble wadi]

BRUTUS META NO WAY

[steady fjord]

Well it was slower than AwSaf Crassio

[noble wadi]

so what

at least there is a spot to use him

[ebon cargo]

crassio lol

dead hero

[silent aurora]

Does this mean the next cycle has started?

[river palm]

Don't fuck naroko

That's a crime

[spiral rose]

well clearly eorin is doing it not me

arrest him

[river palm]

I knew that motherfucker was up to something

[faint wyvern]

Imagine fücking a worm

[river palm]

I really should just bite the bullet and build Assio

[candid quail]

wait what

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/441477431501783062/1146366915825123328/SWQ_HD-Move.gif

[silent aurora]

so nc bosses are gonna repeat?

[river palm]

no

[ebon cargo]

was arden ever in nc

[river palm]

no. evil arden did not exist until justnow

[ebon cargo]

evil arden is the boss of ch3 fyi

[river palm]

also lilith recycling assets lmao. design team ran out of time

[ebon cargo]

didn't he used to be in twisted realm too

[river palm]

oh yeah. that was a long time ago

[ebon cargo]

so was evil nemora r1 in nc always?

or who was before her?

she was r1 when I unlocked NC so i thought there must have been one before since I unlocked it late

[river palm]

initially nc had the cr bosses as the first 6

i wanna say it was shem brute dune kane nem idre as the order

i don't remember exactly

[silent aurora]

so its the second cycle

[river palm]

they made one new boss a month

[ebon cargo]

oh i completely forgot about Idre NC somehow

i remember i had to merc a 30960 Eorin to beat him lol

[spiral rose]

Arden was a crazy tr boss as he had an ability that would randomly zap someone with lightning and steal all their buffs... So you have to pray to the rng god he doesn't 1 shot your saurus halfway in

Still better than idre

[ebon cargo]

could ivan fix that?

[spiral rose]

Ivan didn't exist

[ebon cargo]

yeah but he does now

[spiral rose]

But no, it did so much DMG when the boss had a lot of stacks

[ebon cargo]

i mean cause the lightning thing is obviously gonna exist again right

[spiral rose]

Who knows

[icy tinsel]

They'll just release a pet that prevents zappies

[spiral rose]

Grounding rod

[ebon cargo]

doesn't spooder create a dummy lol

or maybe we will just have to use abaden or something to eat the deaths

[surreal plinth]

@ zappy what do you think about that? Pet to disable you

[river palm]

why don't u ever ping people for real

@flint jungle get pinged

[flint jungle]

[steady fjord]

NC bosses don't have enrage stacks, so the dmg wouldn't ramp up

[autumn dome]

Eorin havers win again

[surreal plinth]

Because I dont want to actually ping our only active mod for a meme :wtfisthis:

[river palm]

the crass round is better

[autumn dome]

I didn’t even read the times I just like to hype Eorin.

and taking daemia away from mask curator sucks

The Scarlet orthros Lucilla comp has a bad time for me

[spiral rose]

mask gone next tho

[ebon cargo]

i wonder how cancer arden boss will be

will they give him 20b hp "just because"

[autumn dome]

I hope raku is good against him for old time’s sake

[spiral rose]

And saurus

For older time sake

[golden river]

Would I be crazy to swap crassio to trishea

[ebon cargo]

Do you really not have any worse hero to swap

[surreal plinth]

How big is your assio?

[golden river]

Just 9/9

And nah I don’t really I’m a newer account so not many older heroes

[surreal plinth]

I guess you could? Ask in checkup tho I think

[river palm]

i kind of doubt you'll ever get a better swap

you're gonna hcp every new somewhat playable 4f hero from now until the end of time

so you'll never have an opportunity to use the swap scroll

[autumn dome]

swap crassio to Trish
hcp crassio

[river palm]

oh yeah

its big brain time

[golden river]

Yeah that was my thought process, trishea has much more use than crassio in all modes. Unless I’m holding this swap scroll for a year or so for a new cycle of heroes, I’m prolly never gonna use it

[high hill]

Just never use it then. Keep it in your bag as a symbol of your status.

[thick nova]

I'm this close to swapping my 309 Daimon with trishea

But daimon still has some uses, so I think I'll do that when Trish is ascended, so I can have at least a 203 daimon

[autumn dome]

Yeah daimon is in cr at least once

and nc when it’s Gb week he’s high on the list of subs or on the leaderboard comp

[thick nova]

Yeah, I don't want to lose daimon, I just want to recycle that +30, since he's only used for his 9f

[river palm]

[autumn dome]

He’s in it this week

Idk about the others

[river palm]

ik. that's why your phrasing is so funny to me

[autumn dome]

well that’s the extent of my knowledge lol. I have no idea if he’s in other weeks or not

[spiral rose]

i think one other

[thick nova]

