nightmare-corridor

[river palm]

Can't believe Puppet already been here a month

[spiral rose]

4 weeks of hell

[cursive epoch]

[spiral rose]

and the medieval torture starts next week

why can't we have some nice bosses that are just happy

[cursive epoch]

there's only suffering around these parts it seems like

[golden river]

Awlyca is def gonna be required for the new boss

[river palm]

As long as I can get her star in 34 gazes then I'm ready

Also I need 7 more red furn card

[spiral rose]

I'll need above avg odds on both to get her 😠

fk this game

[river palm]

Including the free 94 we get?

[spiral rose]

yea

should end somewhere north of 450 card if my calculation is right

not sure if I'll pull her or someone else, depends on how she does

[west turret]

imma need 600 cards

[river palm]

Maybe ur luck will turn around :copium:

[west turret]

[steady fjord]

Get lucky and get 600 from NC

[west turret]

it'll be reported as a bug and taken away

[thick nova]

I would love me some good awk rates for a change

[river palm]

If I can get average I'll be pretty happy

Also it seems like everyone is gonna build whyca

Guess the extra 2 weeks let a lot of player gather more time card

[thick nova]

I'm gonna have 600+ so I'm gonna build something. Probably lyca, maybe athalia or safiya

[lavish raft]

For lyca i sugest you to wait for a while, to make sure its worth, because safiya and athalia surely are good, but for lyca we still dont know

[thick nova]

I see. That's a good plan

[cinder cape]

any decent subs for olgath on the last boss?

[spiral rose]

I used M+30 Bert with a big lucilla, mortas and ezizh and it killed. Not as fast as with olgath tho

[noble wadi]

Wdym olgath is 1:25

[cursive epoch]

[spiral rose]

maybe with your s lol

[jade linden]

next NC boss

[golden river]

Damn they’ve been going in on the boss design

[jade linden]

Skills aren't shown yet

Before mirror demon we get this

[steady fjord]

So Light Martyr needs 2 things

• Healing: To deal dmg, keep execute target alive & prevent -energy
• Multihit: To stagger it out of the energy blades -> deal more dmg with healing

So it's a boss designed around AwTal

[jade linden]

Is light martyr just Giratina

[west turret]

Yes fused with a roach

[silent aurora]

they must be running out of ideas

[opal veldt]

What are the recommended things to get from dream store?

[spiral rose]

time card first, then if you can do all the quests or close, twins -> sg-> red chests is what I do

option to skip twins and take bait, but imo twins to M is worth it

[opal veldt]

I only just reached 10k rn. Need to look more into teambuilding with what I’ve got. Would you then get twins or go for time and baits?

[spiral rose]

100% get time cards before anything else

id do time card then sg then all in bait with what you got

[opal veldt]

Okay, thank you!

[median copper]

Where can i find budget kill runs?

[rich sphinx]

Stuff like this?
https://old.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/16avfyo/nc_5_boss_kill_f2p_budget_heroes_maetria_loaned/

Tend to find some decent/achievable teams posted in there, sadly there is no NC flair to filter through though

[median copper]

ur a blessing yea tysm

[rich sphinx]

Glad to help

[thick nova]

I wonder if Libby can link the martyr with the execution target?

[steady fjord]

Should be able to but Martyr would still only take 0.01% of the Link dmg anyway

And Lib probably too important for Puppet

[silent aurora]

is atalene good against martyr

[thick nova]

She does a lot of attacks in her ult, but timing will have to be just right, and she also steals health, so idk. I think asol may be better for the necessary healing. Maybe they can work together too

[silent aurora]

i guess we should wait till it comes out

[marble temple]

How am I supposed to do these?

[spiral rose]

time travel a few weeks back when that buff was active

[marble temple]

So it can't be done now?

[spiral rose]

nope

[marble temple]

I see,thanks

[rich sphinx]

lvl 350 or 30 ascended units, will take you a while

30 ascended for CR too, before that what you have is practically a trial

That's fine, you're not even being ranked yet anyway

Which mode are we talking about here again?

[spiral rose]

No it's when you don't even get in the t100% that the game is calling you bad

[rich sphinx]

That's rough

[spiral rose]

You won't do well when you're new, but as you get stronger your ranks go up

[sleek panther]

Can't do it without ascended 😦

[cursive epoch]

you can probably do it with a built olgath instead

[thick nova]

Check if boss is healing too much and maybe try with ira instead of Lucretia or some other hero

[cursive epoch]

also there's hypo buff active, so 3 hypos increase your team dmg

[thick nova]

I know I needed both ira and mortas, but I also used rem

This is my best kill

My Libby has full T4 gear too

[west turret]

@icy tinsel what was ur olgath comp for r6

[icy tinsel]

Probably works better with Luci 9F, and Spider, but I don't have either

[sleek panther]

Thanks blocking the healing worked

[west turret]

Hmm yeah my Luci and asol too smol

[icy tinsel]

Who're you mercing?

[west turret]

Asol from hythlo or yon Olgath

Time is fairly comparable

So guess I can’t improve anything sadly, time to wait for roach

[cursive epoch]

whats your time aefryn

[west turret]

~54 with olgath or asol on puppet. Overall thru rng is 5:6.99s

[cursive epoch]

pretty good time

[west turret]

Thx yeah the Ivan upgrade let me moved raine to mask

If I can get 9f on wthalia I can move Baden to r1 maybe and Mae to to roach or other way around

[autumn dome]

just die already

[cursive epoch]

did you try ira?

[autumn dome]

Yeah if I use Solise then not enough dps with Ira and if I use Maetria instead of Solise then Ira dies to her passive. What do you use to kill Soul Hound if you’re not using Rem

[cursive epoch]

vei/baden/trishea?

not sure

[spiral rose]

can't merc for that?

[autumn dome]

merc for what

I can’t kill it with Mae or Asolise

[spiral rose]

bert

get a big bert and you can def kill. I killed with M+30

[autumn dome]

with L Solise?

[spiral rose]

yea

with a bigger bert you won't need the big lucilla... plus you have more tree and pets than me I'm sure

[autumn dome]

I don’t have Spooder though

I couldn’t even copy proxy’s clear with Rem

[spiral rose]

can use seal

[autumn dome]

Maybe I can build my own Liberta to M and that will be enough with my current team

I’m using seal already

basically I can burst him down to like 15% at the end and then the shields come back up

[spiral rose]

oh then you wil def kill with a bigger liberta lol

[autumn dome]

[unkempt nebula]

my puppet kill was very scuffed too, I only got 6 kills in 1 attempt out of all the ones I did lol

[cursive epoch]

[autumn dome]

5:10

quite a bit slower than previous weeks but 6 kills is nice

[cursive epoch]

are you r6?

