#nightmare-corridor
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@slow dust
Overheating from big Ivan?
It was no Ivan
I think it started happening after leveling sorc tree
It’s probably bonus haste that’s making Abel ult right before dusk activates the walk execute. It doesn’t happen with Ivan in for raine tho 
4m27s time, kinda worse than expected for trial but that's with L AwSol and no Spooder 
send comps pls 
Merc is Mae
R3 is pretty scuffed

How consistent is r4?
Dogshit 
Ranges from 37s to 50s
I don't have AwAtha to let me move Dae elsewhere
Good job!!!

whats your time salsa
7min 36s 

I don't understand how you guys go from not being able to get 6 kills to such good 6 kill times 
this round i can get 6 kills without merc
ill merc mae to improve a bit if it changes anything tomorrow
are you running brutus for soul hound?
what no
oh ye you need him r1
it can get a kill like once every 4 tries 
i didn't mean soul, i meant mask
Im an idiot and will get horrible 6 kill times from now on 
my r4 is actually slower with gbs, but i probably didnt use the riight ones
what happened
i did this
he can merc bert and he has asolise
I didnt build bert. So now I have to merc him which means I have slow Daemon and slow r6 
i thought you built eorin for that specifically
so you could free merc for r6 (bert)
I'm 1 furn away from eorin 9f
Like i need to use Eorin in r2 which is slower than whalia there as long as I dont have saurus etc and eorin also really improves the r6 clear time 
doesn't luci helps with dmg? she could be really good aswell
yea, for us khazard-less plebs
ok, this is depressing 
i saw you improved your cr dmg, not having them fucked you 
Yeah if I had them right now Id be hitting 40b aswell lol
you could split asol and rem to have both

Dont think its worth it. I tried that in the beginning and total was still just like 12b and rem super rng in r5
we finally got our cr frame tho, i think
vei makes a big difference 
it was kinda funny
Im 32%. Not sure that will hold 
i looked at u record, saw haelus and i was like "ok haelus = vei, lemme try"
and then "oh x2 more ill take that"
lol
this was my peak dmg

lion 
i tried owl a few times
i don't think it made that big of a difference, and lion with bert front, he dies
bert front is dying?
yea
can i use E dae on nemora 
probably, i think i saw people running dae for nemora
for raine or rosa?
wtf so stacked and same dmg
yea
ok fuck that 
my hand is itching to try owl lion again and try fixing my rng
but i don't really need it 
whats your rank %?
yeah rem owl still 12
yea, you lose arround 600~1b depending on rng i think
are you sure its the same
but these thingies are not dying
why is the dmg not channging then? 
do they have no def or something
or a dmg cap?
its the dmg you take that ends the fight and they do enough to kill rem at 12ish b
actually not
wait wtf
idk then
should i gamble 400 dias? 



so big of a variance, i give up
not even gonna try swapping pets
look at this shit
yea, the 40b run had abel do 4b less than my pb
ok im not touching that
i could get 46b if i blew my dias away and prayed 
did you beat your dmg?
no 
how tf did he do that
he lucky as fuck
that asaf round is consistent witth ok dmg
but i think it needs investment to work

and it probably needs invested oden too
Damn, spooder big for r1 
maybe i can find someone that used L asaf in the tops
it's 300 dias tho, not worth it
Check myu
im just curious
Dont think she has asaf
myu did this r4
nice damage for NC nnoi 
Huh 
we off-topic every channel 
nc cr same shit
Ohh lol I didnt even notice
WTF
Lets bring this in aswell 

pizza can't beat fish fillet
i Gave up
I'm only 4lvls off 107 all branches 
1700 is a wall
no u
true

