#midgame-chat-w3๐งw4๐ฎ
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so dont do onyx quest = cant onyx?
Idk i could onyx statues without onyx quest but for some reason my statues guy was already onyx
mayeb a bug
you cant onyx em before quest (unless one char has done it)
mayeb u already did and forget
No i once bought 20k statues from gem shop and my guy became onyx
the 9 other chars can still do it after youve done the quest afterall
only way thats possible is if those statues were power statues
I would remember if I grinded 20k power statues
Nope books
(still a bad investment for gems)
what goal next
More onyxing
which
do NOT do w3 statues till w6 statues is done
Why?
feasty eh
u sure 
Also i asked if that was normal for statue guy to become onyx after that purchase but nobody knew
Yes exactly 3 months ago it was

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bro isn't silly
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I'm raising my Boulder, frozen and party towers. What are decent lvs for those before start doing more td
What lvl are they right now
I would say 30+ are good lvls early then 50+ for mid something and 80+ for 100+ waves
Also you will use pasonic elder tower later than boulder
Boulder is 47, party is 13, and frozen is 23
Get party tower up
Haven't gotten acess to that yet
Boulder is nice till you get poisonic elder tower 50+ so you are good
Been working on salts I just got green salts semi automated but not perfect.
i believe 65+ is enough for 100+
It is but just 100+ is not enough later
i forget that i have to do td 
Also me sleep
we go for 200+ but later
Gn
Just a kind person but I deleted it. I'm sorry
i smell trouble
Which class for him yall reccomend?
best way to get trap exp on all chars? i put full skill exp stuff on vman and put exp turtles for everyone on the trap machine, but it doesnt feel like its helping much
Your best bet is vman afaik
I'm very sorry
hey, be careful of that one snowman that always force u to get a role in #costume-closet
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Wait wait have been trolling me. I thought I serious offended u
bro doesn't understand 

what is recommended drop rate and difficulty to farm the scarf
any
w3 keys are going to be your most abundant at pretty much every point
just do whatever and prayge, you'll get scarf drops like candy at some point
just colo
i did 100 runs on the easiest difficulty and got 0
usually its 250
zzz
but well, u get quite alot of keys per dk colo
what's that
you can try some chaos if you want it to be less runs per scarf
idc how long it takes i just want the best shot at the drop
that's not specific enough lol
gambling time
pretty sure easy is that then
yea you can just look at the rates on the wiki and do simple math
doing less runs for a lower scarf drop rate huh
1 in 1000 vs 1 in 313, but rather than being 3x the keys it's 5x
The scarf is a pain to get is Divine one,that tooth drop feels more rigged than wings
Have you not farmed good yet gma?
u might be able to get half a run for the w7 colo trust
I haven't gone for personal stacks yet but my beanstalk besides cakes is done and this is my bank
I should probably get to like 200k kebabs
the rest dont' seem too useful
(colo ones I mean)
gstack kebabs
Hp helps get bigger prints on warriors
Nah gstack is overkill. Get a couple max inventory stack size kebabs
Gloves?
yea
for lvls? or gstacks
Currently gstack book statue
gross
how much does the gstack dmg thing even add
thought it was just something to keep endgame people busy but not that useful
2% lmao
4% with a lab gem iirc

it is
A gstack gets me close
My speed is quite high
In getting book statue I think I've got about 40m speed starues

you can push golem afk
I've gone from 25 to 28 in the past 2 weeks
12hr check in periods
You gotta push a button
Iโm struggling at 30 or 31 right now
not any different than all the other "afk" stuff
like collecting treasure, etc...
how do people get talents to level 250+, I see pictures like that for deathbringer skills but mine are just in the low-mid 100s from library
sounds rough
Yes but I mean I farm statues bc I open game and let run woth no input
In comparison sanctum afk is useless without me clicking button
!maxlevels

Talent library books
!maxtalentz
breh
Struggling to find out how to raise the level of your talent points to hit that next threshold? Trickzbunny and jiof made this fancy sheet that will let you know what you're missing and how to get it!
Struggling to find out how to raise the level of your talent points to hit that next threshold? Trickzbunny and jiof made this fancy sheet that will let you know what you're missing and how to get it!