[autumn dome]

5 kills with a fast time was like top 25% in r7

[autumn dome]

r7

[cursive epoch]

[spiral rose]

Fk I shouldn't have given you advice lol

[cursive epoch]

[spiral rose]

Now I go down a rank

[cursive epoch]

yea, henry beat my time

[autumn dome]

5:10 is top 8.3% right now.

[golden river]

[autumn dome]

I think top 10% is usually in the 4:xx’s in r7?

[west turret]

either e60 luci and/or 9f on bert will speed up puppet for me i think

[autumn dome]

Yeah next week there’s no faction buff to help

[west turret]

ikr back to bert+ira+asol next week

[spiral rose]

I doubt I kill next week

[unkempt nebula]

lyca trial will save us its ok

[spiral rose]

I'll prob pop the week after? Idk

Depends on if ppl find comps for the new boss

[autumn dome]

Taking Liberta from M -> 303e60 cut off about 30 seconds on puppet

[hushed idol]

4 heroes fof demonic puppet?

[surreal plinth]

Luci ezizh cruke Bert spooder worked for me
Someone else did it with luci luc mortas Bert lion

[celest oxide]

i have e+ bert gg

[quasi ledge]

any thoughts? I'm on my last try

I can't even kill the bastard with 5 heroes

is my borrowed L lucille any good?

[steady fjord]

If you're going to merc for it, at least go for a 30360 Liberta

[quasi ledge]

I merced the lucille for misty valley (bad idea)

[lyric night]

3m36s. best nc time ive had so far. while cr sucked this round....

[steady fjord]

I could copy this if there were 5 merc slots and you could use them all at once

[lyric night]

[dapper hemlock]

No olgath

[lyric night]

i merced that olgath. glad most of my aw heroes were of use here

[lyric night]

merc?

[dapper hemlock]

Mercing lib

[steady fjord]

Nvm, I'd actually need 6 mercs to copy you

[dapper hemlock]

Oh and can’t do atha r4 too

[dapper hemlock]

Who ?

[lyric night]

my bad

[steady fjord]

Mae, AwAtha, Olgath, Luci, Lib, AwSol

Casually got 1/5 for R6

[lyric night]

theres a better team for r5 too. with trish. too bad cant use two mercs so

[dapper hemlock]

I’m running my E Luci that I got from the event

[lyric night]

luci requires low investment i think

[steady fjord]

Why is your AwEz frontline anyway

[lyric night]

does better than p3

tried swapping

best with frontline is in the 30s. just my best didt get it

[steady fjord]

Wtf 30s

[lyric night]

ikr?! i was surprised too

lemme find it

[steady fjord]

I'm using almost the same thing and it peaks 55s

[lyric night]

rngeses

ugh

nvm mixed it up with r4/6 i think. best was 49.xs

[quasi ledge]

🐳

[slow dust]

R7 olgath merc

[simple stirrup]

How do you guys do the quest

I cant kill the boss nor with 4 heroes

[high hill]

Man round 7? You're playing a different game than me

[slow dust]

Region

[slow dust]

[high hill]

[lucid salmon]

can someone help me make teams that can kill 1 or 2 bosses

i used to be able to kill 2 but now i cant even kill 1

[violet hornet]

What's the position of each hero?

[river palm]

Doesn't really matter. 1 2 3 4 works

[drifting kayak]

Exaclty as u see them

[violet hornet]

[cursive epoch]

@spiral rose

[spiral rose]

Ty

[cursive epoch]

they are terrible

[spiral rose]

I think I'm just fucked on puppet

M+30 Bert no lucilla no merc

And I need dae in scarlet

[cursive epoch]

dae carries there i think

[spiral rose]

E dae too

[autumn dome]

Puppet suckkkkks

This is my best clear

It loses like 75% of the time

[noble wadi]

is seal even doing that much there?

[thick nova]

Small libby I think requires both twins and mortas

If not dae, I mean

[autumn dome]

I used up like 20 retries just trying to find a comp that could clear it at all and seal comps seemed to be doing more damage than the other pets I tried

I tried seal on t6 and it didn’t change the time

[noble wadi]

i thought spooder is boosting lib dmg by 40%

[autumn dome]

oh maybe Spooder is better but I’m still tricking it so it’s lvl 0

[noble wadi]

oof

actually its 50%

[autumn dome]

Why does mishka work on puppet anyway

Does she have heal block?

or is it just the def reduce from her ult

[golden river]

If anyone wants my hits

[surreal plinth]

I dont think 12 deer does anything

[golden river]

[west turret]

why so vertical

[river palm]

So we're just gonna chuck Mae into Puppet now

[steady fjord]

Pretty sure only the dmg matters not the healing

[golden river]

cuz I’m different

[steady fjord]

It's pretty funny seeing Talene ult and deal like 40% of Martyr's hp

[golden river]

Actually

[surreal plinth]

Tried her over mishka in my comp and its slower (with either sp)

[spiral rose]

I put Mae r1, tho I can't kill puppet

[cursive epoch]

did you get 5 kills, joux?

[spiral rose]

Nope

Can't figure out Belinda without palmer, or R6 without palmer

[west turret]

e67

[spiral rose]

no

[surreal plinth]

Did you check my comp?

Ah nvm I forgot I had big owl

[spiral rose]

yeah turns out 40 haste is good

[surreal plinth]

[spiral rose]

i'll play more later

[surreal plinth]

Where are you using dae? Or is she only E or sth?

[spiral rose]

she's E, in scarlet rn

that round is also a shit show

[surreal plinth]

[spiral rose]

rough life for f2p

[formal totem]

Its funny to see whales struggling early

[river palm]

My best time vs mask without dae is 1m30.1s

[formal totem]

30.1

[unkempt nebula]

I'm guessing e talene doesnt work on new boss?

[river palm]

She does

[unkempt nebula]

[spiral rose]

with wolise

[unkempt nebula]

[surreal plinth]

[thick nova]

It seems 309e30 nevanthi can replace mortas in R6. At least I got similar (shitty) time, with Merc solise and smol talene.

[unkempt nebula]

damn theres a lot of krakens in rank 190-198 in r7 right now

[surreal plinth]

Where else are you using mortas?

