midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[jade sky]

How do I actually read ieautoreview in a useful way? Is it just "work on everything that's below your current progression" or is there some specific method of looking through things

[faint crystal]

weekly dps challenges that give points that you can spend for buffs

hallloooo nub

[limber moth]

I like the sounds of that over crystal mobs

thanks a lot

[ebon blaze]

Bigger sample size = more resources per hour

[faint crystal]

no worries

[fresh parrot]

wow

[limber moth]

wait does that mean i need to get level 25 fishing on my mage?

[candid creek]

Nya

[fresh parrot]

Hi

[candid creek]

Nya~ anyways

[fresh parrot]

ur pink now

[candid creek]

I can be more pink

Nah jk

But I can be orange

[fresh parrot]

nice

[candid creek]

I should PROBABLY do this right?

Level 20, haven't done for like 5 days...

It's just so BORING being stuck on blushpit

Second thing (I got something REALLY RARE)

try n guess it Nya

Smth rare that ISN'T in arcade

Nor is the rare thing event based

[ebon blaze]

1 lab ring down, 9 to go

[candid creek]

NYA try n guess it!!!!

[frigid hollow]

Is there somewhere a spredsheat that shows when speciffic lab chip will be avaible

[faint crystal]

pretty much

[fresh parrot]

give himt

[tardy path]

Is there an upgrade somewhere with which you can afk in equinox valley?

[solid lion]

Just leave ur game open and go somewhere else or do in a split window

Also u can print those resources

[mossy anvil]

what

i will not try to guess anything, just flex or dont bother

[blazing jewel]

Does the crit-chance upgrade on lightning towers stack? If so, how do they stack? Will getting 5 of the upgrade mean 100% crit chance?

[candid creek]

flex

[turbid stag]

-# Tusk do you have a nickname for me? #off-topic-chat message

[candid creek]

@mossy anvil @fresh parrot

[candid creek]

I'm not good smart enoug

[turbid stag]

it can be anything tho, whatever you wish

[fresh parrot]

oh, grats

[candid creek]

but I aint good at it!

Home Keilone

[mossy anvil]

obol when

[near parrot]

Is there like a mini boss in world 4 that i can do to get a quick key instead of afking in the last map

[round pulsar]

yes

drop a toxic barrel on the top platform in purple mushrooms

[fair hare]

fml. I was going to build my first troll armor for a couple of characters today, and two days ago I dumped a bunch of cooking clogs during cleanup, wiped out my inventory of starfire bars, and activated a bunch of extra gold twine fishing rods I had.

[fair hare]

You can also get them in the W4 Col

[oak tendon]

Are the last couple of rift challenges just damage checks?

[near parrot]

Im now in world 5 thanks a lot

I way yo weak for the guys here tho so i gotta grind some better gear

Still walkign in void so i gotta change that

[unique bolt]

whats the best pet team for arena?

[jagged bramble]

What’s the best class for rift 1

[ebon blaze]

I gotta check but I think the smithy is only a week away now 🫣

[manic moat]

there really isnt a way to make bars faster?

[balmy crystal]

archers got this thing, so go to frogs and do 2mins claims or use 1hr candy

[manic moat]

oo forgot about this, thank you

and how do candies work for it? when the forge tab is open to use it?

[balmy crystal]

buddy, how are you gonna open the forge on the map frogs

[manic moat]

timezones

[unique bolt]

whats the best pet team for arena?

[balmy crystal]

!guide , check the pets section

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[dense fable]

what do yall max after Lvl 20 ribbon Yumi ?

what to focus to Lvl 20 ribbon next

[fair hare]

This is from a post SOMEwhere here, but don't know where. I just have it bookmarked. https://imgur.com/24XSf5Z

[balmy crystal]

tbh i'd consider raising everything to T10 while focusing a bit more on those meals ^^

[fair hare]

I'm going to start doing 5s as soon as I get one of every ribbon from 1-15. I am weird that way.

[dense fable]

okay, then T10

[candid creek]

had it like a month ago. you're so evil

[balmy crystal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/849473649832755231/1449247678973218968/obolsuck.gif

[candid creek]

BAKA KAIDI BLUEFIRE HEYYYYYY

[balmy crystal]

ello

[candid creek]

did you SEE WHAT I GOT

[balmy crystal]

ys

e

[candid creek]

:3

[balmy crystal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1265636854431219772/1297946528643809385/silly.gif

[candid creek]

what about the OTHER thing I got

earlier on

or the OTHER OTHER thing a WHILE ago

[balmy crystal]

uhh

no idea i just got here

[candid creek]

emp obol

a while ago

[balmy crystal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1324964674462154803/1383571557057822914/yepe.gif

[candid creek]

emp wings yesterday

AND

discord FREE for a YEAR from Keilen giveaway

[fair hare]

lol, Hi!

[balmy crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-versus-vs-alien-monster-vs-alien-gif-16037253809360562033

crazy

[candid creek]

Kaidi guess wut I got :3

[fair hare]

What?

[fair hare]

You going to make me search through all of your posts today to find out? 🤣

[candid creek]

yes

[fair hare]

Working on it, srsly

[candid creek]

I'm midgame

[fair hare]

Nice! I finally hit skydoggies with one char yesterday or the day before. lol. Very slow going.

[candid creek]

1/40,000

with essentially 70x DR

nearly 1/600 chance and I hit it

[fair hare]

Congrats! I can't even get the Kruk cape or whatever it is for a quest. lol.

[ebon blaze]

Congrats man that’s wicked

[stiff grove]

does anybody have any idea as to why this isnt working

[balmy crystal]

the worm says w4 crystals

[fair hare]

Don't they need to be Crystal Custards?

[stiff grove]

well thats one reason to not just breeze through the dialogue

[fair hare]

lol. Been there. :)

I always read the quest tab these days, rather than relying on my faulty memory or reading skills, or trusting the quest helper gives me all the info that I need.

[fair hare]

I was going to build Natural Traps for everyone (only Vman has them right now). Since I'd already built one, was going to use craft from storage. But it says they require wooden traps, and it looks like I've never built a wooden trap - no "craft from storage" button, dimmed or otherwise - so I can't figure out how I would have built the Natural one. Or did I actually build those with the first one, and crafting "craft from storage" is just...buggy?

[candid creek]

yup!

[candid creek]

x3 I have like 4 or 3

I don't like them that much, troll is better (troll is allstat)

[fair hare]

I just wanted to finish the quest. lol.

[fair hare]

Quest gives a trophy:

Ooh, Jars opened up when I wasn't paying attention.

[candid creek]

I know Kaidi

I have it

[fair hare]

I think it was mainly your comparison of cape to troll. I don't care about the cape, but I do want the trophy!

[candid creek]

Ah I see!

Well, I hope you can get it!

[fair hare]

Eventually, lol. I try every few days, just spam Kruk for a while. Not particularly lucky. lol.

[rare prism]

is there a priority for kitchen upgrades? all-in on speed? except for first one where i do new recipe?

[fair hare]

I do new recipes on multiple at a time, since they miss so often. That way if I'm using ladles, I restart the faster New Recipe one, but the slower ones are already partly done. And once you get cabbage, wouldn't want to go all in on speed because the others are cheaper, and cabbage gives bonus based on multiples of 10 upgrades (total) on a single kitchen.

I guess I try to keep my kitchens balanced (for fire/luck/speed, not with each other) to get better cabbage bonuses, and so I can use some of them for both new and regular cooking.

[rare prism]

makes sense, i think i need some other progression to speed up new recipe, since i don't have the w7 stuff yet

[fair hare]

I'm technically in W5/W6, but I mostly am still working on 1-2-3-4 stuff. I'm quite a ways from reaching W7.

[mossy anvil]

wym

nitor?

[fair hare]

Other than richelin kitchens, there are pies and canopies, and a stamp and a vial. There may be others, not sure, but that's what I've worked on.

[fair hare]

I think Keilen was giving away one year Nitro subs a few days ago.

[mossy anvil]

gotcha

[pale bane]

does shiny snitch happen on collection (daily) from the drone? or only when i set up the drone?