ok this is not convincing
what rank did 4'30 gave you
Like 20% atm but prob ~30% by check tomorrow
was the buff impactful for you?
@cursive epoch check r34 t49 cr 
Such a useless buff
Both GB and Mauler both usable for R4 but I don't have AwAtha to run the proper comp
i thought so, standard comp was faster than gb buff for me 
Lb/Wilder would've been perfect
what are these people
+30 hodg and Edwin 
s1x is a fucking whale
How many funni +30s do u have
I had si30 Hodg done over 12 months ago 
Edwin was just a meme "I've got 300 reds and no one to use them on so might as well during ship" but it was def a waste
Twins lyca mortas orthros 
I get the twins, but the others... 
this buff was bad 
i couldn't find my hodgkin times but it loses me time on fire daemon
4yrs of passive income is a lot of random si30s
Lyca is a 30 acc increase which is underwhelming, orthros sounds too expensive with all the other priorities 
But yeah I get it these weren't done recently 
I don't have any si30 prios atm anyway
Next is like Lib SI30 (obvs high prio) but I don't actually have him
I would've had twins si30 done like, before Ainz even released maybe 
are you close?
I haven't really started Lib because I'm very far from A1 anyway
what did you use 
I still have 6 +30s I want
I don't think there's any SI30s I care about for units I own 
you probably have always enough then for new units when you build them
I've got 69 SI30s total, just checked
wtf 
damn
Yeah I had just enough to SI30 Ivan as he came out and then SI30 Naroko when she came out.
4yrs is a pretty long time and in the past before engrave/beasts I'd be taking reds from a lot of events
Ivan is 30336, Naroko just M30 (waiting for HCP to reset on Thurs to get her A)
is ivan is haste?
Mine is yeah
is it worth it? 
For sure at least e36, but his other IS node and atk node are also good
Idk what I want to use cores on next ngl 
lib!
I won't have Lib A1 until like October 
I had to e30 mulan to copy celowz campaign clears even though I wanted to engrave ivan 
did you get past that thoran stage?
no lol
mae is someonewhere else, I was trying lucretia + mercs idk, doing cr now
nope 
i just used all free tries
abel with ivan is insane tho
whats your cr region, salsa?
do you have ivan nodes?
¯_(ツ)_/¯

i wanna see your hits 
i feel like they make a big difference then, cause my ivan insta dies before casting
gonna do e36 
i did atk and double haste
after I swap back over I'll let you know
ok!
33
ty 
your setup with mishka e60 seems really good 
i ran albedo there instead but got seal carried
I dont remember what I did on salsa at all ngl
two accounts must be confusing
a little but its fine
do you enjoy playing on the older one?
yeah doing big damage in cr is fun, also I don't have to push campaign so 

And I'm gonna set it up to do comp hf which salsa wouldnt be able to do
@honest timber this is my current setup
Bad luck on Whane and scarlet round
Peak is 32s Whane and 33s scarlet
Just got 4m20.08s 

who u merc james
Asaf
awsaf?
Yeah, I’m not sure what’s best
ic
merc a big trish
Ogey I try
How much fucking health does puppet have
Like 10b ish if you prevent all healing
Oh there's healing
I don't read. Also don't have spider so this is gonna suck
NVM I kill it
Now just have to kill r5....
I have lucberta trial now so i will have to try this nc i guess
Is 4 man demon puppet a lucy bert thing?
Literally nothing lol
if that's real i can actually make that
Silas rem still not enough even with e61 rem
oh spooder 9 lol
do you have twins?

Slowest 6 kill in the history of 6 kills but at least it's my first time getting it
I miss the beast event where we got 700 baits
Spider should be a new species, Lilith robbed us
Me trying to get a 3 kill
8 min is fine, you still get ahead of every 5 kills
@cursive epoch sir when did you build saf 
wtf the last boss has 20b health
that heal so annoying
remember when i said i whaled and regretted it

Oh yeah
u gave into ur inner dragon
I can't find a good cr r4 without
i improved my time a bit
you have hae 
how important is that seal for r5
it'll be 2024 before i get 9f
oh u didnt run moth on r2?
i tried both moth and lion
but i can't try them out more cause my retries aer 400 dias now
not enough testing to know which one is better with this comp