[thick nova]

R5

[surreal plinth]

[thick nova]

I don't have luci yet

[surreal plinth]

Ah okay

[unkempt nebula]

[thick nova]

I got a 7min40s 6-kills. Probably can lower with RNG and big talene Merc (which seems better than big solise Merc)

[merry ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-very-sloth-slow-gif-15217258118848753873

[thick nova]

You tell me... if only rngesus had graced me with good rates and I got m Libby...

[river palm]

It would be nice to find a Puppet kill that didn't take 1m25s+

[surreal plinth]

Dont you have both luci and bert and even wyca now?

[drifting kayak]

I can give u 5kills comp if u want

[tired prawn]

maybe this will be helpful for someone

[river palm]

Only kraken have luci

I'm no kraken

[spiral rose]

sure if you can just show r2 without palmer

or r6 without

[drifting kayak]

Sec

[surreal plinth]

[drifting kayak]

@spiral rose

It might take you some retries though

[golden river]

We’re flopping around help

[thick nova]

Palmer-less, mortas-less R6. Rosa on talene

[unkempt nebula]

guess im just getting 5 kills this month

cause i dont think lyca trial is saving me either

[golden river]

Surprisingly yeah don’t think awlyca will help that much

[cursive epoch]

i'm hoping awlyca enables puppet kill

otherwise i'm fucked next week

[unkempt nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-it-sponge-bob-gif-5332916

[cursive epoch]

[thick nova]

Mine has been an improvement over ira (it's a consistent kill, and about 10s faster)

[unkempt nebula]

rem

[golden river]

Yeah awlyca has helped my puppet a lot

[thick nova]

I hope +30 rem helps too, soon

[unkempt nebula]

I need rem for hound

[thick nova]

I use eorin there it's decent

[unkempt nebula]

interesting

[thick nova]

Eorin gets me 12s faster r1 over drez, but then I struggle with puppy

Oh, and ftr, seal does 3.4b damage to hound, so I guess he's relevant too

[golden river]

just a bit relevant

[unkempt nebula]

thankfully I have seal 18 now

[spiral rose]

thanks , I'll see if I can make it work

[drifting kayak]

Good luck mate

[autumn dome]

Seal 18 takes about 15 seconds off against soul hound vs my talismane or winged lion, but I can’t clear puppet with my setup without using seal

[river palm]

Day 1 hit

[golden river]

Congrats on the 18 tali

[spiral rose]

How long until puppet is gone

I may never kill him again

[drifting kayak]

Me either

But again … from my heroes left unused i think i cant kill any other boss

[spiral rose]

Yeah my r1 is pretty cheap, I'm super fucked on the next boss as well

[golden river]

Fire daemon, dusk, and mask seem like child’s play compared to the newer ones

[spiral rose]

Dusk and mask are still taking so many of my good supports

Ofc I can't even kill puppet with those supports so I'm Uber fucked there

The new one isn't so bad except that it'll just permanently take a Merc slot

[river palm]

Time to build 1lene

[golden river]

Never

[river palm]

I think I'm supposed to build naroko I feel like I see her everywhere

[golden river]

Popped up in all modes

[spiral rose]

🪱 get wormed 🪱

[golden river]

🪱

[thick nova]

Did you try swapping Rosa and palmer? I got better overall time like that, with small talene tho

[river palm]

What is smile talent

Oh talene lol

[river palm]

Yep that worked better! -5s. Thanks 😊

[thick nova]

It's what my fat thumb wanted to say

[west turret]

rowan instead of haelus might be faster

i got 51s with level 10 owl

[river palm]

I tried that already, it didn't even kill

[west turret]

RNG maybe

i got 59s with my broke ass si1 3f hae lmao

[surreal plinth]

Thanks

Could be 10 sec less with perfect rng but retries getting expensive

[west turret]

yeah imma stop after 2 more tries later

and resume near end

[surreal plinth]

I lied

Now I stop tho

[golden river]

Oh dang this helped a lot, thanks proxy!

[west turret]

fucking eorin haunts me

[golden river]

I was struggling with dusk since I had Palmer in r6, but moving Palmer back with Abel and Rosa with talene is a good balance

[river palm]

I think luci merc would be better for me than talene merc

[golden river]

The heal block is

[river palm]

Lf luci

[golden river]

Mine doesn’t have e30

You prolly want a super maxed one

[river palm]

Give me your luci . Unmerc it from whoever this loga... person is and give it to me

[golden river]

damn this person, it can be yours at reset

[river palm]

I can probably find 30360 one at reset

[golden river]

That is true

[river palm]

The only people with a 30960 luci on my fl are Kaia and choerry

Need more kraken friend

[golden river]

Steal it from nno, he’s lending it to Alice

[surreal plinth]

She's only 30930

[river palm]

Is 30930 better than 30360

[golden river]

Oh it’s not e60

[surreal plinth]

I don't think the 9f does anything so e60 probably better

[river palm]

Howd u get her 9f so fast. Did u card it

Knowing that it doesn't do anything

[surreal plinth]

I carded 3f and then just got super lucky from normal furn draws

[golden river]

I think he said it was pure luck

[river palm]

I don't wanna wait for reset I wanna hit now

Someone whale me a luci

[golden river]

🫡 yes sir

[west turret]

is si 30 on luci even worth it?

[golden river]

I thought it was but seems like people think si20 is good enough

[river palm]

Si30 is cheap for kraken so whatever

[west turret]

i think ill save it for ana so i can actually start using her

[river palm]

When am I gonna find the time to engrave my anasta

[golden river]

Wonder if worm > anasta

[west turret]

^ deciding on that too

but i think imma hold off on worm cuz no furn

[river palm]

Worm seems to need it more . Debuffing is poor without e60

[golden river]

[river palm]

I also wonder if ginneas is better in cr than mishka

[golden river]

Honestly surprised they didn’t give some sort of attack buff to allies on his skills too

Seems like all these new heroes are energy batteries/attack buffers

[spiral rose]

Only so many ways you can power creep with just raw numbers after all

[river palm]

There's only one way to power creep with raw numbers, which is make bigger number, and as a power creep mechanism it's extremely effective

[autumn dome]

They actually did

[golden river]

Oh

I had a feeling they did and I forgot

[hushed idol]

i'm surprised that the new boss doesn't favors newest hero, ALyca in this case.
and what she is just a buffer for berta? how huge she gives to buff berta there?

