#midgame-chat-w3๐งw4๐ฎ
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instead of which one?
You seem to not be the only one lately. Havent experienced it myself but it's possible Lava messes something up and the performance tanks for some
Doing Arena runs with good pets setup lags the game, it's not monolith
Isn't monolith just gonna perma freeze the battle
he meant using it
Is there a way to get rid of hatched creatures?
Delete them
How?
maybe try the blur filter on menu-> options?
Go around the pages man 
I did, must be blind
Go to database > storage > trash and click on the pets you wanna delete
Thank you very much
idk sorry i had no issued with arena using ratler and drummer
It's not my pc either the game is just fried
first blunder hero throphy. who should i choose to have it?
Is trapping affected by skill afk gain rate yes or no
Skill afk gain only affects:
Mining, Chopping, Fishing, Catching, Cooking and Lab
I think I got very lucky here, I got this trophy from active play ๐ฎ
My upgrade vault button in the top left disappeared from one of my slots, any way to get it back? :(
Meaning sampling trophy
who has the chart for the right time to rank up salts
Meh, ye
Btw, good for early on, since there isn't much early on for trophies
It's gone from my slots above lvl 50 too.
๐
Guys I think I know why the game is lagging so much in the arena pet war. Because of the looters ability to copy others ability it will copy the monolith and will just keep on freezing the game over and over.
What wave do u lag on?
I should have done this before I unlocked a monolith dammit
around 130
And blame it on monolith? 
yeah idk what else to blame?
Arena usually lags for all
that sucks
I think it's there as a tutorial feature or something cause you can still accees it from the codex.
Just if there is a projectile stuck on the screen even after leaving breeding (smol chance to happen) that means u are officially laging
yeah I got the sixth slot anyway but I wanted the other bonuses aswell but its whatever
Do you put other characters other than the 2 DKs in the cog board at any point or keep the rest of them in the cog factory forever?
It will be so useful when it's add to another 74 lucky lads
Only the DK's the rest are just for cogs
and focus on EXP cogs
Oh I didn't know, luckily I said f it and went for 200 yesterday (took 1.5h) and I unlocked mono today
Can anyone help with (ok, now it's peak gaming!) quest? I can help with it in return.
did it lag for you too?
That's what I got going on now, but I don't even claim the yellow or red cogs anymore. I can claim the purple ones as fast as I can delete them now. So it feels like a waste to have them sitting in cogs instead of on the board yk
Nah, no mono so it wasn't laggy, I didn't even have to turn anything off
Aka needs someone with S and P
Kitchens we're running and all
Yeah so Im guessing mono is the problem damn it
You'll get there
hopefully gonna have to do it without looter at least
miasma will probably work too
instead of looter
What's your tank pet power?
11k planning on getting a better one tho
Ah yeah.. ok
Cursory would probs be the best replacement though
Mine was 25k, didn't drop in health substantially so would not have needed miasma
Shields were set up before they got too strong
Yeah, probably just increase pet damage sources to make it a little faster
yeah
alr thanks and you had no lag whatsoever right?
I could even run it perfectly with high performance turned off until w185
But it also depends on computer haha
yeah then monolith was def the problem
hahaha thats not the problem
at least what are your specs?
I don't bother with specs, now that I think bout it, it probably wouldn't matter since it's a 300$ laptop
At least I don't bother for the one I used
if i turn my bowman into a siegebreaker does he lose his catching skills and shit?
hahaha okay I have a 1200$ gaming pc so that wouldn't be the problem
so theres no point to not turn him into an SB?
Always promote
ok ty
It even has talents to boost catching
he keeps everything and unlocks more stuff
Used my spare so I can play other games 
oh perfect ty heaps was a lil scared, first time getting to this point hahaha
hahahah smart
wow SB just bumped my damage like 500k
How does divinity works when it comes to doot. I got it, and not all my chars are in the lab
level 2 makes so much sense now. Thankss!
not long anymore been at it for 4 H
needed the healing eurly game
Looter just copies a random thing you've unlocked
So you could get things like cursory, fastidious, opticular
And miasma
It's a lot faster
But hey, nearly there so it doesn't matter
good to know if he ever request a higer pet round
Yeah, I guess
So trying to get to the first zone of w4, and gobos quest has me sitting in the cooking area waiting on turkey to cook? is this right?
it's fine he wont need to do it anymore until Lava releases more pet arena
๐คฃ imagin round 400 for increse in talent levels
Sad to lose 3-4 afk hours
Someone did 850 so idk
Is there any benefit to greenstacking?
dmg from lab
Damage and equinox
Im guessing its a later node yea?
And it looks clean
yea
tru
What stats are best for blood berserker
Like in the blood berserker tab
Oka
what are you going for?
Damage
anyone got the guide to w4 territory fights?
For all classes, u can use this:
!guide
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
thanks friend
I'd say dont worry as much about the active talents for BB at first, till you promote to DB he's going to be ass active
@crude hamlet but btw, u need to log into IE
IE?
what is best team for this (without Peapeapod)
Just get peapod
it takes forever and i want to progress faster in equinox
Buy egg cartons and afk splice every 2 mins
i think egg cartons are not worth 270 gems at all
how many richelin kitchens should i buy? im in world 5 rn
W4 Colo with DK
What is the best card set up for the highest sample size?
for what
for logs
run chopping, skill afk, and wis
Sweet thank you
use chopping foods, and food boost cards + card sets
ok will do.
if you have the star talent that boosts food effects, put some levels into it
big bubble also helps
from baba yaga I believe
no joke my catching samples skyrocketed when i did this
boost your cauldron, it's the option beside bubble, or alch P2W
any team tips?
the option next to bubble is boost
or dr d
looks like you already booked it too, ngl im not that far myself to know what can boost bubble chance
ig you could go for brew speed for more attempts

but is there a way to beat 115 rounds with 4 pets without peapod? i really dont want to farm it now
I'm not sure if this is actually a W3 thing or what's happening...maybe someone can help. I have occasionally been seeing red popups in the Lavaflame style that seem to be updating like a quest, telling me things like "Good job, go get the next creature type!"