He's in the no buffs week too, since his 9f applies to enemy and not allies

[spiral rose]

also nice in gb round ncs

[cursive epoch]

@spiral rose

[spiral rose]

Doesn't matter, you have the right wokes

I have to Merc whyca so palmer is glued to r5 and both r1 and r5 need ivan

[cursive epoch]

yea, thats true

aren't we also getting a new boss next week already

[river palm]

I'll finally get m Twins next week

Half year long quest

[steady fjord]

I use Palmer R5 anyway, because it saves so much time
(It's like 32s vs 70s)

[cursive epoch]

i need 2 more cycles for M twins

[river palm]

I can spike 33s down from my usual 44s with just tamrus rosa vs martyr every like 30 attempts or so I just throw diamonds down the drain until it all lines up

[cursive epoch]

i should try to improve my time but i'm lazy and i need to wait until i pop trial anyway

have no clue where people run shem tho

[steady fjord]

I just slapped her into R2 so I could move Naro to R6

[river palm]

Do they even run Shem at all

[steady fjord]

Whale meta doesn't

[cursive epoch]

probably not

so i'm not touching NC this week anymore then

[steady fjord]

Doesn't mean she isn't usable in NC, you're not copying whale comps to begin with

[digital basalt]

no, she'll be for the next new boss

[cursive epoch]

ok, i wasted my 3 last tries getting rng fucked, bye NC

[spiral rose]

They should just delete NC

I'd rather not get the rewards

[river palm]

Valid take

You're falling further behind people who score better than you the longer nc exists

[steady fjord]

TS is a bigger issue than NC

[spiral rose]

well at least leaderboard is shit so it's not a huge margin

[digital basalt]

nc rewards fixed the poe/furn discrepancy. I can now safely 203e30 new units fairly easy. but it does suck that its another punishing mode for new accounts/f2p/low spenders

[remote badger]

nc just royally sucks for f2p

[digital basalt]

cry, thats the guide

[river palm]

rip

I'm glad my current acc got in when nc was just starting up bc for new players it's just completely fucking impossible now

[steady fjord]

Cannon looks less restrictive than puppet/martyr/mirror at least

[digital basalt]

nc is shit for new players

[spiral rose]

new player and NC don't go together, try again later. if you don't like that advice, get a time machine and start the game 2 years ago

[digital basalt]

^^

[steady fjord]

As a new player just focus on killing during buff week and quests

[digital basalt]

I mean, you didn't ask for advice. just made a snappy comment

[spiral rose]

if you don't like it you are welcome to leave the discord. try the afk arena reddit, I hear they're very skilled players there

[remote badger]

do not recommend

[digital basalt]

doesn't matter to me. new players are fucked when it comes to nc. no point in sugar coating it

[autumn dome]

I mean just focus on getting as many of the quests done as possible and over time you’ll be able to clear all of them eventually.

and maybe they’ll split off r8 at some point

but r7 is still very easy compared to others

[digital basalt]

or just get used to the fact that every new hero will be nc meta based on how fast the bosses rotate

[autumn dome]

that’s not so bad since they can just focus on the new heroes and not even bother with older ones

and the next power creep might make the quests easier to clear

[digital basalt]

true, but its also a never-ending grind since mediocre new heros only last one rotation

[lyric night]

nc ranking stuff isnt exactly f2p or new player friendly. the main goal for all normal players should be to just get the quest done to obtain dream store tokens. once u have a stronger hero pool, one can consider trying for ranks

[lyric night]

[honest timber]

farara kraken

[river palm]

True

[lyric night]

i just did my 1st hit using last weeks team lol. cause i forget sometimes

[warped pagoda]

Spent more dias than I should have to chase my first sub-6min clear. Just in time for bosses to rotate again

[lyric night]

[river palm]

That's how it goes every month

Finally find a good setup only for the bosses to immediately rotate

[ebon cargo]

If that's your team how are you beating r1, 2, or 3....

[unkempt nebula]

you dont

[regal thunder]

With the arm and the 2 leg of pinocchio

[somber ingot]

can I afford to kill 4 boss with my heroes? suggest lineup please.

[candid quail]

I don't think so, u could probably manage 3 easy enough tho

[steady fjord]

Maaaybe 4 with a Lib merc but probably 3

[candid quail]

not 1lene merc?

[steady fjord]

Prob closer to a puppet comp than a martyr comp when they don't have Tal or even L AwSol

[surreal plinth]

3 max if even. Probably even fewer come tuesday

[candid quail]

oh no asol, yeah fair

[steady fjord]

R1-3 should be easy though

[somber ingot]

who should I merc to kill 3?

[spiral rose]

depends on which you want to kill and which you are already killing

[somber ingot]

thank you

[lyric night]

CN NC guide: https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/SaVA4H5yWGMf9rA8f7l9ug

Recommended merc prio

R1: bottom 4 hero are support hero subs

R2: get 3 hypo buff

R3: awezizh sp

R4: olgath and antandra are the lowest hp heroes to recruits liberta’s orb

R5 and R6: awathalia needs highest attk rating to receive Ivan buff.