[river palm]

They were torn between customizing the boss for the new hero and making bank or customizing it for their golden child talene. Ultimately their chicken obsession won out

[hushed idol]

lol dark talene in this case?

[river palm]

Thr new boss is a talene boss normal chicken

[fleet plume]

@cursive epoch clears please

[crystal plaza]

Is there a server like cursed friends or anything where I can find formations that work for f2p non whales? Haven't been able to make workable teams

[river palm]

No such server to my knowledge. Can dig through here, cursed friends have some nc channel I think, crowdsource, etc. Demon got budget clears, Dusk need abel, Mask don't need woke, dog don't need woke, Puppet is hard to kill on a budget, martyr super ez with swolise. U get one merc so that patch one woke hole

[spiral rose]

Dog need aezizh 😄

[crystal plaza]

Where can I find those such clears?

[warped pagoda]

My clears, in case they help anyone. Talene merc.

[honest timber]

8m

[warped pagoda]

Don’t judge - 6 kills is enough to make me happy for now. Timing is secondary 😅 but if you have obvious suggestions for improvements let me know! (Besides using r1 buff - I’ll try some shuffles to use the buff later, for now wanted to make sure I had a 6-kill setup independent of buff.)

[honest timber]

wait till weekend

[warped pagoda]

[little skiff]

@digital basalt

[steady fjord]

[little skiff]

Should I pull Lyca soon

[digital basalt]

[cinder cape]

Does Talene need engraving to work on newest boss?

[thick nova]

I could kill with e+ talene, but time is better with fat talene

[hushed idol]

do i need lucilla to make liberta works?

[ebon cargo]

easy 4 man light martyr kill first try, asolise merc

positions. lv6 soufflé can probably be anything, i bet owl works better

[steady fjord]

Owl usually needed for R2 Dusk

[ebon cargo]

why the fuck is the duskwailer so hard

[ebon cargo]

4 man kill is just a throwaway attempt imo

[thick nova]

Anasta is important. You need a high TY hero to debuff the boss more frequently

[ebon cargo]

i have been playing for 7 months and had anasta on my wl the entire time

i have gotten two copies

game fucken says no don't build her

[thick nova]

If no anasta built, look for warriors (e.g. ABrutus). They have the most ty, I think

[spiral rose]

Did you read her skills? Put Belinda p4 lol

[ebon cargo]

This is a mobile game not a book do i look like i can read 🤣

[spiral rose]

Middle back gets big buffs

[ebon cargo]

it worked ty

[spiral rose]

[ebon cargo]

no idea how to kill those other 3 though tbh

[noble wadi]

merc talene

[spiral rose]

Puppet will be impossible, you should be able to Merc talene for r6

Or swolise, I haven't tested which is better to Merc vs use at 1 copy

[ebon cargo]

need merc for hound

[thick nova]

Oh, I though that screen was inverting the order, like some others do

[noble wadi]

talene by far

[spiral rose]

Ah ok, I just saw some ppl using e talene with swolise

[thick nova]

I used swolise. My talene Merc request is still pending response

[spiral rose]

Show your r3? It can be done with cheapish heros

[river palm]

get more big friends, every old big player got a 5* talene

[spiral rose]

In particular an E copy of dae

[ebon cargo]

I am mercing dae for hound lol

@spiral rose

[spiral rose]

Did you try Silas?

For hound

[ebon cargo]

I don't have his si30

[spiral rose]

I don't either

[ebon cargo]

Ur saying just put in a normal ass silas for dae

[spiral rose]

This mode is all about proper support distribution

[ebon cargo]

This mode is for people who have more than 10 heroes built

[spiral rose]

Depending on tree and pets you might not kill, but I killed with 209 Silas . Try green ball if you have reso 6

[ebon cargo]

I have reso 6 but my seal talis and lion are lv9

[spiral rose]

Then you can run scarlet grezh dae Raine estrilda for r3

Seal is good on hound then

[ebon cargo]

Wtf no i need my raine for the duskwailer and i need grez for the fire demon

[spiral rose]

You don't need either, but whatever

[ebon cargo]

My comps suck

They aren't needed if your heroes are fat enough i agree

[spiral rose]

not gonna waste my breath helping someone that doesn't want help

[ebon cargo]

oh my bad i didn't mean to sound like that

i will try it

i didn't really know what i can do for backward facing dmg other than grez

[spiral rose]

do you have joan, mulan, or eorin (even 203)?

[ebon cargo]

I mean, I guess i can try to do lovhtbearers for the buff and use an L AThane but it seemed like it would be not that good

I have Joan (20/0/0) and Mulan (30960)

[spiral rose]

mulan jumps behind and joan will run behind

[ebon cargo]

I didn't realize that would make her face backwards, interesting

I don't have an E Daemia either way but i can try putting silas in hound round with seal to see what happens

Should i go with those 2 dims and 3 wilders, or 3 lbs?

I don't really know wtf sonja and friends are gonna do though since the lb supports would be used in other comps lol

hmm 4 kill does look possible with rng

I could put in estrilda for liberta but she was being used as a link 😭

[noble wadi]

what link

[ebon cargo]

emilia

[noble wadi]

oh dim

[ebon cargo]

I did this before NC existed for me, lol

I guess it's only 100 dia to fix it

Still missing si 30 on ivan maybe i can fix that this week somehow

Idk if that duskwailer issue is rng or if it's a bad comp

[spiral rose]

100% worth grabbing an E dae

[ebon cargo]

pulling time?

i'm predicting 50

[spiral rose]

+30 ivan is pretty cruc yeah

[ebon cargo]

62

this game fkn hates me

i think 3f on silas would probably help here too

[spiral rose]

yeah that's a good dmg boost on rem

my ideas might not be possible yet but when you get a bit more investment they should be

[ebon cargo]

Lol unfortunately by that point my fire demon comp will be useless (buff gone)

[cursive epoch]

@abstract scroll

[honest timber]

how many cards

[abstract scroll]

R1 30s where

[cursive epoch]

no 30s when i need atha to kill mask

[abstract scroll]

Ok maybe eorin too smol

[cursive epoch]

cause i need dae to kill puppet

cause i need a merc to kill martyr

it's a trainwreck

[spiral rose]

Next boss requires maxed titus

[harsh cove]

This worked for me 1-moth 2-owl 3-ridge 4-lion 5- spooder 6- seal

[abstract scroll]

F2poor moment

[cursive epoch]

ok, i improved it again by 2s

[abstract scroll]

Tam might be better than rowan r5

[honest timber]

if you dont use eorin in r1, you can use R5 like this
mae - luci - tam - bert - eorin

[cursive epoch]

i moved tam to soul hound so i could move twins to mask so i could move atha back to fdaemon

luci you mean E lucilla?