I have no idea what quest I'm on or how to track it. Last trigger was at snowmen, it said "I think that was 5 snowballs, yeah, I'm sure it was. On to the next creature type."
The hell is this, fellas?
Achievement regarding giants?
OH YEAH! That looks like it. Thank you both โค๏ธ
my printing is getting a little bit better
With the printer, do i have to go back and get a bigger sample size or does it increase with talents/buffs?
the former
Thatโs a lot
i did itt
can someone explain the death note i read it but i still dont get it
if you have 2x more dmg than monster hp you multikill them, giving you more kills and monster mats, also the more kill of a monster type you have more multikill you have (seen in the skulls in death notw)
Does Fuel Time in refinery mean how long until you run out of resources or how long until you can refine?
how long until it runs out of resources
I'm very confused by rift 6, the skulls upgrade then suddenly stop upgrading? is it just rng?
oh ok that seems rreally good
Do I understand that right, Refinery Throttle, 11th skill for Squire, get's weaker the better your refinery gets? At the start the cycle was 15min, so by gaining, let's say 20 cycles with the skill, it was an equivalent of 5hs of Refinery progress, but if my cycle is 1min 30s now the skill just gives me 30min progress?
yes
50/50 chance
Well that's lame.
its really essential for monster prints
dang thats gonna suck for lava skulls
ok i love trapper drone
so the answer is to just spawnkill then alright
I thought it was not killing an enemy after killing a skull, only kill the skulls
I read that it hurt my head
use es or bubo on auto, u don't need to do it manually
yeah im using bubo cause es is too slow without rift
Should I ribbon my turkey?
Idk how but my sb has a mill accuracy some how
While my main pusher only has 400k
1 more catching lvl til i can finish maestro quests ๐
STR bubble/stamps/shaquracy bubble?
just ballooned it, fk it, time to go for maestro
I have all those on good lvl but it shouldn't be this much
I noticed this when I was upgrading it's bow
Or I wouldn't even know
My SB is at 19M ๐
What is the highest accuracy requirement? Late game
But I can tell why. I keep investing in the STR bubble so my archers kinda benefit from it as a side-effect
To hit the last mob
is there a full "progression guide"? im at world 5 but im stupidly behind on everything else
what's best way to get to biggie hours
!guide
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
Read #lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ pins, there's plenty of good progression tips there and some of which lean heavily on backtracking.
Samurai Guaradian apparently requires 3.8M accuracy
Not much far from reaching that accuracy
Add x1.5 to that for DK to keep his damage intact
I should make Archer my main pusher
im super behind on catching, trapping and worship so i cant even craft any of the world5 stuff and a majority of the world4 stuff ๐ ty tho
Time to backtrack then. Get all of that sorted out, you'll eventually have to. You're not going anywhere without those 3 fixed.
can i beat biggie in the colo for the maestro quest?
Don't worry I give u a tip do skilling do sampling so printing do alchemy and repeat
It will help
So, after W4 when 7/8 characters are in the Lab - what now lol? Do I just keep pushing W4 with one guy, and upgrade alchemy, construction, and every now and then re-do 3d printer?
Or should I go back and do all/more quest?
the first thing. though only do that after you have everyones elite (minus vman)
Keep pushing to W5 with that one pusher, can just leave everyone else jailed in the lab after elite class unlocks. Alchemy and construction can always be done at any time tbh.
In fact there really isn't a time where you shouldn't be doing alchemy. You dont wanna get stat-checked by any mobs
we made it
Alright, yeah all are elites, pushing with Dk - vman gonna be my 10th character
alchemy gives like 10% of ur stats early on
at what lvl should i take my chars out of the lab?
everything else is vastly better
when you reach w5
then they go to the div jail
then back to lab when you get goat god
3 years later?
So after W5 things change with the other characters, or will some always stay in there?
How long does the "lines" get by the end?
yes
im guessing most resources like fishing/chopping/mining will just come from 3d printer?
And later on it gives 99.99%
Once you reach W5 you do what meme_bean wrote here #midgame-chat-w3๐งw4๐ฎ message
The lines can get pretty long with some levels and meal bonuses.
ehhhh
so my quick understanding is that resources come from 3d printer, you have one main pusher and the rest of chars afk lab/divinity
at least for this stage of the game
I'm sorry I meant 199.99% i forgot the 1
pretty much
correct, that's (overall) the fastest way to push w4
hi
hi
How do these stack? 4.0x * 1.3x? 4.0x + 1.3x?
Goat god? Divninity stuff? Wiki doesn't give any hits on "Goat god"
is this game fun?
Goat = Goharut. Check #lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ pins for some solid Divinity pointers. I followed them and it helped immensely.
