midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[willow crater]

How long does it take bro

[muted rampart]

cuz i still havent gotten maestro

too me less than a week to go from w1 to w4

[willow crater]

To get that good

[muted rampart]

this character took less than a week

[willow crater]

Holy

[muted rampart]

on my current account

[willow crater]

Should I grind all night then

[muted rampart]

there are people that can reach w6 in less than 2 weeks

nah

[willow crater]

Why

[muted rampart]

active is only really worth it after getting a dk

[willow crater]

Whats a dk

[muted rampart]

divine knight

[willow crater]

?

[muted rampart]

squire evolution

[willow crater]

Ohh I picked barbarian

[muted rampart]

probably the best active class

[willow crater]

Am I cooked

[muted rampart]

besides a maxed bubo

ive only heard stories about a maxed bubo

[willow crater]

Whats bubu

[muted rampart]

but from what ive heard he can keep the cranium effect from his passive permanent active

its the evolution of shaman

[willow crater]

Whats shaman

[muted rampart]

evolution of mage focused on alchemy

the cranium effect basically progress alchemy

by killing enemies

[willow crater]

I'm like a 3 year old when there mom is having a bad day rn

Asking so much question

[dusk prism]

i feel like im mid w3, is there anyway you could quick check my account and give me 1-2 advices what i should/could do?

[muted rampart]

im not the greatest at that but sure

[willow crater]

Go to tips-n-tricks tha should help

[muted rampart]

there also the !help command

which show a bunch of tips and guides

[candid scarab]

🚫 the_romator_91182, that command is disabled in this channel.

[muted rampart]

use it on #bot-commands

[willow crater]

Aww man

[dusk prism]

yeah i already read a lot and watched a lot of videos, but i thought something personal would be nice :D but ye u are right im gonna check them out

[muted rampart]

in my opinion pre w4 your biggest priority is just rushing to w4

cuz the more far you are in the game the easiest the earlier worlds are

[willow crater]

Welp firelord wanna add me in idleon

[muted rampart]

w4 you unlock the elite classes which are probably the biggest instant buff in the game

[muted rampart]

sure

[willow crater]

Ok

So what sever so I can add u

[muted rampart]

ill go to w1 dice 11

[willow crater]

Ok

Whats ur user

@muted rampart

[muted rampart]

firelordofthe

[willow crater]

Ok

Ill go and join

[muted rampart]

btw highly recommend getting a shaman

probably the most important class

[dusk prism]

and only upgrade first 2 bubbles right?

[willow crater]

Kk I added u

[muted rampart]

nah focus on most bubbles that you need

so lets say you need damage

get the ones that the more hp/mana/speed you have the more damage you deal per example

or if you need defense there a bubble on the orange cauldron

accuracy there one on the green one

etc etc

[dusk prism]

ahh kk

[willow crater]

Bye firelord I'mma go grind

[muted rampart]

probably the most important skill in the game

[muted rampart]

bye

[willow crater]

Have a good one

[muted rampart]

the stories ive heard about people that maxed their bubos are insane things

they can progress days worth of alchemy in minutes

like stuff on that level

but that like w7 kind of stuff

[dusk prism]

i see :D but also like the stuff with

wait

[muted rampart]

?

[dusk prism]

when should i focus on those stats

[muted rampart]

hmmm id say nothing

except if you have excess on the cauldron

but if you do

id say get speed and luck

2x also good

[dusk prism]

ok ok ty for all the help

[muted rampart]

id say these 4 bubbles are also really good to lvl up if you can

really good highly recommend

you should level up all bubbles but these 4 in specific are ultra good

[dusk prism]

u seem to be like an walking wiki

its insane

[muted rampart]

nah its just the average knowledge most idleon players have

we minmax we learn efficiency

and most importantly we learn the difference between multiplicative and addictive

[turbid stag]

Is this your Alt?

[dusk prism]

anyone knows which bug catching level u need for Mosquisnow?

[candid creek]

Hi Keilen

[candid creek]

Use the wiki and afk menu

[dusk prism]

afk menu?

[turbid stag]

Hi hi

[muted rampart]

i had a old acc but it was so long ago that i just recently decided to create a new one

[candid creek]

After about 10 years

[muted rampart]

gg

[candid creek]

What gg

This isn't a "good game" moment

This is a "well done for subjecting yourself to torture" moment

[muted rampart]

that why you deserve a gg

[candid creek]

That's not a good game tho

[muted rampart]

you are a good gamer for torturing yourself

like that

good job

[candid creek]

Thank you for this

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-cat-huh-small-cat-huh-what-gif-2593177363967991691

[muted rampart]

oh well im going to sleep now so erm bye

https://tenor.com/view/falling-out-of-bed-short-people-memes-short-people-problems-gif-26144388

[candid creek]

L

[woeful karma]

arcade rotation when

[stark atlas]

guys does nyone know how to get the giant neyeptune for the quest ive been in w4 for a while now but i would like to be able to get a bit more unlock

[woeful karma]

also congrats on getting through one of the hells of idleon :D

[stark atlas]

i cant figure out where to worship

[woeful karma]

Ned the prayer active

[stark atlas]

ye i cant figure out where to get the prayer

[woeful karma]

bottom right? or left
of w3 town

whichever side is the side with the smithy

[stark atlas]

no like unlock the prayer

[woeful karma]

one of the first few TDs idr which

wiki tells you which wave/totem gives/unlocks what prayer

the one your looking for is tachyon of the titans iirc

[stark atlas]

wait rly??

tysm

[woeful karma]

yeah lmao

IT also tells you iirc

it should be under the worship section for btht he wiki and IT

[daring nova]

My accuracy id above 100 percent but no overkill why is that

[dense pine]

damage

your max hit needs to be at least 2x the mobs health

[arctic yarrow]

alright. almost time for day 56

will i get the nametag

[tulip lava]

What happen if i teleport while trying to do the Wind Hunter quest?
Can i try to reaptempt it later? the spot of the elk will change?

[stark atlas]

i have no idea lol - it might be on the wiki tho it has a lot of stuffs

in any case good luck with the quest u got this

[sleek pollen]

dunno but I guessed you can't tp so I didn't try
you can retry later yes, the deer does change spot I reckon

[red relic]

i'm up there too

[sleek pollen]

I'm only at 30 because keep forgetting to use it

[arctic yarrow]

the answer is no

[red relic]

I think i am at 53 or something now

only another week for the pity

[arctic yarrow]

my pity is 70

thats 2 weeks

[red relic]

I can't wait to find out that the pity reset when i bumped up to 5% on tome

[native jetty]

Can someone please tell me the max % multi for big bubbles like molto logo ? I know it changed but still cant find how much

[sleek pollen]

300 if you have the bubble only
600 if you have 3rd green bonus fron conjuror in da hole (+300% multi-chance)

[native jetty]

Thanks alot!

