122 alone is incredibly hard
#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮
white lintel
only a few days left and thisll be done
zenith hare
only a few days left and thisll be done
the copper pick should be able to be done with only a 95% no?
we have 96 slots now
white lintel
am I missing a big chunk of stamp reducer?
mossy anvil
if i unlocked sneaking mastery should i rush doors?
zenith hare
if i unlocked sneaking mastery should i rush doors?
if you can yes
frail spade
Is 22nd of April inclusive? Will the event continue tmrw?
zenith hare
Is 22nd of April inclusive? Will the event continue tmrw?
it could, lava said he may extend it
zenith hare
white path
zenith hare
aka release is today or tmr
white lintel
aka release is today or tmr
I can see either one
zenith hare
yeah
zenith hare
id rather today too, am going out all day tmr
mint rivet
i have seen 122 done, so its possible
zenith hare
i have seen 122 done, so its possible
ik 122 is doable, its why im doing it daily
127 however i think the stats are too high for now
mint rivet
aka release is today or tmr
zenith hare
its b
mint rivet
127 however i think the stats are too high for now
i saw 127 done aswell
zenith hare
i saw 127 done aswell
via insane sparky luck?
oh also been meaning to ask
why the fuck is basic slimes costing 15
mint rivet
via insane sparky luck?
idk
zenith hare
theyre not crystal'd, why are their prices so high
mint rivet
*why the fuck is basic slimes costing 15*
isn't it 10
zenith hare
hate it when i get an 8 card slime thats 15
its def more then 10!
base cost is 3 fyi
mint rivet
did you double the jewel upgrade?
zenith hare
nope
mint rivet
good
zenith hare
reset to focus essence, raw damage, and mana
as hp doesnt exactly matter anymore
cyan slimes get one shot so eh
white path
feels like the price to spawn slimes gets higher the further u get into endless summoning
mint rivet
maybe
zenith hare
honestly yeah
it makes the fair plays unbearable
as you need enough mana regen to inf summon
if you want it done safely with such low stats
frail spade
What should I be upgrading, I don't have any blue salt, so I can't build more
mint rivet
What should I be upgrading, I don't have any blue salt, so I can't build more
boulder, printer
and salt lick
zenith hare
printer, salt lick, chests, boulders, and all of the shrines. basically in that order
frail spade
Okay thank you
Btw I don't get salt licks too much, do I upgrade everything to the max
zenith hare
boulder, printer
btw took a day and a half
zenith hare
Btw I don't get salt licks too much, do I upgrade everything to the max
everything you can reasonably afford
mint rivet
btw took a day and a half
nice
frail spade
everything you can reasonably afford
Okay thank you
white lintel
btw took a day and a half
whats your call me bob level?
zenith hare
whats your call me bob level?
smol
sharp quiver
once you get all your shinies to lvl 13, is there one in particular that is good to just leave in there and forget about it or should i try to get them all to like lvl 15 ?\
zenith hare
ref speed, shiny level speed, mk/t, uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
meal bonus
base skill eff
and ofc tot damage
zenith hare
wheres all ya con xp coming from then?
are you saying my const xp is higher then it should be?
smol
thats the cogs too
white path
btw took a day and a half
is this the higher or lower leveled dk?
prime hinge
still working on leveling up my trapping on all my chars rn but should i have them all at the highest creature they can trap or should i have like 1 trap at each for better resource variety? or is leveling more important cause then i can catch more faster?
zenith hare
and db is at just under 1300
white path
I have higher construction levels but around half ur br
zenith hare
still working on leveling up my trapping on all my chars rn but should i have th...
id do 1 of all critters, and all spare slots on highest
zenith hare
I have higher construction levels but around half ur br
double excogia?
untold wren
What’s the de sync issue with meteor shower for ES?
zenith hare
its not a desync for that
es just lags the fuck out of the game and causes desync between server side playtime and client side playtime
white path
double excogia?
no
zenith hare
which gets sorted when you cloud save
zenith hare
no <:GuyMontag:859584397539278859>
def is part of why then
white lintel
are you saying my const xp is higher then it should be?
just curious what your xp stuff is to get to 1700
zenith hare
just curious what your xp stuff is to get to 1700
idk tbh ive barely invested into cog clicking
di enough to reach 10k% xp cause red was saying mine was close to his
white lintel
you only have one set of excogia right?
untold wren
which gets sorted when you cloud save
Only an issue when actively playing yes?
white lintel
ah ok
zenith hare
Only an issue when actively playing yes?
yeah
zenith hare
Only an issue when actively playing yes?
needless to say, it gets laggy
i have main drop filtered for a reason
mint rivet
lower is 1601 only
you active a ton of DK i see
zenith hare
nope
mint rivet
how is ur difference 100 lvls
zenith hare
lower dk just isnt in range of all the zen cogs
white lintel
i has both
I think thats most of the difference between us, not sure what else there is
mint rivet
oh alr
zenith hare
gotta love the lag
mint rivet
gotta love the lag
you should stop with DB and do bubo/bm
white lintel
uh
zenith hare
its so slow why is it doing this
zenith hare
why are you over 100 levels away?
i get that ive played for longer, but tbh my const has sucked for ages
white lintel
yea its real weird, ik you been playing longer and thats prob significant, but these rates are also pretty different too, I feel like mine should be higher with these xp differences
white lintel
are you on BR set up?
zenith hare
xp
white lintel
other dudes there just for funn then?
white lintel
mm ok
zenith hare
might as well do the easy levels
white lintel
yea fair nuff
white path
my br is really low
zenith hare
found a better layout for quad xpers
white lintel
26T wo
zenith hare
main dk xp didnt drop at all
white lintel
found a better layout for quad xpers
where directional cogs?
zenith hare
havent rolled a single good not 0% one
white lintel
is this good?
zenith hare
insane
white lintel
white lintel
why does my DK xp drop like to half when active on him?
white path
happens to me too, probably a bug
mint rivet
its a well known bug
white lintel
this game is buns
mint rivet
lava does not fix it
hass been like this ever since w3
fix significant bugs 
add packs 
white lintel
isnt the alchemt reset bug still in the game too?
mint rivet
idk what that is
white lintel
you know all that time you spent CCing for alchemy
untold wren
does this mean i dont need to equip this card to get the bonus?
azure hatch
should i go over 200 in pet arena?
mint rivet
this is the bug
i do not understand
white lintel
After-before
mint rivet
is it fixable by a cloud save or anything
since losing thousands of hours of active gains is massive
white lintel
No, it’s actually caused by cloudsave
mint rivet
Saw someone experience it yesterday
did the person who experienced it get the progress back?
white lintel
You’re just fucked unless you take pics of your numbers and email lava with proof
turbid stag
the bug report has 60 upvotes
share message link so I can vote on it
white path
white path
did the person who experienced it get the progress back?