Try it and decide for yourself
Probably the best idle game I've played.
l played a bit and its pretty fun but ldk if it is fun later on in the game
It is, how much you play for it to be fun will depend on you. If you want to play it low maintenance do it that way, if you wanna min max do that. There's no competing between players so just play at your own pace
But maybe #newplayer-chat-w1๐w2โณ or #idleon-gen-chat is a better channel to ask for stuff as a beginner
hi for div do i have to afk for the full 1hr to get stuff or can i leave after 50min then i have to wait another 10min
I think it's fun but your experience will depend on your preference lol
ok thx
Depends how much later on ur talking about
Got it, thank you!
mid w6 ish
i was pushing world 4 portals with my maestro and i only just unlocked voidwalker, i just got kicked halfway backwards through the world
im bouta air out lavaflames office for the rookie mistake i just made
Well w3 nowadays is mega easy to reach (like a few hours of playing level of easy) so this chat is also for beginners now
is somebody there expert at idleontoolbox? for some reason when i load my data in the other website just dont load.
i've already try to reset sotrage data but nothing happens.
hi does anyone know
Full
I just finished w4 tutorial what should I do?
lab jail
go lab grind
Alright
i just unlocked w5, all my characters are like lab lvl40 (except my pusher), do i grab sm1 as my "new pusher", put my old one in lab and slap everyone else in divination?
what is considered mid or early game?
Question for what to prioritize.
Maybe 1-2 days into world 4, I have 6 elites classes unlocked, with 7th a squire for building benefits. Should be unlocking 8 slot tonight and my SB is pushing world 4.
- Should I make the secret class as my 8slot or another ES for the eventual w5 benefits?
- Should I grind lab or just focus on pushing world 5 and dual grind this w5 divinity thing and lab at the same time?
TIA for advice
secret class and prob do div till goat then lab and push i guess
Cool thanks
Do these stack like 4*1.3 = 5.2, or 4+1.3 = 5.3?
Shaquracy in green caulron helped me a bit
my bloach print is only 12 :/
Yeah it's a slow fish, but you don't need that many levels for it to help a lot in the start
i think my only hope is pushing owl all day
Upgrade vault 
use a not utterly trash set of pets???
4 borgers, 1 forager above, 3 tsars above
Zebra replied in end game
look at the top pin
Meme I have a question
On my sb gmush is only at 10mil kph is it low or am I tripping
weird jank
I should be missing smt ig
i just unlocked all pets "normaly" do i go for every shiny now? or are there some with priority?
I believe shiny speed ones first
To max lvl the shinies faster
It's kind of a question for both w4 and w5 but should I buy the subclass swapper before promoting my 2nd Squire? I don't know if it's better to have 2 Divine Knights or 2 Blood Beserkers and I'd rather swap before I promote than after. (I made the character like a few years ago and am just getting back heavy into idleon)
2 dk is better but 2 of each is playable
It is my third warrior overall, the other 2 are one of each elite path
So I should just keep this one as a 2nd DV?
Yes 2 dk is very nice for construction
2 bb isnโt as relevant because thereโs a lot of cooking bonuses that got added
is there a good guide on what books to checkout first
Where do i get the sampling star talent
ice cream npc
Thank you
wheres the best place to farm distilled water in world 3
In W3 if you want distilled water your best option is just farming crystals so active with a high crystal spawn chance by using cards
Spieces Epoch, 13th skill of Vman works based on worship and trapping of the vman himself, right? Is the bonus global and my BM will get it while gatherijng traps on the drone, and ES will get it while gathering souls on the MSA?
yes, but I believe it needs to be in the preset that the Vman is using at the time
awesome. time to spam some tower deffense with the vman I guess
and I assume remaking all the traps on him to whatever gives 0 critters but most XP will be the most beneficial in the long run?
yeah always go for max exp on Vman
dont forget to give some xp traps to all other characters too of your highest critter
I'm currently on xp mixed with regular drops on all characters as I wanted to push some levels and are in no need for a lot of shinies. But one purely XP trap for continous leveling is a good point for when I go back to getting more shiny
hold up im gonna get shot by bandit bob real quick because someone wanted to see if you could survive his attack
yea i have one turtle xp on all characters then the rest i just spam other critters for refinery and vials
what did leveling this do?
Ayo! Strange question for y'all... How on IdleOn do I deploy my shrines...?!
Damn he only did like 2000 damage, lava must have changed it because it used to do a million or something
its a star talent. only put 1 point into it and you can use the ability to place
make sure to equip it in your attacks
i dont think anything. if anything maybe spawn chance? idk
in star talent tab you have talent called Shrine Architect. put some points in, put it in the quick bar and use it in the map where you want to put shrines, a toolbard for placing shrines will show up
make sure to learn it from the book the mayor drops first, then its on the second star talent page at the bottom
i think doing the ice cream questline
AH.
you should have gotten a book from the icecream NPC, the skill is in the second page of skills, use the yellow arrows
for the achievement trash 1000 pets is that meaning the pets from the dog?
Im on rift 21 I think (land a score of 75 on the pirate flag for the siege breaker) and it wont count the plunderous mob kills? Donโt really know why
breeding in w4
the score is from the coins that drop from every mob once you have the plunderous bonus on
oh ok so not 1000 pets from the dog
so by killing a plunderous mob you get the buff and each skull adds +1 to your flag and you need to reach 75 like that
Holy smakamoly what the hell happened to my dammage!!!!!!!!
you need good movement speed and one shot mobs to get it in a reasonable time
Quick FYI y'all!
prolly the vault
What vault?
why is your damage gold
upgrade vault?
its like that after 10m
It decreased
Valenslime's day might be extended :3
oh ok
Yeah also the fact that lava made the good pendants better
From 300m to that
maybe you unequipped premium items, cards, prayers, weapon
I have everything on as usual
My dmg set I am on
!!!!!!!
And it's on every character
clearly something went wrong
It was ok until I played that damn dungeon!!!!!!
So I killed a plunderous mob and nothing happened they didnโt drop anything or give me a buff
do you have the talent upgraded
Yeah, I have it level 150 and the ability is placed
this one?