ill try on mine, i didnt use lion at all
lion 12 vs moth 9, 3-5 sec faster with lion
hmm i think eorin on r2 would be better than lyca
even my uninvested eorin did better but idk how it affects mulan
I used eorin, it's slow but it works
hmm maybe it was the mulan invest diff for me then
i don't know what i could possibly do for any of the other 3, but rem is sitting unused so it seems like i should have a chance
I wish we could get 2 mercs in this mode lol
yea, between 53 and 59s
guess i'll wait for mulan to see if i can get sub 50 like ya 😄
mulan 
and more than 10 tries
is duskwailer the easiest boss out of the ones i didn't kill
(her + last two)
from 3 three you didn't, yes, but you can't do nemora if you do abel for dusk
i might be able to rem nemora
also did you forget to put pets?
ah still kinda early, yeah just try to get 1~3 kills it takes awhile to get full 6 kills
i'm trying to get 4 kills
i did 3 already lol
but you can't even get ranked without 4 kills
They rlly took out 3 easy bosses and put in 3 rlly hard ones lol
Rip anyone just coming to the mode now
Also rip me when trials end
imagine when the next one comes in 3 weeks
Rip mae
mae for puppet
Maeby
oh wdf my 9f celow's r6 actually worked fo rm without si30 ana
how much did it improve
uh i dont think it improved but it can free up vei
but i think some small other adjustments got my time down a lot
do vei r4 with 2 gbs?
lemme take a SS and compare it to the one i posted in nihi
lol gl
what would the vei r4 with2 gb look like?
i pulled off 3kill without a merc, so with a merc surely i can get duskwailer
don't question that r4 setup LMAO
no lyca hodge for r2?
show gb box 
merc a mae and do abel for dusk
how smol
ugh i hate changing mercs tbh
si 0, 4f
i have daemia asol and abaden rn
thats fine
mine is 1f
i would try moving dae either to r4 or r6 with 2 gbs + vei
backline for mask
or testing vei r5 fist to see how better it is
what would i replace in r5 for vei?
it's either twins or emi, but i have no clue, let me see
i don't have mortas or tam so i don't think merc mae would beat nemora for me
Not even 1 mortas ?
prob can still kill tho
Numisu and whatever hypo you have prob
try vei instead of estrilda first
Won't be a fast kill but it'd kill I bet
would this really work
the thing is changing mercs is sad because of how returning works
1-2 s faster with vei
for one i dont even know if i can kill duskwailer w abel
do numisu kren skriath and another 1 + mae

whats your gb box like?
that ss is my entire box lol
can you si20 edwin?
No Ivan +30 might make dusk hard, need raine
not yet sadly, im working on ana si10->30
That mask guy not gonna work without raine for me
wanna test daimon vei hodge? 
and daemia instead of LDV
you can try grez and abaden swap aswell
wait so im taking hodge out of r2?
testing?
isn't this your r2?
@dapper hemlock timing?
oh it was til u told me to try lyca hodg
yea, i think it's worth taking hodge fom there then, cause daemia in dusk will save you lots fo time
ah fuck what the hell is my daimon fused with
joa
Daimon dim link 🤝
if i can get Abelinda built then ill be good
i can remove daimon now cuz i have some new 1*s i havent used
my daimon is linked to mulan 
how do you guys actually manage to make soul hound buff go to 0
Idk if I do, I just put aezizh and emi
aezizh can get it down to 1 but he just keeps regen
i have no clue how it works, i just use stuff that worked for people and don't touch it
I never watch replays
you need your team to not get tp'd
if it keeps refreshing your melee are fucking you over
i'm trying to use rem for soul hound with a merc daemia
Ok it does go to 0 with aezizh and emi
can you post your whole team
worked but time went from 1 min -> 1m 24s xD
the dusk time went from 1m 4s to 49s
dae is crazy on dusk
grez made it 1m 14s
can you still try edwin?
edwin swap who
yep, 1m 8.6s now
did you improve you overall time?
yeah just slightly 6m 22s -> 6m 20s

i got a silas sitting around i might remove ana and put silas in
silas is good for both mae and puppet i think
silas didnt help my r1 time
it helped me around 6~8s for r1
i used to get consistently 1:02 or 1:03
with silas it went down to 55
57*
orthos, rowan, mort, uninvested tam, mae = 53s
Get one in challenger for the remaining 2 weeks lmao

lemme grab new SSs
i bought zol already, not enough coins 
i really wanna try dae r3 now, but can't justify 400 dias 
woo
your experimenting with my box 
yea, helping you helps future me
you have more to work with tho 
i don't have vei and baden
let me show you one test
rn it's pretty bad, only did like 10 tries but I kill R6 like once every 3 tries
And you ?
Idr if I asked you or not but did m mortas help a lot?
I need just 3 copies for M or I can start on zol
That one quest to kill 4 bosses in 240 seconds is crazy
i havent tried that because I think dusk needed all the supports for abel
but with dae maybe? lemme give it a shot
i use it eveywhere but i had mortas for a while so i'm not sure the improvement over E, never used it E
Also tfw i can kill soul hound but not duskwailer
maybe his 3f can keep him meta forever
oh wait jk i shouldnt try it, ur ivan+rosa more invested
have you tried swapping luc for anything?
Do you need raine for mask curator? With Raine it might kill
I don't even have any heroes left to try duskwailer
yeah lyca and raine is available now
maybe raine r6 frees silas
I got the 4 kill if you saw
4.36s I wanna do better 
But i have absolutely no one that could possibly carry another round
so test r6 raine, move silas to r2?
and silas + lyca for r2
o interesting
you sent your comps somewhere already ?
or raine + lyca
so lyca+silas r2 = 58->1m, r6 went from 1m 21s -> 1m 23s