I know Hourzero did but not sure about other people
turbid stag
oh already did
white lintel
HourZero got his back
Others have but some haven’t bc no pics or nothin
Not sure if people have asked without any screenshots I’m curious how it went
turbid stag
but the cloudsave issue also causes issue with alch level which has a ingame "fix" lol.
-# if you can work around the bug ingame it probably wont be fixed.
white lintel
fixing it should be a top prioity
And yet it’s been a thing for months
turbid stag
I hope the community can come around and say we want bug fixing instead of new content
I feel Lava thinks new content is top prio because it is "wanted" or maybe it brings new people to the game increasing player base
white path
And yet it’s been a thing for months
#bug-reports-🐛 message this is the first bug report I can find about alchemy resetting
thats 4 years ago
turbid stag
rip
if it is not happening to me it must be imaginary
there is no bugs in the game since I have never seen one
viral radish
Event ends tmr
Couldn't get a second bag
white lintel
if it is not happening to me it must be imaginary
Just take regular pictures of your liquids, like once a week
Just in case
white lintel
Event ends tmr
Couldn't get a second bag
You don’t need a second bag, it’s useless
olive pendant
in the making new cooking recipes, what do "next fire level" do ?
white lintel
Better chances for a new meal
olive pendant
ok, thanks
prime hinge
any easy way to increase px length?
wanting to pull some characters out but dont really feel like losing world wide shrines or increased refinery is worth it for me
prime hinge
sad
white lintel
does candy work on lab levels?
Can’t Candy any w4 skills
untold wren
So it works?
white lintel
Other than spirals farming ig
untold wren
Ok
vagrant plover
what should i buy or save for
white lintel
Ribbon and that’s it
zenith hare
what should i buy or save for
ribbon
vagrant plover
hwo do i get more ribbon
white lintel
From the event lol
vagrant plover
event poitns i meant
untold wren
What today is last day?
white lintel
Kinda
white lintel
Yes but different rotation for future events
zenith hare
reminder
untold wren
No easy access to candy
zenith hare
No easy access to candy
weekly giants, w2 bosses, w3-6 mini bosses weekly
untold wren
what’s giants
zenith hare
have you done w2 TD?
white lintel
what’s giants
🛌
white lintel
It’s from worship, it gives free gems and candy when active farming
untold wren
Is this like from statue(
zenith hare
drops mini boss loot table drops too
which btw is this
4 gems, and 1 roll on each candy
untold wren
I got like a 1 day to 500 hour candy before from w3 boss
strange flare
your pc really wanted to show off your titan prayer
atomic flower
which btw is this
sugar rush boss
viral radish
You don’t need a second bag, it’s useless
it didnt apply to the characters I made after using the bag so
zenith hare
it didnt apply to the characters I made after using the bag so
thats an oversight
untold wren
which btw is this
Omg who’s this, I want to farm him
zenith hare
Omg who’s this, I want to farm him
w2 miniboss
white lintel
it didnt apply to the characters I made after using the bag so
Lava can’t code bruh
untold wren
Ohhh that hourglass guy
zenith hare
which is this recipe
untold wren
But it’s expensive to summon him
zenith hare
But it’s expensive to summon him
no?
untold wren
I can’t get the wood at thing easily
untold wren
What reallyyyy
viral radish
thats an oversight
welp, prob gonno take him long before he fixes dat
zenith hare
active ES is the base table drop person
zenith hare
welp, prob gonno take him long before he fixes dat
make sure to bug report it
strange wigeon
Do I need to kill the giant eye on each character to get the w3 keys?
zenith hare
i doubt its reported much, so uncertain if its known
zenith hare
Do I need to kill the giant eye on each character to get the w3 keys?
thats only for daily keys
you can just do the first quest for keys from the reward
viral radish
i doubt its reported much, so uncertain if its known
I saw 2 reports, I will make on too ig
full beacon
why does high performance arena still render stuff xD
zenith hare
and the later sources of keys isnt daily keys. its from the minibosses
zenith hare
why does high performance arena still render stuff xD
it only renders the not spammed stuff
basic attacks, alch skull, etc isnt
full beacon
I see
zenith hare
everything else is
full beacon
yea I got the classic 900 shields on screen screenshot rn 🤣
zenith hare
hm, exactly 10kx
zenith hare
looter dying is what makes alchemic setup even work
full beacon
oh
zenith hare
as long as you swapped looter and refiller
full beacon
full beacon
full beacon
mammooth, was higher power than my chest
zenith hare
thought it was rat for a second, which wouldve been really bad
full beacon
errr sandy I mean
full beacon
1hr 
they aren't terrible power, I didn't go in with 10k's
I think the final 3 are all 30k ish
but yea it's slowing down to a crawl
hopefully I don't crash
azure hatch
how do i beat these guys
zenith hare
how do i beat these guys
do you have bloque?
azure hatch
no
zenith hare
then the same as before, hardest part is getting that first mono trigger off
manual time the mimic until it works
full beacon
wth
zenith hare
yeah mono go brrrr
full beacon
guess I should unlock more then if you're almost done unlocking with 10k power lol
white lintel
i dont even have guys for these xd
Use some eggs damn
zenith hare
fucking finally
how do people get it so low???
