midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[worn tulip]

guess i have to do it

man

easter even will be so far in the future

why did i get galactic leaves from killing demon genies???

[shadow lark]

Crystal mob

[worn tulip]

makes sense

[pine fiber]

@desert sapphire make sure you start with bubo, beast master and bb, you can put them back straight into lab

[desert sapphire]

tysm!

[worn tulip]

btw i saw someone say that if you have accuracy issues in w5/6 (i dont rember) then ur account is cooked, is this true?

[pine fiber]

I wonder if Lava shuffles the limited shop with the next update or too soon?

[pastel shuttle]

Heya, is my 8th character a good time to make a jman? My 7th was a 2nd DK.

[pine fiber]

anywhere between 7-10 is a good time

[worn tulip]

why do yall even need a second dk rn

[uneven obsidian]

construction

[night sable]

you have construction unlocked

[worn tulip]

ok yeah fair

is mage jsut gonna be the slave skill class or what

[night sable]

i'm personally stalling my 8th a little bit cause i need level 100

but if i didnt itd be a dk

[quasi copper]

should i get a barb or a bowman as my 7th character since i kinda need a boost in both catching and fishing

[night sable]

neither

[worn tulip]

no

[pine fiber]

what are your first 6?

[worn tulip]

make jman or somehting useful

[night sable]

acc isnt bowman into siege breaker?

you can theoretically get a bowman but usually it's your 10th

[quasi copper]

yea

[worn tulip]

man sometimes i forget that trapping exists

[quasi copper]

1 barb 1 Mage 1 bowman 1 squire 1 shaman 1 hunter

[worn tulip]

this game is slowly becoming runescape

[night sable]

get another squire or a jman

[pine fiber]

DK or maestro

[night sable]

and if you get jman shove him on fishing

[quasi copper]

i wanted to get one on as my 8th or something

[pine fiber]

up to you

[night sable]

if you want fishing and catching mman does do both

[pine fiber]

better to get started on the maestro grind asap tho

[quasi copper]

hmmm then its decided ill get a Jman

[worn tulip]

!guide

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[worn tulip]

this is relevant

[quasi copper]

yall said 2nd bowman as my 10th right?

aka siege breaker

[worn tulip]

no

we never talked about 10th

[worn tulip]

okay fine

[pine fiber]

btw up to you, I did get SB as 10th

[worn tulip]

just flip a coin for dk or jman

[quasi copper]

yea frankly now that i think about it jman is probably better

[worn tulip]

your choice

[quasi copper]

i am still like 100 levels away from getting my 7th anyway

[worn tulip]

also for context, whats your lets say fruitfly sample rn?

[quasi copper]

80 havent resampled in a while tho

[worn tulip]

bro

thats a great sample

why are you complaining i have 61

[quasi copper]

wait thats good???

da hell

[worn tulip]

yes, 80 probably isnt bad

[quasi copper]

darn ok

[worn tulip]

catching has shit sample rates anyways by the looks of it

[quasi copper]

i noticed my oak print is like more than 2k

which is why i am shocked by how low catching is

[worn tulip]

yeah wood has high samples

[uneven obsidian]

well yeah with oak you have the mage buff

[worn tulip]

2k isnt a lot but it is decent

[pastel shuttle]

Oh neat, thanks!

Time to figure out jman as my 8th in that case.

Made some big mistakes tho earlier in terms of skilling 😭

[worn tulip]

😭 😭 😭 my dk is still 10k kills away from the portal req :((((((((

[autumn gorge]

does construction efficiency affect construction speed

[worn tulip]

construction has efficiency???

[autumn gorge]

i don't know

[worn tulip]

it doesnt

dont gaslight me like that bro

[pastel shuttle]

Can this talent double hit talent on DK trigger Imbued Shockwaves?

[autumn gorge]

sorry, i meant do construction levels give build speed

[worn tulip]

probably

[autumn gorge]

ok

[uneven obsidian]

i dont think so

[pine fiber]

your basic attack hitting twice is not affected by the basic attack spawning a shockwave

[worn tulip]

my answer applies to both of those imo

[pastel shuttle]

Aww thought so cause it wasn't really prioritized in the talent cheat sheet but thought I'd ask just in case 😭

[worn tulip]

i get the shockwave on most attacks which shouldnt happen with the chance it has

man

i jsut feel like candying through w4

[ocean kayak]

What do people mean when they say save 20 library books for X skill? Is there a way to use more than 1 at a time for better rolls or something?

[pine fiber]

yes, with automation arm

it uses up 20 books but you get the highest possible lvl(that's currently available to you)

[ocean kayak]

Oh i see, i haven't finished my automation arm yet. Thanks

[hexed shoal]

Auto arm inc book max lvl?

[pine fiber]

it does not, no

[hexed shoal]

Then i misunderstood

[pine fiber]

salt lick does, achievement does, artifacts + summoning

[quasi jungle]

I remember at some point flaggy rate affected con xp bonus (I might be tripping though) is that still the case?

[pine fiber]

thats the first time I hear about it

[quasi jungle]

I might have totally misinterpretted something long ago and then it stuck for some reason. I'll deep dive

[worn tulip]

no wonder the guides are outdated, theyre 1.5 years old

[quasi jungle]

Actually... now that I think about it... Someone might have been talking about how flaggy rate would allow more cogs, which subsequently means more cogs on the board to gives %xp....

That's probably where I confused myself ha

[ocean kayak]

Is there a way to see death note anywhere?

[pine fiber]

w3

you need to build it first tho

[quasi jungle]

Basically no, there isn't a quick ref for it

[ocean kayak]

I have to walk to it though? or can i view it from remote?

I see

[pine fiber]

you can see it in IT

[quasi jungle]

The only minor version is you can see what tier the mob is at through cards

[pine fiber]

if you know the difference between the skulls

[worn tulip]

time to stop being lazy and finally do more worship

[quasi jungle]

Also are all %xp on cogs additive? Like directional additive with just base stat

I'm assuming yes

[worn tulip]

yes

[pine fiber]

they are, yes

[ocean kayak]

Should i focus build rate, exp, or flaggy first for cogs?

[pine fiber]

xp

your dks will give the most of your build rate, so it's better to level them as fast as you can

[quasi jungle]

Remind me what cog stats are based on again? Levels of the chars in the slots?

[iron jay]

I believe highiest construction lvl

[ocean kayak]

I want my DKs on the board then for sure right? Not making cogs?

[quasi jungle]

So it doesn't matter who is in the slots?

[pine fiber]

it can be anyone but dks

should be*

[quasi jungle]

Okay cool. Just wanted to make sure

IT is saying that my max xp stat for cogs is 70% but I've got some that are up to 113%, am I missing something?