lyca+raine: r2 is 57, and silas back to r6 is 1 22 again
i think the biggest changes would have to be soul and puppet x.x
the 1:20 gang
yeah dae makes a big change
that e0 emi tho
@cursive epoch 6:06 moving dae to hound and asaf to r3
Nop
It's somehow 20% lmao
so the killing soul hound quest appears tmr right
asaf sp?
that's huge
First try I had 5 kill and I was legend 50%
nah just abel sp ill try asaf sp now
so the killing soul hound quest appears tmr right
abel Sp is better, unless i need to move asaf to p4 and use SP there?
feels like i'm being ignored
6 months old vs years
yea it says it ingame
k
it's 2 days tho
U don't have both trials right?
nope I only have luci left, but I have hythlo's bert as merc
if you mean r6 yeah it is hard without spooder
try rem daemia palmer raine twins
@cursive epoch holy the next changes made the times sooo drastic LOL 6:06 best at worst 6:42
im on the 300s
So r6 is killable 
i improved my time by a lot, let me take screenshots
NC only having 10 tried is ridiculous anyway
hold on let me SS my 6:06 as a basis
wtf, my r6 was really fast for no reason
actually ill SS the 6:06 and 6:10 cuz those were slight changes
i'm gonna take 2 ss aswell, cause i got a 541 with fast r6 and 544 with slow r6
and that fast r6 must've been a miracle
this is the outlier one
i got r5 as low as 58s fo some reason
Left side right side
right side no Asaf, i used estri instead
i think the 6:06 somehow managed to time save every each just barely enough to do better lol
@west turret
damn now i kinda wanna beat alice, 3 seconds away


I'll just copy your teams when you do 🫣
i think you can copy mine/improve it
its up there, celowz probably will improve ur time
I'll try it
at this point im just running fun experiments
do aefryn r1 and try vei r6/r4
LOL her r6 is impossible for me
do you have drez ascended?
no olg and no drez
drez seems good r2 but he just dies, mine is E
is there a r6 kill without new heroes?
My R6 is over-invested because of no Spider
I do, it just didn't show that time
ah
Lion is on R3
is owl better than lion r6?
I haven't tested that yet, I'll try it now
I wish I could pop it 
pop pop pop pop
Owl is significantly better on R6
do you have crassio built, alice?
what about E orthros?
Nope 🥹

you could try a pleb r1 like mine with silas/numisu
and vei for palmer r6 with palme r3 fo abel
It's level 7 🫣

Where reso 9 
alice might be spice tricking everything
I am 🫣
Spice trick reso 9 for reso 18 
yea, the ggk special
you can also try moving abaden to r5 and asaf to r1
Nice
nah u saw me trying to optimized and join in
im done for this week I think think i can optimze any further it's all RNG
My R5 and R4 stopped winning when I tried this
with ivan for abaden?
how tf would someone already have reso 9 in s1056
how much did vei save for r6?
money
i beat alice OLD comp by .07 seconds lmao
mission completed 🫡
now is 🫣
now i wanna blow more dias with CR 
you can improve yours i think
i got 3 challenges left in CR
On 1056 I think you don't have to spend money to have it or be close. On 1040 I've had reso 9 for like 2 months and barely spent on bait before recently
see my hit

To have reso 9 and lvl 18 pets tho, thats $$$
i hit 41b, you can do better than that i'm sure
I'm s1046 and i only have one lv9 pet lol...
wtf 41b?
yea
F2p difference i guess

