#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮
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K10 has a mittens I think
tbh its not too bad to get nowadays
shove everyone at lanterns for a week or two
why are wow's so slowwwwww
...
Should've neglected rift smh
tbh wouldnt even help much
as a lot of my bonuses would be gone
Up to sneaking mastery?
Ah
How many secs on my orb do I need for rift 8
you need only talent level 100 as long as you use 4 move speed potions and attack speed bonuses and mana PO box
Ok thanks
Sorry for the probably stupid question, but I've just found out about the library in W3 - why are some of the books not available for check out?
Cause they can be boosted in other ways.
Like the talents in the second tab that increase a talent on the first tab based on a vial from alchemy
Ohh, OK, that makes sense! Thank you guys 🙂
Np
am i reading the merit guide correctly?
i have red, orange, blue, green all above rank 3
therefore i should have at least 3/5 refinery salt cost purchased?
yes
and is it generically worth purchasing any chip or jewel i can if it's not too difficult to come by or are some so bad it's not worth it at all
i can purchase... defense chip lol
why would you not is the question
that's what i'm thinking
resources i can get forever for limited time stuff
but maybe some chip is so dogshit it's not worth
you wont even feel a dent in resources for the dogshit ones
any advice on scaling build rate? i have full exp cogs but my buildrate is 10k/hr ... against a 50M collider and 1m poisonic elder
add in time
it takes time.
more xp you get, the better ur xp cogs get, the more you level up, etc. ur level scales ur build rate, especially moreso when you have carpenter
get maybe 1/2 zen cogs will help a bit too, though thats a lot of gems
Thankfully collider isnt really important for you atm
Ive heard, but im pushing into W6 soon and think my build rate is a little behind
.. a bit
The vault and a second DK
does zen have xp rates?
yes
got both finished
How many red salt do you have?
yo guys, does imbued shockwave scale from my shockwave slash level? aka if i level up my press to activate it will buff my passive damage too?
just keep only your 2 dks, xp cogs and bubbles leveled, rest is just time
DK building rate increases a lot with red salt
rank 7
So if you have like 10k red salt you gain 100% bonus building speed( depends on the lvl of the passive)
the buyable cogs are a pretty big buff as well, 143% xp x8 
o the heck.. ok guess im saving for those
Also the small bubble carpenter is pretty good
+x% build speed for every lvl of construction
what level would you recco for that bubble by the time im W6?
Dont know, Im in world 4 lol
Feel like time played a better indicator, it isnt really that hard to push w6 
But my carpenter is lvl 26
!merit4
1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.
yikes, I did not do that right
is there any wya to tell roughly how many ores you are using per hour via IT or anything?
how does rift
you rift
uhhh, work
it rifts
(idk im W3)
(it has pretty cool shit ive been told tho)
walk past the rift (portal) and it will tell you the task ;-;
Using in what? Or do you mean producing?
you have to complete the NPC task to unlock it though
i want my prints to be enough to match consumption
dont want to run out of iron lol
Refinery page in IT can give you that info
no that i know, but do i have to complete the quest on every character and reach octodars on every character or like
why would refinery tell me how many ores im using in the forge?
No, once the task is completed its open for everyone 
but i still have to reach octodars?
No
oh ok
forge just tells me when it will run out
as long as 1 character completes it youre good
that's good that's great
same with equinox
refinery just talls me salt related info
ooo under 2 days until i can continue salting bc red rankup pog
doesnt hurt too see how far you can get, but if you've only hit octodars on 1 character, it might be better to just progress characters first
Thats the only thing that will take rss hourly, so if it isnt used in salts its not gonna be an issue
Oh I thought you meant for that
Forge liekly doesn’t have any tools for that since our forge time gains with archers can clear out a whole stack of ore in one claim.