[honest timber]

for R3 : if dae is taken, silas can be a good sub

[honest timber]

yes

[cursive epoch]

let me try that

ok, i don't think i have a unit to put here

oh, i'm dumb, i have

[honest timber]

twins or silas

[cursive epoch]

yea, units too small to do that

i need dae for puppet

[honest timber]

poor tam

[cursive epoch]

lucilla just dead weight

[merry ridge]

I cracked the code

[cursive epoch]

[high hill]

yooo nice work.

I'm still at 3m 50s

[merry ridge]

Finally big brained round 5

[high hill]

but I haven't tried too hard yet

I think I can knock time off of 3 rounds still

[merry ridge]

Round 5 is either 50 sec or 28 sec

[frank crest]

Liberta - mercenary.

[high hill]

yeah I saw the alyca r5 that can get down to 28s. haven't tried it yet - does lyca need furn?

[merry ridge]

I don’t know if required. Check in guild nc chat

[high hill]

ty

[little skiff]

290 + 10 in 6 days from store

Easy A

[honest timber]

[cursive epoch]

you got this, james

[little skiff]

[tawdry prawn]

Any replacement for Talene in last fight of NC?

[thick nova]

There is... but you won't like it. It's liberta

[tawdry prawn]

heh, then who to replace Liberta with in the previous boss?

[river palm]

Talene

[tawdry prawn]

-_-

[thick nova]

But martyr can be killed by tiny talene, if you have fat supports

[tawdry prawn]

mm struggling to kill previous boss without Liberta, and still can't down last one with Lib :/

[thick nova]

Is there any place to use asafi now?

[cursive epoch]

soul hound

[golden river]

Helps my r4 have a much more stable kill

That was a struggle

[river palm]

The krakens don't even use saf

[thick nova]

I'm done with NC this week. This is my best run. Talene Merc.

I got some ideas from @sleek grove , and mixed with my own things to cut almost a minute from my early runs. I hope it helps everyone.

P.s. I tested martyr with e+ talene and L solise with those supports and got 1min05s kill. Maybe I could get better total time with another Merc, like a fat libby.

[fleet plume]

@sleek sequoia u could probably find something from this

[cursive epoch]

[formal totem]

[cursive epoch]

[median copper]

Who should i merc to kill r1?

Couldnt find any budget comps that i had all units invested for

[silent aurora]

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F714guaor91ob1.jpg

[spiral rose]

Awthalia, or a big eorin

If you have 203 eorin you should be able to kill this week tho

[silent aurora]

https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/16gz912/nightmare_corridor/

try these two teams

[median copper]

missing 3f, i so low on poe
kk ty lemme go try

[silent aurora]

eorin needs 203

[median copper]

worth carding?

[silent aurora]

depends on how much you value NC

[median copper]

meh, i can only get 2 kills, maybe 3 if i card him

[silent aurora]

just do ur best

[autumn dome]

Like Celowz said you can use her on soul hound and it frees up Veithael

[spiral rose]

i saw her used r6 with swolise to not use talene (it's v slow but frees up merc)

[cursive epoch]

that probably works if you have vei and baden

so you can move rem around

[autumn dome]

I merced a fat wolise but I wonder if L wolise and a fat talene would be better

I need more merc slots

I guess I don’t really need to merc Mae anymore…

[thick nova]

It's maybe a bit better, but not a lot. Depends on other supports

[cursive epoch]

i think i misplayed this NC

[thick nova]

Palmer is the key for lower times, I think, even if not required for the kill

[cursive epoch]

your alt with rosa instead of palmer is good tho

[autumn dome]

hmm I need seal for puppet so idk if the difference would be that big

Worth trying though

[river palm]

well the good thing is that it's not over

[cursive epoch]

did you try souflee?

[thick nova]

I even got a 1:05 with e+ talene and L solise, but with both palmer and rosa

[cursive epoch]

nah, i retried too much already, not worth it for this one

[river palm]

gamba is always worth it

[cursive epoch]

i need those dias for HoE if i want to try masters tomorrow

[autumn dome]

I think so but I can’t remember

[autumn dome]

I used so many retries already lol

[little skiff]

Dayum

[steady fjord]

Souffle is best for R6 anyway

[thick nova]

I didn't see much difference from souffle to Bambi, both at 12

[cursive epoch]

the second one could be around 650~655 i think @formal totem

[formal totem]

ic ty

[cursive epoch]

also, i could fix r6 with asol merc instead, but i didn't test it much

if you find a way to get better times, i'll need it

[steady fjord]

The fking e60 Lib and Ira on the same team is way too funny

[west turret]

R2 is CAN fail.

[cursive epoch]

[west turret]

Oh right I forgot to test ira again Lol

Maybe ira do better than waden

[cursive epoch]

i know you didn't, but if you run ira you can't do maetria

cause maetria just kills ira

[west turret]

I tried mae but it didn't help much

[cursive epoch]

yea, mae/luc did the same for me

[west turret]

Yeah I yeeted luc and mae cuz they aren't helping

[cursive epoch]

your khaz comp was good tho with the anti heal

no need for ira

[west turret]

It was but I got too hung up on trying to get some buff

I'll try khaz again

Nope

[cursive epoch]

wth, a lot worse

[west turret]

How is the no khaz doing better

[cursive epoch]

yea, and look at the healing, it heals so much less with him, and even then its slower

[west turret]

Yeah wdf the 58 seconds

900m healing

[cursive epoch]

i think for some reason the first comp can keep the shield down for longer

no clue how taht works

[west turret]

But gonna gonna wait for hythlo whane

Before trying Lyon changes

[steady fjord]

Khaz is stealing Lib's B.Orbs and taking the energy

[west turret]

O

[steady fjord]

Guessing it targets Silas in your other comp? Then ig Silas ults someone else to give them dmg

[cursive epoch]

is there a way to manip bert targetting?