[silent aurora]

seems to becoming more p2w

[modest nymph]

this my version

23%

[silent aurora]

would naroko work at elite

[modest nymph]

maybe barely

[thick nova]

I think she needs at least +30 for the buff

[modest nymph]

oh yeah her +10 +20 effects scale with her atk too

she also just personally contributes noticeable damage

[silent aurora]

cool

[modest nymph]

my frikin text box is running away

[lyric night]

happens to me too lol. i thoughts its just me

[modest nymph]

it was still functional too lul

[lyric night]

yeah u can still type

and it fixes itself in a few

[spiral rose]

Mobile discord is always buggy af

[modest nymph]

anywhos, my bert is now good enough to kill clown so i can move on to spamming other mercs

[lyric night]

[spiral rose]

Puppet is still kinda rng for me but killable

Had to juggle a bit to take mortas away for mask

[modest nymph]

yeah mirrors really forced a lot of unstable juggling if you were missing just one or two heroes

[spiral rose]

i gave up in mirror anyway, i can't kill it without ivan or palmer and I need both in other roudns 😠

[modest nymph]

where are they?

[spiral rose]

ivan r1, palmer r5 - I have to merc whyca so I use E talene

can't find an ivan-less r1 that doesn't use a big dae or haelus

[modest nymph]

o hmm it’s just exactly the wrong set of heroes that are needed

[spiral rose]

yeah I just need like 1 more hero but I'm nto close lol

oh well, hopefully next week the new boss will be easier

[modest nymph]

maybe Simona will be really big and relieve pressure too

[spiral rose]

not looking like an NC hero at all

all about stealing enemy energy

[modest nymph]

oh yeah just looked back at her skills

[spiral rose]

r1 leaving will free up a few supports, and the next boss looks doable so I'm optimistic

[modest nymph]

o does test have him up now 👀

[spiral rose]

yea

i saw some cheaper kills

cheaper than mirror at least

[modest nymph]

like what? hoping shem is good in it

[spiral rose]

saw some eorin, some saff crappio

[modest nymph]

dang well i kinda have crassio

[ebon cargo]

i am considering making 20330 Eorin for the new boss

[balmy ice]

Low ROI, I would advise to skip

Also not sure he would work at that invest

But on the other hand, 203e30 is not huge investment so if you got spare resources lying around, I guess why not

[modest nymph]

eorin gud tho

[spiral rose]

prob will need +30 and maybe 9f, but we'll see

you can chill and I'll let you know if my smol 203e30 can kill

almost have 9f but not gonna be +30 anytime soon sadly

[ebon cargo]

i don't know where eorin is used other than nc

but also like this boss is gonna be here for 6 months at least

so if eorin is good here 20330 is a pretty small invest

i wish he was good in cr or ts

[lyric night]

used in ts

[ebon cargo]

i wish the game had more relevant modes other than cr nc and ts

[spiral rose]

eorin is in one CR round, and is a budget burst option for TS. But the cr round is a whale comp lol

[ebon cargo]

i have seen eorin proposed as an option to go bowling

[spiral rose]

be greatful it has so much, for like 3-4 yrs it was just campaign

[ebon cargo]

is that legit or is it stupid

[spiral rose]

it's fine

[lyric night]

works

[spiral rose]

you can build 2 burst comps with that

if you have awthalia ofc

[ebon cargo]

eeeeef

[spiral rose]

I just don't promote investing in heros that are budget options and/or likely to be power crept any day

[lyric night]

thats what ive been doing

[spiral rose]

esp for new player who have a million +30 and 9f to do

[ebon cargo]

i already have him 203 so it would just be the e30

[lyric night]

he realistically wants 30960, works 20330 kinda thing

[delicate forge]

Guys any suggestions how can I improve my 4th round

[spiral rose]

bert e60 and naroko ascended ofc

[lyric night]

bert is e60

[spiral rose]

oh the star looked orange for some reason

[lyric night]

contrast i think i had to zoom in too

naro def a reason, and alyca too. realistically u want bert orb to naro here too but i dont think u can

alyca too smol

[ebon cargo]

how important is saurus here

[lyric night]

prio 4

1 lib 2 naro 3 alyca 4 saurus

[ebon cargo]

can he be replaced by anything? i don't know what he does

[spiral rose]

saurus gives lots of healing and reduces enemy defense or something

[ebon cargo]

i am gonna 30960 bert soon

[spiral rose]

there's lots of comps to kill puppet, it's pretty flexible

[ebon cargo]

but all of them using bert right

[thick nova]