[worn tulip]

time to make choppin gear!1!1!1

[pine fiber]

can you show picture of this

[pine fiber]

is that your current board on the right?

[quasi jungle]

Yes

[pine fiber]

where is this 113% you talked about

[quasi jungle]

Top right

There is a 122% as well in that row

[iron jay]

seems like IT is lier

[plucky frost]

Does this increase lab XP on wizard?

er not wizard, Bubo

[latent bramble]

IT might be out of date with cog values
I never really used it

[worn tulip]

cheator1!1!1!1!1

[quasi jungle]

This is why I'm asking lol

I'm confused

[worn tulip]

time to grind owl to like a bajillion mf ig

[quasi jungle]

I haven't ever looked at it until now. I've pretty much ignored construction cogs for a long time

[hasty yoke]

uhh, should I have it all in my inventory?

[spiral relic]

is there a website or anything for the "ideal" setup for each character depending on the world you get into?

[quasi jungle]

Yes

[hasty yoke]

that's insane

[quasi jungle]

It's probably small compared to many end gamers lol

[worn tulip]

mmmm dementia balls

[hasty yoke]

don't compare me to an end game

I get jealous

[quasi jungle]

lol same

[worn tulip]

DREALDO GEMS

i love gambling

another dementia gems

lava has blessed me in gambling ig

[fathom dome]

what is a greenstack

[worn tulip]

green number in chest

[pine fiber]

should be doable with ruck sack + high enough capacity pouch

[quasi jungle]

10m of an item. It turns the number green

[hasty yoke]

i am about to craft the collosal smth pouch

[worn tulip]

i want crystal custard so bad

[hasty yoke]

tab 5 pouch

[civic nexus]

lab for the bubble node. do i need all characters in there for the full day or just before the reset and i can pull them out if need be?

[worn tulip]

wtf does w1 boss key ez access mean

[pine fiber]

have them there before daily reset

[civic nexus]

i think you can claim keys from codex

[quasi jungle]

You can claim from quick access

[worn tulip]

wow thats awesomesauce

i am elated

ecstatic even

[quasi jungle]

It's this

[civic nexus]

cool. is daily reset synced with the shop refresh

[worn tulip]

does nice fur suit give you free tele to wode boards or what

[quasi jungle]

Yes

[worn tulip]

time to get a new owl bonus after like 6 months

[molten atlas]

i cant open reddit :_(

[zenith hare]

murder

[rough sundial]

Why doesnt it let me choose another trap?

I have the Green trap from anvil 3 and it only lets me place the first

[worn tulip]

has anyone pushed owl to 30 bonus?

[exotic swallow]

30 of what bonus

[molten atlas]

outside bonus

[worn tulip]

lvl 30 bonuses of orion

[exotic swallow]

does this answer ur question

[molten atlas]

like damage up by idk 2% or something

[quaint relic]

How am I supposed to beat the snowball worship

I can only get to 16

[worn tulip]

what about 36?

[exotic swallow]

eh

[quaint relic]

And not enough souls for the refinery

[exotic swallow]

doubt, it's highly timegated

[quaint relic]

Do you have it equipped

[tepid latch]

is there a way to keep vman at higher level than es in worship levels? es charges so much faster🤔

[pine fiber]

dont claim high xp souls from msa, solved

[zenith hare]

don't place ur dps towers too close together

[tepid latch]

oh i didnt realize ty.

[zenith hare]

they get stunned together if they're too close, which effectively halves your defence for stun waves

[quaint relic]

Ah

So spread them all out?

And does anyone have like a setup that works?

[pine fiber]

check !guide td section

#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message

[rough sundial]

Did it with the wrong character.. ty 😄

[uncut hull]

did colo tickets gat taken off the drop table for cc? I havent seen one in over 100 re-rolls now :/

[fathom timber]

I have one of every class + maestro, what do I get as 8th character and folowing?

[pine fiber]

dk es sb

[fathom timber]

is dk the warrior that does construction?

[pine fiber]

yes, elite class after squire

[iron sage]

guys anybody have good breeding guide ? i am hard stuck at nebulon mantle

[quasi jungle]

After running the numbers, it looks like IT is using that same formula

[latent bramble]

well, fuck if i know then. can ping pancake for some more details on it

[quasi jungle]

I'm not sure what the difference is between (one affix) and (total) though

[tender ocean]

why exposing me

[ancient arch]

can i sample trapping? it keeps picking up the slime sludges

[full urchin]

What's easier to do, W4 or the appendix of W3?

[fallen crescent]

updated td for w2, nuts w4 and w5, could be a lot better but its alright

[worn tulip]

why the fuck did owl bonus lvl 24 not boost my dr >:(

[exotic swallow]

lmao what is that pfp

[pine fiber]

bunny 2B

[exotic swallow]

thats crazy hourzero

[pine fiber]

do the math again

1st stat is class xp, 2nd is base dmg

cycle up till 24

[tender ocean]

do i have to explain something to someone who has explosive diarrhea as their name if its meant in a bad way?

[white path]

long time no see

[exotic swallow]

I took the name from the binding of isaac pill effect.

[tender ocean]

there are multiple reaons i dont go to channels like here anymore

[exotic swallow]

and its been here nearly as long as my discord account creation.

so theres nothing wrong with my nickname.

[stable parcel]

Will someone break down the math on Multikill to me?

I have 168% multi:

each kill counts as like.... 5.2 kills (every 5 or 6th kill it counts as 6 so i'm averaging).

Why does 168% calculate into 5.2 kills?

[pine fiber]

do you have killer's brightside or nobisect on

[stable parcel]

brightside is on

[stable parcel]

~~oooh and the 33% portal prayer~~ NVM i took this off but im gonna go put it on haha

[pine fiber]

well, there you go

is that on a barb btw

[stable parcel]

So... bright side counts as 2x... i have multi of 168%.

Should my portal kills count as 336%?

It's on Wizard, No ES talent for Kill per kill

[pine fiber]

and you checked it by killing 1 mob?

but I cant figure it out, to be honest

[stable parcel]

yea i killed 1 mob a bunch of times and was counting the portal ticks

i'll ask in w6 maybe someone will know. Maybe i have another boost on like brightside that isn't shown in the multikill calc

[pine fiber]

do you have doot?

[stable parcel]

nope

[pine fiber]

huh, no idea then

[stable parcel]

🤷‍♂️

[low arrow]

Its magic,i also got no idea how that works tbh

[willow sierra]

So I just got into W4....... how do I do lab and stuff?