I believe you could manually do the calculations and set up a spreadsheet tho, I could take a crack at it in a bit, just lmk I’d be happy to
well the rest of them are in lab jail and i was pushing with my es to troll but i noticed the rope next to the portal and lo and behold rift was there
RSS?
i'll see if i can get drone i suppose
resources
ah right
archer talent
yeah that thows a wrench in calculations
what are you using iron on hourly? O.o
8 brimstone slots
uh
wait so how do i access the rift if not through octodars (i have not left the rift since i unlocked it)
yall think this would be enough to run 8 max forge upgrade brinstone slots without taking int oeffect archer talent?
top right of the map 
oh wait did you mean bars?
oh right i did notice that tp ok thanks
Is this to max the bar vial or for multo loggo
more then enough
aight ill let the other 5 prints be for other ores
working on trying to get to 300%
300% = better prints
you can kinda tell what skill i favour
Mining is my favorite too don’t worry
god i love mining
i love it so much that my main miner's prints are just bearly stronger then my log prints
tho
its slowly tilting as i level up Multi loggo
i seriously just hit the 7.9% to NOT get a new recipe
You using bargain tags yes?
3 new recipes and i got another cabbage
all my mining relating things are slowly being blaenced torwards chopping
on shimmeron atm
its uh
starting to get very very slow
maybe 1 upgrade everey day or two with 90% off
gotcha, lemme see if i can find out how the multo loggo bubble scales
Question: if I put a ribbon on a meal that already has a ribbon, does it delete that old ribbon or swaps it out?
once i get W2 dementia skulled ima probs either go back blood bone farming for shrines and xp/cash
or
gmush farming for warrior's rule and the other rules soemwaht
removes/deletes iirc
or fuses to get the next tier if they are the same
could be wrong but i remeber hearing that from somewhere
Ok thanks. I forgot I had the jack pot ribbon but I already put one of the other ribbons I got on my cabbage heh
and when i cant get shimmeron im working on this untill i get to 1m sand stockpiled then ima stop working on it
i could be wrong
i havent reached W4 but i vaguely recall some things that lava or other said
Ok, understandable
!ribbons
Combine before meals = A OK
Put on meal and put the same tier on that meal = it combines
Put on meal and it already has a lower tier = it gets new tier ribbon, old is lost
this might help? i thinkl?
i love you so much, you give me hope in the world
lmao
thanks for the encouragement and glad i can help with that lol
130 warriors rule in w3 <3
Awesome, thanks
im so close to getting the next coin
should have it by the time i finish Dem skulling W2
I had it at 25 in w5 
warriors rule indeed
what does the red mean again btw
also my current bubble levels atm
means its bellow the efficiency threshold you set
Yo the w2 guy? Is w3 tf?
w4 in a year 
something like that
hopfully before 2026
vault helps and hinders me
Gotta max it before moviing
helps make othere things easeir to do
hinders becasue other things that i didnt wantto do becasue theyd be very very hard to do-
bro did not jsut tell me to max vault
welp
guess im in W3 until W9 gets released
(context)
Ooo im close to maxxing carry cap
ill get that after i get dreadlo coins unlocked
also gotta love this
That's a lot of coins
Oo speaking of tome
it is going well
question
it says it gives me damage but is that true?
did u get to w4 now?
or u checking what u would have
im in W3
looking at IT
well urs is higher than mine is rn
I just got starsigns up zulqiang
Niucee
oh is it zui
ye
my beloved
working on it
how far you're into w3 zui?
they could enter w4 instantly
idk
tbh
hard to tell
whenever they want
ik but he doing the challenge
i have better stats then some W5ers apparently
yea
everyone has unlocked every map
except for the mines
isn't nchizoar easy?
'then' ?
aren't you "world locked" till you do nightmare?
nah
that was just something that is bound to happen
i got NA chiz killed as soon as i got the keys
then i don't get the point rn
zui how good is ur PO im curious
"challenge"
"only" ~12x mine
i missed a few days :(
also only recently was i able to start doing these
this is something i still cant do
is this good enough fishing eff(maestro buff finally applied for fishing!!!)
for the first fish decent rates
fuck
oof
ty for reminding me to gamble
storage is nice i guess
Im saving my points for whatever next event gives
Oooo
your on your way to reaching caulifish
which is either 500k eff or 500M
i mean then why you don't unlock w4?