And then does all character need it (who have shiny traps active) or just my hunter

[burnt merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-shrek-meme-shrek-good-question-good-question-gif-7176451729184982026

[lusty lava]

(I believe) shiny chance is checked on trap collection. Amount of critters is checked on placing of trap

#bot-commands message

[uneven obsidian]

that is correct

[pale bane]

appreciate the help. It seems i never fully understood what the trapper drone did.

or rather how it worked.

[burnt merlin]

ah i was right about shiny chance then, because i was certain i had 100% chance on placing, but only 6% on collection

[lusty lava]

Big thing about the drone is that you can place all the traps on your BM

[burnt merlin]

i figured it would just use the characters stats when placing for them

[lusty lava]

Nope! Snapshots your current character's efficiency

[burnt merlin]

i guess ill have to go on every character and manually remove them then

[pale bane]

using the drone? you can remove them all on the one character.

[burnt merlin]

oh really?

[pale bane]

or you can just overright them every character when logged into the hunter character.

[burnt merlin]

i thought it just did collection and then auto placement, or placing them

[pale bane]

yeah there's little arrows.

[burnt merlin]

thank god for that info, you are a life saver

oh i missed the big "delete trap" button

[pale bane]

So from what i've learned as i've been trying to figure all of this out.

Get on your hunter.
Get your best cards Agil gear.
Level up your eagle eye talent.
get the best trapping tool on your hunter.
Go to the trapper drone, clear everyones traps, and place all the traps you need while on the hunter.

The only caveat i think is that you should focus pure XP gain when placing traps for the vman/beginner. as you want to make sure they stay ahead of everyone else's level.

Then every day going forward you should log onto the hunter that did the trapping first (as you agil / level etc / prayer/ cards) will all affect the shiny chances of the boxes that get gathered (as the drone collects on your day's reset timer)

Please feel free to suggest changes to this, this is just how i understand it lol.

[fair hare]

Right now, I keep my best trapping tool on Maestro/Vman, to make 100% sure Maestro stays ahead of BM in trapping. Don't think I'll do that forever, but that's my game currently. :)

[burnt merlin]

i need more froges for efficiency, i guess ill put a bunch of 5 day 200x wooden crates down to hopefully get alot of those

[pale bane]

yeah the suggestion to use the best trap on the hunter is just because it spreads out the eff % onto every character. But yeah dude you do you.

[fair hare]

Eh, I just do that because I got Maestro to ahead of BM, and then he dropped, did it again, and then he dropped. Everytime that happened I'd lose skill efficiency for all skills for everyone, so now I just want to be sure. (Had a similar problem with Worship, so now he has the biggest skull.) I'm betting most people pay more attention that I do 🤣 but this way I don't have to pay attention.

[eager warren]

I can't get these to work for the wurm.. the shield defends against 3/4 of the axes and then the guy in the front dies

[pale bane]

time to get a second best trapper box lol

[pseudo flicker]

the front guy dying is fine

[eager warren]

even rattler?

[pseudo flicker]

oh i thought you were talking about the top one

[eager warren]

well I unlocked alchemic and flashy

so apparently the top doesn't work

[pseudo flicker]

and yes it's fine for the rattler to die eventually, as it says 2-3 pets may die during the fight

at any rate you can easily do all spice battles with only 5 pets

[fair hare]

I used the first one to get as far as I am, though I couldn't tell you how far that is, lol, and haven't tried it recently. Do you need stronger pets?

[eager warren]

I don't think the number really matters much I beat 200 arena and I think I'll be 1 shot no matter what

[fair hare]

Which territory are you on? (Some of mine are higher than that and some are lower, but we're probably averaging the same number of points overall.)

[eager warren]

wurm catacombs

[fair hare]

Yeah, I got Wurm Catacombs with that setup.

[burnt merlin]

so natural crates are just for getting xp? and i would...want to use that on my vman?

[fair hare]

I got through Wurms and all the way to Lullabye Airways. Lullabye was locked until a couple of days ago.

[pseudo flicker]

I was able to beat all the spice territory battles (including world 7) with the top lineup (minus looter, only 5 pets required)

takes a while but it gets the job done

[fair hare]

Yeah, top one was the one that I used.

[eager warren]

oh I think I got it working

had to make the refiller stack

[pseudo flicker]

yea that's the big thing

you can fill up their ability bars before you start combat

[misty shale]

How do I get the atom that gives my towersr more damge the logner the round goes on?

[pseudo flicker]

that's an equinox bonus

[misty shale]

Alor

[fair hare]

I should probably actually USE it on Vman, which was why I got it. But then I found out having it equipped, I can still use silk traps, but I get 5 traps to everyone else's 3. (He does 5 turtles.)

[lucid lichen]

isn't 32383.1 T like 32Q ? Shouldn't I be doing Multikill here?

[fair hare]

I need to upgrade traps again, though...that was the best I could afford at the time.

[patent summit]

someone who could help me with the 1 star rating cattleprod quest?

[lucid lichen]

What was that? S & P Characters, right? I have a P character

[polar geyser]

@mossy anvil I havent been able to log in since the 28th cause of being on phone etc, did I miss anything big

[burnt merlin]

yeah s and p. capital S and captial P names only supposedly

idk what type of monster doesnt captialize all their names

[fair hare]

lol.

[lucid lichen]

I did, can't remember if it was steam or mobile, but on one of those I couldn't capitalize them. So i have 6 lower case characters. 🙃 Not the P one though

[fair hare]

Could you post your whole AFK popup thingamajig?

[burnt merlin]

yeah thats 32Q

[opaque mural]

1 card in 3 days 🙂

[fair hare]

Does it go by your lowest damage or something?

[burnt merlin]

even if it did, his lowest is 19Q, but idk what the requirements for multikill are damage wise

[fair hare]

We would need 20q for multikill

[burnt merlin]

ah then probably

[lucid lichen]

I think it's HP x2. I think I can push this bit, give me a minute

[fair hare]

(If it went by that.)

[patent summit]

oh awesome, can we meet in world 2 demon 7 server?

[burnt merlin]

oh duh thats right. because its every X* the hp that gets you multikill. 2x the damage, 3x etc

[fair hare]

Let us know - I'm fighting with several characters and multikill, kinda riding the cusp. It's annoying. lol.

[burnt merlin]

so yeah thats almost certainly why

[fair hare]

I kicked one over yesterday (or the day before?) and it immediately doubled my KPH, but it wasn't like a tiny boost where I could see why it happened, if you see what I mean.

[burnt merlin]

i still have amarok armor mid w6

but its w6 stoned armarok, so its all fine

[lucid lichen]

I'm in town

[burnt merlin]

well besides the fact that im not getting multikill

[fair hare]

I have SOME Amarok, mostly without stones, some random shit and one guy is wearing void. lol.

[burnt merlin]

i should probably upgrade to void. but i need more random materials

i have 2 million void bars so thats not the problem

[eager warren]

oh my baby once you figure this game out you go crazy

[fair hare]

I want troll, went to make some today, but I dumped the stuff I need to get it a couple of days ago.😭

[eager warren]

have to wait 10 hrs for the spice NAH! I got the vman talent

[burnt merlin]

i dont have my w4 tab unlocked so i cant get troll

[eager warren]

let's effing go

[burnt merlin]

in sneaking should i just have all my guys push the door at some point? or should i have some people working on it, and some still sneaking to get stuff

[fair hare]

I have all the way through 5, and have the stuff for 6 I think, but haven't gotten around to it.

[burnt merlin]

all i need is for my worship to regen for frigid souls for 4

[patent summit]

anyone with a character starting with s that can help out still?

[lucid lichen]

Okay I went to 20209.4T - 33734.4T damage, still no multikill

[fair hare]

Keep in mind I'm fairly new at sneaking, lol, but I take my best guy with the best tool and put them with people who will certainly die but boost her stealth because of those brown scarf thingies.

[burnt merlin]

so far my guys all have 6% detection chance

[fair hare]

Thanks for testing, though!!!

[fair hare]

But if they have 6% and they are together in a space with people with the brown scarf things (idk what they are called,lol) then it should go down?