[white lintel]

@stable parcel is that over or under what you calculated it should be

[low arrow]

Do the carrot quest he explain all

Also portal locked behind the quest

[willow sierra]

Nice TY. I bred some pets already before starting his quest, now I have to wait for the egg cooldowns :/

[low arrow]

The quest gives egg idk if the first one or the ome near

[stable parcel]

Which message you referring to?

The only numbers I can see to calculate are bright side + multikill which is like 360%, which is about 160% LESS than what i'm seeing.

[low arrow]

I think the death note upg makes the multi kill high or im just making no sense

[stable parcel]

Nahhh that may be right? Maybe it doesn't show in the mk tiers

[hexed shoal]

Where is occido)=

[stable parcel]

Eh, the math for death note doesn't make it make sense though

[hexed shoal]

Also sup cookie

[stable parcel]

Wait it might. My deathnote is 25% per tier. im at 4 tiers... that gives me 319% which x2 is what im seeing.

Maybe deathnote ic calculated but doesnt show

Hi kebab

[low arrow]

You can also watch mane talk video about multi kill

[stable parcel]

whomanetalk

[hexed shoal]

Whats all this death note ramble?

[rancid harness]

Does anyone else just crash when completing giant troll on a vman?

I've done nightmare troll twice and when I get the 2nd triple punch in the game freezes up and I lose all my keys and don't even get credit

[white lintel]

The here’s other kpk bonuses like in alchemy and random other places

[rapid osprey]

Could some explain cooking to me? Why is it going to take 2 days to make a new recipe? I only have 4 unlocked

[sleek pollen]

Newer recipe takes longer

[white lintel]

Your Mk should display correctly, but kpk doesn’t have a display for it, so you likely just have kpk you don’t know about

[ancient arch]

did i fuck up? i used the ladles the guy gave me and it finished the spice recipe but now i have to wait an hour for the chicken

[sleek pollen]

It also means you gotta pump your cooking speed, new meal speed

[sleek pollen]

Ah hour?

[unborn swan]

can you sample equinox resources?

[hexed shoal]

Yuh

[low arrow]

The "better" spices the longer it takes

[ancient arch]

it says my base speed is 10/hr

[stable parcel]

ya my bbubblees on those are pretty minmal. ffs i had a stroke on that word

[sleek pollen]

Okay so I reckon the quest say only to FINISH the recipe and afk for 15min in the kitchen

[low arrow]

You can upgrade kitchens usin spices

They give better chance,cook spd

[white lintel]

I think salt lick has one too, some talents have it like the skull one that scales with main stat, BB talents, and some others. You can see the list on idleon insight

[stable parcel]

FFS im dumb.

I also have Wizard Mana is Life ability active which is ... like 70% mk total that i just wasnt adding

[white lintel]

It should display when actuve

[sleek pollen]

The mk is passive I reckon

[stable parcel]

ya its passive and is showing. I just was ignoring it in the calculation lol

[ancient arch]

does our priority here change once we have w4 and can use all of these things?

[stable parcel]

.. what has your priority beeen? lol

I only ever buy balls, candy and refinery cycles when i have odd #.

Some people just spam refinery cycles

[low arrow]

I always pick some pearls if i need or recycle

[ancient arch]

this is like the third skull shop i've had if that, so i haven't had a priority

it's only taken me a couple of weeks to get to here

[hexed shoal]

Refinery

[low arrow]

You are new on w3 ?

[ancient arch]

im new to w4

[hexed shoal]

Refinery best shit ever for dk

[low arrow]

If you got low refine mats dont pick that

[stable parcel]

o.o 1 hr candy should be as good or better than pearl most of the time.
not always tho

[low arrow]

I got 1 only

[stable parcel]

Ya personally i wouldn't touch refinery speed before like w5.... refinery mats are limited

[hexed shoal]

Why cant i use candy in w6) =

[low arrow]

I prefer to get 4 ref or less cuz the mats most candys to push to w5

[ancient arch]

i'm doing okay (for now) ish on refinery materials, i am 3d printing themn

[cold wraith]

so that you cant complete the entire world in 30 minutes

[hexed shoal]

) =

I barely have any time candy lmao

[cold wraith]

imagine lava does all the work to put out w7 and theres people that complete it in 30 minutes asking for another world

[hexed shoal]

Might as well start hogging time candies

[cold wraith]

yea thats what ive been doing

[hexed shoal]

Not gonna push untill w7 is out so i can use candy🗿

[mossy anvil]

just reached w4, is it worth to lock some dudes in lab?

[cold wraith]

i mean eventually youre going to want to push for diff mechanics

[hexed shoal]

Yeh

[cold wraith]

all but your pusher and maybe your maestro

[hexed shoal]

Man all the mechanics i git suck

Only 4 land plots

[mossy anvil]

alright, so lab is top priority rn?

[hexed shoal]

And 4 plant types

[cold wraith]

well you can get legumyte in mama trolls, theres a guy that gives stamps for summoning, if you push high you can get to samurais for crystal farming etc

[hexed shoal]

Yes

[cold wraith]

yea just get all your characters elite one by one

or you can candy if you have enoguh kph

[hexed shoal]

Razor language this pls

[cold wraith]

there are things you can unlock by pushing w6

[pine fiber]

waffle, did you manage to get to divine scarf?

[cold wraith]

so i would advise against not pushing w6 entirely

[cold wraith]

yea it was hella easy

[hexed shoal]

Im only at w6 3rd map

[pine fiber]

also got yumi peachring?

[cold wraith]

oh shoot i forgot bt that i think i have bamboo spice so ill be able to get itnow

[cold wraith]

whats your cooking/fire speed for first kitchen

[pine fiber]

last 4 spices and thats it

uhh idk, I used 700 ladles like 3 times to get it tho it was a long time ago

[cold wraith]

man i love bubo

[hexed shoal]

I only have 1m cook spd

[hexed shoal]

My fav class

[cold wraith]

shame

[pine fiber]

[cold wraith]

oh

[pine fiber]

you are way ahead of me probably

[cold wraith]

not that far

[white path]

do u guys need spices?

[cold wraith]

shh

[last beacon]

Hey I just got to w3 I have no clue what's happening

[pine fiber]

do hoggindaz' quests

[last beacon]

Idk how to turn on the refinery

[cold wraith]

maybe i should do a couple chows

[worn tulip]

its always on

[last beacon]

I'm in some build thing rn

[low arrow]

I need to get my Bb to build cook ngl

[hexed shoal]

Got any blu spices? I need for diamond chef

[low arrow]

I need to do the chows 💀

[cold wraith]

is this enough to start going for the equinox dream

[pine fiber]

zerg rushogen?