Saurus heals and buffs atk and def scaling off his own stats

[spiral rose]

mortas, silas, lucilla, etc can go there. just be slower

[lyric night]

rem, antandra etc i can think of

[rare panther]

naroko worked at 200

[spiral rose]

yeah everything uses bert, or rem but rem needed elsewhere

[lyric night]

^^^

[ebon cargo]

I can't kill hound without rem

[spiral rose]

ywah that's what I said

[ebon cargo]

indeed

i got 7500 shards and 5500 cores saved up... need more copies of bert

[delicate forge]

I'm using mortas and company in 2nd round with lucila I did a test to switch em

[rare panther]

doubt u need mortas there

if u have mae

[delicate forge]

I'll give it a try to place mortas in round 4

[rare panther]

look at leaderboard

[spiral rose]

Mae didn't do much for me r2 , even with the hypo buff was barely better than an E cruke

[delicate forge]

I think it's better now

[rare panther]

👍

[delicate forge]

Thank you

[rare panther]

no problem

[sharp condor]

Can you kill Light Mirror with E+ Talene

Used to be able to do that now can't seem to do it

[spiral rose]

you mean martyr? yes

either needs palmer, or a maxed asolise with a maxed tamrus (at least that I've seen).

[sharp condor]

Yeah Light Martyr got that mixed up

I'll test so I can merc AAthalia for R6 and get a full 6 kill

[spiral rose]

i kill with: lorsan palmer (L) Asolise rosa (E) Talene, rosa follows talene. pet fox

[sharp condor]

I want to use Palmer for R6 so I'll try with Tamrus

Got him at 309e30

[spiral rose]

doesn't work for me, but that's just with L asolise. if you have a good one, I've seen kills with it

also give your tamrus e36 (haste is) for cr

[sharp condor]

309e60 Swolise, Rosa still follows Talene?

[spiral rose]

yeah still talene, she does all the dmg

[sharp condor]

Okay thank you hope I can make it work for a first 6 kill

[spiral rose]

good luck friendo, tough game

[sharp condor]

Yeah especially if you're not a heavy spender

[sharp condor]

Damn just can't seem to get it to work

[spiral rose]

This gamemode is pure pain for new accounts

[formal totem]

[steady fjord]

I got a 3m50 5 kill and it reminded me of pre-Puppet 6 kills

Or maybe it was pre Hound

[ashen parrot]

Nc test

[silent aurora]

which team is she in

[violet hornet]

Abel out of NC

[steady fjord]

AwBel's been out of meta teams ever since Mirror released

Doesn't mean people stopped using her for Dusk

[desert belfry]

Who can help me with some NC quests

[analog steppe]

Hey I’m new to trying nc I think I can get the 6 kills with my roadster but I’m not sure could someone give be a hand ?

[lyric night]

give it a try and post stuff here. ppl will chime in

[analog steppe]

This is the best I did with daemia loaned

[analog steppe]

I’m look for help to kill more before the end if anyone has any advice

[abstract scroll]

3 hypo in r2, move raine to r1 swap with haelus

[noble wadi]

bruh abel back mid

[analog steppe]

I have no idea what r2 and r1 mean

[analog steppe]

??

[noble wadi]

[analog steppe]

I have no idea what you mean

[unkempt nebula]

[rich sphinx]

Round 2, Round 1

[analog steppe]

I have to agree 😶

I don’t get the 3 hypo in r2 , like any 3 ?

[spiral rose]

Click the buff and read

[noble wadi]

and read r1 boss skills

[analog steppe]

Thank à lot I actually got 4 kill for the first time !!

[analog steppe]

Yeah ok I get it
kinda tried to understand the whole mode in the last 24h 🫠

[noble wadi]

looking at this you didnt get it

[analog steppe]

I actually saw you message after trying

But I did understood

I have no idea if I actually have any chance at taking r4 /r6
Like do my team need investment/ little changes or is it totally wrong

[lyric night]

theres a handful of posted team in this channel. i think theyll work for u

prob try em

[analog steppe]

I did try looking through it but most of them use at least 2 big units that I don’t have daemia/veithael for exemple

[lyric night]

those r replaceable units. u gotta look at whats doing the dmg

for example r4 ud use something around bert maybe

r5 merc a talene

[analog steppe]

I sadly also do not have naroko and Crassio and don’t really know what to sub for them

[lyric night]

most of the time u gotta just use the main unit and try subbing the supports with what u have

[analog steppe]

Ok il’l look on that

[lyric night]

merc a talene use lib r4 ud get at least one more kill

[analog steppe]

I’m already using a merc for daemia do I but grez back instead ?