[burnt merlin]

im not super high up yet. the only thing i have for anti-detection is smoke bomb

[fair hare]

And mine are all over the map. 🤣 BIG differences. lol.

[fair hare]

On the skill tree, have you raised the level of the tool that opens doors?

[burnt merlin]

yeah my max is 32 right now, and i invest at least a few points everytime i collect

[fair hare]

(lmao - can you tell I'm not in game right now, with all the things I don't know the maes of 🤣 )

Sec

[burnt merlin]

nunchaku's, not to be confused with nunchuks

[fair hare]

What floor are you on?

[burnt merlin]

very low only 5. so im getting my next 2 twins unlocked

slowly

[fair hare]

Are you keeping the rest of them on 4?

[burnt merlin]

no i've got 1 untying and 3 just sneaking for better gains

[eager warren]

I was lucky enough to get 2 level 15 ribbons should I make peach ring 15 or 16

[fair hare]

Ahh, for the unlocking, 4 has better nunchucks (and so does 6)

[burnt merlin]

well i get 3x the jade coins, so i figure investing some time in 5 is better in the long run

[fair hare]

This is my best one, which doesn't help much, because the next door is 200M so I'm just waiting for better tools. lol.

[burnt merlin]

easy just wait like 18 hours for one guy to unlock it

like my guy doing 218 damage to a 25k health door

[fair hare]

Anyway, even numbered floors is a higher quality tool as you go up. Like notice my 60 is below the 59 (I order by power).

[fair hare]

Nah, I'd wait until you get better. And you need them from the 4th floor, not the 2nd.

[burnt merlin]

oh i guess it would actually be somewhere around 100-110 hours for him to beat it down

[hallow arrow]

tfw td slows to a crawl and i just let it run like that for over an hour just to see if i fail or not

[burnt merlin]

well i got my first 👒 from sneaking, so im happy enough with the progress

[fair hare]

(The 10/23/45 etc. are base damage.)

[burnt merlin]

that just gives me the motivation i need to beat down that door and get a charcoal nunchaku

[fair hare]

I have had some really long ones that I stopped. I was happy to see it kept the progress when I gave up. :)

[burnt merlin]

i still need to push my towers levels, they are only at 10-20 so i get kinda stuck after wave 50

[fair hare]

And actually, it's the BOMBS that give others stealth, not the scarves. (Brown scarf things give that player a stealth multiplier.)

[burnt merlin]

i also need to unlock this poisonic elder. but im really enjoy this kraken cosplayer

[hallow arrow]

yea im at 130 for the w6 td and its just non responsive now so im letting it go while i do chores haha

[burnt merlin]

he hard carried me in one defense i did. they kept knocking the boss back as he got pummeled

[fair hare]

Poisonic/Kraken/Void. I got stuck on lots TDs before Void, though I don't do them much. lol, never even got around to the W6 one, I should do that at some point. :)

[fair hare]

Hey, ya never know!!

[burnt merlin]

they arent the best tower defenses ive played, but they werent too bad

[fair hare]

I like some of them better than others. lol. Once I have all my towers up to 50, I'll get back on it. 🤣

[celest quarry]

hey, wich one is the best to go for ? Drop ?

[burnt merlin]

i did personally did drop on my vman, mana on my mages, health+fight on my warriors

[fair hare]

People told me to get the fighting one, the specialized skill for that character one, and then I think drop?

[celest quarry]

Wait it's for each character ?

[fair hare]

You'll end up with lots of 'em, so no worries. :)

[burnt merlin]

each one gets different choices

[fair hare]

Individual. Each has their own set of points.

[celest quarry]

[burnt merlin]

[celest quarry]

I always checked with one char

omg

[fair hare]

I screwed mine up at first because I thought it was for all. Never did get around to fixing, but I have enough points that no longer too concerned, at least. (I'm not very regular about my PO. lol.)

[hallow arrow]

i just let atom collider do my PO lol

[south salmon]

So i just started the quest to defeat the boss 100 times in nightmare mode in world 4 and I ran out of keys is there a setup or anything i should equip or stats i should be looking at to gain alot of keys while afking?

[burnt merlin]

lots of damage, lots of multikill, probably lots of DR

[fair hare]

lol. But I like how if I decide to be faithful to it for extended days, get a lot more points with the shields and stuff.

[burnt merlin]

kill better, kill faster, loot harder

[hallow arrow]

thats true

[south salmon]

for dr should i focus a stat?

i mean i feel like the damage part is enough i one shot them

[burnt merlin]

you can get boss keys afk

[south salmon]

im in world 6 already kinda doing last minute quest

[fair hare]

You can get them in the Colosseum, and you can get them from Mmush, otherwise you have to farm for them.

[burnt merlin]

that too

[south salmon]

got it i was thinking also focusing on afk rate stats would tht be a plus for keys?

[burnt merlin]

more afk rates=more simulated kills or smth

[fair hare]

I do better active with DK, though.

[burnt merlin]

if you're fiending for keys, why not both?

have a good passive, and a good active both farming keys

[fair hare]

Eh, my Bubo kills 9x as many monsters Active AFK than AFK. lol.

[south salmon]

if say im active ig drop rate would be the way to go to then too

[burnt merlin]

that doesnt explain what afk rates does for a person who is asking about it

[burnt merlin]

dk with orb would be pretty good for that. get some DR stuff leveled, and then the orb also gives DR and it has the respawn talent

[fair hare]

Well, my AFK bonuses would have to be super high to match what I get active so far as drop goes, but I suppose it depends on your setup.

[burnt merlin]

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[south salmon]

lmao

thanks!

[fair hare]

I don't have an appropriate emoji for this, except to say that if people give me advice that doesn't come from their personal experience, I'm less likely to listen. But if you just want random stuff from whoever posts, you do you. lol.

[burnt merlin]

your personal experience doesnt always line up with a persons reality

or what they want to know

thats why i try to give advice that could be useful regardless of what they have

i could tell someone to take a level 1k character with 100 trillion damage to go and active farm

[south salmon]

its 50/50 i feel like personal experience might give people another aspect they can look at but also what youre saying @burnt merlin makes sense too ig it just depends on the person i like both inputs its gets me atleast thinking and giving me somewhere to start

[burnt merlin]

yeah thats understandable, i just like a person to have a variety of information, and stuff that directly targets their question(looking at you 9x as many kills active vs afk bubo)

specific builds are dependant on max talent levels and a variety of other factors not everyone meets

[fair hare]

Because you were saying she'd get more with AFK, and I pointed out that wasn't necessarily the case.

[burnt merlin]

so you could have 400 points into some respawn skill, while another only has the basic 100

[burnt merlin]

i said that the afk rate increases how many kills are simulated

thats not the same as saying its straigth up better

[south salmon]

so the orb for dk is at lvl 100 i can get a book to max. Would that increase my drop rate percentage if i get it to lvl 144 skill?

[faint crystal]

i am on kaidis side so that means kaidi won

[burnt merlin]

if a person wants to afk, then having a higher afk gives you better rewards vs having a lower afk rate

[fair hare]

It'll increase your droprate while you are using the orb, because your orb can go higher.

[mossy anvil]

prob not, just some days of event and basicaly gains u dont get while u cant play

[burnt merlin]

if the question is "would afk rate stats would tht be a plus for keys?" and the person wants to afk farm with a character(it wasnt specifically stated but it doesnt hurt to have a character doing it) then from my point of view an explanation about what afk rates does is more useful than "well active farming with bubo gets me 9x the kills"

[fair hare]

Though I do the the knight guy, too, because he helps get the orb higher, faster.

[mossy anvil]

afk gains help with afk farming keys

[fair hare]

Nice skip of everything in the middle there. :)

[polar geyser]

Yeahhhh ngl the lost kattle, meal levels and other bits are kinda sad, but other than that not too bad

Alsooooo, I did need at least 1 character to be offline for 1 week for the achievement

[mossy anvil]

cant u login on website or steam tho? or u cant connect account?