[cold wraith]

i dont have it 💀

[pine fiber]

same

[pine fiber]

cant you get that breakpoint with ladle stamp or multitool?

[hexed shoal]

Gimme gimme

[white path]

https://tenor.com/view/spicy-seasoning-special-touch-signature-gif-15902626

[last beacon]

How does this build thing work?

[cold wraith]

i can def get it with chows/schows and upgrading the talent

[worn tulip]

(your man after midnight)

[hexed shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/dropped-it-i-cant-catch-drops-ball-misses-it-whoops-gif-23993296

[indigo stratus]

im way more advanced than i should be bc of vault, so im just getting every char an amarok armor with the class helmet and a decent weapon and correspondent tool

this is going to take like a week or so right?

[pine fiber]

w3 or 4

[cold wraith]

i just went naked

[indigo stratus]

w3

[indigo stratus]

yeah me too but i would like to have al my chars equipped and not swapping around things or having like copper and iron tools 😭

[low arrow]

Bro is gonna make them snap

[cold wraith]

never had to swap cus i never used my other characters 😈

[hexed shoal]

Best gear in the game

[cold wraith]

i was exclusively es/dk till w6

[indigo stratus]

tho im neglecting alchemy a little bit rn 😭 i need the materials

[hexed shoal]

Now db

[pine fiber]

boning

[indigo stratus]

WHAT

[low arrow]

Dk carry got a new meaning

[cold wraith]

nah

[hexed shoal]

Bubo?

[indigo stratus]

is squire/ divine knight that good?

[hexed shoal]

Sb?

[cold wraith]

i didnt have 200 tenteye till w6

[worn tulip]

man i wonder when the new vault stuff will come

[cold wraith]

abandoned in gmush 🙂

[hexed shoal]

Please dont tell me you using bm😔

[hexed shoal]

So bubo

[cold wraith]

@pine fiber

[cold wraith]

i only started using bubo after i got 200 tentyee in w6

[hexed shoal]

Looks delish

[cold wraith]

before that i didnt have slug so no bubo

[hexed shoal]

I only have like 150 tenteye

[pine fiber]

check beanstalk waffle

[cold wraith]

yikes

[hexed shoal]

I dont have slug yet

[cold wraith]

hold on these new plates are going to bump my cooking so im going to go over and use 1 ladle for each meal.. hopefully boost it by 5 or so levels each

[low arrow]

Dk hard carry and i still cant play him active,cuz im lazy to let game open on mobile

[worn tulip]

about how much width is needed for killers brightside?

[cold wraith]

how much is takes to reach it

[worn tulip]

is this the equivalent of "as much as it does"?

[cold wraith]

no

[shadow lark]

nearly there

[low arrow]

Lol

[shadow lark]

what juice did i hear about depositing statues afterwards, am i still blueballed until much later

[pine fiber]

first or 2nd batch for onyx?

[shadow lark]

first

[pine fiber]

go go champ

[loud seal]

I just did mine today too. I might've waited too long, took one night of DK

[cold wraith]

getting snake vial to 100%, the statue reset thing in bubbles to 20%, and getting as many onyx as you can

[worn tulip]

yesssss killers brightside finally

[low arrow]

So how much onyx is,still ima wait till w5 to do it or even w6

[shadow lark]

god man this is horrible

[cold wraith]

yea im still doing it

almost done tho

[loud seal]

does the 1.02x multiplier from rift also matter?

[pine fiber]

damn, that was an actual suggestion that Lava implemented

[slender lichen]

how do you place down traps on pc?

[pine fiber]

huge W

[cold wraith]

thats why you need 27 maxed vials

[shadow lark]

double click

[low arrow]

Get to the critter place and up left,need the traps first

[shadow lark]

the single talent reset? yeah sick

[pine fiber]

yeah

[worn tulip]

im so hyped for that

[cold wraith]

what does that mean

hes putting out new upgrades alr?

[slender lichen]

already have the traps just trying to place them down

[pine fiber]

actual W

[cold wraith]

ah

[slender lichen]

isnt that to equip items?

[worn tulip]

cant wait to reset the stupid tab3 vial upgrades

[loud seal]

ah so I wait until 100% double chance but double statue chance doesn't stack any further. and from that number, every 1.02x is additive and not multiplicative I'm guessing

[low arrow]

If you pressed the button up left and the trap ui pop up double click the one

[worn tulip]

imagine if it works for star talents

[low arrow]

Waiiit thst works

Bruh i could have saved a lot of potions

[shadow lark]

no

[shadow lark]

#💖future-content-blog

[low arrow]

Oh

But that gonna be a big one ngl

[pine fiber]

yeah

[slender lichen]

nvm im dumb i didnt even find the trap ui

[worn tulip]

!merit4

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

[low arrow]

You are on the first froge one right ?,are you on the place

[loud seal]

thanks! goals then. i just maxed that vial yesterday, did onyx quest last night and still have to push to rift 36

[cold wraith]

it takes freakin forever

i did statues straight for at least a month and prob more

[worn tulip]

wait

does the w3 salt cost scaling merit show visually or not

[cold wraith]

well you can see that it costs less salt

@pine fiber cant believe you spent 2k ladles on this

[worn tulip]

ohhhhhhhhhhh

[cold wraith]

i got the recipes in 5, 1 hr ladles

[pine fiber]

my kitchen was way underleveled, brother

[cold wraith]

[worn tulip]

i thought it was for the costs of the salts in general not the usage of salts in other salts bruh

[pine fiber]

and I didnt mind the ladles

[cold wraith]

that would a lil broken

[cold wraith]

so we never reaching 100k for eq?

[low arrow]

I have to much bonuses to work of past maps

[pine fiber]

I have to worry about dungeon challenges first

[cold wraith]

still its best to rush worlds

[pine fiber]

and I'm leveling up multitool tomorrow, waiting for stamp cost reducer

[low arrow]

Ik my dk is pushin while others are on lab printing to upg alc

[cold wraith]

oh shoot my things been at 90% for a while

[worn tulip]

why is my soda can kph higher than on genies?

is it cuz of the amount of enemies or what

[low arrow]

Still 4k mobs with brigth gonna take a lot

[cold wraith]

yep

[low arrow]

Atleast i updated prints before enslav- i mean making them research on the lab

[worn tulip]

another announcement ingame bruh

wait what the soda card is so cool

man why is w4 so long

[low arrow]

W4 makes the weaks leave before reaching true power

[pine fiber]

lab jail is love tho

[worn tulip]

nah im jsut gonna spend those 150 or so hours of candies on this lol

[low arrow]

They are being feed so is no a bad place

[pine fiber]

basically you are "forced" to use 1, maximum 2 pushers

the amount of free time that's released

[shadow lark]

if you think w4 is slow youre gonna love w5

[low arrow]

I just need one the others are wayy behind

Still on the gen maps

[worn tulip]

oh is this a one piece timeskip arc reference isnt it

[shadow lark]

spoiler free portal requirements

[worn tulip]

what

[shadow lark]

tbf the last one is optional

[pine fiber]

in w5? last 2

[shadow lark]

yeah i cropped the screenshot, the 1m portal is the optional one

[pine fiber]

ah gotchu

[worn tulip]

divine knight more like rezero julius joke haha

[keen parcel]

Mean while w6 100m for last area

[shadow lark]

i didnt candy any w4, i candied from mid w5 and half of the vman grind

[pliant merlin]

does anyone crashes with troll?