Im not going for those fish rn I just want good basic fish rates
the f irst 4
What is better, troll set or diabolical set?
but caulifish vial
what does it give lemme check
might be as good as mine idk
cant check my barb atm
your barb has an atm?
um this bonus is pointless rn for me
w/ how far he is in w3 your damn right(the atm is clearly just mugging the maestro)
its making bank but i cant check for a few hours
210 barb is actually crazy
lmao
my question remains, why he is captive on w3 then?
I just got this vial
it's ok i'm early w1 and i already have rift so i think i'm doing pretty good
i havent really done anyhting big enouhg
now this is a good one
Im waiting patiently for the end of lab jail
in W2 i got the GSB vial
sorry the what vial
W3 idk
@woeful karma
godshard
lmao nice
check its lvl
What
Im waiting for the bug to be fixed still 😦
godshard vial w2 is insane
rip
i could use that wep pow rn
should I wait to make my 8th character in order to unlock more easily the dream of having everyone at lvl100?
everyone is really near to that milestone
no
do you want everyone at exactly 100 or like what
equinox
oh is that equinox nvm then
ur gonna get lvl 100 in like 2 minutes
maybe talk to Rocklyte again?
yeah level 100 is easy
5.7k I can reach this in 4 hrs
used reclaim and it didnt give it
:(
reclaiming the quest does not give you a new talent book, it still gives you quest kapow
Big damage
dude w4 has given me so much xp it's actually insane
espetially if universal and not just on my barbarian
yea its w4 your gonna love this
its universal and passive like alch
then what should I make them
so do my blood bones
I have one of eacj
like look at the difference
This is my ES stats, Idk if I could use more damage or not?
seems fine to me
this item shouldnt exist
Studious Quester star talent is too good lol
depends on your current classes
More dmg is more drop for ES
yea but my max is already 110 oh thats the other quest talent yea its good
damn
your stats are just a bit better then me
damage tho i have you beat thankfully
Is there a lab guide? Can't find any in the pinned section
(but only on my main warrior)
damage beat mid w3 vs early w5 is actually crazy
hoenstly a goated Stalent
why is this only level 9
oh damn i need to upgrade it again
skilling build extra points slapped into it
i think lv 50 will be enought for everyone
thankfully the talent redo vault upgrade exists
reminder DO your killroy your salts will thank you
totally average W3 skilling star talent build moment lmao
i remember upgrading useless star talents and i had trouble getting star talent reset pots
I have these anyways
if anything it makes minmaxing the whole star talent thjing easeir
and I can craft them
yeah but vault free
and up to 20 times a day
Can anyone help me with this, pls, I just need a lineup
Mimic in the front( I think)
the main reason I care for PO box(fishing, its always just fishing)
I'm wondering if it's worth pushing all my characters fishing levels to level 50 for the skill mastery
at least bring them all to 50, it's quite easy
if it gives eff or prowess probably
looter swap with bone and borger swap with another refill
Level 500 gives +5% all skill efficiency
wait where's my drone...
Okay, then yeah, it might be worth the trouble
do i need to build it...
i need more PO boxes :(
(working on PO fishing)
My fishing eff is time locked rn(rex rings)
classic fishing
always being 140billion steps behind everything else
It look like this?
at least its higher then everyone else W3 and W4 id assume even if my barb is mining oriented
Some artifacts give you chance to receive more PO box
Oooo
samee
nice nice
weapon power finally outscaled base damage
Itd have done so earlier
but I got screwed over
i have also killed a few myself
(i need to kill more its been 2 worlds since ive killed any)
you could prob get that to lvl 10 or 11 rn knowing u
too many dmg buff in mid/late game make weapon power a bit powercreep
out of all of these i have not touched rats since i left W1...
HOW ZE FK
no multikill on any of those???
rats is the only one that was killed without multikill
one sec leme check IE
thanks god this might work smoothly
still absurd
idk how to check death note on IE
anyone knoiw?
2nd pink vial!!!