[night oracle]

But in the end 600% is the max amount of multilog you can get

Max effective*

[native jetty]

Yeah i know now thanks! i already had the bonus just couldnt remember for the life of me where it was from and how much it got to 🤣i tought with w7 maybe it got even higher than 600 but fair enough

[faint crystal]

where is the fcking updateeee

[vivid rivet]

When number shall reach 10

[faint crystal]

what number

[vivid rivet]

look at #💖future-content-blog

[faint crystal]

are we deadass going to be waiting for 2 weeks

[loud torrent]

hi, what is this legend multi in the refinery?

[dense pine]

world 7

[vivid rivet]

Yes

[loud torrent]

tyty

[hallow arrow]

does anyone know which bow is technically better?

[muted rampart]

id say hm

the second one?

idk how good speed is when calculating damage

and dps

[hallow arrow]

yea thats my main hang up

i dont want to waste stones either

[muted rampart]

id say weapon power?

cuz most people never really talk about a weapon speed

so probably not that important

[hallow arrow]

yea the faster ww attacks the more ballistas you throw out

im not sure how to do that calculation lol

maybe the answer is just hope for a 70 weapon power lvl 10 speed bow

[hardy cradle]

th am i gonna do with DOOTJAT EYE ???

[nocturne harbor]

Go to sand giants, go to the left side and look for the strange stone with a missing eye, drop the eye

[muted rampart]

also you need 3 players

including yourself

the 3 with 1 of each class type

so 1 archer 1 mage 1 warrior

[hardy cradle]

3 players as a party?

[muted rampart]

to summon king doot mini boss

[hardy cradle]

or in my account?

[muted rampart]

ive heard its not required

its 3 different people

[muted rampart]

no its 3 different players

[nocturne harbor]

Its not when u kill it for the first time since it drops a dootjat phone

[muted rampart]

after you beat king dot once you can kill him solo

[hardy cradle]

oh then do you know the minimum stats required to challenge him?

[muted rampart]

enough to beat him

here his wiki page

[nocturne harbor]

I mean if u can kill efaunt then u can kill doot

[muted rampart]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/King_Doot

[hardy cradle]

fellow tien fan btw?

[muted rampart]

cool tien

[hardy cradle]

hell yea

also can yall give me the guide to secret classes and stuff??

[muted rampart]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Classes

there is a tab bellow mage called secret classes

you can look there too see how to get them and their skills

[hardy cradle]

thank you smm

[muted rampart]

np

[hardy cradle]

currently i have 7 characters i got every subclass but i still struggle in the end of world 3 due to accuracy problems

any tips?

[muted rampart]

alchemy

and also max the secondary stat on tab 1

never put primary stat points before secondary

[hardy cradle]

what should i aim for?

[muted rampart]

shacuraccy

this bubble

[hardy cradle]

i thought i should prioritize my main stat...

[muted rampart]

no you prioritise secondary stat

does not matter how much damage you deal if you cant hit your enemies

get wis on warrior str on archer and agi on mages

[hardy cradle]

ill reset everything

[muted rampart]

there a vault upgrade

i forgot the name that daily you can reset x amount of talents

by holding the talent

[hardy cradle]

yes i already have it

[muted rampart]

just reset your main stat and put those points on secondary

[hardy cradle]

i got bullsey at lv 133 in the vault

[muted rampart]

bullseye kinda weak

stamps are also a good idea

there also this talent on squire

put like 20 points on it if you are pushing and dont have enough accuracy

on him

[hardy cradle]

yea i didnt want to nerf my main damage output

[muted rampart]

let me ask you something

[hardy cradle]

yea for sure

[muted rampart]

remove your weapon in game and hit the last enemy on w3 you can hit

do you still one shot him?

[hardy cradle]

lemme see lemme see

[muted rampart]

if yes damage does not matter

maximazing damage only really good when you get kill note

and are like mid-late game

or above

[hardy cradle]

the death note? i already got it lmaooo

[muted rampart]

but it requires getting at minimum 25k kills on one enemy in a specific world to get effect

at first the effect will be weak so its not worth it anyway until you get enough kills

[hardy cradle]

yes i can one shot it

[muted rampart]

so get more accuracy and focus less on damage

if you cant hit your enemies you cant damage them

[hardy cradle]

yeah ill do that

[prisma fiber]

why i dont get any Cooking Clogs i use candy i see it in the list but dont getting it

[muted rampart]

hmmmm im not sure

maybe a visual glitch?

[prisma fiber]

not sure

[muted rampart]

i dont think its something you should care that much since eventually you will probably get those in minutes

[prisma fiber]

i see in the list but no drop

ok

[muted rampart]

plus i dont think they are that good

[prisma fiber]

ok

[vivid rivet]

Second

[obtuse thistle]

is there a time limit on pet battles? because this feels like itll take a while

[vivid rivet]

Not that i know

[muted rampart]

the limit is when your game crashes

[obtuse thistle]

well then lets hope it doesnt crash before round 200

[muted rampart]

yesterday one dude was complaining his was crashing on round 24

just pray yours dont

[vivid rivet]

Is he playing on a potato didnt know the game avilable there

[muted rampart]

no

from what he told me his pc was decent

compared to his phone

and it still always crashed exactly on wave 24

he didnt know why

[obtuse thistle]

i just got the monolith snail so we'll see how far it goes

[muted rampart]

good luck

[obtuse thistle]

[glacial spindle]

3d printer prints directly into my storage?

[hallow arrow]

Yes

[gleaming token]

is this still the best spice setup with shallow shoals?

[still bramble]

whats the fastest way to get worship xp on a non ES character

i wanna push to 120 on my dk so he can complete godshard set

[runic coral]

farm forest souls on that char

like get hugh td on forest and worship on that char

[balmy crystal]

forest has the worst exp per charge

w4 souls are the best ones for exp

[runic coral]

i know im just bored

[left shuttle]

Bad @runic coral alert

[runic coral]

u ain mew go back to w5 w6 chat

[left shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-turning-into-ash-gif-5170814802321083685

[balmy crystal]

i dont understand why would that be a reason to spread misinfo

[runic coral]

accidently restarted trolling

[bronze sun]

is there a current pet battle and spice gen setup that is accepted meta? I just unlocked Lullaby Airways. but it's gonna take me 100 hours to get my first spice to cook with 🙁

[torpid cedar]

Using borger and forge should solve that

[turbid stag]

-# There is many setups, you can use any other matchup as well.

[torpid cedar]

!guide i think there is a spice guide in here? Not sure tbh never used it

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[bronze sun]

Thanks... that is what I was looking at already, but it stops before the Lullaby spice and I notice that not all of the spices have the same pet setup... so I didn't know if the later spices needed something different. I'll spend some eggs then 😄

when two pets have the same genetic ability, is one better than the other if their number on the bottom is the same?

[mighty bronze]

is this a terrible number of shiny for a 20min trap?

[bronze sun]

also... does a higher number = more spice?

[hallow arrow]

nah the number is the thing that matters the most i think

[hallow arrow]

if youre happy with it then it isnt terrible

[turbid stag]

I just use the same setup for any and all territories

[mint rivet]

in pins is the best one

[tawny ruin]

no its fine

u cant get more than that so gg...