its been stuck at 1.1 for the past 3 months
full beacon
do you have bloque?
what changes if you do have alchemic
do I need to get flashy first?
azure hatch
i dont have the last one, what can i use else
zenith hare
what changes if you do have alchemic
you use the nuke team
zenith hare
i dont have the last one, what can i use else
fleeter works, flashy works too if you dont have that
full beacon
oh wait I do have flashy
zenith hare
oh wait I do have flashy
ur cant then
you can only do it before flashy or after alchemic
youre basically hard stuck if youre inbetween
full beacon
I have alchemic
full beacon
I will nuke
zenith hare
full beacon
oh is the duping why I get random framedrops
azure hatch
bro the guy just dies 
zenith hare
it will, untill it doesnt
azure hatch
at least this one doesnt have healing
zenith hare
itll take like 10 attempts for it to work, but when it does you live forever
if you dont have alchemic anyways
azure hatch
isnt putting the shield guy first makes more sense
zenith hare
no
as if its first then it only covers itself for about 3/4ths of the time
meanwhile if its second, it covers the pet ahead of it for ab 4x longer
native trail
should i also use that for pushing spice battles
zenith hare
should i also use that for pushing spice battles
unless you have trasher/peapod, yeah
native trail
unless you have trasher/peapod, yeah
alrighty
willow nymph
I'm struggling to get enough waves to get souls here. Any tips?
zenith hare
I'm struggling to get enough waves to get souls here. Any tips?
do you have boulders?
willow nymph
Yeah
full beacon
using wrong class too, use hunter for snare
zenith hare
also do you have a hunter
willow nymph
I do have a hunter yup
zenith hare
spam all boulders, with about a tower gap inbetween
and use hunters kick and immobalize skill
azure hatch
it works i guess.. maybe idk
willow nymph
I'll give that a try
zenith hare
(the gap is for stun enemies)
full beacon
it's pretty ass early on, if you can get to w11 just for a few souls that's prob good for a while
zenith hare
it works i guess.. maybe idk
should work as long as looter procs refiller a few times
full beacon
once your tower lvl is op it becomes easy
azure hatch
it didnt 😢
zenith hare
also turn on high performance mode
azure hatch
can looter proc time stop
zenith hare
no
azure hatch
good
zenith hare
its the only thing it cant do to prevent infinite loops
willow nymph
Should you priorize tower level or more towers early on?
full beacon
it'll just follow your salt production really
like you need the end salts for kraken, etc
zenith hare
Should you priorize tower level or more towers early on?
id do place 3, level all up to 5, place 4, level all up to 6, and just freestyle rest
full beacon
I unlocked a bunch of stuff before having the salt and it was just sitting there for a bit
oh lmao you meant during a game hahah
your 20-30mins estimate pretty spot on
zenith hare
damag go brr
and fyi: you need to kill 200 (get to 201) for it to count
and either turn off auto to let ur pets die or wait 15 mins for a cloud save before you press exit
full beacon
learned that early on when I lost to w50
zenith hare
(death forces a save)
compact pagoda
real
zenith hare
it just doesnt save, so you need to wait for 15 mins for it to be saved mid run
100% of the time
azure hatch
ok then i got lucky
zenith hare
otherwise you can sometimes have to do it again
stable basin
Any way to see your Sample rate without royal sampler? I'd prefer not to resample everything just to see if i still need it.
azure hatch
i will outdamage the heal evenrually right?
full beacon
cons in your skills
zenith hare
Any way to see your Sample rate without royal sampler? I'd prefer not to resampl...
IT can show you, same for auto review
zenith hare
i will outdamage the heal evenrually right?
yes as you have infinite damage scaling
stable basin
This means im 31.4% over, and royal sampler gives me 44 at max, so i need this number to be higher then royal samplers boost, correct?
full beacon
why is 201 easier than 200 xD
azure hatch
some bosses are easier they have less health
full beacon
ah yea the classic, get sidetracked by something and my pirate claimer is doing nothing
stable basin
ah yea the classic, get sidetracked by something and my pirate claimer is doing ...
I feel that
modern gate
Chat is there a shiny pet tier list?
full beacon
yes
zenith hare
This means im 31.4% over, and royal sampler gives me 44 at max, so i need this n...
yeah, review shows without royal sampler to be easier
stable basin
I'll take a look then
full beacon
faster shiny > infinite star signs > refinery speed > meal bonuses
top 4, not necessarily in that order, all important
zenith hare
faster shiny > infinite star signs > refinery speed > meal bonuses
tbh id say theyre all equal
theyre the 4 most important by far
modern gate
btw ive been told my fenceyard is a mess, is that true?
zenith hare
btw ive been told my fenceyard is a mess, is that true?
yes
viscid quartz
when do u even unlock shinies
zenith hare
you DO NOT need pink pets of pets youve already gotten the next pet for
zenith hare
when do u even unlock shinies
breeding level 40
modern gate
you DO NOT need pink pets of pets youve already gotten the next pet for
So what do I need to do instead?
zenith hare
So what do I need to do instead?
latest pet only
until you unlock shinies
then just spam shinies
modern gate
What about the power obtained from bredability?
full beacon
you can get to 4x breedability with like 1 or 2 pink pretty quickly
don't need a full yard
zenith hare
BM talent, breeding level and egg rarity is the only things that change pet power
1.5 months left
for this
full beacon
does it really take that long lol
native trail
someone has a set up for these two rows for maximum recourse per hour
full beacon
native trail
so follow this all the way
full beacon
compact pagoda
burger line go brrr
full beacon
fleeter prob
native trail
Hm alr
full beacon
burger instead of target
compact pagoda
early game peeps 🤯
full beacon
you can prob just ignore the whale thing.I feel like getting atoms is really quick
compact pagoda
anyway back to lurking
viscid quartz
burger instead of target
i just realized the arcade burger might actually be a bm buff theres a breeding burger 😭
lava might not be trolling
full beacon
borger the best
compact pagoda
burger go
full beacon
I lvled mine up to 25 cuz why not
viscid quartz
i shall now level burger
full beacon
getting hella balls from this event
compact pagoda
200% burger when
polar bison
how to get chizoar scarf quick
full beacon
do the w3 arena questline on every char in your account
then you will have 400+ keys, then spam chaotic
white lintel
Or just do a colo on DK
native trail
Any tips on how to increase Mob printing specifically Gmush on vman
full beacon
are you already doing it during a run?
native trail
yes ofc
full beacon
all the minmaxing you do for the run should already cover it then
native trail
pop the Aoe skill and quickly go to the map ribht
native trail
all the minmaxing you do for the run should already cover it then
i only print 140K
it feels low
full beacon
native trail
and got cards i just Spam Afk gains and Multi kill
full beacon
w6 set too should help
native trail
Yup
full beacon
bubble?