I think its under w3
or account
did you greenstack the pete quest item
next lvl 7 vial
looking
it can happen, but quite long
ty
!IT
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oh it showed up, I see that was ur w1?
this one is better than current ie
Ie is good for autoreview
issue with IT is it is updated to my current progress
i havent touched IE since ileft W2
toolbox is better otherwise
ah
current state of my account's DN
gotta get that desert up
your poor sandy pot prints
workin on it
yeah...
Im gonna start working on blue skulling them all once I get 100k all in w3
did you unlock w4 and w5
not yet
NOPE
sandy pots are not even half my gmush prints
finally I can level this(started printing it bc I finally stopped needing more iron bars for a little while)
the lab jail and divinity can bring huge buffs, actually all the skills in w4 and w5
thios is a great vial
if you can, use one char to rush, then bring all others to the next town
oh hell yueah final print happened
should I?
or shoulda I let it become more speed % via orange salts
huge
and salt lick
up to you lol
Should I work on being able to craft this for 1 character?
im only up to here
I guess it should be upgrade whenever you can afford
working on this
or is the volumetric bag better to save up for
but now ill be working on other salt stuff
mainly void gear n stuff
I just noticed I can pink this one
so closeee
I forgot about the glublin masacre
do you have a picture of it
This is for materials, all but mining and chopping need nutto salts, the other 2 require purple
Ooooo
nicee
Skip these
I skipped this to the next pouch, cuz nullo salt takes too long
Later pouches in tab 5 are easier to make
Oh, skip all w4 bags?
Im not touching sigils they are pretty mid till later
And require no salts
hoenstly im looking forward ot this the most atm next red salt rankup
You need salts for more important things than carry cap
Fair, this could be a better plan?
do you still have more chars?
1000%
I have 8 total chars
Crafting tab 6 after tab 5 is super easy barely an inconvenience
1 cooking, 1 maestro skilling leveling rn, 2 dudes doing my kills
I could maybe use green salts on my tools
What is the average damage needed to have a smooth play in w4
since (correct me if I'm wrong) I probably will have to do that to advance to tab 5 tools
no you are correct
full lab jail is lame
40th w1 achieve nearly forgot about these
+5 goblet max lvl
Alright, so I only need salts for lustre tools
can someone party me so I can do this real quick?
and meaty traps
kills can be earn much easier later, you shall use one to rush to w5 first for the divinity, it can provide an always-active in lab, but no exp gain, use when the line widths are enough
i also need to do that with rats, which server you on
which server
cheese 16
Is this worth it?
w1 base town
Yep
that isnt as fun and im about fun when playing games
It has dmg buff on it
rushing just leads to me being overwhelmed
Alright, will need more bunny critters, but that should be the easy part
Yep bunny critters easy
Mineovels hard
no, not that rush, just if you can
Okay, after the next traps, I probably will have all characters do the bunny one
ty for party im doing both those achieves rn
I need 5 more mineovels for that golden glove for vman
god i love es
Yep es good
@silent ermine it will be about 5 mins and 2.5mins
That's 7.5 min
Ngl pet trading is comp (I talk in this chat once a month)
I didnt feel like doing addition I already gotta do enough math for fishing optimization bc I hate how low it is
are there any other party achievements
I guess no
I'm doing pet battle so can't check anything else
w1 no but doot murder is a party type achievement if it is one(I cant remember)
need 4 guys to cheevo dance
doot achievement is bugged
Should I push rift further? (I'm at rift 16)
you can do hourglass and finish it
push it as far as you think you can
need 3 more dancers on cheese 16
I can go
ill join real quick
thats a free achievement in w4 right?
whats a good time to go for 3rd mega reset (on roo) reset point wise
Gelloso is ther
yep
yooo
huge
more arcade balls
YEahhh
more gambling!!!
as soon as you can till you get all 10
It does recommend me to have a max book level of 180
all 10 what
keep dance to help anothers
but do I really need it to be that high?
all 10 mega fish or sth. i don't remember their names
back to murdering rats
I forgot about respawn time thisll take a bit longer for rats
no no no im asking how many reset points should i get for the 3rd megafish reset
as many as you can b4 u get bored of it
22 good enough?