[mint rivet]

you can

[tawny ruin]

does he not hit 100% shiny?

[mint rivet]

i think he hit 100%

[tawny ruin]

so how do u increase it?

[mint rivet]

getting more meritocracy multi, and maxing prayer if you didn't alr

[tawny ruin]

oh

yeah but i dont think thats what he meant

of course more merit multi is gonna increase it

[mint rivet]

no

[unique bolt]

is there a bug i have lab bonus and i have doot?

[twin quest]

and what bug are you referring to here?

[unique bolt]

its normaly purple x6 but now its yellow idk maby x3 or x2

i miss out on a lot of prints and its since yesterday

[twin quest]

I would go check the actual values on toolbox.
The colors can be funky sometimes

so they can't always be trusted

[unique bolt]

so its times 6?

[twin quest]

that's more like x42.5

[unique bolt]

yea but i mean the god and the lab

[strange flare]

It’s showing both bonuses as active

[twin quest]

not exactly sure how it calculates those bonuses.
But it is showing the god and lab bonus active

so you should be good

[unique bolt]

ok thanks guys

[small sun]

to farm w4 boss keys, i want to use es?

[unique bolt]

i used bubo

[twin quest]

generally yea

[strange flare]

Good to farm them while doing for something else, two birds with one stone

[twin quest]

keys dont have to be farmed actively

i usually did it as Link said. afk while doing other shit

[muted rampart]

i just killed the w4 miniboss

and got like 6 keys

[small sun]

i see, yeah gotta farm like 5k rn, so i just drop everyone there?

[muted rampart]

there are 3 ways to get w4 keys

[twin quest]

if you want more drops you can use DK, get your orb numbers up and then kill it

[muted rampart]

colosseum, the enemies drop or mini boss

[muted rampart]

yeah that what i done

[twin quest]

DK miniboss can get you thousands depending on how far you are

[unique bolt]

would not do colosseum world 6 is way better

[small sun]

i did the mini boss today (clearing w4 questline for the trophy), colo kinda short on tickets, but i can throw some for dk runs there

[twin quest]

and why do you need them right now? just curious

[muted rampart]

probably to beat the boss?

idk

[twin quest]

im just wondering what the rush is

[small sun]

im w7, so yeah, the trophy stuff, kinda have to, but thx

[muted rampart]

oh

so just use dk or es on those enemies

[twin quest]

ah you're doing the royal wurm questline

[muted rampart]

and grind them keys

[small sun]

ok seems i will have neough keys for the colo(but not the orb cd, pain)

[twin quest]

you can usually do a handful of them within orb timer. i believe it stays active inside

[small sun]

iot seems like it does

first run 335, 2nd was over 400

[twin quest]

ye that was my experience too

[hallow arrow]

no worries man this happens to me all the time its a visual bug but it wont affect your printer values

[wraith geyser]

Can someone help me summon king doot? im in pizza 9

[patent summit]

how many flurbos are you meant to get if you spent 20 tickets and beat all bosses in W1 party dungeon?

[pseudo flicker]

A lot, much more once you reach gambit in the w5 cavern

[patent summit]

is a lot like 3000 because that's what I got the last 4 times i did one

game or server idk keeps crashing so I'm just softlocked on flurbos for the past month

[sleek dagger]

Hello, Just got all 40 1mil deathnote kills and 12 mill on maestro but only 18 1mil kills have registered, what is up? 😮

[pseudo flicker]

That’s fairly low, should be in the ballpark of 20-50k

[pseudo flicker]

Check in the death note itself in world 3, then try cloud saving?

[sleek dagger]

That worked thanks ❤️

[pseudo flicker]

Pretty much anytime something doesn’t seem quite right, cloud save and log back in

It’ll happen a lot don’t worry

[sleek dagger]

hahah yes makes sense, thanks again! 😄

[honest cradle]

.4 chance to level up one of my slots

I think I will just delete lesser sneak symbols now

[elder quartz]

Whats the drop drit trait?

[faint crystal]

maybe in party dungeons?

[elder quartz]

oh yea it is

[opal pivot]

Hello fellow tenno

[elder quartz]

Been a while since i last played but hello fellow tenno

[honest cradle]

oops a little over 4 hours and 10 minutes

[elder quartz]

just a tiny bit

[wise pike]

For the rift and the pirate flag score, how do I actually raise the pirate flag score?

[honest cradle]

kill plunderous mobs

that increases the timer to drop the coins and drops more than one

[wise pike]

well yeah but idk it was going to like 5 then immediately back to 0 i didnt know if something brought the score back down or something

[honest cradle]

I assume if you're not hitting it you either need better movement or more damage

[wise pike]

of course when I type this I went from 0-100 lol

[lofty parrot]

ive only put a ribbon into peachring, thinking about putting ribbons on some of the other meals. what ribbon level should i put on them?

[honest cradle]

the flag count is how many mob spawns you got saved upp

you mean what meals not ribbon levels?

Or what level ribbon to limit yourself?

[small sun]

what is a good place to farm active crystal using death bringer? w4 trophy quest line (i assume acitve, maybe candy will help too)

[lofty parrot]

well both, what meals to put ribbons on and what lvl should those ribbons be

[honest cradle]

Well the fact you asking tells me 10+ is prob high for you so dont go higher than that. Cauliflower is really nice, the boook speed one is nice

[honest cradle]

which world? does that matter to you?

[small sun]

nope, like if thats not w7 im ok

[lofty parrot]

i see

[honest cradle]

w1 beans, w2tyson/sandy pot, w3 rams, w4 shellies, w5 citringe/trmurs, w6 minichiefs

[small sun]

so same as dk

[muted rampart]

yeah

[honest cradle]

yes dk maps are crystal farming maps

[small sun]

ig time to do tremurs

[muted rampart]

crystal farming maps are maps with alot of enemy concentration

[small sun]

in the death bringer style

[muted rampart]

that are not far from each other

[honest cradle]

also as flat as can be

[small sun]

thats gonna take awhile i assume if thats not es or dk, but thx

[honest cradle]

all 4 of the spelunking ones are nice to throw small ribbons on, plumpcakes/nyan/burned marshmallow all have scaling beyond meal level so nice. If you're at a point where you're seriously looking at bubbles the liquid level meals are good pumpkin and kiwi.

I put a lot of ribons on next pet chance in breeding too but I dont think those are really needed

[lofty parrot]

ooh, i guess ill start them off on x2 then slowly build em up

ive got peach ring at lvl 17 ribbon and another lvl 15 ribbon, should i save the lvl 15 ribbon for merging? or use it on a meal?

[honest cradle]

I would definitely save a 15 for when you get more into db and getting a lot more ribbons daily

15 is many days of ribbons

[livid dove]

what are the recommended packs to buy first

[honest cradle]

I would look into the tips and tricks area of discord and find the discussion forum on them

[elder quartz]

Any tips for getting 3 cans in a row?