Where's hotair
oh great now there are 2
I demand he make a pinned commands list on each channel
@hot air
ashley so powerful the bot answers her before she even asks
nuh the bot answered itself
460? christ
some specific ones start getting really wild
everyone mostly at 450 with some 453
like ES portal, you'll have 2 of them and both will have like 300+ kill count on them
"everyone" mf im still at 390, waiting on equinox to get lvl 400
sorry
maybe more at this point

bought my first and last pristine today
4/22 btw
damn

what abt dr
theres a prisitne for that?
i thibk
uhh
feels like there's a pristine for everything
dont care
sigma
ion remember which onez i have
just click on them
total dmg

and dont feel like getting on mobile
so productive,
very, finished shit early
Can anyone help me out with a few questions
yes, no, 12, 37
i premoved my answers
Understood soldier
So the thing is i saw recently that idleon is available on phone
I just did the mistake of making my account with my steam id i believe
maybe
And theres no way to transfer my data is it
no, not a mistake
android yes, ios no
Really?
yea android has "log in with steam" option
can login for steam in android
I read theyre both out of the question
ios is a walled garden, apple's fault
Oh thats absolutely perfect then
Because i would be going on a vacantuo for about a month and i wont have my pc
yea just try now
So if i bring my andorid i wont miss the gains?
should be seamless
don't leave your steam client open when trying to crossplatform though
vacation in october seems weird
always cloudsave and close completely
mobile overflow deleting my entire accounts progress
Going to Australia so ita basically summer there
i can feel that they arent in thr range of an overflow
What
it's a joke
what world are u in rn
I just got to 4 yesterday
basically once your account is a few months old, when you do certain stuff like trapping, your whole stack of critters will yeet into the void if you collect a certain amount
then ur okay dw
It took my so much longer than it would be normal tho
Because i thought i needed 120k kills on the neptune eyes or whatever theyre called
But i guess not i dont know what that number even was there for
Multikill or deathnote i dont lnow
I still dont understand some mechanics in this game that well
yea for sure but still funneh
past a certain point in the game most features become basically unplayable on mobile
Why is that
cause lavaflame2 is coding this game
And when does that happen
not any time soon for you so youll be just fine lmao
are set bonuses like 40% skill xp from chizoars a multi or is it added on top of other boosts
Im guessing world 6 or 7 then
Pun not intended
well 7 isnt here
Oh
and its like world 6 mid gamer area
I saw the world 7 question channel so i thought its here and i just didnt see it
Anyways thats that now

Im also kinda struggling with resource gathering
With all the different bonuses in this game i just feel like im being really stupid and missing a critical boost
I dont have enough mining catching or chopping efficiency to really get the stuff i need
most likely bubbles i fear
alchemy hard carries basically every single aspect of your account
Thats fair but
Its frustrating
The ram pet would be really damn good about now
And also the bubbles are such a grind
keep gambling.
do you have 2 printer slots?
And to get the materials i need to fish
I do actually i bought the crystal printer
If were on this topic i would want to know what else i should buy from the gem shop aswell
I didnt worry about skills much at all, just pushed my divine knight to w6 while the others did lab,div,bravery
feed your bubbles with the printer and youll just passively lvl bubbles with that
golden anvil, card slots and food slots
all of those are basically must buys early on
shortly after getting to w6 I got voidman and now its so much easier to get those early resources
yea this is also always an option
the "optimal" one or whatever
fuck everything and just skip to w6 lmfao
amarok gets you to w5, then effaunt and some time candies gets w6 unlocked
hiii ashley 
Can you give me some tips on just rushing to w6 then?
focus divine knight and have the rest do miscellaneous stuff
squire, you get the upgrade like 3 maps in w4
4
demon geuinie map in w4
Also i wanna know what i put on my dk when i push
Also what do you exactly mean my misc stuff on the other
since you just got to w4, its basically just push dk and send all the others to lab to get some boosts for it
misc stuff is lab cooking skilling later divinity etc
get the others to the 4th map in w4 as well for their class upgrade
lab and then w5 stuff are time sinks, you can work on them now then go back to other stuff when its all a lot easier
sup
make the best weapon for him as you can and use the upgrade stones from the highest town shop you can
for the record if youre gonna be afk pushing BB (barb elite class) is better
its just better to swap to something else than bb when you reach w5 tho
sup-porter
where do I find class xp boosters to push to lvl 700 a character? lvl 630 feels slow already
who is porter
wait youre not ashley...
yes
Oh yeah why is dk better for pushing
hi anyways, how's the grind
If bb opens portals faster
a lot of them are in the master class upgrade trees
great respawn skill
justice can boost your class exp
Oh i see
do towers work for db's wraith form?
I am progressing WW now, I see it has XP potential
does DB give class XP too if I push it?