[harsh cove]

Any 4 hero teams for mirror demon that dont require a beefy rem

Shes 20/4/60 atm

[analog steppe]

I’m actually weirdly getting better result with Rosa mid back line than abel wtf

[steady fjord]

For r1? Prob means your AwBel doesn't have enough TY to get the buff

[spiral rose]

e60 bel should

it's rng tho

[steady fjord]

Oh it is e60, prob the low invest Jero rng then

[analog steppe]

10 try, 5 each, I get the kill every single time with abel not in the middle back and 0 time with her at the right place

This is so weird

I even switched Rosa for Rowan for other reasons and it behave the same

[surreal plinth]

[tepid shadow]

damn, 5 minutes in top 10% is that r8

[surreal plinth]

R8 doesn't exist yet

R7

[lyric night]

im at 3m29s and.....16% an hour ago

[slow dust]

Show me teams

[slow dust]

@formal totem

[tepid shadow]

sorry i meant r10

[dapper hemlock]

3m30

[lyric night]

[surreal plinth]

You could save more time if you move luci to r2 but I couldn't find a fast kill for r4 without her (and without spooder 12)

[tepid shadow]

16% sounds like r4

[lyric night]

it is

[tepid shadow]

i wouldn't even be t200 in r4

shit region

[lyric night]

i know

[warm umbra]

whats hours of adjucation

[tepid shadow]

probably last week's buff

[true nimbus]

What is a comp to kill the last boss with 4 heroes? It is the only mission left

[abstract scroll]

Mind showing?

[lyric night]

Sure

R1 can go down to 25s with raine and tam gives similar time in r5. Didn’t try cause didn’t wanna waste diamonds for retry

Olgath merc.

[abstract scroll]

Thanks

[sharp condor]

When do Thrilling Voyages appear again?

Oh every 56 days

[balmy ice]

Every 56 days

[silent aurora]

i hope the new boss wont be to diffcult

[spiral rose]

I think they alternate between a pet one and a non-pet one every month

[surreal plinth]

Should be one this Tuesday no?

[elfin prawn]

Lolwtf

[steady fjord]

Hit NC early to ss high ranks because no one attacks new bosses at the start

[balmy ice]

Wtf, stop stealing my tactics

Rank 1 CR, here I come

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/974081672972763186/1114915684955209788/trezbedparty.gif

[thick nova]

I can't control myself. Finding comps for new bosses is the most fun

[noble wadi]

stop the count 🚨

[summer carbon]

[thick nova]

That's a fast hit if I've seen one

[noble wadi]

seal kinda good on him

[steady fjord]

[noble wadi]

[thick nova]

[noble wadi]

[steady fjord]

[candid quail]

whales

[noble wadi]

[candid quail]

nice Ira on puppet

[noble wadi]

op

discord dying again

pog

[candid quail]

sir what's an asaf sub 👀

[noble wadi]

this works but need seal

[candid quail]

tyvm

don't have blade ridge for scarlet round 1, anything I can sub there? 😭

damn nice ashem

oh it didn't work on mirror

[noble wadi]

its trial

[candid quail]

I figured yeah

[noble wadi]

wtf robin actually doing dmg

[candid quail]

u have the common sense to not bring ashem to 4 stars lmao

[steady fjord]

[candid quail]

we're balling

[noble wadi]

i have abel free and no fking idea where to put her

[candid quail]

I don't have vei or atha so I'm just chucking her in mirrors 😭

[noble wadi]

does this work tho

[candid quail]

behold, Raku charm

[candid quail]

I see it

[noble wadi]

no its here

[steady fjord]

Wait no it did send but it's also lagging out

[noble wadi]

yeah sometimes there is like 30s delay

[steady fjord]

I'm so confused
(I was getting double msg sends in other servers)

[candid quail]

well this is promising

can confirm this doesn't work

[steady fjord]

I killed Mirror with AwBel the first week of its release but I used Palmer there

[noble wadi]

palmer is fixed in puppet

[candid quail]

my liberta too weak

[steady fjord]

Palmer stuck to Martyr

[noble wadi]

i hate mirror

[noble wadi]

[steady fjord]

I'll do my actual hits later after I find some Cannon comps, just hit once to get quests done

[formal totem]

why do you burn your tries on day 1

[noble wadi]

why not

[formal totem]

[candid quail]

pizza used ira but I don't have her

need to kill this shit

[noble wadi]

[formal totem]

whale

[candid quail]

lyca and tamrus both fail

[formal totem]

count how many wilders

[candid quail]

oh berta doesn't count as one oops

[formal totem]

[noble wadi]

ira dying vs ira surviving

[formal totem]

how do you get palmer free

[noble wadi]

i freed him the moment puppet happened

[formal totem]

[candid quail]

got it ty

[noble wadi]

robin > abel

[formal totem]

use saurus

[candid quail]

e+ not on RC

[formal totem]

then put him on RC :Wtfisthis:

[noble wadi]

oh crappio even better

[formal totem]

ofc phys dmg is better

[noble wadi]

i have an idea

[candid quail]

82% voted this guy

[noble wadi]

they smart

[candid quail]

18% voted nihi 😭

[noble wadi]

it was a bad idea

[candid quail]

crema beat this last round

with this

[noble wadi]

you know it doesnt show their current teams right?