[polar geyser]

I only have my phone atm cause im in London so no pc

I could try website potentially

[south salmon]

yea that's what sucks about not having IOS update out because when im out i cant do a quick check or change some stuff i forgot about its just so inconvenient at times

[burnt merlin]

is this still the update that has been missing since christmas?

[south salmon]

yes!!

[fair hare]

Wow.

[south salmon]

its honestly ridiculous

[burnt merlin]

damn you apple!

[celest quarry]

yeaah 🔥

[fair hare]

Is Apple just pickier or something? Or do they lack the staff? They always seem to take longer. In one game I played sometimes the IOS updates for a side-app I used were sometimes a month later.

[south salmon]

i believe so theyre a bit more anal about updates and changes

[celest quarry]

Wait Chizoar armor unlocks how ? 😮

[fair hare]

I'm in Reddit now, and apparently it's partly due to what it's written in. Maybe it's harder for them to check or something.

[south salmon]

but also some people are saying that lava just gave up on IOS and wants to be mainly more pc but that also wouldn't make sense i feel like he would lose alot of profit from losing ios users

[celest quarry]

❤️ Thanks, i tought it was anvil 4 lmao

[burnt merlin]

from what i hear apple is just being a pain in the for getting the update put through, and that its typical for them

[vocal yarrow]

Was idleon a PC thing or android thing first?

[burnt merlin]

android

[fair hare]

I think you're right about losing profit if he gave 'em up. IOS people are pretty loyal. But he seems more mercenary than that. lol.

[sweet agate]

iOS waiting lobby

[south salmon]

it was android?? i though it first started as pc

[vocal yarrow]

If only he was hiring...

[south salmon]

would be dope to work on a game like this

[burnt merlin]

"Idleon (also known as IdleOn - The Idle MMO) had different release dates for its various platforms, with the earliest being November 9, 2020, for Android, followed by the Web version on November 12, 2020"

[south salmon]

damm didnt know that

[loud crater]

Hey, could somebody dance in w4 on pizza 1, please? I need 5 ppl for Achievement

[south salmon]

yea omw\

i dont think ive done either

[fair hare]

I started this game on Google Play Games Windows, but switched to Steam after about a month. But if I'm spending money, I still go back to Android for a sec because I usually have a little credit there.

[faint crystal]

@mossy anvil

[burnt merlin]

jeez AC really doesnt want to drop anything on par with a 38 power staff

[ebon blaze]

I’m in the same boat

[ebon blaze]

Apple just doesn’t like hotfixes, they treat them like any other update.

[burnt merlin]

a massive pain in the then

[ebon blaze]

If you play strictly iOS you’re probably fine but don’t use web/steam cause it’ll lock you out until the next Apple Store update

[south salmon]

it also doesnt it make it better that it was during the holidays so they were probably on a company wide end of the year break and just now starting to do the 2 week check

[fair hare]

Anyone know of another place to get these? I'm getting other gear that isn't even in the droplist for flombeirges (or whateer they are called), but not the one that is in the drop list.

[somber isle]

how high can I get the drop rate percent of silver obol of pop pop?

[burnt merlin]

there we go. a plant harvested woth 777, now all i need is a trade deal worth 777

[fair hare]

Wiki says "Misc stats can only have a max roll of 1 higher than base." So maybe 3? I've never re-rolled, though. (Also true for Weapons/Skill power.)

[somber isle]

yeah spammed reroll on bronze obol and only got it to +1

[fair hare]

Bronze has a base of 1, silver has a base of 2. So on a bronze one, maybe could get to 2?

[upbeat pendant]

It is the only place to get them.

[fair hare]

But do you lose those when you combine Obols?

[fair hare]

Thanks! sigh. This is going to take a while. These ones aren't even on the drop list:

[somber isle]

got silver to 4%

[fair hare]

Ooh. So I'm misinterpretting or Wiki has it wrong? Or maybe DR isn't considered Misc. and just isn't listed?

And just got 3 of the Dual Pronged lures, also not on the drop list. :(

[flint path]

Anyone have any tips for w3 stuck on my mage char and cant seem to figure out why my accuracy is shit now

[woeful karma]

seeing as lava is updating #💖future-content-blog with new stuff is it wise to assume that he is working on updates again and a new arcade rotation is soon to be on its way?

[woeful karma]

Amarok armour, sub stat
and acc cards?

[flint path]

@woeful karma yea working on lvling acc card in book and have full armor set on char as ive not spent money yet to unlock the armor set thing

[opal needle]

guys, i think the game lied, i don't think these are rare

[fair hare]

!accuracy

[fair hare]

@flint path

[flint path]

Ty

[hallow arrow]

1 hour later looks like i completed wave 140 at w6 but i still have 183b more enemy health left to go through

[fair hare]

For mages, Agility is the secondary/sub stat that Zuiq was talking about.

[fair hare]

Take a break for another hour? 🤣

[hallow arrow]

i dunno ive never forfeited before

but if i do does it save at that wave?

[flint path]

@fair hare any good starter guides ive missed to help out

[fair hare]

When I forfeited it kept mine, but I don't know if that always works or not.

[hollow cave]

the poor soul blasted by the 1Mx higher values, also didn't realize the next 2 god ranks I have increases the cost ~10x off yours

[turbid stag]

It doesn't help that I got god ranks 8, 9 and 10 for free

[hollow cave]

oh did you get a refund on em in a row

[fair hare]

There are a whole bunch of options in #bot-commands - Visit that and type !help (I think that's the command anyway) and it'll give you a list.

[flint path]

Ty

[fast flicker]

why would I be bottoming out my red dust supply when I am 2 ranks higher than the next tier?

[fair hare]

Because orange need 20 red for a cycle, and red is only producing 14 per cycle. :)

They don't want to be all at the same level. :)

[manic moat]

!refinery

[candid scarab]

The refinery will produce salts on a cycle as long as you have the required materials in your chest when the timer hits 0. In order to increase the rank of a salt in the refinery, you have to let your power bar for the salt completely fill before refining.

To stay salt positive, follow this process. Make sure to grab the merit shop upgrades and always rank up Red and Green salts.

[fast flicker]

aaah rats gotcha! but isnt there that merit bonus that makes the cost not scale?

[fair hare]

The merit bonus just changes the scaling. (And that explanation assume you have that bonus, btw.)

[manic moat]

it scales based of POWER per cycle instead of Component costs
for example without the merit you would need 28 red salts to make orange salts
now you need 20 because of the merit

[fair hare]

You are also going to run into the same problem with your blue salt. It needs 12 orange, but orange is only making 10 right now.

[fast flicker]

yeeep this is gonna be fun lol

[fair hare]

lmao - at least you noticed it early!

[fast flicker]

I guess so! haha

there arent really any ways to speed up the refining process either is there?

[fair hare]

There are definitely ways, but based on those levels, you probably can't do some of them yet?

[fast flicker]

I actually have all of them unlocked so far

[fair hare]

Once you get to 22 - which takes a while, ngl - it starts going faster, because each level requires 1M, and never goes up from there.

[fast flicker]

I think my levels are 8 6 4 3 3 1

[fair hare]

I mean, for example, there is a stamp in W5 town. But if your red is only 8, you're probably not that far?

[fast flicker]

didnt mean to rank up the 2nd last one, it was an accidental misclick

I just got to the bamboo guys on w6 where the shaman dude is

[fair hare]

Let me see if I can drag up a list of stuff that helps refinery speed.

[fair hare]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Construction#Bonuses

It's below the Construction Exp Gain bonuses

[fast flicker]

got it thanks!

time to start nolifing that one haha

[mossy anvil]

Sup

[woeful karma]

I mean early armor Smith just means you don't need Amarok on all your players imo
you still want Amarok armor even in w5

it's mainly for the stat from w4 and w5 stones

it provides a lot of acc

[turbid stag]

I hit 1% and 5% rather quickly and got rankups.

[flint path]

@woeful karma ty

[woeful karma]

ello k10~

oh shit congrats on the new role!