DK and ES open them faster while playing actively
I see thank you
any time
one of the biggest ones is getting medallions for w6 mobs because it'll affect crystals exp on that map also
I got fractal island unlocked
Im extremely new to w4 mechanics i havent watched any guides yet
Time to waste my candy amiright
lab
oh, then I gotta reach Samurai with WW, shesh
What does the lab do
you just get certain account wide (usually) bonuses by linking to them by sacrificing a character
Lots of boosts
any w6 map works from what I've read, because the medal will affect crystals that spawn on that map
you just put your characters there and you will get lots of benefits
w5 lets you get these bonuses without putting your characters in the lab tho
oh cool, ty
so for example if you get to river spirits, you'll just do grinding on that map
until you get to a higher map
you will still get way more exp at samurai compared to spirit sprouts
So the plan is unlock dk and all the other upgrades, slap every single one in the lab and start pushing?
crystal exp is based on the mob of the map
oouuu ok TIL
!crystal
The Crystal Monsters are rare mini-boss spawns that have a 1 in 2,000 chance to spawn whenever you actively kill an enemy. It has 15x HP, 30x Exp, 2.5x accuracy required, and does 2.5x more damage than monsters in your current area.
thought it was just a set amount way higher than all mobs
yup lmao
What about doing the other stuff
lab has an upgrade fairly early on that doubles your kill count so def worth going for
at least once you unlock w6 on WW its pretty easy to reach samy, just use TotM to get their medal
thats kinda it untill w5
mfs in w6 with ww meanwhile ive been stuck in w3 
get 400 talents first
for ww?
when you Reach W5, you will unlock gods
a god will help you to keep the Lab bonuses active, even if the character is not in the lab, so the character is free to go to other activities
for ac
well good thing im not talking about AC 
I pushed W3 ---> W4 Tempest mode in 1 day
neglect ur ww is the way of life
im pretty sure im early w4 anyway tbh
i have like 500 of the moon candy things so im just waiting till w7 for more dust bonuses
already got the arcade bonus doubled as well
oh, will there be buffs for master classes in W7?
lava teased it
so far tome is confirmed to have bonuses for the master classes
ah good, I will stop pushing ww then for now
sep 18th on #๐future-content-blog
What does worship power stat even do
more souls
but im sure a lot of the new w6 and 7 stuff will give even more bonuses anyway
Ty
maybe even the gaming update 
So literally put gear on dk and everyone else on lab
and when DK reached Map 4 to get his class, put DK in lab, and somebody else push map 4
so everybody gets his class upgrade
you can even use candy if you want to do it faster ( I did that back then )
I usually saved my candies cause they are "important"
giving +15% movement speed for under 200% movement speed
can't use these shi-
spam them as fast as you can if you need it for pushing
so real
big news for the 0 players in w6 that dont have at least 2000% movement speed
me
get your movement speed up
turtle
dark lanterns when w7 comes out 
ah ye, that's true
give me statues
hi nejo
Dark lanterns candy with DB or WW?
hemlo 
Guide to using candy?
db
with high dr
there is no guide, ask for tips in chat if not sure about candy
for unlocking classes I recommend candy
my right side of brain is hurting, do u have any cure
lobotomy
Its just i saw a video mention shortly you should use one of the squire skin for extra defense for survivability before popping it, im just curious to know if theres other things like this
Im guessing maybe food is one of them? And if so which one
great
Meow
im poor
put on you some dmg potions and food to eat ( which gives hp ) if you don't have 100% survavibility
unpoor yourself
i dont have choco chip and im at -37x dr
lmfao
in the AFK info tab you you can see how many kills/hr you have, right to that is Surviability
pretty sure i got my first choco at like 7dr or smthing
too bad i suppose
the problem is time
lava and his ๐ง rotation
So just whatever is the highest damage potions and one food if not 100% survivability?
even multiple food if needed to get 100%
I remember using 2-3 foods to get 100%
i played in 2006
damn idleon is old
idleon is olddder than me
miku is older than you 
im just 16
I fixed it right carpenter should be getting hit now?
When running DK on Killroy, should I remove Orb of Remembrance?
ye
where is dchef
...get older dawg
it doesnt matter my m eals are done
wait a year, i will get older
...i never considered this to lvl it up...ffs
guess i finally figured out how to atom that fucker
the more you know
now go 99% it
nblb is nice
yea 400 carpenter has been bugging me for a while on autoreview now
pass
breh
99% is such a pain
more archer dmg ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
lets go soon ill be done
When running DK on Kill Roy, should I remove Orb of Remembrance? Or do those count, too. (For that matter, does DK even use the Orb during Kill Roy?)
doesn't matter, doesn't affect
Thanks! (He was getting distracted NOT getting skulls on one of rift levels - skulls, maybe? - and I thought, "wait, is it doing that on Kill Roy and I'd never noticed?)
how long does it on average take to complete the vman quest?
some candies
an hour?