[honest cradle]

look down the sights and dont close your eye and hold gun straight

[livid dove]

thdx

I got auto loot I had been waiting for it to roll back around

[lofty parrot]

i already maxed ribbon upgrade in grimoire and got all the legend talents for ribbon

[livid dove]

finally got vman whoo

[thorny pecan]

just spam clicking and increase your chance by getting more yellow depth

[elder quartz]

oh i don't have to stop once the quest says 3/3? if it gets 3/3 and i click again it won't reset it?

[thorny pecan]

don't think so I just spam clicked until I got it

[elder quartz]

i lost it

it turned green for 1 secound then lost it

[thorny pecan]

oh so just get more yellow depth

[elder quartz]

just finished it, kind of annoying

[bitter night]

KING DOOT help
I'm looking for either a archer or mage to spawn him.

[thorny pecan]

I can help with one

[bitter night]

awesome

[thorny pecan]

Just let me see if I have doot eye

[thorny pecan]

don't have it sorry

[bitter night]

🙁

thx for checking though!

[thorny pecan]

if you want give me a DM tomorrow I can do it for you

[elder quartz]

i can be one

[bitter night]

awesome Itake a archer to cookie 8

[elder quartz]

Your bringing archer or you want me to be archer?

[bitter night]

Can you bring archer?

[elder quartz]

yea

[bitter night]

my friend and i are mage and warrior

[elder quartz]

just let me craft the eye rq

[bitter night]

sure

we wait inside

Thanks joe! 🙂

[elder quartz]

np

[subtle jacinth]

Question on breedability pets.... have been in W4 long enough to have generated at least a few hundred pets, have yet to see one with the breedability genetics. Does that sound right? Am I missing something?

[fair hare]

The breedability multi?

Or are you just talking about getting pink pets?

[subtle jacinth]

Not sure what multi means. The icon which shows what trait a pet has

pink pets, that's it

[fair hare]

Multi is a "multiplier". :)

[subtle jacinth]

I know that, just don't know how it applies to pets, it gets thrown around a lot in this game 🙂

[fair hare]

Sorry, I was just confused because you called it "breedability genetics", and had no idea what you were talking about. :)

[fair hare]

And it's a multiplier that increases your chance of getting a new pet and I think also a shiny pet.

Sec, let me see if I can remember where the heck pink pets came from.

Third Upgrade on the Upgrade tab.

Do you have anything in that?

[subtle jacinth]

Not yet, I haven't unlocked the recipe which lets that be upgraded 🙁

[subtle jacinth]

Well, thanks, at least now I know why I haven't gotten any of those types of pets yet!

[fair hare]

It's that one, when you get it. I thought it was based on your Breeding level, but that was a while back.

[subtle jacinth]

Thanks

[fair hare]

Level 10 in breeding. :)

[faint crystal]

iirc they all multiply off of eachother

thats how all multis work in this game

[fair hare]

I know it increases my odds of shiny pets for the pets that have that, but I kinda...did some pink pets then needed room for shiny ones, so I just deleted them. lol. (Just checked, looks like I still have a few.)

[lethal crag]

which difficulty is most key efficient to farm troll scales

[muted rampart]

probably dk?

like farm orb before entering portal and kill the boss instantly?

idk if that works not sure

or vman idk

[lethal crag]

nah i meant like normal chaotic nightmare, but i think its chaotic

[muted rampart]

let me see the wiki and try and calculate

[lethal crag]

i just checked, i got 18 from chaotic, 3 from normal and 50 from nightmare

so chaotic gave me 3.6 per key, obviously small sample size

[muted rampart]

yeah probably chaotic

chaotic has a 1 in 3 chance to drop 2

while normal has 1 in 8 to drop 1

and nightmare has 1 in 2 to drop 4

so per cost chaotic is the best

[hallow arrow]

Managed to clear last abom in w5 😌

The last dust seems impossible to really farm though

[queen sorrel]

It's getting a bit annoying have to micro manage the refinery because each tier requires the salt from the previous tier
This would be fine if it wasn't for the fact the buildings require salt of various tiers
It makes it difficult to choose which salt to focus on

[arctic yarrow]

u can use scoli's auto review to help see whats the safe rank for ur salt to be rank up to.

just never stop ranking up red and u will at some point be making enough salt comfortably u wont have to micro manage it as much

[hallow arrow]

what are the important account upgrades in AC tesseract?

[delicate terrace]

Should i refine red now to get orange going or still wait for the rank up?

[pseudo flicker]

always wait for the rankup

just turn autorefine on for orange

[delicate terrace]

roger that

[pseudo flicker]

if you click view rank, you'll see the "power per cycle"

the cost of the next salt should always be lower than the power per cycle of the above salt

red and green salts should always have auto refine off so you can rank them up, the other ones you have to balance

[delicate terrace]

Gotcha gotcha, ok cool i'm at 6, 4 and 1 right now

[pseudo flicker]

there's a LOT of them - double gold food and statues, lab crystals, prisma bubbles

[pseudo flicker]

so you see how for your orange salts it costs 8 red salts per cycle?

[delicate terrace]

yeah

[pseudo flicker]

don't upgrade orange salts again until your red salts produce above 8 per cycle, probably a bit higher than you'd think

up to 12-14 or something

[delicate terrace]

ah ok that makes sense

[hallow arrow]

ive been making my way through all the master classes and just got to w6 on my ww so im taking a break on that and planning on pushing my AC next just wanted to get a feel of how ac will make my account stronger lol

ww was kind of a disappointment in terms of account power

[pseudo flicker]

your red and green salts should always be off refine so you can constantly upgrade them, the other salts you need to balance

[delicate terrace]

Sounds good

[muted rampart]

could anyone recommend me an midgame build for smeltery on sb or bm

[pseudo flicker]

WW has some really solid account upgrades - abominations give a class exp multiplier, sneaking stuff, 3D prints, exalted stamps, etc

[pseudo flicker]

you just need a high enough kills/hour on gmush, do 2 minute afk claims

[hallow arrow]

yea but i feel like db was more impactful with drop rate damage etc

[muted rampart]

about how many would you say is high enough?

like 10k? 15k?

[pseudo flicker]

more is better, ideally over 100k at least before you really start caring about 2 minute claims for forge

[muted rampart]

hmmmm ok

[pseudo flicker]

but what ingots do you even need?

[muted rampart]

dementia and also platinum

but like alotttt of those

[pseudo flicker]

do you have the automation arm from w3 construction yet?

[muted rampart]

not yet

[pseudo flicker]

get that before you start doing the 2min claims

[muted rampart]

yeah ill probably do that

[pseudo flicker]

it'll make your life a LOT easier

automatically replenishes the ore stacks in the forge

[muted rampart]

its the next construction i believe

[dense fable]

good farming

[hallow arrow]

w6 miniboss?