[mossy anvil]

@faint crystal

[woeful karma]

just remember
for the acc stat you want to use w4 or w5 stones on a mage for your armor on a dk

[wild fiber]

what do i buy

[woeful karma]

because of it being the substat that gives acc not thr main stat

[woeful karma]

!merit4

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

[wild fiber]

thank you

[woeful karma]

"but requires plenty of nullo salt"

yeah, ain't that the truth

[wild fiber]

oh thats a lot of nullo salt

[woeful karma]

lmao

just wait till you se the eagletwriann trapsn

[wild fiber]

😨

[woeful karma]

eagletertian?
however their spelled lmao

[wild fiber]

no way....

[woeful karma]

and guess who made all 10 in w4

[dense fable]

ofc I get 2 in 2 day
but never saw it before

[wild fiber]

ye i think i gonna buy the connection rank now

[woeful karma]

pmao that's probs smart

[radiant bison]

ggs

[mossy anvil]

long afk claim?

[dense fable]

nopp, it was active DK farming

[wild fiber]

i wont be able to make that set for like another half a year

[mossy anvil]

why active in w7 lol

[woeful karma]

it gets better later

[eager laurel]

drop or draftable?

[radiant bison]

oh shit thats good

[dense fable]

I was farming 2 days ago active dk, and when checked inventory, saw it
and today happened too

[woeful karma]

reduced afk gains?

[mossy anvil]

still better to afk claim

[woeful karma]

[manic moat]

how do i farm cards? whats the best for mobs, skilling, etc?
does drop rate matter? and how can i increase card drop chances more? i know theres that one bubble

[dense fable]

when I can't check PC for very long time, I prefer W7 active, cause my inventory won't be filled XD

[woeful karma]

active ES for mob cards

[eager laurel]

active es iirc

[dense fable]

cause if I afk in other worlds, statues fill up

[mossy anvil]

just filter things out and fix bags

[woeful karma]

run a Dmg DR build

[mossy anvil]

then turn on clusters

[dense fable]

they are all max, but statues will just blow up ( I don't need clusters now )

[woeful karma]

I've long since filtered basedrops

[mossy anvil]

[woeful karma]

even with millions of storage space per slot it builds up rather quick

[manic moat]

and what about boss cards? like if im wasting 30+ keys and not getting a card that kinda sucks

[dense fable]

I can upgrade 1 thing at zenith shop if I farm like 3 hours clusters XD
so I don't bother now

[woeful karma]

vman Dr maxing

[eager laurel]

doesn't it kinda sucks with max crystal mob a day?

[mossy anvil]

is your dr 5

[manic moat]

13

[woeful karma]

lmfao

[mossy anvil]

then u got answer

[woeful karma]

you do not want to farm chaotic and much less nightmare cards yet bro

that's just a waste of keys rn

[manic moat]

so saving my keys, bet

higher drop rate will also increase the numbers of cards dropped as well?

[woeful karma]

yes

[eager laurel]

yes

[woeful karma]

I sometimes get 3 cards per kill with my dr

also vman the boss card killer gainer

[manic moat]

what dr should i start farming boss cards?
that troll skill efficiency card seems really good, but i only have it on base rn

[eager laurel]

up to u still

skill eff is good ye

active es to farm pop obols at giga if ur not done with that

[fair hare]

If I can't do Troll armor, is doing something like Diabolical or Lustre worth it? (I think that's as high as I can go if I can't get Troll, but I'm not sure.)

[manic moat]

forgot obols are a thing ngl

[eager laurel]

if u get bronze reroll for 3 then upgrade it to silver so its 4%

[manic moat]

theres a fucking slider on obols bro

[eager laurel]

yea, imo the earliest way to get dr and for cards maybe get card drop/drop rate cards

quite a bit of dr from personal + family obols

[manic moat]

this as well?

[eager laurel]

ye, reroll silver then upgrade to gold

can also go upgrade to sparkle if u want to farm it

[uneven obsidian]

when upgrading obols, only the one you put in the left slot need to be rerolled

[buoyant bolt]

Where do I find twisty leaves

and how do I get my 3rd subclass

[eager laurel]

w4 map 4 iirc

[steep laurel]

Crystal crabs iirc

[buoyant bolt]

</3

[radiant bison]

afk cc is possible w/ this, but um no autoloot so Itll be semi afk for me

[somber coyote]

just get auto loot

[eager laurel]

if u can ye, or just pure idle like my other acc

[fair hare]

Or filter?

[somber coyote]

filtering literally everything seems a bit much

[fair hare]

From one map?

[eager laurel]

what about coins

[radiant bison]

coins

[fair hare]

Ahhhh. Ack.

[somber coyote]

i don't have enough filter slots xD

[radiant bison]

coins will indeed crash my pc

if I did that

[fair hare]

There's that. I have extras. :)

[eager laurel]

ye just pure auto for me than that hassle

[void viper]

is world 4 boss bugging out common? trying to finish "20 quests" or w.e for the task

[somber coyote]

i don't think he can filter card drops though

[fair hare]

tbh, I didn't know that CC would work AFK. lol. I would do that some nights.

[somber coyote]

the only place i think he can cc is rift

no loot there

[radiant bison]

true

ty for idea

[somber coyote]

yeah it's something i remember from a guy with no autoloot and 100% achievements, he said he did his plunderous mobs in the rift.

[fair hare]

I don't understand how anyone builds multiple Troll Armor sets. Sheesh. (And boy does that Flombeige drop a lot of things not shown on the card.)

[buoyant bolt]

Question,

[somber coyote]

the fact that you're at sky doggies wondering with that comment about troll armor is concerning

[fair hare]

lol.

[buoyant bolt]

While I was on the wiki I saw a chart of the classes and instead of 3 I saw 4 and a guy that looked like a freaking philosopher

Geologist whatever those guys are called

[fair hare]

A couple of days ago I cleaned up my storage chest, including dumping a bunch of cooking shoes - no idea why I had those - and activating all my lure stuff, including gold twine. Today I tried to build Troll armor.

[somber coyote]

that's the beginner class

you're describing journeyman

took me a second to realize what you were talking about

[fair hare]

Ahh, he looks very vaguely like Indiana Jones, lol.

[somber coyote]

yeah that's on purpose

[fair hare]

I was trying to figure out where "geologist" came from, otherwise I wouldn't have noticed.

[somber coyote]

@buoyant bolt when you make a new character just go further than the map where you can select a class and try to pay attention a little

more specifically look around the carrot map

[somber coyote]

yeah his description was kinda cooked

at least he could've said archeologist

[fair hare]

lol. I guess I could have read the description. 🤣 I was looking at a chart with all the classes on it (from the wiki), including classes we don't have yet.

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/File:Family_Tree.png

[somber coyote]

do you think he even bothered to read the reply to his question

[fair hare]

lol, not sure.

[somber coyote]

whatever i did my part.

how's your progress been going?

[fair hare]

That's what I like about this Discord Server, though. Otherwise, how would I have known that Vman might become Aman? lol.

[somber coyote]

you figure out a way to hit the damage you need for that 1x tier

[fair hare]

Nope, I'm still working on that. Armor was going to be part of it. :/

HOWEVER - I did find the fury relic, so 25 more library levels, and working on the ancient version now, for 25 more.

So Bubo's attack is at 30T now. Haven't gotten around to DK/DB/etc. yet.

[somber coyote]

nice

[fair hare]

🤣

[somber coyote]

ES?

[fair hare]

And somehow she's not even wearing HER Amarok set. It's one of them that doesn't have any upgrade stones applied.

No, that is Bubo. (Technically AC, but ya know ya know.)

[somber coyote]

i mean...

[radiant bison]

better gear than mine

[somber coyote]

wearing amarok gear at this point is kinda weird

[radiant bison]

Yall wear gear?

[somber coyote]

well... i have to im endgame...

[radiant bison]

ah

So nothing else to upgrade

[fair hare]

I can't build Troll. I asked a little bit ago if it was worth building Lustre or Diabolical until I can do Troll, and nobody answered.

[somber coyote]

but funny enough 6 of my characters were fully naked on the last map in w7 for the longest time

i just got bored one day an crafted their gear

[fair hare]

Hahaha, that is how my two beginners got clothing.