check w1-w2 pins
i got maestro7th who should i take a dupe of as a 8th char
there's a roo guide in there
that chart is outdated
Does rift have a time limit after completing the challenge to go through the portal?
someone said DK for construct xp but im not sure
only one maestro pls
especially with vault
ik
the same logic should still apply, the important part is that you shouldn't fisheroo reset
but yeah
as i was going to say
working on that now
have 8 of my 9 players working on W2
(my first one is doing tree quest)
so ill get W2 fully purpled within a few days
(ill be done with the mimics in an hour ortwo)
wanna help with this? cheese 16
probably not
plys W2 us way shorter for some reason idk why
is that the best option?
one more DK, ES, and SB, or you can wait till more master classes come out
shorter then W1 and W3
cheese 16
I live for cheese 16
yes, and then another es
sure
I favorited it
anywhoser
ima head out now yuall
best of luck wit the grind 🦾
I dont think im ever NOT on cheese 16
just like how i am rarly on another server then dice 1 lol
have you done the hi achievements
except when forced due to party dungeon
I was able to clear rift 16, but I decided to wait until the flag ability finishes, is that fine to do?
Gelloso, up plataform
yep sounds about right
Those are easier
I prefer some servers with only few players, often rabbit and mayonaise
go to an overpopulated world and spam Hi
I bet
but the one where u gotta do it on one server
(more gambling)
is a big annoyin
it isn't, you get it way before the other one
I clicked accept
there it goes it takes a min sometimes
dignity ringi s pricy for me but I could do this cheaply
i can farm plops easily so it's ok but i can't be assed lmao
fish 😦
all about arcade is worth doing
printer
working on it I get only 1k/hr
wrong upgrade
i would save once golden ball is back in rotation
yea im upgrading that rn
it's at level 1
did u spend ur killroy on arcade?
I max this very first while others stay at 20-30
200 rats left
i only spend it on arcade
I spend it on other things too
mostly salts rn they give beeg bonuses
nothing else is worth it
180/500
and are slow till tier 22+
why get refinery cycles just use your dk
I get like 60 refinery cycles fro mkillroy/week rn
and dk is like 18/day
that's 4 uses of the skill which refreshes daily
and they stack
yea but its increasing
yea but gambling
I prefer making my construction good
just got to w3, and the 3d printer. trying to figure out the best things to start out printing. but the guides im finding are mostly either endgame stuff, or i dont understand them.
should i just stick with the items needed for the refinery stuff for now?
First print to keep your refinery running while you don’t check it
Then print things for your stamps or alchemy bubbles if you want, otherwise wait until you get better skilling things
yeah that makes sense, thank you!
i wish there was a guide for like, what to do when you first get to X
yeah i did see that was a priority, but i didnt have w3 last time i checked gems, i should have enough now
done, thx guy
Im not done yet but serenty helping me w/ that
ok
close to 17
@silent ermine Rat achievement get! Next: wode boards
are you not doing the achievement with your dk/es
I'm.
Im doing it on my barb bc my DK is worse
which cheevo is this?
how is your dk worse exactly
lower skill points due to being in lab for 1.5 weeks
your dk/es would get you done in a quarter of the time it takes with your barb
Go kill planks
doesn't matter, as long as you have the hand leveled you will be done quicker
also have you been pushing with your bb instead of your dk
its too late at this point wode boards respawn pretty fast for me
Is there any way to get more colosseum tickets?
Nope
nope, you get 3 daily and that's it
vault upgrade
vault upgrade, one ticket wins 2
oof thanks
sorry, earn*
you should also complete the colo quests with all of your characters to get more tickets
Congrats, keep going, I still leave my char there with pet battle
vault upgrade turns those 3 daily into 6 (which are given when you consume the tickets, not when they drop)
50% on wode
Only 3 per days through all colo
Day 6 of trying to get the last chemical plant to grow... I swear I'm checking every 10 minutes
6 with vault
3 but they give you 2 per turn in
yes, i meant do the quests with every character since doing the quests themselves drop extra colo tickets
done wode
bye for now guys, need dishes and sleep
i love farming woodular circles!!!!!!!!!!!!