[dense fable]

Candy spamming Clammies and MoonMoons

[hallow arrow]

oh lmao

[dense fable]

I don't think W6 miniboss can drop this many XD

around 2000 DK Orb stack + 3000 DR gave me like 20-30k Golden cake from a W6 miniboss

[hallow arrow]

damn

yea its not worth for my to candy clams i only get like 666 per 1 hour candy

[sleek pollen]

YUGE

[dense fable]

yeah, I was doing big pump

[hallow arrow]

daaamn 1m pearler shells in 24 hours crazy

[dense fable]

Bonus : entered "MM" on Gmush

I used around 400 of these candies in total

for Gmush + Clammies + MoonMoons

[muted rampart]

im probably going to halt w4 rushing to get better armor and weapons

[sleek pollen]

got multi crystal on them maps?

[muted rampart]

cuz currently my accuracy is getting low

[sleek pollen]

!accuracy

[dense fable]

yeahhh, around this on every map

[muted rampart]

already did most of those stuff

[dense fable]

and ofc on Gmush only AFK
on MoonMoons got both too

[sleek pollen]

gadamn nice

[muted rampart]

now ill probably try and get the constelation and also better armor and sword

and also use my wizard to enchant it cuz i forgot to do that when i made my amarok armor

[dense fable]

with a full setup DB
I get 165B Gmush kill/hr

I feel big guy now

[sleek pollen]

so pro

[muted rampart]

also what yall think the next master classes will do

[sleek pollen]

if lava follows DB/WW/AC release, it'll maybe be RG, but who knows 🤷‍♂️

[dense fable]

yeah, I assume DK evolve too

[muted rampart]

if vman is account wide bonuses what will infinilyte do?

[dense fable]

and it will be related to Spelunking

[muted rampart]

will it be server wide bonuses?

[sleek pollen]

wider account wide bonus

[muted rampart]

i believe infinilyte will buff other master classes

[sleek pollen]

I mean we still don't know the other 2 skills so I'll hold saying that but yeah out of the three classes, it seems the most 'endurance' shit or whatever

[cyan forge]

You guys should really do what my thought says

[dense fable]

DK masterclass is gonna stomp so hard every class , that we gonna leave every other class on forever sleep XD

[muted rampart]

its year 2030 w10 is released and in the end we learn the truth

the actual true class was not the beginner the archer or the warrior

it was the shaman

all roads lead to alchemy

[sleek pollen]

1.2k lvl pro

[cyan forge]

[dense fable]

when DK "grimoire" will say : "now your DR is affected in his form"

[dense fable]

I am a "chill" player, I don't like minmaxing, and never did Candy clicking as example + many times did not active anything

soo, I am a good example for players that you can push high even not tryharding

OFC there was money involved, BUT it can be achieved

[sleek pollen]

lvl 1200 will take a while for my char

[dense fable]

this was my idea :
"I better pay some money, instead of ACTIVE or candy click that much time"

basically paying for my comfort

[fair hare]

I think that is a great take on game spending. :)

[dense fable]

yeahh, I usually pay in games only if it really helps, soo rarely buying skins in games

and Lava made many good packs, so it it what it is XD💸

[fair hare]

I used to have a pretty good sized game budget, and more for "this makes the game more fun for me" rather than "this will make me win!". But alas, I retired, so on a budget. At this point, my Idleon Budget is 50 cents a day average. (So it's been OK for me to buy another pack, but the offer was the crappy 2021 new years one, and now this super hot fire thing. lol.)

[dense fable]

Yeahh, even tho I loved spending in idleon, spent 250$
Bought all A/S tier packs

I will not buy again packs, because I do not agree with how lava treats the game

If we spend money, I wanna get back quality and care

So bug fixes and stuff like this

[peak forge]

!guide

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[sleek pollen]

it's the same result still

[fair hare]

I've spent $121 so far in...more than 9 months, but not by much. (lol, $250 used to be my monthly average gaming budget, $40 per week in general, and then a few hundred extra in December and my birthday month. Those were the days. :P)

[dense fable]

As example Statues capped on 10 million stack is a big problem for late gamers, and filter slot limitation too

We are forced to farm zenith, but causes lag

Solutions seems easy, I am up to pay more for packs, if problems are getting solved😭

[dense fable]

Yeahh, I am living with my parents, and I work, so got some budget ( 100$/month for games)

Tho, this is my first game where money spent really feels like a big help

In League of legends I regret my 1000$ on skins😭 ( spent while playing for 10 years XD)

I skipped many hard/boring/grindy part of idleon because I bought packs ( and I rolled Doot )
I do not regret any spending

[pseudo flicker]

new viego skin

[fair hare]

I always go for useful stuff, but as games progress (some of the games I've played), after buying a pack, the next pack/bonus/event-reward-that-requires-money is always better than the one you just spent money on, if you know what I mean. That's when I hit my bail point on a game, which isn't where this one is at tyvm, lol.

[dense fable]

Yeahh

I would be really glad, if with our money spent, Lava hires a bug fixing guy

No big developer or tryhard coder, just bug fixing

Killing active and having lag in late game, makes me not wanting to log in

We can't dodge lag at 3000DR+

[fair hare]

I think he's so far into it, it'd be tough. (Not impossible, but difficult.) This game has a LOT of moving/interactive parts.

[dense fable]

Only with some changing in code

[fair hare]

Lag definitely needs to be worked on!

[dense fable]

Yeahh, I agree with that, but Lag is just unacceptable in today's gaming industry

Especially cause I have a top tier PC, thought I can beat any lag
But Idleon still freezes

[arctic yarrow]

idk coding but it could prolly just be somethign as simple as turning off dmg number like in the TD

[dense fable]

Yeahh

And items merging on the ground

So we don't see 30 spots of golden food and Statues
Instead 1 big pile

[arctic yarrow]

this definitely need to be athing. especially because of dungeon food

or just let us sell the food

[fair hare]

I was wondering about that earlier today, and I'm not even into that point in the game yet. lol. (And I do have a coding background, retired DBA/web dev.)

[arctic yarrow]

late game TD when ur pushing past wave 100 has crazy amount of numbers appearing if u dont turn off dmg number

[true hamlet]

[arctic yarrow]

i tried it off then on once and games insta freeze

hi jiof

https://tenor.com/view/cat-silly-hello-hi-silly-kitten-cat-wave-hello-gif-15245852903591135367

[dense fable]

I am not at that stage but for some people statues are terrible

Their inventory fills statues faster than Zenith can covert it

So they crash

All the 80+ slots, fill in seconds

[arctic yarrow]

i have that happen to me. didnt crash but it made a new stack in my inventory lol. it hit the statue limit in 1 slot

[dense fable]

Cause we have 10 million cap

[arctic yarrow]

ah not all slot thats some crazy dr

i have 2k dr only

[dense fable]

Yeahh, I saw somebody with every inventory slot maxed statues XD

[fair hare]

You two are really making me want to work on advancing. 🤣

[arctic yarrow]

we are both very whale

[muted rampart]

oh well your money your choice

not us to decide

[dense fable]

Ye, I ate packs

[fair hare]

I'm kind of a...sardine. Or maybe a rockfish. lol.