[clever latch]

Does chaotic chiz have a higher % of dropping the blankie than normal mode?

[shadow lark]

apparently bubo and vman can crash yeah from what ive read

[cold wraith]

@pine fiber

[clever latch]

@keen parcel any info now how much higher %?

[pine fiber]

thats the 100k stack, right?

[cold wraith]

yep

[shadow lark]

you can check the wiki for droprates

[clever latch]

oh ok nvm i found it

[cold wraith]

i dont have gfood bonus on this character

[clever latch]

yeah mb i forgot the drop rates you need to expand to see

[pine fiber]

check it on any warrior

[pine fiber]

tasty

[worn tulip]

these mana potions are starting to get really fucking annoying

[cold wraith]

what?

did he rework those or smth

[pine fiber]

doubt

[worn tulip]

no its jsut that i dont have a big food pouch on my dk and it clogs up spaces in my inv

[cold wraith]

then filter 💀

[worn tulip]

how

[worn tulip]

thank you

very much

[keen parcel]

On the cards i send you can see the rate

[ancient arch]

should i spam all of my first eggs to try and unlock as many new pets as i can hit?

[cold wraith]

strat is to keep spamming eggs as it takes longer for next eggs

😈

[clever latch]

yeah thanks bro!

[pine fiber]

sb?

[cold wraith]

no im afk to get dragon statues

[clever latch]

also anyone else having trouble accessing toolbox?

[cold wraith]

still not even close tho

[worn tulip]

welp

i am now curbed

aka choccies are impossible for me rn

my shit decisionmaking has finally caught up to me

[worn tulip]

for w4?

(do you have this thing for w4)

[cold wraith]

"

[worn tulip]

wow

yeah thats not possible

what should my damage even be then though

[pine fiber]

waffle, guess which eldritch arti I got today

[cold wraith]

the cat one

[shadow lark]

uh, i think i pushed with like 10k kph

[worn tulip]

also holy shit my first void coin

[low arrow]

Gg

[cold wraith]

buy kitchen or max out some cauldron/forge upgrades

[rugged kiln]

^^^

[brave crater]

Announcement FROM LAVA

[rugged kiln]

most of you void coins are going to be immediately spent

[low arrow]

I need to max my alch i got ot forgotten

[cold wraith]

i dont see void anymore

[shadow lark]

celebrate small wins

[pine fiber]

hows your family tab looking

[brave crater]

Get more pop pls

[brave crater]

W

[cold wraith]

i see an imposter

[pine fiber]

if you have an excess of pop obols, make it until dementia for slab

[cold wraith]

i still gotta do that

[shadow lark]

i need an excess of fragments first

[low arrow]

Guys what is the optimal slush count to avoid loss

[half wedge]

How does one get the talent for the 3d printer?

[shadow lark]

those are the real pain

[pine fiber]

same

[low arrow]

I heard 3

[cold wraith]

2 boss kills

[shadow lark]

ice cream questline

[low arrow]

Oh so i wait till 2 ?

[worn tulip]

drop > pop

[cold wraith]

its 4 days for first boss, 3 for second, then 4 for third

so you cycle 1 day faster if you do 2

[low arrow]

Ok ty

I got 2 days to 3 so ima go kill them

[cold wraith]

or wait 2 days and kill

[pine fiber]

crystal farming at sand pots

[cold wraith]

cus then itll reset and you lose 2 days

[worn tulip]

man i had no clue cauldron boost tab has caps

[shadow lark]

yeah ive luckily got a few fragments from the power statue farm

[low arrow]

Time to wait

[cold wraith]

after i finish this gt bubble grind im going to go back on dk and farm up fragments to get all the purple obols for slab

[shadow lark]

i wish you could auto trash obols

[pine fiber]

yeah

thats also a suggestion in best suggestions afaik

[static jungle]

I don’t understand why

But somehow I have 44k accuracy

Only on him tho

[brave crater]

Uh

[static jungle]

Can someone help me out?

[pine fiber]

you have a shitton of luck* I had a stroke

[brave crater]

WHERE ARE MY POP OBOLS

[shadow lark]

a lot of luck

[brave crater]

no pop obols

[pine fiber]

filtered?

[brave crater]

I suck

[shadow lark]

the question is what is your maestro doing fighting

[worn tulip]

yeahhhhhh platinum luk obol (i am crying rn)

[brave crater]

No

[static jungle]

Wym?

[cold wraith]

didnt take that long to get my pop obols

[shadow lark]

a right nvm needs 150 for questline right

[static jungle]

Yea exactly

[pine fiber]

they are afraid of me, it went instantly to dementia skull

[static jungle]

I got from 750 acc lvls to 920 sum in 2 days

And my new character has reached Devine night before even finishing w3

Divine

[brave crater]

Brev

[toxic quartz]

Im working towards unlocking my elite classes on most of my chars and I have a few questions

[true hamlet]

What

[toxic quartz]

what should I do with them as soon as I unlock them?

[shadow lark]

LAB JAIL

[toxic quartz]

I was advised to throw my BB to lab

[brave crater]

WHERE ARE MY POP OBOLS

[shadow lark]

I TOOK THEM

[toxic quartz]

lol cool

until around what level

[shadow lark]

you do not want to know

[toxic quartz]

or should I leave like my dk out for pushing

[true hamlet]

Hey, you do know mk and kpk don't work for that right?

[shadow lark]

youre gonna decide between es or dk for pushing

[true hamlet]

😂

[shadow lark]

and everybody else goes lab jail for a very very long time

[toxic quartz]

I'll do some reprinting still once in a while

[shadow lark]

yea

[toxic quartz]

and also im near my 7th character

[static jungle]

Im still lvl 1 on all of my characters in lab

[shadow lark]

they go out, get some water and food, go back in

[toxic quartz]

what should it be

[shadow lark]

The ominous secret class

[toxic quartz]

I was really excited to get it im glad to get that answer

[worn tulip]

what do i use my 800 gems on

[toxic quartz]

I will need to farm some skills then

thanks!!