Boredom.

[somber coyote]

i had a diabolical set on my AC the secret set on my vman... just the secret set, no pants on. a droprate set on my dk and the final full armor set on my db

and they were all vibing in the final map of w7 like that

[fair hare]

:D

[somber coyote]

the rest had nothing

maybe a weapon

[fair hare]

Weapons are good. lol.

[somber coyote]

and yet those 'have nothing' characters were doing so much kph anyway

[celest quarry]

Why does the W4 boss sometines bug and you can't hit him ? Like there is no hit box, happened 2 times now in 10 runs

[fair hare]

He's just buggy.

[somber coyote]

because it bugs out.

[celest quarry]

...

[somber coyote]

won't bug out once you do the merit for it

just get rid of his minigames

[celest quarry]

wich one ?

[somber coyote]

the 20 minigames one

[fair hare]

I was so happy to be rid of the minigames. lol.

[celest quarry]

oh i'm doing it right now

[fair hare]

After that, then you can just hit him.

[celest quarry]

Nice !

[somber coyote]

yeah he won't bug out once you complete that

but for now sometimes you enter and cant damage him

[celest quarry]

😂

[fair hare]

I hated that quest, though. Even my unclassed beginners with no gear or weapon could one hit him.

So literally 20 runs.

(Plus bugs. lol.)

[celest quarry]

Yah don't have enough keys now

[fair hare]

HIt the Col :)

[somber coyote]

@fair hare do you have your idleon toolbox? im curious

[celest quarry]

Hes bugging out so much for real x)

[fair hare]

lmao. I do, haha, but have never actually let anyone see it. 😳 🫣

[somber coyote]

oh

you can disable total gems and bundle info if that's your concern

[fair hare]

Nah, I'm concerned because I am bad at a lot of parts of this game. lmao.

[somber coyote]

that's ok

we were all bad at it when we started off

and some are bad at it at the end of w7

[fair hare]

Hahaha

[somber coyote]

the things i've seen could shock you

the things nejo has seen could shock you

he gave up checking what people do since a guy told him he never saw the cog tab while half way in w7

[fair hare]

omg.

[somber coyote]

it's not even too terrible

your account that is

the cog tab is kinda crazy

for that guy in w7

[fair hare]

Hahaha, I can't even imagine. And that is so timelocked.

[fair hare]

I started on April 30th, and spent just under 50 cents a day, and I feel like I got a lot more value for those 50 cents than I have in a lot of games.

[somber coyote]

i can see a bunch of things to fix

it's notedtypenejo

[mossy anvil]

Its me

[fair hare]

Ya think? 🤣 I go to fix one thing and get sidetracked and four days later remember, oh yeah, I was going to work on X. So I start again, and do it again. lol.

This game is like one giant rabbit hole for me a lot of the time.

[somber coyote]

your first part of refinery is outlevelling your second part by alot

guess you started putting materials for last 3 salts late

kinda like me

[finite viper]

should i put a t15 ribbon on canoli?

[somber coyote]

absolutely not

[finite viper]

what should i put my t15s on

[fair hare]

The biggest problem with that I think is that I don't take care of trapping and souls well, so the second page will stop without me realizing it. Been even worse with Doot.

[somber coyote]

you're almost there with the worshipping part and the trapping part is easy to fix

[faint crystal]

if you have yumi peach ring, then that

[somber coyote]

hold onto it for peach ring

[finite viper]

what should i put the other 3 t15s on

[hollow cave]

do you have the 35% double ribbon upgrade from the hole

if you do not I would say it's arguably a choice to hold them until you get that and then use them on Yumi

[finite viper]

is that from conjuere?

[red relic]

Gambit i think which is cave 14

[celest quarry]

Should i wait to get to world 6 to put upgrade stones on my Chizoar armor ?

[manic moat]

i dont get it

[burnt merlin]

do you have anvil tab 6?

[manic moat]

no im talking about the candies

[burnt merlin]

oh you didnt get them?

i assume they would be 1 time purchases that you get like the gems

[balmy crystal]

lategamers had too much 1hr/2hr candy to the point they wouldnt use them at all

[red relic]

They are at the bottom of the w4 anvil tab

[manic moat]

thanks
what are the recipes for the other 2 stuff?

[balmy crystal]

5 gems each and thats it

[manic moat]

this game is buns!

[balmy crystal]

well actually a bit more

[red relic]

There is at least one lettuce on those buns

[manic moat]

i dont even have the materials, im just unlocking more recipes and tabs lol

kattle armor looks tuff

[safe wraith]

Hello everyone, any tips for the best 6 pets team for unlocking new spices? (I have unlocked all pets)

[shell crane]

Can I get the hat rack but for other premium items? or is it just hats that get that.

[mystic vigil]

there's the gallery in w7 for premium nametags

I don't think there's any other systems like that for now

[shell crane]

alright, Just wanted my og trophy to apply to my other characters

[mystic vigil]

Yeah the gallery does that too actually

[hollow cave]

Hats, Nametags, and Trophies are all able to be globally applied, Hats are applied in full with bonus per hat via hatrack, Nametags are applied in full (or more than full with dupes) via the gallery in W7, and Trophies are applied in varying amounts from 30%-250% via the gallery in W7, the gallery also has a multiplier that further boosts both trophies and nametags

[hoary ermine]

question

currently deciding which character i should make for 7th class some people are saying that Secret class isnt great to do on 2nd page?

[indigo stratus]

Eh, its generally recommended as 7th or 8th.

[strange hollow]

im confused i stil only have the one upgrade tab at the post office

[spring owl]

im getting around 50 card per 1 hr candy, is it optimal? or it can be better?

[indigo stratus]

Def can be better. Mining speed, eff, card drop rate, afk gains, etc

[indigo stratus]

You unlock the second upgrade tab via doing orders iirc, forget the exact number

[strange hollow]

ahh i see

makes more sense xD

[stuck reef]

Anytips for me when i need to claim my souls in W3 with the apparatus. Should I change cards for skill eff? should I do anything else. 10M for godshardlegs (the ones from W6) will be a long journey at my pace lol

[mossy anvil]

skill eff cards+ soul gum food

and food effect set

[stuck reef]

it'll still be a journey, but itll be better lol

[wispy summit]

youll need to unlock everything in the 2nd orders tab apparently

[strange hollow]

gaaaah damn

that's a lot of orders

[wispy summit]

yeah mine didnt show up until very much later

lol maybe its a skill issue but im towards the end of w6 lol

[somber coyote]

depends

did you even do any statue farming?

if yes then you should have pens and should just start clicking

[wispy summit]

yeah i did that eventually HAHA

[autumn sinew]

I know folks were saying that meals aren't broken, but I've had all of my kitchens making this for the last couple days and the number hasn't changed at all?

[indigo stratus]

They work fine, just take progressively longer to notice at higher numbers

[autumn sinew]

Just surprised I'm not seeing any movement at all on them

[trim field]

So with the Armor Set Smithy. Do I get the bonuses all the time for the sets I complete?

[sleek pollen]

you proly making e85 or less an hour

[autumn sinew]

Seems like it, but then I'm surprised I got this high at all

[sleek pollen]

when you can't see the number move, so can't get another level on the meals it just means you change to next one until it's very slow for another level then change again, then repeat that forever

[autumn sinew]

.... I accidentally dumped all my blood marrow levels

I'll see myself out lol

[indigo stratus]

Just max food lust

[trim field]

Weird. I saw Gold Helm on my ATK drop list, and I saw it on the ground. I picked everything up (I click and swipe back and forth a few times to be safe) and I can't find it anywhere.

[hoary ermine]

This might be a dumb questions but since I have sheep do I have to equip any of the big alchemy bubbles or dare they always active?

[sleek pollen]

[sleek pollen]

they always active so no need to equip them

[modern lantern]

does al my character need to complete the questline in W4 or only 1?

[trim field]

THAT'S what the sheep does!