PO mk box?
mk pendant from flurbo shop
full purple skull deathnote w1
if not lava
full beacon
mk keychais
white lintel
mob respawn keychains
white lintel
mk keychains are only base mk not mkpt, so useless
native trail
Thanks artic
white lintel
Thanks artic
no prob
also mob repsawn is a more valuble stat so youd wanna get it instead of mk unless the MK keychain was insanely strong
native trail
<https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Nuget_Cake_Fedora>
an achievement? bruh
full beacon
PO box unless it's below the line
white lintel
for waht
native trail
also mob repsawn is a more valuble stat so youd wanna get it instead of mk unles...
So i could use the Mob respawn thingy from Dung shop
full beacon
an achievement? bruh
well if mk is trash then maybe don't need it
white lintel
So i could use the Mob respawn thingy from Dung shop
dung shop?
native trail
dung shop?
dungeon
white lintel
for your guide, just another bullet point
again for what?
full beacon
mk/t and sample size
white lintel
you want this one, not sure if this is max roll tho, checking rn
hard thistle
Look at the damage💀
zenith hare
smol damage
white lintel
it keeps creeping across my screen
white lintel
smol damage
BM dmg lol
latent bramble
you want this one, not sure if this is max roll tho, checking rn
6/6 would be max
values are 3/4/6 for respawn
white lintel
mk/t and sample size
added sources of sample %, and I already had MKPT in there
hard thistle
Any idea for afk gains?
white lintel
6/6 would be max
values are 3/4/6 for respawn
thanks ace
hard thistle
Any idea for afk gains?
Is it 7/7?
native trail
Anyway to increase this? i’d want at least 300K
white lintel
Anyway to increase this? i’d want at least 300K
dmg, mk, mob respawn, kpk, afk gain %
white lintel
Any idea for afk gains?
huh?
native trail
dmg, mk, mob respawn, kpk, afk gain %
all check :c
white lintel
all check :c
you dont even have MK so dmg not check
errant mirage
any good line up for this?
native trail
you dont even have MK so dmg not check
mk is when i have double the damage of their hp?
check
white lintel
Max keychain value on afk gains.
native trail
still a lil low
white lintel
still a lil low
was a p big increase tho
native trail
was a p big increase tho
Huh
native trail
i honestly don’t know where to get more kpk bonuses from
full beacon
any good line up for this?
what you used for the 92
I need that one too
and what's your pets power lvls
errant mirage
what you used for the 92
white lintel
i honestly don’t know where to get more kpk bonuses from
talents, lab and div if you havent gotten already, alchemy has some, and a few other places
full beacon
pet powers?
errant mirage
and what's your pets power lvls
full beacon
oof, I'm really close to you then, guess I can't do it either xD
I would assume just lacking power, don't think there's many tricks you can pull with only 4 slots
native trail
yea this the best i can do
hard thistle
I think I found a mistake on the wiki, correct me if I'm wrong.
white lintel
I think I found a mistake on the wiki, correct me if I'm wrong.
not a dungeon key
rocky jacinth
I think I found a mistake on the wiki, correct me if I'm wrong.
The list is talking about the tier 3 from the dungeon
errant mirage
I would assume just lacking power, don't think there's many tricks you can pull ...
u gotta be lucky with looter
full beacon
lol the wiki actually doesn't have 7 for that special chain either
hard thistle
Lol
I don't remember getting it from the gem shop tho?
Maybe it's from that 300 broken keychain thingy
compact pagoda
events
native trail
should i buy
compact pagoda
probably or thy chains
compact pagoda
should i buy
got dragonic yet ?
native trail
yes
white lintel
should i buy
no
compact pagoda
white lintel
div scarf is better
compact pagoda
b .. but slab
white lintel
few circumstances would warrant spending 590 gems on plus one slab
white lintel
it rolls around often
compact pagoda
i don't see it
white lintel
i don't see it <:GuyMontag:859584397539278859>
it was also in the DB launch fomo, and several others
gilded talon
danceing on ppizza 1 world 4
compact pagoda
it was also in the DB launch fomo, and several others
i didn't have gems back then
and now
white lintel
save your gems up
and when youd want to get the necklace for slab you should have plenty of methods to gem farm availble
white path
no unless u hit pity
exotic swallow
I'll hit pity if I donate
thorny zinc
second 12 hour candy
gilded talon
3 dancers pizza 1 world 4
compact pagoda
second 12 hour candy<:Grumblo_Pray:1114306970816630876>
u had to use candy
thorny zinc
wdym ?
compact pagoda
i just afked for a few hours
thorny zinc
a lol
gilded talon
we need 2 more dancers pizza 1 world 4
white lintel
w6 gloves are pain
compact pagoda
afk go brrr
thorny zinc
when next glove <:hahaha:539023586518630402>
i saw the recipe i dont want gloves anymore
woeful karma
thats a full line up of player's nametags worth of points :(
woeful karma
w6 gloves are pain
W4 T2 gloves are also a pain
compact pagoda
i saw the recipe i dont want gloves anymore
😂
thorny zinc
zenith hare
remember we cant candy
compact pagoda
don't jinx
zenith hare
woeful karma
<:GuyMontag:859584397539278859>
i assume its as bad as me trying to craft T2 W4 gloves in W3?