What do I need to actually beat frosty peaks pet battle
What does the Croakin' Froge achievement reward?
just achievement count for task board
What class is best to max for dungeon runs? Also I heard void walker was bad for dungeons, I haven’t unlocked it yet but can someone explain why?
max damage to bosses? BB
ES is better at killing more mobs in dungeons though
and vman is bad for dungeons because it doesn't have any good buffs or special attacks
If you have enough skilling food, it's useless. even then, 2% is nothing in the grand scheme
Is there a proper formula for Blood Marrow available anywhere, the effects of the skill seem significantly lower than the in game description or wiki formula would imply
Example being at Lv 70 of Blood Marrow (0.51% on the skill) the total bonus with 130 meal Levels is only 1% even though if multiplicatively stacking with itself, as it both states and the wiki formula implies, the value should be (1+0.0051)^130 = 93.7%, and even assuming it's not as stated and additive 0.51*130 would be 66.3% so it seems strange
its at +32% from skilling food
bro roo scales so bad
what crystal megafish u on?
9
zamn
so close 1 more
sad samurais one?
leeks
lmao
So it does something at least, keep it on someone but I personally wouldn't bother trading it around to minmax
my giant chance is 175k so theres no chance this week
huh is there some clarification about how the 0.51 is being used since as just a raw exponential increase a 0.51% increase (or even rounding down to 0.5% if the UI is rounding up) should be significantly higher than 1% at 100+ iterations
the last star sign i need is the +50 luck one so its not rly a rush
Its my only good one of those so far
I was gonna wear it regardless atm
are there any specifically important alchemy bubbles for pushing
do regular upgrade stones affect this?
armor stones
I was specifically asking about misc stat
each ring gives me +20k eff rn
aw man
what should I replace these 3 w/(weapon I already know there aint anything for it)
amarok
for skilling?
fishing based skilling if possible
Is 15k progress a decent start with bubo? (I don't have level 200 talents yet)
!fishchart
okay, so it's bad ;-;
does action speed from Action Frenzy work with construction?
ty going through the craft menu is a bit disorienting
I can get that chestplate
yeah, I guess 15k seconds is bad... 😭
there's commands for mining, catching, chopping and trapping as well
you should have a look at those in #bot-commands
it looks like the hat stack for fishing from idle skilling
oh
well I'm not gonna ever touch idle skilling so i just wear any hat
damn I was right
isnt it feb 25th now
extended till 29th or 1st of next month
that date isn't updated, but the event is getting extended to the end of feb
dam=
lasts till march 1
thisd take a while I know bc ive played idle skilling b4
I'm not sure when bubo will be able to have decent alchemy progress
i played for like 30 mins it's not the most interesting
since my talent levels are so limited
I went past teehee 16 b4 idleon released
havnt played it in a WHILE
#💖future-content-blog wtf chess in idleon
When you get to level 200+ on the important talents
also one shot the mobs with poison
whats equinox valley
hell yea
past the rams in w3
Since I think the 3rd and 4th tab is the only ones that matter, here's the talent levels
good samples!
i wouldn't care about bubo besides one daily cc at that lvl
i assume you followed the chart and everything
Alright, it might be a good while before I can truly start with bubo
Not perfectly but yea
not sure how your prints are lower than mine
Im not getting that idle skilling hat
any prowess bonuses in w5?
no royal sampler?
What is the best w2 splice mob
yea not yet im not stronk enough in TD
actually i lied mine's lower
stache
but I haven't resampled in a while i suppose
these were both 500 and 800
so its a huge improvement
You only need Wave 21 in acorn for Royal Sampler
stache is a w3 mob no
I got the maestro buff kama
or am i dumb
for fishing
Ya wait that’s w3.
bro i'm blind
I cant get wave 10 yet
mb, sand giants
i also have the maestro buff but i got royal sampler recently, I haven't resampled though
Have you tried with hunter?