Iโm stupid

Thanks so much
don't feel too stupid, at least you read one of the skills, better than 50% of idleon players
are any special items easy to get?
what do you mean by special items
the specials page in the equips
check vman
oh, wings are pretty easy to come by later on when you are rich in keys, keychains are super easy just do dungeons, trophies you can get from various places like the town quests, premium hats drop from events a lot, and nametags sometimes
maybe skilling tab
i'd say that chat rings, and the robe are the hardest things to get
ima be honest i got no clue what any of that is
impossible to get robes without irl
yeah wasn't sure since I haven't been around much but I didn't know of any other ways
well at your current stage focus on doing some dungeons for the stats
Guys, where do I get the never melt ice ?
for dungeons is like the purple coins the outside of dungeons stats?
and does it matter what dungeon?
no, but you should always do W1 dungeon with other people
whats auto arm lv 4 do?
I believe it is the miniature soul apparatus
you can automatically worship totems without going to them in person

then its either the anvil production pipeline or the book reservation system
the anvil one kinda sucks not gonna lie
ahh yeah didnt know what purpose of lv4
It's fixed kinda
maybe change map or server to load your dmg
Lol I haven't done worship in like 6 months and now its so easy with my new tower levels
May Lava himself smite me down because everybody knows worship gets boring
it be like that
im still having fun sorta
its nice
still new ish
im sure it may get old by the end of W3
yeah well once you get to using kraken and you just stall the waves take a long time
The method is you use only boulder rollers for the achievement you never did and then just roll with it
i already had that going on somewhat
need to level it more ig
would be nice
I use like 2 per TD
rest of mostly BR then FM at a 3/1 ratio
Then an optimal amount of PS
why your PS look wierd and lumpy?
level 15
like
extra lumpy
like
SBP lumpy
appearance changes every 5 levels
Ooo lv 15 changes the look again?
yeah
i never noticed much of a change at lv 10
what level your BR and PS?
how uh
how far did you get during that TD?
not sure yet, just spamming next wave constantly
ah
fair
wonder how long it will take me to get there lol
halfway there lv wise on BR
my current setup kinda sucks ngl I was just doing it for the meme
does the PS ever drop down from +4%/L?
the range on it?
if so, i don't believe so because this is the range of my party starter. If you are observant you may notice there is not range bubble. That is because it is larger than the screen
yeah so far it seems to gain +4% every upgrade level
noted so it gets map wide after a certain point
good to know
mine is only at +60%
well at lvl 54 it has a 212% range bonus so taking the fact that lvl 1 doesn't give a bonus yeah 53*4 gives 212
Confusing setup
yeah I was doing the boulder roller achievement and just rolled with it
I did just get cooked on wave 99 though
Ah that makes sense
nicee
I like geny sphere
heh
Helps me do 1m damage in dungeons
nice
damn using poison makes so much lag
true, got like only 5 of these dudes down and its kinda rough
What is our expectation to farm from the Colosseum? I collect tickets every day but never go in.
Should I use any of the medals on these?
pretty sure people farm W2 collo with DK for golden foods but that was a while ago, and I don't do it myself
Nah
i'd suggest using them on damage and meal cooking but its not gonna do much for you at this time
no vman means no cooking good
Save high ribbons for the good meals you'll unlock later.
Only real way to get certain golden foods for beanstalk
Damn I honestly forgot I didn't have the last one, this random setup i made it working pretty good
Need to have a brain storming session...
I finally got goat so I can start true lab/div jail.
Should I use hole to put everyone on arctis anyways though? I can't think of another god that will be better since the other Gods wont help me.
OR.. I can do something like mantis or snake so my farmers and pushers can double up on afk + kills.... ORRRR I put hole on Goat and let my lab slaves pickup Hare....

I think im gonna Hole hare and link to goat manually so if i switch people into lab they can get some div pts. Good talk, thx for the brain storm sesh.
Thank
I just start playing two week ago then I will skip it for now.
What gear should I use on my wizzard in world 4?
Is it your pusher?
Yes
I got it to the other thing past that I just can't remember what the name is
Elemental wizard?
The one with meteors
Make a new set of helm.leg,chest amarok and use w4 stones and have an archer do the upgrades on the armor.
By middle of w4 push you want to have 2-3 dementia pieces if not a full set
Elemental Sorcerer - ES
Is Amarok gear better for him than the a an village tab 2 wizzard gear?
lemme compare
Yes amarok much better. It's the high def and a lot of slots to upgrade that yhou are looking for.
The tab 2 wizard gear is better for skilling
Ahh okay okay
This was what I got by mid w4 and i used it until w6.
Some people would say to upgrade higher by end of w5 but I didn't find it necessary. You might have to since you're pushing on ES
Is the purple helmet and boots the purple ore?
The efaunt can be replaced with dementia, but the efaunt is a bit better overall.
Ya, purple - dementia
Okay thank you!
Hi guys, quick question. Is there a guide on whay to prioritize in lab?
I got to W6 with full dementia rex rings and the necklace from glunko
Not really, how do you mean? Basically you just get each node as soon as you can.
Early on if you want to get the NBLB node or Brightside you can skip the Barn node (dmg) to stretch a bit further, but later on thats not necessary
And the ice weapon
ES or DK?
ES
Good to know tyu
Others say to avoid certain nodes, and prioritize others first
Ik its a dumb question, but
This is the only one early on that you will ever avoid
How far in lab are you
I have ulocked more boxes, like from pet battles and others. Where tf are they
I lighted up until the 2x stamp node and the next one after that
I've been wondering the same thing for a month and still haven't found out
there is a 2nd tab that unlocks and I think it's from a sailing artifact
Damn, I really wanted the breeding box...