[candid quail]

that was the teams they used last round I thought 👀

[noble wadi]

they can fake and switch last min

[candid quail]

oh, other whale has 3 silver stars nvm

[candid quail]

yes I know, I was looking at the investments

yeah other whale has this ez

[noble wadi]

and you looked at this

[candid quail]

and thought nothing of it, it's just funny XD

all have basically no investments in that ss

[violet hornet]

[ebon cargo]

that works with green ball

[modest nymph]

damn i’m not using 3 of my wokes now

[jade linden]

cannon really just using the same team as duskwailer huh

[fleet plume]

where pizza clears

[remote badger]

saf merc

[violet hornet]

1m30.05

[jade linden]

wait you can go past 1:30 without owl?

[steady fjord]

Yeah you can go into decimals past 1m30 because of weird rounding

[thick nova]

[noble wadi]

[drifting kayak]

Abel ..

[noble wadi]

dafuq

[noble wadi]

10b kill, meanwhile

[drifting kayak]

So how is this even works

[thick nova]

You need good frequent cc and lots of burst when the cannon overheats and unblocks ults

[fleet plume]

thank you

[drifting kayak]

Can i kill Mirror without Palmer ?

[thorny sorrel]

Did light martyr change? I'm pretty sure this worked last round with smaller mortas and smaller bert

[noble wadi]

dont put talene front

and read boss skills

[formal totem]

Talene front is fine just not pos 1

[thorny sorrel]

Ah thanks

[drifting kayak]

My Clears for now ! Still looking for a Mirror kill … i havent Loaned a hero yet … how can i kill mirror ?

[ebon cargo]

you got lyca?

[spiral rose]

Cheapish cannon if anyone needs

[ebon cargo]

So I should make a 20330 eorin?

[spiral rose]

Also faction buff puppet, mortas works over mae

[noble wadi]

eorin wants si30

[spiral rose]

Do you have saf rigged

Without saf that comp won't work

[ebon cargo]

nope

[drifting kayak]

Nope

I can merc Lyca

But wyca cant kill mirror alone

[ebon cargo]

must be spooder lv9 difference :(

[spiral rose]

Yes most pet are garbage at 6

[candid quail]

imagine having reso 6

[high hill]

8 minutes

[cedar echo]

Ty, work for me, you find for mirroir ?

[spiral rose]

Listen my goal is 6 kills, time doesn't matter

I don't have the pets, tree, or heros to be faster

[high hill]

try to get 9 minutes

all kills just before timeout

[spiral rose]

I've gotten like 8:35 before, I've tried for 9 mins when I had some spare attempts but it's too hard

Main problem is just mirror slurping up my Merc and all my supports

[high hill]

rip

[ebon cargo]

Slurp slurp

How are you doin r4 without a talene merc

[autumn dome]

I think you can clear it with e talene and l Solise

just slow af

[thick nova]

I think you need a combination of big palmer, big asolise, big pet, big talene. Not sure how many are strictly necessary. I have similar time with Merc talene+no palmer+lion16, and small talene+big palmer+deer12, all with L asol

[autumn dome]

Lorsan OP

(I have no idea if Lorsan invest makes any difference here)

That’s only 14 seconds slower than with a merc talene for me

[high hill]

Just get 16s, no big deal.

[spiral rose]

What's sad is that this is my fastest round

[ebon cargo]

palmer :(

i need palmolive to kill mirror demon

[thick nova]

At some point, I had to lower my lorsan stats when using small talene so she can get palmer buff earlier

[noble wadi]

What did you use on puppet if palmer is there

[spiral rose]

Yeah. Estrilda can get like 6-7b DMG but couldn't do a kill without palmer

Who TF uses palmer on puppet

[noble wadi]

Me

[spiral rose]

.

[ebon cargo]

bert 3 wilders and mortas

[noble wadi]

Oh i forgot its buff thing

[spiral rose]

Even without I don't use palmer there

[noble wadi]

[high hill]

run 5 berts and you'll be fine

[spiral rose]

This is the minimal mirror I could find

[noble wadi]

Awthalia works pretty much the same

[surreal plinth]

How the fuck is this my slowest kill

[thick nova]

Masked is tough. It would be nice to have more alternatives

[surreal plinth]

I dont know what to use there

[spiral rose]

naroko?