woeful karma
oh that doesnt look too bad
zenith hare
i assume its as bad as me trying to craft T2 W4 gloves in W3?
its fine
compact pagoda
just candy
thorny zinc
oh that doesnt look too bad
only the hampters are trash but yeah its easy
woeful karma
its really easy tbh
wonder if i can get them in W4
woeful karma
hampters is from a w5 mob
this is the killer then
zenith hare
this you can basically get rn
thorny zinc
so you wont unlock them this age
zenith hare
same for this
woeful karma
^is in W4 tab
is craftable in W3
zenith hare
yeah but its a w5 mob drop hampters are
woeful karma
i am just miussing the void salts
woeful karma
yeah but its a w5 mob drop hampters are
yueah mob drops are a killer
if it wernt for TV remotes my samples would be so much higher
alas my samples are 
still upset about this btw
the only 1 of the 4 T1 W4 tab weps that i cant make
my poor barbbbb
i can make the helm and pants tho
zenith hare
rekt
woeful karma
Ooo nice gains from 400
also +1 slab (pop cat)
sullen badger
should i worry about skill mastery or should i just keep doing whatever
zenith hare
should i worry about skill mastery or should i just keep doing whatever
up to passive cards asap
sullen badger
Ooo nice gains from 400
also +1 slab (pop cat)
are you doing a challenge run i seriously dont understand how your still at w3
sullen badger
up to passive cards asap
alright will do
zenith hare
are you doing a challenge run i seriously dont understand how your still at w3
theyre staying in the world till they near max most skills and things to do
sullen badger
ah alright
woeful karma
are you doing a challenge run i seriously dont understand how your still at w3
i take my sweet ass time building stable foundations before i move onto the next world
i have societal expectations among other things that also force me to continue the path ive trailblazed 
but yeah
im always the strongest of the strongest the best of the best within whatever world i am in after a short amount of time due to that lol
sullen badger
w4 will be fun
pets n lab and such, i assume you aren't planning on getting all the jewels?
woeful karma
yep
woeful karma
pets n lab and such, i assume you aren't planning on getting all the jewels?
idk
maybe i might
sullen badger
yeah save up some gems then
woeful karma
ill be in W4 for at least 8 months im assuming
woeful karma
yeah save up some gems then
yeah im only gonna be getting good stuff from the rotating shop from now
ive gotten pretty much all of the importatn stuff for W1-3
woeful karma
salts are constent
i have a few minor goals that need me to have more green salts (and maybe 5k void salts)
as for construction
im working on library and shrines atm with red salts
salt lick with orange salts
cost cruncher with blue (and salt lick)
green for skulls and glass helms
void for Mman wep
as for other things
working on shrines so i can get the 140 total shrine level EQ dream done so i can get slow burn
then finish upgrading my TD towers and then finish W3 TD stuff
and other misc stuff but that is the core salt and construction stuff i have left
i might also work on this this would be nice imsure
brisk berry
Did lava give up with the last few rift challenges? They've all been kill 5m afk mobs
sullen badger
likely
ruby pagoda
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thorny zinc
first opal bought
sullen badger
emperor opals are very nice
lunar basin
ahhh we meet again w3 w4 chat
question: does vman's cooking level matter in terms of being higher leveled than your blood berserkers?
remote plover
do multikill cards affect ES mobs?
zenith hare
do multikill cards affect ES mobs?
as long as you have mk
woeful karma
do yall think lava will fix the golden trim issue in the next update?
crystal basin
what can i do to improve? i will also add i dont have upgrades added yet as to im not sure which to use.
queen scaffold
Is it a bug to get multiple green mushroom pets after claiming my weekly free pet draw?
unborn vapor
Are the question marks extra pets or did I hatch them all?
zenith hare
what can i do to improve? i will also add i dont have upgrades added yet as to i...
too little info
indigo stratus
Think every candle fail gives gmush
zenith hare
based on acc, ur early w4
you have the damage of mid w5 and acc of mid w4 at best
obols, gear, tools, cards, card sets, w1/2 clickers, dungeons, prayers, vault, star signs, talents, stamps, PO boxes for acc work on these and you'll be fine. this gives about 50k acc, no alchemy needed
indigo stratus
Which without being able to recycle for anything... is just nuisance for the majority of players
zenith hare
ignore everything damage based and full focus acc
as long as you still have 500k max damage on ES, you can basically one shot the w4 boss
unborn vapor
Are the question marks extra pets or did I hatch them all?
.
zenith hare
Are the question marks extra pets or did I hatch them all?
theyre extras
just like how dog, bunny, duck are
crystal basin
too little info
ok what else do i need to show?
zenith hare
ok what else do i need to show?
sending an IT/IE is best as we can have a look around at most of ur bonuses
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zenith hare
!ie
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zenith hare
done so via going to data and copying the link thats there
after profile is uploaded*
https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=meme_bean8608 example here being my IT
crystal basin
it/ie? no clue what the hell that means dude
zenith hare
and i just showed you
tldr: we can view ur ingame bonuses via a url online (we have no access to ur actual account dw)
thorny zinc
woeful karma
what is this and why is it in data?
zenith hare
this being my home page on IT
woeful karma
<:Grumblo_Pray:1114306970816630876>
soon ill yoin jou
zenith hare
it just makes it easier to look through ur own account basically
crystal basin
it says unknown error when i log into the toolbox
zenith hare
are you using the same method you signed into ur actual idleon account
crystal basin
i signed in through steam
zenith hare
mine is a google account as an example, so i need to use the google method. even tho i mainly play on steam
because my account was made via google play store and i used the google option back then
why tf is this a vote?
:/
pine fiber
again the money andies holy sheeeet
zenith hare
would you rather: double ur prints basically for a week thatll last till the end of time, or get 2x coins for only a week
woeful karma
why tf is this a vote?