[shadow lark]

yeah farm some skills and then you know what to do

LAB JAIL

[urban cobalt]

Time candies 🙂

[toxic quartz]

I mean I should at least get it to maestro no?

[worn tulip]

youre not funny

[toxic quartz]

I dont remember how the vman quest goes like

[static jungle]

It just went up again

[pine fiber]

invest now!

[cold wraith]

lv 150, 1m kill on dn for w1-w3 then 12m gmush kills on vman

[worn tulip]

!gemshop

[shadow lark]

i bought up half of the storage chests before i even got w4 lmao

certified hoarder

[urban cobalt]

Hold on a min

[pine fiber]

and it was so worth it

[worn tulip]

is deathblossom pendant better than tier 2 stuff or not

[true hamlet]

There's only one downside I can remember off the top of my head when having jman as 7th

[toxic quartz]

cool thankss

[brave crater]

No pop obols

[urban cobalt]

Card packs are that high

[shadow lark]

w6 boss cards are very good

[pine fiber]

you are farming with es, right?

[brave crater]

Yes

My multi kill is high

[worn tulip]

bro do i buy the deathblossom pendant or not

[urban cobalt]

Why are card packs recommended in the tierlist

[pine fiber]

mk doesnt affect pop obol drops tho

it affects base mat and thats it

[brave crater]

Oh

Damn

[void otter]

any ways outside of leveling the skill to increase duration of DK's Orb?

[inner crane]

Do your reprints, just do

[pine fiber]

not really, get it as high as you can

[true hamlet]

Killer Brightside and Nobi also don't affect drops

[void otter]

how do people get 400orb kills on citringes?

[urban cobalt]

Skill issue

[brave crater]

Library

[urban cobalt]

Just one shot all of them

[pine fiber]

whats your orb lvl btw

[void otter]

thanks for this useless comment.

[void otter]

already maxed it out as far as i could

[pine fiber]

yeah but what lvl is that

[brave crater]

299?

[worn tulip]

wtf why am i still not getting multikill despite oneshottting the mobs already >:(

[urban cobalt]

Do you oneshot the citringes

[true hamlet]

Need 2x

[worn tulip]

i am 300k off omfg

[void otter]

299?

how?

[brave crater]

Is orb lvl 299

[urban cobalt]

Artifacts my dude

[pine fiber]

salt lick, achievement, artifacts, summoning

but whats your current highest book lvl

[void otter]

139

[pine fiber]

oh

[brave crater]

Rip

[true hamlet]

Highest in w3 is 160 I think

[pine fiber]

yeah, get atleast ancient fury from sailing

thats +50

[void otter]

which island?

[true hamlet]

I mean, 139 < 385

[urban cobalt]

Mushroom

[worn tulip]

ah yes

[true hamlet]

Fungi meadows

😮 frost island unlocked.. resample coming soon

[urban cobalt]

How do i get those

[worn tulip]

i dont think you can rn

[urban cobalt]

I have 1 rn though

[worn tulip]

yeah same

idk if you remember but during the last event the spinny wheel gave them

[urban cobalt]

Oh

[worn tulip]

why are 2 of the w2 tasks so easy

[true hamlet]

Same for every world

Some tasks are just easy

[mossy anvil]

!gear

[void otter]

ok, and summoning... worship or the w6 thing?

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[slender wadi]

should i switch to farming exp cogs?

[true hamlet]

+20 from salt lick, +10 from merit shop, +25 base, +5 achievement, +100 fury relic, +29 summoning winner bonus, +10 from oxygen

[true hamlet]

Always xp

I'm forgetting 20

[void otter]

ty <3

[slender wadi]

should i just do yellow ones or also the most basic ones?

[true hamlet]

Give me a moment to recall the last +20

[true hamlet]

Both will do

[stable valve]

anyone got a spec sheet for beast master?

[zenith hare]

there isn't really one minus maxing the skilling talents

pet power being main one, then breeding xp

as fighting bm...well sucks

[true hamlet]

Bean, should be correct right?

[zenith hare]

there isn't sheets for any classes, just which is better somewhat. which changes heavily depending on ur account

[zenith hare]

yes

how much coins you have stored up

each coin respawns a single mob

if you have vman enhance, it spawns a plunder mob costing 25 coins when above 100

[worn tulip]

man i cant wait for this

[true hamlet]

Why

[worn tulip]

equinox cloud

[pine fiber]

bubo killroy

[true hamlet]

It's easy enough to get killroy 400 with decent map and bubo

[willow sierra]

Does this mean literally sit there in kitchen in town and do nothing for 15 hours, or let the recipes cook while I AFK mining or something?

[true hamlet]

I did it on penguins from my cloud

[true hamlet]

Minutes

[blazing bough]

Why doesn’t fuscia flask works on mage

[zenith hare]

15 minutes afk off the character

[true hamlet]

It's the one that scales off bubble levels right?

[wheat gulch]

no. you change to another character and wait for 15 minutes

[blazing bough]

Yessir o7

[willow sierra]

Gotcha, tyty

[worn tulip]

hm

[true hamlet]

Read it

Then check your alchemy bubble level

[willow sierra]

If my AFK gains rate is 102%, does that mean its faster than active farming?

[blazing bough]

I did and my bubble level is 40 but it didn’t change

[true hamlet]

I just realised rams not the best map for 400

[true hamlet]

What's the level of your affected talent?

[blazing bough]

25 does it need to match if ur on about the over cooked it’s like 134/128 and the flash is 25

[pine fiber]

depends on what you are doing, but in essence, yes

[worn tulip]

choccies are probably better tbf

how does my es have higher kph on a harder map >:(

[true hamlet]

es best elite class afker

[true hamlet]

That's worse

[worn tulip]

how

[zenith hare]

too large

[true hamlet]

Remember mobs will spawn on all platforms

You preferable want something small, even penguins

[pine fiber]

I dont judge

[true hamlet]

With the number of mobs, even a lvl 100 tent will reduce cooldown very quickly to 0, you want to spend less time running and more time attacking with auspicious aura

[static jungle]

I have no right to be doing this

[indigo stratus]

i need 20 power statues, where do i get them fast?

[pine fiber]

bored beans and pray

[neon rose]

What should my 8th character slot be? (I made my 7th a jman) Recently got back into the game and lacking way behind in most things, any other tips would be helpful as well. thanks in advance please just reply ping me if u care to respond

[pine fiber]

you have 1 of every class, right? as in squire and friends

if yes, make a DK(second squire)

[indigo stratus]

i dont see it in the loot table?