@cerulean axle
explain
Hunter has that and stop right there abilities
also the roots
It will go up soon as you get more lv and skill lv
sweaty?? do you want more samples or not

whats best tower
You'll have to eventually if you want higher waves for souls sadly
for it atleast
early game boulder
go boulder
try to unlock party starters
hitting 1 skill every ~10 seconds is sweaty? 
boulder is only good when you have kraken
huge carry
nah
its a bit more active than I like to be
boulder can carry without krakn
for a TD game micro SUCKS
also if you do it with jman/maestro the whip also pulls enemy back
Boulder is always good for early game
you should be actively leveling and placing towers the whole time... 
the entire point of a TD game IS micro
yea I know
but having to do skill on top of that is too much for my brain
These are the 9 towers, however, the 1st big boost is Party Starter (6th Tower)
depends on the map imo, fireball is busted in the first TD
i would recommend trying to get party starter
what salt req?
Blue (W3)
then I can do it
Kraden is possible to get as well (Green, W3)
If you put down like 6 party starters in range of fireball they 1 hit kill most enemies to wave 60
When using upgrade stones on tools what stats should i give them?
acc
Poisonic needs Purple Salts (W4 Required) and Void requires nutto salts (Requies W5)
you can do it with basic wizards and it's better
fires used to wave 80 
Acc if you need acc, main stat if you need main stat
we talking about early
that more like mid TD
I get overwhelemd
if it can take you to 80.. it can do the waves under it 
thanks
too many mobs w/ the stun
The main problem with basic wizards is they don't scale as good with construction levels
they just get past my entire defense as if its not there
then go poisonic all the way
yeah i have it saved for when people ask
I have a decent build ~wave 15 I could just spam it
got royal sampler!
noice
Nice
guess Ill resample my feesh w/ it in a bit(getting maestro(did maestro to level his td I didnt use his whip) back on his stuff)
multiplicative or addative?
Exp gain? Additive.
you can keep it on 24/7, less of a headache
yeap its nice
When is valenslimes being removed?
Supposedly The 24th on steam and 25th on mobile
1.5x spore samples
march 1st
yooo
Oh?
Idk what I was thinking
Ty both
february 29 is in 3 years, so Lava means march 1st
Was 24th the original, before the challenges?
yup
gonna put royal sampler on any dude when I resample then never remove it
I have an urge to remove it on all my characters. But the effort to do it is a bit much.
I've done my 3 mages
you cap sample % w/o it?
+800 sampled cans
Yeah, by probably 5%
then its technically worth it
For me, I can't reach 90% without royale sampler
nearly first lvl 11
I don't even know when I capped it or where the last of it came from.
probably some bonus u forgot about that got multiplied(vials)
Wtf those things are moving
That's probably it. Vials have changed a lot
vials *1.3
so dead enemies(from the area not wormhole) technically dont delete their object your seeing the icon attached to the object lmao
D yash
I encountered that bug near ish to idleons launch
but for a dif thing the mark thingy on archer
!merit4
1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.
#bot-commands
Sorry
it happens sometimes
Look at that it's just cursed
feb 29th dont spread misinfo
You can't see it?
the video itself was corrupted by discord compression 💀
That thing is moving in there
the tomb stone or dead body
And getting back up alive
if its the tomb stone yea ive experienced the same thing lmao
Dead body
oh thats cursed
No. It is not even close lmao
Tho
I really do need to work on getting my maestro first in choppingfishing catching and maybe Trapping if I can
That eff would be huge I think?
(Mining is a lost cause)
(I cannot get my maestro that high even if I wanted I don't think within half a month or so)
thats a new one
Do you guys think I might be able to reach ruck sack once I level up poisonic more
what is ur fishing eff at anyways?
Question
Does mocking shout effect asking negatively?
oh
No maestro bonus
6x mine now(I got it to above 300k w/ rings)
that multifish chance 🤤
Which might have been back in W2 now that I think about it...
Workinnonnit
What tower should I try to level up a ton once it's time for the final prayer for acorn?