Right thx
Ya there's literally no other nodes to ignore. Some of them you choose when you 'need' them or not based on how many people you have in lab or not. But when you can light them all, except that one i showed you, then you light them
Ohh thanks, I havent lighted up the barn and the two other nodes you mentioned
There's like.... maybe a few that i don't have unlocked and maybe for some reason you wouldn't light them, but i doubt it
I missed the node this week that boosts cooking ๐ญ
How do you get that gem that can be connected?
The different color gems?
Yeah that one
Well, there's a bunch of them do you mean a specific one?
Not really, like in general how to get any of them
There's shop next to lab
Some of them you unlock through the lab shop where you buy chips. Some of them are from w6, and some in other places i think, maybe sailing has some
And gem shop
any video to stage 100 with poison lv 10?
Also, I have ulocked the 10ยฐ char. I have one of every class, one extra DK and one extra ES. I guess the obvious last pne shhould be SB, is it right?
Ohhh i see, the one below the chip shop

Even though idk what TD you mean , there is probably no video for that.
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goblin till 100
What a fail...
Well dang, i havent got any materials for the gems since the only active character i have is a dk and its currently unlocking portals in w6 
I just lost all my aura
-1000000
what's the command to check the recommended equipment for each world again?
I got the weakly jewel, its really great
!gear
The rest are in Lab jail with around 4 days inactive
Worst day of my life
tq
I'm not crazy good at TD But with poison you usually want like 3 kraken and a frozone in front. THen poisons all around. and lightning and parties all around that
Party starters...
Wow the gear reccomendations are really hard to farm
- 1 void
Its like really easy to get the weakly gem
yeah void are needed
Those gear reqs are overkill. Good reqs, but over kill up to w6.
Having troll for w6 is def a good idea tho
any list to get weekly gems?
Bruh im one portal ahead from u with the pink armor
Nah idk
can anyone tell me whats that eye looking necklace on w4?
yeah trolls gonna be carry them low lvl
Flurbo shop pretty sure
The one from dungeons
ya it's dungeon neck
Probably not BIS in slot anymore. Chizoar blanky or glunko neck might be better, they are all cheap to get so you could compare KPH
This was a week ago equipment, the only one that changed was the weapon, i have the deusythe right now
im in dilema shoul i open equinox dream or take my opals rings
1000% equinox if it's your first dream
opal rings won't boost your acc as much as equi
nah its 3rd
I dont have patience to upgrade salts. Ill hate to get the void armor
maybe i should get it
probably equi anyways
yeah gonna take the 5 one
It literally just takes time and you don't have to do anything but check once in a while
and then wait for 250 lv on all char
Yeah...
Yk like the
Photo idk how its called in engrish
Its literally once every 2 days go in and click once, then go away for 2 days ago.
Of the ranks u need of salt to get them permanently working
what photo
i know what u mean, what about it
I got this one right now. I have problems getting frigid souls for anvil 4 thats why its stuck
Its not mandatory right?
why chiz boots and pants
Mandatory? No... but it's the absolute right way to do it.
If you don't do it then if you ever get to 'late game' you will be so sorry.
Like putting air in your car tires isn't mandatory, but driving on flat tires is bad.
Cause damn If I wait for the red dalt to get to fucking lvl 11 to upgrade blue salt ill be rotting
Hummm
You can f it up a TINY TINY bit early on if you know that you need to fix it later. It's your choice
Thats the only one I can afford 
You won't ever be using blue salt much so it should stack up even if you don't upgrade it
!merit3
1๏ธโฃ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2๏ธโฃ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3๏ธโฃ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4๏ธโฃ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5๏ธโฃ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6๏ธโฃ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7๏ธโฃ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
โ๏ธ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.
Yeah ill not upgrade like crazy
But blue salt would be great to a little faster crafting of void armor
You only need blue for the helm
Times 10 characters
And the upgrade of salt lick
That shit is good
I mean... you can do what yhou want. but early - mid game not all your characters need good gear.
At what point does automtion arm take out bars
most of them live in the lab/div unti w6
I do lol its NOT
OPTIMAL
But ill take the sslow profress cause i like to do it that way
Daily reset i think
Huh I'll see if it works tomorrow, thanks!
Then don't f up your salt ranks. You're RUSHING one thing because you want to go TOO slow on something else.
Don't F up your progress in one way for a reason that won't help you at all
I hate to see just my DK on better gear.
Yeah that makes sense lol
Can u spawn the picture i was talking about? Lol
You're supposed to do salt ranks a certain way? I've just been waiting till full
Too late. Everyone on the pink armor already
yes see that pic
Thx
pink armor is amazing armor before w6, no reason for any of them to have void until yhou ahve been in w6 a little while
So like, before I upgrade blue salt to level 2 I should have the other ones in their respective levels, right?
This is the other pic, that explains WHY you do it that way
yes. left to right
Yeah I understand that lol
I just asked like, yk
Its mostly for the other person
When u know u will make a dumb move and need someone to stop you
Oh ok
?
currently extra SB is what most people with 'meta' setups have done.
But since we know new master class is 1-2 months away it's a good time to wait and see what it is
Yeah mine are messes up it'll take time to fix, thank you!
finally
Yeah Ive been thinking about it. Maybe stay at begginer for the last class untill the update comes out?
Not too messed up, it will take time to fix but it also takes time to do it the right way too ๐คทโโ๏ธ ๐
Ya if you can do that i would
And see if having 2 of the new master class is worth it or not
Either way thanks for the info!
Yeah, begginers have the tallent to get more xp in any skill any ways lol
That's even more messed up than mine
Annother lab slave... Sigh
Lvl it to like lvl 60-90... then have it mine until master class.