"Soon" 8 years
What would it not use it? Pretty sure nothing disables things like that apart from dungeon and the setting
how come my 3d printer is only displaying a x3 boost when i'm hooked up in the lab + have harriep as my pocket divinity?
Holy
what can i use the crystal mobs leafs for?
I think stamps
yea the normal world 1 leaf you can use for stamps but i havnt seen anything for the ohter ones
just stack them for Gstack XD
I saw that "bug" too on my acc, it just solved itself somehow
its just visual bug
i cant imagine people who try to get 1 million kills on the bloodbones by useing candy;-;
i have 1K kills an hour on them
but with my dk i can get that 1 million in like 30 hours or less
For the rift (like I said, think it was skulls) when the Orb is out it concentrates on the Orb, rather than the skulls it's supposed to be collecting. I finally switched to ES. But I wondered if that would also affect Kill Roy (e.g. that it would get the Orb generated monsters, rather than Kill Roy monsters), but Gmalala says, no, doesn't make a difference.
anyone doing Happy hour carry? got some tickets, wanna max it
???
Ohhhh
So Jacob, the leaves the crystal mobs drop are from that worlds trees
So it's the world 1-6 leaves
yea but what are they used for?
except green stack
Stamps and gstack
And I think like a quest or two
Its not too long. Just requires some prep beforehand really. Its long if journeyman is your first char and you haven't pushed further than w3. You can get the 1m kills per w1-w3 mob and the 12m gmush kills before even taking the quest
Es and DK make getting the 1m kills per mob pretty easy and less painful
Cheese 9 Happy hour
any sort of TD spreadsheet anywhere?
how to get red salt
the best way is to search it up on youtube : "W1 Tower defense Idleon"
the Equinox Symbols say +1 all talent LVs, as long as they have a single point invested - Then why doesn't Symbols of Beyond get any ๐ I feel scammed
the Icecream NPC should tell you, otherwise, there is a furnace in W3, if you have in your storage the needed materials, red salt will produce
mostly need tips on defense that are W3 & up, Ive just been spamming boulder rollers for previous
I used a spreadsheet but the big league told me it's outdated
the youtube videos are up to date for every world tower defense ( they are 8 minutes long for 200 waves )
so if you can reach only wave 80, you are done in 2 minute of the video
I tried the spreadsheet build, failed, asked the big guys here what is the problem, they told me the build is nonsense XD
the gang gonna have loot 
hey guys im trying to push my squire trough world 4 and im struggling with accuracy
tfw your game is blocked and you still have a while before printing..
any tips?
ok got some bosses to kill
i really dont wanna 
try that
neglect it
thank you
what is the best spot to get some lucky lad? ( candy )
equinox dream?
candy godshard rock
nah, just crafting some these for everyone
to speedrun vman quest do i just candy the mobs that i have alot of afk kills on, and then kill the ones with low afk kills with dk overnight?
iirc u need to do them on maestro? but might be wrong here
its only the 12 million spore kills u need to do on maestro
the 1 million kills on all mobs 1-3 is acount wide
what was 2m of 40 mobs then 
ah ok
He I know that I shouldnโt push with sigebreaker but itโs too far what do I do
Wait and push with something like ES or DK
nothing you schizo
only when fighting
in da hole for the eternity
DB gets a free pass
as well as WW and Soonโข AC
bubo will level up db's lab for him too
uhh wat
one of bubo's many talent (the 13th in this case)
tho it requires bubo in lab and you're currently activing AC so not gonna work ig
well damn I ruined it all sadge
quick question how do ribbons work? if i use one is it stuck on that recipe forever or can i remove it been skeptical using them
oh okay thats not bad then i thought it would be stuck at low level ribbon forever.....appreciate you for being quick about it thanks
im starting to see things 
good that just means you have excellent eye sight 
still cant read despite that 


+11k keys that I used by accident
at what dr? just out of curiosity
was it 130x? 
How good are those golden cakes
very good
Hi all! I don't have King Doot but I have the Conjurer Pocket Divinity at lvl 2, regular meta chars (2x ES) and unblocked up to Omniphau (elephant).
Which gods should I select both for Pocket Divinity and each char? I do like Arctis since I don't have to keep chars at the lab.
I'm @ W6 80% btw and pushing, so Nobisect may be useful ? I'm leaning towards Arctics+Harriep, and Goharut for each char / Nobisect for relegated chars.
the pain of w6
harriep is good to have
Cakes ๐คค
nobisect is also very good
Harriep/Omni on pocket div and Arctis or goat main link
How you getting that many hour glass ๐ญ
Kill biggie
> How should I be utilizing Pocket Divinity?