Didn't focus bait at all?
max is probably around 46b with good rng
I've been taking bait since the beginning
My spending has given me maybe like 8-10 extra copies and I have reso 9, seal 15 and lion 11
Tho doing better in Ts = more bait too
New team, VERY RNG the range is wide. Dusk, mask, and puppet can fail
do you get top 100 in ts
in nihi or search in #cursed-realm ?
i didn't post it, i can do it if you prefer, it's easier for you to see
let me take screenshots
tyty
Go shame dragon for hitting the same amount as me
Tho he doesn't have trials cause he a dummy
@slow dust shame
You spend as much as dragon then you are not f2p lmao
I didnt pop my luci trial yet
I don't spend even close to as much as dragon
I'm not even vip 11 and he's almost 14
You got 25%?
Oh did you hit again? Rip
Oh we talking cr
Last I checked we both hit 25b
Copy celowz
but without trial it's harder , cele kid did a lot
Oh you build it and don't even use it wtf
Worth 1 card 
oh the suspense what is alice new NC
No Mae soy R2 dmg is not there 
or vei + silas
Damn your Belinda did so much more than mine
the ana and hae is my biggest difference hmm
I'm still lacking 9f tho
thats peak, she usually hits 3b
Ah okay that's about the same then
that's double and happened once only 
Wtf my Abel peaked 4
do you have khazard?
si20
@cursive epoch R6 couldn't kill without Palmer, had to put him back in.
T1 is 10s faster
T2 same speed
T3 same speed (without ivan)
T4 High chance of losing, put everything strong in, worked as good as what I had before, but probably can optimize
T5 Is also complete luck like T4, 5s faster when it wins but fails half the time
T6 Also luck 🥹
no trials anymore? 
i think it needs si30 so, for r2 do mishka instead of albedo, and albedo instead of athalia for r5, and vei instead of anasta for r4
Forgot to mention this, but I fixed R3 damage with your team by engraving Ivan.
E0 ivan best run, vs E44 ivan best run ( but E44 consistently hits over 6m for me unless unlucky)
I used them on day one 🫣

Damn that's a big increase
Ivan hasn't come home yet from the milk run

yea, i think alice's abel round works best for youcause you have cruke
no spooder/blade is frying my brain 
For future reference its always best to pop trials on sunday so you can get 2 cr/nc cycles out of them
Yeah I just popped my Luci. She helped hypo tower pcap, did a couple seconds in nc r6 but nothing for cr
Fried my brain as well, I'll probably have both in the next three weeks anyway, I guess no point optimizing before then 
this got me 35m, with the cruke version got me down to 30m
#nightmare-corridor message does this help you in any way?
lemme go see what I posted in nihi and compare
Also since you are in nihi. If you keep an eye on guild-announcements, jhawk usually posts when its best to pop the trials. Like when they dont have impact for cr/nc it might be worth saving them for the week after
Any EASY F2P comprehensive comp for current nightmare-corridor?
Search this channel for has:image and then adjust to your box
k
It helps my other teams, but I'm still struggling on R5 even while running the exact same team with a stronger seal
yea, those clears have big tree
Ah that makes more sense
I found a guide but thank you.
why did this channel become cr channel
Same ppl hitting both at the same time together
i wanna see a challenge setup where you have to do nc and cr with the exact same load out

goal is to minimize sum of %s
I'll be able to get twins from store this month if only I can somehow do a 4 man kill of puppet
I have only seen the ones that use spooder 9
dont buy twins
Should I buy twins tho? 
maybe
should i buy twins?
Bait is life
Twins?

you did it
yes 
What’re they at now for you
L 😦
L 
M is a pretty good spot for them
not sure if I need ascended yet
I just got mortas to l
no zol? 
zol can come later

sleep on it
Stop pushing 
@abstract scroll got 4:35min !
Don’t think I’ll get anything better than that
4:35 without trial? That's pretty good 
Luci trial 
Bert merc, Mae/Abel/wolise woke
Your R5 is Rem + Vei?
Ig you can afford Lib merc more than I can because Mae saves more time R1 than AwThane saves R2 
Rem vei ezizh emi Haelus
Ah yeah that comp, gets like 55s ish yeah?
Do you have Spooder for R6?
How good's your R6? (Curious about the diff to my L AwSol)
I’m only 5 copies away from reso 12, and have 3 spice saved
R6 not using solise, she’s in R2 with eorin
I’m running Bert Luci dae Estrilda twins R6
50s on my overall best score
Not bad for no Dae ig
Got 47s on R6 on my best run 
Owl or Lion R6?
Owl
Oh it's Dae instead of Palmer hmmm
I didn't try leaving Palmer on R3 but moving Owl to R6
My R4 kinda died without Dae, but my R3 sucks without Palmer anyway 
Puppet has too many swaps 
I had a fast R6 last week with Lib merc (like 43s) but it totally murdered all my other rounds
Not really a viable team because it ruins other rounds too much anyway
these times go better with each rng but im not gonna spend diamonds on nc so if it helps anyone. at 3m50s