[surreal plinth]

Using her in r6

Im killing r6 faster than r1

Guess that will have to do until I find faster r1

[ebon cargo]

here's my mask fwiw

probably gonna do 5 kill this week eventually if i get spooder 9

[sharp condor]

I can kill 5 bosses except for Mirror Demon and I can use merc hetr

Im using Palmer and Ivan R6 (Anastes comps)

[spiral rose]

maybe get a merc for r6 to free up those supports

[ebon cargo]

yeah probably merc asaf for r6 and do what joux says

[sharp condor]

Do I use ABel with ASaf

[spiral rose]

no, crassio or eorin

belinda seems useless now, can't find a place for her

[sharp condor]

Both are trash tho

Trash invest rn

[spiral rose]

idk then good luck ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ebon cargo]

https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/s/LlwyBEiZs4

[drifting kayak]

Not yet

[thorny sorrel]

Belinda can clear the new boss

[spiral rose]

show the comp? couldn't make her work

[thorny sorrel]

I just threw in who I had free and it worked 😅

[noble wadi]

free palmer and ivan

[spiral rose]

well, free because 3 bosses are unkilled lol

[thorny sorrel]

Free from the old boss that rotated out.

[violet hornet]

Palmer ivan raine

[naive mason]

Alright got 3 kills for today.

Might be able to kill 4 this week

[spiral rose]

I was hoping belinda would work on mirror to make that comp a bit cheaper but it didn't 😦

[thorny sorrel]

I should be able to get the light martyr but I don't have the heroes built to get all 6

[naive mason]

Max I can do is 4. I can swap who the 4th is probably but I don't have buff enough heroes to do the setups people shared. To kill puppet I need to put wyca in it.

But got rest of the week to figure out swaps and invests

[drifting kayak]

Abel —-> new boss kill

Just check my clears

It can be done without seal too with owl

[thorny sorrel]

Okay is this better

Supporting Belinda isn't a crime 😩 y'all laugh at anything

[spiral rose]

I'm not laughing just need those supports on other bosses to kill all 6

In particular with L solise and E talene palmer is stuck on martyr and Ivan is needed for me to kill mirrors

Disappointing that I only have one important woke for NC but it is what it is. Mae helps a lil at least

Maybe Belinda will be back on another boss later

[ebon cargo]

Is there any good way to stop the cannon from preventing you from ulting?

[spiral rose]

Kill it

[ebon cargo]

Reading the skills makes it sound like if you cc it 7 times it won't do that but how do you cc it if you can't ult

[steady fjord]

There are skills that CC and aren't ults

[spiral rose]

Almost all cc is abilities lol

I'm most confused by th text that said the first dude can't be controlled but then also once he's controlled X times something happens

[ebon cargo]

Maybe it's supposed to be like puppet where healing restrictions don't work but if you do them 6 times then he breaks

[spiral rose]

That's the best guess I have

[ebon cargo]

But it doesn't have a counter or something unfortunately

[steady fjord]

I think it's the same as how Puppet is healblock immune but applying healblock takes away 1 shield

[spiral rose]

It's just funny that it specifically says "suffers from control effects" when he can't suffer from them

[steady fjord]

It's a badly worded "apply CCs 7 times, these CCs won't control the guy"

[ebon cargo]

Who are the best non ult cc spammers to use then

[steady fjord]

AwThane if leaderboards are a good indicator

[thorny sorrel]

Isn't tamrus pretty big for that

[ebon cargo]

Wonder if L Athane works

[steady fjord]

Tbh, the AwThane times I saw without AwSaf were pretty bad
Haven't tested yet myself though

[ebon cargo]

ugh

can't merc asaf cause of r4 requiring talene

unless i gaze an E talene and can get mirror demon to work without palmer (lol)

[thick nova]

Queen is one of the best

[spiral rose]

You saw my palmerless mirror right

I mean it has Ivan vei and Silas but no palmer!

[ebon cargo]

I can spare ivan, not sure about r2 without silas

Also holy fuck it's weird to call soul hound r2

[spiral rose]

Yeah it is. I used shem trial for it this week, next week idk what I'll do

[ebon cargo]

Are you using remilia for hound still?

I don't know what silas does for hound but i find it completely impossible to win without him ¯_(ツ)_/¯

I also don't have vei anyway

[warped pagoda]

6-kill (early setup, not fine tuned)

4-hero kill for new boss

[ebon cargo]

That's an interesting puppet team what is lucretia for?

Don't have saurus anyway but also don't understand the team comp

Is it just for activating spooder?

That r1 is interesting if i could free up daemia using estrilda instead i could put her in mirror

[oblique spoke]

Also six kill, which could be fine tuned. Mirror Demon subject to RNG.

[steady fjord]

My Mirror managed to be better with Silas than Palmer

[sharp condor]

Damn can I do a Daeless R1

So close to 6 kills

[ebon cargo]

have space for jerome?

[sharp condor]

Jerome is in Mirror

[thick nova]

Naroko works well too, even at m+30

[sharp condor]

No Veithael

My Naroko is at 292e00

Like so close to breakpoints

But so far at the same time

[naive mason]

At least I got the 4 unit kill r6 with big rem merc

[sharp condor]

Put Jerome in R1 now will SI30 Naroko kill this boss?

[ebon cargo]

Please get lyca e60...