[steady fjord]

It just targets lowest HP

[cursive epoch]

cause it seems like even the second comp with silas + khaz, he still targets khaz

[steady fjord]

Because your Khaz is M he'll steal it

[cursive epoch]

makes sense

[west turret]

Ah yeah Bert link thing is on Silas which is probably better

Luci has lower hp tho

[steady fjord]

20330 Luci shouldn't have less HP

[steady fjord]

It's actually based on current hp % too, but it just defaults to lowest max if everyone's at full

[west turret]

Maybe I should try removing Silas chest

And see if time improves by taking luci for sure higher hp?

[cursive epoch]

if you can manip lowest max with khaz not being lowest it can work

[steady fjord]

Oh Luci is prob stealing it in your normal comp anyway ig

[west turret]

Is it bad if luci steals it

[steady fjord]

But Khaz stealing it must be even worse than Luci stealing it

The hero who takes it gets all the energy that Lib generates, so you want it on someone with an impactful spammable ult

Luci can't even ult while her's is still active

[west turret]

Hmm so ideally Silas is most impactful with buffing everyone

[steady fjord]

Well best case is Lib himself

But you probably can't get that

[west turret]

Yeah I would need a fatter lucy, and Silas

r1 Merc Whane, r3 wthalia improved a bit, but E talene and L asol can't roach unless i swap mortas for rosa, but now my r2 can't kill

[river palm]

Should i take lib armor off

[steady fjord]

If that manips the HP properly, might as well try

[west turret]

naked lib still has more HP than luci and silas

[river palm]

Well hp varies a lot during battles it just has to let him get low enough during the fight at some point for him to target himself at least one more time than he normally would for it to have an impact

[west turret]

I'll try end of this week hopefully I don't need to pop trial yet

[median copper]

Does the roach set up work with E+ mortas and E talene

how important is the si30 and furn for mmortas

[sleek sequoia]

i’m guessing a built solise and a mortas is needed for that last comp right

[thick nova]

Did you try and it didn't work?

[sleek sequoia]

i can still only kill one

[sleek sequoia]

yeah L solise didn’t cut it

[thick nova]

I see, too bad

[sleek sequoia]

yeah my goal is 3 maybe 4 kills but on abel round i’m only getting like 50%

and i think my seal only being lvl 7 means i can’t kill with the scar-grez comp

[cursive epoch]

its either built solise or build talene, you can sub mortas with rosa i think

[sleek sequoia]

using rosa with abel but i’ll try some stuff

[cursive epoch]

you got this, nitro

[sleek sequoia]

[sleek sequoia]

@thick nova would +20 anasta help at all here or is it the 3f that makes the difference? i’m getting that boss down to 25% now

[thick nova]

+20 gives her 30 tenacity, so it's important there. She also gains some ty from gear, furniture and engravings. The more the merrier.

How much initial ty does your anasta have?

[noble wadi]

Bruh did you read my message about ur nc earlier?

[sleek sequoia]

the one in scrumble chat? yes i tried it to no avail sorry pizza

[noble wadi]

Why did you put talene front then

[thick nova]

Hm.. talene front is bad

She gets caged and doesn't do anything

Lots of people blindingly copying early whale runs do that, and it eventually kills if huge talene and supports

[sleek sequoia]

i was copying ducky’s comps

[noble wadi]

[median copper]

Any way I can make this work without a merc?

Or using any units from r2 so I can get 3 kills

[thick nova]

Swap talene and lorsan. Maybe Try white ball pet, since he improves received healing on lorsan. I think you are better using another support/healer than small liberta, but maybe fixing lorsan position change things. Watch the battle to confirm that lorsan is getting caged and not talene or some of your supports. If that doesn't work, I guess you really need either palmer or Rosa.

[median copper]

Bless ty

Yeah even Lorsan is the one trapped still 4 bil off

Ig I need a bigger swolise or a better sup

[thick nova]

Silas may work there too, but I haven't tested him

[median copper]

I’ll give it a shot

Silas instead of lib decrease it by a bil

[thick nova]

Are you putting decent gear on talene?

She needs as high attack as possible

[median copper]

T1 gear

Ahh I see

[thick nova]

Maybe try some T2 5* weapon or T3 from someone else

[median copper]

I’ll play around then to see if I can get a budget kill then yeah

I appreciate the help

[median copper]

Wait sry one quesrion who would Rosa follow

Is it swolise or talene

[thick nova]

Talene

[median copper]

8 Bil

im so close to getting the kill with super budget

what if i ascend lorsan? will it make any differeance

[thick nova]

Unlikely. Buffing talene is the way, afaik

[median copper]

i got it to kill with palmer

but now my Abelinda team cant kill

tried rowan, and anasta. i think im just stuck at 2 kills

[silent aurora]

do ur best

[west turret]

abel team without palmer is rough. I had to increase my engraving for a better chance at kill

i think a bigger ivan can help too

[spiral rose]

i put seal with belinda, it hurt soul hound time a lot but got me a kill without having to spend red core lol

my ivan was smol then, it's bigger now so might be better

[river palm]

i wonder how much ty is necessary to consistently resist dusk

[spiral rose]

good thing I already did belinda TY node for TS

[river palm]

ok now get e63 for the e60+ ty node

[thick nova]

Probably a lot. Whales use E60 dae

[west turret]

ugh im still using dae in mask

[thick nova]

E60 Anasta can reach 110 without dae. E60 Abel can reach 81 with dae

[thick nova]

Yeah, dae with Abel is whale move

[west turret]

oh is that why people run anasta in dusk a lot

i was like wdf why is she used thought u wanted more dmg from 4 unit synergy

[river palm]

people use her in dusk bc she has her vuln effect on sig . i'm pretty sure the only ty that matters on the team is p4's, and abel is always p4 because p4 gets the dmg buff if they resist dusk charm. there are p4 anasta carry comps too, and they use her for her ty and ok dmg output, but those are budget comps for players who somehow don't have abel. since everyone has abel now I don't think it gets run anymore

[spiral rose]

i still see ppl using ana with belinda

[river palm]

yeah bc the vuln

[spiral rose]

oh i didn't read the very first thing you said

[river palm]

[thick nova]

Yeah, you are right. TIL

[cedar forge]

crassio or naroko +30

i’m not using either in comps rn crass is 203e30 and i can bring naroko up to same ez

[golden river]

Naroko just more relevant atm…I think

[cedar forge]

i was leaning towards crassio cuz he’s the actual carry in the comp he’s in and naroko just replaces estrilda

[golden river]

She’s not in any nc team comps tho

Unless there’s other comps im not aware of

[cedar forge]

she’s always been in mask curator with scarlet

[steady fjord]

Naroko can be used either on Mask or Puppet

[golden river]

Oh interesting

[rich sphinx]

What's the minimum by the way? 3033x?