My go to setup is as follows:
-real link - all to Bear (any ES on Purrmep with Polytheism to Bear)
-Pocket Divinity - standard use - Harriep / Omniphau or Goat
-Pocket Divinity - sampling - Goat / Snake
> How should I be utilizing Pocket Divinity for lab?
During long stretches of lab-focused XP grinds (aka Lab75/Div40 or Lab2100):
-real link - all to Goat (any ES on Purrmep with Polytheism to Goat)
-Pocket Divinity - standard use - Harriep / Omniphau
-Pocket Divinity - sampling - Bear / Snake.
dr
I also killed over 200 biggies
Early vs not early game ๐คทโโ๏ธ
lol
is there any gem farming method that I can do daily? ๐ชคโ๏ธ
yea even if you don't USE them daily I would heavily advise purchasing the Doot&Biggie items daily
Where is the best place to farm dice obols
150 boss kills are somewhat tedious but something you can do relatively in the background as it only requires active attention every like 15-30 seconds to hit restart&pickup drops
Crystal farming at sandy pots
typically people do crystal farming at pots, you get glass shards, crystal drops from W2 and dice obols all at the same time
Ugh crystal ๐ข
I can do it but it will be annoying
If no choco chip forget about it
do I save gems or gamba for pristine charms chat
Wait for when pristine are fixed
guys is there any bug about tome?
according to lava they are fixed now no? 
no????
Oh are they?
i mean, cant drop all, need to spent gems
WOW

yeah fixed to gem shop only kind of fixed 
the reason I am thinking about gamba gems on pristines is bc they are not dropping anymore
they should in theory be fixed with W7 or shortly after I would imagine from what I know Lava is aware of the issue at least I imagine he just doesn't plan to do any updates between now and W7 release
is it normal that this bonus didn't boost 3d printer in wood and ore? My printer sampling give me the same amount as before upgrade
Umm, what happens if you put green pets in the fence yard? Nothing?
You can't, unless they have a special passive for it.

concidering your smithy is 1/18 id say you are early w3 and your mining efficincy isnt high enough to gain a noticable diff
I remember seeing on the wiki there's a pet type with a very small chance to lay more eggs while in the yard
And yeah, it's gotta be Enoch of a difference to hit the next break point for multi drops
yes it does uhh
Huh this is cool, using the one egg at a time you could get significantly more eggs from shattershell iteration, and it sounds super annoying to do too
it is annoying
Huh, well, I'm trying to unneglect breeding, not that it was ever in a badddd position but it is neglected a bit, gonna do some eggs at least for this paint bucket boost
Don't think I'll be doing that thoughhhh lmao
breeding 100 when
not wanting to kill your streak, I respect that big S
@fossil kayak hey there, I was searching through endgame breeding convos, since you're on do you mind if I tag you since they wouldn't want me asking in endgame?
I just wanted to see if you had a recommendation for your thoughts on the breeding meta lineup for wave pushing? Someone else asked and I couldn't find a image or anything
sweet
anyone have the sample excel? t,t
decent mining level no?
Not bad 
you'll need closer to 160 if you go for GS vial, otherwise should be enough for a while 
tbh is just for have decent all skill exp for bravery
FINALLY, I finally understood the strat with monolith refiller defender and rattler i have been unlocking maps like nothing
Which one is rattler
sand giant
when the fight goes on long enough it's hard to keep the strategy but it's going good so far
amogus butt
thanks
Yo
equip a full set of armor and meet all the conditions to add it to the smithy
you dont have to actually give him anything
some sets include tools yes
so copper set with tools
It says what you need to equip at the bottom of the set piece
it has to be in order from that you complete to smithy?
Nope you can do whichever you want first
almost looks like you tbh
I am from w7
spit some more leaks
Wonder if this creature buffs world skills depending on the town hes in
I can't I will be removed from game by lava
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It can very well do it but idk
I like the small divinity flame in that picture as well
I haven't used crystal countdown in forever
i can do more probably but so boring
Oh I didn't candy any of it
just for bravery dmg
it's vman he just sits son ddifferent skillings
Feel free to tag me in whatever you like
Dunno if I have the meta line up you're looking for though.
Tyvm man, it means a lot, he was looking for pushing waves in arena, so I scrolled through probably 30 conversations and couldn't find a definitive answer
Pushing waves, like past 200?
That was his request yeah
Where's the miniature soul apparatus thingie
It doesn't even necessarily need to be a like, leader board level, just saw you invested in the topic I'm sure me and him would be happy with like, your best guess?