[muted rampart]

i dont really care too much about whales

except when they have decisions of ingame updates

like a few games i used to play

[arctic yarrow]

i have 33 bundle lmao

[muted rampart]

forgot the game name cuz it was long ago

[dense fable]

I whaled because I wanted to skip boring parts of the game

I love grinding in games, but not the "Candy clicking" type

[arctic yarrow]

welp candy clicking is dead

and even more dead on mobile

[muted rampart]

yeah idleon is one of those game where you take efficiency to the extreme

sometimes there are a few stuff not even im that insane to do

[fair hare]

Well, in the last game that I played with any regularity (off and on for 8 years) when a new world opened up there was a guy who admitted to spending 10k on the first day. But we added it up, and it would have been more like $28k. THAT kind of whaling I object to just on principle. lol.

[muted rampart]

like 20 minute cycling traps

[true hamlet]

I wouldn't consider candy clicking dead 🤔

[arctic yarrow]

1hour candy vs 24hour candy drops 1b drop no matter what

[dense fable]

With big carry cap, you can candy click

Saw somebody putting 110B logs in inventory

[true hamlet]

sounds reasonable yeah

[arctic yarrow]

i mean yeah u can

but not on mobile atleast unless u have like 1 axe swing give 1billions

thats no longer candy clicking

[dense fable]

I wonder if there are people among us who buy Gems alone, not just packs

[muted rampart]

i heard that the ultra late game way to use alchemy is like disabling printing using bubo getting a few hours worth of liquid and using candy in a very specific way to not stack items or some of them get deleted and it gives less bubbles

it was something that was kinda insane when i saw for the first time

[fair hare]

In this game that would be...weird. lol. But if you think about it, there's not that much "stuff" to buy, even in packs. (In comparison to a lot of games.)

[dense fable]

I just use 220 attempts to level up bubbles ( it costs atoms )

And I am doing fine with that 220/ day
( which means around 800 levels in a bubble , cause LAARRYYY)

[arctic yarrow]

the item getting deleted is if for example ur chopping logs actively and then use candy. the dropped claim from candy gets deleted when it comes into contact with the drops u actively get

the way to avoid that is just hit tree once then move away

then use candy

[muted rampart]

yeah but ive heard a few late game players get it deleted just by using one candy

not even needing to be active

maybe its fake but from what ive seen some people do i believe it

[arctic yarrow]

ohhh

i think its when they swipe the screen instead of clicking the drop

[true hamlet]

they aren't doing it right

[dense fable]

Yeah

[arctic yarrow]

that was an issue too

[true hamlet]

swiping is fine, you just don't want any stacks in your inventory

[arctic yarrow]

oh that got fixed too?

[true hamlet]

it was never a problem

[arctic yarrow]

i see. there is too many bug to even remember

[muted rampart]

if i had to say the weirdest type of people in this community id say people that actually do 20 minute cycles on traps

like who actually does that?

[true hamlet]

I upgraded this yesterday, it's kinda pointless I guess?

lol

[muted rampart]

0.2% will matter on w10

trust

[true hamlet]

I mean

it took me 1 min so it's not too bad

but I could've also just went to an MC and clicked upgrade once

[arctic yarrow]

20min trap with shiny snitch is the fastest way to get shiny critters

[muted rampart]

yeah

but it sounds so insane to me ngl

[true hamlet]

you use 20 min trap, but you don't have to claim every 20

[arctic yarrow]

i did it a few times when i was doing the farming in w6

[true hamlet]

you get the same amount of shinies from a 20 min trap as a ... 28day trap

you just set it to 20 so you can collect it whenever

[muted rampart]

i guess i was wrong

[dense fable]

I did it maybe for 1-2 days ( checking them for many hours straight )

Then I had enough shinies for everything I needed

[muted rampart]

most people actually do that

[dense fable]

1-2 days in my whole career

[arctic yarrow]

yeah its just a 1 time thing that people do to craft armor lol

shiny are rarely uses in other stuff

[muted rampart]

im scared of the people that actively do that

[dense fable]

It was when I was pushing every Trapping shiny ( questline )

[true hamlet]

nah you'd usually do it while doing other things

[robust marsh]

[true hamlet]

like if you want to do active WW, you could claim a few traps here and there

[arctic yarrow]

nobody waits 20 minute at drone

[true hamlet]

or if you do active refinery

[muted rampart]

they are always hiding and lurking

[dense fable]

Yeahh, active WW is good for breeding, or Tempest mode pushing bosses
So you got time for traps

[arctic yarrow]

when i did 20 min traps, i was doing farming and sneaking at the same time

sometimes i did summoning instead

[true hamlet]

can also do while doing nuggets or sanctum hehe

[arctic yarrow]

ah yeah insta gaming lol

i should prolly try to get the max gaming plant evolution

270 crops found should be enough gaming evo right

[dense fable]

I pushed max farming fast at W7 release

Due to Glassy crops

[arctic yarrow]

i was very neglectful of farming. when w7 released i only had 127 crops found

[dense fable]

Ahh yee
I had 205 maybe
It was happy pushing to 280

[arctic yarrow]

how is ur magic bean upgrade? in the 10m or 100m? or more?

[fair hare]

I think I have 42. I kept asking basic questions that didn't get answers, so I kinda gave up and just collect once in a while. 🤣 Stevo did finally give me a rundown a couple of weeks ago, though, just haven't implented it. :)

[dense fable]

100-200-300m something like that prices

And I stopped increasing that, cause buying lvl 125-130 Exotic market upgrades, good enough for me

[true hamlet]

I was at 226 crops before w7 lol

pretty happy when it became a little easier

[arctic yarrow]

looks like i need to do more magic bean trade then

[true hamlet]

the evo gmo costs were at 26b for me

[arctic yarrow]

mine are only at 10m

[true hamlet]

you don't need as much now

[dense fable]

Yeahh
I traded like 3 big Glassy package + Medal crops boosting it

And it was enough to max farming

[arctic yarrow]

medal takes so long to grow man

i have bought 5 instagrows from gemshop

now that im close to finishing farming idk if its even worth getting more

[dense fable]

Probably save the gems for W7

[robust marsh]

[dusk prism]

Is the post office something good to do in w3 on all chars? seems kinda expensive

[cerulean ether]

Could I get someone to come to the snake in world 2 and say hi?

[desert wyvern]

has anyone got this cog piece?

[novel shale]

is there a way to get auto to place the gravestone in the same place

or do i have to check up on it every few minutes

[sleek pollen]

-# if you're going to use bones there do be one or too trick

[novel shale]

also can u get inf uptime on gravestone

[sleek pollen]

hmm no?

proly not, don't remember

[soft gale]

Where should i start trapping? are frogs best early?

[red relic]

Definitely start on frogs cuz the shiny version of frogs is a material to the first set of trap upgrades beyond the one you can buy in the shop. better traps = more traps placed at one time = more xp and critters

[soft gale]

Oh perfect i didnt catch that thank you

[arctic yarrow]

surely lava wont release a new bundle right

[true hamlet]

Nah he loves breaking his own records

199.91usd in packs since w7 released

Gotta step up his game

Maybe we go for 300 this time

[arctic yarrow]

my gacha needs the money instead man

[night oracle]

I haven't gotten blue yet :(
But seems like it's purely build rate

[true hamlet]

Blue can roll very high xp and up to 155% xp..?