[cedar forge]

oh i just realized the comp crassio was in was for the boss that just got dropped

[abstract scroll]

Naro 100%

[lyric night]

crassio dropping out of meta

[cedar forge]

yeah if naroko is good with puppet that’s who i’m having trouble killing rn

lmaooo speaking of naroko

[abstract scroll]

Almost dropped

[cedar forge]

actually don’t know what narokos min invest is either tbh

[river palm]

non-crassio builders on top 💪

[abstract scroll]

+30 for scar round in NC

[cedar forge]

that it?

[abstract scroll]

Yeah

[cedar forge]

i’ll e30 her either way tbh but neat okay

[abstract scroll]

[lyric night]

does she work w/o furn?

[cedar forge]

if she just wants +30 i can save my diamonds for bert now too

[thick nova]

Her buffs scale off her attack, so +30 and as much attack as possible, I guess

[abstract scroll]

So e6x

[rich sphinx]

Her e3x is e38 for atk/haste, right?

[abstract scroll]

Maybe IS too

[lyric night]

save for bert

[steady fjord]

IS irrelevant for NC but should be good in CR

[cedar forge]

so how’s she used in clown

and there isn’t really a fill for talene with martyr is there

[lyric night]

I think there is actually. With Nev or something.

[spiral rose]

There are swolise subs but they're super slow

[lyric night]

Prob wait and c what sub comps r gonna pop up

[cedar forge]

slow is better than not killing rn

[lyric night]

True

[spiral rose]

Haven't seen anything without one so if you don't have swolise you have to Merc anyway

[cedar forge]

talking about talene not solise

i got solise

[spiral rose]

Yeah and I'm saying swolise can sub lol

With e talene

[cedar forge]

oh she’s already in the comp tho

[spiral rose]

I saw some clears with just E talene, not needing a maxed talene

still needs palmer tho

[golden river]

@earnest kiln @slow dust

[earnest kiln]

that r5 fucks me up because i need to merc bert so it just messes up r6

[cedar forge]

oh i just wasn’t putting palmer in, that worked but now i need a fill for palmer with belinda

[golden river]

Yeah seems like that’s everyone’s struggle, choosing between one of the twins or talene

[cedar forge]

i’m just shuffling around which boss i can’t kill at this point lmao

[earnest kiln]

i can kill them all but its shit time xD

[spiral rose]

i put seal in belinda, hurts soul hound a lot but kills... can try other options if you have anasta

[cedar forge]

i do have anasta

already in with belinda

[spiral rose]

some ppl were using her - is your ivan 303e3x at least?

[earnest kiln]

saf sp right

[cedar forge]

yup

[cursive epoch]

soul hound is saf sp

[spiral rose]

should be able to kill then

[golden river]

Aezizh was doing better oddly enough I need to test more asaf sp just to make sure it wasn’t some weird rng

[cedar forge]

well no because i still don’t have a full for palmer in that comp now

[golden river]

It should be asaf so tho..

[cedar forge]

i tried estrilda and it baaaarely just worked actually

[spiral rose]

belinda just became super rng without palmer, painful

[earnest kiln]

i need to find a place for wutus

[cedar forge]

fuuuuk man this is slow

ig it’s all relative cuz i’m still at 14% with 6m32s

[west turret]

#nightmare-corridor message if you wanna try this mess

[spiral rose]

at least you got the kills, now to optimise

[west turret]

imma skip optimize if possible im at 400 gems retries already

[spiral rose]

yeah spending a lot on nc is bad value for sure, unless you just enjoy it

[west turret]

enjoy but balance~

CR is the pain right now

[spiral rose]

i'm waiting for sunday for trial

[west turret]

same or maybe ill just skip this CR round and do it next week

[golden river]

Awlyca does so much dmg in r3

[west turret]

yeah a scary amount

[slow dust]

Ty
Don't think I can fix this up much more

[spiral rose]

nnoitorra couldn't make it work

the r3 dmg, so idk if I can

[surreal plinth]

I assume it needs lib

Or built queen and twins

[golden river]

Did you use awlyca SP for puppet?

[slow dust]

Yes, I tried both hers was faster

[golden river]

[slow dust]

Wish I had wolise...

[river palm]

luci havers

[golden river]

[slow dust]

Mines small lol

[rough eagle]

Wowie

[slow dust]

I want to e30 but have a long list of those

[slow dust]

Very NC of you

[rough eagle]

What is nc

[slow dust]

What this channel is for

[river palm]

north carolina

[rough eagle]

Oh wrong channel

[slow dust]

[burnt jetty]

how you lvl is 480

[slow dust]

[honest timber]

sub 5 soon

[steady fjord]

I was sub 4 before Puppet released, over 5min now

[slow dust]

I got it too 5.34

[steady fjord]

This week's buff only saves me 5s

[thick nova]

I use r1 buff to save 15s in r3

[little skiff]

Same here

[honest timber]

34s, i believe you

[slow dust]

[honest timber]

don't give up

[slow dust]

R6 is hard to get good time and r5 will go easier soon bc olg is halfway done

[honest timber]

new strat releasing soon

[slow dust]

Sweet

[honest timber]

have you tried luci r3?

[slow dust]

I have not

She is smol tho

[honest timber]

[honest timber]

500 dia reset yet?

[slow dust]

Nope

[honest timber]

i want you to try smth but

[slow dust]

Sure

[honest timber]

nvm

[slow dust]

I have 2 tries left

Btw

[honest timber]

[slow dust]

So I can test idm

[honest timber]

i'll gather more ideas first before hitting

[slow dust]

Alr I'll dm / @ you last day and see if you have anything I can try

[honest timber]

[median copper]

I got a 4K finally

[silent aurora]

@median copper hows alyca so far

[median copper]

for NC or what specifically?

[silent aurora]

general

[median copper]

hmm, got my power capped in tower, doing way better than my swolise, doesnt do too hot for me in campaign, dies too quickly and the delayed start messes up the front line causing everythign to die too quickly

Obviously getes a kill in NC, and idk bout CR damage cuz i havent properly set my teams

maybe i cant build the teams right but i struggling to use her to push in campaing, edit: she works well with rem

[silent aurora]

cool

[thick nova]

I merced a bigger Libby (tnx potato), used e+ talene, made a few adjustments and cut another 30s from my total time.