Idk haha
That's on the top platform in w3 town
I believe this is what I used to get to round 333, Burger out front and looter right behind it. The others shouldn't matter
Ah ok thanks
@obtuse trout
Tysm man. I was reading for over 45 minutes. Ty.
what u doin
I'd it possible to get all td to lv 30 even if u don't have acess to posion tower
if the towers are high lv
roller spam (+ice)
Ok so I should focus on getting party, ice, and boulder tower at at least lv 30+
Why am I pinged?
Ok ty
What counts as high lv
40+ or so
Ok tyvm it just gonna be waiting game especially for party tower
Reading your massage
hi squido
you were looking for the best arena wave pushing lineup last night right? mabe i got the wrong bro
zebra, who often talks about breeding in endgame chat, answered this question, since you asked about it i wanted to ping you
massage huh
Massage hum
what illuminate do you tend to push for? 
im in w3 rn, and i kinda struggle to know what my characters should be afking, ive heard sum ppl say that i shouldn't focus gear, but if im not trying to get gear then i dont know what to do other then just random skilling or pushing portals
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOO
amarok gear is fine ๐คทโโ๏ธ
else can go for dementia ||(the gear not the uh the uhhh the)|| if you can
either afk push to next world or farm mats ๐คทโโ๏ธ
well usually I'd say no to the helmet but armor set 
das alright, could get your other char amarok gear without the helmet mayhance
alr, im js not rlly sure what im missing, because my barb (which im currently pushing w) has started missing (1.2k accuracy)
also i was going for the skilling armour sets for my other characters, wouldnt that be better if they're grinding resources?
at least skilling helmet for the other char
oooh ok so skilling helm then the rest amarok?
dunno about the rest of skilling gear, if they are any cheap or expensive ๐คทโโ๏ธ
yeah thats usually the play
its expensive fr me bc it needs some rare drops from w2 mobs
tho, again with the amarok armor set you get acc and def
ohhh yeah well it can wait ๐คทโโ๏ธ
alr ty
im pushing world 4 at the moment, whats the best class to use afk gain items ? im playing bubo active.
blood berserker
ty
nah ive hit wave 205 already i just wanted better line up for teratories
ty tho
guys i just got my first elite class on my pusher (sb) and what do i go for next? es or bubo? some people say divine knight is good but i cant leave the game open so es seems to be the best
Question when i select item in 3d printer
I have to do nothing and it automatically generates right
Is therr also a guide
ye i got to wave 48 with roller and ice only
Can anyone tell me how i can increase my sample sizes at the printer? Im not getting enough resources to keep my refinery going
how is your worship/tower defense? The royal sampler prayer is like a must run until you stack all the other bonuses up and dont need it anymore
You can always respec your star talents to just maximize sample size
most likely an efficiency issue vs printer size, as printer takes x% of whatever your hourly is
ngl in W4 i got only 1 pusher and mah journeyman, all of the others i put in lab
most of the time I was just afk
I havent really focused on the worships at all that well, i hust put the 2nd tier of skull on every character and have like level 30 worship on my wizard. I havent heard of that prayer yet no
ughh the salt thingy on construction, that is a sample boost
How can i increase efficiency better
You unlock it by beating wave 20 in the acorn map worship totem, its pretty easy to do even if you have barely leveled any towers
i rememeber theres a stamp to increase sample size
which worlds?
In guessing world onetree stump at the acorns
The stamp is such a small increase, especially if you dont have massive amount ofmaterials to level it, and its just in w1, the deep roots or whatever its called
Not the one with veiny logs
ahhhh the first worlds
Like for example i need green caps and bullfrog horns right
I get 500 green caps and 75 horns
Something isnt right here
Where are you in world progression?
I know its based on multkill or whatever but still
Obviously in w3 but like have you just entered?
Im in w4
Just got dk
Everyone else is in the lab right now
Gotcha, honestly yeah it does sound like it should be a little higher, do you know how to check your printer sample%
Im guessing its someqhere in stats but sadly im not home at the moment so i couldnt check
Ah gotcha, its in your skill menu under construction, whenever you can check do, and if it is like under 85%, which it almost certainly will be, you gotta push your worship for royal sampler
is there any recommendation what three items are most important to print for early game 3d printer
anything u need, its not like u have to print, it just reduces the stuff to farm
ye
its just a bit tough cuz fishes are random to get
u need a few tries
can you have all the lab bonuses unlocked at the same time with no players in the lab?
cuz i just saw a youtuber who didnt have anyone in the lab but still had all the things
thx!
is there anyway to manipulate the amount that you get?
to increase it basically
one more question is it related to afk idling? so if i afk idle after 8 hours for a item, the printing will be way more then 30 minutes
the sample takes the amount of stuff you'd get in an hour and multiplies it with your sample size i think
and the printer works once an hour only
ah so it does not matter in this case XD
thanks
i guess it make sense to max lvl the skill
What is the star meaning of star here ?