Ooo sounds like a free 1.25x dmg multi XD
woeful karma
would you rather: double ur prints basically for a week thatll last till the end...
new players moment
zenith hare
Ooo sounds like a free 1.25x dmg multi XD
its literally a 0 bonus for anyone with chemical
woeful karma
<:Grumblo_Pray:1114306970816630876>
zenith hare
it is harmful to vote it for anyone in w6 basically
woeful karma
its literally a 0 bonus for anyone with chemical
pine fiber
oh we have farming bonus this week?
zenith hare
chemical go brrr
pine fiber
gotta push my crops 
zenith hare
indigo stratus
Oh, I should check my evo chance. Maybe it went from 0 to .01%
pine fiber
soon I should start reattempting my towerdefenses, I could probably push them atleast 10 waves higher
poisonic has been gaining levels
the extra trimmed slot from blackmarket is hella nice ngl
woeful karma
soon I should start reattempting my towerdefenses, I could probably push them at...
i plan to push for it once i level my towers more and get slowburn
woeful karma
the extra trimmed slot from blackmarket is hella nice ngl
a shame its broken for me and some others atm
pine fiber
broken?
woeful karma
yeah for some the black market golden trim provides a 0x bvoost instead of 3x
pine fiber
oh wow, I havent checked that
woeful karma
i get roughly 17.7k progress per 'tick' on the trim slot and 17.7k progress per 'tick' on a non trim slot lol
im hoping lava fixes it in next update
pine fiber
nice trimmed slot
woeful karma
IT also reconizes it as goldne too
woeful karma
damn you've been maxing out construction pretty steadily
ive gotten everything i can unlockwithin W3 yea
pine fiber
huge gg
woeful karma
most of my levels atm
pine fiber
do you need any companions or you are maxed out?
woeful karma
only samurai
i got gifted most of the newer set
but ima chil on seeing if anyone has a spare samurai or something or constent trade offers bc im still a while away from W5 lmao
pine fiber
dunno if I should go for the guaranteed mythic from current set
viral radish
woeful karma
golem is goated imo
but then again
i can always uise more damage lol
pine fiber
I have enough green gems but I am also maxed out 
woeful karma
its its own multiplier too to boot
viral radish
I have enough green gems but I am also maxed out <:LULW:662670461557014550>
Green gems, maxed out?
As in all pets?
pine fiber
yeah I'll let you know what I get when I get home, still an hour or so, afternoon shift 
pine fiber
Green gems, maxed out?
As in all pets?
yeah all pets
viral radish
yeah I'll let you know what I get when I get home, still an hour or so, afternoo...
I mean, there being a chance lava drops new pets, shouldn't you be keeping those gems?
viral radish
I mean, if you just wanna roll for the love of the game sure
pine fiber
but thats just my pov
viral radish
it'd feel too soon ngl for him to drop a new set
Yea true
viral radish
Makes sense
pine fiber
ofc I could be talking nonsense, nobody ever knows what Lava plans on doing next
astral salmon
how to enable and disable auto use of a single ability mid battle in pet arena? i can select auto use all, then disable one skill specifically, but how to turn that on mid battle?
cloud stump
Maybe a stupid question but does skilled dimwit affect skills beyond world 3? like lab or anything?
pine fiber
lab is affected by dimwit yes
woeful karma
it'd feel too soon ngl for him to drop a new set
same imo
pine fiber
and I think thats it, breeding has no efficiency, cooking loves dimwit tho
woeful karma
Maybe a stupid question but does skilled dimwit affect skills beyond world 3? li...
it is all skill exp iirc
pine fiber
not every skill is affected by it tho, even before w3
woeful karma
oh?
pine fiber
maybe the -%xp is still there
but you dont need effi for alchemy either
construction same story
cloud stump
I mean should I be turning skilled dimwit on and off between afking for things like lab and divinity and construction or alchemy?
pine fiber
but skilled dimwit should live rent free on every character
viral radish
Anyways it will be interesting to see what the bonuses of new pets would be
pine fiber
you want less xp on characters that arent your vman anyway, and vman gets skill xp from many sources anyway
viral radish
When they eventually come out that is
iron vector
Any players with his name starting with letter P that can say 1 star, game sucks! so i can complete a quest, thx?
fervent spoke
getting there slowly! no need to use all 7 characters for this anymore 😄
pine fiber
a summer/early autumn set is likely I think
viral radish
a summer/early autumn set is likely I think
Probably
pine fiber
getting there slowly! no need to use all 7 characters for this anymore 😄
sigils are kinda meh, go for the kill bonus instead
fervent spoke
sigils are kinda meh, go for the kill bonus instead
mainly skilling for now. The sigils have indeed been lackluster but idk people have been talking about them a lot, so i'm just checking all of em out
pine fiber
sigils are good when you:
- have all bubbles unlocked
- got sov artifact for sigils
- have sigil speed from summoning(?)
fervent spoke
sigils are good when you:
1. have all bubbles unlocked
2. got sov artifact for s...
i have got none of those! but i do like unlocking stuff
pine fiber
yeah I feel you, but dont put your characters onto sigils, such a waste of time for you right now
keep working on bubbles + liquid, so much more important
fervent spoke
yeah I feel you, but dont put your characters onto sigils, such a waste of time ...
it is too late.
pine fiber
well, now you can put those back to liquid/cauldrons
fervent spoke
they won't change their position until they encounter a 5000 point sigil lol
fervent spoke
from early ones, that is
I'll keep that in mind
pine fiber
there are good ones even at lvl1, like stamp upgrading cost, thats yuge
but yeah, I dont wanna repeat myself, I'd just recommend doing what I suggested a bit earlier
fervent spoke
but yeah, I dont wanna repeat myself, I'd just recommend doing what I suggested ...