Or was that green

Nah I think green can roll up to 132%

[arctic yarrow]

i have a bluegem cog. 116% and 150% for entire row boost

[true hamlet]

Did you buy every postw7 pack?

[arctic yarrow]

my one and only

[true hamlet]

I got mine vertical

[arctic yarrow]

i didnt buy pig and bunny

lemme recheck what else i didnt buy

yup just those 2 post w7 lol

im also missing the cool bird pack. altho i already have the cool bird exclusive

very nice gems and pet crystals i havent gotten

[robust marsh]

[rapid idol]

Anybody know of a more recent foraging guide or is there an old one that is still viable?

[thick tulip]

How do I get bill brrs vote?

[crystal drift]

I guess when you finish his quest line.

[vivid rivet]

Get to a certain point of his quest

[frozen cargo]

I'm pushing through w4 but have realised I haven't touched the "shrines" mechanic at all. Can anyone ELI5 or link me to where I can understand how to use them, where to put them etc? Thank you!

[wraith kindle]

what lineup is the best for speedrun pet wave 100?

[paper vortex]

put them in the map youre grinding, they level up based on time played on map, later on they will work for the entire world if placed in town, and i think they become fully global at some point after that

[odd mauve]

Can someone send me a friend bonus from an account level 12,000 or just below that, preferably with drop rate, skill efficiency, and total damage? Would be Awsome 🙂

[severe sail]

just got to W4 and my storage chest is nearly full with just materials and monster drops. Is there a mechanic I am missing or how am I supposed to handle getting new drops from here on?

[inner matrix]

what should i max next? arcade ball? boss gems?

[turbid stag]

@severe sail Do you have any unnecessary items?

[turbid stag]

#bot-commands message

[severe sail]

probably, i can clean out a few. I was mostly wondering if there's a mechanic coming up that handles storage or gets rid of the need to hold 4 pages of mob drops

[muted rampart]

w3 construction

there is one thing that gives chest space

plus use your statues to remove space

you wont get the 20k for onyx so soon

plus remove most items you dont need that are unstackable

like armor, weapons etc]

at most only keep 2 copies

and that only for the ones you will eventually use

[severe sail]

understandable. I heard that some storage upgrades can also drop from certain mobs, should probably hunt for those too

[muted rampart]

yes

there also quests related to them

you can check the ones remaining on ie or just your ingame menu

i forgot where it shows on the game

but i know you can check after that go to wiki and check which chests you are missing

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Storage in the bottom of the page

[severe sail]

I think it was the "Storage info" tab when you open the talents, but for some reason it's empty for me

weird, I remember being able to see stack sizes there

[muted rampart]

you can check it there

i know you can cuz i literally checked like 1 hour ago

[severe sail]

Weird, no storage for me

[vivid rivet]

Go to inv not talents

[inner matrix]

just defeated him with no helmet equipped but didnt count?

[daring nova]

Im struggling to push w4 cuz i git no multikill due to low damage how do i get my damage uo im oushing with dk

[fossil kayak]

Did you use a weapon?

[sleek pollen]

⁨⁨Alch, stamps, Vault, cards and card sets, levels/talents, W1 Owl, W2 Roo, orange potions, meals, star signs, sailing artifacts, divinities, dungeon flurbos, PO Box, and Hole are all sources of damage and accuracy for W5⁩⁩
⁨⁨For W6, add in Equinox - matching scims, Rift - eclipse skulls, alchemy - tri bubbles, W6 skills⁩⁩

DK you might also need 1.5x the accuracy needed of the mob to get some bonus dmg from 'Precision Power' talent in 3rd tab, tho you need some refinery rank for that so might be low early on 🤷‍♂️

also putting your char in lab if you didn't already, there's a lab node in there that gives x2 kill

[naive basin]

Question: Are the booster cogs that boost exp better than the ones boosting build rate or vise versa?

[vivid rivet]

Xp best

[naive basin]

thnx!

is there a guide to optimal settups for all worship tower defence games?

i can only find the goblin gorefest one

[true hamlet]

you search from:pancakex.: guide

like that

[naive basin]

in the chat here?

[ashen pivot]

why did nobody tell me pet arena becomes a joke once you unlock the bone looter eggshell drum burger build. My best wave was 49 using a monolith build before this and now im on round 125 and its still going as we speak

every attack gets blocked, the damage of bone goes up exponentially bc of the linear increase of dmg and the linear increase of attack speed

and whenever i take dmg which is like 1 every 100 attacks it js gets healed within 10 seconds

for anyone starting breeding thats the build you want lol

i cant send photos for some reason but my buffs are overlapping

lwk this build might to to 200

at 135 rn and still going

ok nvm lol i got a bit too excited, lost at 140

the attacks 1 shot my pets there so i got unlucky and a few got through and it insta killed

[arctic yarrow]

idk if bro knows there is a guide out there

[ashen pivot]

im using it

i js didnt realise how much of a difference that build would make

[arctic yarrow]

peapod will be get u to round 200 ez

[naive basin]

guys i still didn understand how to find the guide for the tower defence setups 😭

[arctic yarrow]

!guide

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[ashen pivot]

yea i got 6th pet slot from that run and im using new build for 200 so i should get it this run

if i close breeding interface mid pet arena run does it keep going? ts lwk taking forever and i should be statue farming

[arctic yarrow]

ur stuck there

[ashen pivot]

aw

btw is there a better way to get pet eggs then from the w4 colo, i ran out of tickets 🙁

or a better way to get tickets would work

oh actually what is the best pet setup for spices, the guide im using has a few but doesnt say which to use

[ashen pivot]

i dont have the top or right ones

the arrow and bowl

r there any substitutes or cn i js not do it

[random field]

Just replace it w smth else until u get it

[ashen pivot]

alr

any suggestions?

[rocky roost]

unlock them

it isn’t that hard with splicer and some eggs

[ashen pivot]

i ran out of eggs getting arena build

dont have anymore colo tickets either

[rocky roost]

w4 mini boss

[vivid rivet]

Question whats the easiest way to reach the 120 wave with 4 pets(equinox quest)

[ashen pivot]

theyre all dead :(.