If you make it an archer ther eis a star sign you can get, if you make it a mage there is a star sign for that too
Yeah it'll take time to fix, but now that I know
Hey guys should i card farming my other 3 charts at the back of the line?
It'll take days or weeks
Not 100% sure i understand the questoin but probably the answer is no
I'm already struggling bringing my redox salt up
Probably weeks refinery feels so slow lol
I honestly hate to just arrest characters on lab and divinity. Ik its absolutly necessary, and only 2 arent fot me rn. But damn I like to manage everything yk? Checking just one char and leting others sleep is meh
I mean skill card farming
I messed my salts up when i started playing a year ago and I think MAYBE they are finally fixed right now... but i may still ahve 1 more orange level to fix.
I already goot the archer one... Pretty easy ngl
It's actually not absolutely necessary even though a lot of people act like it is. I didn't do it on my first play through and I did fine.
With goat though Lab+Div Jail is just pretty efficient
Five one hour candys are enougjt to take a level 1 character to lvl 100
ya archer is pretty easy. Mage one is easy later on when you have a high lvl mman too
So you want to know if you should use your last 3 characters to farm skill cards?
Yeah, i think ill stuck it to divinity, cz lab u can get some levels up passivly with bubo
Ye my 3 charts are DK,SB, and ES
that's the main way I did it. For a long time i only had like 4-5 chars in lab, never did div or lab jail.
This time I'm gonna do div+lab jail though because managing two accounts is tiring so I don't want to payh attention to the second one lol
When I unlock pocket divinity, (tomorrow), Ill level every kne to like 15/20 in lab and put just bubo and beast master there
You don't need to use them to skill card farm. They should probably be in the lab. what world are you in
Yeah lol I have and old account VERY messed up and I dont fell like doing it lol
After 1 year of afk inab
And EIGHT CHARACTERS
At lab, everyone is level 80
probably easy to fix, and will be fun to get last 2 characters after new master class
W6 early
In mama trolls
Use mman to farm skill cards
Yes lol
Rip imagine spending one year in lab and only lev 80
Why?
When it comes out ill get back to thst account
Higher chance for it and he needs to be skilling anyways.
Your other chars shouldn't skill often. only take prints asnd skill once in a while to catchj up to 1 level behind mman
Bruh they were lvl 10 lol
Skill issue literally
YEAH LOL
Im working on my Vman in 80 lvl skill in W1 to W2 MINIMUM
Then when you lvl up all your other characters to 79 then you will get a lot of skill cards. but no reason to specifically pull them out to do that until you are ready to catch up lvls
Bruh when I unlock pocket divinity ill get the mantis god for maestro and will be able to get the lab node that doubles the kills for death note. I think ill do the Vman quest after
I have 4 gold dice obols now, do I try to push it further or?
.... you are w6 and didn't use that lab node to get there?
I was sitting at only like 30k gmush kills, it was going to take forever
My DK:81 Level mining
Im not w6
nah ,keep them that way for now. Later on you can push it further but rn having the 4 obols is better than the next upgade
I still have 4 silver
where are you at
I litteraly pushed to the hole, there is a mechanic that u can tp there with any character after u unlock it with anyone
depends on if you have other good options for your square slots or not
Then I use 3 1h candys on everyone to level them to 140
ya thermisters are nice xp for low lvls haha
If I upgrade the 2 silvers successfully to gold, is there any chance of losing a gold obol?
And just farming some skills that are left behind. I got to w3 in one week, to w5 in 2/half
Im kinda rushed. Not that much, but im still a noob so im pretty satisfied lol
Thats average my times are almost the same as your
Idk if it's different per person:
check this :
Oh, Nice
Imagine skipping portal 1 and 2 straight to the hole
Oranges with dk and the skulls with maestro. Everyone else at div/lab
Yeah
turn arctis on in hole
Yeah imagine... (cries in 7 chars doing that)
Except for the fact that I just rushed straight to W6 after unlocking nobisect
Ill do that tomorrow, i didnt undestand pocket div untill I spent some points on that tab already lol
If your in W6 in Future...
Get your bubo to the end of the map of W5 aka here
Nah i think ill chill at w5 cuz im a bit perfectionist, will unlock all portals from w1-4 with every character
Probably will take 3 days or sum
I'll give a tip: YOu can skip doing this on maestro
on w4
since once you unlock vman and do a speedrun, he'll have all portals
what should I have my wizard print
You do have to reach the boss room on w3 however
Logs
Thanks i absolutly forgor
for reference:
I've been in w6 like a month now. If i unlocked W3 portals a month ago for ALL chars it would have taken like you said '3 days or sum'
rn i'n unlocking 1 portal every 5 min... which means if i pay attention it will take like 2 hrs to unlock all of w3 for each char.
In the speedrun?
Maybe in W2 to W3 logs if you have bubo
I just wanted the lab nodes and had a lot of candy to spare you should probably take your time
No, during questline
ya but that just means go inside and kill big dawgchiz
Yeah
Oh my portal pusher was maestroo lol
He has every one almost
What....
Yeah...
Brahh
What kinda freak use maestro as pusher
I mean, not too bad, i changed at w4
w1-3 is required to be done for the maestro and vman
Bruh I did NOT use him at all at my last account
what weapon did the maestro have
I mean he wants to level up hes maestro?