[sleek pollen]

only one I reckon, since it's like an account wide quest

[barren hemlock]

Umm I have no idea how these got here. But my question is, can I get even more of them here? And if so, how

[mossy anvil]

achievements

[barren hemlock]

ahhhhhh

[crystal pollen]

is there a good breeding guide anywhere, i'm in world 6 now and I still have barely accomplished anything in breeding because i can't progress much further in the arena and getting new pet types takes ages with my bad luck and slow egg rate

ah nevermind i'm dumb, it's in a pin

[balmy crystal]

was so close to 10k

[harsh vale]

perchance does anyone wanna kill king doot mini boss?

[buoyant bolt]

I figured it out

On a "completley" unrelated note i am out of time candies

[full reef]

how does the fart cloud on bubo work, does it just randomly teleport somewhere after sometime or its an inconsistent thing

[buoyant bolt]

So I fucked it up actually

I gotta do it all over again

[trim field]

For my 8th char, if I already have a Journeyman, what should I go for?

My first 6 are one of each of the subclasses

[buoyant bolt]

Dizz just a question

Do I have to do the journeyman thing again if I gave the rock on a b barbarian char

;-;

Also from what I know probably another jour to maximize profit

[trim field]

Yes, you can only create a journeyman on a char w/o a class.

I also learned the hardway

[buoyant bolt]

I am suffering

What shops sell hotdogs

[trim field]

W1 shop

[buoyant bolt]

Only those two..?

Fml

When can I buy more

[trim field]

Resets every day, it tells you at the bottom hwo long until reset.

There should be like 6k hotdogs

[trail sparrow]

What should I use my cosmic time candy on?

[full reef]

u could possibly just active farm the hotdogs with on wode board or gigafrog for pop obols as a side

thats assuming your dr is pretty good for actual consistent drops

[full reef]

personally i get an extra dk for the double construct set up in the future and bb/db for cooking and later grinds

[indigo stratus]

Nothing unless you can craft gcakes or have fractal island

[lilac heron]

Can the egg shell genetic ability make your pets invisible

[rose blaze]

any mage could help us in summoning king doot? key server 3

[rich fable]

Still need help?

[full reef]

what post office uupgrade should i get for bm, i maxed out the mana for cd reduction but idk what else, i also only have 1 page of upgrade rn

[rose blaze]

im good ty

[rich fable]

These mfs be the hardest part of w3 to farm kills on

[full reef]

r u tryna farm for multikill or im missing something that these things drop

[rich fable]

I am farming kills for vman

W3 is all that I have left to do

[full reef]

i legit just threw 3 chars in there icl

2 bb and the maestro

[rich fable]

I have time so idc tbh

[full reef]

ngl im so tmepted to green stack the mirrors since they drop a lot and its just 1 platform so bubo could go crazy there but my tenteyecle aint good enough

[arctic yarrow]

all of them

[opal needle]

🪦

ok……

[gaunt dragon]

How does Flag score work for the rift?

I One shot every mob but the flag score just jumps between 0 and 1 all the time

[wild fiber]

whats the best class to do royal worm questline?

[raw prism]

When can I get these captains

[opal needle]

W6 jade emporium

[steady plank]

I think I progressed to much without focusing important setups for progression

I see pepole here with 30m range dmg in level like me

[true hamlet]

that can be a good thing or a bad thing

[arctic yarrow]

they might have a certain pet

[oak salmon]

is there any op boosts or something to breeding bcs i hard stack 600m hp spice

[somber depot]

Cluster farmin eh

Must'ev sucked

[somber depot]

Gimmie golem, I need to hit 10b crystal

[opal needle]

i thought u had it

[somber depot]

Nop

[opal needle]

what do you NOT have

[light vortex]

Peak orb timing

Ran out at 179

[arctic yarrow]

mine was given to me

[arctic yarrow]

did u equip speed pot?

faster running speed to run to those platforms and kill faster

[light vortex]

Yeah I probably shoulda thought about that before but thanks for the tip ^^

[patent summit]

do all of the talents in the fourth tab provide account wide bonuses or only when specifically mentioned?

[arctic yarrow]

when specifically mentioned

[patent summit]

gotcha thanks

And just wanted to make sure, does this actually work to increase breedability multi faster?

[wild fiber]

got so many speed to flags
but what i really want is build rate 😭

[compact umbra]

im trying to get more genes, i have the eggs but is there a way to get more of this quickly?

[somber coyote]

there isn't

[compact umbra]

oh my god

[wild fiber]

i wonder if anyone fully locked out the cooking level w4 quest by fully level up every single upgrade possible even the no upgrade one and didnt start the quest on any of their character

[half hull]

!merit4

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

[mossy anvil]

pow10 gravel

[somber coyote]

still slow

[mossy anvil]

but faster slow

[somber coyote]

holy the faster slow kickin into overdrive

[mossy anvil]

[somber coyote]

im bored man, what do you do when you have nothing to do?

[compact umbra]

hey anyone who has done breedability for tome/ww can i have some advice on how to speed it up

[somber coyote]

it's fast already if you're at the point to be doing it for tome

just do 1 pink pet per slot til VII

[compact umbra]

...

[somber coyote]

mine went by in no time when i did it

and i didnt even use the ww

not saying you can't

[hollow cave]

work on Farming crops and Crop Scientist boosts if you haven't

I have all 280 crops and some extra multis which is like +8200% boost to the Pet speed things (which I think affects both shiny and breedability)

[mossy anvil]

Play Dota

Read book

[somber coyote]

gg

the advice to play dota or read a book is doomed

[opaque mural]

why

[mossy anvil]

coz he cant play and read

[celest quarry]

How important is it to get pop obles from the frogs ?

[mossy anvil]

top priority

[celest quarry]

So should i put one char there and farm them ?

[mossy anvil]

dk + family, and roll them for extra %

[somber coyote]

you roll them as soon as you get them btw, cheaper that way.

[mossy anvil]

!weeklyboss

[candid scarab]

Want the W2 Weekly Boss kill strategies? Of course you do. You can head to https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1157094107085283428 and read the pins.

Want to know the strategies for future weeks too? Check out the Google Sheet made by Roronoa Zoro and DiamondDoge.

[mossy anvil]

what we getting chat

spelunking or prisma bubble

or amber gain

[arctic yarrow]

spelinking exp

[unique bolt]

What is the setup?

[lyric tiger]

how should I farm for w2 statues?

[pine gale]

The Orb

-# dk orb

[stone shadow]

dk crystal build 🔥 🤑

[radiant bison]

mathematically how close am I to level 150?

[stone shadow]

29 levels?

[radiant bison]

No like % wise

xp goes up exponentially so

[stone shadow]

yea idk im still holing

[radiant bison]

like

[stone shadow]

i still dont know a thing in hole

[radiant bison]

The Class EXP required from 499 to 500 is the same as from 1 to 434.

the problem is I need to understand this to do said math

(10+121^1.6 + 3*121) *1.13^121 + 1.13^(101) vs (10+150^1.6 + 3*150) *1.13^150 + 1.13^(130)

[stone shadow]

yea u figure this out cuz i cant read anything

[radiant bison]

damn im only like 1/50th of the xp

or 2%

xp/plant goes up the more value they produce atleast

[steady plank]

Give me best shaman setup

[radiant bison]

um wtf

[true hamlet]

quite simple right?

[radiant bison]

honestly it was after I tried it

[true hamlet]

great, cos that's basically as easy as lava's formulas get

[radiant bison]

I can put it into sorta 3 parts

[radiant bison]

(base value + lategamescaling^1.6 + 3*midgame scaling) * overall scaling^level + minimum scaling^(0 or level - 20 whichever is bigger)

[radiant bison]

what in the drugs is this I get part of it but like why not combine the 2 and 1.25

[stone shadow]

wdym?

[true hamlet]

another easy formula you should see the expanded drop rate formula

it's beyond horrific

[radiant bison]

why I asked this is bc this could be simplified lmao

[ebon blaze]

Currently have 800ish gems. Should I get card slots or the first bleach cauldron?

I have crystal printer already

[radiant bison]

only either 300 ish hp more or 4300 hp more till I can do 2nd summoning boss

[stone shadow]

how do u beat opponents who have a ton of hp and dmg more than u?