[ashen pivot]

check my massive wall of text earlier

oh wait sry thats with 5

[vivid rivet]

but we idle players we don read that much

[ashen pivot]

here wait

bone monolith coffee burger in that order

have bone monolith and burger on auto attack

and use coffee whenever frozen time ability has 2 seconds left

[vivid rivet]

How to make specific ones auto

[ashen pivot]

click near the bottom of the ability

it has to be near the bottom or it js removes the pet

[vivid rivet]

So bone coffe freaze time and whats the 4th

[vivid rivet]

Oh no i thought you ment somehow to make only those 2 auto

[ashen pivot]

bone freezetime coffee burger

[vivid rivet]

[ashen pivot]

yea thats how u make only 2 auto

you should see some with a tick and some with a cross which shows which are auto

make sure u have auto abilities toggled on or it wont work

then u deselect the 1s u dont want

which is only coffee in this case

im at round 155 rn and have 400k shield stacks lmao

what is even happening

@vivid rivet did u figure out how to do the thing

[vivid rivet]

It didnt even reach to the highest amount i hadon 4

[devout hearth]

it takes a while to get to 200

a long while

[true hamlet]

maybe 10 min

[devout hearth]

took me like 3-4 hours to go from 170 to 200

[ashen pivot]

yea ive been on this run for over 30mins and im only up to 174

[true hamlet]

[devout hearth]

yeah if you dont gave millions of pet power it is gonna take longer obv

[ashen pivot]

i barely have 20k lol

[devout hearth]

also turn on high performance so it doesnt lag as much

[ashen pivot]

yea i have it on i js turned it off for ss lol

what do shield stacks even do

and why do i have 1mil

[devout hearth]

eggshell stacks
gives block chance

[ashen pivot]

i dont have an eggshell in my team

[devout hearth]

so as long as everything is on auto your pets shouldnt die

[devout hearth]

yeah but looter can roll eggshell

[ashen pivot]

oh yea thats it

i have a mimic asw so its like 2fa

[devout hearth]

looter can literally roll everything

[ashen pivot]

looter+drum op combo

[true hamlet]

hmm

[ashen pivot]

bro i mightve left it too late to do the certain number of items stacks acheivment

bc i dont have the carry cap to hold the millions of extra items

[true hamlet]

make a new stack then

🤔

[devout hearth]

make new stack in chest

it will count for the achievement

[vivid rivet]

Yes but its worse then the combo i normally used ngl

[ashen pivot]

omd your a genius

[ashen pivot]

hmm, it got me past round 50 1st try, and my pet powers only 20k, maybe your doing it wrong?

u gotta activate the coffee ability while time is frozen with 2s left, so that when time unfreezes all the attacks hit and insta refil time freeze and coffee

if that makes sense

[ashen pivot]

i lwk dont think its gonna take me that long bc im alr up to 186

unless it gets a lot worse

[naive basin]

bro why is it not lettin me put 2 pets of the same species in battle, when did lava change this?!

[ashen pivot]

ive been playing for like 4 months and its always been like that as far as i know

but again 4 months isnt long so maybe it was diff b4 idk

[naive basin]

yeah, i havent played for like a year, i just came back a week ago

does anyone have a guide for territory fights that is up to date, because the other one uses 2 coffees

[ashen pivot]

yes 1 sec

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#gid=893917212

pet tab on this

[naive basin]

oh ok thnx

[ashen pivot]

has a bunch of other stuff asw ive been using it for everything

[devout hearth]

you cant put 2 of the same pets
like sand giant and sand giant

[ashen pivot]

but u can have 2 of same ability

like stick and goblin

i gotchu tem ❤️

[devout hearth]

ye

[naive basin]

ohhh shiii, i was putting the same pet, i forgot stick had coffee ability too

my bad, yeah its always been this way, i just forgot

[ashen pivot]

lwk my cooking sucks, my speed is only like 1Q how do i get it up?

[dense pine]

atoms, vman, dia chef

[ashen pivot]

my atoms are horrid maybe thats why

[devout hearth]

blood marrow talent mainly

[ashen pivot]

diamond shef lvl is like 20 asw lol

[devout hearth]

that's the hard carry of cooking speed

[ashen pivot]

and blood marrow only like 150

[dense pine]

bargain tags

[ashen pivot]

ik ive been using them but my spice gen is garbage

am gonna fix it over the next few days

[dense pine]

i think getting it to like 1.10 or 11 should be easy enough

[devout hearth]

eventually you can't lv diamond chef even with bargain tags and just have to pray that nblb hits it

[dense pine]

"pray"

[devout hearth]

well not really pray but yknow what i mean

[dense pine]

just lvl whatever is lower than it manually to force it

[devout hearth]

have fun leveling the more expensive bubbles

[ashen pivot]

yo i got free pet, surely its doot this time

[devout hearth]

some bubbles are just practically impossible to level manually

[ashen pivot]

gotta wait until after this arena run to claim tho :'(.

[dense pine]

theres very little bubbles harder to lvl than dia chef manually to atom range, dont be silly

[dense pine]

good thing nblb effects more than 1 bubble.

[devout hearth]

rare drops

[dense pine]

easier

and nblb

also, theres only 1 afaik

[devout hearth]

2

oj juice and stacked rice cakes

[dense pine]

actually maybe not easier

at least at the time youd actually want to lvl d chef

nonetheless, nblb should be able to effect all of them just fine

[dense pine]

forgot about the rice cake one

[vivid rivet]

I wasnt i did exactly as you said bone freeze coffee burger but it got 1 wave less then my best of 73 when i used fist laser freeze burger

[vivid rivet]

Thats what i did

[ashen pivot]

wait so do u have 5 slots?

isnt 5th at wave 50

[vivid rivet]

Yes i have 5 slots but its a 4 slot quest

[ashen pivot]

oh

thats mb i thought u were pushing for 5th slot

[vivid rivet]

This

[vivid rivet]

No i said in my statement its for equinox quest didnt i or im dumb

[ashen pivot]

u did but i didnt know the quest was specifically for 4 pets i js thought u only had 4 unlocked

again mb, my equinox sucks so idk that quest

[vivid rivet]

Ah

[vivid rivet]

Oh its all good

[ashen pivot]

try peashooter looter refiller burger

[devout hearth]

also the spelunking cave drops like popcorn
and also farming crops since it takes a while to get really fast in it

[ashen pivot]

i looked it up for that quest and it said that

[vivid rivet]

I just only recently stoped neglecting pets so this quest annoyed me

[sleek pollen]

https://imgur.com/a/TVewfif

[vivid rivet]

I cant do the meta yet dont have the horn

[devout hearth]

i was wondering how tf do i get a 2nd peapod but then remembered that the final w4 pet is a peapod as well

[ashen pivot]

yea peashooters rlly far

[devout hearth]

and the 2nd peapod is even further

[ashen pivot]

round 193, surely less then an hour till im done

i gotta check my sailing 🙁

it needs love

[devout hearth]

i need to work on my shiny pets since i been kind of neglecting them

[dense pine]

spelunking is fine

[devout hearth]

not really
since it takes a while to get stam back

[dense pine]

you can still get them to atom range fairly fast

another thing, you can also just leave bubble at lvl 1 so nblb ignores them

[sleek pollen]

that's why there's a second recommended setup without peapod
(I did it without peapod)

[devout hearth]

why would you do that tho if most (if not all) bubble bonuses are nice to have

[dense pine]

...so you could force nblb to proc on a harder bubble such as d chef..?

especially on stuff you cant lvl much already

such as the farming or sailing ones

[sleek pollen]

tell that to fucking mastery and anvil point reduction

[dense pine]

read above

[dense pine]

i leveled up mastery since its technically not useless and gives money via vault

anvil production is still 1 tho

[dense pine]

(im pretty sure i just misclicked and im just coping)

[sleek pollen]

ah right that bubble ig..