[west turret]

Hmm so maybe the e talene might be possible if deer 12+

I tried a similar set up but deer 9 and it failed

Unless Rosa 3f also matters

How close was your r6?

[thick nova]

Rosa stats transfer to talene, so everything there matters. One of the adjustments I made was take Rosa from e2x to e3x, so my R6 time with e+ talene also improved from early tests

[west turret]

Ah 3x

[maiden plover]

R5 is soul-sucking

[lyric night]

imagine R4

[swift zephyr]

Are there any alt DPS that can clear the last two besides Liberta and Talene? I only have them at E and can’t merc a built Liberta.

So far I can clear 6 only if I take Palmer away from 2 but then I come short of clearing that round.

[remote badger]

olgath merc

[spiral rose]

a built swolise can kill r6 with E talene, but it needs palmer yeah. I put seal r2 to help belinda, it slows down hound a ton but gets a consistent kill

r5 is hypercursed without a stacked bert and a lot of supports

[surreal plinth]

You can sub palmer with Rosa

[spiral rose]

with the swolise comp too?

[surreal plinth]

Yes

[spiral rose]

oh ok I thought it was weaker so would need palmer, good to hear

[spiral rose]

good news for swolise enjoyers

[surreal plinth]

[remote badger]

imagine not building wolise when she was debatably the best woke lel

[brazen onyx]

is it possible for me to kill 3 bosses with this I got no idea how bosses in nc work

also i have lv9 talismane owl fox and seal

daemia abaden merc

[west turret]

Not e works with Palmer and smol Rosa. Juiced Rosa can move Palmer back to Abel

[spiral rose]

Oh that's good news too, might free up Merc... but without the juiced Rosa I don't think my Belinda can kill without Rosa and palmer

This rotation is so bleak, puppet is really fucked up

[candid mango]

Merc tal and trial awlyca

[west turret]

Dammit 8.2% pls give me 10%

[thick nova]

There's some strange ss here

[west turret]

Probably went in the order of latest to oldest

[thick nova]

Theres more. The last one is r1 with different total time

And there's no hound clear

[west turret]

Oh your right wdf

[steady fjord]

Best strat is to replace Hound with beating R1 twice

[thick nova]

Can I just beat r1 6 times and have a sub-3min total time?

[steady fjord]

[abstract scroll]

Thx

[surreal plinth]

Not sure if it matters but owl 18 had slightly higher peak at 1:15 but its still super rng

[formal totem]

I copied ur r6 nn

[surreal plinth]

You dont have a bert copy right?

[formal totem]

I do have

[dapper hemlock]

I can't manage to clear r5 it's a pain

[steady fjord]

At least it frees up Palmer

[silent aurora]

is talene worth 309 i have her at 303

[surreal plinth]

I wonder if it would be better to merc a big fat luci and try with e bert

[dapper hemlock]

what's your r5

[formal totem]

Lemme try it thanks

[abstract scroll]

Reeeeeee

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Hi Veri

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I need my lyca merc NOW

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I forgot to remerc AwLyca but this works ok anyway ig

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Hello heart

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I stole dragon's

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Should have told me earlier. I gave her to some random

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I want a fat one. And Hyde has been offline for a day

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if anasta is here who is your 5th hero on abel round ?

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@sleek grove

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Pure abuse

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gib luci

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Shes probably not big enough

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I had to shuffle around everything to get my 6 kill time down, it's really weird and I'm sure it can still be improved

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much worse

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Luci front? Bert always back from what Ive seen

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Bert front when using twins to buff him

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But yeah then not sure how to help. Youll need either another big fat burst or some really strong anti heal

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did you reserve her

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Did they change something about the puppet fight? I just went 10 fights in a row without beating it when it was like 1/4 wins before

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One of my better kills with smol Libby

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when is "before"? last week it had the faction bonus

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No just funny that you are mercing from akka lol

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I did a bunch of attempts on the first day of this round and with the team I ended up on I would win about 1/4 times on puppet

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I've seen that happen to me too, when I was using ira. I think it's just bad RNG

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I just went 1/15

yeah that sucks

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guess you got good rng then bad rng

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/716766135596613634/1127351862971084923/822419964484780032.gif

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@formal totem if all else fails you can pop wyca trial this week. First cr screens for next cycle are out and she isnt used yet

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WHAT ELSE DO I NEED

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lucilla?

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Not a single copy

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What about some antiheal?

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I will save

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it is absurd that this boss takes so fkn much to kill

what was lilith smoking

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I believe wyca will be used, if not dune then brute

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LIKE WHAT? TORNE??

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You are spice tricking spooder right? Would probably clear with that

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Spider 9 not killing

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Heal block, most likely

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Mortas was used for puppet early on iirc

Otherwise Anasta

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I'm still using mortas, since I'm mercing Libby and can't afford luci

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What a shitty game.

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Either block the heals or burst through it with olgath

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A new account that whaled new twins can do better than a 3yo acc with shitty lucky

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My best kill

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M30 mortas?

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Old stuff, dw

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But 5 boss > 4 boss

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It used to be recommended ages ago, pre-vei

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Oh btw if you are using rosa positioning matters. You want 1lene backline then

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1lene front for lion lv9 skill

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Neva is also usable there, maybe better than tam

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thanks, i'll try nev tmr

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Well yeah, that's how big the difference from whaling is

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Even with lion Im running her back cause it doesnt clear when shes front

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It doesnt clear when shes back for me

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I don't think Lion 9 affects Tal anyway
Isn't Lion 9 for ult dmg and Tal ult doesn't deal any dmg (with the dmg on Martyr coming from the healing that isn't affected by Lion)

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Yes cause the rest of your team sucks

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I dont know how to explain

If I put her front and sol backline its a kill

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I think she really needs both attack an heal buffs

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Thats weird

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Is your Lorsan dying or smth

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Nope hes still alive

Timed out

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Right I had lorsan back and that didnt kill

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Because pos1 should be lorsan

why do you want 1lene to be jailed

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It worked with balmer and I dont know what lorsan does

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Using Palmer + AwSol merc, I got like 45s with frontline Tal, 38s with backline

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if light martyr with 4 skills is so difficult then mirror demon might be worse it has 4 skills also

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Yeah bye-bye nc, till next week

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how to kill r5

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daemia

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Oh i am going to ping you

:nice: what rank are you atm

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lemme check, i was 17% earlier

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6kills 7m right