[true hamlet]

hmm?

[stone shadow]

js get a ton of mana so u can spam at their face?

[true hamlet]

I have like 5q damage and the enemy has 5e23

[true hamlet]

pretty much yeah

[radiant bison]

I dont have cyan yet so I cant brute force it that much

[stone shadow]

im in like 3 battles and my stats need to be higher than them at least 1 or 2

[radiant bison]

Once u unlock yellow and then purple things ramp

[mystic vigil]

my 70T ass is pushing against QQ hp mobs on endless don't ask about how that goes in teal 10 though

[radiant bison]

red also lets ya ramp bc they give ya more kb

[true hamlet]

hmm

[radiant bison]

instant gaming soon

[true hamlet]

so I have 5.7Q damage and they have 652QQQ HP

[stone shadow]

how long does it take for u to beat it 😭

[true hamlet]

I wonder how it will go

this card kinda makes it take like 20 minutes

since if I damage them, I get annihilated too

[mystic vigil]

it's not that bad because it ramps up with stuff like seeing red and hundredaire

fair play is an absolute bitch

[true hamlet]

it's pretty bad

[radiant bison]

btw for bosses its a single mob

[stone shadow]

cant u unable the fairplay card?

[true hamlet]

but for things like fast forward card, 3 seconds to beat?

[radiant bison]

so 2mil hp means id need 1600 hits

[mystic vigil]

haha... you wish

[radiant bison]

atom collider tomarrow or so

I got 80 atoms

[rancid glen]

Hello sol been awhile

[radiant bison]

~20/day

[mystic vigil]

sup

[rancid glen]

Whats ur prog now?

[mystic vigil]

got full godshard set yesterday and pushed like 80 endless summoning waves thanks to teal

[stone shadow]

how to rescue more chars?

[mystic vigil]

kinda wanna progress my farming a little bit more before pushing w7 more

[rancid glen]

Thats acutally not bad

But how far back is ur summoning man

[radiant bison]

equip kunai on a char(you havnt dropped one yet, also u cant drop one when pushing door)

[rancid glen]

Im at 128 cuz im just lazy to do some more lol

I think i gotlike 10-20 more waves in me

[stone shadow]

does the first floor drop kunai?

[radiant bison]

2nd floor does, unequip the nunchuck

thats for pushing to unlock new zones...

[mystic vigil]

i'm at 9/12 teal and 286 endless summoning rn I think? I can probably beat round 300 but idk how many more after that

[stone shadow]

what are the other loots?

[rancid glen]

The only thingpreventing me rn to full god sharding all
My characters isbreezy soul

[rancid glen]

Oh i was not familiarwith ya

[radiant bison]

for floor 1, kinda mid, the smoke bomb is ok for starting out though ig

[rancid glen]

Hollon wasnt you like w6 less that 20 smth days ago?

[mystic vigil]

I spent like 3 hours getting round 170 on w6 td last weekend

[mystic vigil]

yeaaa I gamed a lil bit 😅

[rancid glen]

I js got to wave i think 100? Cause i was lazy lol

Might be getting romance scammed from a person in this server

[mystic vigil]

[radiant bison]

That acc is sus regardless, people who have that exact style of username on steam tend to be scammers 9/10 times

[radiant bison]

yea this reeks of art scamms ive run into, using their "problems" as an excuse especially w/ the random contacting

[stone shadow]

pretty wierd profile pic for someone who had someone close passed away

[frail pagoda]

Any advice for Bamboo forest pet battle?

[radiant bison]

the nuke

gamble harder

I beat it w/ this w/o alchemic or flashy lmao

[frail pagoda]

bet, was not sure if that would work and redoing some pet power levels (just rebreeding) and wanted to ask folks lol

[radiant bison]

as long as ur 10k+ on like the frontmost pet youll probably be fine

[true hamlet]

Get 1m pet power and don't worry about it

[radiant bison]

didnt this get nerfed/changed?

[true hamlet]

?

[radiant bison]

yea

I forgot how old this guide im using is, its pre w6

[frail pagoda]

that did it LOL

[radiant bison]

only use it bc its good for pets and thats it

[true hamlet]

Construction hasn't really changed

[radiant bison]

yea we got other sources of speed if needed

[stone shadow]

what should i invest?

[radiant bison]

village magic first

[stone shadow]

the breeding for that guide is alright r? cuz breeding rarely changes

[radiant bison]

theres a proper guide image that youll need

[radiant bison]

YEAP thats why I use it

[stone shadow]

but isnt there w7 spices now

[stone shadow]

pls image?

[radiant bison]

as a more passive player 🤤

[fair hare]

Today I'm a prime example of why you shouldn't be neglectful/lazy. I haven't been building heavy water, so I'm sitting here waiting on CC over and over - can get it 2-3 times an hour - to try to get enough heavy water to upgrade everyone's skulls. <<headdesk>>

[stone shadow]

also what do i do here? am i softlocked 😭

[fair hare]

There's a schematic to open that up. :)

[true hamlet]

There should be a toggle to expand bars

[stone shadow]

oh wait i forgot i didnt give any other villagers opals other than the 1st one

[radiant bison]

Im trying to find it

opal enthusiam is good firstp oint regardless

#1303761365273415700 message

@stone shadow this is more or less the same as the image but in text form(I know you struggle w/ reading comprehension for paragraphs(this can be said for most idleon players though) so gl 🫡 )

[fair hare]

Is this the one? There are a few of these out there: #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[radiant bison]

A dif one than I was thinking, this one ignores those w/o doot though

[fair hare]

Yeah, by a few out there I meant different versions. Hmm.

[stone shadow]

what are these

[radiant bison]

The one I was thinking of has #s written on it w/ an * on the dootless

[radiant bison]

mithril the next bucket thingy

[radiant bison]

the thing thats currently purple for ya

[stone shadow]

whats the opal guide? 1 for every other villagers but 2 for explorer?

[opal needle]

why is everyone in my lab connected to one guy 💔

[radiant bison]

a bit more complicated

[stone shadow]

is it also in the hle guide?

[radiant bison]

"x- Few points into villager 1, but make sure you have at least 1-2 opals coming in/saved for villager 2.
10-x (
10-10 (save up 2 to 4ish for conjuror, i will continue to write 2, but you may have few more. If you dont have conjuror points, you may get some more here)
10-10-2 to 4
20-10-2 (make sure you will have a few by the time you unlock Measure)
20-10-2-10
20-20-2-10
20-20-10-10
20-20-10-20
30-20-10-20
30-20-10-30 OR: Rest into Explorer, get C9 faster, reset opals once C9 is unlocked, then all Measurement till M9 minimum (or M10) and check your landen wishes, reset opals, then all Engineer, reset, all confjuror, why? Read:
Once last cave is reached we will do a Lamp reset here!" - hole guide

yea its in there

[opal needle]

no one answers my questions anymore

[radiant bison]

i just quoted it here for ya

[radiant bison]

connection range

[opal needle]

thx.

[radiant bison]

Sorry I was busy trying to help swagman

[radiant bison]

basically ur connection range is that big lmao weird things happen

[opal needle]

oh its not just you, even for the past few days my messages feel invisisble 😂

[radiant bison]

I think half my guys connect to the middle guy

[opal needle]

i was thinking: is this what its like to be in W7???

you have to think for yourself now???

[radiant bison]

what world you in?

[radiant bison]

dang

yea as u can see

some weird jank is happening

[opal needle]

yeah

[radiant bison]

see what I mean

[opal needle]

my guy just looks like hes doing an ultimate attack

[radiant bison]

lmfao

[opal needle]

oh shoot, goharut only works when in lab, not divinity, i twisted it around and got ONLY divinity exp

[radiant bison]

rip

I just keep my bubo/ac rightmost

bc the xp outways the effort for the line width

[opal needle]

yeah

[radiant bison]

I hit everything anyways

like thrice over

[opal needle]

XDDDD yeah, i remember when getting more line width from cooking

it connected me to the bad node

and messed up my alchemy XDDDDDD

[stone shadow]

why do i feel like ive seen ur name somewhere before