3x print from harriep
But that is for the @ below them . I have harriep linked to all three .
Why 2 different signs
its a visual thing, just a bug
purple is both 3x from harriep and 2x from lab, so 6x
i thought that one character wasnt in lab, huh
Thank you ๐
you can use idleon toolbox to see how much is actualy being produced
Why is it showing 0.1 chance for the next mutation i have unlocked every?
Ok ,thank you
from w3, can i ask for the importance of trapping and cathcing bugs? i didnt even bother doing it
right now i focus on having a chopper guy and fishing guy
and mining also (when i need ores)
Catching bugs is not a big problem
trapping is the most important thing in your life
you can't craft weapons/armors because you trapping neglected
new people 
Thanks i will take a look into trapping
any recommendation on which class should trapp? or everyone
every 1 places traps
just get good traps on every char and start to spam max exp pets ( like scarab from efaunt tombs)
and you can use beastmaster/WW to collect them all from 1 char (you lose some xp and ammount tho) later you have automatic collector
you need to do it on everyone now manually walking there
after a while you will get a Trapping drone, which lets you put traps by standing W3 remotely
you go there with 1 character and setup every trap for every character in any place
now you walk there to put them down with every char
and Beastmaster ( Hunter spec )
has an ability to collect them for everyone
yey finaly T dmg apears
yea set frog first for first crafted trap, then crab, then mouse and then you can stop a bit before you get good dense water amount. after this, you cannot upgrade traps for a very long time. but better to focus on pushing locations with your barbarian and opening multikill (third top-line construction structure) for better pushing- than faster you reach w6, than faster you open all afk skills.
and candies wont work in w6 so you can spend some for w5 push.
I even recommend candy in W4 to unlock class upgrade for every char
this is bad because you need to use candy on every char- you can just set every char in same location, set them shrines for damage and defence and go play push with your wizard main. in w5 you need to push only with one character so its better usage of candies.
candies arent that rare go wild
yea they arent rare but they have a lot more useful usages than getting elite classes.
I mean, progress is faster if you get all classes
?? istg this list is shit no?
you're underestimating elite classes lol
they're really good to get asap, better prio than pushing w5
I spent 4-5 days to get every elite class when I was beginner
outdated af
yeah ๐ญ
now I would do it in 30 minutes, spamming all candy
is there a more updated one
holy shit how ass is this list tho 
just buy the 1st tier on that list
and wait for W7
maybe W7 comes with something insane in gem shop
should i buy the 2nd food slot u think
or draconic cauldron
cause i just got like 1k gems for signing in on steam
if you can use that food slot with good stuff ,yes
Draconic cauldron is also S+ tier imo
draconic is a temporary gem shop thingy no? i think u should prio that
cauldron feels more important
2nd food slot is whatever
draconic wouldve been useful if cauldrons did stack properly (theyre instead additive, however. i regret buying them)
lol its less than a halfday of afk. which class you needed so much?
food slots are hella good but prio temporary stuff cuz they get out of rotation later
all is great
aight imma buy draconic ig
do that
there is no bigger enemy, than Alchemy in this game
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if you think you are maxed, YOU ARE NOT
alchemy is koncking on door
tldr draco doesnt stack properly with bleach so buy with your own caution
its still probably a good increase
you can max alchemy too tho :v
Can Someone Give Me The Google Doc For The Best Stats?
stats?
I saw people telling, only 100k level in each bubbles is acceptable
thats not that much tbh
who
accuracy doing chick-chick, damage doing boom, is this enough?
hell no
100k in each would probably take me years, but okay
100 doesnt even hit 60% of most bubble thresholds lmfaooo ikant with you
describe this, cause didn't understand
they want a google doc of endgamer stats someone go make it 
For Each Character
Warrior --> STR
Archers --> AGI
Wizard ---> WIS
Beginner --> LUCK
or something deeper you ask?
is this enough 
for damage
what else matters
if you open the skillbook it shows what gives acc
it also shows what gives dmg :v
but not all is extremally useful just after claiming. only bubo is great for early afking setup with purple tube but he is useful only after all another chars can afk with him.
and a lot of candies just for get elite classes is really annoying when you can spend them for reaching w6 in few day faster than w/o it.
why do we need docsheet for that ๐ฅ
is amarok set still not enough for acc
idk, back in my day there was no amarok set </3
yea, more than enough
whats the mamx book level increase u get from summoning including winer bonus multi
that is not 100k in every bubble 
301
why would i do that
!maxtalents
i mean yea you're built different in a different era. ppl nowadays just go perma rush with vault and complain about acc everywhere gg udjsgsjs
Struggling to find out how to raise the level of your talent points to hit that next threshold? Trickzbunny and jiof made this fancy sheet that will let you know what you're missing and how to get it!