4m10 if it can help anyone
How is that R5 only 1m13 
Wdym it’s perfect 
Would've expected like 40-45s but ig tiny Might tree 
No antandra 309e30?
My tree HUGE
Antandra 000 
Could've subbed olgath and get same timing and merc saf for r5 
"Why is my R5 so much better than a better comp? My Might tree is only 9x higher
"
can u show ur teams for nc and cr for me 
I think I posted mine somewhere 

Oh I haven't SS'd CR yet, I did change my lineup but haven't got good enough rng to beat my PB yet 
just send me the teams 
also waden ruining me i need abel merc 
thanks for the teams tho 
I'm ssing them rn smh 
ss harder 
or faster 
cant kill it with L waden 
Trial you mean 
yes yes
But cr nc sir 
ik
Expires in 2 days anyways
ik ik
Use trial for this week and tomorrow
was the plan sort of
ehh i would say average f2p acc
gimme a sec
Also got like thousands of chests idk what to do with
And yes i am pausing my Daemia to get Liberta A
Had to get the duo
Frfr
You are? 
Not sure I would do that
why ?
i mean yea
prob not worth it
maybe i reconsider
Idk tbh I don’t know much about Bert, but as of now I’d say dae is op and safe to build while Bert seems op but unsure
Personally I think I would stick with dae
Bert is Meta alr
with being used everywhere
but idk really
only 65k diamonds and 10 gazers
ressources are low
Yeah its true he seems op
maybe finishing her first
I haven’t really thought about it I’m just thinking him and dae are probably as strong but dae is the fastest bet
You could ask some nerd
but still 8 copies needed
@kind oriole
Ah 8 copies 
Idk then lol
If you are f2p I would finish dae I think
And give her 309e41
man idk what to do with all those engraving mats
12k red cores 18 eternal shards
like

whale i know
Then e67 dae + e66 Ivan + e6x bert when he’s A1 
arent there other prios for me ?
Huuh lemmilook
nodes ?
Also ig you can’t really contest in pvp
you mean notes ?
No lol nodes 
IDK what you mean
Minor or Major nodes for extra stats
Ranks sir ? 
still dont know what you mean with that
Trash sir 
I mean do you have Palmer e44 twins e33 rem e41 Emi e41 Oden e44 etc
no nothing
didnt knew who to engrave
How trash exactly 
I got my best ever
19% cr 2.7% nc 
Ah i see, then yeah you can engrave some nodes on core heroes like Palmer rem emi Oden etc, ask in question what nodes they need cause I don’t remember 
btw send your ign again need to add you inGame to steal your formations
then better remember

Sure lemmi make you a spot
Search tonboul you’ll find me
alr
You can ask
imagin
like you could gimme the details
or ill check with AFKkit
Palmer nodes are big. Dae can also stay at e30 if you want to save the cores
Tell me more
Which Heros are also worth it
ok if he remembers
Also you mean him?
Ah yes
Well essentially you engrave heroes either for their skill they unlock at e30/60 or for extra stats, like kren e30 is a good skill for him and that’s why you engrave him, or Abel e60s skill literally does nothing so if you give Abel e60 it’s only to increase ATK and mp stats so you give her e67. Dae has a good e30 skill so it’s fine to Leave her there and Palmer benefits from the stats a lot cause he’s spells are ATK rating based
Having e60 Abel is a waste of engraving mats
Either e44 or e67
looks cool
Ok I’ll give you that 
also she an Awakened she has to be e60
If you do abel e60 you have to go e67
prob
In what
?
Cele buff is perfect
Idk if you can fit Vei+Twins+Haelus (if you don't have AwAtha)
Is aezizh needed in there? 
Maybe not if the buff is strong enough
AwAtha prob won't need him at least
I was thinking rem saf hae vei twins 
what would you do as vei sub? 
Moreal 
AwSaf 
nono, for 3 cele like rem asaf hae X twins 
morael is something s1x would have not me cause he 
I meant to reply to Veri mentioning AwSaf initially
oh
Smh pointing out that I'm an idiot that did waste SGs on Morael 
wait, do you actually have her? 
I had Morael built like early last year ish

if L solise is enough i can do athalia with thane merc, not sure if athalai good, or E morael
but that backline for sure dies
At the time, Morael was used in most CR and Zaph was still pvp meta (until Audrae took that slot) 
Go get her u have enough tg 
s1x is a hoarder 
300 TE isn't even enough for M 
I finished Abel in 310 
VeriLucky
My craziest luck ever was AwBrutus in like 380