Poggg breakpoint
Lv 210
Now I get +1 to stats
At what point should I stop setting refinery to 0% leveling the red salts?
What rank are you?
let me see real quick
Above 22?
rank 4
After 22 it starts getting quicker
...
lol
I'm rank 8 or 9 and still have it on 0%
It's timegated
A matter of
Is refining early worth jt enough ig
Red salt realistically should forever be on 0%
^^^
okay, I will keep it on for now. There is just upgrades and buildings that require the different salts and I cant produce them much with it on 0
okay bet, thank you guys (:
What rank is orange rq
Oooo
I'm getting closer to 3k STR!!!
Niceee
havent even unlocked orange yet, 10 salts short from unlocking
Yeah
It's been like 3 days since I could upgrade anything salt related
Alright, just thought it might have been eating it all
Their rank 4 red salt
Doesn't it go 50 100 200 400 800?
Or was it slower
Is this a good wave considering only my boulder is only level 33?
Probably?
No idea, it's been ages
I mean
Then agaiyou are W5 and have access to posionic
Ah
Right
True
I'm an anomaly
Wish I had poisinic tbo
I think for pre-poisonic, I think wave 80 is a good stopping point?
I mean
It's higher then what I have atm so that's something
Probably good enough for rn?
I'm only at wave 50
Then again
This was pre party tower mass upgrade
(It's now lv 26, was like lv 3 before)
Mine was level 22 in the run
Kraden was Level 7, stormcaller was level 22 and void was level 1
and frozone was level 12
those were the towers I used
Question
If I'm working on zows
For stuff like boops
Should I be using my strongest attack? (Power strike) for more kills or does it not matter what skill I have because my base damage hasn't changed?
I think it depends if active or afk
Your kraken is higher theb mine by 5 levels and storncaller by 21 lmao
Though the latter will be leveled up next salt rankup
Its Boops
I uh
Don't think you can afk boops?
Man
Getting bone meal is so much easier with MK
I get like 3k each time I kill them now
I remember when I used to only get like 30-70ish a day
I just increased my per hour by like 5x so yea I cnat wait to up this
Nicee
generally which one is better hallow tail (+30% multi) or eyes (10% mob respawn)
how do i progress lab exactly?
jail em
put them in lab, they get xp per hour based on lab eff, more lab lvl = more connection range
lab nodes very good 👍
bump
What is the best set of cards for cooking?
uh, that's werid imo, I would think mob respawn is better, but according to afk info that is correct
I used deatheyed pendent back in W1/2
30% multikill can be a lot better
Just how +15% damage can net yoy less kills/gains then +15% multikill
I mean I hit pretty high multikill, it seems negligible but apparently not
How high is pretty high?
around 3k
Ah
I knoe I can reacha round 27x MKT on gmush
Idk what total % of multikill that is for me tho
3k seems pretty good I'd assume?
there's a percent above it I think
Ik I'd have to go check idleon tho lol
believe its just strength and all stat buffs 
pretty sure its the other way around for active play 
afks a whole different system
hm ic, ig that's why I keep thinking it's weird
Are these crystal monnsters supposed to take forever to kill?
lol
those ones are stronger then normal ones
so they can be harder to kill relative to where youre at
Are they worth killing?
maybe?
Probably not worth half an hour if that's what you're asking
Yes imo
I mean now that you have it, it's worth ig
but in general, just seeing your damage, crystals arent worth starting
worth depending on how long it takes
They will despawn if they leave
i claimed weeks worth of crystals on a low dmg barb and i remembered to never do that again cus of how long it took
no...
But they will respawn over the course ofns week tho
Yep :D
Didnt happen for me 
Did lava change it within the past few updates?
They do despawn
Might not be additive
Or might be a different multiplier
I was going to day
it is additive (if you unequip and re-equip it)
finally unlocked character 5
maybe im misremembering but pretty sure ive left that island and went back into it without them despawning before 
if u leave crystal island they all despawn
Yeah that's what happened to me a few months ago
Do t care to test it again with another week's worth lmao
many times ive accidentally clicked crystal island on accident without any fighting gear