[sharp condor]

Yeah lacking a few cores

Around 1k

Lyca at e53

Just decided to do it like that since its not like any hero will get e60 prio anytime soon

[steady fjord]

Huge AwAtha merc is saving my Mirror

[violet hornet]

Same, need Atha merc. My e talene work for martyr

Mirror is still RNG even with Athalia/Palmer

[steady fjord]

I got a 54s Mirror on my first hit using Lion so I'm happy
Already better than my time last week

[spiral rose]

🐳

[steady fjord]

It's the merc carrying me

[sharp condor]

Does ALyca e60 and Naroko +30 kill this boss?

[spiral rose]

https://tenor.com/view/try-it-and-see-give-it-a-try-try-try-and-see-try-it-yourself-gif-24095805

[sharp condor]

Maybe in 3 days

[lyric night]

[sharp condor]

How much dmg does Mirror Demon usually require anyways

[violet hornet]

22B

Something like that

[sharp condor]

My highest is 20b

[lyric night]

I take all my chances for using that gif

[spiral rose]

each mirror has 10b, plus it spawns adds

[sharp condor]

Perhaps it can just gonna have to wait for Rift resources

[steady fjord]

A1 30960 merc last week
A5 35 furn dupes e80 this week

[sharp condor]

My broke ass can't whale resources

[violet hornet]

NC is anti-f2p

[spiral rose]

i try for 6 kill and dip, fuck the leaderboard

[steady fjord]

Good f2p prob can get ~4m10
I'm at 4m57

[thick nova]

I'm 5m31. I need talis and lion 18 to cut like ~20s

[thorny sorrel]

Depends on how old your account is. Getting 4-5 kills with a year old f2p

[surreal plinth]

Yeah thats still pretty anti-f2p if you ask me. 4-5kills is barely enough for Legend r7 so the rewards are like non-existant

[spiral rose]

a fairly slow 5k was legend 55% or so in r7 last week. prob lower this week as the new boss seems reasonable

like half the region can't kill mirrors lol

[surreal plinth]

Oh

Nvm then

[spiral rose]

don't get me wrong it's still anti f2p, especially mirror

that boss takes way too much

[surreal plinth]

I guess thats why we still dont have r8 tho

[autumn dome]

The times in r7 are way slower than other regions still

[ebon cargo]

you'd be basically saying new boss is easier than wailer

[spiral rose]

yeah cause it doesn't need ivan lmao

at least, I couldn't make dusk work without ivan, some ppl could with haelus. and whales used saf crappio eorin

[cursive epoch]

did you get 6 kills?

[spiral rose]

yeah

[cursive epoch]

i think i might be too dumb

[spiral rose]

what are you missing

[cursive epoch]

either puppet or cannon

[spiral rose]

. scroll down a line for puppet

[cursive epoch]

that puppet probably saves me thanks

[spiral rose]

was quite fast with tamrus but I needed it r6 😦

[cursive epoch]

my clears are getting so slow

[spiral rose]

mine have never been fast

[cursive epoch]

ok, thats enough

30s improvement, i'm done

[surreal plinth]

[cursive epoch]

hello

[surreal plinth]

You are done when the first number is a 5 again

[cursive epoch]

thats not happening, f2p life is rough

[surreal plinth]

Don't even need the new woke

F2p as can be

[cursive epoch]

whats your time

it's been 2 months of f2p

[surreal plinth]

5.28

[cursive epoch]

WHAT

[surreal plinth]

[cursive epoch]

waden op

[surreal plinth]

R1 and 2 are my slowest rounds

Not even using waden

[cursive epoch]

teach me

[cursive epoch]

i just need to pray for r8 soon i guess

[cursive epoch]

oh yea

you have solise and luci and a big eorin

[surreal plinth]

E30 crappio saves about 20sec over 203

[cursive epoch]

i won't even try improving my NC i think

already wasted 100 dias to get 6 kills

[surreal plinth]

I think I'm already into 200 gem resets

I hate boss releases

[cursive epoch]

[tardy heath]

Can anyone make suggestions for best case NC?

[rich sphinx]

Likely check posts from anaste and rigged at this channel

[surreal plinth]

You can probably kill r1, 2 and 4
Scarlet Grez raine daemia naroko blade ridge
Rem Emilia twins Silas AEzizh seal/lion
Lorsan talene solise Palmer rosa (following talene) fox/lion/deer/radish

[rich sphinx]

Bel out is sad

[spiral rose]

kraken with +30 saurus

[rich sphinx]

seen teams for cannon but they take a bunch of supports away

[spiral rose]

i saw someone using belinda r1 (as well as scarlet) idk if it's better or not tho

[rich sphinx]

[surreal plinth]

It's worse for me personally

[cursive epoch]

abel r1 frees daemia so it works well for me

[spiral rose]

i just took away daemia anyway

[cursive epoch]

even if its slower