[pine fiber]

yes because you are praying for crystal carrots

[neon rose]

currently i have shaman, bb, wizard, squire, bowman, hunter, and jman

[indigo stratus]

does it work afk?

[static jungle]

I would say wizard

[shadow lark]

no

[pine fiber]

crystals? no

[indigo stratus]

fuck

[shadow lark]

second squire

[pine fiber]

get everyone to elite first, but make a 2nd squire->dk

[indigo stratus]

trying to get more storage slots

[neon rose]

I've been trying to farm levels/Im lacking heavily on gear/accuracy to farm mobs currently

[shadow lark]

💳

[shadow lark]

alchemy is your bestie

[pine fiber]

wallet + ES farming at specific mobs for bank storage upgrades

• aim to buy the upgrades from vendors

[neon rose]

The agony of getting bloaches is getting to me and i;m not sure what to do

for the shaq alchemy

[shadow lark]

print iiiit

[neon rose]

since i recently came back being so behind is a bit overwhelming 💀

[shadow lark]

what world are you, w3 or w4

[pine fiber]

just do vault instead

[neon rose]

my current print is at 60 an hr, kms

[cold wraith]

good to see youre keeping yourself safe

[pine fiber]

and get your roo going in w2

[neon rose]

w4, i got elite class on my barb

[shadow lark]

recraft your armor with w4 upgrade stones on the mage

or while youre at it get off barb and on es

[pine fiber]

• owl has been sped up so do your orion

[neon rose]

Should I go for chizaor boss gear?

[shadow lark]

helmet and chest yes

[neon rose]

I still need to get the prayer for giants as well to get daily keys quest done..

[pine fiber]

thats very early for you, I doubt you have the salt for it

[neon rose]

Which armor do u recommend if I cant do chizaor?

[pine fiber]

amarok is good until dementia

with w4 stones

hell, its good until w6

[shadow lark]

yeah i wore it deep into w5

[neon rose]

Just base amarok?

[shadow lark]

yup

[pine fiber]

yeah

[shadow lark]

with w4 upgrade stones

[neon rose]

on my mage for the wis right?

[shadow lark]

i would use either a ES or DK to push instead of barb

[neon rose]

to get more acc

[pine fiber]

correct

[shadow lark]

so in that case youd upgrade on a strength class, but essentially yes

[neon rose]

appreciate the help, will get that gear goin and level up my squire to get em closer to DK

[mossy anvil]

ok so i brute forced my way to make elemental sorc and now what do i do? i dont have gear for other characters to get there

[shadow lark]

they dont need much more than amarok to get their elite class

just need the accuracy to get to genies

[pine fiber]

swap gear for shaman, get bubo

[true hamlet]

, with the new vault, you can easily use amarok to get to genies

[worn tulip]

HOLY SHIT TRIPLESHOT STAMP

[indigo stratus]

is it possible i didnt get storage chest 4 with the cactus quest?

[mossy anvil]

im lacking defences on candies, it eats food like crazy

[pine fiber]

hemoglobin?

[true hamlet]

4 is from... snake jar I think?

[mossy anvil]

i have it lvl 5

[indigo stratus]

the cactus guy

[true hamlet]

Ah, do it on another char possibly?

[pine fiber]

you want that maxed

as in 50/50

[mossy anvil]

oh, thought 5 is enough, will get it then thanks

[pine fiber]

naaaah

[true hamlet]

Around 2.5% at 50

[low arrow]

These 6 mutated mush finally got a rest (just now i realized the summon item 😂)

[burnt vortex]

just got shiny pets are they very helpful?

[zenith hare]

extraordinarily helpful

[burnt vortex]

sheepie and red mush bonus seem kinda fire

[zenith hare]

infinite star signs, shiny level up, and refinery speed should be ur main focus. meal bonus is also great

[burnt vortex]

cuz my cooking bonuses are relatively high

[burnt vortex]

alr bet

also what atoms should i prioritize

i get like 300ish every day

unlocked up to flourid

[green skiff]

Why im not able to buy "the art of the bail" bribe?

[zenith hare]

infinite star signs and shiny level speed

[burnt vortex]

wait those are atoms

[zenith hare]

only two reasons: you don't have it unlocked or you don't have enough coins

[zenith hare]

no?

[burnt vortex]

i asked what atoms to prioritize

[white path]

unlocked from trash island in w2

[zenith hare]

ohh

the cheapest one

[burnt vortex]

k

[zenith hare]

they're all amazing

[burnt vortex]

are alternate upgrades worth?

[zenith hare]

100%

[burnt vortex]

k

[green skiff]

Soo i´ve to buy it with 135 garbage?

I get it

[zenith hare]

yeah

[fallen crescent]

sadly im still waiting for bigger bonuses

[plucky frost]

So is my newly minted Beast Master supposed to run out of mana in about 2 seconds on auto?

[shadow lark]

yeah without mp a lot of classes run out of mana early

[white lintel]

Mana pots

[wheat dirge]

Hey guys does removing your worship skull reset your charge to 0?

[white lintel]

I think so

[true hamlet]

Nope, it resets to base

[pine fiber]

you can upgrade your skull if thats what you are asking

[gray lion]

Maybe silly question, But like what does Genetic Multi Even do for the pet?

[pine fiber]

increases next pet chance

[wheat dirge]

What do you mean? I can upgrade my skull without losing charge?

[gray lion]

Aww thank you

[pine fiber]

yeah it resets back to base amount, what RandomDude said

so if you went over idk how much your cap is without a proper skull, it will be lost

[wheat dirge]

How do I check base max charge?

[pine fiber]

no clue sadly

you could make a new skull and just replace with bigger one, dunno if that works tho

so you arent actually removing a skull

[rapid osprey]

I'm partially through world 4 is it worht to put my characters in the lab for printer + refinery things?

[white lintel]

Work on getting optimal prints for a short time, so work on alchemy n other sampling boosts, and getting Royal sampler lvled up as high as possible. Put that on everyone and then do a round of sampling for whatever bonuses you’ll need, then throw everyone in lab, you can either get elites one at a time or many at a time depending on your stats. Once you have all elites you can start your push to w5, most important lab nodes are nblb and killer brightside.
Actuve push with DK (or ES) and i believe BB is best for afk push

[rapid osprey]

What are optimal prints? Just things that are needed for the good bubbles?