30.9 ish rounded up to 31 
from summoning?
im not gonna get 95000 lvls for .9% increase
ye
damn thats a lot more than i expected
at most*
then don't say that's not much tbh ๐ฅ
I had to check the fancy sheet lol
u was saying 100k bubble level, i have 150k :)
witness the neglect
pfff rokkkie neglect
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typical alchemy bubble scaling
whats the maximum time it should take me to kill an abom
depends on how much time u have :v u can spend a day on it if ur lazy ig
1 minute preferably
1 second if possible
few of them aside from bubo are great map pushers depending on your style (dk for active, bb for afk)
pushing w5 isnt a bad idea at all but like... is it worth to justify not getting at least some of them first
there's BM which can help breeding abit (especially their arena skill imo)
DK is a must for w1~w4 colo , by the time you're in w5 DK should be strong enough to do them
in general they also have great stat talents for skilling so idk why you would ditch them
ig yea not all but like. go get them idk
.. no
correct
me when i cant finish the game in a week 
You call that neglect ill tell you mine is lower 
this is why i dont touch WW its already ass by default but touching it too early is cancer^stroke
ok im at 830 moons frags what do i i do when i get to 1k
same, my bubbles are buns
hold left click
save them, or use them idk up to you
you could either way for w7 buff or just spam away to upgrade
Use them
see.. mine would be higher if they gave dungeon stats, I'm sure you'd agree 
Can Someone Give The Google Doc For The Class Stats?
also finally unlocked my last rng item 
like uh which class to make?
1milllion %
What where you missing?
labbing
No Like All Class There Was A Google Doc For That But I Just Can't Find It
manafine kinda shit but gotta collect them all fr
but what do you mean all class 
coin flip?
@strange prism do u have pens gstacked yet 
Like A Character Example Warrior -> Barbarian -> Blood Berserker, And There Was A Stat Loadout For That And More Like Other Class
oh gg
wiki exist ๐คทโโ๏ธ
no 

can't wait for weekly reset, more t3 keychain gambling to go
damn carrying dungeon without coinflip?
fuck this shit yea
that's soda can right 
damn vro is not w4 
Yes i carry with out
sick
who uses coinflip anyways, we run with blues
Blues better anyways
next week miniboss?
wait nvm the rng item 
should I do t8 plants
I said I'd play if I ever got a good stamp proc
not like I ever had chance with that fucking coin flip anyway 
Can Someone Give The Google Doc For The Class Stats?
nah don't do it trust
how do these 2 correlate 
!guide be wary dis very outdated
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
but I got 2 today so far 
I've been neglecting the game, so I just said I'd play whenever I get a good stamp proc, no correlation whatsoever
My dungeon card and the one shown i want on 4 stars
dam everyones hitting t8s but me 
have got only one so far ๐คทโโ๏ธ
I think I've done about 2h of gaming today idk
well two T8 but it was both chem 
I have 2 
okay I have 1 lmao
how too t8 
click chem plants hehe
thats 2 
chems dont count, theyre free
no i don't want to have 0 then
I mean.. chems count 
what is that dude writing anyway
a mess of t7s
Only got T7's
freaky plant below squirrel
maybe if I can turn in my farming crops for t8s 
why all talking that dk is good pusher? dk is really bad w/o high level of shockwave when es just have great respawn and high damage abilities? you no need so much accuracy in w4-w5 from dks.
if you use candy, you dont have eggs right after reaching w4 for realisation of BM so you wont lose anything if wont candy him you wont get anything really useful from early colosseum so dk is not really reasonable too.
bb is good, yea, just more efficient candies for fast w4-w5. and his damage is pretty easy to scale so ES/BB is only one good candy uses (and not both, only one)
maybe if I get more crops? 
can confirm, doesnt help
what's your gaming speed from farming 
DK/ES are the pusher because they have respawn mechanic ๐คทโโ๏ธ
no high level of shockwave
i mean, thats such a shame.
dks mechanic sucks in every second map
das mine

k I need to do DB lmao
oh zamn
no bovinae 
? maybe my english not good but whats wrong? low level shockwave have low pierce and cannot clearing maps pretty good.
how many crops do you have
haven't got past dr skull yet 
I think like 224 or something
im at 223
so does low level of every es talents ๐คทโโ๏ธ
reaching good lvl of shockwave should never be an issue like ever