ive been chilling with alchemy. takes a long while to get anywhere. so i'm just upgrading my decanting for a bit. then back to upgrading whatever i see is funky
pine fiber
yeah alchemy is a slog until bubo can start craniumcooking
after that, it's just beautiful
fervent spoke
yeah alchemy is a slog until bubo can start craniumcooking
i mean, i have craniumcooking on that shaman but idk what it does
speeds up time per kill
pine fiber
its basically an alchemy candy
fervent spoke
and lasts for X seconds
pine fiber
for liquid/cauldrons, sigils are unaffected
fervent spoke
OH it's an active skill
viral radish
Yes
pine fiber
it accumulates time from your kills while active and that time is spent towards progression
so you'll see massive gains while doing so
fervent spoke
80.000s cooldown. that's nice
pine fiber
but you definitely need 200+ tenteyecle for the cooldown to reach the 2s->3s breakpoint
- you can start leveling your cookin roadkill purple bubble
it adds duration, more progression gained and reduces cooldown
fervent spoke
well this is a whole new mechanic world. thanks for explaining.
fervent spoke
always thought shaman was useless. terrible damaging talents with those throwing potions after all.
viral radish
Which world are you in?
fervent spoke
4 - prior to hitting any enemies
viral radish
You should get elite classes on all your characters
royal garden
bubo can skyrocket alchemy progression
zenith hare
it so slowwww
and fyi bubo only does that as of w6
its only a small assist as of w4/5
wtf snipping didnt work
better
god i really need to sort this issue out, whatever it is
viral radish
I think waiting a few seconds after sniping could fix it
zenith hare
it just didnt work that time
viral radish
Ah
crystal basin
ok im back now. i did the idletoolbox thing
crystal basin
hence i sent two images before
could you help me with understanding the site
white lintel
meme bean try to send the correct images challenge impossible
warm grove
WHAT IS THIS HARP
azure hatch
which map is best for beast master active afk for eggs
warm grove
honestly not sure, probably just a higher density map with a ton of mobs, so maybe soda cans in W4?
azure hatch
i need eggss
night oracle
WHAT IS THIS HARP
I need that rn
warm grove
do you not have blooming axe?
warm grove
you can't afford to not use combat pets in those territories?
azure hatch
nope
warm grove
also your borger in shores of eternity is kind of useless since it's not getting buffed by a forager above it
azure hatch
i just need 1 for the meals so not a big deal
warm grove
yeah, i'm saying it would be faster by a lot, if you have a forager above it though
azure hatch
yeah i dont have any rn
warm grove
can't swap one from another territory?
azure hatch
they all got like 200 pet power targeters
nimble atlas
Idk fully how vman speedrun works but I only improved slightly over yesterday's run but got like 400 more tab 4 points.
so uh, how exactly does it work? each new portal gives you how many points?
warm grove
thought it was 25 but haven't done it in a while
azure hatch
warm grove
just got a good old jackpot from my daily ticket
warm grove
yeah it was
nimble atlas
that's actually really good. I can't even properly spend all my points yet because I don't have the greatest skill caps lol
azure hatch
i do speedrun every like 2 months
nimble atlas
also a question on salts. I'm really struggling for blue salts. Should i hold off on upgrading green for a bit or will it even out with time?
It did even out when I was able to upgrade blue to level 2 but now i'm only breaking even again and getting none to spend :/
azure hatch
too much managing
blue is supposed to 4x green with each upgrade if im not wrong
like you need to upgrade green 4 times for 1 blue upgrade
it needs some checking though
they say never stop upgradeing red and green so i'd say just try to upgrade blue
warm grove
wait the first door on M2 is only this much? I do like 1 quintillion an hour on 1 dude
nimble atlas
i'm using auto review to help me know what to upgrade on the refinery so I don't mess up
here's what i'm at rn
but here's my salt excess to deficit ratio
I'm getting kinda screwed on blue and purple rn. Though it's very likely because i'm still new to the game.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if salt is just an early game issue that will resolve with time.
warm grove
I mean yeah it is, but it does take a while
i'd say a good year give or take a few months depending on your efficiency and omni procs
mighty bramble
eventually you reach a point where every red rank up takes less time then the last and then you start to get crazy scaling but it takes a long long time to get there
nimble atlas
i've been playing just a little over a month.
warm grove
yeah that's gonna take at least a good 4 or 5 months before it isn't that much of a struggle for salts anymore
nimble atlas
ah that sounds fun :')
i'm mostly investing oranges into the refinery speed in the salt lick, don't know how much it helps but anything to speed it up
I just got the vman yesterday too to help with sampling a lot.
mighty bramble
i'm mostly investing oranges into the refinery speed in the salt lick, don't kno...
i'd hold off on that for the time being, it's better to just turn them into better salts
nimble atlas
alright.
mighty bramble
you'll want a ton of blue salts for construction
nimble atlas
Well I can't really progress much so i'm just farming cards and the like rn. It's div jail for me so everyone except one character is in the prison at all times.
:')
mighty bramble
oh yea the early div jail is a pain
it at least gets somewhat better once you unlock the goat because it allows you to be in two jails at the same time
prime hinge
should i do dk for my 8th character? i already got 1 of each and a jman
white lintel
ah man I didn't know arctis was lurking, i'm cooked
lolol
mighty bramble
hey arctis, thank you for making lab so much more bearable
nimble atlas
it at least gets somewhat better once you unlock the goat because it allows you ...
that's my goal, unlock the goat lol
white lintel
hey arctis, thank you for making lab so much more bearable
you're welcome
white lintel
hey arctis, thank you for making lab so much more bearable
w mutual servers btw
mighty bramble
ah i see another blasphemous enjoyer
prime hinge
lab? more bearable? what is this wizardry
warm grove
lab is forgettable later on
mighty bramble
he's a bear that makes lab better, what's not to get?
prime hinge
i dont doubt but sucks having 6-7 of my characters stuck in there
mighty bramble
not once you get arctis
he just makes it so your characters are always active in lab, uploading is only needed for XP
prime hinge
oh that sounds really nice
when you unlock that?