Or hes other characters doing skill
Its not the best but i like to focus on the secret class.
some people do it lol. Because his high accuracy people push with him not realizing its actually not great
My maestro pushed w4 for me my first playthrough
He's says he was using him as pusher to get to the next world
Knuckles
Them blue gloves
Imagine not having enough accuracy
oh, the bad ones
Couldn't be me
๐
you can just stack cards for accuracy
Yeah lol Im still not at the yellow ones
My trapping is Shit
y u need trapping for gloves
After I got vman all my accuracy troubles were fixed
damn do i do troll on mage or warrior first?
if you just push trapping you get it better fast
who should I make print the uh mushrooms for refinery
whichever makes you happier
you can rush trapping easily
Es/wizard
Its ANNOYING AF TO CHANGE THE TRAPS FROM CHAR TO CHAR
what about shamakaan
but dk kinda good also to make troll
uhhh
Ffs
use the drone lmao
No shaman is for wood
Yeah but
Your refinery?
Its BM aka beast master or hunter
If I have a lvl 4 trap on bm, and lvl 1 on maestro
My pusher DK and one of my archers gets my spores.
It will be my vman in a week or so
When he sets up traps for maestro he will onlu have onte trap avaliable
Is there a pet in foraging who can lower the number what i have to unlock a spice? (I need 200k power and my pets around 30k so 120-130k/200k i can only do)
Also what is โcappingโ my highest pet power? How can i increase
Eben tho hell get to ise the tier 4 trap
what if I need double wood fr
for w6 all pusher
doesn't matter, you just place 20 min silkskin traps on highest critter you can, push the quest to higher critter tiers since the higher the tier the more xp
Wizard
you can hit level 35 trapping in 1 day
Then use the wizard/maestro
That's cap
Bro MAESTRO?
well, one day if you click every 20 minutes all day, but yes
Maestro is better for monster materials
if you ahve nature traps and like bunnies or higher than it's possible for sure
You could do it in like 16 hrs if mman places your traps
Well it's supposed to be used to skill a lot so might as well but probably should have answered archers
For vials or stamp
And the refinery
If I dont do what I said, to like change the lvl 4 trap for the char u'll place it om the drone
Well only be able to place one trap, even tho itll be the highest trap posssible
Why mman?
Everything is possible if you have enough stuff
you can place as many traps as your equipped trap tool tho
mman has the highest skilling exp multiplier
ITS FOR FRICKIN VIALS OR STAMP
LEVELING IS JUST THE ONLY REASON TO GIVE EFFICIENT ON ALL CHARTS
God...
click multiple times until it's full
After a little while his xp outscales BM. So you use his -eff +XP skill and place traps on nature traps and the xp is insane
Eyy calm down I said that I should have answer archer
Yes, but if my trap tool is on my BM and I use the drone on him to place a trap for Maestro, maestro will not have the trap tool benefits.
I literraly tested it
Oh I understsnd it now
If the best trap tool is on bm
Switch it or get the others their own tools.
It's not that hard to make everyone new traps until you get to the steel or higher traps
If you place traps using the drone on the bm, you can place the highest tier the bm has on any character
Thats what i said ๐ญ
Lots of people were typing and i didn't understand your message ๐
YEAH BUT THEY WILL NOT HAVE THE QUANTITY OF TRAPS BM HAS
Lol
When I get a maestro do I have to make him a higher level on EVERY skill than EVERY other character for their respective skill?
Yeah lol its allright
Ye not every there are some exceptions
w1-w3 skills except exceptoipns like shadow said
The exceptions are Alchemy, Construction and Anvil
Suck my 40 inch glory stick bruh
and all w4+ skills
Remove the 4
what should i spend my gems on i got the 3d printer and golden anvil ones already
Im at owls now, what critter should I wait untill i grind everyones leves?
does he have talents to make him level fast atleast? ๐ญ I left one of my mfs on wood cutting for a month
He has talents for skill exp but none for efficiency...
Get crystal printer i think...
The gives 2 print at the same time
He only needs to be higher lvl right not efficiency? Right
He benefits from stamps and alchemy bubble efficiency
yeah i mean i got that
I always just ahve mman/vman place 1 nature trap on everyone, the BM normal traps on the rest.
That way they always get some good xp passively.
I've never personally had to 'grind' their trapping lvls
The food from the valentines event REALLY helps early game
He just needs to be higher level, yes
Ye higher level
Brotha you smart.
Maybe save your gems?
ya he will probably never pass their efficiency, and if he does, something is very wrong
should I get him for my next character? (7th)
Ive been outfucking smarted.
Should I actually just reset all traps and do that?
my efficiency is low ๐
So I don't have to heavily be inefficient with traps for compromise
It also helps later on too it's boost food so it's gonna boost you on matter where you are in the game
You don't need to reset all traps if you want to do it, just take your mman and reset 1 trap on each.
If you haven't reset traps in a while then it wouldn't hurt to do a refresh
Yeah and most are speed, not efficiency
Its great.
It's because everyone is on 5 day traps, but only x100, when ar says the better one is x200
yeah, I did that as a compromise to try to gain exp, since x200 gives 0 exp on wooden traps
But the Mman traps are nature traps set for what time?
I've never done anything other than 20 min or 20 hr traps for critters and 8hr / 20 hr trap for xp.
I think I should reset them to maybe 20 hr ones
so I don't critter lock myself on refinery or crafting
I always do 8 hrs. depends how often you check in
I was thinking like, one 5day trap for quantity of critters and the rest 20h for shiny
Idk why you guys want long traps but the longer traps are overall LESS critters.
i always do all 1 nature and other for material at least 1h
Cuz shinys are a pain in the ass for recipies and qyests
Did u get rift 6?
The MOST critters is 20-min traps
Fuck no, i have to try rift again tho
gotta unlock every 20 min are harsh
should I put traps on the rest of my characters I'm lazy
Idk what progress you are at but that's not helping anyone who is trying to progress in the game...