[sleek pollen]

'optimal' is a big word that early but something like that

Barb : fish
Bowman : bug
Mage (both) : log
Squire : ore
Hunter : any but can do monster drop
Jman : any as well but vman best prints is monster drop
both hunter and mman can do monster for vial/ref/bubbles

[white lintel]

Optimal prints as in getting as much sample %, eff, and afk gains as is worth the time to get, main thing is doing catchup on bubbles for that stuff and also getting Royal sampler which is a huge increase to sample % which is incredibly important.

You will also want to sample items you’ll be using for the stamps, alch, or anything else you’ll need as you push w4 so like fruitflies, and bloaches for FMJ and Shaquracy respectively and any combat bubbles or stamps

[white lintel]

This too

[sleek pollen]

and yeah ofc focusing on getting more and better prints to upgrade your bubbles

[white lintel]

Most of your cast will be doing nothing the whole time so it’s important to set yourself up

The prep should take 1 maybe 2 days depending on how close you are to royal sampler

[sleek pollen]

and usually people would tell you to already put your char in lab as soon as you get in w4 so get these lab node and so they can level up their lab lvl to get more range to access others lab node that can help you push like killer brightside (x2 kill count)

basically let you char in lab jail so you can have that x2 print bonus to print more resources to upgrade skilling bubbles to redo prints to have better print to upgrade skilling bubbles more so you can redo your prints so you can upgrade your skilling bubbles etc etc

[chilly spear]

something ive noticed as of getting my 8th character is that world 4 helps snowball levels really hard, and im about to be at my 9th character. what class should i prioritize for it? ive currently got 1 of each, then an extra divine knight, then a maestro

[zenith hare]

ES

[sleek pollen]

base mage and archer imo, or just get second ES and SB as per usual (it was the 'meta' before master class and hole)

[zenith hare]

second sb is bad :p

ever since the hole

[chilly spear]

extra ES sounds awesome actually, thats what ive been afking on while im at work

[white lintel]

I suspect only 2 archers will be meta if the classes continue the way they are

[sleek pollen]

bug prints

[zenith hare]

yeah likely

[white lintel]

For what?

[chilly spear]

what does siege breaker even really do?

[sleek pollen]

bug?

[zenith hare]

and minus refinery, what use is that?

[white lintel]

Not like there’s anything you need to spend bugs on

[sleek pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[chilly spear]

i dont have sailing quite yet so i dont know if thats its biggest boon or not

[zenith hare]

before he was for your forge, the hole made that 243x easier, vault made that an extra 2.5x easier ontop of that

[white lintel]

The extra 2 hourly clicks ain’t that worth imo for a whole class choice

[zenith hare]

first sb is great

[white lintel]

When afk DB comes out all the 2BB champs will be rejoicing

[sleek pollen]

so what you recommend as 10th?

[chilly spear]

oh dont get me wrong, my SB is beloved by only because i really like catching

[white lintel]

Begginer

[zenith hare]

beginner till all masters are out

[sleek pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/noted-gif-26660577

[zenith hare]

then we shall see from there

[chilly spear]

i was considering ES or BB for cooking/death bringer afk

[zenith hare]

second bb is mainly for death note kills

and afk rare drops

[sleek pollen]

no not the 2nd bb

[chilly spear]

two beginners or is it better to wait till 10th in general for vman?

[chilly spear]

it'd be nice for vman unlock if nothing else

[zenith hare]

no, beginner as in NOT even jman

just beginner, so you can choose any class

[sleek pollen]

beginner like classless

[zenith hare]

as its an uncertain future for the meta

[chilly spear]

oh i know what you mean now, thats kinda smart but feels useless

[pine fiber]

beginner like hobo

[white lintel]

1vman one begginer

[chilly spear]

i mean we'll probably get an 11th character relatively soon if lava keeps up with master classes

[zenith hare]

better then wasting it on a class that gets over shadowed

[ancient arch]

what is the pendant in the gear list for w4? i didn't even get to make a single amarok pendant in time lol

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[zenith hare]

its the one from dungeons

[sleek pollen]

flurbo pendant

[chilly spear]

upgraded chizoar blankie

[white lintel]

Idk if it was a shitpost but I heard someone say lava said when 11th class comes out all untouched accounts will have their names deleted for new people to use

[chilly spear]

maybe ill finally get a name that isnt some shit like SlugSeducer

[white lintel]

That’s not even a bad name

[chilly spear]

but yeah im thinking BB as my 9th, i feel like ill get some good use out of it, since ES feels like itll require being active more

[white lintel]

I’d take that name instead of some of mine

[chilly spear]

my first 3 are ass, my 4th is just ok, then my next 4 are banger after banger

SackExploder, FrogFondler (trapper), ChuddyCheese, SlugSeducer

[white lintel]

ES was good for log prints for atoms and a second god slot, most of which is kinda outdated. But there’s probably other reasons it’s still used

[zenith hare]

DK is now best for atoms

for now anyways, until the chopping hole bonus comes

[white lintel]

Yea, outdated like I said

[chilly spear]

maybe the second god slot is worth it, im still not done with world 4 since im delaying for vman questline

[pine fiber]

do I 🦴 while I sleep or crystal farm with dk at clammies?

[chilly spear]

or actually is it better to do vman quests asap or wait till world 5

[white lintel]

Do vman world 5

[sleek pollen]

w5 has another x2 kill count bonus

[white lintel]

And more stats

[chilly spear]

didnt know that, will definitely be waiting for world 5

[ancient arch]

thank you

[covert fractal]

how is the no pain no gain perk?

[white lintel]

If it’s the one that eats 90% of your health I don’t like it

But I could be wrong

[covert fractal]

it's that one

[white lintel]

I’m an avid barb hater

[ancient arch]

it's high on the talent list to max but in some later levels of w3 i had to start turning it off

[chilly spear]

mate hates having 30k hp in world 3

[covert fractal]

has 3k in world 4

[white lintel]

I don’t even know if that’s good or bad anymore

[sleek pollen]

not playing him

[toxic coyote]

which is better, full void or chizoar

[white lintel]

Chiz

[sleek pollen]

top half chiz

[toxic coyote]

oh, honestly surprised that chiz chest is better than void

[sleek pollen]

chiz chest and helmet gives bonus dmg%

[toxic coyote]

ah icic

[sleek pollen]

and same for chiz scarf

why all 3 are in the recommended gear for w5

[blazing orchid]

is this intended behavior xd

[sleek pollen]

ye happens

idk if 'intended' is the word but that exists

[white path]

active fishing

[white lintel]

…huh, that’s interesting

[sleek pollen]

active not in equinox

[covert fractal]

oof. was running without sandy pot till now

[sleek pollen]

card?

[covert fractal]

pet

[white path]

all companion bonuses are always active (minus doot)

[covert fractal]

as in I never caught sandy pot till now