hexed shoal
lab is forgettable later on
Arctis clutch frfr
mighty bramble
relatively early into w5
nimble atlas
second god, w5
mighty bramble
you just need to place all your chars on the div altar for a few days
prime hinge
ah so i still get a couple of days atleast then
this w4 pushing is rough coming from w3
white lintel
lab is forgettable later on
you wouldnt forget about it if not for me
warm grove
of course, arctis and omni, the truly goated gods
mighty bramble
yea i unlocked omni yesterday and it's soo good
just tripling the speed of multiple slow skills
prime hinge
cant wait to join everyone else in pet trades praying for a doot trade
warm grove
nah just forget doot exists and use pocket div
mighty bramble
at least you can get a guaranteed free doot trade these days by posting about being in the top 1% of the tome on reddit
prime hinge
that do something similar im guessing? just less broken but easier to get
white lintel
youre not losing out on much without doot ngl
warm grove
a few atoms and a bit of afk% gains total, but not much else
mighty bramble
also +100% deathnote kills with the insect and 3x printer with the rabbit
doot is still very good
warm grove
both are situational at a point but yeah
alright i'll be back later gotta do more work
sly nova
spark granite
i have a hard time deleting random quest given equipment on the off chance i might need it for something random. can anyone help me free up space with stuff i really dont need
sly nova
i have a hard time deleting random quest given equipment on the off chance i mig...
Delete that jman trophy
mighty bramble
all stater hats can be gotten as mob drops
spark granite
all stater hats can be gotten as mob drops
oh fr?
mighty bramble
yea they're all rare but they can be dropped
spark granite
Delete that jman trophy
why
mighty bramble
also those gloves and the shank can easily be recrafted, the tara talisman is a shop purchase and you don't need more premium hats then you can wear
prime hinge
ugh i need to do the same thing and clean out my storage
sly nova
Clean
spark granite
i normally put a different premium hat on each guy to differentiate
buoyant sonnet
Carrot bow, Tara talisman, crude hatchet & all the starter hats + cowboy hats & engineer hat can be ditched
sly nova
Ok?
spark granite
are those not technically exclusive
spark granite
wtf is this helmet i found in the wiki
sly nova
wtf is this helmet i found in the wiki
Lava
native forge
it's lava one
jagged vessel
should i put 0 points in exp and storage for anvils and 600 in speed?
toxic coyote
what is the 2nd best class for lava skull after SB?
sly nova
Bubo?
buoyant sonnet
Carrot bow, pretty common drop from W1 carrotmen
Tara talisman, shop item at Amarok store
Crude hatchet, literal level 1 quest item that serves no purpose after making copper tools
Starter hats, rare drops in w3 & w4
Engineer hat, get unlimited supply from the W1 portal bird through a chat command
Cowboy hats, those are the only exclusive ones to 1 per character, but are also not used for anything 😅 (tbh I premiumified one for my jman)
sly nova
Or bm?
native forge
wtf is this helmet i found in the wiki
comes round with this title
sly nova
comes round with this title
I need that red robe tbh
sly nova
I'll take taht one too
sly nova
Depends on what you already have, but bubo pushes better and helps alchemy
"helps me with the lava skull rift"
mighty bramble
should i put 0 points in exp and storage for anvils and 600 in speed?
early on put some in cap, later you can respec to go all in on speed
native forge
Tbh bm better
if it won't accidently whale all skulls to oblivion
buoyant sonnet
You mean helps with killroy weeklies?
For archers I would recommend an SB over BM, BM NEEDS a Vman to push
zenith hare
You mean helps with killroy weeklies?
For archers I would recommend an SB over B...
other way round
sly nova
Bro needs help
zenith hare
sb is utter trash without vman
buoyant sonnet
Bm whale is only useful with Vman as well 🤣
sly nova
18 hours?
zenith hare
the 2x plunder spawn + auto plunder mob past 100 flag is amazing
sly nova
Let's gooooo 🤑🤑🤑
zenith hare
Bm whale is only useful with Vman as well 🤣
active sb itself just isn't useful before vman
at least active bm is fastest for w3
native forge
on killroy bm is better than sb
sly nova
Update soon yesss
native forge
and hunter is for TDs too
Stop right 'ere !
true hamlet
Can we snare the mobs infinitely now? I want td to be more obselete
true hamlet
That soda can is..
native forge
white lintel
im tired grampa
white lintel
huh?
pine fiber
I thought sam and golem were mythic companions, not only golem 
native forge
"Huh?" Is the answer
dementia
pine fiber
might have to do tasty treat instead of that
sly nova
I thought sam and golem were mythic companions, not only golem <:KEKWait:1059175...
Golem the easiest one to get
pine fiber
yeah but already got one
pine fiber
oh lol
sly nova
pine fiber
so you have 50 opals? 
sly nova
No
pine fiber
and 6x villager xp? /s
sly nova
It's not double
pine fiber
it'd be bonkers if they stacked
sly nova
I wish it was
indigo stratus
I'll pull free samurai once I'm finished pushing hole
pine fiber
wdym finished
white lintel
"Huh?" Is the answer
why are you getting old?
zenith hare
ah man, I got my 3rd bag from scratch <:GuyMontag:859584397539278859> I just wan...
+5 cosmo balls
pine fiber
well ok, but I need balls first
sly nova
ah man, I got my 3rd bag from scratch <:GuyMontag:859584397539278859> I just wan...
🤑 pull 5 nametag and not a single bag
shut hull
ah man, I got my 3rd bag from scratch <:GuyMontag:859584397539278859> I just wan...
Only 3?
zenith hare
balls you can get anytime, cosmo balls is event only
pine fiber
yeah only 3, its not like you could use more than 1
mighty bramble
greenstacking the ungreenstackable
shut hull
greenstacking the ungreenstackable
Okay
zenith wasp
What is the best talent layout for level 66 hunter, W3
mighty bramble
What is the best talent layout for level 66 hunter, W3
shut hull
What is the best talent layout for level 66 hunter, W3
!it has it
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zenith wasp
thanks
Im getting more info on star talents though
I'm looking for base class talents
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pale thicket
what does it mean obominations are coming?