MAESTROO WAS MY PUSHER OK? HE WAS LVL 200 AND EVERYONE AT 100 BY THE TIME I GOT TO RIFT
If you want to not lock yourself out later
ILL TRY IT AGAIN WITH 280 DKK NOW
high progress yeah
thats why i didnt need the 20 one
If you have a little damage ti take the rift monster then get to rift 6 to get the box vacuum i think
what you just said is like literally end game shit, don't say that to these people not even in w6 lol
Whats that
rift 6 collects your traps once a day
nah im just lazy to collect 20 min
but natures give you zero critters so how do you.. get critters..
The box vacuum deposit your ALL trap box on your all charcter in 24 hours or ones a day
yeah, I'll redo my traps to 20 hours at least?
Btw, i kicked 3 char at bravery statue. What 80 hours there give u?
DAMN i want that...
2 more swords
1 20h on all and vman all nature
Ye
Wow thats greatt
What world u?
Excited for tomorrow playtrhoug (wtf that word is hard). Gatthered a lot of wisdom today
Fuck I need to practice engrish more lol
Mid of w5 pushing
Got 3 gods in 2 days, got really lucky
Something like this?
No way did you pass through the rift?!
No lol
.
Ya if you wanna do 20s then do that
Nice I haven't got that
It's to make it less annoying for active es
Do rift
Do rift...to rift 6 to unlock your box vacumm
I guess Ill use Dk on rift cuz of the revive all monsters talent rkght?
Multikill works there?
my BM is a secondary lab slave.
WHen i do 20 min traps i switch to him in lab and collect on eagle eye then go back to my active.
I actually rarely use the trapper drone
Depends the task given
When the task given is get rift drop then that will be the ES time
Ooh
Hummmm
?
Could someone help me pls?
Do rift when im in W5 i got touched with the box vacumm
so I accidently used telekinetic storage wirh my armor on the ground and now that shit gone
Lol
and it isn't in storage ๐ญ
ye u deleted it..
FUCK
RIP ur armor
???
Nah ull get that in no time
Nah ull get that in no time
'mb i meant it was godshard armor'
Lol
Dont forget to upgrade your skull worship
For everyone?
shi ion need that anyways
Sorry Quick Question i had bought like 15 of the Boss card Packs from the Shop and didnt get anything what could i do?
What tiime is it rn for u guys?
Yup
They probably dropped on the ground and you didn't pick them up. There's a customer support channel or something somewhere
Are there cards for shiny critters
Why remind me of that at thus random moment?
Yes, they are critter cards tho
Thhere is a stamp, a vial and a alchemy bubble too
Add me we will chat
Does this setup work?
Now im afraid
Nah i was so shockd that i looked on the ground in my chest and evrywhere but there wasent there only my gems melted down
skill afk gain rate is like wood and shit right
this is my setup on main
Ooh, I see you only use nature traps on vman
idk what channel it is but there's a customer support channel. no one in this channel can help you with that
Bro thers a turtle critter lo
What time of the day/night is it rn for u guys?
11, friday
Damn bro
@dusty bronze
1pm sat
2am saturday
Thats fking cute
turtle squad
So in W5 you should have 10Mil damage right?
There's no 'requirement'. But when you get to w5 boss ya you will want a general amount of dmg
just got to world 3 any tips?
Start the npc's task at the top of the map, you are now timelocked for 15 min
wdym time locked?
You can't progress besides just waiting. so start the quest to start your time lock
talk to the carrot
oh alr
its at the top of world 3 map?
oh you're in w3..... srry srry i m thinking w4
but ya do the ice cream's quest, but you aren't time locked, but do his first like 2 quests
oh thats why its confusing me
alr il do that rn
is there a chart for refinery?
Is there any other way to get chizoar key without doing colo,mini boss? I don't have any colo ticket
man reaching the elite class for ES is SOOOO satisfying
maybe w3 crystal giant? but maybe not even that
I already kill my daily crystal on crystal island they didn't drop a single key...
Then probably just the things you said
the eyeball quest guy may give a couple more if you do this quest
seems a bit of a dumb question, but my next 2 rifts are 5m afk kills, if i have all 10 characters afk and finish it with 4, the other 6 unclaimed, can i go through the portal and have their afk time count for the new rift 5m kills?
I guess it time to spend hour just to get the key.... Doing the same quest all over again
yes
ok neat, cause im definitely gonna have overkill leaving them overnight
? you can play another game if you don't like this game?
this is the push to construct mastery for me
I never say I don't like this game it just... Nvm
how can I increase kills pee hour on my hunter
the next quest might not be 5m kills depending what rift you are on. and don't quote me on it but i do think i did that once before, what you are trying to do
i checked as i wanted to see if i could feasibly reach the next milestone
i think its the only b2b 5m kills portion before the like 10 in a row segment at the end
should work then
is it from completing 41, or just reaching 41 that you unlock the milestone?
i think GETTING to that rift lvl unlocks it
so passing 40 and getting to 41, unlocks 41
ive unlocked 2 rift milestones today but didnt pay attention haha
ok hope so, as 41 might be tough, kill all before they respawn on 3 characters with 1.3t hp, when i struggled to do the mega healing monster challenge that was just 274b base hp
yeah ive unlocked a bunch of em, and vial mastery was done today, but i never actually paid attention to if its on reach or complete with the 1/6
wiki makes it pretty clear i think? havent looked in a while
do the cog stats need updated on the wiki? I have a broken cog with 129% xp, and wiki says highest is about 65%.
im on the wiki and it says unlock level on the table, just not sure if its unlocked on reaching that level or completing it, im hoping personally it means unlocked on reaching
